/pst/ - Phantasy Star Thread

[Anonymous No.2974561]

Discuss the amazing original tetralogy as well as the online games ITT.

http://poal.me/2r7rej - Choose your favorite.
http://ephinea.pioneer2.net - Play online now!

[Anonymous No.2974592]

i tried to get into ps1 couldn't do it. played psiv and loved it a fuckton. it's like playing an 80s space anime i love it.

[Anonymous No.2974594]

>>2974561
>"Here's a random subject that I have nothing to say about."
>"Hey guys, it's your job to get this discussion going for me!"

No it's not. If you can't be assed to post something more substantial, then why did you start this thread in the first place? You can't just pick a subject and say "Go!" and expect other anons to do all the work for you.

Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.2974605]

>>2974561
I love Nei!

[Anonymous No.2974610]

>>2974594
Why didn't you bitch at the Breath of Fire thread? It has even less content than this one.

[Anonymous No.2974619]

>>2974561
>http://poal.me/2r7rej - Choose your favorite.
Well, since I can't pick them all as my favorites, I'll have to go with IV, just for presentation.

Though II (and the associated text adventures) had its moments.
>pic related

[Anonymous No.2974743]

I sincerely hope you goyim played PS1 with the SMSPower patch and in glorious FM synth.

[Anonymous No.2974759]

>>2974619
I went for 4 as well, though it pains me to see PS1 without any votes. It's easily the most fun to explore.

[Anonymous No.2974763]

2, because of the dungeon design, boss battle theme, and especially the ending.

4 is better in every other way though.

[Anonymous No.2974784]

>mfw IV's macro system for battles

Why didn't more RPG's implement this function?

[Anonymous No.2974816]

Kyra a cute

needs more love

[Anonymous No.2974912]

>>2974743

I played the original translation without FM synth and I don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.2974971]

>>2974912
You should.

[Anonymous No.2974982]

>>2974784

I never used PS4's macro system. Should I?

[Anonymous No.2975016]

>>2974982
Well, yeah. It's pretty bloody useful, especially if you want to use any combo attacks without leaving them to chance.

[Anonymous No.2975032]

>playing a Final Fantasy ripoff

[Anonymous No.2975041]

>>2975032
Put some effort into your trolling.

[Anonymous No.2975070]

>>2975032
>implying Final Fagassy wasn't also a ripoff

[Anonymous No.2975804]

[Anonymous No.2975809]

I want to get into this series, but have this obsession to play all games in series in order. And, well, Phantasy Start 1 is pretty harsh to get into. Did it ever get a modern re-release on something outside Master System?

[Anonymous No.2975821]

>>2975809
You could play it on the PS2 if you can read Nihongan.

[Anonymous No.2975835]

>>2974982
I'd recommend it. It makes setting up combos easier, and I always had one or two macros for buffs to start boss battles off with.

>>2975809
It got a remake on the ps2, but I wouldn't recommend that - it changes the story and the mechanics quite a bit. If you grind for a little right at the very beginning (get Alis up to level 5-8 or so), its not that hard.

The games are only sorta related to each other, and aside from a few callbacks, you're not missing too much if you play them out of order.

[Anonymous No.2975838]

>>2975835

IIRC there's a translation patch out for the PS1 remake.

[Anonymous No.2975889]

>>2975821
It was translated ages ago and they released update recently.

[Anonymous No.2975923]

Is there a bigger bro in vidya than this nigga?

[Anonymous No.2975983]

Are you going to watch the Phantasy Star anime, /vr/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLf_DXqKw2w

[Anonymous No.2975996]

>>2974561
Robogirls are the best things about Phantasy Star.

Prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.2976034]

>>2975809
I want to get into the series, but I don't give a shit about chronology. Where should I start? People seem to like PS3 but I figured I'd ask...

[Anonymous No.2976038]

>>2976034
If you wanna spoil yourself, start with IV.

If you wanna play it as intended, 1->2->4 and 3 is optional.

[Anonymous No.2976174]

Modern player here, just started phantasy star IV, never played any other game of the series before. Perhaps someone will get mad at it since apparently it spoils some thing? but I heard that it was the most accesible one. I just got Rika in my party and I'm having fun with the game, but I have questions about it
Is there a skill description or something like that? I still have no idea of what Chaz's earth tech or Gryz magic do
Is there a map, unlockable later or something? I'm not having problems right now, but I imagine that if I drop the game for a week due to work I'll have some issues finding some places. I like how they made a memo with the talk command though
I spent like an hour in that basement on Gryz village dying like a bitch left and right. Still fun.

[Anonymous No.2976183]

>there was a mainline installment released a year ago for Vita by triAce

Holy shit. Is it any good, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.2976262]

>>2976034
3's alright, but it's not very popular. It's something of a black sheep for the series - a different team developed it, and it was rushed, so the good ideas it had were lost in the execution. I wouldn't recommend it as your first game in the series, but it's a nice side-story with some cool quirks.

4 is probably the best-executed, but it ties in pretty heavily with 1 and 2, so you'll get more out of it if you play those first.

2's pretty grindy, but the dungeons/mazes are fun, and it's got a decent cast of characters you can actually choose from.

1 is old and shows it, but it's still a great game. If the remake didn't butcher its relatively nonlinear plot, I'd recommend that.

[Anonymous No.2976283]

Why did they drop the pseudo-3D dungeons of the SMS game? That was one of the best things about it.

[Anonymous No.2976432]

>>2976283
I remember reading somewhere that they thought making the game in first person would be too boring. I don't know about that.

[Anonymous No.2976437]

>>2976174
The pscave has maps. I don't know if the FAQs at the site has technique and skill info though. You could try it.

[Anonymous No.2976456]

4 > 1 > 2 > 3

[Anonymous No.2976461]

>>2975983
Phantasy Star Online isn't Phantasy Star

[Anonymous No.2976474]

>>2976456
My niggy.

[Anonymous No.2976482]

>>2976432
Having a sane method of mapping definitely makes the dungeons boring. Particularly those involving going up and down constantly.

[Anonymous No.2976558]

>>2976482
I know in the SNES versions of Wizardry they had a mapping system they could have imported into PS, but whatever. They had screen shots back in the day of a first person dungeon before they axed them.

[Anonymous No.2976610]

Whose death was more depressing, Nei's or Alys'?

[Anonymous No.2976617]

>>2975923
>bro
>betrays you

See me after class.

[Anonymous No.2976629]

>>2976617
He was under mind control, nigga.

[Anonymous No.2976637]

>>2976610
Alys was characterized more in PS4, so more was lost when she was gone. PS2 didn't have the luxury of a lot of cut scenes and between character text so Nei didn't have a chance to be Nei past the opening where she tags along on the adventure.

[Anonymous No.2976664]

>>2974784
Final Fantasy XII uses it, and so does Dragon Age: Origins

[Anonymous No.2976670]

>>2976183
Fun gameplay (especially mp), cringeworthy story.
Like most JRPGs these days, they went the waifu pandering route.

[Anonymous No.2976714]

>>2976670
>these days
Look around this thread, nigga.

[Anonymous No.2976729]

>>2975923
>Nice to see you again, Anon. Have you trained yourself? Do you remember me? I'm Kireek. They call me the Black Hound. I have orders to kill you. Let me devour your soul. Hee, hee, hee... You shall die now!!

[Anonymous No.2977041]

I am maybe 4 or 5 hours into PS1 and I just can't get into it. I love JRPGs, but the 8-bit era of RPGs always feels tedious and unpolished to me. Same thing happened to me with FF1.

Can I skip straight to PS3 and PS4? Will I be lost in the story or world if I do that?

[Anonymous No.2977048]

>>2977041
Play the remake, nigga.

[Anonymous No.2977051]

>>2977041
I'd skip straight to 4, if you think 1's too unpolished. 2 and 3 were a little rushed (3 moreso than 2, though they both suffered from it), and you won't be too lost in 4 without playing the others. There are a few callbacks, but it stands well enough on its own.

If you do start with 3, it's almost entirely divorced from the rest of the series (there's a brief, missable callback to 2 near the end), so no worries there.

[Anonymous No.2977206]

>>2975070
Don't take the bait. PS1 predates FF1 and he knows it. You should know it too.

[Anonymous No.2977214]

>>2975809
There is a reimagining on Playstation 2 but it's an abomination and don't you fucking dare play it before the original. It's a very different game gameplay-wise and wouldn't satisfy your autistic need to things in order anyway.

>>2976034
4 is a very friendly game. If you think you're a bad enough dude then you can start with 1, it is a pretty fantastic game.

>People seem to like PS3
In my experience people seem to dislike PS3. I don't think it's bad, but don't play the odd one out first.

[Anonymous No.2977218]

>>2975983
I hate everything about it. The fact that the ending has a closeup of a rappy's arse is really telling of the overall quality of the show.

[Anonymous No.2977223]

>>2976183
> mainline installment
Put some more points into your research skill. It's a PSO2 spinoff.

[Anonymous No.2977234]

>>2976432
I doubt it. Both PS2 and PS4 were planned to have first person dungeons at some point. I imagine they just had difficulties implementing it and took the easymodo route instead.

>>2976664
wot. No, that's very wrong.

[Anonymous No.2977298]

>>2977218
>a closeup of a rappy's arse
I wonder if anyone is sexually attracted to rag rappies.

[Anonymous No.2977415]

>>2975983
>tfw there will never be a great OVA adaptation of the Algo System saga

[Anonymous No.2977545]

>>2976558
The SNES port of Wizardry came out ten years after Phantasy Star 2.
Automaps were however used in Bard's Tale 2 (86) and in a way in Ultima 3 (83).
But mapping square based dungeons by hand isn't complicated.

I know Ultima ditched the first person dungeons because it made programming more complex. Another layer in which stuff happens means another layer where things can go wrong.

[Anonymous No.2977910]

>>2977214
The Playstation 2 remakes have a serious case of QUALITY. Myau looks like a dog and the art in 2 is just all around shockingly bad.

[Anonymous No.2978159]

Phantasy Star was the 1st JRPG I ever played, so I have warmth for it.

Until recently, I was using the dungeon music as my alarm.

https://youtu.be/HIx7Z-LMeV4

[Anonymous No.2978215]

>>2977910
The art in 2 reminded me of the Tsukihime anime, but worse.

[Anonymous No.2978441]

>>2978159
You seem to have posted the wrong version; here let me help you out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnQz9njOPXg

[Anonymous No.2978449]

fuck these things.

[Anonymous No.2978520]

Does anyone know where you can read the futabasha books online? I can only find III.


https://archive.org/stream/Phantasy-Star-3-Futabasha/ps3futabasha__292pg?ui=embed#page/n0/mode/1up

[Anonymous No.2978531]

>>2978449
Cast faggot confirmed.

[Anonymous No.2978572]

>>2978531
Cast master race.

Why the fuck did PSO take away their ability to learn techniques?

[Anonymous No.2978845]

>>2974561
I have never played a Phantasy Star game but I want to _be_ that little girl in the OP.

[Anonymous No.2978856]

>>2974816
Looks like a Faggot Emblem character.

[Anonymous No.2979286]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srdnqXD3u4w

I'll just leave this here.

[Anonymous No.2979434]

>>2974561

Phantasy Star IV is probably one of the best games I've ever played.

All the others are dogshit. 1-3 seem like they are not even made by the same company. The 3D ones are shit because 3D is shit. I mean, really, can you name one 3D game that looks and plays as good as a 2D game? You can't, because 3D is cheap bullshit for brainwashed morons. Play your 3D, niggers and faggots. 2D is racist, only the Nazis would play 2D because it's superior.

[Anonymous No.2980017]

>>2978845
Prepare for your life being short and miserable with only few months of happiness.

[Anonymous No.2980098]

>>2980017

He'll want to be Rika instead.

[Anonymous No.2980103]

>>2979434
>3D Phantasy Star
>shit
Nigga shut yo mouf. Playing PSO online with Dreamcast was some of my funnest gaming memories.

[Anonymous No.2980556]

>>2974561
I shamefully passed over PSIV when it came out and only played it for the first time a couple of years ago. I think it's probably the best rpg of the 16 bit era, everything about it is just about perfect.

Recently looking for something else to play I've started on the first game and have been really loving it. Still quite early, I just revived Odin and am looking for what to do next but it's been really impressing me so far. A much better game than either FF1 or DQ1 in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2980735]

>>2979434
>Phantasy Star 2
>Dogshit
Ayyyyylmao

[Anonymous No.2980797]

>>2974594
You might be hands down the worst poster ever to grace this board. Please be proud.

[Anonymous No.2980805]

>>2976461
Yes it is.

[Anonymous No.2980816]

>>2977298
There people attractived to everything on the Internet.

[Anonymous No.2980863]

>>2980805
In name sure, but it's a completely different kind of game. Its like, is Theatrhythm Final Fantasy? Well technically sure, but it's a completely different game from what is generally considered Final Fantasy.

[Anonymous No.2981249]

>mfw sega forgot motavians existed

[Anonymous No.2981264]

>>2981249

Too bad Gryz sucked so much in combat.

[Anonymous No.2981310]

>>2981264
At least he didn't suck as hard as Han.

[Anonymous No.2981348]

>>2981310

Demi and Raja master race.

[Anonymous No.2981807]

I'm just going to leave this here, you guys should know what to do.

https://www.change.org/p/sega-atlus-atlus-made-phantasy-star-v-revive-the-classic-series?recruiter=458785582&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

Of course this ain't gonna make all the difference, but if it makes 'any' difference, JUST- DDOOO IT!

[Anonymous No.2981826]

>>2981264
In a game where instadeath skills are common and reliable, they could've easily made it his "thing" that Crash was ridiculously accurate, making him a good choice for endgame grinding

[Anonymous No.2981943]

>>2976456
Jeez, they made Gryz look adorable! Mebba its cuz he bears a big resemblance to badtzmaru (which I'm also a huge fan of).

>>2981249
Mah nigga!

>>2981264
>>2981310
Wut the heck are you guys saying. One warcry and Gryz destroys. Also, have you used Han's vision?

>>2981826
Don't forget brose, I've insta-death'd plenty with it.

ALSO,
I'M LOOKING FOR AN OLD PS PAGE
It was called something like 'pages of algo' or 'algo encyclopedia' or something like that. It had an awesome layout with a bunch of PS2 borders. Mind you, this was, like, more than 10 years ago. Any idea anons?

[Anonymous No.2982324]

Should PS3 even count? It was outsourced to a different team and doesn't even take place in the ALGOL solar system.

PS 1/2/4 is the true Phantasy Star trilogy tbqh

[Anonymous No.2982370]

>>2980098
One of the games speaks of Newmans aging rapidly and randomly dying without showing any signs prior illness. This applies to all Newmans. I don't recall whether it was PS4 or PSO...

So Newmans are very much like the Replicants from Blade Runner, and may actually be based on that very concept.

Rika's chances of living a long, normal life are no greater than Nei's. I think this is mentioned in the epilogue when she decides to stay with Chaz.

[Anonymous No.2982464]

THE BALLS ARE INERT

[Anonymous No.2982514]

>>2982370

That's a PSO thing.

[Anonymous No.2982602]

>>2982370
According to Phantasy Star Compendium Rika lived long enough to give birth to a son, see Chaz going MIA on one of his missions as a Hunter and become Hunter herself to feed her kid.
Shame they never expanded on this story. Could have been Phantasy Star IV-2.

[Anonymous No.2982716]

>>2982602

That was a what-if made by the character designer after development was finished, not official.

[Anonymous No.2982779]

>>2980556
>Odin

>Space Cenutry 342
>Playing the original translation without FM sound
Do you hate your ears?

[Anonymous No.2982790]

>>2982779

MUH TIMELINE

[Anonymous No.2982808]

>>2982370
Neitypes were a different species altogether. A freak accident created by the bio-systems lab after a power surge. I believe the lifespans of about 2 to 3 years applies to the Neitypes.

The Faltype Numans are designed to breed with humans to create superior offspring suited to Motavian conditions. Considering the drastically different originas I see no reason the short lifespan would apply, especially considering the spinoff story where Fal (Rika) becomes a MILF.

[Anonymous No.2982810]

>>2982790
What? It was clearly just a >currentyear meme.

[Anonymous No.2983101]

>>2981943
Fringes of Algo?

[Anonymous No.2983221]

After watching last two episodes of PSO2 The Animation I realized that thing I don't like most about it is that it panders only to PSO2 user base not even acknowledging games that existed before it.
I mean, yes, obviously, it is titled Phantasy Star Online 2 the animation, but would it hurt creators to mention that it is second Online title, draw a cosplayer or two in costumes from classic games, make some music references?
If you are going meta, at least don't pretend that there is no vast history behind the title.

[Anonymous No.2983359]

>>2982779
I actually don't really know what you're referring to. But also I've mostly been playing it without sound. Emulating on PSP and usually listening to something else. The bits of music I've heard didn't do much.

Actual game though, I think is great and I love the mix of overworld and dungeon crawling.

[Anonymous No.2983371]

>>2983359
The American release doesn't have the option for FM Sound that the original Mk 3 game had and the translation renamed Tyrone to Odin among other things.

[Anonymous No.2983398]

>>2983371
Ahh, are there any other notable changes? I have both ROMs, I just played the US version because it was the one I saw as a kid. But I'm early enough I could start another one. I don't plan to listen to the music much either way though.

[Anonymous No.2983417]

So the only phantasy star game I own is 3. I'm not usually too into older console RPGs, but I got it in a lot of genny games.

All I've heard is that it's the worst one for whatever reason. Is it a bad game? Is it worth playing? Do I need to play the previous games to understand it?

[Anonymous No.2983423]

>>2983417
It's not awful, just kind of dull. You don't need to play the others though. One of the big problems with III is that it doesn't feel like it connects to the other games as well, and doesn't feel like it fits.

[Anonymous No.2983438]

>>2983423
So it's just a mediocre middle-of-the-road 16-bit JRPG?

[Anonymous No.2983463]

>>2983438
Yup. Where as each of the other PS games were outstanding for their time and very unique. III just feels generic. The main creator didn't work on it at all, and it really shows.

[Anonymous No.2983706]

I love PS it's unfortunate I can't find much merchandise that isn't PSO2 anymore.

[Anonymous No.2983721]

>>2983706

Another series ruined by waifuism. :(

[Anonymous No.2983838]

>>2983438
The generations system was pretty innovative for its time (DQV would rip it off), but it pales in comparison to the other PS games.

[Anonymous No.2984103]

>>2983417
As others have said, it's not bad, but it doesn't really live up to the reputation the rest of the series has.

You don't need the other games to understand it (as it's basically a side story away from the main plot in 1, 2, and 4), and it only sort of obliquely references 2 near the end.

I'd say it's a poor introduction to the series (it was my first PS game too), but it's a good enough game. It's not horrendously broken or grindy or anything, and the pretty big differences between Ayn and Nial's quests make it worth playing through a second time (the 3rd generation differences are small enough that I wouldn't worry about beating them all unless you really like the game).

[Anonymous No.2984165]

>>2975996
>>2975983
I wish you guys would stay in your shitposting general

[Anonymous No.2984175]

>>2984165
U triggered fampai?

[Anonymous No.2985137]

>>2983359
>I've mostly been playing it without sound.
Our peoples can never understand each other. Prepare for war.

[Anonymous No.2985141]

>>2983101
Dang, another forgotten page, thx for reminding me of fringes. But, sadly, it ain't it.

It's sorta coming to me now, I remember its url being something like 'algo-star-system.net' or something to that extent. Whenever you clicked on a link on the sidebar, which had a ps2 border, the selection you click on will light up the red button/indicator, just like the game!

[Anonymous No.2985207]

I'm just gonna leave this here again.

https://www.change.org/p/sega-atlus-atlus-made-phantasy-star-v-revive-the-classic-series?recruiter=458785582&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink

DO IT!

[Anonymous No.2985416]

>>2985207
But the story ended with 4.

[Anonymous No.2985727]

>>2985416
What part of 'DO IT!' did you not understand.

Sure e'nuff, it shud end there, but a prequel wud be bombtastic. Hell, a spinoff (ala FF X-2/IV+/the many many VII's) wudn't be bad either.

[Anonymous No.2986161]

>>2985416
Just because Dark Falz is dead doesn't mean the universe can't continue. They could have V be about an evil AI doing crazy shit again like in 2 that you have to stop or something, and since it's set even more in the future it could be harder sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.2986593]

Should I play vanilla PS2 or Evil Overload?

[Anonymous No.2987198]

Did you watch the Phantasy Star I OVA yet, /vr/ ?

[Anonymous No.2987345]

>>2987198
Still waiting for that patch.

[Anonymous No.2988508]

>>2974561
Whose omnipresent evil is more powerful, Dark Force/Falz's or Giegue's/Giygas'?

[Anonymous No.2988708]

>your face when you get raped by this guy

[Anonymous No.2988775]

How does this compare to the Phantasy Star games? Better or worse? Worth playing?

[Anonymous No.2988785]

>>2981943
Friends of Algo? Some shit I remember it. You could google the Phantasy Star webring. It was a part of that I remember.

[Anonymous No.2988829]

>>2988508
Do you mean Profound Darkness, or Dark Force?

Dark Force is just a fraction of PD's power, though, so I guess Giygas would be stronger than DF, but if we're comparing PD to Giygas, then Profound Darkness wins, hands down.

PD (via time travel shenanigans or in other, unexplained ways, depending on which PSIII ending you take to be canon) destroyed two planets - Earth and Palma, and presumably successfully corrupted two star systems, plagueing Algol for thousands of years in the process of escaping its prison.

>>2988775
It's different in a lot of ways. I like the setting, but the game is a little slow at the start. If you like 8-bit RPGs and Phantasy Star, then you'll probably like it.

[Anonymous No.2988846]

>>2987198

Blonde Alis? GTFO.

[Anonymous No.2988858]

>>2988846
>girls can't dye their hair

[Anonymous No.2988898]

>>2988775
It's really good, and if you like Phantasy Star I you'll like it.

[Anonymous No.2989194]

>>2988858

It's still BS to me.

[Anonymous No.2989645]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-BKRWR1Pg

Pretty neat run.

[Anonymous No.2991371]

When I was playing PS2 i notice something funny about the music

When I was at the save building it sounds fine, but when i came back from the overworld it sounds really different

Is this a bug? I'm playing this game on real hardware

[Anonymous No.2991529]

C/D: Odin with the Laser Gun is one of the best characters in PS1. Not as powerful as Alis, but doesn't require MP to do damage, damages every enemy on the screen, and enemies will never be able to dodge his shots (which, considering how much enemies dodge in PS1, is very useful).

[Anonymous No.2991537]

>>2991529
Actually, for the bosses, it's better if you arm Alys and Odin with Laser Guns, because even if their weapons are 1.5x times stronger than the gun, the gun never misses, and their weapon usually does.

This is kinda imperative when fighting King Lassic, because you can't keep healing everyone indefinitely, Lassic will kill you sooner or later.

[Anonymous No.2991620]

>tfw Wren was almost gonna be in PSO

[Anonymous No.2991768]

>>2991371
Sounds like channels cutting out. Normal game behavior. Pause during a battle at the right time, wait a bit, and when you unpause, you'll notice that some of the music channels are missing until either the song loops or the battle ends, forget which.

There's also another fun bug where you talk to Lutz at the end and all the sound cuts out. If you teleport out of the final dungeon when this happens, the game freezes. You have to not warp to the final dungeon and instead go to town and save/reset the game at which point it functions normally.

This is all also on real hardware.

[Anonymous No.2992014]

>>2991620
It is a very creepy Wren.

[Anonymous No.2993107]

Anyone play those Phantasy Star 2 spin offs made for Sega's old internet network a while back? Like Anne's Adventure and so forth.

[Anonymous No.2993115]

>>2993107
Yeah, those were fun. Depressing (for the most part), but fun. Shir's and Kain's are probably my favorites, though I haven't gotten around to playing Rolf's yet.

[Anonymous No.2993954]

>>2991537

I found that Alis with the Laconian Sword hit enough times that it was still very effective against bosses.

[Anonymous No.2994006]

Did you guys play the PS2 remakes of Phantasy Star 1 and 2 that got English translated? I've been thinking of trying them but wanted to hear what you guys thought.

For reference, I beat PS1 and got half way through PS2 on the GBA Phantasy Star Collection back when that first came out. Played halfway through PSIV and loved it too.

What a charming series. It's depressing to see it's so forgotten in how it exists now.

[Anonymous No.2994113]

>>2991768

Not him

Some emulators like picodrive and certain official saga compilations fixes that music bug

I first played most of the Phantasy Star games on Sega genesis Collection on the PS2, by the time I played it on the real hardware I thought my game was bugged until I realize its a bug

A lot of music sites that had the ost is the fixed version, is there any romhacks that fixes this bug

[Anonymous No.2994172]

>>2993107
Yeah, they're pretty weird for continuity though. Nei's adventure describes Motavia as a barren desert when it's fully terraformed in PS2. Barely any time passes inbetween, so it's not explainable.

[Anonymous No.2994185]

>>2994006
The remakes are pretty awful. They barely resemble the originals and have drastically different gameplay. 1 literally throws the original game mechanics out the window, replaces a whole bunch of monsters and has your characters doing hundreds of damage each, enough to one shot the original game's boss. 2 adds balance-ignoring special moves and has frilly Nei. Absolute filth.

[Anonymous No.2994203]

>>2994006
I finished them but not with a translation.
Generation 1 is too easy for my taste but Generation 2 was alright, if a bit drawn out.

[Anonymous No.2994390]

>>2994185

I know that Playstation 2 Lassic and Dark Force are easier then the SMS versions, but I heard at least Lassic gave some challenge.

[Anonymous No.2997341]

Best monster design.

[Anonymous No.3000043]

>>2997341
I always liked some of the designs of the enemies in these games. PS4 mostly.

[Anonymous No.3000052]

>>2994185
Damage is relative, mate. Remember that Dark Force was two monsters with 250HP and in the remake he has around 7500.

[Anonymous No.3002013]

>>3000052
That's the result of throwing game mechanics away, like I said. All new formulas, all new stats. Not the same game.

[Anonymous No.3002174]

>>2975804

Neiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.. T_T

[Anonymous No.3002186]

>>2976670

WTF are you talking about.. when has it not.. hell that's one of the best parts. Next to actually HAVING a story, and battle system (that's not an F/TPS engine with swords and a few very basic generic spells) and maybe one or two other things.

[Anonymous No.3002193]

>>2976610

Nei's 1000 times over! I mean, there was just something soo damn unfair about it..for her as a char and backstory.

[Anonymous No.3002227]

>>2986161

It's "The Profound Darkness" you're talking about. Dark Force/Falz was nothing but an avatar, or incarnation, of the PD.

[Anonymous No.3004747]

>>2981310
>That pic
Not to be autistic, but it's amazing how the placement of a horizontal line can ruin a good drawing.

[Anonymous No.3004756]

PS1 = Rune/Lutz
PS2 = Rika/Nei
PS3 = Wren/Wren
PS4 = Alys or Chaz? Or someone else?

[Anonymous No.3004757]

>>3002227
>Not to be autistic
It's far too late for that!

[Anonymous No.3004758]

>>3004756
What are you even?

[Anonymous No.3007856]

>>3004758
PS4 has a character that represents each character from one previous game.

[Anonymous No.3007869]

>>3007856
Eh. I don't think that's really an intentional thing. I mean sure Rune inhereted Lutz's mental bits and pieces but all Rika has in common with Nei is a slightly non-human appearence. They're not even the same race. One's an accident of science and one is a master race literally made for breeding.
As for the Wren's, Siren and Forren have little in common beyond being man robots.
And the last line
>PS4 = Alys or Chaz? Or someone else?
Even with your explaination I still have no idea what you meant by that. There's a character in PS4 that represents another character in PS4?

[Anonymous No.3007879]

>>3007869
I mean who would represent 4 in the hypothetical fifth game if they decided to do the representation thing again (which was kinda cool).

Also Rika is Nei because the devs intended her to be a Neitype originally, also I think she can get nei's claws in 4 but I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.3007896]

>>3007869

Kyra represents Kyra, duh.

[Anonymous No.3008240]

>>3004747

[Anonymous No.3008242]

>>2988846
>alis's cuirass is drawn as cloth and her hair with little volume
GTFO

[Anonymous No.3008252]

>>2981807
>no mention of Rieko Kodama on that page
No, I won't sign it.

[Anonymous No.3008258]

>>3007879
She gets the Silver Tusk from Myau. The Nei Claw was in Phantasy Star Online.

[Anonymous No.3009396]

>>2974619
She's such a damn cutie...

[Anonymous No.3009423]

Lyle did nothing wrong.

[Anonymous No.3009793]

>>3008252
Yeah, if they can't get the most important people back then I don't even want PS5 or for modern Sega to even touch the Algol setting. I'd take a single player traditional RPG spinoff in a new PS setting though, regardless of who's on board. That would be something.

[Anonymous No.3010418]

>>3009423

Lyle started all the bullshit that eventually lead to Dark Force being able to wreck havok so fuck him.

[Anonymous No.3010457]

I started playing PS1 today. Is there a better translation? The official one is pretty damn bad.

[Anonymous No.3010473]

>>3010457
yeah there is, there's also a patch to restore fm sound, check romhacking.net

[Anonymous No.3010478]

>>3010473
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1069/
this one I assume?

[Anonymous No.3011992]

>>3009396
It's a shame she's not that great mechanically, 'cause Shir really is my favorite PSII character. Everyone else is there to save the world, and she's just there for shits and giggles.

>>3009423
>>3010418
Nah, it's Rhys' fault. If he had listened to his father, everything would've been fine. Lyle was just rescuing his cousin, man.

[Anonymous No.3012256]

>>3010478
That's the bunny. Enjoy that FM music. Don't play without it!

[Anonymous No.3012262]

>>2974561
What sucked about Phantasy Star 2, which is perhaps the biggest gripe is the layer of pipes/mist in dungeons. Why the fuck did the devs put that whole layer in?

[Anonymous No.3012289]

>>3012262
Because the 8-bit RPGs that PS2 was directly competing against can't do that sort of effect. Only Sega 16-bit high definition blast processing RPGs can do it!

I like the mist, but yeah the pipes are pretty worthless.

[Anonymous No.3013793]

>>3012256
Already played a bunch. The FM music is pretty sweet. I really like how quick the battles are in this.

[Anonymous No.3014324]

Is Phantasy star online welcome?

Or is that just an entirely diff series with the same name, forgive me i'm oblivious.

[Anonymous No.3014347]

>>3014324
PS1-4 and PSO are welcome ITT.

[Anonymous No.3014394]

>>3014324
>Is Phantasy star online welcome?
Yes

>Or is that just an entirely diff series with the same name
Yes

[Anonymous No.3014409]

>>3014324
they are not related at all besides references

[Anonymous No.3015210]

End of the Millennium :3

[Anonymous No.3017587]

[Anonymous No.3018475]

>>3017587
Can't figure out what to do after nabbing the journal out of the mansion.

[Anonymous No.3019650]

There are a couple of old developer interviews for Phantasy Star on shmuplations.
http://shmuplations.com/games/
I never knew Lutz could have been a hermaphrodite.

[Anonymous No.3020185]

>>3017587

[Anonymous No.3022670]

I love the music in PS1.
PS2 also had some good tracks.

About to play PS4, going to go back to 3 later.

[Anonymous No.3022672]

>>3022670
Play 3 before 4, so you can catch one big reference when you get to a dungeon in 4 and appreciate Wren more.

[Anonymous No.3022925]

Are mods deleting replies in this thread?

I could have sworn that when I checked it a couple of days back, there were one-hundred and fifty-something. Now there are 188, but I see only a few new replies...?

[Anonymous No.3023659]

>>3022672
>and appreciate Wren more.
PS4's Wren is not related to the PS3 Wren in any way. Both games are a case of translators changing names for no good reason.

[Anonymous No.3023957]

>>3023659

They're not the same character, but PS4 Wren is inspired by PS3's character called Wren.

[Anonymous No.3024829]

>>3023659
>no good reason.
There is a reason - character limitations. English characters convey less information than Kanji.

Sure, they could've shortened Searren and Fouren differently, but that's not what happened - and calling back to PSIII's Wren-type was likely intentional on the PSIV team's part.

[Anonymous No.3024841]

>>3023659
Wren-types share a collective AI. You didn't know this anon?

[Anonymous No.3025157]

>>2974561
I tried PS1 but what a boring pile of shit.

Why bother with the sequels if the first one's so god damned bad?

[Anonymous No.3025159]

>>3025157
because 4 is literally the greatest jrpg of all time

[Anonymous No.3025167]

>>3024829
you mean kana. names are written in katakana. but yeah you're point is correct

[Anonymous No.3025172]

>>3025159
But do I have to play 1-3 to 'get' it? No thanks then.

If it's a 100% decent stand alone experience that doesn't rely on me being trained into PS already, I might give it a shot.

JRPGs tend to be grindfests too, I don't want to battle the same monster 110000 times just to get a slightly better sword.

[Anonymous No.3025174]

>>3025172
They're set like 100s of years apart from each other so unless missing references bothers you, they aren't necessary to play.

[Anonymous No.3025181]

I played the first one for the first time recently and had a great time
I didn't enjoy 2
3 is okay, kinda dull
4 is great so far, better than the first.

[Anonymous No.3025201]

>>3025174
How is it for grinding? I have little interest in such weeb pastimes but I like a good RPG.

[Anonymous No.3025208]

>>3025201
If you don't level up a bunch you're gonna get fucking raped.

[Anonymous No.3025214]

>>3025201
I found you can jet through a bit in the beginning without grinding, and then you need to grind a little for a dungeon where you get something called Asheline, if that's how it's spelled correctly. Later you need to grind a little here and there to make a couple dungeons bareable, but it's not bad.

[Anonymous No.3025218]

>>3025201
Not your thing then. See you around.

[Anonymous No.3025350]

>>3025167
>you mean kana. names are written in katakana. but yeah you're point is correct
Shit. Yeah, you're right, my bad.

>>3025157
The games are all pretty different - disliking one is not a great indicator of what you'll think of the other games - unless you don't like RPGs, in which case you're looking at the wrong series.

>>3025201
1 and 3 require a little grinding right at the start, but are relatively grind-free later on if you're not retarded. 2 is pretty grindy the whole way through. 4 is pretty grind-free, and if you don't mind missing a handful of callbacks, you can safely play it without touching the rest of the series.

[Anonymous No.3025504]

>>3025350
Thanks for the info, I might give 4 a whirl then.

Earlier JRPGs I can't really get back into. That time's passed for me.

[Anonymous No.3025819]

>>3024829
>Wren-type
But they're not the same type at all, this is the point. Both 'Wren' and Siren (the NPC/boss) from 3 are the same model. Sirens show up as random encounters in PS4 and they look very different from the PS3 versions emphisising that the Fouren model is very different from the Siren (shiiren) model.

And I'm sticking to 'no good reason'. The prototype rom has names based on the originals.

[Anonymous No.3025823]

>>3025201
4 is grind free. It seems some people replying are confused.

[Anonymous No.3025935]

>>2988708
>your ex tells you it looks like your penis when flaccid

[Anonymous No.3026812]

>>3025819
>But they're not the same type at all, this is the point. Both 'Wren' and Siren (the NPC/boss) from 3 are the same model. Sirens show up as random encounters in PS4 and they look very different from the PS3 versions emphisising that the Fouren model is very different from the Siren (shiiren) model.

You're not telling me anything I don't already know. The PSIII devs shortened Shiiren to "Wren", and the PSIV devs called back to that by shortening Fouren to "Wren" (and by including Searren as an enemy in the crashed Palma ship).

Sure, they could've called him something else, but that's not what they did. How would you have shortened it - and in only four characters - in a way that wouldn't look stupid as shit? "Forn", "Four", "Fren", what?

>And I'm sticking to 'no good reason'. The prototype rom has names based on the originals.

What names did they use in that?

[Anonymous No.3027398]

PSO is a sequel to Crys' ending of PSIII where you see the worldship Alisa 3 carrying an undefeated Dark Force towards Ragol (unnamed in PSIII) and its two moons. The moons can be seen in the pso dreamcast start screen and in the episode 2 lobbies.
Also there was going to be a wren type in the game that would have probably solidified this link but it was cut.

[Anonymous No.3027410]

>>3027398
>headcanon

[Anonymous No.3027657]

The GBA in its prime would have been a great place for Sega to bring back Phantasy Star w/ some low-level remakes, like Square-Enix did for Final Fantasy I & II. They wouldn't need to over-design them like the PS2 remakes.

[Anonymous No.3027674]

>>3027657
For the PS2 they're pretty low brow.
Over-designing would have meant turning them into 3D.

[Anonymous No.3027675]

>>3027657
Instead we got a compilation of roms that did nothing to fix what was wrong with those titles (localization, lack of FM synth in PS1, need to grind, etc.). And then on top of that introduced new bugs.

[Anonymous No.3027687]

>>3027398
neat

[Anonymous No.3027918]

>>3027675
Plus a saving glitch.

[Anonymous No.3028219]

>>2976174

unfortunately, the descrips for spells and techs were in the manual instead of in game. That was how they did it at the time.

[Anonymous No.3028791]

>>3026812
Rudy, a four letter name, for one. And yeah, Fouren became Forn in game menus but it's not like dialogue has to use variables pointing to the four letter names. Typing names out adds a matter of bytes to the game's size. The translators got lazy in some cases, and took things too far in others, again Rudy, Fal, Sray and several other names fit.

[Anonymous No.3028794]

>>3027398
The scenario writer for PSO has time and time again stated that it is 100% unrelated to classic Phantasy Star. Do not seek to spread this unfounded bollocks.

[Anonymous No.3029014]

>trying to play phantasy star 2 on Genesis
>tfw it's so fucking slow to get off the ground. The need to grind for tons of money to get decent gear to last long enough to last in the first dungeon

I know old RPGs could be bad, but this is almost torture. Even old Megami Tensei didn't feel this slooooowwwwww

[Anonymous No.3029041]

>>3029014
Dual wielding beats out regular weapons due to being able to potentially kill two enemies in a single attack, and Nei is a physical powerhouse.

In truth, PS2 is a game best played at 120fps at minimum. It took until PS4 for the slow as fuck walking speed to become something blazing fast.

[Anonymous No.3030083]

>>3028794
source?

I only know they did that for pso to psu

[Anonymous No.3030089]

>>3029041
The PS2 collection (not the Generation 1 and 2 remakes) allows you to increase walking speed and the like.

[Anonymous No.3030134]

>>3028794
2001 sega.com interview with Yuji Naka
>Q: Is there any connection between this installation of PSO and any of the previous titles in the series? If so, can you give us any examples?
>The universe of PSO is same with previous Phantasy Star series.

[Anonymous No.3030141]

>>3030134
But that's obvious, since the planet names are the same. Just like how both FFT and FF 12 take place in Ivalice, that still doesn't make them in any way related though.

[Anonymous No.3030165]

>>3030141
>Just like how both FFT and FF 12 take place in Ivalice, that still doesn't make them in any way related though.

I think you should get your water tested for lead or chrome or plutonium or something.

[Anonymous No.3030168]

>>3030134
forgot the link
http://sonicjam.wikidot.com/aii2001:unknown02

ive done alot of googling around and the only other statements ive seen was where Naka calls PSO a Gaiden, which means an in-universe side story or a supplement to a biography. There is an interview with Reiko Kodama revealing that she was partially involved with PSO development. I have found no statements from Takao Miyoshi or Satoshi Sakai on this subject. There are statements from Sakai about PSO being unrelated to PSU.

[Anonymous No.3030172]

>>3030165
FFT, FFT:A, Vagrant Story, and FF12 all take place in the same world, mate.

[Anonymous No.3030197]

>>3030172
Not Vagrant Story, m8.

https://twitter.com/YasumiMatsuno/status/85846703474872321

https://twitter.com/YasumiMatsuno/status/85824025993035776

[Anonymous No.3030263]

Rag Rappy = Ragol Rappy
Al Rappy = Algol Rappy
El Rappy = Elysium Rappy
Pal Rappy = Palma Rappy

[Anonymous No.3030469]

>>3030263
D-did my head just explode...?

[Anonymous No.3030583]

>>3030172
>>3030197
And not even some of those other ones.

[Anonymous No.3030589]

>>3030134
>>3030141
>two unrelated franchises follow exactly the same canon structure
Because that's how it works.

[Anonymous No.3032858]

>>3030263

[Anonymous No.3032936]

Headcanon time
According to the compendium Lutz and Alis had a lot of alone time together away from Odin and Myau for a few years after Phantasy Star.
Rolf could be the great grandson of Lutz. Making him the first candidate to receive Lutz's memories to become the second Lutz. The Lutz title and position continues down a genetic line and that makes Rune a descendant of Rolf.

Anyone know where I can find scans of Phantasy Star: Out Side Saga?

[Anonymous No.3033473]

>>3028791
>Rudy
That name actually sounds vaguely familiar, now that you mention it. I suppose that works.

Still, though, I don't think it's that big of a deal they left Fouren's name as Wren.

[Anonymous No.3033605]

>>3033473
It's not that the name changes offend me, but it was a poor decision because it implies there is a relation between the two different types of androids when there is none. This whole conversation started as a correction of this misconception, not a translation criticism.

[Anonymous No.3034092]

I need help

I have a Lv 42 HuMAR in PSO 1 & 2 and I'm trying to beat Dark Falz on Normal. I have most spells at the highest level HuMAR can have them. I have at least one Scape Doll. I'm on a plasma TV, so my reaction time will be abysmal due to screen lag. How do I beat him? I have a cheap 3rd party memory card which wipes my save after the 40-hour mark. Grinding is not an option unless I leave the game on.

I last tried about 4 years ago. I don't want to get my save wiped a 5th time.

[Anonymous No.3034318]

>>3034092
for normal
increase your ice resitance
for hard mode and higher you also want light resistance

as a hunter if you dont have a decent rare weapon use a raygun from the shop or any better handgun type weapon
its best to keep your distance when attacking so you avoid getting hit with slowmo status
falz is also weak to zonde in his first form and both zonde and barta in his second form

for third form which is only on hard mode and higher you just want to make sure you have enough hp and light resistance to survive his attacks and use handguns, foie, and other ranged weapons to attack him

[Anonymous No.3034332]

>>3034318
also you want an hp stealing weapon for falz third form to keep you from killing yourself when he possesses you

[Anonymous No.3034554]

Does anyone have the Phantasy Star Sympathy 2015 album? It was released on Feb 25th. If you do, please rip it for everyone to hear.

[Anonymous No.3034574]

I'm learning game dev and now I kinda want to make a 3D version of Phantasy Star 3 in Unity

I can imagine that a worldship would have some pretty awesome visuals.

[Anonymous No.3034616]

SCHTHACK is back online!

[Anonymous No.3034650]

>>3034616
foney a cute

[Anonymous No.3034667]

>>3032936

Someone get Alis, Rolf, and Lutz to Maury.

[Anonymous No.3034730]

>>3032936
untranslated scans of part 3 are on orakio rob's website

I'm really interested in this because the Outside Saga story is canon according to the compendium

It also reveals how Lutz invents technics

[Anonymous No.3034817]

>>3034554
It is on YouTube.
http://youtu.be/i2zcD8oTRB8

[Anonymous No.3034824]

>>3034817
That's the 2013 one.

2015 one has Cry for Idola the Holy, which I really want to hear.

[Anonymous No.3034894]

What if the Earthmen in Phantasy Star 2 are the Coralians?

PSO Episode 3 reveals that the Coral Government found another planet to inhabit other than Ragol and that was the last we heard from them

In PS Zero Coral was renamed Earth under Mother Trinity's influence

Most of the mothers that Dr Osto made went crazy because the d-cells used in their cores matured into dark falz. Dr Montague and Calus seemingly found a way to fix this and was able to activate Delta safely.

PSO's MOTHER AI is called "Delta" which is number 4 in greek
Phantasy Star Zero's Mother Trinity can be associated with 3

going by the numbers there are 2 more mothers

PS Zero has another Mother AI, the Heaven's Mother
and Phantasy Star 2 has Mother Brain

Q:But if the theory of PSO happening after PSIII is true then how can the Earthmen be the Coralians?
A: Coralian's have FTL technology.
Their ships travel faster than light and probably time travel as they approach their destination.

Noah might possibly be pioneer 3

[Anonymous No.3034939]

>>3034332
He stated he was a HUmar. This means he has access to Foie and Resta. He doesn't need HP steal to survive. Just some ELT and fluids.

[Anonymous No.3034954]

>>3034092
Also, holy shit, the definition of a fucking NUBmar. Jesus Christ, and I thought I was casul.

[Anonymous No.3034979]

I wonder if Lydomuhl is a place on Coral because that is the name of the country on a planet outside of the Algol system where Lutz learned technics in Outside Saga.

[Anonymous No.3035153]

Are there any private PSO servers for The console versions?

[Anonymous No.3035337]

>>3035153
Yes, 3 that I know of, but none have a large population. I have also often seen folks bouncing from one to another in search of someone to play with, and I sometimes do the same thing myself.

[Anonymous No.3035504]

>>3035153
Like I posted earlier, SCHTHACK is back online and it supports pretty much all versions of PSO.

If you're looking for the classic PSOBB gameplay that's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.3035867]

>>3034616
Now that we have a server that is not plagued with poofterisms, this is not good news.

[Anonymous No.3035874]

>>3034894
>numbers
>timetravel out of nowhere
>autistic need to connect everything into one continuity
>THEORIES
Headcanon is a hell of a drug and canonpoofs frighten me.

[Anonymous No.3035879]

>>3035504
You had me excited for a moment there, only to find out all the data is lost so I cant use my old character anymore.

[Anonymous No.3035926]

>>3034318
I was using a mechgun because it heaps on damage. Would a handgun be safer overall?

Should I really attempt to use Zonde, or any attack spell? The damage seems a bit low for the TP it requires.

Thanks for your help

[Anonymous No.3035927]

>>3035879
Well it's not too bad actually, the tedious part is pretty much getting a mag level 200, after that it's the same old game.

I lost a level 140 from years ago and I don't mind starting over, tried that other server that OP linked but I didn't liked it.

[Anonymous No.3035941]

>>3035926

Depends on the accuracy, and the monster's evasion.
For lots of little, one-shot kills, a handgun is a safer bet. When you need to dig in and kill some bastard, go with the mechguns.
I've never bothered with Zonde, myself. I don't use any of the offensive techs until the mines generally, where Gizonde(or even Razonde, if you're a Force) can tear apart anything, though I save those shots for the Canine(?) groups.

[Anonymous No.3035961]

>>3035941
The mechguns also have a long animation and shorter range than the handgun. I'm curious if switching to the handgun and lowering my DPS would be offset by increased survivability

[Anonymous No.3035962]

>>3035504
Hnnnng!

Also, I play on GC because in my opinion that's the best version, after having played all the others over the years. But if I were to play BB again, I would probably rather play on Ephinea than Ultima or Schthack. Different strokes though.

[Anonymous No.3035965]

>>3035927
The special mags like Rappy level much, much, faster than most other mags.

[Anonymous No.3036849]

>>3035965
They also have x2 EXP events but I missed the first one, one player mode makes it easy to grind too.

Man, sure glad SCHTHACK is back, only downside is that the player base is kinda low at the moment but everyone in the community seems pretty helpful so far.

[Anonymous No.3036874]

>>3035927
I loved PSO for about a month and then it started to feel like I was just doing the same thing over and over again. It was gorgeous and fairly fun to play, but I never understood how anyone got to level 200.

[Anonymous No.3037020]

>>3036874
That's why I was saying the community is really important in this game, grinding doing solo runs gets old pretty fucking fast.

[Anonymous No.3037031]

>>3037020
I was playing when it was new and people were playing it like crazy. I just wish there was more to the game than endless raiding.

[Anonymous No.3037050]

>>3037031
Day 1 PSO player here, people didn't even had the Dreamcast keyboard to type.

Man I miss those days. ;_;

My best experience overall was on OG Xbox though, was fun as hell to play with VoIP built-in.

PSU well, I played that a lot too but it wasn't very fun, PSZ was great though, I wish we could still play it online.

PSO2 is pretty much the only one I missed the boat on, can't get into it at this point.

[Anonymous No.3037058]

>>3037050
It was DC I played on too. It sure was fun, especially at the beginning. But man, I wanted more to do! Also I've always kind of wished it wasn't even called Phantasy Star so I could keep the hope alive we might get a real PSV some day.

[Anonymous No.3037607]

>>2974561
PS is great.

[Anonymous No.3037942]

Sorta new to phantasy star, how is it related to the RPGs? Is it a separate timeline altogether?

[Anonymous No.3037943]

>>3037942
*how is phantasy star online related to the RPGs

[Anonymous No.3038012]

>>3037942
For all intents and purposes, it's pretty much a wholly separate universe. They make some callbacks, but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.3038269]

>>3037050
>PSO2 is pretty much the only one I missed the boat on, can't get into it at this point.
Why is that?

[Anonymous No.3038280]

>>3037942
>Is it a separate timeline altogether?
Yes. There is no continuity between Phantasy Star & PSO no matter what crazy fan-theorists tell you.

Classic PS is classic PS. PSO and PS Zero have a very weak relation to each other that may as well not be there. PSU and PSP/PSP2i form yet another continuity. And PSO2, Nova (and that awful anime) are yet yet another continuity. Any crossovers such as Red Ring Rico or Nagisa appearing in PSO2 are handwaved as 'dimensional travel'.

[Anonymous No.3038352]

The OG series had some fantastic old-school artwork. Even the shitty side-games got some love.

[Anonymous No.3038356]

>>3038352

[Anonymous No.3038358]

>>3038356

[Anonymous No.3038360]

>>3038358

[Anonymous No.3038363]

>>3038360

[Anonymous No.3038365]

>>3038363

[Anonymous No.3038369]

>>3038365
Well, mostly PSII it would seem.

[Anonymous No.3039051]

I got bored and autistically calculated the diameter of each sphere of Alisa III.
all of the shops have the same size
It takes ten steps to walk horizontally from wall to wall on the inside of a shop
and 5 steps to walk completely across a store front in a town map
so steps in interior to town maps are 2:1
dungeons to town maps are also 2:1 because I also measured the steps taken in the landen castle dungeon from the castle throne room to the shop exit and the distance actually worked

town maps take an average of 60 steps to cross horizontally
double that to account for the steps taken on the interior scale and its 120 steps across

on the overworld map it takes only 2 steps to cross a town front so each step on that scale is actually 60 steps
because its tedius to walk across the overworld while running into battles I measured the overworld by pixels
each town is 33 pixels across, so 33 pixels is 120 steps
each world sphere is 3007 pixels across
now to convert to steps
3007 / 33 = 91.12121212121212
91.12121212121212 x 120 = 10934.54545454545 steps
now I'm going to equate a step to a geometrical pace which is 1.5 meters, representing the distance between the places at which the same foot rests on the ground in walking.
10934.54545454545 x 1.5 = 16401.81818181818 meters

so the diameter of each sphere of Alisa III is 16.4 kilometers.
after doing the area calculations there are about 211 square kilometers of land and water surface area in each sphere.

[Anonymous No.3039068]

>>3039051
I hope your fucked up brain let you sleep after this. Mine used to when I had these sorts of things puzzling me. Thankfully, I haven't had one of these keep me awake for a couple of years now...

[Anonymous No.3039079]

>>3039051
>its at least 8 kilometers across an open desert to reach Hazatak Town in Aridia

[Anonymous No.3039101]

>>3039079
PSIII character designer Tohyo Ozaki revealed in his manga that the android Mieu had a function that allowed her to breastfeed Sean as a baby when Thea was too sick to do it herself.

The party should be able to keep hydrated lol

[Anonymous No.3039470]

>>3034730
Damn, I wanted to try and translate it, but scan are so small, I can't recognize half of characters.
I wonder now if it is possible to find SPEC scans in higher resolution. Should, probably, search for them on Japanese or Chinese sites.

[Anonymous No.3039727]

SPEC is so rare now it wouldn't hurt the author to scan them

anyone with copies that can scan them would be doing a major service to keeping the stories alive

[Anonymous No.3040131]

>>3039051
now to build it in minecraft

[Anonymous No.3040505]

>>3039051
Why you do this.

[Anonymous No.3040628]

>>3039051
You know, I've always wondered how big those things were. I guess 10 miles across is a pretty decent size for what's essentially a habitat on a colony ship.

[Anonymous No.3040659]

Does anyone know why PSO did so poorly and why every console had a different name for the game? I remember some being like Episode 1 and 2 and other weird variations of that. I loved the shit out of that game, it honestly was like an early Destiny.

[Anonymous No.3040702]

>>3040659
They did poorly? I thought they were the hottest shit back in the day.

[Anonymous No.3040761]

>>3040659
>why every console had a different name for the game?
Because they were more like sequels that also happened to include the original game content as a bonus.
Episode 1 and 2 has, would you believe, an Episode 2 that the Dreamcast game does not. Blue Burst has an extra episode on top of that. It would be silly to release those games as just 'Phantasy Star Online' because people who own the Dreamcast game would think 'Well, I already have that game, fuck buying it again'.

[Anonymous No.3040789]

>>3040659
Dreamcast may of had its own built in modem for online play for PSO, but the Gamecube PSO required you to go to nintendo's website and buy the broadband adapter. I don't remember seeing it sold in stores.

[Anonymous No.3043375]

layans
were they pure blooded palmans or were they newman-like biomonster hybrids?

[Anonymous No.3043670]

>>3043375
And how did Lyle turn into a dragon? Was it a technique or magic?

[Anonymous No.3044030]

>>3038269
Feels like a generic Nexon MMO instead of a real Phantasy Star game.

[Anonymous No.3044179]

>>3044030
It's not like first PSO feels like real Phantasy Star game, though.

[Anonymous No.3044656]

the only phantasy stars that "feel" like each other is 2 and 4

[Anonymous No.3045152]

>>3043670
genetics
http://users.skynet.be/fa258499/beyondalgo/theory/thea1.html

[Anonymous No.3045864]

I bought the 1 on win virtual console some years ago but never play (my English was really poor at this time). Start playing some weeks ago, really good game even if I forgot what the npc told me and get stuck for several hours every time.

[Anonymous No.3048930]

>>3040659
No cross-console play, and it was on 3 consoles (as well as PC). Split the playerbase way too much

[Anonymous No.3049348]

>started playing PS4 on the Sega Collection

>those anime cut ins during dialogue sequences

No, seriously, how is this game not talked about more? This should be jerked off along Chrono Trigger and FF6 as a 16-bit all time great.

[Anonymous No.3049679]

>>3049348
It's because there's this idiotic, yet really common, mindset that 16-bit RPGs were all SNES games and that other consoles aren't worth a look.

[Anonymous No.3050004]

>>2986161
>They could have V be about an evil AI doing crazy shit again like in 2 that you have to stop or something
technically speaking that still goes back to Dark Force, doesn't it? He corrupted (earth) humanity somehow, didn't he? (I forget if before or after they ruined earth.)

Or were earthmen always bastards intent on making everyone dependent on mother-brain before ruining it so they could take over, without any intervention from DF? My memory isn't too good.

[Anonymous No.3050029]

>>2987198
does this actually exist?
if so where can i watch it

[Anonymous No.3050260]

>>3049348
>those anime cut ins during dialogue sequences
Still the best way to execute cutscenes in 16-bit RPGs.

>>3050029
It is animated cutscene from Dreamcast game Segagaga.

[Anonymous No.3051171]

>>3050004
I believe the correct explanation is that DF is responsible - and that the earthmen are the monks who corrupted lassic in PS1, and are from the earth you reach by black hole/time travel in one of the endings of PS3

[Anonymous No.3051298]

>>3051171
>and that the earthmen are the monks who corrupted lassic in PS1
where'd you get that from? i've never heard it before and now i like the idea

[Anonymous No.3051341]

>>3051298
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

Seriously. I love the Phantasy Star games as much as the next fan who grew up playing them (and still occasionally replays them).

But the amount of fan-fiction grade nonsense that people fabricate regarding PS games tends to be a huge turn-off. Why must people do this?

[Anonymous No.3051365]

>>3051341
>Why must people do this?
3 great games and one game which still has a pretty cool storyline and world if it wasn't rushed to hell
Numerous minor unanswered questions
So many callbacks to previous titles that it's easy to see them where they don't exist.

[Anonymous No.3051383]

>>3051341

Don't make me repost Phantasy Star Ultimate fanfiction again. I will do it if need be. You will read about Lutz (NOT NOAH) on the receiving end of surgery from Neithird (who is working with Lassic for some reason) if things get bad in this thread.

[Anonymous No.3051425]

Are there any easymode modifications for 1, 3 and 4?

I want to actually finish the games, and while I could just play them regularly I'm really more interested in story/explanation than grinding, but I prefer to play the game by my own hands instead of watching someone else online. GO AHEAD, JUDGE ME.

When it comes to 4, ideally one that doesn't leave me stepping on eggshells to avoid the thing where too high a level actually makes you weaker.

[Anonymous No.3051531]

>>3051425
gamehacking.org has some codes that work. You can level up really fast with some codes in PS4 for example. Use a copy of PS4 that doesn't have the high level bug in it though if you power level too high.

[Anonymous No.3051701]

>>3051298
It's as much a fan theory as anything else, though I don't believe it contradicts anything.
see:
>>3051365
>Numerous minor unanswered questions

>>3051425
>When it comes to 4, ideally one that doesn't leave me stepping on eggshells to avoid the thing where too high a level actually makes you weaker.

That happens at level ~90 or so. Even with moderate (and unnecessary) grinding, it's easy to make it to the endgame below level 50. It's not something you need to worry about unless you're deliberately trying to reach max level.

[Anonymous No.3051856]

>>3050260
>Still the best way to execute cutscenes in 16-bit RPGs.
Better than low poly blobs bouncing around the screen in 32-bit RPGs as well. Not until fully voiced cutscenes became a thing could anything compete with PS4's storytelling method.

[Anonymous No.3051939]

>>3050260
I prefer Lunar's cutscenes.

[Anonymous No.3052065]

For PS1-4 What is the best version to play?
Original / GBA Collection / Ps2 Collection / Ps3 Sega Collection / Others?

[Anonymous No.3052072]

>>3052065
Original with FM synth music and SMPower retranslation
2-4 on the Genesis

[Anonymous No.3052095]

>>3052065
PS2

[Anonymous No.3052121]

>>3052065

>>3052072
Correct. Allow me to second it.

[Anonymous No.3053136]

It's somewhat odd to see PSII referenced in cartoons these days.

>in-show it's called "Age of Grinders"

Ha.

[Anonymous No.3054545]

>>2975809
This anon here.

Finished PS1 tonight. Played the original English version on Master System. Was surprised you could save anywhere, and drawing maps was fun.

Anyway, I'd like to play the rest now. If I follow this topic right. I should play 3, then 2, then 4, right? Looking to save best for last, but don't want to screw up the sequence. But it sounds like 3 is a basted child. Right?

[Anonymous No.3054553]

>>2975809
I had a rerelease on the GBA with phantasy star 2 and 3.

[Anonymous No.3054585]

>>2981807
>Atlus
Why?

also
>change.org
The won't do shit. You're best best would be twitter, and even then that won't probably won't do shit.

Sega did have a recent survey for fans though, so I hoped you said you wanted more phantasy star.

[Anonymous No.3054629]

>>3053136
Bruv, that is obviously parodying PS4 specifically. If the background didn't tip you off the 5-slot party should have.

[Anonymous No.3054632]

>>3054545
>play 3, then 2
Huh?
>don't want to screw up the sequence.
So why are you preparing to do just that?
If you are under the impression that 3 takes place before 2 then you are mistaken.

[Anonymous No.3054713]

>>3054629
Don't think I didn't notice that, but grinding wasn't really necessary in PSIV so the joke kinda falls flat there.

[Anonymous No.3054730]

>>3054713
Grinding doesn't do a lot for you in PS2 either really, famicom. Dispite the artist obviously doing a pretty decent job of refrencing a specific game I'm sure the writer was just going with the 'old rpgs are grindy' meme and not refrencing any particular game.

But then I'm just guessing, I got no idea what show this is.

[Anonymous No.3055509]

I'd like to have seen what PS-III could have been had it not been rushed to hell.

The rushed emptiness of it does give it a sort of spooky atmosphere which is cool for what it is, but still.

[Anonymous No.3055537]

>>3054730
>Grinding doesn't do a lot for you in PS2

Are you fucking kidding me? You're forced to grind right at the very beginning just to make it to the first town (well, second town really). Which is apropos, since PS1 was exactly the same way.

[Anonymous No.3055583]

>people dissing PS1

this is painful
it was unbelievable during its time and its still a solid classic jrpg even today
getting my son hooked on it and seeing him draw his maps just like i did decades ago was one of my greatest joys as a dad

[Anonymous No.3055746]

>>3054730
>Grinding doesn't do a lot for you in PS2
You spend almost the entire first third of the game grinding for gold so the enemies don't roflstomp you.

>>3055537
>that pic
Fucking hilarious. I always found it a little odd that nobody had anything to say about the assorted vats of creatures growing in the biosystems labs.

>>3055509
If only they'd had time to actually finish it, yeah. There were so many cool little mechanics that just needed a little more dev time buried in the game - the tech system, wren's changing forms, all the unused caves, the multigenerational storyline, etc.

[Anonymous No.3055767]

>>3055746
Two claws on Nei, two knives on Rolf. Bam, many problems are solved.

[Anonymous No.3056592]

>>3055746
Man, you don't HAVE to buy everything in every shop. Hell, the teleport system exists so that you can go back and buy stuff in previous towns once you can afford it.

[Anonymous No.3056789]

>>3051171
according to the compendium
earthmen came to algol in AW 0822

for some reason there are alot of people that believe the phantasy star ultimate timeline, even though its dates are almost all wrong and some of its events are pure fan fiction. probably because its the easiest timeline to google.

[Anonymous No.3056879]

>>3055767

But you still need to upgrade your weapons throughout the game. Two knives doesn't mean jack if you're using the first ones in the second dungeon.

[Anonymous No.3057691]

Xe-a-thoul (x3, air castle) is the worst.

Or maybe I'm just under-leveled (27-30), but that doesn't really help me since it means navigating out of Air-Castle to find somewhere easier to grind, then navigating back through it all over again.

[Anonymous No.3058417]

>>2976610
Nei

She was basically a kid who suffered a lot and didn't want bad shit to happen and it happened anyways.

Alys got to live a somewhat full life in comparison.

[Anonymous No.3058428]

>>2976729
I really like how PSO has a superficial beat-the-bad guy story but if you actually pay attention to what's going on shit gets spooky.

[Anonymous No.3058435]

>>2982370
>One of the games speaks of Newmans aging rapidly and randomly dying without showing any signs prior illness.

It was PSO.

[Anonymous No.3059901]

>>3055583
This.

PS1 may not be as great as 4, but for an 8-bit RPG it's phenomenal.

[Anonymous No.3059940]

>>3059901
why was PS2 such a downgrade compared to 1

dungeon crawling in PS2 just isn't fun

[Anonymous No.3059947]

>>3059940
Didn't they rush the game out in 6 months or something.

[Anonymous No.3059951]

>>3059947
yeah i guess they were just very desperate for a launch title

at least PS4 fixed these issues

[Anonymous No.3060232]

>>3059940
>dungeon crawling in PS2 just isn't fun
has anyone made a way to just cheat through them yet?

i keep stalling because even that dungeon where you get the dynamite is a tedious hellhole. even with cheats and a map, it's just too fucking long and too empty to be fun.

[Anonymous No.3060236]

>>3060232
Isn't that the very first dungeon?

You might as well drop the game now, because that's all it's gonna be.

[Anonymous No.3060261]

>>2976610

Alys. I was more attached to her in terms of writing. Nei on paper is more tragic than an older mentor figure dying but in terms of overal execution Alys left a bigger impact

I like to think she somehow stuck Hahn with the funeral expenses

[Anonymous No.3060270]

>>3059951
>YFW the lashiec castle layout mirrored it's PS1 maps at the last stretch of the dungeon

[Anonymous No.3060631]

>>3060261

You actually got ot see Alys interact with the crew and have her own personality, so her death hit you. In-game, Nei personality and interactions was limited to her saying "I'm going with you no matter what!" at the start of the game and that was it.

[Anonymous No.3061130]

>>3057691
The only thing that made those guys remotely bad was if you decided to do AoE attacks. Then they flat out fucked you up.
Learned that the hard way...btw, that place is easy if you find one of the many recharge pads in the castle. I think you can only actually reach one(back near the entrance, you can enter from inside), but once you do that, it's easy street.

>>3060261
>somehow stuck Hahn with the funeral expenses
HAHAHAHA!

[Anonymous No.3062273]

>playing PS2
>get pretty far in nido tower
>blaster wipes out my entire party in ONE shot
what the fuck was that, how are you supposed to know that would happen

[Anonymous No.3062326]

>>2975032
Final Fantasy ripoff? Have you ever played the first Phantasy Star?
By the way, it was far more entertaining than FF after long hours with both of them.

[Anonymous No.3062386]

>>3062273
You are not supposed to. This game will make you cry and you'll either love it or hate it.

[Anonymous No.3063797]

>>3062273
Why would you assume that you're supposed to know? You learn to succeed by failure like any other 1989 game.

[Anonymous No.3063891]

>>3062273
git gud

[Anonymous No.3063896]

>>3063797
i assumed i was appropriately leveled and had the right equipment since every other enemy in the dungeon was a push-over

[Anonymous No.3063916]

>>3063896
There's never an appropriate level in this sort of game. Learn what monsters will fuck you over and run the second you see them. You'll find that the reward for defeating the blasters is pretty much nothing.

[Anonymous No.3063929]

>>3063916
>run the second you see them
that would be an acceptable solution, if the RNG for running away wasn't a complete turd

even phantasy star 1 had better RNG for this

[Anonymous No.3064196]

So I got the SMSpower version and opened it in retroarch, but when I press start at the tile screen it cycles between shitty music and mute. What do i have to do to get FM?

[Anonymous No.3064302]

>>3064196
Just forget it. The FM soundtrack sounds incredibly muffled and muted compared to the other one. The instrument choice is pretty bland and doesn't project the same atmosphere. People only "like" it because of the sense of novelty, even if they don't realize or won't admit it. But, don't take my word for it: just compare the two soundtracks on YouTube to see what I mean.

[Anonymous No.3064402]

>>3064302
Don't you think it is possible, old chap, that you just have a touch of the shit taste?

>>3064196
>What do i have to do to get FM?
Use a real emulator. Kega Fusion does it. TwoMBit does it. A glorified frontend is no substitute for quality software.

[Anonymous No.3065148]

>>3064196
you press A, not start.

dont know what the fuck those other anons are talking about

[Anonymous No.3065178]

>>3063896
As >>3063916 said, there's not really an "appropriate level" in PSII, except in a really general sense. There's always a couple monsters in every part of the game that are just strong enough to make you afraid when they show up, unless you grind like crazy for exp.

The whole set of monsters that look like the blasters will fuck you up, though (I think pulsers are the next step up? They show up in the biosystems lab, iirc). Either kill them quickly or run the fuck away until you can handle ~20 damage per person per blaster.

[Anonymous No.3066319]

>>3065178
i think there are weaker pallette swaps of the blasters that are no trouble.

[Anonymous No.3066413]

>>3065178

PS1, PS2, and PS3 are far more dependent on your gear than your levels. Levels are really only useful for building up HP over time and learning new techniques.

Whenever I play them, I make sure that all of my gear is the best available before heading out for a dungeon.

[Anonymous No.3066438]

>>3066413

Mieu was really cute. I wish PS3 was better

[Anonymous No.3066623]

Copped the collection on GBA last night from a pawn shop, still waiting on delivery. I know nothing about this series outside from PSO private severs. Can I get some tips 'n tricks from my buddies?

[Anonymous No.3066630]

>>3066623
Don't save when the music is about to restart a loop. Horrible glitch that can crash the game and potentially ruin your file. You can also lower the encounter rate in II by hitting the start menu. This gives you a few steps of leeway, but abusing this trick leads to slow travels and underleveling.

[Anonymous No.3066657]

>>3066413
>PS1, PS2, and PS3 are far more dependent on your gear than your levels.
This is very much true for PS4 as well. Stat increases are very tiny indeed, though at least the stats actually function this time around.

[Anonymous No.3066664]

>>3066630
Nice one. I'll keep the music loop in mind. I'm basically going in blind and rather excited. But do you have an estimate of the length of each game?

[Anonymous No.3069000]

>>3066664
play the phantasy star 2 text adventures before starting 2

you can get them in english here:
http://pscave.com/dow/rom/fantranslated.shtml

[Anonymous No.3069303]

>>3069000
While PS2 isn't really story heavy, on principle you never play or watch a prequel first. That is what we call going full retard.

[Anonymous No.3069591]

>>3066413
>that crotch guard

[Anonymous No.3071457]

>>3069591
>he doesn't strap computer mice to his knees and pelvis before adventuring

[Anonymous No.3073428]

>>3069303
This, and I don't even like 2.
1 and 4 for life.

[Anonymous No.3075939]

>>3066413
>I make sure that all of my gear is the best available before heading out for a dungeon
You must be really over leveled when you play PS2 then. There is no need to have 4 ceram knives before you head to skure. Upgrading you fiber armor to titanium is a waste of meseta too. just go straight to ceramic armor.

[Anonymous No.3075945]

>>2977206
PS1 actually came out 2 days after FF1 in Japan. I believe it was the first console JRPG to be released in the west, though.

[Anonymous No.3076187]

>>3069591

DON'T FIST GYNOIDS

[Anonymous No.3078462]

i wish these games had an OVA adaptation

[Anonymous No.3078929]

>>3078462
Dude, read the whole thread.

[Anonymous No.3078939]

>>3078929
are you talking about segagaga

that ain't an OVA

[Anonymous No.3078941]

>>3078939
>still didn't read the whole thread

[Anonymous No.3079834]

>>3066438
>Mieu was really cute. I wish PS3 was better.

Agreed on both counts. PS3 was hot garbage masquerading as a Phantasy Star, but in the right hands the character designs really pop.

[Anonymous No.3079842]

>>3079834

the really sad part is I can see where they where going and see how it COULD have been a great game.

Varying story paths that span multiple generations? A colony star ship that's the size of a world? The journey of a loyal pair of cyborgs watching their masters age and die?

This could have been amazing. If any game deserves a remake

[Anonymous No.3079890]

>>3078941
Different anon here, I've been following this thread from the beginning and I still have no idea what you're on about.

[Anonymous No.3080048]

>>2981943
Pscave?

[Anonymous No.3080593]

>>3079834
>sample
Way to save the thumbnail, you dumb retard.

[Anonymous No.3080956]

>>3080593

It's a sample because no one fucking has the actual book it's printed in, you dumb retard.

The game was from 1990 high res wasn't even a thing yet and we're lucky to even have samples kicking about.

You stupid fucking newfag

[Anonymous No.3080968]

>>3080956
Genuinenly made me laugh.

[Anonymous No.3081284]

>>3079842
>This could have been amazing. If any game deserves a remake

What we need is a proper, well-done remake of PS3 - though even if Sega was to do like what they did with 1 and 2 I'd be okay with it. Something faithful to the original in all of the ways that made it good - the atmosphere, the music, the overarching story - but with actual effort put into the dialogue, the dungeons, the enemy sprites, and the tech system.

I'd try to do it myself, but I have neither the requisite art skills nor the time to undertake a coding project of that scale; and I'd feel bad asking someone else to do that if I couldn't put any effort towards it myself.

[Anonymous No.3081571]

>>3081284
Both Generations games were awful, though.

It's no wonder they stopped after 2.

[Anonymous No.3081859]

You know what would have been cool, gameplay-wise? If Nei's death would have directly affected the Neifirst battle. What otherwise would have been an OP boss fight could have caused her to lose health every turn, or even be DOA if Nei were already dead.

It makes sense story-wise, at least. I think.

[Anonymous No.3082020]

>>3081284

Is there even a retranslation patch? A lot of the story got raped sideways when bringing it over

[Anonymous No.3082025]

>>3082020
I'd be a lot more interested in a PS2 retranslation that brings it more in line with the SMSPower translation.

[Anonymous No.3082365]

>>3081284
>though even if Sega was to do like what they did with 1 and 2 I'd be okay with it.
I would not. Those remakes were woeful. PS3 needs love, not laziness, to become amazing.

[Anonymous No.3082370]

>>3082025
There is a partial retranslation of PS2. It fixes a few things for continuity and the like but a lot of stuff is the same old shit '89 translation.

[Anonymous No.3082402]

>>3082365

1 was pretty okay

2 was a mess though. What they did to Nei's design was criminal

[Anonymous No.3082416]

>>3082402
1 was okay on the art front maybe but it's gameplay was redone from the ground up. 2 may have been fuck ugly but at least there was some resemblance of the original game in there. 1 isn't even a remake, it's a new game with old maps.

[Anonymous No.3082463]

>>3082402
All designes in 2 were criminal.

[Anonymous No.3082589]

>tfw we have high quality scans of all of the phantasy star futabasha books and very little translations

soo much plot

[Anonymous No.3082591]

>>3082463
The art actually reminded me of the Tsukihime anime.

[Anonymous No.3082596]

>>3082589

[Anonymous No.3082603]

>>3082589
I'm more interested in scans of Outside Saga manga, but they'll hardly ever pop up. Maybe one of these days I'll look into those game books.

[Anonymous No.3082618]

we did get translations of a lot of the bad endings from the first book

>>3082596
Alisa stood up firmly. Even while being showered in flames, she closed in on the dragons.

“I won’t die without putting up a fight…” said Alisa.

Finally she plunged her sword through the throat of one of the dragons.

“Tyrone… Lutz… Myau… I… leave the rest… to you…”

Alisa slunk down, severely injured. Watching over her friends, she followed her brother’s footsteps.

END

[Anonymous No.3082623]

>>3082618
Tyrone’s axe grazed the snakes in Medusa’s hair before plunging itself deeply into the wall. Bleeding snakes wriggled around on the floor.

“Impudent boy! I’ll make it so you won’t be able to come back to life this time!” Medusa’s eyes bewitchingly sparkled.

Averting their eyes was futile. Medusa’s terrifying magical powers had ensnared everyone in Alisa’s party, turning them to stone! There was no one left to save them now…

END

[Anonymous No.3082627]

>>3082623
Bolts of lightning once more came flying from La Shiec’s staff, overwhelming Alisa and her comrades.

“In honor of you making it this far, I’ll refrain from giving you a slow and painful death. Instead I’ll kill you all in one blow!”

The next lightning bolt was severe; in less than a second, their hearts had ceased beating…

END

[Anonymous No.3082629]

>>3082627
If it was just one or two Mammoths, it would be a different story; they had enough confidence to win a battle like that. However, with such a dizzying number of Mammoths, their swords and guns were useless.

The difference in power was overwhelming. Unable to run away, the herd of Mammoths descended upon Alisa and party, trampling them!

END

[Anonymous No.3082631]

>>3082629
The monsters from below came up to them. A Golem, King Saber, Frost Dragon, Death Bearer, Machine Guardian, and Mad Stalker – a collection of the most powerful enemies…

There was no way to win against all of them.

“But there’s no where for us to run!”

That was indeed correct. They closed in on Alisa and her comrades, sending them plummeting off the edge.

END

[Anonymous No.3082634]

>>3082631
With a sword in its right hand and a Beam Gun in the other, the Centaur attacked the group. Razor-sharp beams came flying at Alisa and party. The beams burned holes through their shields and armor.

“There’s no place to hide here. Let’s retreat for now!” shouted Alisa

However, they were unable to do that. They were completely surrounded – the Centaur moved swiftly. It seems he wasn’t an Imperial Guard just for show.

Alisa’s body writhed in pain. The Centaur had pierced through her body with his sword!

As Alisa rapidly lost her consciousness, she felt as though she could hear her comrades calling out to her…

END

[Anonymous No.3082637]

>>3082634
The “Chaos User” was strong beyond imagination.

Of all things, he used Tandle —the most powerful magical attack!

A white and blue light floated up into the sky, resembling an orb. The orb then burst into forty thousand sparks of lightening; there was no way to evade the attack. Instead, they all burned to death and perished.

END

[Anonymous No.3082639]

Sweltering heat and blood loss robbed the strength of Alisa and her comrades.

Alisa coughed violently as she inhaled smoke. At the same time, the Dragon Wise inhaled deeply before breathing out more powerful flames.

It was a battle enshrined in fire. The outcome of this fight was determined from the start. The intense blaze took the life of the fifteen year-old girl, Alisa.

END

[Anonymous No.3082640]

>>3082639
The enemy’s tail strikes were too powerful. Alisa became totally unable to move; countless bones seemed to have been broken.

Right then, the Green Dragon launched flames from its mouth. In only one instant, the flames were able to burn her to death.

END

[Anonymous No.3082643]

>>3082640
“Th-this is awful…”

The poisonous gas robbed the party of any remaining strength they had left.

Myau, Lutz, and Tyrone…. One by one, they all succumbed to the poison. Finally, Alisa vomited blood until she too had succumbed. The village of Sopia was still so far away.

END

and thats most of the translations that I could salvage before pixelkiss shut down the translation site

[Anonymous No.3082736]

Wow, some of those are pretty gruesome. Especially when you remember that Alisa is 15 years old.
I wonder why they never made game book for PS IV.

[Anonymous No.3082769]

>>2974561

never played this, but I get the weird urge to adopt the purple elf girl and introduce her to the human world.

[Anonymous No.3082771]

>>3082736

alot of games have gruesome deaths, text adventures are worse imo because they work on the imagination.

I remember one death in shadowgate that described acid dissolving your throat.

[Anonymous No.3082798]

>>3082629
>trampled by mammoths
How embarrassing. Are these choose your own adventure books?

>>3082769
Bad idea. Most humans kind of want to burn her at the stake.

[Anonymous No.3082806]

>>3082798
its a hybrid choose your own adventure book / pen and paper rpg
it even has an inventory system
the later books get even more complex

here's a web archive remnant from the translation site about how it works
https://web.archive.org/web/20120617094906/http://pixelkiss.com/ps/?page_id=58

[Anonymous No.3082809]

>>3082798

I hadn't realized that, that's very inconvenient. maybe I'd keep her safe (to myself) in my personal manor.

[Anonymous No.3082819]

>>3082806
Hey, I remember that site. Nifty.

>>3082809
Oh, did I mention she'll die within 2 years? Of age. Because she's an abomination of biomonster and human cells. But, you know, have fun parenting and stuff.

[Anonymous No.3082829]

>>3082819

I could still have 2 comfy years with her. and for an abominable chimera who perverts the laws of nature, she's cute.

[Anonymous No.3082905]

>>3078462
>>3079890
>ctrl-f
>"OVA"
>one of the results on this page is your answer
There. Now, go track it down for yourselves. I'm done here.

[Anonymous No.3083234]

>>3082905

[Anonymous No.3083414]

>>3082365
>I would not. Those remakes were woeful. PS3 needs love, not laziness, to become amazing.
While I agree, at this point I really just want someone to pay attention to it. All of the PS3 romhacks are weeby shit, utter garbage from a gameplay perspective (compared to the original), or both, and there's no promise of anyone actually putting some love into the game (or really, the whole Phantasy Star IP), so I'm willing to take what I can get.

[Anonymous No.3084256]

>>3082905
M8, that is the first thing I did. There is no OVA you homo sapien. It's like you didn't even read the posts that had the word OVA in them and the replies to those posts.

[Anonymous No.3087125]

If Neifirst was never killed would she have taken down Mother Brain?

[Anonymous No.3087181]

>>3087125
But why would she do it?

[Anonymous No.3087192]

>>3083234
>Rather than defending being a lazy fuck I'll just post some Chinese shit

[Anonymous No.3087386]

>>3082402

The PS1 remake gave us the angry Alis pic in >>3082402 and that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.3088521]

>>3087386

have more Alis face

[Anonymous No.3088525]

[Anonymous No.3088530]

It actually kind of bugs me she doesn't get more credit for being an early female lead.

Im not dissing Samus, she deserves her cred but Alis was the first to do it in a dress is all Im saying.

[Anonymous No.3088640]

>>3088530
She's also one of the first JRPG characters to have any sort of depth at all.

[Anonymous No.3088802]

>>3088640

yeah that too. PS1 was ground breaking. What was DQ's hero's story? King said fight the badguy you said okay. FF? King says fight the bad guy you say sure.

Alis? That a-hole killed my bro! IMMA RUIN HIS DAY!

[Anonymous No.3088808]

>>3088802
What about Megami Tensei?

[Anonymous No.3088809]

>>3088808

ill be frank Im just going from what my american ass knows. Ive never actually played the first mt

[Anonymous No.3089767]

>>3088808
Yeah the first Megami Tensei's had little to no characterization either, I thought?

Unless you read the novel which came before.

SMT1's protagonist is where the protagonists started gaining more depth.

[Anonymous No.3091125]

>>3014324
I've only played the PSP ones...

[Anonymous No.3091167]

>>3089767
A genius who wrote a demon summoning program is something even when there's no further character portrayal or development.

[Anonymous No.3091184]

>>3088808
>What about Megami Tensei?
The first game was a sequel to a couple of books. It had two (pretty bad) novels worth of backstory.

[Anonymous No.3091313]

Phantasy Star 3 Generations of Doom is objectively the best. 2 is OK but has too many grind spots.

[Anonymous No.3091317]

>>3091313
Objectively the most ambitious, perhaps, but execution matters more than ambition.

[Anonymous No.3091873]

>>3091313

that's just wrong though

[Anonymous No.3092010]

>>3091317
That's why it's gonna be Trump vs. Hillary in November.

[Anonymous No.3092042]

>>3091313
It had great potential, but the poor execution killed it.

If it got remade with an graphical upgrade, plot expansion, and battle system changed up a bit, it'd be amazing.

[Anonymous No.3092374]

>>3092010
I'm now imagining a shoop portraying Hilary as Alys and Trump as Lassic.

Which is incredibly amusing given I'd take Lassic over Hilary any day.

[Anonymous No.3093038]

Why is it spelled "Phantasy" in the western releases? To avoid confusion with Final Fantasy or because of other reasons?

[Anonymous No.3093039]

>>3093038

It's flashier

[Anonymous No.3093075]

>>3093038
It was spelled that way in Japan.

[Anonymous No.3093076]

>>3091313

4 > 1 > 2 > 3

[Anonymous No.3093097]

>>3093076
truth

[Anonymous No.3093119]

>>3093038
Sounds mysterious and ancient.

It used to be spelled that way in old English.

[Anonymous No.3093137]

>>3093038
Phun phact: like the many words in the English language America ruined the word 'phantasy'. 'Fantasy' is one of the Americanese words that got somehow spilled over into proper English. Thanks, Mr. Roosevelt.

[Anonymous No.3093312]

Started PS2 a few days ago.
Do I grind my new characters and try to have them leveled as close to the MC as humanly possible or do I just stick with fixed party?
Last I got was Anna.

[Anonymous No.3093332]

>>3093312
Use whoever you feel like using. Don't grind, that's the opposite of fun. If you want to level Shir for the visiphone just take her into a dungeon you were going to do anyway. I took her to Uzo and then continued the rest of the game with Anne.

Grinding is a meme, and a meme worth forgetting.

[Anonymous No.3094646]

as of the newest part of pso2 story we have arrived in earth's orbit

there is a lot of empty space to the right of earth

>mfw Alisa III shows up

[Anonymous No.3094931]

>>3094646
would be fucking cool if that happened

[Anonymous No.3095818]

>>3094646
Wait, I thought PSO2 is a sequel to PSO. Isn't it?

[Anonymous No.3095869]

>>3095818
>sequel
That word can be used in many ways, so it is is some ways. But PSO2 is not set in PSO continuity, no.

[Anonymous No.3098763]

Are there any anime similar to Phantasy Star?

I guess basically a science-fantasy adventure with a similar balance to the PS series.

[Anonymous No.3098841]

>>3098763

Gaiarth? Haven't watched it in forever though

[Anonymous No.3099841]

>>3098763
Not much science but Slayers is pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.3100154]

>>3099841
It's basically Phantasy Star: the anime if it had only magic and Alys was a greedy cunt.

[Anonymous No.3101127]

This ending has always stuck with me.

[Anonymous No.3101130]

>>3101127
*beginning

[Anonymous No.3101134]

[Anonymous No.3101489]

>>3098763

Have you seen Outlaw Star?

>>3100154

It's nothing like Phantasy Star. It's Lodoss War with Jpop

[Anonymous No.3101668]

>>3101489
>Slayers is nothing like Phantasy Star
>but Outlaw Star is

[Anonymous No.3101915]

>>3098763
Literally Slayers in space!

[Anonymous No.3101941]

>>3101915
That discription is setting someone up for disappointment. I couldn't get into it because it was not what I expected, and I expected Slayers in space.

[Anonymous No.3101974]

>>3101915
Canal best ship AI

>its not Slayers in space
still closer to phantasy star than Slayers, although I see why Outlaw star is and isn't at the same time. they are all space/fantasy so, make of it what -you- will.

[Anonymous No.3102187]

Star Ocean has better characters and gameplay, why aren't you playing that instead?

[Anonymous No.3102339]

>>3102187
Because Phantasy Star has better sci-fi/fantasy setting.

[Anonymous No.3102501]

>>3102187
None of the Star Ocean characters would survive a Phantasy Star game.

[Anonymous No.3103273]

>>3101668

>Has magic
>Has robots
>Set in space

It's sure as shit a lot closer.

[Anonymous No.3103446]

>>3103273
Those are some pretty vibrant colors.

[Gregg Richards No.3106550]

>>3025157
PS1 is good as fuck, specially for it's time. Give it time, it will grow on you. PS2 is hard as nails and a pretty depressing game. PS3 is bad and had no real conection to the series. PS4 is really fucking good. I mean that game can go toe to toe with the Final Fantasy series. It's THAT good.

[Marjorie Benson No.3106741]

>>3103273
>has magic
>has robots
>these are vastly more important than the fact that the plot and characterization in this show are absolutely nothing resembling Phantasy Star
>nevermind that the cast from Slayers much more closely fit the same archetypes as those in PS1, and they also get tangled up in the return of an ancient, universe-threatening evil

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Terrance Lloyd No.3106767]

>>3106550
>hard as nails
It's only difficult the same way standing in a pit with a leaky pipe is. It's fine until you're out of healing items.

[Violet Harding No.3106924]

>Play DQ1, came out before PS1
>Player moves, camera is always centered on player. Always have a fair equal scope of the surrounding map.
>Play PS2, came out a year after DQ3
>Move player, camera doesn't move until play moves far enough, creating a skewered camera and limiting scope, discouraging exploration.

Shit game senpai.

[Katherine Burton No.3106971]

>>3106924
yeah i honestly can't tell if they did that because artificial difficulty when exploring dungeons or if the game was just rushed (it was) and they didn't fix that

[Raymond Little No.3108436]

>>3106924
That is a pretty unforgivable flaw, yeah.

[Hubert Washington No.3108507]

>>3106971
>>3108436
I'm actually shocked that no one's hacked the rom to fix it. That and removing the annoying foreground (or at least altering it so it's not quite so obnoxious) would be pretty huge quality-of-life improvements to the base game, since the game lives and dies by its dungeons.

Mostly dies.

[Anonymous No.3109963]

>>3108507
Fuck you, I always loved pipes. They give a sense that you are actually inside of a hi-tech building.

[Anonymous No.3110801]

>>3109963
IT. WAS. ANNOYING.

Maybe less so if the camera was fixed, but that damn foreground layer was rage-inducing. There are certainly better ways to introduce a futuristic aesthetic without covering up half the screen at all times. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't present in nearly every interior dungeon (caves got a fog effect instead).

And they had the gall to bring it back in G2.

[Anonymous No.3110853]

>>2976174
Something you should get used to in a hurry is that there are two major types of enemies; biological and mechanical. Many skills and techs only work on one of the two.

Chaz's Earth skill stuns an enemy for at least on turn. It may affect both types, but I sincerely don't remember if it'll work on robots for sure.

Gryz' Brose tech attempts to instant-kill an entire group of enemies, but the catch is that it only works against robots.

There are no maps, but aside from one or two places, the dungeons tend to have a relatively unique design. You can stumble your way through easily enough if your levels and tech/skill usage are sufficient.

[Anonymous No.3110869]

>>2978572
Casts never had techniques, though. Some humans didn't even have technique, like Odin from PS1 or Rudolph from PS2. Then there's Wren and Demi from PS4, who are both lacking in techniques.

The plot-reason is that Techniques are derived from psychic power, and some humans simply don't develop those powers, and cybernetics/androids simply do not have any psychic potential at all due to the mechanical nature of their being.

PS3 is fucking weird and doesn't follow the rules and does its own thing. You can't realistically count that, especially since it was developed by another team that had no idea what the fuck.

[Anonymous No.3110874]

>>2981943
Phantasy Star Pages. (phantasy-star.net)

[Anonymous No.3110892]

>>2978215
>>2977910
how could they fuck up Nei so bad is beyond my understanding. I mean, how do you use money and return THIS shit?

[Anonymous No.3110921]

>>3110892
I'll tap dat Nei.

[Anonymous No.3111005]

>>3057691
Equipping Kyra with the Reflect Robe, Plasma Field, Reflect Shield, and Psy Crown is the most powerful defensive option you have and will make the triplets lightning attack do laughable amounts of damage.

But if you kill one as quickly as possible, the fight is effectively over and you wouldn't need such a ridiculously defensive setup.

[Anonymous No.3111015]

>>2978215
Uhm what Tsukihime anime?

[Anonymous No.3111032]

[Anonymous No.3111053]

phantasy star was super good because it was made primarily by women.

[Anonymous No.3111061]

>>3111053
Didn't know yuji naka was transex.

[Anonymous No.3111119]

>>3110892

Ugh. that's hideous

[Anonymous No.3111142]

>>3057691
If you want to grind there's really only one place in the entire game to do it, imo: sandworms. I always grinded on them as soon as they were available, even though it was pretty rng on whether I'd even survive the fight.

[Anonymous No.3111356]

>>3111061
one guy is an entire development team!!!!

you got any more pearls of wisdom you want to share or can i stick my dick in your mouth now

[Anonymous No.3111414]

>>3111053
psy-tation
needed

[Anonymous No.3111763]

>>3110801
>those sprites
Oh god, delete this!

[Anonymous No.3111774]

>>3110801
You can turn the pipes off in Generation 2.

[Anonymous No.3111783]

>>3111414
i can only think of reiko kodama, who directed the phantasy stars (and skies of arcadia)

[Anonymous No.3111993]

Someone post Anna's Generation 2 menu portrait. I could use a laugh.

[Anonymous No.3113012]

>>3111414
>>3111783
http://shmuplations.com/phantasystar/

The question about the dungeon bakery, specifically... but that whole interview is some good shit. Anyway, this line:

>But yeah, that event reflects the large number of women on the Phantasy Star development staff.

Seems legit. I wouldn't say the team was comprised PRIMARILY of women, but it seems they had more on staff than was the norm at the time... or even after.

>>3111774
>You can turn the pipes off in Generations 2
omg game changer

Actually, looking at that pic I nicked off google images again, those pipes are actually see-through, aren't they? That's an interesting compromise, they might not be as intrusive after all during gameplay. I still stand by what I said about the original's, though.

[Anonymous No.3113346]

>>3111993
Eh.

[Anonymous No.3113792]

>>3113346
Holy shit

[Anonymous No.3113953]

>>3113346
That's Amia.