Castlevania Thread

[Anonymous No.2866802]

Which game deserves the title of worst Castlevania game ever: Dracula X on SNES or Bloodlines on Genesis?

>inb4 Simon's Quest AVGN memers
>inb4 Super Castlevania 4 Ego memers
>inb4 Metroid with Swords ("Metroidvania")

[Anonymous No.2866807]

Fuck off, retard.
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.2866818]

>>2866802
Why can't you just make a normal Castlevania thread without being a humongous faggot?

[Anonymous No.2866835]

>>2866802
Probably Bloodlines. Dracula X at least feels like a Castlevania game, design-wise.

[Anonymous No.2866840]

>>2866835
Nice samefag, OP. You know there's an IP counter, right?

[Anonymous No.2866858]

>bloodlines

But that's the best castlevania.

[Anonymous No.2866869]

>>2866840
>being this autistic

[Anonymous No.2866871]

>>2866858
You may want to replay it and see how shitty it is, anon.

[Anonymous No.2866880]

>>2866802
>Bloodlines
>bad
>Bloodlines
>worst Castlevania game ever
>when 64, Castlevania Judgement, and Lament of Innocence exist

Anyway, between X and Bloodlines, probably X since it's a watered down port.

Also this >>2866818

[Anonymous No.2866885]

>>2866880
>hating Lament of Innocence

Hey fuck you. If you're going to bag on 3D Castlevanias, bag on the ACTUAL bad ones like Lords of Shadow.

[Anonymous No.2866893]

>>2866880
You know Bloodlines is bad when its fanbase has to compare spin-offs just to make their shit game look good.

[Anonymous No.2866898]

I'm convinced that every thread about Castlevania, FF4 and emulation is the same troll hard at work.

>samefag unpopular opinions over and over
>shill Retroarch, Retron5 or some other meme software / product
>act like a huge faggot and throw insults at anyone who has a different preference or opinion

This has become the standard for trolling /vr/.

[Anonymous No.2866913]

Simon's Quest was my favorite, mostly for the early RPG mechanics (although I hated the anti-grinding measures) and the barren atmosphere the game had.

A lot of people complain about the lack of enemy diversity in the mansions, but I think it makes sense in context. Dracula was vanquished in CV1, so it seems logical that few of his minions are still wandering around. There were nonetheless many enemies in your path, and they respawned whenever you turned around.

>AVGN

Yeah, no. I hate e-celeb shit being shilled all over 4chan. I've never watched a single broadcast of AVGN and don't plan to.

[Anonymous No.2866916]

Another quality Castlevania thread on /vr/.

[Anonymous No.2866919]

>>2866885

LoS is not as bad as anyone makes it out to be.

>IT'S DERIVATIVE OF GOD OF WAR, IT'S SHIT

There have hardly been any games of that style since God of War that haven't been derivative of it. It changed the genre.

[Anonymous No.2866950]

>>2866802
Dracula X by a long shot. It's slow,clunky, has terrible hitboxes and scratchy sound effects.

[Anonymous No.2866970]

>>2866913


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(A black screen, then the Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest title screen comes up.)

This game sucks. Castlevania 1 and 3 are great classic Nintendo games, but for Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest, the game designers obviously were not thinking straight. At first it seems like a pretty decent game, a little different from the first in the series but, that's okay. Zelda 2 was different from the first, Mario 2 was different, but they were all good.

The first thing that's strikingly different is the fact that you have to go through towns, talk to people and buy stuff. I never really minded that, it makes it a little more like an adventure story and it's kinda like Zelda, so that's okay. But the first problem comes in when it changes from day to night.

Why does this need to happen so often? Like, every five minutes? Why does it take so long? Nobody feels like sitting through this every time. How would you like it if you were playin' a game and then every five minutes I came over, and paused it, then counted ten tedious seconds, and then let you continue play the game?

Now, I mean, why did they think that that would be a good idea and interrupt the game play, did they think it would be more realistic? I mean, in real life I don't have to stop in my tracks when the sun sets and a fuckin' box doesn't pop up in the air. I mean, this is one of the most annoying features in any game ever. What's the point? Yeah, the, I mean, the monsters are stronger at night and the stores are closed, but why's that necessary and why does the game have to stop? It's fuckin' retarded.

[Anonymous No.2866986]

>>2866919
There's being derivative and then there's shameless ripoff - not that either of these things are necessarily bad, but if you ARE going to ape some other source, then for fuck's sakes, do it well.

[Anonymous No.2867010]

Since when is something bad about Bloodlines? I was playing it just a few days ago and was enjoying it as per usual.

[Anonymous No.2867027]

>>2866880
>64

I know you didn't just dis the only game in this series worth replaying which only gets memetically hated because it was eclipsed by Ocarina of Time.

[Anonymous No.2867030]

>>2867010
Bloodlines sucks. It has far too many shitty autoscrolling sections, controls have some input lag, background/sprite art is horrible by 1994 standards, music sounds like tinny farts on the YM2612, and most of the bosses are even easier than Super IV's. Also lol @ only 7 stages for a 16-bit game.

[Anonymous No.2867061]

>>2867030

I think I have finally found it

The worse opinion on /vr/

[Anonymous No.2867146]

What is it about castlevania that makes a good thread on /vr/ impossible? Why does every cv thread devolve into shitflinging within three posts?

[Anonymous No.2867164]

>>2866880


>Dracula X is a watered down port of Rondo meme

Yeah man, it's, liek, tooootally a port!

btw, has australia already posted itt?

[Anonymous No.2867173]

>>2866802
What kind of retard inb4's their own post?

[Anonymous No.2867184]

X > 68k > 3 > 1 > ReBirth > 4 > XX > BR > Adventure > Legends > Bloodlines

CotM > PoR > OoE > SQ > AoS > SotN > DoS > HoD

64 games > PS2 games > LoS games

[Anonymous No.2867185]

>>2867173
You're thinking of /thread'ing your own post, autist.

[Anonymous No.2867261]

>>2867173
A /v/ retard who came to /vr/ after his thread died.

[Anonymous No.2867268]

>>2867184
>HoD that low
>PoR and OoE that high

[Anonymous No.2867397]

>>2867146

go back to reddit if you want to sit in a circle and jerk each other off.

[Anonymous No.2867409]

>>2867268
hod was a disaster

por was saved by its based richter/maria mode

ooe had the best platforming of any igavania

[Anonymous No.2867417]

>>2867397

I think you clicked on the wrong board. This is /vr/, not /v/.

[Anonymous No.2867419]

> a shit Castlevania thread

what a surprise

also, Rondo>Bloodlines>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>IV>>>>>X

[Anonymous No.2867425]

>>2867419
a shit taste post in a castlevania thread

what a surprise

[Anonymous No.2867427]

>>2867425
Fan of slowdown huh? It's not for me personally, must be an acquired taste.

[Anonymous No.2867430]

>>2867427
fuck you it's like slow motion

[Anonymous No.2867454]

>>2867427
rather have slowdown than a shit game like bloodlines

[Anonymous No.2867457]

>>2867184
Adventure over Bloodlines? Are you fucking brain damaged?

[Anonymous No.2867460]

>>2867457
Adventure's not that bad once you patch it.

[Anonymous No.2867463]

>>2867460
It doesn't make it a better game than Bloodlines. Or any other classic style game for that matter.

[Anonymous No.2867512]

>bloodlines
>shit game
>has the best music in the series
>has pretty basic classicvania play with a character that shakes up the whip formula
>has cool as fuck level design
wtf my man

[Anonymous No.2867529]

>>2867512
>Bloodlines
>cool as fuck level design
Into the trash your opinion goes.

[Anonymous No.2867553]

>>2866919
LoS is fucking uninspired garbage, kill yourself retardo.

[Anonymous No.2867557]

>>2867164
>meme
>liek

>btw, has australia already posted itt?
Yeah, you just did.

[Anonymous No.2867564]

>>2867557

It is a meme, Dracula X is not a port of Rondo of Blood.

And Australia absolutely hates Dracula X or anything on the SNES, he wouldn't try to defend the game.
He'd also be having a tantrum about how OP addressed to The New Generation as "Bloodlines" on the "Sega Exodus".

[Anonymous No.2867567]

>>2866802
Castlevania III
/thread

[Anonymous No.2867570]

>>2867419

lol hi australia-kun

>50hz
>removed graphical assets
>see-guh

>the biggest castlevania shitposter complains about a shit Castlevania thread

[Anonymous No.2867572]

>>2867564
I don't hate the SNES (IV is in my top 5 CV games) but DX is a pretty lame game, dude.

A couple of pretty visual levels don't save it's lackluster gameplay and soulless nature compared to Rondo.

[Anonymous No.2867576]

>>2867572

But you are not Australia-kun.

Also I think the gameplay in DX is fine, feel free to explain to me why it's lackluster, and I don't get the "soulless" thing you're talking about, must be a subjective appreciation.

[Anonymous No.2867587]

>>2867576
>feel free to explain to me why it's lackluster
What's the point if you're going to tell me to "gid gut" anyway? DXfag responses to criticism are textbook-tier by now.

>subjective appreciation
The level flow, the hidden features (as if DX had any in the first place lol), and tiny background elements dominate in Rondo. This is hardly subjective as it is clearly, objectively there.

DX in comparison feels like a pretty, soulless shell.

[Anonymous No.2867594]

>>2867587
>What's the point if you're going to tell me to "gid gut" anyway? DXfag responses to criticism are textbook-tier by now.

What? why are you making this assumption? I'm giving you the chance to express yourself so we can engage in an actual debate. I'm not up for shitposting. I'm not from Australia, for one.

>The level flow
As in...? I think the "flow" of the game is fine, feels like Castlevania to me.

>the hidden features (as if DX had any in the first place lol)

Oh but it does. It doesn't have 4 secret levels, but it does have 2. Also you can rescue the 2 maidens and Maria, even though you can't play as her.

>and tiny background elements dominate in Rondo.

What do you mean?

>DX in comparison feels like a pretty, soulless shell.

Ok but you aren't really explaining yourself with proper arguments, and when you try to, you're giving false information, such as DX doesn't have hidden features.

[Anonymous No.2867595]

>>2867570
I'm not Australian. 50hz objectively sucks. IV is still deeply flawed and inferior to Bloodlines and Rondo.

[Anonymous No.2867597]

Every Castlevania is casual-tier compared to motherfucking Haunted Castle.

[Anonymous No.2867601]

>>2867595
>....but thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaats my life!

[Anonymous No.2867603]

I actually don't really understand where a lot of this hate come from. Most of the Castlevania games are great even at their worst compared to other games of their respective genres. I don't even like Castlevania 2 that much, but I can't say that it is in any way unplayable.

In any case, to answer OP's question, I prefer Bloodlines more. I think that if you take into consideration the limitations of the hardware (not a fan of the Genesis's soundchip), the game came out beautifully; the gameplay is fast, the graphics look great, and the character design is inspired. I do think it is a little easier than most of the Castlevanias, but it is an exceptional title.

Dracula X for SNES is probably one of my least favorite titles (even though it does have one of the hardest Dracula fights at the end). I think the real problem is that even though it is a decent title, when you compare it to Dracula X for the PC Engine, all the shortcoming are more apparent, even if it isn't really a port. That, and I absolutely hate how hit invincibility is reduced, so you end up getting hit multiple times by many bosses for one mistake (the bat boss comes to mind).

Either way, the American version of Castlevania 3 is still my favorite. The Japanese one is just too easy.

[Anonymous No.2867604]

>>2867597
Nigga you just have to memorize 15 minutes of gameplay, it's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.2867606]

>>2867603
>I think that if you take into consideration the limitations of the hardware
Bloodlines isn't even scratching the Genesis limitations man, still a fun game tho.

[Anonymous No.2867608]

>>2867595

Bloodlines and Rondo ar also "deepyl flawed" (not really, but since you're being a cunt about IV, I can act like a cunt about Rondo and Bloodlines too)

Rondo:
-short, easy as fuck levels, basically a walk in the park
-most bosses are push overs other than werewolf and death
-easiest Dracula in the history of Castlevania
-item crash mechanic trivializes gameplay
-casual Maria mode completely breaks the game and the castlevania formula

Bloodlines:
-short game, no alternate paths
-auto-scrolling parts
-blue orb trivializes gameplay
-lance user


disclaimer: I don't really think those are flaws, but if you're gonna give me "hurr durr multiwhip makes sub weapons useless, 2 short mode7 sections on IV have slowdowns" then I might as well act like a retard and claim Bloodlines and Rondo are "deeply" flawed.

Just play Castlevania 1 and III and fuck the rest, am I right?

[Anonymous No.2867609]

>>2867608
>Just play Castlevania 1 and III and fuck the rest, am I right?
not a bad rec actually

[Anonymous No.2867612]

>>2867608
Eh, not him, and i think that most Castlevanias are quite easy, but something that is kinda weak in 4 compared to the others are the bosses, all of them are literally spam cross to win with little pattern-learning or strategy. Rondo has some actually interesting battles, for example the Minotaur or Death you can't use the boomerang, you are forced to use the whip and learn their patterns. The Knight boss as well is quite interesting to beat.

That being said, i'm not a shitposter because i like most classicvanias (well except for Simon's Quest, fuck that)

[Anonymous No.2867614]

[Anonymous No.2867621]

>>2867612

>i think that most Castlevanias are quite easy

You've just played them enough, they are not easy games.

>all of them are literally spam cross to win with little pattern-learning or strategy

Well, if you manage to get to the boss with the mark 3 Cross then you're doing well, but most people who bash IV actually seem to think sub-weapons are useless anyway.
And yeah I forgot about Minotaur, that one was a nice battle too, but still too easy. It's still cool when he charges at you and you have to backflip to avoid him (or just double jump with Maria).
I think the Knight was quite easy, especially if you have holy water.
IV also has some interesting battles like the dancing ghost couple or Slogra, but bosses in Castlevania became less challenging on 16 bit.
Well, except in Dracula X, it has some nice challenging bosses (Necromancer is a pretty cool boss fight).

I also like most classicvanias, I love Rondo and Bloodlines.

[Anonymous No.2867627]

>>2867621
Probably not easy but just average in terms of difficulty, the only ones i would call difficult are CV3 and x68k

And yeah, bosses in Rondo weren't hard, but i felt a bit more satisfaction about beating them for whatever reason. And yeah Slogra was cool, although the ghosts are a bit forgettable imo.

I don't remember much from the bosses of Dracula X, except for Dracula which was a slog, what a boring-ass fight, way too long and with little variety. I think my favorite Dracula fight in 16-bits was either CV4 or x68k

[Anonymous No.2867631]

>>2867627

The dancing ghosts are a nice boss fight mainly because it's centered around avoiding them more than fighting them. You have to jump around the small platforms around, and you can't stop moving since they're always coming after you, except when they stop to attack with either the sword or the lances, and that's when you get the chance to attack them.
Granted you can just whip them silly and hope you don't die before they do, but it's more fun to try to not get hit at all. I also like how unique the enemy is.

And yeah Dracula on DX is mostly an endurance test.
I really liked Dracula on the Rondo remake on PSP, they gave him a new final form that actually is fun to fight.

[Anonymous No.2867656]

>>2867614
Nice bait. The problem with your graph is it doesn't show all the level-design obstacles in the Classicvania side, while a typical Metroidvania is just flat hallways with maybe a few enemies copypasted around.

[Anonymous No.2867659]

>>2867612
the only good thing about Rondo is the bosses and enemies having multiple attack patterns

also why the fuck isn't there a Boss Rush mode?

[Anonymous No.2867661]

>>2867659

PSP remake has a boss rush mode

[Anonymous No.2867662]

>>2867659
>also why the fuck isn't there a Boss Rush mode?
the psp port/remake features it

[Anonymous No.2867668]

>>2867662

Only the remake, the port of the original Rondo doesn't, sadly.

You can also play the boss rush co-op with a friend through ad-hoc, but I could never try that.

[Anonymous No.2867670]

>>2867614
Are you judging the quality of level design by how much you'll have to run back and forth like an idiot?

[Anonymous No.2868186]

>>2867567
>Castlevania III
>worst
What

[Anonymous No.2868192]

>>2868186

Castlevania threads are filled with pretentious bastards claiming this or that Castlevania is trash, why does this surprise you?

True, III is somewhat of a sacred cow because of being hard and not many people have actually beaten it, plus no e-celeb has commented much on it other than "it's great and has multiple paths", but /vr/ shitposters will find a way, they always do.

[Anonymous No.2868201]

>>2868192
I don't mind it being his opinion. It's just not an opinion I've ever seen before. But yes, you're right.

Castlevania threads are always awful here.

[Anonymous No.2868479]

>>2868186
Taking 5 seconds to switch between your partner is objectively shit.

[Anonymous No.2868614]

>>2868479
That I can agree with, but you don't really need to switch between partners that often anyway. Or even, really, at all. I usually just play the whole thing as Trevor because I don't care for any of the others.

But either way I don't think it makes CVIII the worst. Not when it has so many other things going for it. That's a minor gripe.

[Anonymous No.2868648]

>>2867553
that was edgy, retardo was an especially sick burn

[Anonymous No.2868662]

>>2867572
Nah everyone just pocket wanks to rondo because it japanese and because it's actually an easy game. I prefer X as it felt way more like the original castlevania and 3 but with sexy 16 bit graphics.

[Anonymous No.2868671]

>>2867597
Finally, someone with a brain.