/vr/ - Retro Games

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CRT - Curious Rami Thread Anonymous Mon Dec 14 07:36:25 2015 No.2853901 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread - >>2842270

This thread is for the spirited discussion of CRT displays - Televisions, monitors and projectors used for the playing of retro games!

>Try to keep it /vr/-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+Dreamcast). Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright! (maybe)
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Discussion of video processing and scaling devices is okay, but try to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 07:38:54 2015 No.2853903 File: 3.11 MB, 4100x2580, ryuka stunned.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Old pic, still awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 08:16:53 2015 No.2853939 File: 1.24 MB, 2000x1494, dell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] requesting pc crt pictures

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 08:23:17 2015 No.2853943 File: 2.96 MB, 3456x4608, rs-server-4mb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853939 You got it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 08:25:14 2015 No.2853945 File: 3.27 MB, 4608x3456, battlestation-imac.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853943 Same monitor, different place. Famicom running through a scaler with VGA output for 480p.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 08:27:15 2015 No.2853948 File: 1.84 MB, 2304x3456, case vs crt1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853945 Same monitor, yet another place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 08:53:59 2015 No.2853982 >>2853901 What game is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 09:05:23 2015 No.2853996 >>2853901 oh goddamnit, now I want to play Keio Flying Squadron again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 09:10:09 2015 No.2854005 File: 613 KB, 1500x1308, imac_three_quarter_large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have pic related in my garage, It works. Can they be used as a standalone monitor? (for my dreamcast)

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 09:18:24 2015 No.2854023

>>2854005
Sadly, no, it cannot.

Technically, if you were able to design a controller board for the tube and remove the entire computer from it, sure. But that's a lot of work and I can't claim to know how to do it.

I sympathize, though. I'll take that mac off you if you don't want it and you're nearby :)

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 09:33:35 2015 No.2854053
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>>2854023
I'm one of two Irish anons on the whole of /vr/

anyways I looked it up and you can actually do it by taking a cable away that goes from the motherboard to the vga port , but my model just had the vga port directly attached to the mobo

would've been a really cool monitor for my dreamcast

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 10:18:36 2015 No.2854138 >>2854053 Damn. I'm on the wrong side of the pond (and I don't mean I'm in England when I say that). Good luck to you, though! And you can at least play some games like quake if you make that boot linux.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 10:43:20 2015 No.2854184 If I have two flatscreens plugged into my graphics card and plug in a 3rd to my motherboard, will that even work?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 10:44:21 2015 No.2854187 >>2854184 The 3rd being a crt monitor for some good ass retro gaming, I mean

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 11:22:05 2015 No.2854254 >>2854184 Usually a graphics card disables onboard. So no. Just unplug one of your fucking LCD's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 12:05:51 2015 No.2854349 File: 3.51 MB, 3943x2765, IMG_0492.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whats your current crt station like /vr/? Got mine on a little table on the side of my futon.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 12:20:11 2015 No.2854365

>>2854358
>Blur is roughly constant per unit screen area. Bigger pixels means less blur per pixel. Smaller pixels mean more blur per pixel. Line doubling means pixels 4 times as big as the smallest pixels the display is designed for, so of course they will be sharp. Which is what mode 13h games looked like.

What do you guys make of this post? The argument here is: how line doubling in 13h DOS games using a VGA monitor prevented dithering from being blurred into a solid tint.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 13:05:40 2015 No.2854413
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kv2501 profeel anon from the last thread. Went through the manual I got with it and turns out its a 27", same as the 27ps1 in the uk. Also found this pic from an old vr crt thread. Makes me want to get it working even more

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 13:20:03 2015 No.2854420 >>2854413 DAT TATE THO SENPAI

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 14:07:34 2015 No.2854450 >>2853895 Well, if I didn't have the SCART lead given to me, or lived in Europe then I wouldn't bother with it. You're right though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 14:19:07 2015 No.2854473 File: 2.25 MB, 4608x3456, roompic-new-brightened.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2854349 14L5? Meet 20L5.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 14:35:16 2015 No.2854502 >>2854473 God, you're still an obnoxious cunt, just go away.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 14:39:36 2015 No.2854510 >>2854502 >"Oh hey, I have a similar model as yours! Ahoy, 480p brother!" gee, what a cunt.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 14:54:21 2015 No.2854538 >>2854510 not him but it definitely came off as a "one-upper" remark

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:03:21 2015 No.2854560 File: 2.68 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150930_211353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853939

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:15:17 2015 No.2854582 >>2854538 Yeah that's exactly how I read it. Maybe that wasn't his intent, but it certainly sounded that way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:17:25 2015 No.2854584 >>2854582 Well, a 20" screen IS bigger than a 14".

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:18:28 2015 No.2854587 >>2854538 >>2854582 I'm sure it was his intent. Anytime somebody claims their monitor looks good, he comes by to tell them that his 20l5 looks better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:26:26 2015 No.2854603 retard-level question, but how can I get my photos down to a manageable file size? everything I take with my phone camera is too big to post and when I shrink the photo in photoshop it's somehow a bigger file.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:28:16 2015 No.2854608 >>2854603 Save as a jpg, medium or high quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:30:57 2015 No.2854618 >>2853943 what ups is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 15:33:45 2015 No.2854624 >>2854603 save for web

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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:01:55 2015 No.2854684 >>2854473 no cocky attitude taken fellow 31khz brother. I wish i had a 20L5, there were a few in a broadcast store in LA, but I really didnt have the funds or time to drive to LA and then sell one of my 14l5s

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:03:02 2015 No.2854687 >>2854254 Some motherboards let you use both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:11:12 2015 No.2854705 >>2854587 My 20L5 wasn't even fucking turned on. How was I saying it looks better? It's an ugly rack mount tube monitor, not some piece of industrial artwork.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:12:52 2015 No.2854712 >>2854603 In GIMP, turn down the JPEG quality factor when exporting until your file goes below 4MB. For most of my pics, I only have to go down to 93-ish, but for some huge ones, I have had to go into the 70's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:15:10 2015 No.2854717 >>2854618 APC SUA750XL. The battery's died since I took this picture and right now it's just a big brick. This is a very old UPS, btw. Came with a driver disk for windows 2000.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Dec 14 16:16:03 2015 No.2854720
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>>2854712
69 is the lowest I've had to go, but most are fine just lowering into the 80s.

Be sure to tick the "preview" box so it gives you an approximate filesize for the quality level.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:16:40 2015 No.2854721 >>2854473 >turntable Why am I not surprised?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:17:35 2015 No.2854725 >>2854721 I have a couple records that never got published on CD. So I have a turntable so I can digitize those. Fuck you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:18:22 2015 No.2854728 >>2854705 Being dense on purpose? Nobody is talking about how the monitor looks physically.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:19:23 2015 No.2854731 >>2854728 Are you fucking dense on purpose? The monitor isn't turned on in that pic, so I couldn't be claiming the image on the screen looked better. The only thing that might 'look better' in my pic would be the external look.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:23:42 2015 No.2854740 >>2854731 > Anytime somebody claims their monitor looks good, he comes by to tell them that his 20l5 looks better It should be obvious that I was talking about your past in these threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:32:11 2015 No.2854762 >>2854740 Why bitch about it now when I'm not?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:43:09 2015 No.2854790 >>2854762 Because you're still annoying as fuck. The accusation will always be applicable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:56:55 2015 No.2854810 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Olympus-Sony-Trinitron-OEV203-Medical-Color-Video-Monitor-Tests-Endoscope-Vets-/181936760986?hash=item2a5c46a89a:g:fxIAAOSwLzdWTi8o 20" Olympus PVM, they're taking offers and have reasonable shipping. Low ball 'em.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 17:36:34 2015 No.2854869 >>2854790 God, I totally agree. Making a post of any kind is annoying as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 17:50:50 2015 No.2854893 Doesn't surprise me that one of the better resources on the internet for CRT information regarding retro gaming is full of children being bitter about one guy flaunting his PVM. Never change, 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:01:30 2015 No.2854916 >>2854893 >being bitter about one guy flaunting his PVM It wouldn't be a problem if he did this once. But he does this throughout every thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:03:00 2015 No.2854919 >>2854916 Kicking up a fuss exacerbates the issue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:06:14 2015 No.2854929 >>2854473 looks comfy m8, hope you got a good deal on that 20l5!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:07:40 2015 No.2854931 >>2854916 I never understood the big deal with L5's anyway. Unless you are a big retro/crt fan and live in a closet. You could just get a vga monitor and a 15khz monitor, and do 480p all day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:08:58 2015 No.2854938 >>2854931 lines

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:10:46 2015 No.2854940 >>2854938 My 20M4E has the same amount of lines. >>2854931 15kHz > 31kHz. There are no advantages that I can see for having support for 480p/720p/1080i - every console worth playing is 240p.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:13:19 2015 No.2854946
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>>2854938
Are you saying the vga is too sharp? Maybe for you, but even an L2 is too sharp for me. I like scanlines like a nice arcade cab.

Here's my Ikegami. Its a bit sharper than a tv, but not a pvm.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:15:10 2015 No.2854951

is there any significant difference between PVMs and BVMs and are there any other comparable CRTs made by other brands that might not be as well known?

I got a 14 inch PVM but the degaussing coil in it is fucked up beyond all repair, and it got damaged a lot in transit, so I have these cables that are going unused.

intro to Good CRTs pls

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:21:36 2015 No.2854965 >>2854931 built in speaker

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:23:31 2015 No.2854969 >>2854965 oh snap, you're right

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:25:34 2015 No.2854975

>>2854951
Ikegami, Olympus branded trinitrons (pvms), and a bunch of odd balls mostly w out rgb inputs. Go to ebay, and search crt monitor and sort by date listed. You'll see some interesting stuff. Or just buy a tv with scart or component+svid if you don't need a razor sharp image.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:49:30 2015 No.2855064 do most silver 16:9 2000's (vague i know) TV's have component inputs ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 19:02:27 2015 No.2855113 >>2855064 maybe, just keep in mind if they do that doesn't mean they do 480p over component, could be 480i max

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 19:22:05 2015 No.2855176 >>2855064 >16:9 Probably a digital tv. Which means you don't want it anyway.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 20:02:53 2015 No.2855249

>>2854931
As the 20L5 owner everyone's flaming on, I also own a PVM-1944Q which is not 480p but performs just fine for older consoles. I am happy that I have an 'L5, but I would not say that it is a necessity. I didn't even know what PVM I was getting until I arrived at the place I picked it up. It's a nice monitor and I wouldn't trade it because it's awesome, but using a separate VGA monitor is a fine alternative.
>>2854965
The built-in speaker is really quiet and has terrible lows and highs. I have 3 broadcast monitors total and the 'L5's speaker is the worst of the lot. It's not a reason to buy one.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 21:38:11 2015 No.2855370
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>>2854946
Beautiful shadow mask. I too prefer arcade-ish lines, though from far enough away my PVM will give me that.

Pictured: Panasonic BT-H1390YN RGB broadcast monitor. Sorry, I've posted this before.

>>2854929
>hope you got a good deal on that 20L5!
I did. Not going to say how much though because I don't want to cause further shit-fits.

If you can't live not knowing, check out one of the last 3 threads. I've mentioned it in them. Also a couple from august.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 21:48:56 2015 No.2855385 >>2854413 What game is playing on the Profeel, anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 21:50:22 2015 No.2855387 >>2854951 >>2854975 Ikegami for sure, also Panasonic and JVC - they all made medical, presentation and broadcast sets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 21:56:57 2015 No.2855396 >geometry on my wega needs to be fixed >never fucked with the insides of CRT before Any tips before I accidentally kill myself?

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:03:35 2015 No.2855406
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>>2855370
>>2854946
Despite the beauty of the shadow mask itself, I can tell you're using either NESRGB with a horrible palette setting, or a playchoice-10 PPU. That palette is really, really bad if you're going for authenticity. For comparison, here's native composite video.

>>2855396
Yeah, stay away from the rubber cup on the picture tube and the flyback transformer on the PCB below that the wire runs to. Reach around it, not over it.

Don't hold something metal with your free hand while poking inside the set or you're grounding yourself and electricity could go in one arm, through your heart, and out the other.

(I successfully fixed convergence on my set, btw. Wasn't that hard - just be careful.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:06:23 2015 No.2855413 >>2855385 No idea. Just to clarify that pic is not mine but hopefully the anon see's it again and posts some more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:06:59 2015 No.2855414 >>2855406 Oh, p.s., I guess he could be using an emulator too. If so, use Nestopia's canonical palette. It is gorgeous.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:11:58 2015 No.2855419 >>2855414 It probably was something in nestopia. I honestly can't remember because I mess with settings all the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:12:58 2015 No.2855421 >>2855419 on second thought that may be the arcade version on mame

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Mon Dec 14 22:14:37 2015 No.2855425 File: 1.48 MB, 2460x3280, 100_6754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2855385 Google says Dimahoo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:17:47 2015 No.2855428 /crt/ is one of my favorite threads, but it really upsets me with people ask us for help and we'd rather argue about bullshit

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:26:56 2015 No.2855435
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Kya, you still messing around with your RX-100? Did you ever settle on optimal settings for it?

This is the best pic of my CRT I've ever been able to take with mine. Most of my other shots are a lot more mediocre, and I can't seem to replicate what I did to make this one come out this good.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:57:09 2015 No.2855501

>>2854965
My 20M4U has a built in speaker. It's decent, and convenient, but I can't imagine actually using it exclusively, especially when it's so cheap/easy to get an old stereo receiver and a set of nice bookshelf speakers on craigslist or ebay and make it sound 1000 times better. Granted, some people might not have the room for that, or even care about sound, but it seems odd to me to care so much about the graphics to hunt down a PVM, but not give a shit about the sound.

Kya !kDashing02 Mon Dec 14 22:59:19 2015 No.2855507

>>2855435
I leave it in manual mode, and just switch stuff around until it looks decent.
f/stop varies by what I'm doing, ISO is anywhere from |80| to 400 depending on the shot, shutter usually stays at either 30 or 60 with 60 being preferable.
Most stuff is taken with the white balance set to the color temp option set to 9300k.
Videos tend to follow the same, with f/stop being set a bit higher than it would for the equivalent photo, and ISO usually being 400 or 800.

tl;dr: Not really.

>>2855501
There are also people that like to use headphones. Probably a really nice match for 8 and 14'' sets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 23:08:55 2015 No.2855524 >>2855501 appreciation of sound quality is a definitely a much more acquired thing than appreciation of visual fidelity

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 23:15:34 2015 No.2855542
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>>2855524
I could appreciate nice treble from a relatively young age but it took a REALLY nice stereo at a friend's house to make me start noticing.

One of my speakers pictured Sorry 'bout the flash but I don't feel like taking a better picture at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 23:16:53 2015 No.2855545 >>2855542 (and yeah, that cracked foam hasn't made a difference in the sound like it did on the bass. I repaired speakers for a living for a while, I'm keeping the mids this way)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 23:25:48 2015 No.2855554 File: 137 KB, 1408x792, 4a1b2d08-c92b-42a6-a911-0f2eced3cf5a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2854705 OK, sorry. I guess I misinterpreted. To stay on-topic, here is a shot from my Ikegami TM20-17R.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 23:58:39 2015 No.2855590

>>2855524
I agree, but appreciation of this sort of visual fidelity is already such an acquired taste. My friends are baffled as to why I keep a big, heavy CRT around. They are entirely oblivious to the fact that old consoles actually do look good if you display them in their native resolution. Most of them tried hooking their SNES or N64 up to their flatscreens with composite and said "Jeez, I forgot how shitty these old games looked".

But anyway, yeah. All my friends upgraded to HD/flatscreen TVs long before I did. They probably thought I was just jealous, but the first thing I noticed on ALL of them was that they sounded terrible. I didn't see the purpose of spending 800 bucks on a flat screen to get your crisp, 1080p image, but have a sound system made out of drive-thru speakers.

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:34:26 2015 No.2855637
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>>2854810
Thank you sir, I just bought this. I did not low ball them however, as I was afraid someone would beat me to the punch. Straight up buy it now. Will post pics when it's delivered.

>pic related, my other Pvm, the baby model for my 3do

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:35:24 2015 No.2855640 >>2855637 Hopefully you won't use flash on the new pics. Good for you though.

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:44:25 2015 No.2855651
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>>2855640
Apologies brother, I keep my game room darker then a teenager / edge-lords bed room. That is to say if I didnt use a flash I wouldn't be able to even shoot a pic. Don't want fucking glare on muh old games. But I digress, yes I will shoot that bad boy in the light.

>have another pic, my vectrex

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:46:36 2015 No.2855656 >>2855651 I meant I wanted to, yknow, see the game. PVM's don't really look that pretty.

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:48:37 2015 No.2855661
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>>2855651
FIXED.
DO. IT. RIGHT. NEXT. TIME.

Every god damned thread we get a couple of these. Jesus Christ. Check your EXIF metadata for unwelcome suprises before uploading.

That said, nice vectrex. I love the joysticks on those things... Wish I had one. Played my friends' once.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:50:18 2015 No.2855663 File: 2.32 MB, 4128x2322, 1404529511480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Zoom in and enhance

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:54:02 2015 No.2855668 File: 2.02 MB, 1213x2730, 1448470713695.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2855663

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 15 01:02:55 2015 No.2855691
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>>2855661
>Check your EXIF metadata for unwelcome suprises before uploading.
Stop yelling at various anons and start yelling at hiro for still scrubbing exif data.

>>2855663
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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 01:13:23 2015 No.2855710 >>2855668 is this real? looks rendered

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 01:14:27 2015 No.2855715 File: 138 KB, 789x1116, 2300291-manhunt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2855663

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 02:46:56 2015 No.2855870 File: 3.66 MB, 3810x3059, IMG_8165.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] always thought this title screen was really well designed

Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 03:43:39 2015 No.2855917

Hey I finally got the keys to the BVM1911 and now that Im messing around with it I cant seem to get a video to display... I can get a white screen and the inputs are picking up the sync signals, whether it be a separate sync via RGBs or using a Composite inputs. but neither produce a picture. I havent the slightest idea why.

>>	Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 03:48:39 2015 No.2855921 >>2855917 For clarification I see white lines and scanlines. and can see the menu so the display is working.

>>	Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 04:00:21 2015 No.2855929 >>2855917 >>2855921 UPDATE IM A DUMBASS didnt clean the cartridge before putting in the SNES. works fine now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 04:04:24 2015 No.2855931 >>2854184 >>2854254 Newer boards may allow you to use the onboard port as a passthrough. Check out your BIOS settings. I have it set up that way at work. Looks mad sexy.

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 04:11:25 2015 No.2855938
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>>2855545

God dammit, stop saying that. It looks like shit. Replace your mids. The only reason it hasn't drastically affected the sound is likely because it has a decent crossover, which is also probably old and fucked by now too. I don't care how OEM it looks; if any of my SW-165 speakers were fucked I'd switch them out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 04:21:19 2015 No.2855947 >>2855938 SW-160. I dunno where the 5 came from. Whatever. FIX YOUR SHIT

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 06:33:18 2015 No.2856047 >>2854254 >fucking LCDs are fucking LCDs any different from usual LCDs

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 10:50:43 2015 No.2856275 >>2855710 yeah, it's real. It's an IPS LCD though.

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 10:52:06 2015 No.2856276

>>2855938
>God dammit, stop saying that. It looks like shit. Replace your mids. The only reason it hasn't drastically affected the sound is likely because it has a decent crossover, which is also probably old and fucked by now too. I don't care how OEM it looks; if any of my SW-165 speakers were fucked I'd switch them out.

The original surround does not have an exact replacement and it will alter the sound of the room. Fuck you, I actually repaired speakers professionally, I know that they're fine as is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 11:17:13 2015 No.2856303 >>2856047 yes, fucking LCD's are owned by people who don't come to the conclusion that they can unplug a secondary monitor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 11:48:50 2015 No.2856360 >>2856047 fucking LCDs only display porn

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 16:18:19 2015 No.2856803 File: 3.67 MB, 4608x3456, sonic2-480i.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Behold, the rare 480i genesis game. Not aware of any others. I'm sure there are though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 16:28:23 2015 No.2856821 >>2856803 There was a gokart game I forgot the name of, and that Censor C64 picture scroll demo also ran in 480i.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 16:29:31 2015 No.2856824 >>2856803 hokuto no ken / last battle text intro is 480i

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 21:12:49 2015 No.2857496 >>2856276 If you replace them with drivers of same size and simliar/close range and your crossover network hasn't drifted from age it won't do a goddamn thing to 'alter the sound of the room' you audiophile fucking asshole. Fix your shit.

>>	Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 21:28:54 2015 No.2857539 >>2857496 Would you like some fries with that salt?

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 22:51:22 2015 No.2857706

>>2857539

Yes; fries are delicious. I get ass-pained when someone tries to brag about having great sound when he lets his speakers fall apart. I'm not knocking his ability to re-foam a woofer; shit has always looked like a pain in the ass and I would be hard pressed to do so myself and not just replace the damn things outright, so good for him, seriously. But you don't sit there and talk to me about 'ruining the sound' when he's already not accounting for the fact that his other cracked surrounds are compromising the box (these things don't appear to be ported and nothing I can find about the mids suggest they are individually sealed) not to mention the status of the likely old, dry caps in the crossover network and the old, likely oxidised and poorly functioning L-pads on the front. My speakers looked gorgeous but they honestly sounded like shit until I got up the nerve to rip them apart and replace/recondition/restuff all the ~40 year old internals.

I mad.

>>	Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 23:14:59 2015 No.2857745 >>2857706 Im not saying he isnt being pretentious but no need to get mad on the internet. Haha

>>	Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 23:18:26 2015 No.2857753 >>2857706 Not relevant to CRTs but about the speakers on a more serious note where would you go to find replacement speakers for bookshelf/floorstanding boxes? I only ever knew of buying car audio speakers outside of prebuilt boxes.

Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 23:22:14 2015 No.2857762

And as the manual pretty much stated the BVM-1911 doesnt support 480p so now i have 2 480i sets which is nice albeit a tad unnecessary.
Anyone have any solutions for 480p off hand? Preferably an EDTV because I cant find a professional level monitor that maxes at 480p theyre either 480i or HD capable.

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 15 23:33:35 2015 No.2857780 >>2857762 >Anyone have any solutions for 480p off hand? PC monitor and a transcoder if you want component support?

Undesired Life Tue Dec 15 23:41:17 2015 No.2857793

>>2857780
Have a transcoder and monitor, it works but was hoping for a direct connect to the monitor solution.

The transcoder I have im not a huge fan of and any decent ones are pretty pricey. And trying to find a simple no settings straight transcoder that isnt discontinued seems all but impossible. All the ones I find anymore have image settings and/or resolution settings I dont want any of that extra circuitry involved.

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 15 23:52:04 2015 No.2857813

>>2853901
If you don't mind me asking, what transcoder do you currently have?

The Key Digital KD-CTCA3 I bought a few weeks back seems to work wonderfully, and is |JUST| a transcoder. The only user controllable things on it are a few dip switches for switching between how you want your sync information to come out.

I can't speak directly on the quality of it, but I see an auction on ebay right now for it's predecessor, the KD-CTCA2. Admittedly, it doesn't have a power supply and requires a bit more manual adjustment for different resolutions, but you can't argue too much for $14 shipped; And that's if they don't accept a best offer.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/201445653939

http://keydigital.com/items.asp?ItemCode=KDPS5V1A&Company=KEY for the official power supply; Shouldn't be difficult at all finding one to match it.

>>	Undesired Life Wed Dec 16 00:07:17 2015 No.2857830 >>2857813 I just have the Monoprice YPbPr to VGA transcoder. What I dont like is it has brightness, contrast, sharpness, etc. Settings as well as a limited selection of output resolutions. Which is in effect scaling the image.

>>	Undesired Life Wed Dec 16 00:18:44 2015 No.2857850 >>2857813 Does the monitor you use have an issues displaying the "TV" resolutions?

Kya !kDashing02 Wed Dec 16 00:28:59 2015 No.2857867 [SPOILER]

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>>2857830
Yeah, I can see that being a bother. Literally all this thing is doing is changing color spaces and processing sync, be it either to RGsB, RGBS, or RGBHV.

I've only had a chance to use it on my Megaview, which is seemingly fine with those resolutions as it is, but if you'll give me a few, I'll connect my GC and PS2 up to a PC monitor and see how it deals.

The Megaview did need me to manually adjust the vertical size to play well with 720p/1080i, but once that was done, it looked absolutely wonderful. Standard 4:3 480p didn't need any real adjustments at all >>2855691

Despite the text being a bit w̶o̶o̶m̶y̶ bloomy, Splatoon looks much nicer on it than it does on my flatscreen.
>quality 60 jpeg
Jesus
https://a.pomf.cat/xianfb.JPG

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 00:32:01 2015 No.2857869

>>2857745

Only things worth doing on the internet are getting mad about stupid shit and fapping. Anyway, I went with Parts-Express when I bought up all my stuff. They do have a mix of expensive audiophile bullshit and cheap serviceable components, so do some homework about what you're trying to do before you commit to anything. As for replacing individual components, you're likely not going to need/want to swap out components on basic 2/3-way speakers that come with a receiver unless you're particularly attached to the look, or the other internals are known to be of good quality. You'd probably be better off building a new set from scratch or a kit, or just buying one of their generic bookshelf sets. Most pre-built speakers that aren't expensive brand-names or separately-sold monsters like his or mine have little to no crossover networks to speak of; usually just a single capacitor between the mid/woofer and tweeter. It isn't to say they're necessarily shit, but they could definitely be engineered better and it may not be worth the time/effort/money to fix them up.

tl;dr literally almost any alternative audio solution is better than built in speakers in TVs/PVMs/Monitors and what you already have is probably perfectly serviceable unless it's actually fucked, but check out that site if you really want look around. And do some reading on speaker theory.

Undesired Life Wed Dec 16 00:56:29 2015 No.2857891

>>2857867
Yeah my worry is with a straight transcoder the monitor may not like a 16:9 480/720/1080p signal.

But without owning one and testing it I cant be sure.

>>2857869
Thanks for the info. I was just curious to be honest. My father has an old set of kenwood floor speakers and had the woofers replaced on it back in the day (ie. 15 years ago maybe) and thats the only time ive seen replacement speakers installed. Instead of outright buying a whole new set.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 01:12:23 2015 No.2857915 Are there any guides on how to get inside of a PVM?

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 01:16:38 2015 No.2857917

>>2857706
>>2857496
I prefer original speakers to bullshit third party stuff, especially when they still sound perfectly acceptable with all the other speakers pulled out of the line.

It's my speaker, so fuck off. I know what I'm doing and your lust for perfect looks at the cost of unoriginal sound is not something I want.

>>2857915
1) unscrew screws
2) pull back off of monitor

if that confused you, look in a PVM service manual.

Kya !kDashing02 Wed Dec 16 06:53:57 2015 No.2858279
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>>2857891
>Yeah my worry is with a straight transcoder the monitor may not like a 16:9 480/720/1080p signal.
I will say, 1080p does do some weird shit with both the Megaview and my Sony PC CRT; I can't get the latter to accept it properly, and you get some really strange shit going on at the refresh it will accept it at ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfY5DKt2hps ) and while the former will technically sync and display a 1080p signal, it sure as hell doesn't like it, and you get wild artifacting all over the place along with the image being dark and distorted.
I haven't had a chance to try 1440x1080, so it may just be a problem with the horizontal resolution.
1280x720 is fine on both monitors, aside from getting the aspect ratio right.
I honestly can't remember if the Splatoon (and Wind Waker HD) photos I took were of it running in 720p or 1080i, but both looked absolutely fine on it.

Did some fucking around with the Gamecube, which the monitor saw as a 640x480 signal. I put a bit of video together, but it'll be a little while before it's processed and all that: https://youtu.be/UiY60QotxMU

Might move the PS3 over and try messing around with it in a bit to see how it handles 720p/1080i (and maybe p).

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 09:24:23 2015 No.2858410 I found a Sony PVM 2030 (20") $75 or he has a 14" for $50 For $75 is that a good deal?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 10:20:40 2015 No.2858489 Reminder that scanlines are not intended.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 10:24:48 2015 No.2858496 >>2853943 Is that an Itanium or just a Xeon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 11:16:33 2015 No.2858559 >>2858410 What's the 14 inch model?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 11:22:21 2015 No.2858568 >>2858410 Considering the wide range of prices that people ask for these, that's pocket change. If you really want it, I'd jump on it quickly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 11:48:23 2015 No.2858629 >>2858489 Reminder that you weren't intended.

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 12:45:05 2015 No.2858728
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>>2858496
Sadly it's just a netburst-era Xeon (2.6Ghz). I really want an itanic so I can port all the programs I wrote to yet another platform.

>>2858489
You're right, scanlines aren't intended. Scanlines are a side effect of higher resolution CRT's, though, and CRT's were the intended viewing platform for these old games. I don't love scanlines, but I do love clearly defined pixels and usually the two go hand in hand.

>>2858629
I lol'ed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 12:57:32 2015 No.2858751 >>2858728 whoops, meant 3.6GHz

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 14:00:56 2015 No.2858853 >>2853943 what are those buttons on the desk for

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 14:04:28 2015 No.2858864 >>2855637 pleb question incoming what's that white square on top of most Sony PVM's for?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 14:05:38 2015 No.2858870 >>2858629 OOOOHHHH SNAP

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 14:16:32 2015 No.2858889 >>2858864 I think it's called a "tally light". It lights up when a live camera is connected and being recorded, or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 14:17:16 2015 No.2858892 >>2858889 interesting

Undesired Life Wed Dec 16 14:39:46 2015 No.2858915

>>2858279
Looks pretty good! I was actually able to find a couple of the CTCA-3s for around $50 on ebay so I may pick one of those up, I had seen one earlier going for like $25 but i keep pushing it off and then eventually the listing ended(no sale) but was never relisted.

If I could find a manual for the CTCA-2 so I know what the dip switches do, i would probably save the money and buy that.

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 16:11:37 2015 No.2859110
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Anyone know of good 16:9 CRTs?

Apparently the first 1080p CRT was the InterView 28hd96 in 1997 at the price of $10,000 (USD)
So what was the first 720p monitor? And the first 16:9 display in general?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 16:22:48 2015 No.2859127 PSA for anyone in the Austin area: http://austin.craigslist.org/ele/5335491768.html PVM 14N6U >This monitor was lightly used for about a month (less than 25 hours) then put into storage until now

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>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 17:59:01 2015 No.2859315 How do you get the best audio out of a CRT? Speakers? Will the built-in stereo be fine? Is there some sort of guide to this?

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Wed Dec 16 18:11:28 2015 No.2859328 >>2858915 >If I could find a manual for the CTCA-2 so I know what the dip switches do, i would probably save the money and buy that. https://web.archive.org/web/20030624015220/http://www.keydigital.com/manuals/KD-CTCA2_manual.pdf

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 18:24:41 2015 No.2859334 >>2859315 Use separate speakers. Sound will be as good as those. That's it, really. I guess something can be said about minimizing buzz when screen is white by using properly shielded SCART cables etc., though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 18:36:03 2015 No.2859340 >>2859334 Seems simple enough. Any recommendations for specific speakers?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 18:51:09 2015 No.2859364 >>2853945 What scalar are you using ? Id be interested in running some consoles to vga.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 19:07:43 2015 No.2859409 >>2859110 was there even that much HD content (let alone 1080p) back then

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 19:33:54 2015 No.2859440 File: 8 KB, 366x206, img_kw-3200hd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2859110 >>2859409 Sony had some 1080i "hd" hdvs widescreen monitors in 1990. Hi-Ten bomberman was "hd" running on these tvs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 20:56:12 2015 No.2859545 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-PVM-20M2U-20-inch-Retro-Gaming-Monitor-Component-RGB-PVM-CRT/111848966565 should i drive 3+ hours to buy this? (with a winning bid of like less than 60 bucks, that is)

>>	Undesired Life Wed Dec 16 21:19:50 2015 No.2859578 >>2859328 I thank you again!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 21:51:09 2015 No.2859646 >>2859545 hell yes. I drove around 2 hours to get a 20L2 MDU for $80.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 21:52:46 2015 No.2859649 >>2859646 I should mention we originally agreed $160 but when I got there I pointed out it looked nothing at all like the picture with broken plastic tabs a missing rack mount and damage that totally showed it was dropped.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 22:57:35 2015 No.2859749 File: 353 KB, 1157x646, tv1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sweet baby moses you cant be serious

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>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 23:44:50 2015 No.2859819 File: 1.74 MB, 1500x3000, 1450243546504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2859315

>>	Undesired Life Wed Dec 16 23:47:38 2015 No.2859825 >>2859749 >14hrs left that shit will atleast double by the end of that auction.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 23:59:33 2015 No.2859842 >>2859825 good god thats so unbelievable i got one for $70 a few months ago.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 00:12:26 2015 No.2859857 >>2859842 Online the prices are beyond inflated I found a listing for a pvm20l5 currently at roughly $50 with 7 days to go if it stay under $150 i might get it. Since its only an hour or so drive for me id save on shipping and pick it up myself.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 00:12:37 2015 No.2859858

>>2859842
These things exist in a state of wild price flux. There is no net worth, because they're trash to some, and treasure to others, and they're a finite resource.

Sometimes they show up on ebay with people asking in the range of $1000. I don't think I've ever seen one of those sell, though. Unfortunately, it's much like how the used game/console market is shit. There are a ton of hipster faggots running the demand up on this shit.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 00:25:35 2015 No.2859871 >>2859858 This, this right here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 00:46:54 2015 No.2859891 >>2859857 yeah, I saw that one. No way in hell its not gonna stay under $150. best of luck though anon

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 00:53:03 2015 No.2859896 File: 3.89 MB, 3244x2939, 20151206_143100~01~01~01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2859892 That feels so weird to look at when I'm so used to aperature grill.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 01:01:10 2015 No.2859904 >>2859891 Haha if it doesnt no biggy i dont really need it. But itd be nice to have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 02:12:10 2015 No.2860006 >>2855501 Is there a 4chan thread somewhere for vintage stereo equipment?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 02:16:50 2015 No.2860009 >>2858889 Still want someone to figure out a cool mod for the tally light.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 02:19:23 2015 No.2860012 >>2859749 Got my 14L5 for $80 of craigslist, delivered. Set your craigslist alerts and buy locally.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 02:39:08 2015 No.2860038
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>>2858853
There's an air hockey table under there if you remove the top part. That's a power strip for it.

>>2859664
I play this game on a real arcade machine at a local shop a lot, and that just looks TOO clean to be real. Non-arcade games don't bother me like that does for some reason.

>>2859896
You may be sitting too close if you see individual phosphors.

>>2860006
Don't think so but I'd love to talk about vintage stereo stuff. I have lots.

Got another famicom today, this one's the cleanest, whitest looking of the three I have now. One's in storage so here's the two I've got on me. New one on the right. The controllers look great, too. Just got to AV mod it - this time I'm going to replace the power supply board and add jacks to the back panel instead of drilling on the side of the case.

IaTM Thu Dec 17 04:09:46 2015 No.2860136

>>2860038
>Just got to AV mod it - this time I'm going to replace the power supply board and add jacks to the back panel instead of drilling on the side of the case.
Serious question, what are you going to replace the power board with? if all you're going to do id add jacks to the back, you can just cut off the area behind the voltage regulator, leaving enough space for the/a repalcement heat sink).

If you're using some prefab board (no idea if the RGBNES power board can be used without the RGBNES itself), then disregard me, I'm a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 06:09:44 2015 No.2860246 File: 138 KB, 960x640, graveyard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2859292

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 07:34:52 2015 No.2860304 >>2860038 >TOO clean to be real RGB modded NES on my D20F1U finally found a game that my wife is better at than me

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 11:28:50 2015 No.2860541 File: 41 KB, 500x373, 51zPN2bDXQL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can get a Panasonic CT-S1390Y for $25. Worth it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 12:49:04 2015 No.2860676 anyone in manhattan? >Sony BVM-D20F1U Trinitron Color Video Monitor w/ Video Monitor Control - $120 http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/ele/5364337709.html

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 13:38:39 2015 No.2860773 Lets say I have five systems that I want to connect to a splitter via RGB, then I want the splitter to be able to output composite, S-Video, and RGB. What's the best way to go about this without adding a lot of input latency or quality degradation?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 13:38:44 2015 No.2860774 >>2859749 What's so special about these CRTs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 13:40:30 2015 No.2860780 >>2860774 they do 240p, 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. most crts do just 240p and 480i max

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 13:56:59 2015 No.2860830 >>2860676 The guy already has someone that's offering full asking price. I tried to offer 80

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:12:16 2015 No.2860861 >>2860676 do i offer him 150 and meet him today to pick it up

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:24:41 2015 No.2860880 >>2860861 Go for it but you're the scum of the earth for driving up prices

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:25:47 2015 No.2860882 >>2860880 Fair enough, I'll offer him what he's asking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:28:46 2015 No.2860890 >>2860882 >>2860830 Chances are he'll tell you to bugger off because its first come first serve

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:30:51 2015 No.2860893 >>2859749 I just picked up a free 20M4U in great shape, but I'm still on the lookout for an L5 for playing Gamecube/Dreamcast games in 480p

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:35:38 2015 No.2860902 >>2860890 That's fine, my day will come, either in the form of a deal, or in the form of me not spending money long enough to pay some ridiculous eBay price.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 14:48:32 2015 No.2860929 >>2860676 Has any one who contacted him bothered asking about hours?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:52:23 2015 No.2860941 >>2860902 I hear ya brotha, I'll be seeing you out there on my hunt. Managed to pickup a 14m2u in the Bronx but I'm looking for an upgrade. >>2860929 I'll take what I can get, I don't expect this guy to know the hours

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:55:16 2015 No.2860947 >>2860929 I asked before posting. He didn't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 14:57:43 2015 No.2860952 >>2860941 I scooped a 14m2u on eBay a while back but it got damaged as hell in shipping, buttons rarely work, and it doesn't degauss properly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 15:02:28 2015 No.2860964 >>2860952 >sad face My m2u's image is slightly slanted. Don't want to crack it open and fix it so i just have to deal with it at least until I sell it to a sucker for 120 dollars

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 15:15:23 2015 No.2860995

>>2860136
>Serious question, what are you going to replace the power board with? if all you're going to do id add jacks to the back, you can just cut off the area behind the voltage regulator, leaving enough space for the/a repalcement heat sink).
I don't have anything that can drill through metal, and I don't want all the interference associated with RF modulators on my video and audio signals. I'm going to get an aluminum heat sink (I have a bit of a collection of them), use a 7805 voltage regulator, and use some perfboard. It'll be home-made.

>If you're using some prefab board (no idea if the RGBNES power board can be used without the RGBNES itself), then disregard me, I'm a faggot.
Nah, not using a prefab board, that shit's dumb and expensive. NESRGB too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 15:17:22 2015 No.2860997 >>2860541 Definitely worth it the Panasonics are great monitors. Do it!!

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 17:46:44 2015 No.2861350 >>2860947 You can literally open the on screen menu and look it takes all of a minute...

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 17:55:15 2015 No.2861376 I just sent the guy a message explaining how to access the hours via the menu. We shall see if I get a reply.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 18:06:52 2015 No.2861413 >>2857813 >>2858279 So trying to find that power supply for cheap isnt as easy as I thought. I found it new but they want $100 for it just the psu. And i could buy a cheap 5v1a supply but i dont know what kind of connector it requires.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:32:34 2015 No.2861472 >tfw moved and i can't find my CRT I can't play my PS1 on an LCD screen, shit looks so bad. What's the best cheap CRT for gaming?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 18:38:59 2015 No.2861491 >>2861472 there is no one best CRT for gaming. Especially cheap. Find one you like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 19:11:42 2015 No.2861552 >>2861350 >>2861376 I'm aware, but I figured he'd get buyers regardless, so I didn't push him. ended up being 30k, FYI

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 19:18:57 2015 No.2861571 >>2861552 That's a reasonable number. Get it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 19:19:14 2015 No.2861572 >>2861491 >>2861491 Ah, ok. Guess I'll have a hunt around for one. Thanks for the answer.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 19:45:35 2015 No.2861617 >>2861552 Thats not bad.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 19:48:20 2015 No.2861621 >>2861552 Hmmm guy didnt get back to me yet probably filter through a million inquiries as you stated, i offered to purchase it if it was still available saturday being as thats the only time id be free to pick up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 19:51:10 2015 No.2861630 >>2861571 >>2861621 I grabbed it earlier today. Sorry y'all.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 19:59:24 2015 No.2861642 >>2861630 Haha its cool! good for you hope you enjoy it!!

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 20:01:45 2015 No.2861647 >>2861630 Pics when its setup and running

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:06:17 2015 No.2861650 >>2861647 will do, will do. need to order some cables so it'll be a bit.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 20:13:44 2015 No.2861671 >>2861650 I hear that. Im in the need of a bunch of switches/distribution amps.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 20:15:36 2015 No.2861675 >>2861671 Ive been following this one guy on assemblergames for well over a year waiting on him to complete production of a 7x1 scart switch which can be daisy chained for 13 inputs if necessary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:28:53 2015 No.2861718 File: 2.90 MB, 4608x3456, IMG_4401-4mb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2861650 >ordering cables >being this pleb

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:29:53 2015 No.2861720 >>2861675 >using SCART >not in the EU

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 20:30:29 2015 No.2861723 Anyone know if there is a way to check hours on the PVM-20L5 or 14L5??

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:31:39 2015 No.2861727 >>2861723 As a 20L5 owner, nope. There's no way. If it looks good, good enough.

Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 20:33:00 2015 No.2861730

>>2861720
Caring this much what cables i use. I dont have want or confidence in my soldering skills to attempt modding rca outputs to my consoles.

Although i could mod the scart cables to rcas for each line i still dont want to go through all that hassle.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 20:34:06 2015 No.2861735 >>2861727 Damn i was worried that would be the problem. I dont understand why it isnt a viewable option on those but is on most other monitors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:35:23 2015 No.2861737 >>2861718 I need RCA cables.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:45:06 2015 No.2861751

>>2861718
You know, just maybe, and try to think about this for a moment:

There are people out there who don't like the concept of permanently damaging their console's shell (a finite resource, mind you) to add additional video outputs that already exist on the multi-out connectors.

Also, the obvious not everyone who gets into RGB owns a soldering iron. Maybe they should as far as modding goes but that's just my opinionated conjecture. Not to be rude with my imitation of your sarcastic tone at the top but it's quite annoying seeing it in every single thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:52:48 2015 No.2861756 >>2861376 How do you access the hours and can you do that on a m2u?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 20:56:25 2015 No.2861758 >>2861756 I think it's exclusive to BVMs. You get to it through the control unit's menu.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 21:00:23 2015 No.2861761 >>2861756 Find an operators manual and it should tell you off hand i dont know sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 21:10:31 2015 No.2861771 >>2861751 It's on the back of the console, no one cares and no one will ever see it. >>2861730 >getting SCART cables in the first place

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 21:12:21 2015 No.2861773

>>2861737
>I need RCA cables.
Okay. You can get them in local stores, but yeah, monoprice has them super cheap. Just don't pay $20-$40 for a few feet of wire like the NTSC SCART people do when they just convert the SCART to BNC anyway and don't get any benefit from the SCART connectors.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 21:14:24 2015 No.2861775 >>2861771 Find me properly wired rca rgb multiout cables and id never buy scart again. And not some homebrew shit you made yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 21:19:16 2015 No.2861781 >>2861773 thanks for the advice and I think your setup is cool, but I definitely consider it a benefit to have my consoles in good shape inside and out. doesn't need to be a rivalry, though

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 22:00:41 2015 No.2861845 >see mango's stream >he practices on an HD crt No wonder he's become such a buster

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 22:36:12 2015 No.2861892

>>2861718
God you fucking obnoxious cunt, you do this almost every fucking thread. Just let people do what they want to do without being an elitist douche about it. Jesus fucking Christ. When people come in here to troll the CRT thread, it's because of assholes like you.

Worst part is you just post the same fucking pictures of your shit. I fucking hate you, you scum. I wouldn't piss on your fucking teeth if your gums were on fire.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 22:54:26 2015 No.2861923

>>2861771
I like how you completely dismissed my point about people not wanting to damage their console shells without making any actual effort to refute it.

By your logic, it would be perfectly fine to cut out the entire rear of the console shell and just hotglue the connectors to the bottom shell, because who cares? It's in the back and nobody will ever see it.

An exaggeration, admittedly but can you see where that argument's flaws lie?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:14:19 2015 No.2861945 File: 22 KB, 550x367, nam-june-paik.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2860246

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:15:28 2015 No.2861948 >>2861771 >caring what other people do with their consoles in the first place

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:34:55 2015 No.2861974 File: 1.60 MB, 2038x1662, Screen Shot 2015-12-17 at 8.34.15 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:35:55 2015 No.2861975 >>2861675 Isn't it 8 inputs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:39:51 2015 No.2861981 >>2861781 'in good shape' apparently means something different to you. Mine still functions perfectly and looks aesthetically pleasing from the front and sides. It is still structurally sound.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:41:04 2015 No.2861984 >>2861974 God Speed my friend. I think the Plus model has OSD. Also Its heavy as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:42:50 2015 No.2861985 >>2861923 see >>2861981 but replace 'in good shape' with 'damage'.

Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:43:40 2015 No.2861987

>>2861771
>getting SCART cables in the first place
I am mostly with you, RIT bro, but in my case I ordered SCART connectors cheap online and make my own cables. It's convenient to cram the resistors and caps into a SCART plug.

and I can sell them fit twenty bucks online

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:45:13 2015 No.2861990 >>2861987 The profit stealing is good and funny, but I just add the needed components inside my consoles (capacitors, resistors, whatever else) and make things simple.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:47:29 2015 No.2861991 File: 3.22 MB, 5312x2988, 20151216_195649_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The setup is almost complete. I need to make a couple more cables and rgb mod my duo and it'll be good to go.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:50:33 2015 No.2861994 >>2861990 I thought about doing that and running my systems through an old stereo receiver as a switch, but I'm a lazy man. Making SCART cables was easier. I already had composite or svideo cables, just had to bust the proprietary ones open.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 23:52:30 2015 No.2861998 >>2861975 Might be thought it was 7 but i could be wrong. All i know is it also has a vga out for capture purposes which was a nice addition.

>>	Undesired Life Thu Dec 17 23:57:34 2015 No.2862004 >>2861974 Too far for my blood, although i really want one mainly for the size for splitscreen gaming, and itd be 4x the price just for shipping.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 00:07:45 2015 No.2862024 >>2861981 yeah I guess it does. neat :^)

Kya !kDashing02 Fri Dec 18 00:24:21 2015 No.2862046

>>2861413
The official one that came with mine is +6VDC, 2.5A; Center positive, with what I am almost positive is a type M connector. Outer diameter is definitely 5.5mm, though it can be difficult to discern between 2.1 and 2.5 mm. Still pretty sure it's 2.1, and as such a type M.

>>2861991
>Intellivision hiding behind the Genesis
Cute
Aside from the monitor being ever so slightly off center and missing the front face, it looks perfect.

Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 00:34:16 2015 No.2862062

>>2862046
For the price difference and possible error in power supply purchase i thi k im just going to buy the CTCA-3 i found on ebay for $50ish plus shipping. Comes complete with power supply. Saving me the hassle. And maybe just buy the ctca2 for shits cause its only $10

My main concern right now is purchasing the proper switches as i stated above. For the setup. I think ive found all the ones i need just have to actually buy them.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 01:08:08 2015 No.2862108
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>>2861994
My stereo receiver and switch. I use the little green switch for composite video sources since I have the output from my receiver going to csync. Took these when I was redoing the wiring about two weeks ago (I thought of a better and more efficient way to wire everything in).

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 01:10:56 2015 No.2862113

>>2861994
P.S.
If you are making SCART cables instead of buying the stupidly priced pre-made ones by recycling the old multi-out plugs, I don't take too much issue with it. Except that SCART switches are still stupidly expensive and you aren't aiming for SCART into a PVM or BVM. Meanwhile, RCA -> BNC adapters are cheap, plentiful, and you only need as many as the inputs on your BVM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 01:15:08 2015 No.2862119 >>2861892 Yeah, it's not because we all use CRT's and feel better than people who use LCD's for retro games, it's because of me. I probably caused the holocaust too.

Kya !kDashing02 Fri Dec 18 01:53:26 2015 No.2862169

>>2862113
Going for RCA or BNC for termination on cables also gives you the "easy" option of using something like an Extron Crosspoint as a switch.
It'll take up a shit load of space, but you sure as hell don't have to worry about interference and the like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 02:12:25 2015 No.2862187 >>2861991 >all those flashcarts comfy as hell setup

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 04:08:41 2015 No.2862314 Asking for options, would it be safe to puta 20" BVM (~80lbs) on top of a 24" BVM.???

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 04:09:43 2015 No.2862316 >>2862314 >Options meant opinions*

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 04:35:32 2015 No.2862357 >>2862314 Probaby but it depends what surface its resting on

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 04:40:21 2015 No.2862367
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>>2858410

Bit later into the thread
But i went and got it and apparently its a 2130QM or something

Need to get a scart or something for the rgb

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 04:47:40 2015 No.2862380 >>2862357 What do you mean by that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 04:56:04 2015 No.2862405 >>2862380 Id be more worried about the desk or whatever under it than the monitor

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 05:03:59 2015 No.2862425 File: 2.57 MB, 5312x2988, 1450414049877.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2861991 I'd put the speakers here so the tv-bench doesn't block sound

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 05:22:17 2015 No.2862456 >>2862405 Ahhh gotcha no that im not worried about i plan on building a desk myself out of solid wood, non of that fiberboard stuff. As long as the monitor can handle the weight of the smaller one on top of it then ill be okay.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 05:59:39 2015 No.2862514 >>2855938 It looks like the foam around the top right of the woofer is separated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 06:08:44 2015 No.2862527 >>2854538 well not him but it is kinda better

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 06:11:07 2015 No.2862530 >>2855370 love the art in this game and how it looks in rgb

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 06:18:23 2015 No.2862539 >>2859782 I enjoyed this

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 07:43:00 2015 No.2862673 >>2862539 I knew these threads were a mid-life crisis aphrodisiac.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 08:02:10 2015 No.2862698

>>2862425
They are now, they weren't even hooked up in that photo. I snapped the pic quick to show my friend.

I knew someone would say something about that.

>>2862046
I can't find 4:3 masks online anywhere, it came with the widescreen one, I may just take a dremel to it.

>>2862187
The Saturn has a rhea and I got in the last pre-order for a gdemu too, can't wait.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 08:36:15 2015 No.2862727

>>2862119
>Yeah, it's not because we all use CRT's and feel better than people who use LCD's for retro games
Maybe YOU do, because you're a condescending sack of shit. Don't project your abhorrent attitude onto others here. I use a CRT because I like it, and I don't act like it makes me a better person than someone who just plugs their games to an LCD through an emulator or whatever, because as long as they enjoy it, that's all that matters.

You, on the other hand, are an insufferable fucking douchebag about almost everything you say and do in these threads. I frequent many boards on 4chan, but you are the only person that I've become convinced is an absolutely reprehensible human being.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 08:42:56 2015 No.2862730 >>2862527 sure, but my monitor is better than his and I see no benefit in telling him

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Fri Dec 18 09:59:55 2015 No.2862784 File: 2.17 MB, 5472x3648, DSC01931.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 11:04:49 2015 No.2862879 >>2862425 what brand of flash/rom carts are those? Do they work well?

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 11:35:20 2015 No.2862905
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>>2862879
Everdrive N8
SD2SNES
ED64v2
EDMDv3
TurboED
EDGB
RHEA

i've never had an issue with any of them. i got them from krikzz (sans rhea) the last couple years when they go on sale. the only thing i can say about the chinese knockoffs is that it has been said they're shit, but i've never seen any concrete evidence other than thicker pcb pics i've seen. so ymmv.

i bought star fox and a star fox 2 repro as well as a japanese SMW2:YI to play those games, they're the only ones i'm really interested in that aren't supported.
i'd like to find a cheap smrpg but i'm not holding my breath, i can emulate if i have the urge to replay it. i bought it on my wii u, wanna fight about it?

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 11:55:30 2015 No.2862936

>>2862905
>i bought it on my wii u, wanna fight about it?
No, because I'm not one of those pricks that gets hot n' bothered over how others choose to play their games.

How cheap were those carts on sale? I was at that site earlier and they're pretty pricey in general...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 11:57:20 2015 No.2862939 >>2862936 I think it was all 20% off this past Black Friday

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 12:31:04 2015 No.2862978 >>2862905 >MFW just given a free copy of SMRPG

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 12:32:29 2015 No.2862980 >>2859364 Atlona AVS100. Not really meant for old game consoles but does the job alright. Just get a PVM/BVM or other company's broadcast monitor, really.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 12:34:28 2015 No.2862983 >>2862730 Stop impersonating me, asshole. The 20L5 is just as good as the 14L5 in terms of what it can do, one is just larger and heavier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 12:42:57 2015 No.2862989 >>2862983 I wasn't impersonating you and I'm not the 14L5 guy.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 12:47:37 2015 No.2862993

>tfw seeing piles of CRTs at the local recycling center, even with them charging a 20 dollar fee per monitor donated

I saw one yesterday that must have been 40 inches, only saw the back but it was huge and riddled with component inputs. Wish I had the space for such a majestic creature, 6th gen games would rock on that thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 13:06:56 2015 No.2863009 >>2862993 Ehhh, at 40 inches, you're starting to get into the range of diminishing returns. The image will be bigger, but sharpness will be decreased significantly. Even more so depending on whether or not it's a good brand of TV in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 13:20:29 2015 No.2863036 >>2854869 no, being a pretentious douchebag trying to one-up people every chance you get, that's what is annoying as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 14:34:54 2015 No.2863121 >>2861892 I like to imagine that Free 20L5 Guy hasn't been in this thread at all and it is just someone pretending to be him.

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 14:35:05 2015 No.2863124
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>>2861675
I got one of these guys
http://www.inlineinc.com/products/matrix/3808.htm
to switch video around. they are all discontinued but they are GREAT and you can use them for anything from 240p to 1080p if you're willing to use BNC cables.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:13:40 2015 No.2863164 >>2863124 As bitchen sweet as something like that looks, I do just need a 3 component switch for my ps2 GameCube and Wii.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 15:39:08 2015 No.2863206 >>2863124 Thats banging but i need a scart switch not really a BNC although might be getting a 1x6 BNC distribution amp for my setup. And use it where applicable.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 15:40:37 2015 No.2863210 >>2863124 How much did it cost if I may ask?

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 15:42:23 2015 No.2863217 >>2863124 And you dont need to use BNC cables just buy the BNC to RCA adapters work great i have a bunch i use myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:45:51 2015 No.2863228 >>2863206 seen a scart switch in a bargain bin in tescos for 3 quid a while back, but i wanted a meal deal instead

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:46:11 2015 No.2863229 >>2863124 Don't give me any ideas! /vr/ rack setup.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:49:55 2015 No.2863240 >>2863210 not him but there's a few on ebay for 38 bucks with free shipping... i'm thinking about it....

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:51:03 2015 No.2863242 >>2863210 sure thing, guy :) I paid 100 bucks for it, because it was literally three blocks from home and I was able to test it fully which is always nice, but I've seen ebay has a couple for half that much money

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:52:35 2015 No.2863249 >>2863240 I'm the switcher guy. don't think, just go for it. this thing rocks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 15:52:51 2015 No.2863251 File: 294 KB, 417x370, youblewit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2854705 I was actually going to say exactly those things about the 20L5. It is actually nice, why do you think so many like it? those scan-lines? lol

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:04:05 2015 No.2863273 File: 25 KB, 636x259, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2863240 >>2863249 looks like i'm selling my scart cables and making some bnc breakouts >inb4 RCA to BNC 10 times is enough in one thread.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 16:10:17 2015 No.2863286 >>2863228 Amerifag here so only way im getting a scart switch is the internet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:10:31 2015 No.2863289 File: 137 KB, 218x324, warren.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tfw no cozy tv stand to put all my consoles under

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 16:13:50 2015 No.2863290 >>2863124 >>2863242 Im assuming it would accept and transmit any signal you input without issue. Such as YPbPr instead of the advertised RGBHV

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 16:14:59 2015 No.2863291 >>2863273 But... but... adapters are cheap id think cheaper than remaking all those cables

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:15:02 2015 No.2863292 >>2863289 tfw consoles are literally resting on a cardboard box

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:20:04 2015 No.2863303 File: 945 KB, 2448x3264, IMG_1646.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 20mdu might as well chime in...>>2854349

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:21:32 2015 No.2863306 File: 2.62 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_1649.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] up close and not so damn bright...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:37:33 2015 No.2863328 >>2863290 I haven't tried yet, but if you give me 15 minutes I can try it

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 16:38:34 2015 No.2863331 >>2863273 yay! you won't regret it.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 16:42:51 2015 No.2863337 >>2863328 Alrighty thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 17:06:58 2015 No.2863372 File: 583 KB, 742x672, lol.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2863337 yes, it works perfectly, undesired. exactly like it would if you plugged the console directly to the crt. excuse the shitty photo, I don't have my camera right now!

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 17:14:10 2015 No.2863387
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the rgb scart cables for my wii don't work properly so im actually fucking around with a snes emulator for the ps2, sound issues aside its actually pretty decent for SOME games

also does anyone have an issue with their phones camera not antibanding now and again ? yesterday i was taking pics of my trini just fine

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 17:22:22 2015 No.2863398 >>2863372 Sweet, might pick one up, although i might opt for a similar model Extron instead just a personal preference for the brand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 17:23:34 2015 No.2863402 File: 2.20 MB, 2322x4128, 20151218_221859.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2863387

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 17:25:18 2015 No.2863405 >>2863398 cool. I would have gone with extron too if I had the chance, but you might wanna consider that inline and extron actually merged and are one company.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 17:27:42 2015 No.2863415 >>2863405 Very true i found that out searching for a manual on the inline model it sent me to and extron page. Whichever I can find cheaper will be my deciding factor.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 17:32:16 2015 No.2863427 >>2863405 How do you go about sending different inputs to different outputs simultaneously? Is it even possible with that matrix? My quick skim of guide didnt seem to produce an answer but i can easily go back and reread it more thoroughly.

Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 17:55:04 2015 No.2863448

Looking into switching from scart ends to BNC cable ends for my consoles but it seems no one sells premade cables and I dont know if Im up to the task of making my own, although it wouldnt be too hard just cannibalizing my existing scart cables. It would end up saving me alot of money possibly depending on cost of materials in relation to the cost of the Scart switch im planning on purchasing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 18:02:30 2015 No.2863458 >>2863448 dude, forget it. BNC is way cheaper, it's what PVMs use, and everything's easier once you switch. making/repairing/remaking your own cables is as easy as getting a crimp tool and supplies are everywhere.

>>	Undesired Life Fri Dec 18 18:22:00 2015 No.2863487 >>2863458 Umm what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 19:41:27 2015 No.2863646 File: 833 KB, 2560x1440, 20151218_164230~01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:15:25 2015 No.2863681 well I got this shitty little 14 inch RCA and holy god the entire thing is tilted so bad how do I fix this I just want to play old games on a small CRT

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:30:04 2015 No.2863701 File: 145 KB, 720x450, 1450488604453.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] posting questions I'm sure have been asked thousands of times. Whats so great about PMV? What to look for when buying a crt?

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 20:54:34 2015 No.2863746

>>2863701
PVM:
Generally better quality than TVs. They often accept many video signals, including RGB, which is the best you can get from a retro console.

What to look for when buying a CRT:
Retro? Standard definition televisions, not HD crts. S-video, or component inputs if USA. Sony trinitrons are the most consistently decent ones.

Not retro? Any 20" trinitron PC monitor (dell p1110, for example)

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:00:42 2015 No.2863753
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>>2853901
Purchased a Sony / Olympus trinitron oev203.

Anyone got stats on this thing, or what Sony model it is equivalent to? Im real curious, and not much is showing up in Google at all when I research it. I've seen two different Sony models compared to it. And I know it will have liquid spill protection covers on it because it was specific to hospitals, but I'm more curious about the other details.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:30:48 2015 No.2863810 >>2863753 >Olympus trinitron oev203 prob a rebranded 1945q, 600tvl, 240 and 480i

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:39:57 2015 No.2863829 >>2863810 Everything so far points towards a rebranded 20 incher with 600 lines.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:43:49 2015 No.2863836 >>2863829 Specifically a PVM-20m2mdu. But I'm just not sure. Back and hook ups are the same...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:53:46 2015 No.2863847 >>2863829 I googled it and there was a listing that said it was a 19", if it's actually a 20" then yeah it's probably a 20m2u

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 21:58:31 2015 No.2863853 File: 3.75 MB, 5312x2988, 20150914_205719_reduced.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853939

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:01:24 2015 No.2863860 >>2863847 Yeah it would make more sense. Hence the 20 in the ove 203 model number

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:05:34 2015 No.2863872 File: 3.89 MB, 5312x2988, 20151215_192551_reduced.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853939

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 22:12:06 2015 No.2863885 File: 3.87 MB, 5312x2988, 20151006_224505_reduced.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853939

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:35:34 2015 No.2863972 >>2863121 I'd like to believe this. But his level of douchebaggery is inimitable.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:41:28 2015 No.2863975 https://twitter.com/byuu_san/status/677915448965509121

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 02:45:21 2015 No.2864118 >>2853903 is that kyra from ps4?

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 04:33:12 2015 No.2864167

>>2863681
rotate the deflection yoke. It's gonna be tedious and painful. I'd just stomach it if you can.

If not, I've done the deflection yoke rotation before. It does work, but it's difficult to realign it properly for convergence. Anyone can do it, but it's quite a long process.

>>2863448
I'd use RCA and then just pop some BNC adapters on the back of the PVM. Alternately, I guess one could always just put BNC jacks on the back of a console. Those are pretty big though.

>>2863387
Just gonna make sure. This is a PAL wii, right?

NTSC wii's only output YPbPr component.

Also, if you are NTSC:
>expecting SCART to not present issues
If you're in PAL land, ignore that as me being an asshole. Your TV's support SCART so I hope you can make it work.

>>2863273
11th time's the charm, you know. But seriously, if you have BNC use it instead of RCA. BNC cables aren't that expensive either. Maybe a little more than generic RCA but at least you're getting coaxial shielding, which is uncommon for RCA cables and which i had to hunt for.

>>2863164
>I just need a 3 component switch for my PS2 gamecube and wii
Check out a used AV receiver. Most seem to have component inputs.

>>2862108
See this for my switching setup. Would love one of those BNC ones, but these work fine for now. If I keep getting more consoles it'll be an investment I have to make.

>>2863251
I like my 20L5 a lot, I just don't think it looks superior to other 800TVL monitors for 240p/480i content.

>>2862989
Sorry, sounded like a response fit for me if I were being a deliberate ass. I didn't think you were the 14L5 guy.

>>2863036
>no, being a pretentious douchebag trying to one-up people every chance you get, that's what is annoying as fuck.
Yes, and I am not one-upping people now, am I?

>>2863121
I am that guy, sorry. Just was avoiding saying anything on that front to TRY to not be a 'pretentious douchebag'. Looks like my mere existence is too much for at least two people here though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 04:34:54 2015 No.2864168 >>2863124 How about audio? Do you have to break RCA out to wires for those little green wire clamps at the bottom?

>>	Undesired Life Sat Dec 19 04:52:59 2015 No.2864174 >>2864167 i meant i want to terminate the multiout plugs, in BNC connectors.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 05:03:39 2015 No.2864184 >>2861974 fuck i live in washington but 2 hours away from there I sold my saturn a year ago, and now i wont have any use for this but i want it

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 10:53:27 2015 No.2864503 File: 2.78 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20151218_204012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Took a load of pics for another thread, thought I'd post one here. Aleste 2 on a MSX2 RGB on a BVM-2010P

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 11:00:45 2015 No.2864514

Hi /vr/

My crt that I used for a hacked wii and a hacked ps2 (I played NES, SNES, PC-Engine, Genesis and PS1 games on them) is broken..
I had it for 15 years.

I am very scared of buying a new crt because of how old they are, as in, repairing them could be more expensive than buying them.

I have a modern PC Monitor that accepts component inputs, but it would stretch the games to 1080p.
And in that case, I think it would be better to just emulate the games on pc with filters and sell my Wii and PS2.

Is buying a PC CRT monitor a good option? 480p isnt that bad for old retro games, and at least I would get PS2, Gamecube and Wii games in their native resolution.
Do you know what I can use to connect component cables to a crt monitor that only accepts VGA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:01:34 2015 No.2864784 >>2863124 Now I need a rackmount.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:57:31 2015 No.2864885 >>2864167 tis a pal wii indeed anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:59:25 2015 No.2864892 >>2864503 this is macarbe

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:10:16 2015 No.2864912 File: 2.77 MB, 853x480, 20151219_175950.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] mixing inputs is fun

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:16:21 2015 No.2864926 >>2864912 The only authentic way of playing classic video games.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:53:11 2015 No.2864975

>>2864514
ANY resolution looks good as long as the video signal is clean.
If you dont want to buy an expensive rgb monitor you can get a pc CRT that usually only do 31khz aka, 480p, and something that converts component to VGA and get some speakers. Do not sell your consoles and games.

As someone who used to emulate wii gc and ps2 games on their high end pc, the ever so often frame rate drop was not really worth it. I've recently collected a few CRTs and component cables for all the systems and any day of the week id pick using the actual hardware over emulating in upscaled 1080p or highter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:54:11 2015 No.2864979 >>2864912 gradius V?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 16:05:40 2015 No.2864995 >>2864975 Some high end PC, no problems for me with the emulators.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:56:45 2015 No.2865328 >>2864912 I'm amazed you managed to sync that. How did you manage to get two signals on one input?

>>	Undesired Life Sat Dec 19 20:44:03 2015 No.2865402 Anyone here have any experience making BNC terminated cables before?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:07:06 2015 No.2865446 >>2864514 I don't think a computer monitor will work with 15hz consoles dude without some serious pass through devices

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:08:53 2015 No.2865452 >>2864892 What do you mean by this?

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:21:17 2015 No.2865470

>>2865446

I know they sell on amazon wii to vga cables that let you use your wii on a pc monitor if you make your wii output at 480p.
A crt monitor can play 480p games in their native resolution.
And I imagine the SNES or Genesis games I play on my wii would look better stretched to 480p with no scanlines than stretched to 1080p.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 21:59:08 2015 No.2865510 http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-PVM-1351Q-TRINITRON-COLOR-VIDEO-MONITOR-/131679719968 should I get this guy to deliver this to me?

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:13:15 2015 No.2865521
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Not much in the TV section of y!aj but the pc monitor section has some okay items.

http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/CRT-%E3%83%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%82%BF-%E5%91%A8%E8%BE%BA%E6%A9%9F%E5%99%A8-%E3%82%B3%E3%83%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF/2084039562/?select=03&fr=auc-prop&tab_ex=commerce&p=CRT

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 22:33:46 2015 No.2865546 >>2865521 Those japanese monitors are sexy. It makes me sad think how many end up in the trash rather than in my room.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 23:29:56 2015 No.2865623 >>2854349 i just have a pvm 14q on one of those shitty folding tv dinner tables im actually quite impressed that it can actually withstand the weight for a year and a half

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 02:27:56 2015 No.2865817 File: 1.01 MB, 2592x1456, WP_20151215_16_00_50_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 02:29:00 2015 No.2865819 File: 1.38 MB, 2592x1456, WP_20151215_22_18_14_Pro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2865817

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 02:30:11 2015 No.2865820 File: 3.98 MB, 4608x3456, DSCN0226.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2865819

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 02:31:22 2015 No.2865824 File: 3.65 MB, 4608x3456, DSCN0247.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2865820

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>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 02:34:02 2015 No.2865827 File: 1.61 MB, 2304x1728, DSCN0258a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2865826

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 02:37:18 2015 No.2865832

>>2865827
It's black & white only, like most viewfinders, but I reckon it's about 300-400TVL - not bad for a 1cm-wide CRT :)

I saw some instructables about doing it, but those all seem to say you can just plug composite video into a single pin somewhere, but this one was a little more complicated, and needed the levels altered slightly and separate sync.

I'm still having some trouble with the image. The very brightest whites appear black, like i'm getting some sort of crush. The diode helped with that, but hasn't fixed the problem entirely. I'm open to ideas if anyone has some?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 03:43:48 2015 No.2865878 >>2865832 Get two. Split the signal from a sms or nes 3d glasses game. Retroculus. No advide for electronics, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 08:53:38 2015 No.2866075 File: 1.50 MB, 2592x1456, IMG_20151220_134704866_HDR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 12:39:07 2015 No.2866316 I have two decent CRT's. First is a Commodore 1080 Mono-sound PC monitor. Tetris Attack through composite.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 12:40:11 2015 No.2866321 File: 41 KB, 600x450, CWr52goU8AAlIcn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2866316 forgot pic

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 12:44:14 2015 No.2866327 File: 35 KB, 599x337, CWOLAC7UEAAdT85.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2866316 Next is a Sony Trinitron Sony Trinitron KV-27FS13 I picked up at a thrift store and cleaned it up. Odin Sphere through component.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 16:14:45 2015 No.2866621

>>2865446
*15khz
>>2865402
Usually termination is done inside the console and television for BNC. If you REALLY don't want to mod your consoles (adding a 75 ohm resistor between the R/G/B channels and ground), then you need to put a box on your cable somewhere to do it. Just run a 75 ohmresistor between the signal and ground.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:15:25 2015 No.2866709 >>2865827 >>2865832 I think I might have an old tape recorder like this too. Really cool project. Wish I was more knowledgeable about electronics.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 17:28:25 2015 No.2866729

Recently picked up a Sony PVM-1342Q at the Goodwill for 13 dollars in pretty good condition. There's some scratches on the cabinet but overall it looks pretty good. Need to get some BNC cables, though I tested it with a rigged cable and my PS2 and it works just fine. Pics later

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 18:32:43 2015 No.2866821

>>2862425

I have that table. You really want to try and get some kind of brace/support under the CRT, and not just the dinky little metal ones the table came with. My CRT's a bit bigger than yours mind you, but my table now has almost an inch/inch and a half sag to it.

>>	Undesired Life Sun Dec 20 19:03:17 2015 No.2866859 >>2866621 You've lost me...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 20:32:38 2015 No.2867012 >tfw can't find any n64 s-video monster cables What are the next best s-video cables for n64?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 20:48:14 2015 No.2867035 >>2866729 Congrats anon, I can't recall the last time I ever got anything worthy from goodwill. I'll be looking for updates.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:01:31 2015 No.2867178 File: 879 KB, 2304x1304, IMG_1488.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] :3

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:02:22 2015 No.2867180 >>2867012 Assuming NTSC until proved incorrect... The official ones?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:08:20 2015 No.2867187 >>2854473 those windows! dont you get glares?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:13:27 2015 No.2867203 >>2861991 fuuuuck dude!! can i come over?

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 22:25:11 2015 No.2867224
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>>2862108
http://www.walmart.com/ip/10652329?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227000018092&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=40330386272&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=78288467912&veh=sem

How does one find if an AV Switcher is good is pic related any good?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 20 23:06:46 2015 No.2867280 >>2867224 All I can say is try it and see? I'm using a similar one to what you posted, but it's an RCA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 01:49:29 2015 No.2867473 >>2867178 >HD CRT Have fun with that lag.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:10:51 2015 No.2867493
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Found my old TV+VCR player hidden in my parents basement.
Tried to hook up my Wii to emulate and got audio but no video, think it might be the AV cable.

Does the Wii emulation channels require the classic controller or can I use the Wiimote?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:35:43 2015 No.2867504 >>2867493 I think you need a gamecube or classic controller for VC, but most emulators should let you use the wiimote. Check Wiibrew's emulator page...?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:50:43 2015 No.2867515 >>2867493 >White in Audio >Red in video Check your inputs m8. If you have a composite cable that should be yellow in Video.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 02:52:50 2015 No.2867520 >>2867504 Most VC games and emulators will adapt to the connected input, as in lone Wiimote or Classic Controller; you'll be massively short on buttons if you do anything other than NES/GBC/MD though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:24:14 2015 No.2867642 >>2867180 Not him, but I'm interested in PAL ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:22:26 2015 No.2867715 File: 18 KB, 683x519, paln64svideog.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2867642 pal cable or console need to be modded

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:46:10 2015 No.2867787

>>2867203
If you don't mdk my wife or toddler, sure.
>>2866821
It was fine with my heavier 27" flat trini. It is an unsettling thought though, a crushed duo r... I'll cut a piece of wood to size and stick it in behind the consoles.
>>2866621
>>2865402
He means making BNC cables, terminate is the technical term ha for ending a cable with a plug.

I only have single BNC cables, 6ft, so I cut them in half. Otherwise It's really no different than any other plug except you need to crimp them. Most solder cups/plugs have instructions on the packet, unless in bulk. Use shielded coax.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:45:13 2015 No.2868405 >>2866621 Since you seem to know about terminating. I've asked in previous threads if it's feasible to mod something that terminates the signal with 75 ohm to not terminate it and pass it on like some PVMs do. It would be handy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:53:49 2015 No.2868419 >>2868405 Not him but removing these 75ohms and using a T adapter for BNC could work. Another way would be to make a distribution amp.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 15:53:19 2015 No.2868496
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>>2864168
switcher guy here. yeah, the green clamps are for stereo. the in3808 supports the use of balanced audio which is not something I'd personally use but great to have.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:23:14 2015 No.2868553 >>2867642 >pal >s-video >when RGB scart is readily available on everything

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 16:28:01 2015 No.2868567 >>2868553 >N64

Undesired Life Mon Dec 21 19:47:54 2015 No.2868869

Looking to purchase a decent VCR but i happened across a VCR/DVD combo unit and had a question. It has component outputs which I figure are mainly for the DVD portion but would it send the VHS signal through them as well? Also would it be worse viewing the VHS that way?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:09:38 2015 No.2868882 File: 1.15 MB, 1920x2560, 20151221_190032.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2866729 >>2867035 Got the pictures. I found a VGA to BNC cable at work today but forgot to take it home, so I can't really show you the picture quality yet.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:10:40 2015 No.2868885

>>2867187
>don't you get glare?
That's what the shades are for.

>>2867224
I use one of those. They're fine. See >>2862108 for mine.

>>2868869
VHS is essentially composite video internally. Most combo units don't do component for VHS and it won't look any better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:10:41 2015 No.2868886 File: 1.08 MB, 1920x2560, 20151221_190107.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2868882 blurry shot of the cabinet

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:12:56 2015 No.2868889
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>>2868886
Shot of the inputs

As far as I can tell, everything functions properly. I've only tested composite and S-Video and they both worked fine. The controls on the front work fine too. The only complaint I've seen of this model is the size, but I actually prefer it to be small because it can fit on a desk anywhere pretty easily. I'm extremely happy with this, and for only 13 dollars!

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:34:03 2015 No.2868917
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>>2868882
>>2868886
>>2868889
Wew.
Great find there. I've got a similar model and it's a fantastic monitor, and provides a great picture at 600 TV lines.
Here's mine which is a 1344Q.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:47:14 2015 No.2868940 >all these zoomed in close up shots CRTs look like dogshit when your camera is right in front of them. Why do you people keep doing this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 20:57:24 2015 No.2868958 File: 3.58 MB, 3839x2624, virtua racing 4mb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Panasonic BT-H1390YN. Game is Virtua Racing on the Genesis/Mega Drive. Got the game for $7 two days ago. It's a REALLY cool game.

>>	Undesired Life Mon Dec 21 21:17:32 2015 No.2868995 >>2868885 I wasnt expecting the picture to look nicer but I was worried that it may produce a worse looking image because its now trying to transcode a composite signal to component internally or something along those lines.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:23:28 2015 No.2869003

>>2868995
If the VCR is outputting component then it is definitely transcoding. VHS tapes use something that is almost but not quite composite. It goes through a couple filters and becomes true composite video. VHS does not store RGB or component or anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 21:33:40 2015 No.2869012 File: 3.80 MB, 4608x3456, popful bth1390yn 4mb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BT-H1390YN popful mail

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:01:22 2015 No.2869036 >>2868958 >>2869012 Another SEGA holdout.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:07:59 2015 No.2869043 File: 3.06 MB, 4608x3456, dq-fami2-4mb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2869036 >Sega holdout Not really. Sorry. I love sega consoles, but only recently got into them. I always had the Nintendo stuff first.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:09:12 2015 No.2869046 >>2868958 Virtua Racing on the Genesis is pretty great. The SVP chip kicks ass. It's nice to play a 16 bit polygonal console game that actually has a decent framerate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:17:00 2015 No.2869061 just got a BVM and there's feint horizontal line that creeps from the bottom of the screen to the top over and over again. at first there was one and now there's two. any idea what it is or what I can do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:19:57 2015 No.2869064 >>2869061 What inputs are you feeding it? does this happen on ALL inputs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:29:52 2015 No.2869080 >>2869064 testing now. didn't know if it was an obvious problem or not

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:41:09 2015 No.2869090

>>2869061
>>2869064
>>2869080
okay, interesting. When I run RGB through BVM 1 and into BVM 2, I get the phantom line on both. When I terminate it at BVM 1, it doesn't appear on that one monitor. Same deal when I run Composite directly into BVM 2 with no pass-through.

that leads me to believe it has to do with the daisy chain. does that make sense?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:44:24 2015 No.2869101 >>2869090 you dont mention what happens if you run RGB straight to bvm #2. Yeah, it sort of makes sense, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 22:51:09 2015 No.2869114 >>2869101 had to do some rearranging. as expected, the issue isn't there for RGB straight into BVM 2

>>	Undesired Life Tue Dec 22 00:18:37 2015 No.2869274 >>2869003 alright thanks for that. I just was debating on buying a really fancy VCR or saving some money and buying a DVD VCR combo i found.

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 22 00:24:00 2015 No.2869280

>>2869003
>>2869274
There is S-VHS, which would hypothetically give you S-Video quality outright, but I don't think there's much in way of content for it.
And just because it's "transcoding" doesn't mean you can't get a potentially nicer picture than a model that only has composite.

Need to figure out why mine was shitting the bed, actually.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:36:23 2015 No.2869372 >>2869280 if its transcoding is higher quality then that set has better composite as well. and almost no one made S-VHS tapes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 01:37:23 2015 No.2869374 >>2869114 I'll fool around with my monitors then. That's weird.

Undesired Life Tue Dec 22 01:40:57 2015 No.2869378

>>2869280
well the VCR i was looking at is a high end S-VHS VCR had s-video out as well so id have that. It also had line out(composite) but its BNC connectors not RCA. Which is irrelevant id be using the S-video out anyway but its 3x the cost of the DVD-VCR combo

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:09:45 2015 No.2869405

>>2869378
That'd still be worth it, sounds like good equipment. And while VCR-DVD combos are more convenient, the s-video and component outputs on them are only connected to the DVD side, and standalone VCRs that can output s-video are comparatively rare.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:28:26 2015 No.2869419 File: 69 KB, 848x960, 1415681443919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2853901 Man where do you guys get your CRT's seriously, I live in the south in central TX and I have had no luck whatsoever.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:37:16 2015 No.2869431

So are HD CRTs worthless? My local thrift store has three 16:9 TVs, two with HDMI and one without. The nicest one seems to be a Trinitron KV-HS420, does anyone know how much input lag there is on this model? I have an SD Trini for 240p already, but I'd like to try out some stuff in 480p and widescreen (Smash, F-Zero GX). I've also read you can turn off the digital scaling with the service menu, is this true? How will my PS3 perform? I don't really have any HD content to watch, only looking to game.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 02:38:19 2015 No.2869432

>>2869419
Just keep checking craigslist or look for video studios or something. I am in DFW and managed to find someone in Oklahoma (I think it was) with an apparently nearly unused NEC XP29 who was able to meet closer to me.

If you don't want to wait, ordering them online is always an option. I ordered an Ikegami on ebay and it arrived in one piece. Should be fine as long as it is packed well.

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 22 02:51:05 2015 No.2869449

>>2869372
>and almost no one made S-VHS tapes.
That's why I said you wouldn't be able to find much in way of content.

>>2869431
>The nicest one seems to be a Trinitron KV-HS420, does anyone know how much input lag there is on this model?
2-3 frames for 240p/480i content, when put up against one of my PVMs.
That was with my older camera. I might take the Wii up stairs in a bit and take a photo or two with the RX100 to see if I can get a more spot on number.
If you're feeding it 480p, it'd likely be lower; Something else I might test(in comparison to the Megaview).

What specific model is it, size wise that is?

And the other two models?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:06:56 2015 No.2869467

>>2869449
It's a 30".

The other sets are Panasonics, I didn't get the model #s of those. One with HDMI and one without, roughly the same size as the Trinitron. I remember the one with HDMI was manufactured in 2005 if it makes any difference. The sets are all $25 and I'm thinking of getting two, most likely the two with HDMI.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:23:56 2015 No.2869479 File: 14 KB, 500x596, 1450522972446.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2869419 Goodwill is where I find plenty, good luck anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:28:46 2015 No.2869481 >>2869467 test em all, Sony will probably be the best but Panasonic's tau sets were pretty high quality too, the one without HDMI probably won't be able to do 720p

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 22 06:37:39 2015 No.2869586 File: 2.75 MB, 1782x906, HS420 Lag Test.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2869449 >>2869467 Correction 480p - 2 frames 240p - 3 frames

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:14:23 2015 No.2869616 >>2867787 >making BNC cables Isn't it just way easier/cheaper to buy decent component RCA cables + bnc adapters?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:16:19 2015 No.2869617 >>2868958 nice, mind getting a closeup of the AM2 logo?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:54:36 2015 No.2869657

>>2869419
I find literally everything at thrift stores. You're bound to find one at a thrift store eventually. Check local auctions too, oodles of stuff at an auction. Goodwill does online auctions too. They can get expensive depending on the item though.

Or, if you're really desperate, drive around on trash day. I bet there's someone throwing out their CRT. It'll probably only be a consumer grade TV but you may get lucky.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:54:51 2015 No.2869658 >>2869616 I like to solder and have the supplies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:20:15 2015 No.2869736 File: 2.41 MB, 2479x3125, IMG_20151222_141257.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] dremcast RGB scart cables arrived today

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:28:00 2015 No.2869750 >>2869736 Where'd you get it from? Does it still do 480p through SCART if your TV supports it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:39:22 2015 No.2869758 >>2869750 It's a cheap chinese cable from ebay. I don't have a 480p CRT to test, sorry anon. Can you even do 480p via RGB SCART?

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 22 09:50:22 2015 No.2869764
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>>2869750
>Does it still do 480p through SCART if your TV supports it?
>cheap chinese cable
Only why you're going to get 240p/480i and 480p over the same Dreamcast cable is if you've got a switch to change which pins are being grounded and even then you'd need a way to get horizontal and vertical sync for the latter, which SCART would have no way to carry.

>>2869758
SCART is just a cable, you could technically use it to carry any type of signal. It isn't a standard thing, but you could use SCART cable to carry 480p RGsB from a PS2 or PS3. Not going to find much that would be able to use such a setup straight up though; Over just a SCART cable that is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:53:17 2015 No.2869768 >>2869764 I just remember trying to use 480p on my hdtv via my PS2's RGB scart cable out of curiosity (I already had component cables) and it not working. Anyone know if super turbo on dremcast is 240p?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:57:08 2015 No.2869771 >>2869764 >Only why you're going to get 240p/480i and 480p over the same Dreamcast cable So is the only way to get anything other than 240i out of a DC by using a VGA box?

Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 22 10:08:05 2015 No.2869778
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>>2869768
Most likely didn't support Sync-on-Green.

>Anyone know if super turbo on dremcast is 240p?
Dreamcast only has a handful of games that support 240p, and that isn't one of them. SFA3 and Third Strike do though; Third Strike does needs patching in order to work over RGB SCART however,

>>2869771
A cheap VGA cable will work as well, or you could mod your system to have a switch and VGA connector on the back of it.

>240i

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:11:46 2015 No.2869785 >>2869750 no, you need vga

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:22:15 2015 No.2869807

>>2869778
>Dreamcast only has a handful of games that support 240p

Bangai-O
Black Matrix
Gunbird 2
Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure
King of Fighters Dream Match 1999
Last Blade 2
Marvel vs Capcom
Princess Maker Collection
Street Fighter 3: Third Strike (with mod)
Street Fighter 3: Double Impact
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Twinkle Star Sprites
NVDev shooters

Also the capcom games usually need you to hold down Hold Start+L on start to activate low res mode (240p)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 10:44:48 2015 No.2869835 >>2869768 It happens. I have a TV that won't take 480p over scart and won't take 480i over component. You'd think they'd just make 1 decoder and share it but apparently that's not how it's done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:05:01 2015 No.2869867 >>2868917 I've got the 1944Q (sibling model) and yeah, they're nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 11:06:18 2015 No.2869869 >>2864118 yeah, got the filename confused. It's Kyra from phantasy star IV.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 12:49:43 2015 No.2870017
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Anyone know how to patch super turbo to run in scart ? , Or do the reviveDC\whatever releases have this done already?

fuck, even if anyone has a link to a patched version that would be SUPER

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:17:27 2015 No.2870314 Dunno if it's the right thread, but what causes the ambient hum/fuzzy noise in old programmes liket this lel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggchpG9V-iY

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 18:16:59 2015 No.2870653 >>2870314 My guess is tape hiss, or poorly grounded studio equipment. If you have a really nice audiophile setup, you can hear tape hiss in a lot of old songs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:24:55 2015 No.2870738 File: 1.09 MB, 3264x2448, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Goodwill test TV is an ultra rare NOA test tv

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 19:49:06 2015 No.2870775 I've heard the 1-chip/mini snes have issues that might make it a bad choice even with the clearer RGB. Is this true or should I stick with my mini?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:05:14 2015 No.2870794 >>2870314 It's normal bro, welcome to analog

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:08:42 2015 No.2870796 >>2870775 if you've got a mini (RGB modded?) why get a 1chip? From what I've read they are both basically the same or at least you can make them the same with modding

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 20:58:15 2015 No.2870858
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>>2864514
I am this guy and I just bought this on amazon (my cousin is on vacations in the USA, he will give it to me when he returns in January)
with this and a PC CRT I should be able to play Gamecube and Wii games in native 480p, right?

http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-107113-Component-YpbPr-Converter/dp/B009GUQYBO

Do you know by chance if the voltage is 110 or 220?

Undesired Life Tue Dec 22 21:15:19 2015 No.2870886

>>2870858
I have one its comes with a 110volt plug since it is sold in the US. I dont know if it has adapter plugs.

If you care at all about straight transcoding i would suggest a different product.
This forces you to use certain predetermined resolutions therefore it scales the image being output to the pc screen.
It also has a handful of picture adjustments, brightness, sharpness, color, contrast, etc.

If you dont mind these things then by all means buy it. Its works as advertised, meaning it will transcode the component to rgbhv(vga)

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Tue Dec 22 21:16:41 2015 No.2870890 >>2870858 >I/P : AC 100-240V Shouldn't give any fucks. No idea what the picture quality will be like though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:54:25 2015 No.2870949 >>2870796 My bad, I worded that wrong. I meant is it worth it to switch from a regular snes to a 1chip or mini, cause i've heard the latter have some issues.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:22:46 2015 No.2870993 >>2870949 From what i've heard and judging by the crappiness of my reg super famicom rgb picture I would say yes, definitely, if you can find one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 23:38:21 2015 No.2871082 >>2870738 That's pretty sweet. What brand is it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 00:34:03 2015 No.2871129 >>2871082 Old Sony Trinitron with RF and Composite.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:09:13 2015 No.2871271

>>2870796
only reason to get a fat snes 1chip is that the mini looks ugly to me personally. They are both 1chip boards though.

>>2870993
having a 1chip SNES and a non-1chip super famicom, I can say the sharpness issue is a little exaggerated. The difference is clearly there, but it's not really too pronounced (at least on my SFC).

>>2870858
sounds right but I can't make guarantees on if that one tries to do scaling or other clever bullshit. Won't work on a real gamecube without the component cables, obviously, though a wii playing gamecube games will work.
>>2870017
Anyone know how to patch super turbo to run in scart?

Jesus fucking christ, SCART is not a signal format. Do you mean 480p RGB? RGB in general? Be specific. And SCART carries composite too so you might mean that for all I know.
Clarify what you mean and I will give a less irritated and more helpful answer, but I need to know what you actually want to do first.
>>2870794
It's not normal, it's probably a ground loop. (didn't watch the video because mobile phone, but I bet that's the problem).
>>2869616
Yes, it is cheaper and it's what I do. But at least he's not spending $20 on a foot of magical SCART cable and another $20/on a BNC breakout for SCART.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:13:12 2015 No.2871276

>>2871271
>having a 1chip SNES and a non-1chip super famicom, I can say the sharpness issue is a little exaggerated. The difference is clearly there, but it's not really too pronounced (at least on my SFC).
I have the same and I agree with you, though I noticed that my Sufami has a less prominent vertical line issue than my 1CHIP does.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 03:59:45 2015 No.2871334 >>2871271 I seem to recall my non-1 chip (at least I don't think it was) having a bit of red bleed, notably the yellow on the SMW title screen text having a bit of red on the edge.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:35:20 2015 No.2871353

>>2871271
Don't get fucking smart.
Of course I meant RGB scart in 240p\480i for my television you fucking sperg, It's common knowledge some dreamcast games need to be patched to run like that.

And no who the fuck would want composite in a CRT thread ?, Anyways I found a version.

Kya !kDashing02 Wed Dec 23 05:07:16 2015 No.2871375

>>2871271
>Jesus fucking christ, SCART is not a signal format. Do you mean 480p RGB? RGB in general? Be specific. And SCART carries composite too so you might mean that for all I know.
>Clarify what you mean and I will give a less irritated and more helpful answer, but I need to know what you actually want to do first.
Well, in a case like this and phrasing like that, there really is only one way to take that.

SCART implies either composite or RGB; Since you're not going to find any game that won't run via composite, it's obviously not that.
They didn't say VGA, so it's not 480p RGB.
And Capcom's offerings for the Dreamcast pretty often had 15khz RGB disabled for whatever reason, possibly not to compete with themselves in via arcade versions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 06:58:30 2015 No.2871454 >>2868889 >>2868917 Congrats anon! Wait until you get rgb/ component. $13 is a steal and a miracle for good will

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 11:47:34 2015 No.2871704

>>2871276
that's strange. on my PVM neither my sufami or 1chip SNES show a vertical bar.

>>2871334
My only red bleed came from.a convergence problem I fixed.

>>2871334
>And no who the fuck would want composite in a CRT thread ?, Anyways I found a version.

the NES at least outputs great composite and there are people who play NES on CRT's.

Don't say SCART when you mean RGB. Say 'RGB' or 'RGB over SCART'.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 11:50:08 2015 No.2871706 >>2871129 I'm suprised it wasn't a SHARP TV like the NES test stations and NES-in-TV combo units used.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 12:06:34 2015 No.2871740 >>2871704 I will have to double check and take photos because I believe the bleed was linked to the console and not the monitor.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 15:35:55 2015 No.2871898

Hey guys, I'm new to /CRT/, so I need a bit of schooling.

What is the point of scanlines? My Wii's NES and SNES emulators give me the option to play using scanlines; is this necessary if I'm already playing on a CRT?

Also, I'm moving from NTSC to PAL region. Will I be able to bring my Wii there to use with a PAL CRT? Is there anything I would have to do to make the two compatible?

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 15:44:16 2015 No.2871917

Finally received the angled bncs for my bvm, so I could make a scart-bnc cable
damn it, even at 14", those thing are sweet. Only thing now is waiting for 75Ω terminators as the PS2, MD and NES overload the screen on white screens. Strangely, the SNES is fine.
I wish I had more space to have a desk to put it on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 15:46:30 2015 No.2871920 ff7 is super dark in rgb mode i often find myself switching back to composite mode (tv takes composite and scart via same port and cable carries both) to see what im doing

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 16:25:27 2015 No.2872019

>>2871706
The set looks early 90s to me.
I think NOA got these for cheap or free.

>>2871898
>What is the point of scanlines? My Wii's NES and SNES emulators give me the option to play using scanlines
Because the original consoles did output scanlines aka non-interlaced.

>Will I be able to bring my Wii there to use with a PAL CRT?
NTSC composite or S-Video will likely not work, 60hz shouldn't be a issue unless you get something from 80s or older.
With component you could get very decent picture but you may need to convert that to SCART RGB or you get a CRT with component inputs/support.

>>2871920
That RGB (via SCART) appears darker than composite or S-Video is normal.
Increasing the contrast setting would be the most simple method, unless you're intend to use composite.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 16:36:27 2015 No.2872035

Some local guy is selling a good condition PVM-14L2 for $250 CAD (about $180 USD). I offered him $125 CAD/90 USD for it to see what he says. What's the highest I should go? Anything PVM is getting extremely hard to find in Canada.

I ideally want a 19-25" but will settle for the 14" for now.

Are there any other professional monitors comparable tot he PVM/BVM series? I know there's the olympus medical monitors (rebranded pvms), what about the panasonic models?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 16:38:10 2015 No.2872037 >>2872035 Also forgot to mention the NEC ones, been looking for the XM line but they are even rarer than PVM/BVMs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:05:23 2015 No.2872090 >>2872019 cant get the universal remote to work, and the apps only control volume sadly i dont want to spend 20e on a remote on a TV i got for free anyways its only ff7 that i've had this problem with

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:48:42 2015 No.2872170 >>2872035 Honestly? At the rate that pvms go I wouldn't pay more than $150 for that. But since you're in Canada and its harder to get them and screw shipping, maybe live a little more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:53:09 2015 No.2872181 >>2872035 Where in Canada? I get pvm's and other broadcast monitors on the regular here in the GTA

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:01:33 2015 No.2872198

>>2872170
$150 USD?

I'm really temped to get it since PVMs are like impossible to find here. Only about 5/121 of the ebay listings are for Canada and of those, only 1 of them are appropriate (14" or higher with RGB/Component). I'm really interested in that one listing because as luck would have it, it's a 5 minute drive from me and I wouldn't have to pay or deal with shipping.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:02:35 2015 No.2872203 >>2872181 I'm in the GTA as well. Could you lead me in the right direction?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 18:53:31 2015 No.2872279 >>2872203 I just check kijiji once on a while, there's one on there for $50 a 13" on London

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 19:04:05 2015 No.2872291

>>2872279
In*

just checked that ebay listing, if you're in Oshawa driving to london might not be worth it. Try to get in contact with the ebay seller and have him sell it outside of ebay since ebay and paypal take 14%, he might be whiling to give you a better deal.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 19:13:37 2015 No.2872305

>>2872279
The one in london is a 1342Q, has RGB but I don't think it accepts YPbPr component. Not necessarily a dealbreaker but I would prefer one with component.

I'm downtown TO currently but have family in whitby/oshawa, so around those locations are ideal.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 19:36:58 2015 No.2872346

>>2871898
many euro tv will accept ntsc through composite / svideo / component sockets if they have one.
Crt tvs with component inputs in europe are fairly rare tho, and most of them are widescreen, and/or 100hz. Most of them do accept 480p.
Your US Wii can output composite, svideo and component.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:18:15 2015 No.2872418

>>2872346
Just a side note about the Wii: Many people claim US Wiis cannot output RGB and it is only a feature of PAL Wiis. However, apparently there is no difference in hardware and the only thing preventing US Wii consoles from outputting RGB is software based. Apparently if you have a softmodded Wii you can set your console region to Europe and Wii scart cables will work on them.

Has anyone tried this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:20:59 2015 No.2872423 >>2872418 This is a load of shit. You don't even have to do that. It works just fine, there was just never a cable sold in the US. Import away and have fun. But the HDMI adapter gives the best picture quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:27:23 2015 No.2872430 >>2872423 The HDMI adapter and subsequently HDTV set you would have to plug it into both add lag. Not a huge issue for some people but games that require frame accurate play (such as smash bros iterations) become unplayable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:33:01 2015 No.2872436 >>2872430 It has less lag than any other pay method when plugged into an HDTV because it bypasses the tvs scaler. Hell that's the setup they used at EVO for the wii.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:34:45 2015 No.2872437 >>2872423 Why wouldn't you just use component for 480p? a $20 upscaler/adc is always going to be shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:36:06 2015 No.2872438 >>2872437 See my above post explaining.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:36:19 2015 No.2872440

>Discussion of video processing and scaling devices is okay
With that in mind, does anyone know anything about Sony's LCD broadcast monitors? I have a LMD-2110W on the way that I bought cheap on a whim, as far as the the seller was concerned its just another pc monitor to dispose of.

The manual explicitly states you can choose line doubling for the purpose of checking line flicker on interlaced, which I take to mean won't try to force odds and evens on 240p.

I actually have a 14 inch PVM with HR tube, so I'm quite curious to see how the modern replacement compares.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:41:29 2015 No.2872448

>>2872436
It will only bypass the scaler if the TV or screens native resolution is 480p. Yes the lag might be less but most HDTVs do additional processing that you can't necessarily disable. Most CRT HDTVs will still have lag.

You can achieve very low lag (0.25-0.50 frames) if you use the HDMI adapter and you use one of the low response time gaming monitors like the BENQ/ASUS, but this cost like 200-300+ dollars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:43:59 2015 No.2872450 >>2872448 The scaler outputs 720 or 1080 so you can set it to your sets native. It upscales a 480 input using nn so its very fast. If you havent used it I highly recommend it.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 20:52:47 2015 No.2872462

>>2872450
I have two of them, including the Sewell 480p one which I was referring to (the 'lagless' one which is about 2-4 ms with a gaming monitor, iirc). Apparently the 720/1080 one adds more lag, as much as 14-30+ ms or something like that by itself not even counting monitor lag/response time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:11:58 2015 No.2872578 File: 1022 KB, 312x205, 1404759538860.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Features/brands/models to look for when buying a CRT? I'm in the US if that matters.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:20:07 2015 No.2872586 >>2872578 black sonys with at least svideo in silver sonys if they're not widescreen, and sd/480i only. Some of them have component in.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:27:28 2015 No.2872596 >>2872578 sony trinitrons. you might need to fix the geometry if it's a flatscreen. avoid anything about 240p/480i. for RGB monitors, PVM, BVM and NEC are all good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:37:00 2015 No.2872602 >>2872596 trinitrons are too expensive

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:39:45 2015 No.2872608

>>2872578
Any kind of professional broadcast monitor from Sony (PVM/BVM line) or things like Nec XM series, but you will likely have to pay a premium for these. Look for ones that support RGB/Component/S-video.

A best alternative to those are SD Trinitrons
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FD_Trinitron/WEGA).). The advantage to these is that they were consumer models so they are readily available freely/cheaply and people literally throw them out.

In the WEGA Trinitrons, any models that are 'Hi-Scan'/HDMI/DVI you DO NOT want. If you can you want to look for KV-XXFV310 or KV-XXFV300 or models in the 300-series as those are the best models in that line (XX being the size in inches). Generally you want to stick to 20-27" as anything larger is not only impractical but will have screen geometry issues

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:42:28 2015 No.2872612

>>2872602
They aren't expensive, in fact they are literally free most of the time, and you shouldn't spend more than $5-30 for one if you do pay. I live in an apartment building and there's an electronic recycling room downstairs, and there are 3 good quality ones in there right now. On craigslist there will be dozens unless you live in the middle of nowhere.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 23:07:36 2015 No.2872648 I have a kv-32FV15 wega, anyone know how to get to the service menu?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 23:09:26 2015 No.2872650 >>2872648 Look for a pdf manual/service manual online

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 23:30:14 2015 No.2872682 >>2872423 Given the Wii uses the same pins for S-Video as it does for RGB (and component) please explain to us ignorant plebs how the system decides which video mode to output.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:14:34 2015 No.2872732 So do switches have any quality loss whatsoever? Are the good ones completely 1:1 with what it's supposed to be?

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:46:55 2015 No.2872769

>>2853901
ok here is my problem, any advice or help would be greatly appreciated.

I have a Toshiba tv from 1999 and it works great for NES and SNES. I have been looking into an VGA to RCA converter box to hook my PC and laptop to my tv to play emulators. I'm concerned about any lag because obviously playing a game you need it to be precise.

I'm ignorant to many of the things people discuss on CRT threads but I do really enjoy them and learn alot. I've been looking at VGA to RCA/S-Video converter boxes but there are so many options. Seems like the box is the way to go and you get what you pay for and the wires only are bullshit. I can't afford anything over 75-100 bucks but if that's what it takes I'll wait and buy quality. Just thought I'd ask you guys on here since you are pretty helpful and give good opinions on this kinda stuff. Thanks again for any help.

TL:DR Need a good VGA to RCA converter box for emulation at a reasonable price

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:50:28 2015 No.2872780

>>2872769
This is one I saw on Amazon that had decent reviews for the price, if it's no good for emulating I have no idea. Thanks again.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002PXFJ2O/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?qid=1450933635&sr=8-12&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&keywords=vga+to+rca

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 00:55:55 2015 No.2872784 >>2872608 https://reading.craigslist.org/zip/5364546938.html Just found this on my local free craigslist, is it worth grabbing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:13:28 2015 No.2872796 >>2872784 >https://reading.craigslist.org/zip/5364546938.html >40 inches Yeah, if you have a couple of friends to help and the room for it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:19:30 2015 No.2872805 >>2869479 you lucky bastard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:20:47 2015 No.2872806 >>2869657 Yeah that seems to be the best bet is auctions, never been to one honestly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:32:33 2015 No.2872816 >>2869432 Damn that sounds like a good find, I just need to keep looking I guess.

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:35:17 2015 No.2872817

>>2872796
No for a number of reasons:

a) Its big an heavy as fuck, larger than it looks in the photo and no one wants to lift that. I can assure you that you don't want to have it on your place. A 40" CRT will weigh in excess of 300-350+ lbs.

b) Large CRTs generally require more maintenence and have more geometry problems with their display because they are so large. Plus, this picture won't look as sharp compared to a smaller display. It won't look as crisp as something smaller.

c) Look at the wikipedia I linked above, there are no 40" standard-definition WEGAs, meaning it is an HDTV unit and it will lag. It is not appropriate for playing 240p/480i consoles on.

Kya !kDashing02 Thu Dec 24 03:09:32 2015 No.2872882

>>2872448
>and you use one of the low response time gaming monitors like the BENQ/ASUS, but this cost like 200-300+ dollars.
ASUS VH238H for $155 on amazon right now.
DisplayLag puts it at 11ms, so under 1 frame of delay.
There's even an older model (VE228H) for under $130; No idea how that one actually looks though.
>>2872648
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dkgax7w5ocoth10 for a more complete manual, but for slightly newer models of the same line.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/t026a2083xz14d3 for one specific to that model, but only really seems to have service menu information and schematics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 04:30:19 2015 No.2872940 >>2872882 kya-senpai, can the new thread OP be retro-"moe" like this one's? The Curious Rami pic has been really easy to find in the catalog, it's great

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 06:52:04 2015 No.2873035 >>2872940 you know you can sticky threads according to keywords in the catalog

>>	Kya !kDashing02 Thu Dec 24 08:45:46 2015 No.2873107 >>2873035 Or just leave them open endlessly. New Thread: >>2873091 >>2873091

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:02:47 2015 No.2873167 >>2872882 Well, the BENQ ones are still better and they are a lot more expensive in parts of the world that aren't USA.

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