Valkyrie Profile

[Anonymous No.2835116]

Hey /vr/, I just played through this and I absolutely loved it. I never played anything like it

Training characters to eventually turn them into a crafting currency, pretty much everything being optional, challenging platforming and puzzles in the hard mode dungeons, COOL AS FUCK BATTLE SYSTEM

The battle system really is deceptively simple, but actually practicing and timing your juggles out and maximizing damage is such a huge benefit. I really like how skillfully timing your moves gives more exp than just button mashing.

Anyone else play this? Whadja think about it?

[Anonymous No.2835125]

I don't know shit about these games beyond that Yoh & Kou Yoshinari did art for them but your description got me interested. I'm generally interested in JRPGs with fun gameplay that aren't entirely driven by things that other genres do better.

Every time someone says "this game has bad gameplay but look past that and enjoy the story" I fucking tune out and yet every time someone praises the gameplay in a JRPG I get interested.

[Anonymous No.2835143]

>>2835125
Ha, I'd actually say it's pretty opposite of that. Almost all of the story and cutscenes come in what are essentially short stories of how characters end up dying.

It almost feels like a semi open world dungeon crawler or something. Very few of the areas you go to are really related to the story

Combat is kinda like xenogears, but each button represents a party member and everyone can attack at once. The skillful part of it comes from timing your attacks just right so you can juggle the enemy which causes them to drop gems that give percentage exp increase at the end of the encounter.

The game as a whole just feels so unique

[Anonymous No.2835148]

>>2835143
Yeah I'm gonna add this to my list of JRPGs to play, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2835201]

>>2835116
I don't want to sound like an hysterical fanboy but this is probably the best RPG i ever played.
The gameplay is indeed complex enough to reward your good management with efficiency in battle, and simple enough not to lost you or bore you. Also, in a JRPG way, there is always skills and combo you can miss on your first playthrough.
The story is fantastic, dramatic in it's own very particular way. It feels more like a play than a movie.
Dungeon exploration is fun as fuck, challenging but not dumb-hard (except for that ONE hard mode dungeon).
Every character is really unique and has a taste, so you develop a clear bond with some and others you will reallydislike and get rid of in joy (which means even if you don't like them, they "exist", there is no" meh" boring characters).
Everything is correctly fitting the Northern Mythology theme, the world is filled with details and stories. In my last playthrough is delved into the stories of your Einjenhar fighting the ragnarok after you send them up, and was amazed by the content these japs wrote just for players like me who just want to read stories ! Who does that nowadays ?

And don't frown on Valkyries Profile 2 : it is REALLY different, its gameplay is more complex and subtle, but it's a great game. Not on par with the first, but still better than many many games.

[Anonymous No.2835317]

>>2835116
VP is probably Tri-Ace's Magnum Opus, there's really nothing else one should say about it.

There's nothing I could say against the game, even the terrible american VA was so bad it was actually good, and even then I like some characters more in the american VA, like Lorenta. It had everything you'd want from a JRPG, new, actually innovating and original mechanics, a large cast of characters with a lot of charm, decent story, good music, good dungeons, great graphics and non linearity too.

It's really a 10/10 game that hasn't lost any potential even today, far better than most other big name RPGs back then.

>mfw first time COME TO ME DARK WARRIORS, BATTLE AWAITS US!

[Anonymous No.2835320]

All I have to add is that Motoi Sakuraba's best soundtrack is probably for this game. So much gold.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJQy48G0kU0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzWIWbHW-x0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WACT478ehho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2QDOHeWyPI

[Anonymous No.2836537]

>>2835116
Hard mode with Seraphic Gate? If not, go back to playing.

[Anonymous No.2836540]

>>2836537
I did true ending route, but now I'm playing through an earlier save

[Anonymous No.2836547]

>>2835201
I want to suck platinas feet so bad right now!

[Anonymous No.2836576]

>>2835116
The game a masterpiece. The only thing wrong with it is that grueling opening sequence.

[Anonymous No.2836585]

OK, so say I thought the story was unappealing and also never thought much of Star Ocean- should I still give this series a go?

[Anonymous No.2836625]

>>2836585
First one is really great, incredibly unique and fun. Second one is mehish. Removed a lot of the more interesting parts of the first one

[Anonymous No.2836669]

>>2835116
My favorite jrpg ever. I love everything about this game. The music, story, voices, the art is so wonderful! VK and FFT are the reason that PSX is my favorite console

[Anonymous No.2836920]

>>2836625
>First one is really great, incredibly unique and fun
is it worth getting on the psp?

[Anonymous No.2836959]

>>2836920
I haven't played that version but based on the brief research i did it'd say yeah. It lacks a few quality of life UI things but otherwise it's practically the same

[Anonymous No.2836960]

>>2836959
that's good. i've only ever heard of this series by name so i have no idea what to expect.

just looking for great rpgs to try

[Anonymous No.2837318]

>>2836625
I you think the second one is mehish, you should play it again because you missed something.
The second one is brillant, but you must not expect a "Valkyrie Profile 1 : 2". It's a different game, with a different feeling and construction.
The story is far better is 2 than 1 imho, but the Einjenhar are far less interesting, because they are not centric.

[Anonymous No.2837324]

Do I need a guide for this game if I want a 100% playthrough?

[Anonymous No.2837335]

>>2837324
YES

[Anonymous No.2837395]

One of my favorite gamesnif all time. It's a shame about some characters being useless later on, because they're all interesting.
Never really played the other ones though. Silmeria just seemed so different. Even the PSP remaster i didn't played, i thought the cutscenes might seem weird.

[Anonymous No.2839126]

>>2837318
I dunno man. One of the reasons I like vp1 so much is because so much of it feels so unique to it.

A large part of vp2 was just dicking around from dungeon to dungeon object reading for the dragon orb with no choice in where to go; got super boring for me.

[Anonymous No.2840502]

I'm going to play this for the first time, PS1 version. Should I start on hard, even though I won't be gunning for the true ending for the first playthrough?

[Anonymous No.2840584]

>>2835125
You think Lezard ever hot glued the statue?

[Anonymous No.2841467]

>>2840502
Yeah, hard unlocks some of the characters and new dungeons. It's also easier.

[Anonymous No.2841675]

>>2841467
>It's also easier.
what

[Anonymous No.2842301]

>>2841675
not that guy, but some of the best items and characters in the game are only available in hard mode.

it's not that the enemies are more difficult, really the only extra challenge is that you get all characters at lvl 1. if you want the full game, though, play on hard

[Anonymous No.2843315]

>>2842301
>the only extra challenge is that you get all characters at lvl 1

But that's one of the things that makes it easy.
Just chuck on that accessory that gives extra cp on level up and max out all your skills.

[Anonymous No.2843354]

>>2839126
going from dungeon to dungeon to villages without much choice is what you do in VP1 as well, except the few 2 or 3 time/chapter when you can go grind a bit or explore Brahms castle.
VP2 is more story driven, it's more of a journey

[Anonymous No.2844419]

>>2836576
It was fun the first time though, it really set the mood of Lenneth's role. But on replays I could see it getting old, and VP is a game that lends itself to multiple plays. It's probably best to keep a save that begins at the first dungeon, or maybe even after it since it's super tutorial-y.

[Anonymous No.2844536]

How is emulating this game? I've wanted to play this for a long time, but I don't want to drop the autistic amount of money people want for used copies.

[Anonymous No.2844657]

>>2844536
you can get it on psp for cheap

[Anonymous No.2844754]

>>2844419
I have a hard mode and an easy mode save just after in the first dungeon for all subsequent playthroughs.

[Anonymous No.2844759]

>>2844536
emulating it was perfect for me

[Anonymous No.2844882]

>>2844536
I emulate it on Android epsxe and I am playing the first dungeon and the game is working fine. Tried emulate the PSX version on PSP ( I don't like the PSP version) but the game didn't work.

[Anonymous No.2844946]

>>2843315
>Just chuck on that accessory that gives extra cp on level up and max out all your skills.
that is a good point. although by the end of the game i had run seriously short on my exp orb, but i guess it's not an issue.

[Anonymous No.2844996]

>>2835116
>VP3 Hrist never
Seriously tri-ace, stop making new IP shit and just give me VP3.

[Anonymous No.2844998]

>>2844996
wish granted

einherjar are now $2.99 dlc each

[Anonymous No.2845003]

>you will never be Lenneth

[Anonymous No.2845032]

>>2844998
Yea that's the thing I fear when games are released nowadays.
I'm fully expecting ff7remake to be complete shit.
>lol multipart game

[Anonymous No.2845145]

>>2835116
My favorite game ever, bar none. I always worry about overhyping it, but I don't think expectations can be too high. The sequel was not as good imo, but still an enjoyable game. Completely agree with >>2835201

>>2835317
>It shall be engraved upon your soul!

>>2844996
It would be shit, just like Third Birthday was for Parasite Eve. I'd still buy it, of course.

[Anonymous No.2845939]

If you have Lenneth using a bow, do you still put her in the front of the battle formation? Or do you put her off to the side and keep Arngrim in front instead?

[Anonymous No.2846001]

>>2845939
do people in the front get attacked more often than people on the sides? i never picked up on that

[Anonymous No.2846210]

>>2845145
>It would be shit, just like Third Birthday was for Parasite Eve. I'd still buy it, of course.
That's cause square-enix has been shit ever since they stopped being squaresoft.
Tri-ace hasn't gone that far down YET, although with the current way the game industry is, any future games may be shit.

[Anonymous No.2846713]

>>2844759
Which emulator did you use? Or which one would others recommend?

[Anonymous No.2847023]

>>2846713
I used ePSXe 1.9.25 with pete's opengl2 driver 2.9, which came with the emulator download

Here are the settings I used to playthrough the whole game

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.9
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
GFX card: AMD Radeon R9 200 Series

Resolution/Color:
- 1920x1080 Fullscreen - NO desktop changing
- Internal X resolution: 2
- Internal Y resolution: 3
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off
- No render-to-texture: W

- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 2
- TexWin pixel shader: off
- VRam size: 512 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: off
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: 200.0

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 0
- Framebuffer effects: 0
- Framebuffer uploads: 1

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Mdec filter: off
- Screen filtering: on
- Shader effects: 0/1
- Flicker-fix border size: 0
- GF4/XP crash fix: off
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

[gamer_girl No.2847026]

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[Anonymous No.2847357]

Finished downloading this yesterday, what do I need to know before I start?

[Anonymous No.2847810]

>>2847357
first, look up how to get the 'a' ending if you want a satisfying end to the story. then other endings are very very underwhelming and the game basically tells you there's a secret ending at the end and you should try to see it. it's retardedly hidden, so i really suggest looking up how to get it

the game doesn't really tell you how to do a lot of shit, but it basically works like this

the way you get items is either by finding them or creating them

you can create items like weapons, armor, and potions from the menu under 'divine item'. divining items costs 'materialization points' or mp. materialization points are given to you at the end of a chapter and are based on what character(s) you transferred during the chapter

you transfer characters from the menu as well. transferring a character makes that character unavailible till the end of the game. you'll get instructions on what kind of stats you should give to a character you transfer at the start of a new chapter.

when a character levels up you get a standard boost in some stats like strength and intelligence and hp and you also get 'capacity points' or cp. you spend cp under the skills section in the menu. you can also spend cp to level up 'traits' which raises a characters 'hero value' which affects the number of mp you get when you transfer a char.

also you can change the order of attacks a char uses under the ability section in the menu. this is also how you select different spells for magic users.

there's other mechanics n shit in the game too but these are the ones that i didn't immediately understand on my first playthrough

[Anonymous No.2847813]

>>2847357
oh yeah and don't transfer lawfer, he's the shit

[Anonymous No.2848159]

>>2847813
>tfw your party is Lawfer and Aelia

[Anonymous No.2848170]

>>2848159
>lawfer's triple poke attack and aelia's 5 hit thrust attack

[Anonymous No.2848190]

>>2847357
There used to be a time when people would just play video games. At least, they would wait until they got stuck before resorting to using a guide. Nowadays, people are so afraid of encountering an obstacle in a video game they have to immediately run to the Internet BEFORE THEY EVEN PLAY THE GAME to beg for help and advice.

[Anonymous No.2848197]

>>2848190
chill out guy, he just wanted a few advices to be compfy. not everyone want to play games like you do.

[Anonymous No.2848207]

>>2848190
Autism speaks.

[Anonymous No.2848249]

>>2848190
i'm so sorry you never had any friends to talk about videogames with growing up

[Anonymous No.2848816]

>>2846001
I have no idea. I've played through the game several times and I never bothered to really pay attention to that.

[Anonymous No.2848818]

>>2847357
Never send the Artifacts at the end of dungeons. Don't send them to Odin. Keep everything.

[Anonymous No.2850730]

Wasn't there some game where Lenneth was an optional post-game boss, and she had cat ears or some shit like that? Or am I making things up

[Anonymous No.2850916]

>>2848190
To be fair you need to know what you're doing in order to get the best end in VP1. The requirements are quite specific.

[Anonymous No.2851017]

>>2850730

She (and Freya) were post-game super bosses in Star Ocean 3. They were both chibis.

[Anonymous No.2851061]

>>2845003
>You will never fuck Lenneth.

[Anonymous No.2851112]

>>2850730
Radiata Stories. That game sucks though.

[Anonymous No.2851125]

a best

Valkyrie Profile 2 had better battles and dungeons, but less weird charm.

If they make a new game, I want to fly above a proper open world as a valkyrie with my feather hat, long hair and pretty dress!

Wonder why we couldn't fly in the dungeons...

[Anonymous No.2851810]

The only real negative I find with this game is how bullshit the requirements are to get the real ending, especially when the alternatives are really bland.

Would it even be possible to achieve without knowing exactly what to do?

[Anonymous No.2853350]

>>2851810
>Would it even be possible to achieve without knowing exactly what to do?

There are people out there on the internet who claim they figured out how to get the good ending without a FAQ/walkthrough. They claim it's "easy" and "obvious" to anyone who's paying attention to the story.

They're lying, naturally.

[Anonymous No.2853756]

>>2851112
you sucks though.

[Anonymous No.2853758]

>>2851125
Whe flying you are in God Form, not affected by Midgard and it's weird stuff like gravity, collision, cause and effect...

[Anonymous No.2853929]

>>2851112
I just watched a video of the Valkyrie fight in Radiata Stories... the voice acting alone makes me never want to play it.

[Anonymous No.2854000]

I tried to start playing it three times already, but I always stop about half-an-hour in... because it seems too boring?

[Anonymous No.2854025]

>>2847813
By Lawfer, you certainly mean Belenus, aka the guy with the fucking best combo synergies with pretty much every character in the game.

[Anonymous No.2854268]

>>2854025
No he meant Law-"I will just fuck your shit up"-fer, best spear user in the whole game.
>high as fuck damage
>combos build up fast
>high damaging finishing strike
Guy is way stronger than Arngrim.
Lenneth, Arngrim, Lawfer and Mystina is the strongest non-post game party.

[Anonymous No.2854329]

>>2854268
Arngrim is babby mode

[Anonymous No.2855307]

>>2854000
The first couple hours are a fucking chore. After that, everything speeds up and it becomes awesome. Hang in there.

[Anonymous No.2855961]

>>2854025
Belenus is the best sword user in the game due to his amazing combo but Lawfer has better charge potential and slightly higher damage until you get to the Seraphic Gate when Belenus gets better damage potential.
>inb4 Arngrim
Arngrim's combo is garbage, he has more or less the same damage potential as Belenus but he shines in the opposite field, his PWS charges up 80%, which I guess becomes the best PWS in the game to use as third link but Belenus has a way better combo and his PWS is devastating when used last but only charges up 30% of your bar, Belenus is probably the best heavy hitter in the game together with Lenneth/Freiya/Brahms but a few people have slightly better normal attacks and better PWS charge values.

[Anonymous No.2858306]

>decide to do a proper playthrough of this game
>get through the first dungeon
>beat the boss
>go to save
>game freezes on me and emulator shits the bed

Thanks Obama.

[Anonymous No.2858467]

>>2858306
get yourself a modified ps2 for christmas

[Anonymous No.2860887]

>>2851112
fight me fucker

[Anonymous No.2863416]

>>2835201

I really hate how VP2 ruined the story of VP1

[Anonymous No.2864101]

FEEL MY WRATH

FINISHING STRIKE
EXTREME VOID

[Anonymous No.2864106]

>>2847357
put a bow on valkyrie, her sword combo is eh

[Anonymous No.2864172]

>>2863416
what ?
how ?

[Anonymous No.2864176]

>>2864172
He's probably talking about the fusion dance and all the god murdering at the end, which would chronologically take place before VP1 because of time travel nonsense. I could never buy VP1's end though, since why would you suddenly care about someone that when you were given the chance to run away with them, you instead chose to let yourself get poisoned to death.

[Anonymous No.2864191]

>>2864101
Oh do shut up and go cry a river about DESTINY and shit in Asgard where I sent you.

[Anonymous No.2864983]

YOU HAVE TEN SECONDS TO TELL EVERYONE WHICH MAGE YOU USE MOST (BEFORE THE SERAPHIC GATE)

Yumei

[Anonymous No.2865013]

>>2864983
Lorenta

[Anonymous No.2865920]

>>2851810
I'm sure with enough time and patience someone could notice the existence of the seal value and do enough experimentation to figure out how to manipulate it. The other requirements aren't too difficult to work out, at least in comparison to that one.

People apparently managed to work put how to get all of Wizardry 4's endings for themselves, and that's probably just as difficult if not more so.

>>2864983
Nanami.

[Anonymous No.2866542]

>>2835116
>Search for VP doujins
>Tentacle rape everywhere
WTF, Nipshon.

[Anonymous No.2867592]

>>2864983
Lyseria

[Anonymous No.2867678]

>>2867592
Best VP christmas cake right there.

Really liked her little story and her design is pretty ballin'.

[Anonymous No.2867690]

>>2867592
>>2865920
>>2865013
Mystina for the win
And by win I mean BIG MAGIC everyfucking turn, poison fucking blow eveything, Bloodbane one turn win

[Anonymous No.2867717]

>>2867690
If only she'd learn to LOCK HER FUCKING ROOM WITH MAGIC when she goes spirit walking.

[Anonymous No.2867725]

>>2867717
Oh come on, you gotta trust your friends now, don't you?

[Anonymous No.2867737]

>>2867725
Didn't remember those sprites looking so bad.

[Anonymous No.2867886]

>>2867592
>>2865013
These characters don't even show up until like chapter 7...

[Anonymous No.2867897]

Sold me

I know timing has always been a big part of vidya since 8-bit or earlier but I'm liking how some games value good player skill recently like the Souls series and I missed a lot of 32-bit games so I'm going through them on my PSP

[Anonymous No.2868145]

>>2867725

I didn't realize Enix translations were so shitty. Dropped.

[Anonymous No.2868160]

>>2868145
VP's translation is pretty weird, on one hand they got lots of strange things like the spell chants right, on the other hand they added or changed a lot of stuff of the original script and even battle clips, Badrach being the worst offender due to not only having a bad translation in general but also being targeted by censorship due to some of his victory lines mentioning cigarettes. One of his victory lines is iirc, "おい、 だれがタバコくれあ~", which has been changed into something obviously completely unrelated to cigarettes.
But yeah, translations have always been bad 90% of the times, VP is no exception.

[Anonymous No.2868324]

>>2868160
>can't mention cigarettes in a video game

I can't wait for the day when evangelicals stop ruining everything.

[Anonymous No.2868914]

>>2864983
I'm going to use Nanami AND Jelanda at the same time next time I play.

[Anonymous No.2869350]

>>2848818
Yes. If you pay attention to sending up two good heroes each chapter early on, it is literally, or almost literally, impossible to run out of Evaluation. Even treasures you dislike can be turned into points. Other treasures can be converted into better items even if they seem useless in their initial state.

[Anonymous No.2869360]

>>2868914
>Jelanda

Her fucking name man

[Anonymous No.2870937]

>>2869360
what about it

[Anonymous No.2871620]

>>2868914
>>2869360
>>2870937
her name is fucking
FAYAH STOOOOOOOAAAAH !!!

[Anonymous No.2871994]

>>2864172

time travel, that voided the events of VP1, why didnt they made a true prequel and a part 3 using lezard ambition as theme...

[Anonymous No.2872008]

>>2864176
>since why would you suddenly care about someone that when you were given the chance to run away with them, you instead chose to let yourself get poisoned to death

wasn´t this the intro scene? if i recall correctly Lenneth was chained to live a tragic life every time she was not a valkyrie.

[Anonymous No.2872027]

>>2872008
She dies in the intro scene when running away as a child with Lucian, giving up while Lucian gets away. But when she gets her memories back later, she is madly in love with the dork. I know a JRPG means that there has to be some kind of romance storyline for the main character, but even Lezard was a good match compared to Lucian.

[Anonymous No.2872129]

>>2872027

>she regained her memories

He was the only one who cared for her, also she got all the feelings she got as human and knew how sad the souls she collects really are, i think the whole story revolves around that theme man, also it was lucian who trigger all that by never forgeting about her

>he is a dork

Yeah, i agree, even then i think that pair is great

[Anonymous No.2872194]

>>2872129
I just personally didn't like the way it developed. When it comes to RPGs, I'm more on the side of, "if you aren't going to spend time developing the relationship, don't include the romance".

[Anonymous No.2872208]

>>2871994
No money now.

As much as I like Lezard, I don't think he needs to be that major in the next game since he was the man in the 2nd game.

[Anonymous No.2872498]

>>2871620
what