Richter was totally in the wrong here. Dracula is just sitting in his home minding his own business when some cunt suddenly comes barging in and tells him he's a monster who shouldn't even be allowed to live.

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Anonymous Fri Jan 1 02:22:29 2016 No.2887982 [Reply] [Original]

Richter was totally in the wrong here. Dracula is just sitting in his home minding his own business when some cunt suddenly comes barging in and tells him he's a monster who shouldn't even be allowed to live.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 02:45:36 2016 No.2888003 Dracula was a good boy. He was just trying to enjoy his watermelon iced tea.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 02:51:06 2016 No.2888006 I wonder if Dracula was still around what he'd think of the world today. He seemed like a pretty well-read man.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:10:33 2016 No.2888023 Not only that, he didn't even come due to his own accord but someone else summoned him.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:21:11 2016 No.2888042

I do realize this is a pointless question because the Castlevania stories become increasingly stupid with each new installment, but what IS so bad about Dracula/Castlevania being revived? The first games seem to imply he'll just terrorize the local towns, 64 had an antichrist analogy and by Aria of Sorrow they were acting as if Dracula is gonna unleash some sort of apocalypse. It's just one vampire, what's the big deal.

>>2888003
The original dindu nuffin, he a good count, he's been going to the chapel every week about to get his undead life back on track, his chapel need mo gold for dem programs.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:25:48 2016 No.2888046

>>2888042
>It's just one vampire, what's the big deal.

It's THE vampire. The most powerful one in existence since he possesses that orb from LoI. The guy is the boss of Death himself.

All that said he never does really seem to do much but sit in the castle and get married every once in a while. Guy just wants to be left alone with his waifu.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:32:08 2016 No.2888051

>>2888006
Well, Stoker Dracula is literally a soulless monster that doesn't care about anything past what he can manipulate to keep himself alive. So it's not like he'd think much of it on a conscious level- it's the same shit, different details for him.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:34:35 2016 No.2888052

>>2888042
In 3 he was the driving force behind a veil of evil that was taking over Europe. He's a manifestation of evil in physical form, no, he's not just some dude living his immortal life, he's a literal monster, that if left unchecked WILL fuck up the earth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:48:46 2016 No.2888067 File: 212 KB, 500x376, 1447972349677.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2887982 I mean, it wasn't even by his hand that he once again was given flesh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:52:51 2016 No.2888069 >>2888052 Come on Belmont I know you and Drac had some bad blood in the past but he's clearly just trying to live his own life now. Why you gotta keep starting shit with him?

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:55:27 2016 No.2888072

OP the burden of proof is on you to prove Dracula isn't a catalyst to destroy the world as Humanity knows it.

Does a piece of fiction exist in where Dracula isn't actively fucking earth up?

OP is dangerously close to Griffith Apologist levels of faggotry.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 03:57:43 2016 No.2888075

>>2888072
>OP the burden of proof is on you to prove Dracula isn't a catalyst to destroy the world as Humanity knows it.

No it's on Richter because he's the one who started making these accusations. Dracula was clearly just enjoying some wine in his house before this all went down.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:04:14 2016 No.2888085
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>be a good man when you were alive
>bunch of assholes kill your wife for no reason
>let your hate consume you and become the embodiment of chaos
>now his only goal in life is to eradicate all of humanity from the world

Frankly, I can empathize with the guy. Humans are pretty shit tier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:21:31 2016 No.2888101 File: 419 KB, 500x416, 1423772318604.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ITT: "How old is 13 really?" type of backwards ass memeshit I'm glad there are people like Richter that put an end to these sort of things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:34:32 2016 No.2888117 >>2888101 And he is an idiot for falling into a trap. What happened to him once he defeated Dracula?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:35:57 2016 No.2888120 File: 50 KB, 580x320, youareminenow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2888117 He went home and fucked his new loli waifu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:42:23 2016 No.2888128 >>2888120 No he went to the dungeon and got shafted by Shaft.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:46:40 2016 No.2888130 >>2888128 Shaft was dead though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:47:59 2016 No.2888132 >>2888130 Then who the fuck did I free and also kill in Symphony of the Night? IT WAS ALL AN ILLUSION MADE BY SHAFT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:50:28 2016 No.2888135 >>2888132 Is it ever explained why Shaft regained a body in SotN after turning into a phantom in Rondo?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:52:36 2016 No.2888141 >>2888130 Death in Castlevania is almost as meaningless in DBZ. In fact it literally takes orders from someone else because it's such a pussy ass bitch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 04:53:03 2016 No.2888142 >>2888135 Not that I know of.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 05:19:27 2016 No.2888174 All these Belmont shills crowding up a perfect Count thread...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 05:59:56 2016 No.2888206 Dracula did nothing wrong!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 06:21:39 2016 No.2888221 >>2888042 The areas around Dracula's castle aren't always filled with evil demons. They exist because he and his castle exist. If he is allowed to live this will spread all over Europe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 06:23:33 2016 No.2888226 >>2888135 He just did. He's a powerful enough necromancer that I can roll with it. >>2888117 He went home. Then a few years later Shaft Shafted him.

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 10:37:24 2016 No.2888473

>>2888085
>>bunch of assholes kill your wife for no reason

TWICE, even! I feel bad for the guy. He managed to fall in love with a human woman after becoming Dracula, they had a child together, and then these asshole villagers capture and burn his wife at the stake. What did you think was going to happen?

Those idiots brought it on themselves.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 11:27:39 2016 No.2888539 >>2888052 There is no such thing as evil, anon, just a difference in viewpoints. Final Fantasy 8 taught me that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 11:45:30 2016 No.2888563 >>2888051 Didn't Konami try to retcon Stoker's Dracula into Castlevania's Dracula through Bloodlines? If Bloodlines is indeed a sequel to Stoker's book then the same would hold for Castlevania's Dracula.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 13:01:40 2016 No.2888690 >>2888128 Shut yo mouth

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 14:21:47 2016 No.2888787

>>2888563
Yeah, but it doesn't matter, unless Stoker himself said okay to it then it's just some Konami fanfiction. The character histories are way too different to say it's conclusively the same guy and so are their powers. I don't know why they ever thought it was clever trying to connect the stories. It's like trying to jam a square peg in a round hole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 14:51:24 2016 No.2888832 File: 72 KB, 687x582, castlevania_dracula_x_chronicles_conceptart_dZl8B[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dracula had kidnapped and imprisoned five women including Richter's wife.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 15:02:46 2016 No.2888852 >>2887982 Are you sure he wasn't drinking Richter's mother's blood from that glass? I'm sure Dracula was at least high as a kite.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 15:37:30 2016 No.2888926 >>2888832 So? In those days it wasn't a crime. Kidnapping qt pie maidens is part of vampire culture. Richter was really intolerant and couldn't handle the bantz.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 15:40:01 2016 No.2888930 >>2888072 >OP the burden of proof is on you to prove Dracula isn't a catalyst to destroy the world as Humanity knows it. Haha, that's not how burden of proof works

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 15:55:59 2016 No.2888952
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>>2888128
>and got shafted by Shaft.

SHAFT!

Who's the slim kidnapper dick

That's a death machine to all the chicks?

(SHAFT!)

You're damn right

Who is the man

That would risk his neck for his brother Drac?

(SHAFT!)

Can ya whip it?

Who's the cat that won't cop out

When there's Belmont all about

(SHAFT!)

Right on

You see this cat Shaft is a bad mother

(Shut your mouth)

But I'm talkin' about Shaft

(Then we can whip it)

He's a complicated man

But no one understands him but his vampire

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 16:00:08 2016 No.2888964 >>2888852 Blood coagulates quickly once it's exposed to air. Why would Dracula want to drink stale blood from a glass when he could drink it fresh directly from a person through his teeth?

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 16:05:13 2016 No.2888975

>>2887982

Was it murder?

>>2888046
>The guy is the boss of Death himself.

According to Castlevania lore the Death in the games is just one of many entities called Death.

He's not actually our version of the grim reaper. (as seen in family guy for example)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 18:01:45 2016 No.2889163 >>2888975 What happens with Death dies?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 18:09:00 2016 No.2889181 File: 1.39 MB, 320x180, nod.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Mfw Richter's Theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Py5xa_JuVk

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 19:47:45 2016 No.2889343 >>2889163 Death can not die, It's a spirit entity. Well, unless strange aeons happen.

>>	None !4X8vLLNDE2 Fri Jan 1 19:48:58 2016 No.2889347 richar badboy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 19:58:25 2016 No.2889365 >>2889163 What happens when you get killed by death?

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 21:00:42 2016 No.2889476

>>2888042

It kinda depends on Dracula's mood when he resurrects. SOTN's Dracula is probably the most melancholy; he really didn't want to do have anything to do with the events, especially with his son running around reminding him of his dead wife. He's pretty much just going through the motions. Most other times when he's on his game he's out there being the embodiment of evil/chaos while the Belmonts act as a balance. Left unchecked Evil will corrupt and take over the world. I suppose in 1999 you could say Dracula just decided to say fuck it and make an end-run against the World. The point Aria of Sorrow was trying to make is that without him Evil/Chaos had no focus, making it behave in an unpredictable manner and potentially even more dangerous than with Dracula running the show, especially if it decided to pick a real motherfucker to take the job. Alucard is even shown starting to realize that someone is going to have to do it if Soma won't, otherwise the balance is just going to get jacked again. It felt like they were putting out the idea that Alucard might even do so himself in a future installment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 21:02:19 2016 No.2889481 >>2889365 >1008*2 >not knowing that people die when they are killed

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 21:17:24 2016 No.2889509

>>2888042
Each Demon has its own set of powers. Dracula's main power is the power to rule, he even rules over death itself. If all of these monsters were revived without Dracula they'd basically be wild animals and probably do a lot of infighting to be on top. But with Dracula up top he can coordinate them and turn them into a much more dangerous force since they'd all be working together with a set goal in mind. Plus since usually defeating Dracula kills all the minions with him, it's usually a good idea to do that.

Don't just chop off pieces of the beast, go right for the head and end it all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 21:26:25 2016 No.2889530 >>2889476 >chaos >having a focus That's not how chaos works.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 21:28:41 2016 No.2889537 >>2889181 >that awful Snes soundchip

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 21:35:45 2016 No.2889551 >>2888539 > From my perspective, it is the Jedi that are evil

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 22:25:21 2016 No.2889636 >>2889530 I know it isn't how Chaos works but that's the terminology they keep using. >>2889537 You go to hell. It's one of the odd songs that sounds better on the SNES than the Duo, Rebook and all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 22:40:31 2016 No.2889664 >>2888052 Shut up Belmont, your prejudice is showing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 22:43:04 2016 No.2889668 >>2888964 He's kinky like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 23:13:59 2016 No.2889713 File: 20 KB, 649x536, 1439772918640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2889481

Anonymous Fri Jan 1 23:16:21 2016 No.2889719

>>2888085
>let your hate consume you and become the embodiment of chaos
Oh please. Dracula ain't got nothing on existence. Existence is the embodiment of chaos.
Eradicating humans isn't even more chaotic, it's actually less. Humans ourselves introduce order and chaos in varying degrees. We effect life and diversity in such drastic ways, we ourselves are harbingers of chaos. Where we tread, change comes and systems change as the world around us breaks into chaos and orders simultaneously. We break one world to build another. Constantly in flux and in a battle against ourselves and existence.
The most chaotic thing Dracula could do is simply watch us spread as we do what nature has molded us to do, fight it.

To destroy humans and put monsters on the world is to basically revert to a more balanced world that already existed prehuman. There's chaos in both worlds, but only in that world of balanced animalistic chaos does the existence of wreaking havoc on a universal level stop existing, it will blot into nothing and chaos will cease to exist in everything we know but the mechanics of the stars. The very sun will burn out all existence on this planet. If you want to see chaos, let humans fight the fucking sun and attempt the depths of space itself. We will drag life and sentience screaming into eternity for as long as we can withstand the barrage of our fellow humans. Humans are existence itself personified. We are not shit tier, we are not god tier, we are existence tier. We are not worse or better than other creatures, we are merely the current species dragging the heaviest chains of change. If we drop them after the point of no return, everything dies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 23:30:27 2016 No.2889742 >>2889365 Well then he's not gonna put his snake on you, Cause he's a romantic adventure, but a reptile too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 12:07:24 2016 No.2890521 >>2889719 Take it to Xanga.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sat Jan 2 12:45:25 2016 No.2890558 >>2888563 Yeah but Konami!Dracula seems to genuinely care about his wife and son at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 12:47:39 2016 No.2890561 >>2888787 Stoker has been dead for 104 years. Dracula is in the public domain. "Canon" doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 13:00:43 2016 No.2890576 >>2888132 >shaft You daaaaamn right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 13:12:13 2016 No.2890589 File: 763 KB, 1126x844, kekarot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2888952 You glorious motherfucker.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 13:17:10 2016 No.2890595 >>2889163 He gets taken by Super Death

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 13:31:11 2016 No.2890620 I guess someone's been watching this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrze-nKw9zQ

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 15:26:03 2016 No.2890829 >>2889476 I don't think the implication was that Alucard might adopt his father's legacy. Alucard was only suggesting that if the world requires an evil figurehead it will happen eventually--Soma himself doesn't need to do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 13:23:22 2016 No.2893267 >>2889181 >Using the SNES version. Pleb. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ZWY8aAiKg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 00:47:07 2016 No.2894478 >>2890521 Take it to Reddit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 12:01:07 2016 No.2895159 >>2894478 GIT OFF MY LAWN!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 23:29:12 2016 No.2896245 >>2895159 Twelve year old's don't have lawns.

Anonymous Mon Jan 4 23:55:24 2016 No.2896268

>>2888930

You're right, Dracula shouldn't have to prove he isn't trying some shit when literally every point in recorded history has him fucking things up.

Yup. The being known as "The prince of darkness" should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 00:01:00 2016 No.2896275 File: 204 KB, 404x416, 1369195244457.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2888952 I kekd

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 00:04:40 2016 No.2896281 File: 49 KB, 500x375, 1391655181717.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2889476 >tfw we will never get the 1999 Dracula game Meh, they'd probably just ruin it anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 02:34:42 2016 No.2896526 >>2888067 but by humans who who wish to give him tribute

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 02:53:05 2016 No.2896539 What i hate of him is how he saves his money. Stop saving money on candles. That doesn't work, sir Drac.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 03:53:41 2016 No.2896591

>>2896268
>Yup. The being known as "The prince of darkness" should be considered innocent until proven guilty.

Yeah that's exactly how it works. You don't know if he had a change of heart or not and just because he did some heinous stuff in the past which he was appropriately punished for doesn't mean he should be thrown in the slammer everytime the Belmonts who clearly have a bias towards him starts throwing out accusations. For all we know Richter could be taking advantage of Drac's reputation towards the people to get away with cold hearted murder.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 07:59:35 2016 No.2896778 >>2896526 Tribute? he steals men's souls !

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 08:25:33 2016 No.2896801 >>2896591 Is it murder if he doesn't die and will just show up again later?

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 08:29:28 2016 No.2896806

>>2896778
Perhaps the same could be said of all religions.

Did anyone else really fucking hate playing as Soma? He's such a fucking clueless pussy, Alucard gives it to him totally straight and Soma's like "uh wat" then seems to just muddle his way thru the Sorrow games with everyone giving him strong advice and hints.

I liked the gameplay and economy and tactical souls of AoS/DoS, it's technically a better game than SotN in my eyes, but fuck Soma right off.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 02:50:15 2016 No.2898782

>>2896801
No. But it is attempted murder, aggravated assault with a deadly weapon with racial prejudice, battery, hate crime, breaking and entering, massive property damage and probably a slew of other charges as well. Belmont's going away for a long time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:07:12 2016 No.2898801 Didn't this take place as an ending to Rondo? If so, then hell yeah he's in the right.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 03:23:33 2016 No.2898815

>>2898801
It does. But they murdered his wife, which is why Dracula kidnapped the villagers since they sure as fuck weren't going to hold the people responsible for justice and let's not kid ourselves, everyone's partly to blame in a society that allows them to burn kind people as witches - (her last words were to not hate humans and that she loved dracula, sound like an evil witch and a monster to you?). Besides there's a vampire hunting clan.

Imagine if you were black, and people hated you and your wife and thought your wife did voodoo (probably because they were too busy treating eachother like shit and shitting on peasants and creating plague infested ghettos to live in) then she was murdered and her dying words were that she loved you and not to hate whites. But you didn't find out until long after. Would you not hunt down the barbarous villagers with a twisted and broken justice system that murdered a loving innocent person and sent a a colored hunting Klan after you? Would her last words even make it not right to seek justice?

Who was really in the right here?

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 04:05:21 2016 No.2898859

>>2898815
Also, let's not forget that Drac was made by God creating cursed alchemy device that allowed Mathias to defy god himself when God set fourth a known plan to murder his wife with god-created illness. Thus Mathias rightfully left the church and manipulated Leon a follower of God to eschew the way of God to obtain the stone that would make him a Vampire and then give him the opportunity to fight God as well. Leon chose not too and decided to fight Mathias/Dracula whose goal was to stop God, the author of chaos and confusion himself.

So really, Drac's the good guy in this whole series and the Belmont's are acting as an independent contractor to entity verified as being evil incarnate due to his omniscience and omnipotence who chooses to create people so that he can torture them for his own enjoyment as a 'test' which he designed them to pass or fail by his own specifications, God.

Belmont clan, are all assholes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 04:37:01 2016 No.2898880 >>2898782 Belmont: "Officer, I just spilled some water on his ass and he got all bent out of shape."

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 05:09:28 2016 No.2898929 >>2898880 >justifying throwing acid in someones face. Fucking sand-niggers. That's not okay. It doesn't matter if your religion told you it was okay to do to people to 'protect your honor' or otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 12:55:27 2016 No.2899441 >>2898859 Where'd all this come from?

>>	louclarae !gUxA0qf6Nc Wed Jan 6 12:56:03 2016 No.2899443 >>2887982 Yes, I am a girl and yes, I play video games. xD

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 14:43:11 2016 No.2899645 >>2899441 Mathias/Dracula and Leon are from Castlevania: Lament of Innocence on the PS2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 16:01:40 2016 No.2899813 >>2896806 >Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. confirmed edgiest castlevania game

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 16:06:18 2016 No.2899820
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>>2893267

I think the SNES version has an overall better arrangement (those guitar bits in 0:23 and 0:26, hnng) and while it isn't Redbook audio, it still sounds fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 23:18:50 2016 No.2900618 >>2899813 >confirmed edgiest castlevania game Confirmed for twelviest of ages.

Anonymous Wed Jan 6 23:51:50 2016 No.2900674

>>2898815
You don't need to bring race into the question. These kinds of situations have nothing to do with race. Race is just one of many ways people discriminate against each other. It has more do with the nature of people. Look at the Salem Witch trials, the communist lynching of "anti-revolutionaries", and more recently the lynching of a woman in Pakistan for allegedly burning the Koran, for example. What's the underlying feature that they all share?

Anonymous Thu Jan 7 00:53:09 2016 No.2900742

>>2900674
>You don't need to bring race into the question.
>someone who looks very different, who is the closer to being what would be defined as a different race than anyone else on the planet
I would avoid it but the villagers beat me to it, sorry.

Your example is killing off people with threatening ideologies. What ideologies do you ascribe to someone who merely looks different and wasn't doing jack shit to you specifically all up in his castle and who you don't know shit about?

Don't get me wrong, there's definitely a difference of ideologies at play and Drac is the one who knows of both his and others. But that's asymmetrical. Most of the villagers don't sit around sipping chardonnay with death and shooting the shit after a long days work being all
"Hey you know how I'm the shadowy master of chaos chilling up here, what's all the villagers like so far?"
"Eh, they're all ignorant God praying assholes who say they didn't do anything wrong, mostly the same as the last few centuries still."
"Well, at least I'm all up here in my castle now that this whole attack on god thing didn't work out. So they shouldn't bother me at all, they've only ever seen me a few times on romantic walks with dat hot piece ass I picked up, can you believe she turned like all eleven this year, almost twice the legal age now. She even dresses with the latest fashions you could hardly tell she was born in the 1460s."
"...ugh... kill me already"
"hahahahah, what do I look like one of those Belmont assholes who go about trying to destroy a force of nature required for life to even exist on this planet just to murder someone doing good? You crack me up old friend."
"At least I got you laughing to death"
"..."
"What you got skeletons to bounce around in the basement all day but you can't even bring one up for a proper rimshot. God, I hope the villagers murder your wife."
"Wow, supes innappropriate asshole."
"Eat me. Besides she's gonna die of illness in like three years anyway."
"..."

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 16:12:46 2016 No.2901752 >>2888101 >"How old is 13 really?" If there's grass on the field let her play with your balls.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 16:36:27 2016 No.2901805 >>2887982 >kidnap women and suck out their souls >a belmont comes and slaps your shit >resurrect a few hundered years later and make a thread on /vr/ about how you dindu nothing and the belmonts are racist

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 16:56:38 2016 No.2901829 >>2888135 Wasn't he still a ghost in SOTN? Alucard can kill regular ghost enemies, so Shaft should be no different.

Anonymous Thu Jan 7 17:14:16 2016 No.2901854

>>2888135
Yes, actually. Shaft's body was destroyed by Rondo and his ghost defeated later on in the same game, and after the dissipation of his ghost, it returned, bound to his crystal ball, as Shaft is immortal like Death and Dracula.

What you fight in SotN is his crystal ball in the Richter fight, and then his ghost (within the crystal ball) right before the Dracula fight. Shaft never regained a body.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 18:08:52 2016 No.2901943 >>2887982 >Steals men's souls and makes them his slave >did nothing wrong pick one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 19:26:21 2016 No.2902109 >>2896806 That's why Julius had to end him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 19:43:44 2016 No.2902125 >>2898859 Lament of Innocence has a godawful story. And your post is stupid.

Anonymous Thu Jan 7 19:45:40 2016 No.2902132

>>2898815
>Would you not hunt down the barbarous villagers with a twisted and broken justice system that murdered a loving innocent person and sent a a colored hunting Klan after you?
Probably not. Because the wrongful death of one person doesn't justify killing a ton of people of varying involvement. Dracula's an egocentric asshole. More news at 11.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 16:10:38 2016 No.2903429

>>2902132
>Because the wrongful death of one person doesn't justify killing a ton of people of varying involvement
No but the wrongful murder of varying very guilty people does. Every single one of those fucks would be charged as co-conspirators of murder. That carries the same penalty as murder itself. Death or Life in Prison.
Drac's being generous with the former.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 16:11:42 2016 No.2903431 >>2902125 All castlevanias have a godawful story. But that's what we're discussing. Also your post is fucking stupid.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 17:00:36 2016 No.2903538

>>2903429
>That carries the same penalty as murder itself.
Not really. It's not as if killing more people is going to help anything. And either way Dracula explicitly wages war on God and mankind as a whole. He's not justified there. Just butthurt over what happened to him. It's why >>2898859 is ultimately irrelevant. Yeah, Dracula had some rough shit happen to him. That doesn't justify being such a manipulative and vengeful cunt. His waifu being executed doesn't justify oppressing the world with evil.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 17:29:28 2016 No.2903590

>>2903538
>Not really.
You mean exactly really.

>California criminal law is somewhat representative of other jurisdictions. A punishable conspiracy exists when at least two people form an agreement to commit a crime, and at least one of them does some act in furtherance to committing the crime. Each person is punishable in the same manner and to the same extent as is provided for the punishment of the crime itself. [2]

Most states have a law like that. So I don't know where the fuck you're getting this not really bullshit from.

>It's not as if killing more people is going to help anything.
Sure as fuck will.

>And either way Dracula explicitly wages war on God
And that was brought up. God has been found guilty himself of massive atrocities and Drac's the only one we know of in the story with the balls to fight against him. He's actually the only one justified in the whole fucking thing, except for death who doesn't need justification for shit since he's beyond justification as the mere personification of a force of nature.

> It's why >>2898859 is ultimately irrelevant.
It's why it's absolutely relevant.

>Yeah, Dracula had some rough shit happen to him. That doesn't justify being such a manipulative and vengeful cunt.
No, having rough shit happen to you is not what makes it justifiable. Having rough shit purposely targeted at you as a preplanned attack. That's the nature of justice.
>His waifu being executed doesn't justify oppressing the world with evil.
No, it doesn't. It justifies kidnapping the girls and fucking up the villagers who did it.
What justifies his "opressing" the world with evil is that the world is already opressed with evil. He's justified in cleansing evil from the world. His chaos and destruction is actually the good in the world. His alignment is chaotic good and the worlds is lawful evil in this case. The majority of the world for the thing prays to a god of death and evil who Drac wants to fuck up. Drac is to CV as Doomguy is to Doom.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 17:45:45 2016 No.2903613

>>2903590
Woops. Didn't copy/paste the entire line. The "not really" was directed toward "Death or life in prison."
>Sure as fuck will.
Yeah, okay. It will bring his wife back to life I guess.
>God has been found guilty himself of massive atrocities
Don't want to get into theology too heavily here, but that's the entire point of faith. God is justified because he is God (in a Miltonic monistic sense God is everything). Dracula becomes too obsessed with mankind's shitty parts and ends up becoming even shittier. Dracula's blasphemous. No more, no less. He's a dangerous aberration in the world.

Elements of Dracula's backstory make him more sympathetic. Not justified, though. Dragging innocent people into his woe-is-me nonsense isn't justice. Even if we pretend that God in the Castlevania-verse is an oppressive evil monstrosity Dracula being another oppressive evil monstrosity doesn't help anything. Trying to save people from God's wrath by imposing a wrath of skeletons and Medusa heads isn't that applaudable.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 18:52:19 2016 No.2903743

>>2903613
>Yeah, okay. It will bring his wife back to life I guess.
>see someone doing incredible harm and wronging people
>do nothing
Good one chummer.

>God is justified because he is God
Doesn't hold water.

>He's a dangerous aberration in the world.
See previous. No. The world is a dangerous aberration to justice and logic. No one's innocent in that world. There's a god, at war with existence and you're either fighting him or you're a casualty.
>Trying to save people from God's wrath
You're mistaken. They are to god as skeletons and medusa are to Drac.
> Dracula being another oppressive evil monstrosity doesn't help anything
It doesn't hurt anything either. You see the problem is, if people and god are good then drac is good because he's a puppet of god just as the people are. He's a puppet fighting back, but you can't consider drac evil because he kills them because he's only doing what the thing the entity he's fighting against made him do, which is what the people pray for him to make him do. That is, they pray for his ultimate mysterious plan and drac is part of that plan. There's no good in this world, it's just evil all the way through because it's designed with the intent and purpose of being a source of pleasure for evil incarnate. The only good things in an existence such as that is end said existence or alter the very essence of that existence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:09:24 2016 No.2903773 >>2903590 edgiest post i've read today

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:16:32 2016 No.2903782 >>2903773 is that good or bad

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:57:16 2016 No.2903853

>>2903743
>Doesn't hold water.
But it does in an absolute sense. That's what makes him God.
>There's a god, at war with existence
God isn't "at war with" existence. Dracula is.
>You're mistaken.
I'm aware that he isn't trying to "save" people (I was making fun of your point), I'm pointing out that he and his crew aren't more justified than God and humanity. Why should anyone side with Dracula's atrocities? Because his human companions got fucked over? How does it follow that he's justified in fucking over the entirety of humanity and reshaping it in his image? It's an egocentric war. That's really it
>if people and god are good then drac is good because he's a puppet of god
Free will etc. The same way Lucifer is free to act in the way he does (as well as Adam and Eve) in Paradise Lost, and the same way Mephistopheles is free to do what he does (and Faust) in Faust.
>There's no good in this world
But there clearly is.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 21:42:35 2016 No.2904051

>>2903853
>But it does in an absolute sense. That's what makes him God.
It's also what makes him wrong. God can control his actions and also the actions of all others, he more than anyone is obligated to that responsibility. His being god doesn't excuse it, it makes it worse.
>God isn't "at war with" existence. Dracula is.
God's entire goal is to spread as much misery and bullshit as possible. Draculas entire goal is stop God from spreading misery and bullshit. How many times does this shit need to be explained to you? Fuck, read.
>Free will etc
Doesn't exist. Can't exist. One, people don't work that way and also god is omnicient. Free will can't exist in the same universe as omnicience. Though Omnipotency also exists which can't exist with omnipotency either, so there's that.
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Problem_of_evil
Here's a good read on that whole why you're wrong thing.
>But there clearly is.
No and definitely not clearly. Since there's no good to be seen and everything is conceptually evil, not really good at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 21:43:50 2016 No.2904052 >>2903782 It's great. It means he gets to celebrate his twelfth birthday today. You should congratulate him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 21:45:22 2016 No.2904057 >>2903782 It's great. It means >>2903773 gets to celebrate his twelfth birthday today. You should congratulate him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:08:07 2016 No.2904212 >it's okay to murder random women and take over europe if your wife was murdered fucking /vr/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:15:50 2016 No.2904223 >>2888101 Where do I go to buy strobe flashing pants/boots/tunics?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:26:28 2016 No.2904236 >>2896281 what would it even be? Julius traveling the world, fighting monsters in several major cities, before storming Castlevania as a god-powers ship dude?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:39:28 2016 No.2904252 >>2904051 >God's entire goal is to spread as much misery and bullshit as possible. Go to bed, Dracula. And you can do better than a tired argument as delivered via Iron Chariots.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 23:51:30 2016 No.2904261 >>2890561 That doesn't matter. Konami can't retcon shit. If you told people that video game retconned one of the most famous pieces of literature in history they would laugh in your face

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:05:56 2016 No.2904274 Circle of the Moon had a good explanation, but it's not canon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:14:28 2016 No.2904290 Was it ever explained why Alucard chose to honor his mother's legacy rather than his father's?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 00:18:41 2016 No.2904294 >>2889163 Something something strange aeons

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 01:02:23 2016 No.2904379 >>2889551 Only a Sith works in absolutes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 01:05:34 2016 No.2904383 >>2904379 I absolutely agree with you. :^)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 05:33:07 2016 No.2904736 >>2904290 His mother wasn't a murderous asshole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 05:39:39 2016 No.2904745 >>2904290 Because Alucard isn't evil.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 05:55:16 2016 No.2904763 >he did nothing wrong meme it's getting old

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:05:45 2016 No.2904773 >>2904763 >arguing for someone's innocence is a meme I bet you were the juror who convinced everyone else that Steven Avery was guilty because he's just memeing around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 06:07:38 2016 No.2904775 >>2889742 RIP Lemon from Motorcar ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 09:24:55 2016 No.2904935 >>2904290 Because when Alucard actually did try working as his dad's minion, he got hit in the face by Trevor's whip repeatedly, and decided he was done with that shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 10:30:19 2016 No.2904995 >>2903590 >Drac is to CV as Doomguy is to Doom. No, Doomguy kills all the demons, Drac brings in all the demons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 13:22:18 2016 No.2905291 >wife dies >decides to go super edgy "I WILL EMBRACE SATAN" because of his anger pretty shit Dracula desu

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:49:00 2016 No.2905559

>>2896281
It'd be business as usual except Dracula dies for real this time. It's amusing to me that people got so hung up on what was (by Igarashi's own admission) just background fluff.

Yeah there's definitely room for a cool story or something but Castlevania's never really had great, involving plots. I'm not opposed to a 1999 game (especially if it was a Classicvania with a decent budget), but we already know what happens.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:53:05 2016 No.2905570

>>2896281
Personally I like the fact there is no game. Only knowing that it's some massive event Julius was involved in with very little details really gave his character a legendary feel that would diminish no matter how well done a game based on it is. There are some stories best left untold and that's one of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 15:59:15 2016 No.2905584 File: 28 KB, 545x396, ss+(2016-01-09+at+08.57.31).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All these Richter fags ITT gtfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbDe6wsLLNA

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 22:59:33 2016 No.2906342 >>2888072 Griffith and Dracula good boys, dindu nuffin. Guts and Belmonts the real thugs, more money for dem programs, sheeeiit.

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