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/orgg/ - Overrated Retro Games General Anonymous Tue Jan 5 17:16:31 2016 No.2897664 [Reply] [Original]

What videogames do you consider to be overrated and to have aged badly, /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 17:40:02 2016 No.2897716 >>2897664 You first, OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 18:19:56 2016 No.2897762 >>2897664 If you're gonna keep making these threads at least change the OP picture and stop being a cum guzzling faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 18:32:02 2016 No.2897775 >>2897664 >aged badly My favorite meme.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 18:33:50 2016 No.2897776 >>2897664 well since we're already in a troll thread: 3DPD Zeldas

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 18:35:00 2016 No.2897780 Oh boy, here we go

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:03:19 2016 No.2897835 Half-Life

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:05:41 2016 No.2897838 super mario world

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:10:18 2016 No.2897846 >>2897775 Unless you're using meme in traditional sense then it's not a meme, if you are then that's kinda sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:12:17 2016 No.2897848 >>2897664 Do people even like this game for the gameplay ? All I ever hear people talk about it is the cutscenes, quotes, story, etc. Moviegames like MGS are cancer tier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:13:24 2016 No.2897850 >>2897848 Your shit opinions are cancer tier.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:15:31 2016 No.2897858 >>2897664 I don't think it aged though. I liked it better than MGS 2, and I played 2 before the first one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:20:06 2016 No.2897869 File: 39 KB, 468x303, YoShit's Island.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:20:45 2016 No.2897871 FFIV

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:22:30 2016 No.2897878 >>2897664 Why are people so butthurt on this board?

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:23:49 2016 No.2897880

Off topic, but I'm browsing on mobile amd my connection was being shitty and I could still tell that OP hasn't changed the fucking image.
And does he serriously think these threads are ever going to take off?

On topic; MGS1 is absolutely fine today. Played it for the first time two years ago and it's still a good game

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:25:50 2016 No.2897885 >>2897878 Altruism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:26:08 2016 No.2897889 Shenmue, unless you love walking and talking simulators.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:27:39 2016 No.2897892

>>2897878

People can't handle the fact that other people have different tastes.

I don't get it, I actually like to know that there are people that not only dislike, but actually loathe with all their heart some games I absolutely love. I don't get how some people can get offended by that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:30:04 2016 No.2897895 File: 28 KB, 496x499, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2897664 Your mom.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:33:53 2016 No.2897909 >>2897869 yeah the GBA port was shit compared to the original

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:34:57 2016 No.2897913 >why does he keep making this thread? We keep replying every time and yet he doesn't stop!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 19:40:32 2016 No.2897928 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_video_games

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 20:03:55 2016 No.2897987

>>2897850
He has a point. The MGS series has one of the most passionate fanbases on not just 4chan but the entirety of the internet. The games almost all have a very lopsided non gameplay to gameplay ratio. Perhaps more so then any other action games of it's kind. MGS4 is by far the worst offense of this.

I also get this strange feeling that there are those amongst the fanbase that will lie and say ridiculous things to defend the game. In fact I believe there is a MGS fan liar in this thread right now.

MGS1 was also the founding father of the cinematic game. This cannot be debated since it popularized the worst aspects of modern gaming as we know it. Contrast this with id's idea on how Doom should be and it is very telling.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 20:07:17 2016 No.2897997

I wouldn't consider MGS overrated. At least not by normal people. There are of course the drones in the kojima defense force that will spin anything around to make a negative look like a positive. ie, "x is only shit because kojima DID THAT ON PURPOSE because he is le epic ruseman. 11/10"

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 20:32:54 2016 No.2898061 >>2897987 ID's old idea of what a videogame should be kind falls flat for RPG's.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 20:46:51 2016 No.2898094 File: 32 KB, 453x500, 1369786014181.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/vr/ will literally never stop taking the bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 01:20:49 2016 No.2898628 >>2897664 Super Mario 64. It didn't innovate jack shit. There were plenty of other 3D games at the time and before it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 01:26:20 2016 No.2898642 File: 18 KB, 927x885, bait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2898628 You and every other special snowflake in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 01:33:33 2016 No.2898656 >>2898628 >It didn't innovate jack shit. It was the only 3D game at that time where you get to play as an Italian plumber dressed in a red shirt and blue overalls.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 01:40:16 2016 No.2898664 >>2898628 Stop trolling, 3D games were complete dogshit until Super Mario 64

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 01:44:28 2016 No.2898669 >>2898664 Quake you dumb faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 01:58:55 2016 No.2898687 >>2898628 It was the first 3D game with a full 360 degree user controllable camera.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:18:53 2016 No.2898809 >>2898687 No it was not, you stupid fucking Nintendork.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:24:10 2016 No.2898817 >>2898687 No it was not, you stupid fucking Nintendork.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:24:28 2016 No.2898818 >>2898809 Alright, why don't you name an earlier game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:25:40 2016 No.2898819 >>2898818 Elite 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:25:42 2016 No.2898820 >>2898817 Alright, why don't you name an earlier game?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:34:54 2016 No.2898832 >>2897664 Chrono Nigger and Cross.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:37:40 2016 No.2898836 >>2898819 The game is virtually unplayable when you toggle the external view on. It only existed for making screenshots. Try again.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 04:52:07 2016 No.2898903
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>>2897664
>>2897664
Only disgusting filthy ugly worthless homosexual faggots plaed Metal Cuckgear.

Its almost as I can smell the rotten sweat of the homosexual cocksuckers who played this game.

Then again I always distanced myself from self-proclaimed geeks. It wouldnt be a hesitant moment if there was a button to brutally exterminate all those who favored MetalcuckGear Soliddildo as their main game.

Fredrik Mohlund stand as one of these sweatstains with gross blemishes on his back, I regret the day we hit the beach to swim, chill and talk with the girls and you made the women withdraw with your disgusting body, face and manner.

And to those who enjoy making cover-songs on video game music, know that your virginity will stay long, and eventually you will delusionally boast about your achievement of having a wife, being "mature", unknowingly settling down to a former cumguzzling whore with rotten ovaries that will produce children on the autistic-spectrum, but knowing your inferior betacuck nature, you will surely defend the low bottom blemished whore with cuckpride.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 07:29:20 2016 No.2899062 >>2897664 MGS, Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Castlevania, Diablo 2, Half Life 2, Street Fighter

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 08:07:02 2016 No.2899087 CAVE shooters, Toaplan shooters, Compile games, Falcom games, X-Com, Baldur's Gate, Planescape Torment, Phantasy Star, Artdink shovelware, and probably the one game that's overrated both in and out of /vr/: Crash Bandicoot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 09:25:32 2016 No.2899187 >>2897987 >>2897848 >I never played MGS The gameplay is awesome. The series would not have survived this long if the gameplay was shit. See every other game with good story but shit gameplay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 09:50:53 2016 No.2899207 Well, since this thread seems to be here to stay: Mega Man 2

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 10:12:38 2016 No.2899232 >>2899187 If Planescape: Torment can get critical acclaim for shit gameplay, then so can MGS.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 10:20:55 2016 No.2899242

>>2899232
PT is an RPG which puts it in a different class of people accepting bad gameplay.

Metal Gear Solid's story and goofy cutscenes are are all good fun, but it's the stealth exploration and action that is the real reason for why it's popular. It's just that there's not as much to talk about in that sense other than how fun it is to sneak up and snap necks. So often they just talk about story stuff and muktuk eating contests.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 12:09:51 2016 No.2899378 >>2899207 More like the entire Megaman series. No time limits, infinitely spawning powerups. Farm your way to victory.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 14:02:04 2016 No.2899573 >>2897848 MGS barely has any gameplay. The map consist literally of less than 15 rooms, and after first 2 hours majority of gameplay is spent in Boss battles that take away the whole sneaking element.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 14:14:45 2016 No.2899593 Fantastic, the story is huge !!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 14:42:08 2016 No.2899641 >>2898836 That's beside the point, you asked for a game before SM64 with a camera that you can zoom and pan 360-degrees and Elite games have them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 15:56:54 2016 No.2899797 File: 1.89 MB, 180x135, idi-amin-laughing.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2898903

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 15:58:58 2016 No.2899805 >>2897848 Nobody mentioned the game's god tier atmosphere?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 16:14:28 2016 No.2899839 File: 436 KB, 320x240, giphy.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2898903 >MetalcuckGear Soliddildo

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 16:16:14 2016 No.2899842 >>2899797 >>2899839 Stop replying to your own unfunny post you idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 16:20:17 2016 No.2899856 >>2899842 The original post isn't mine; only the second reply is. Nice try, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 14:55:06 2016 No.2901546 Street Fighter 2. It didn't innovate jack shit. There were plenty of other brawler games at the time and before it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 15:02:51 2016 No.2901560 >>2897878 We didn't used to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 17:08:21 2016 No.2901849 >>2898820 Not that anon but I think Fade 2 Black for PC.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 17:16:52 2016 No.2901861 >>2901546 >It didn't innovate jack shit. It invented the concept of combos in fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 17:30:19 2016 No.2901886 >>2897848 MGS1 is the best MGS by far

Anonymous Thu Jan 7 17:34:02 2016 No.2901893

>>2901546

Yeah, we had dozen of 1x1 fighters before SF2 and 100% of them had critical problems with colision detection, clunky controls or both. That's why the game is so praised 30 years after its release and you don't see almost anyone talking about earlier titles in a serious tone ("heh, do you remember Pit Fighter? We played it so much but the game was shit xD), it was the first one who did things right and wasn't a lucky contest where if you had luck you could connect the attacks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 18:31:49 2016 No.2901991 >>2901886 MGS3: Subsistence and MG2: Solid Snake are much better, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 03:17:31 2016 No.2902640 File: 45 KB, 256x255, Final_Fantasy_VII_Box_Art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 03:23:57 2016 No.2902649 >>2897848 you have CLEARLY never played MGS, if you are calling it a movie game. maybe play some of these games, before swallowing someone else's opinion?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 03:35:22 2016 No.2902654 >>2902649 any game that has more watching than playing like MGS is literally a moviegame

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 08:13:30 2016 No.2902865

>>2898628

I agree.

> Tomb Raider
> Quake
> Crash Bandicoot

Tomb Raider and Quake have more in common with how 3D gameplay turned out it in the long run.

Also, as a added bonus, just recently Nintendo started making Mario games that play like Crash Bandicoot did back then, so Mario 64's gameplay legacy is just fading now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 09:48:49 2016 No.2902925 >>2901991 I feel like MGS2: Substance has the best gameplay in the series >>2902654 So what? Does that make the game automatically bad? Why don't you just skip the cutscenes if they bother you so much

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 10:35:57 2016 No.2902950 >>2902865 I want to rewrite history too and say that Crash is the single most important game in video game's history. Everything from Doom to Bayonetta were factually inspired by Naughty Dog's masterpiece.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 11:09:20 2016 No.2902983

Kingdom Hearts

I don't care what your opinion is. As a born gamer and a fan of both Square soft (at the time) and Disney, I can rightfully say these two things should have never been combined. This is literally a game about the shift from kids to teenagers; the happy, bright lad gets his taste for the edgy life and just wants more.

Throw in the typical "cool" kid with straight hair and calm "I don't care" attitude that main young lad must aspire to be should he want to be accepted in highschool.

Woah, flipside! Everyone thinks they're special snowflakes! Throw in everybody's "heartless" (get the pun?), and the organization 13 (what a choice for a number, let's go with the most generic bad number possible) and dress everyone like GOTH KIDS.

PEOPLE LIKING THIS GAME IS WHY EMO/ SCENE/ HIPSTER FAGGOTS BECOME A "THING".

/endrage

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 11:17:22 2016 No.2902987 >>2902983 is it a fun game tho?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 11:26:00 2016 No.2902995 >>2902983 My opinion is KH isn't retro

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 11:36:49 2016 No.2903005

>>2902987
The only thing I give it is the mix between hack-n-slash and RPG, which took off. They were smart for doing so, and playing to a specific genre of people, but it was TOO played. Of course throwing in Cloud and Sephiroth with new designs and WINGS, OOHH! The only thing that could've made this game any more bait would have super forms, or some sort of transformation into a stronger buff of all stats and nigh invulner- what? They did?

Fuck this series. I can't enjoy the gameplay if you're trying to fuck everything I like for money.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 11:39:32 2016 No.2903007 >>2903005 I just bought a few games a while ago, but haven't played them yet. I really should go dig them out

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:27:18 2016 No.2903330 >0s and 1s >aging

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:41:39 2016 No.2903360 >>2903330 >technology >not improving over the years

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:44:28 2016 No.2903370 >>2903360 >improvement/change means that 0s and 1s age

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:52:24 2016 No.2903389

>>2903370
There are some weird instances of people being willfully dense in these threads. I don't know how you people function in the real world if you take everything as a literal, face value definition.

I don't know if you people are native English speakers or what. If you are a native speaker, you know not to take everything at face value. Or do you think that "Raining cats and dogs" literally means cats and dogs are falling out of the sky?

I'm not going to respond to these posts any longer, and neither should any of you. You're speaking to people who are, as previously stated, being willfully dense at worst and at best, people who are simple minded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:52:28 2016 No.2903390 >>2902983 >>2902987 The original Kingdom Hearts is the only legitimately good game in the series. Final Mix + is good too but it's basically a turd covered in sprinkles. Now stop talking about non-retro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:55:44 2016 No.2903394 >>2903330 >>2903370 >autism speaks

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:56:15 2016 No.2903397 >>2903390 >WELL UMMM UMMM I'm going to make this flame-baiting opinion and then I'm going to say "Let's not have this conversation"

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 15:59:10 2016 No.2903407 >>2903390 Birth by Sleep is better than the first KH, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 16:03:37 2016 No.2903417 >>2903389 Your post has aged.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 16:05:27 2016 No.2903420 >>2903397 >flame-baiting It's really not my problem or my fault if you wanna reply to me. >>2903407 Never played it, should have made that clear.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 16:44:50 2016 No.2903506 >>2903394 Wow, that post is really original. Calling people autists? That's new to me, haven't seen that one before. Upvoated and added to favorites to check again later in case I forget.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 13:32:48 2016 No.2905310 >>2902950 How do you explain why Nintendo just stopped following the old 3D Mario formula, and switched to the style of its biggest competitor at that time?

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 13:36:02 2016 No.2905318
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>>2905310

The new 3D Mario games aren't narrow corridors coupled with some side-scrolling segments. If anything, something like Sonic Colors would be closer to that.

The new 3D Mario games are closer to the bowser stages on SM64.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 13:39:38 2016 No.2905324 >>2905318 Damn I miss the style of 64 and Sunshine

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:09:17 2016 No.2905384 >>2905318 SM64 should've all been Bowser-style stages. They had the best platforming in the entire game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:16:53 2016 No.2905414 I still like the old c64 games with bad graphics. Wrong person to ask. Maybe moon rover? wow I hate it with a passion. no offence if you liked it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:18:20 2016 No.2905416 >>2905414 pong. cool as anything back when. Couldn't play anybody to play it today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:26:28 2016 No.2905434 >aged badly People who say this shouldn't be allowed on /vr/ teebeeaych

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:29:08 2016 No.2905440
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At its face value it looks like a game, but it's not. This is actually an overly-complicated weapon crafting system disguised as a dungeon crawler. And if you try to treat it like... any other game ever and want to rely on dropped loot rather than devote hours to that crafting system, then you get punished SO damn hard for it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:37:11 2016 No.2905448 >>2905384 >SM64 should've all been Bowser-style stages. No.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:40:31 2016 No.2905456
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SOTN is kind of casual, isn't it? You can just grind levels if the game is too hard for you, and there's multiple ways to break the game. With the older games, your only choice was to git gud.

I love the game, but that's because I am a filthy casual.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 14:57:52 2016 No.2905484 >>2905434 This. It's either a good game or it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:01:05 2016 No.2905491 >>2905456 That's not what casual means, you fucking moron.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:02:22 2016 No.2905495

>>2905456
SotN is more like a sandbox game than a traditional action game. It's never really hard, even on the 'hard' mode. The fun comes from playing with all the crazy equipment and abilities you can find. Going through killing everything with masses of summoned skeletons and bats is pretty rad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:17:10 2016 No.2905514 >>2905456 The Castlevania series was already casual by the time it transitioned to the 16-bit platforms.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:38:33 2016 No.2905540 How has this guy not gotten banned yet? Is he evading by using proxies?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:02:25 2016 No.2905591 >>2905448 You're the reason 3D Mario is cancer. If you want "muh exploration", go play Zelda or Metroid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:05:28 2016 No.2905595 >>2905540 >he doesn't like my favorite game that's popular >WAHH MODS BAN HIM HE HURT MY FEELS

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:07:50 2016 No.2905604 >>2905595 Everyone's entitled to their own opinions, but that doesn't mean they can regurgitate the same thread over and over with the obvious goal to start trouble.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:10:36 2016 No.2905608 >>2905604 I don't think he's intentionally wanting to start trouble,I think it seems that way because he keeps using the same image every time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:11:11 2016 No.2905610 >>2905604 >they can regurgitate the same thread over and over Go complain to the GCCXfags and Doomfags too then. Oh wait, you won't because they don't hurt your feelings.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:18:57 2016 No.2905628 >>2905591 >Mario 64 is cancer Toppest of keks. Shouldn't you be happy with 3D World? After that and 3D Land, maybe that's the permanent direction Nintendo will take for the series.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:19:44 2016 No.2905630
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>>2905591
>You're the reason 3D Mario is cancer.
It much less of it being "cancer" and more you just disliking its own approach to platforming (which is understandable despite me not minding it) but sure, whatever you say bucko.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:21:23 2016 No.2905636 >>2905610 Those threads bring great, friendly discussion, even when disagreements occur. These threads do not.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:21:59 2016 No.2905638 >>2905595 >>2905610 >WAHH MODS BAN HIM HE HURT MY FEELS >Oh wait, you won't because they don't hurt your feelings. Since you're incapable of conversing like an adult, I'll just end it here. Thanks for playing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:31:31 2016 No.2905657 >>2905638 Good riddance. Next time don't whine when you disagree with something, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:35:18 2016 No.2905667 >>2905636 No, they're some of the worst threads on /vr/, and don't even really belong here (doom threads should go to /vg/ and GCCX should go to /tv/ or /jp/).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 23:03:53 2016 No.2906360 >>2905456 >deep hole on floor >put chair over ir >chair legs barely at the border at all >sit on chair >why?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 23:09:38 2016 No.2906380 File: 35 KB, 468x248, st-petersburg-roof-jump.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2906360 Some people like to live on the edge of danger to get their kicks.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 23:39:41 2016 No.2906429
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The only bad thing in MGS1 in my opinion is that there are only like 25 enemies you encounter in the whole game. Levels could also be larger or in bigger quantities but that would probably cause more repetition. Also, I love that each MGS location is unique and has its own assets.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 10 01:57:50 2016 No.2906624 >>2898903 >>"I'm trying!'

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 10 06:37:42 2016 No.2906896 >>2905324 To me, 64 seemed a little confused with with its artstyle, especially compared to Quake, Crash and Tomb Raider. It all seems so inconsistent. Some of the UV mapping in that picture is pretty bad too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 10 06:40:34 2016 No.2906898 >>2906360 that's a toilet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 10 07:03:55 2016 No.2906909 >>2897664 >starts by posting the best MGS I don't come here often and I see now why

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