Dragon Quest

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Dragon Quest Anonymous Mon Nov 23 02:50:24 2015 No.2812727 [Reply] [Original]

What does /vr/ think of the Dragon Quest games?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 04:43:32 2015 No.2812910 File: 216 KB, 796x1200, dq4k01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 06:38:38 2015 No.2813025 >>2812910 whats the joke

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 06:52:13 2015 No.2813035 File: 1.19 MB, 800x1107, dw-12.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2812727 I love them deeply, having played I though IV. They really are the absolute classic JRPGs. The world and NPCs are great too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 07:05:28 2015 No.2813045 >>2812910 >that plain-looking Psaro I knew him being a Sephiroth look-a-like was a DS remake thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 07:10:10 2015 No.2813048 File: 1.38 MB, 2421x3302, necrosaro-03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2813045 Funny how some might claim now that Sephiroth was a Saro rip-off when that's not much the case.

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 07:19:28 2015 No.2813054
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I got introduced not too long ago, having been raised on Final Fantasy. I think I prefer the series a bit more than FF. That said sometimes the humor feels slightly out of place, but I mostly blame cultural stuff for that.

Have played 1-5, and 9. Could never beat 2 though, got way too repetitive and while I enjoy free roam I would've liked SOME direction. 5 may be one of my favorite RPGs of all time though. Same with 9.

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 08:14:58 2015 No.2813091
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Last week or so someone posted this picture on twitter, that he took back he was a kid, of running into 7 metal babbles, because he wanted to prove to his friend that it actually happened.

I've been waiting for a DQ thread to pop up so I could post it. It's some great /vr/ porn, I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 08:52:14 2015 No.2813147 >>2813091 That's adorable. Any idea what year this might have been?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 09:25:36 2015 No.2813190 >>2813147 1988 according to the guy who took the picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 10:45:27 2015 No.2813338 File: 215 KB, 1755x1275, pisaro.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2813045 >him being a Sephiroth look-a-like was a DS remake thing. Nope

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:19:51 2015 No.2813401 >>2812727 It's like going on a vacation. Very slow paced and pretty boring from a gameplay perspective, but very relaxing and long if that's what you're looking for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:22:02 2015 No.2813405 I played through DQ1 a few weeks ago, first NES cart I've beat 100% legit. I had thought about going after DQ2 next, but I'd heard people say it was boring compared to 1 or 3.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:27:26 2015 No.2813424 >>2813405 Its way better then 1

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:29:08 2015 No.2813431 >>2813424 It is? Even if it's more of the same from 1 I'd be alright with that, I'll give it a try once I've worked through my backlog.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:30:14 2015 No.2813437 >>2813431 Well for one there are three playable characters so your inventory isnt fucked to shit like last time

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:31:11 2015 No.2813442 >>2813431 Not him, but every game in the series is better than 1. I think 2 is one of the best in the whole thing. 1 is a neat game, but it's very simple.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 12:13:44 2015 No.2813534 >>2813442 >2 is the best in the series What? >invisible mandatory items >best anything

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 12:24:08 2015 No.2813547 >>2813534 I only really like the first three games. Of them 2 was the most fun for me, despite it's flaws.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 16:15:24 2015 No.2814050 I think the new ones are dated piles of generic garbage that only get praised because of pedigree while any other game that has so much as random battles will get blasted also fuck Akira Toriyama

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 16:28:53 2015 No.2814086

I'm not a fan of the series. I think that the less a JRPG mimics DQ, the better it is likely to be.

That said, I did enjoy the first one. I don't consider it to be a particularly good game, but I had some fun with the exploration and resource management.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 16:52:57 2015 No.2814132 The best game in the series is not retro

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 16:56:52 2015 No.2814141

>>2813401
People throw the word "comfy" around a lot on this board. But the DQ8 games are actually, genuinely comfy for the most part. They have their intense moments, and players can certainly get mad/frustrated at certain bosses or other bullshit situations; but more often than not, they're just pleasant to play through.

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 19:45:32 2015 No.2814502

Just played through the first eight games for the first time this year. SFC versions of I-III, PSX for IV, PS2 for V, DS for VI, 3DS for VII and VIII.

I rather enjoyed the games for the most part. I was honestly nothing special to me, but I imagine I'll enjoy it more now that I'm a fan of the series. II was alright and had some nice improvements, but it was damn cryptic at times. III is what really pulled me into the series, it was great fun all around.

IV was great. Looking forward to another playthrough with female Hero just because and so I can actually use party chat, I kept forgetting about it and didn't use it much. I mostly just remember Manya bitching about caves and Burai complaining about Alena being a hard-head. DQ V was great even though I prefer traditional set party members to catching monsters. DQ VI bored me to tears.

DQ VII was long as fuck but enjoyable. I really liked VII, it's easily one of my favorites.Glad to hear that the 3DS versions of it and VII are getting localized so more people can play them.

I've tried getting into IX a few times but I just can't do it, it just bores me for some reason. Being knocked back down to level 1 and exp being scaled doesn't curry any favor to me either. Not playing X because I don't want to pay the month fee on top of a VPN monthly fee and I'm not much interested in MMOs anyway. Looking forward to XI though.

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 19:47:47 2015 No.2814508

>>2813054

>That said sometimes the humor feels slightly out of place

That's probably the localizations fault. I've never played any Dragon Quests in English but I've watched some videos on many of the games and it seems they often insert humor where there wasn't any before. The localizations in general are pretty awful from what I've see actually, at least the DS games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:17:53 2015 No.2814884 >>2814502 >3DS for VII and VIII. How? Is there a translation patch out there for them? I thought they weren't getting released til way later. . .

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:20:33 2015 No.2814891 >>2814884 I can read 日本語.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:23:17 2015 No.2814896 File: 113 KB, 266x369, Catface fuuka.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2814891 Well fuuuuuck you too, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:26:26 2015 No.2814902 >>2813091 Like it matters. Every last one of them would run away before you could kill even a single one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:54:02 2015 No.2814951 >>2814502 >I really liked VII, it's easily one of my favorites Damn it, meant VIII. >>2814896 At least they have confirmed English localizations now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:56:36 2015 No.2814959 >>2814902 Not with a critical hit, those ignore defense. Pretty much the only way you're going to kill a liquid metal slime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 23 23:59:18 2015 No.2814961 >>2814951 If you're anonymous, why did you correct your likes? Nobody will know the difference after this thread, you know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:03:21 2015 No.2814971 How much grinding is required in DQIV for the nes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:09:08 2015 No.2814978 >>2814132 It's barely retro, because its 7.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:10:19 2015 No.2814982 >>2814961 Because people are still having a conversation, and people can talk with each other despite the anonymous factor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:15:00 2015 No.2814993 >>2814982 I just think it's kinda silly, isn't it? When is your personal like or dislike of VII vs VIII going to come into it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:20:36 2015 No.2814998 >>2814993 It's simply a part of having a conversation. When you misspeak you can correct your mistake.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:26:01 2015 No.2815006 >>2814998 In a conversation, you correct your mistake so that people don't associate that opinion with you, personally. Had you never corrected it, nobody would have noticed, really.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:29:17 2015 No.2815014

>>2814961

Because I can't stand letting errors slide.

>>2814978

Honestly, 2001 should be retro by now. This board is what, two years old at least? But the cut off date is still 1999? The games after 1999 are getting older year by year, the cut off date should be adjusted every year too.

>>2815006

The guy you're talking to isn't me, but his points are valid. Just let it go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:30:51 2015 No.2815016 >>2815014 >but his points are valid. Just let it go. No they're not, he's anonymous, as evidenced by the fact I didn't know it was two of you speaking. I think this only makes my point stronger, really.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:42:19 2015 No.2815035 >>2815016 You have to have some serious autism to argue this much about a guy correcting himself on the internet.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:44:51 2015 No.2815039

>>2815014
To be fair, you can talk about the games after 1999 provided they are on a platform that was released prior to '99. The only real exception to this rule are platforms like PC and Arcades, in which the individual machine or game must be before 1999.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:45:13 2015 No.2815041 >>2815035 Not really. I mean, honestly, it takes more autism to correct yourself on the internet over a typo no one will care about on an anonymous message board. Why not just let the mistake go and only correct it if someone brings it up?

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:49:13 2015 No.2815048

>>2815041

Assuming this thread lasts and someone cares enough to ask me why I like "VII" so much, I'd prefer that the correct information be there so I don't have to correct it later. Maybe you're the kind of guy who prefers dealing with things as they come. That's fine. I prefer dealing with issues before they exist.

>>2815039

Still a bit dumb, honestly, but I'm not going to bitch about it since 4chan stopped making sense a long time ago (and I don't come to this board very often anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:51:20 2015 No.2815050 >>2815048 >That's fine. I prefer dealing with issues before they exist. I guess I can accept that. I just feel its a little silly on here.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:37:59 2015 No.2815104

>>2813405
>had thought about going after DQ2 next, but I'd heard people say it was boring compared to 1 or 3.
It's okay/below average depending on who you ask, the game drags on for far too long and has the worst end game I've seen in a RPG. It's still worth a shot, but don't feel bad if you don't want to complete it, it's considered the worst DQ by many.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:45:21 2015 No.2815119 >>2815048 I want you to know, that I wanted it to be 7. I love 7 and I've noticed that many others seems to consider it somewhere in the middle. I was very excited to see someone else who likes it, and you let me down.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:49:53 2015 No.2815128 >>2815119 Sorry broski. Unfortunate as it is, things can not always be what we desire.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:52:49 2015 No.2815134 >>2815128 Well jokes on you, when the remake comes out I'm going to buy two copies of 7 and then leave the other lying around so I can pretend someone else likes it too. So there.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 01:56:42 2015 No.2815146

>>2815134

Seriously though I liked it a lot better than I expected too. Long as it was, it didn't have too many parts where if felt like it was being stretched thin. It just felt like a very long adventure. The characters were nice too Except Kiefer. I liked him until he decided to abandon his friends, family, and the quest he began for some pussy he'd just met who was already engaged anyway. Fuck you, Kiefer..

Job system was kind of annoying though, at least in the 3DS version. A lot of the higher tier skills don't get carried over when you change jobs when will make you not want to change jobs sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:15:25 2015 No.2815286 >>2813437 you wot m8. DQ1 doesn't have much of an inventory system, you can carry every item in the game at once and your herbs just stack. You cannot run out of space, if that's what you're implying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:25:20 2015 No.2815293 >>2815286 Is that right? I know you can run out of space in the SFC version despite the larger amount of inventory spaces.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:41:12 2015 No.2815314 >>2815293 The remake is a pretty different game in many ways. In the original there are no real inventory slots and weapons and armour do not go into your inventory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:47:20 2015 No.2815315 >>2815314 I need to play the FC version of I eventually. Interested in the original versions of it and III for some reason (though the remakes sound like they're better in pretty much every way).

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:53:31 2015 No.2815320 >>2815315 They've got lots of quality of life improvements but they've also been hit with the babby hammer in the difficulty department. A real man plays the originals with a bad connection to a broken TV.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 04:57:48 2015 No.2815325 >>2815320 I almost played them, but I went with the remakes because they had kanji. Glad I did too, I really enjoyed DQ III SFC, DQ IV PSX, and DQ V PS2 (and DQ VIII 3DS. Sounds like VII 3DS was a lot better than the PSX version as well).

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 06:49:46 2015 No.2815393

>>2815320
The remakes were really made for people who want to nostalgia over them without having to put as much work into playing the games through again. I cringe every time I see them get recommended to people playing DQ for the first time. I'm not trying to be super elitist or anything, but you just aren't getting the true DQ experience if you can't find meaning in the frustration. You might as well just watch an LP video at that point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 07:29:48 2015 No.2815428 7 was too long.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 07:37:51 2015 No.2815438 >>2815119 VII was awesome, though. I especially liked how they made the hero of legend that joins up with you look the way he does instead of some teutonic master race godling.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 07:39:52 2015 No.2815443

>>2815393
That's a horrible thing to say, really. I played DQ V on the SNES, and I played it on the DS, and the DS version blows it out of the water. I love retro games as much as the next guy, but why put someone through the grinder, when the same thing, only improved can be gained with the newer thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 09:10:21 2015 No.2815523 >>2815443 The "everybody gets a trophy" versions of the DQ games are not the same thing as the originals at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 10:32:36 2015 No.2815625 >>2815438 >DQ7 >hero of legend Can you remind me again who the "hero of legend" is in that game? Someone other than the main character, right? It's been forever since I played it.

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 12:43:11 2015 No.2815803

>>2815393
I remember playing the NES version of 3 and walking though the desert to reach the kingdom of Isis. It almost felt endless like I was crossing a fucking desert. The monsters over there where so much stronger, I was running low on resorces and night was about to fall. Just as about to start cursing the game I came across the oasis and rejoiced. Later I played the SFC remake and made it through the desert to Isis in like two minutes and felt nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 12:56:48 2015 No.2815820 >>2815393 >but you just aren't getting the true DQ experience if you can't find meaning in the frustration But what if that doesn't appeal to me at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:01:56 2015 No.2815831 >>2812727 I like the main characters better when they look like not-kid Goku/Gohan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:06:50 2015 No.2815839 >>2815831 So you like the characters when they're drawn by someone other than the series' main artist and character designer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:13:05 2015 No.2815850 >>2814951 I can't wait to see how much the new localizations butcher the script

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:14:33 2015 No.2815851 >>2815839 My "not" was ironic, hence the hyphen. There's just something very charming about Toriyama's chubby 80's style, yet I keep seeing adult, modern versions of them even from Enix itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:53:34 2015 No.2815920 >>2815850 So far we know that Melvin has been changed to Mervyn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 14:03:13 2015 No.2815939 >>2815850 I didn't bother with VIII, but the script in VII was painful to read. Almost anything would be an improvement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 14:06:25 2015 No.2815946 >>2815939 What was wrong with it? From what little I've seen of the English version it was probably the most faithful English translation of DQ (though it seemed like they took more liberties later on). The script seemed sort of dry I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 14:09:04 2015 No.2815951 >>2812727 Too much muh nationalism and nanking lolocaust never happeningsed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 16:14:20 2015 No.2816164 >>2815523 I understand your feelings, but did you ever consider that maybe the originals just simply had unintended mistakes in them that were fixed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 16:31:33 2015 No.2816193 >>2813045 It's funny because since FF7 was released, japaneses usually joke that Sepiroth looks pretty much like a copypaste Psaro They even call him Psaroth

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 13:15:17 2015 No.2817786 >>2815393 >>The remakes were really made for people who want to nostalgia over them without having to put as much work into playing the games through again. Do you have a source on that? Japanese is fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 22:44:00 2015 No.2818724 >>2815625 If I remember correctly the Hero of Legend is an old fart named Melvin.

Anonymous Thu Nov 26 02:50:23 2015 No.2819017

>>2815625
What >>2818724 said. You go to find out this ancient here who was supposed to be the alpha badass of the day of yore, and everyone is hyped for it, since he's supposed to be the coolest thing ever. And then when you finally bring him back or ressurect him, or whatever the fuck you do with him, he's this Cohen the barbarian old fuck and the entire party (especially the female characters) are dumbfounded like "what the fuck" with who you get.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 14:12:10 2015 No.2819627 File: 11 KB, 256x239, 7 Metal Slimes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2813091 Speaking of wat do

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 14:24:51 2015 No.2819643 If I wanted to get into the series, what would be the best way to do so? I find it hard to go back to NES RPGs, so I'm thinking of just skipping the first few.

Anonymous Thu Nov 26 14:31:16 2015 No.2819649

>>2819643

>>2819627 here

I JUST started myself, and beat my first Dragon Quest game maybe 3 or 4 days ago

All of the NES games have been remade, and I can't vouch for all of them, but I can confirm that the first two at least are very playable and actually a lot of fun.

If you're a pirate fag, there's a Super Famicom version of Dragon Quest 1 & 2 (collection pack) that has had the grinding and bullshit toned down considerably, and an english patch to go with it.

If you wanna be legit-as-shit™, there's also the Game Boy Color versions of Dragon Warrior 1 & 2, not too hard to find, and they're basically ports of the Super Famicom remakes.

Either of those are your best bets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 21:43:32 2015 No.2820184 >>2819627 shot web

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 21:59:31 2015 No.2820204 >>2812727 I think that I have very, very fond memories of Dragon Warrior III and Dragon Warrior Monsters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 22:22:10 2015 No.2820229 Which one is the shortest play through? Id emulate off mobile so I want the one with the shortest story.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:23:39 2015 No.2820321 >>2820229 DQ1, by far.

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 26 23:40:04 2015 No.2820356 File: 74 KB, 600x517, 1428090901879.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2820204 Enjoy this Thief as a token of your good taste.

Anonymous Fri Nov 27 00:05:50 2015 No.2820401

>>2819643
>I find it hard to go back to NES RPGs, so I'm thinking of just skipping the first few.

If you find it hard to go back to NES RPGs then Dragon Quest probably isn't for you.
The formula has barely changed from the franchise's inception, simple mechanics, with simplistic stories so even if you decide to skip the NES games that's not going to change anything, hell even the PS2 game still feels like an NES RPG game at heart.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 08:09:16 2015 No.2820810 >>2820356 >Thieves Literally the only reason why purists should give the DQ3 remakes a shot.

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Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:06:44 2015 No.2821728

>Playing through IV right now
>It's fucking awesome
Why is Square ignoring this franchise for the most part in the US? They just now announced VII and VIII on 3DS, even though it's been out in Japan for a while. Why are they dumb? I also want X as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:16:14 2015 No.2821735 >>2821728 Because for whatever reason they think only Final Fantasy titles sell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:22:04 2015 No.2821737 >>2819627 >wat do do the code to rename the 2nd guy to a smaller name so your game won't crash at beran inn during an event later

Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:45:51 2015 No.2821770

>>2821737
Really? Man, that patch is full of game killing bugs. I remember beating the final boss only to be robbed of the ending because I talked to an NPC whose dialogue infinitly looped. To this day I've never finished DQ2 even though I have earned the ending. Well, of the easymode SNES version, at least.

Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:50:32 2015 No.2821773

>>2821728
>Why is Square ignoring this franchise for the most part in the US? They just now announced VII and VIII on 3DS, even though it's been out in Japan for a while.

How are you asking that question and then proving yourself wrong in the very next sentence?

Getting 7 and 8 on 3DS is something fans have been clamouring for since they were first announced for Japan, nobody actually expected them to localize it for English audiences.

We also just got Dragon Quest Heroes Longest Title Imaginable here as well.

How is that 'dumb?' Did you not want them to release them here?

>I also want X as well

Like they would set up a whole whack of new servers for an MMO over three years old.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 21:58:32 2015 No.2821784 Would've been better if they hired a different artist other that Toriyama. Every time I look at Dragon Quest, I think >Dragonball >Dragonball >Dragonball

Anonymous Fri Nov 27 22:23:29 2015 No.2821818

>>2812727

The Dragon Quest games are the reliable comfort food of RPGs. The battle system is always solid, the class system is always great, all the wheels turn pretty efficiently but there is very little experimentation, and though the world has personality the deliberate choice to keep story and characters reined in makes it feel bland eventually.

In comparison to Final Fantasy (the comparison is inevitable), I think it's more the series for people who love grinding and getting into the nitty gritty and battle mechanics and cheesing the system, while FF is more for people who are onboard with RPGs for the crazy stories and cool details and memorable characters and insane twists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 22:25:21 2015 No.2821820 >>2821770 well the text infinite loop at beran inn is caused by the 2nd male party member having a long name. i'd like to know more about that endgame npc if possible. would be great if it was the same solution.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 22:39:15 2015 No.2821838 >>2821820 Probably was the same guy. It was too long ago for me to remember any real details, such as the location of the NPC, I'm afraid. All I know was that I was doing my 'victory lap' and revisiting places after beating the boss, as you do.

Anonymous Fri Nov 27 23:52:49 2015 No.2821935

>>2821737
Is THAT the fucking glitch I ran into!?

FUCK me, that was annoying. I wound up spending like 20 minutes fucking around with renaming files, loading the Japanese rom, completing the quest with Japanese 102 level skills, and then repatching the file, and then after that I lost that "o" at the end of Rolando, but the game remembered his name was 7 characters, so there was always this awkward space right after his name.

>>2821770
AND THEN I RAN INTO THIS FUCKING GLITCH RIGHT HERE HOLY SHIT

>>2821820
>>2821838

The NPC at the end is in the Monolith in Rhone. It's the girl next to the portal. She says "Thank you for saving us descendants of Roto" and then kept repeating that forever. I had to look up the ending on youtube, because FUCK going through that last boss again.

Seriously, that patch is shit tier. I'm gonna look for a copy of DW1&2 for my GBA.

Anonymous Fri Nov 27 23:59:14 2015 No.2821940

>>2821818
For me, the reason why I like DQ over FF so much is just the simplicity of it all. In DQ, the game is very straight forward with you the whole time. Here's a town, here's your gear, here's your quest, get to it. While I enjoy FF's stories more, gameplay wise, it's not very transparent to the player. Most of the secrets in FF I feel were written just to sell the strategy guide.

I mean, seriously

The Zodiac spear? How the FUCK would anyone have figured THAT out on their own?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 27 23:59:48 2015 No.2821941 >>2821784 I spotted the underage who never played Dragon Quest before 1995.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 07:23:14 2015 No.2824502 Elder God Tier: Dragon Quest VII High Tier: Dragon Quest V Mid Tier: Dragon Quest III Dragon Quest VI Dragon Quest VIII Low Tier: Dragon Quest IV Dragon Quest Shit Tier: Dragon Quest II

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 08:05:59 2015 No.2824518 >>2812727 I only played the 1st one on GB, but I loved it. I like short RPGs

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 08:11:42 2015 No.2824524 >>2824502 Bait Tier: Your list

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 10:42:15 2015 No.2824659 >>2824518 >I like short RPGs The first Suikoden is also very short.

Anonymous Sun Nov 29 14:26:28 2015 No.2824956

I bought DQ2 for the android last night for part of their black friday sale. Really liking it but I would have preferred to get 3, but I had to refund it due to the ObbStateCode: 21 glitch. Is there any work around for it? It seems like a much better game.

Anonymous Sun Nov 29 14:53:01 2015 No.2825013
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Dragon Warrior Monsters I and II are so based, replaying II right now with 3DS emu.

Breeding cool shit in this game is so much easier now, what with the internet being more of a thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 22:36:01 2015 No.2825748 >>2824956 Get the GBC version anyways, the GBC version has more stuff in it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 22:56:32 2015 No.2825778 Playing through DQV DS remake right now. Surprised by how feelsy the game is in the story department.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 29 23:32:31 2015 No.2825830 >>2825013 All I wanted was for the DQM1 remake to be localized. Don't get me wrong, I love the original with all my being, but I just wanted to see what they did with higher end hardware. At least VII's coming west. I can settle for that.

Anonymous Sun Nov 29 23:38:29 2015 No.2825838

>>2825013

Hell yeah. My definitive childhood game. Replayed it earlier this year emulated on my PSP. Gonna start a new file with the All Monsters hack just so I can get a Dimensaur.

Sucks it never took off in the West and was generally considered a Pokemon knockoff (which it is, but getting into technicalities, DQ5 started monster-raising and battling years prior to Pokemon).

Still crossing my fingers on the 3DS remakes getting localized.

Anonymous Mon Nov 30 02:32:15 2015 No.2826051

Not really a retro question, but still, the question is for the thread. DVIII 3DS. Is it worth getting? I have a PS2, just not the time to play it at home as much as I would want to. Then again, I heard the 3ds version is pretty gutted when compared to the PS2 version. Is that true?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 04:18:41 2015 No.2826142 >>2826051 It may be gutted in some respects, but it does add new content. Personally, I'm going to get it to see how said new content stacks up. I still have the original as it stands, so it's no loss either way. Go for it, if you're interested.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 30 21:05:46 2015 No.2827404 >>2819627 My prince and princess were also named Rolando and Linda. Are their names supposed to be random? I've never seen anyone calling Moonbrook "Linda".

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 1 11:13:53 2015 No.2828367 Starting Dragon Quest VII. What am I in for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 1 11:22:35 2015 No.2828371 >>2828367 Hope you have fast forward on your emulator

Anonymous Tue Dec 1 11:39:06 2015 No.2828386

>>2821941
Not sure how it is in europe or anything, but north american localizations of DQ (i.e Dragon Warrior) were absolutely stripped of all Toriyama art. So it's not too unreasonable if someone discovered Dragonball before they saw the original artwork for Dragon Quest.

Anonymous Tue Dec 1 12:38:15 2015 No.2828486

I'm playing III right now, what are some recommended job changes for a mage and a cleric? I have a fighter which I'm going to turn into a Sage aside from those two.
Also, will one job change make my party strong enough to beat Divinegon and get the best reawrd?

Anonymous Tue Dec 1 13:37:16 2015 No.2828607

>>2828486
One job change could be enough. However that's dependent on level and stats. Every class change in III sets levels back down to 1 and halves a character's stats. So, if you're wanting a cleric/mage to go physical, learn all their spell lists first and let them accumulate some MP and INT so their spells stay useful. Also, if you're playing SFC/GBC, go Thief for your mage's class change. Speed, and actual MP growth being the reasons.

Anonymous Tue Dec 1 17:11:47 2015 No.2829013

>>2828607
Thanks,levels shouldn't be a problem,because I'm a few hours away from facing Zoma, and my party is in the 40s, and stat gains are practically nothing at this point.
Then I guess I'll take your advice on the Mage-->Thief and turn the Cleric into a Warrior or Fighter.

Anonymous Tue Dec 1 17:19:22 2015 No.2829027

What is everyone's opinion on the series from a technical/balance viewpoint? What I've noticed from playing a few at this point is that there seems to be almost no "game breaking" bugs/glitches/workarounds/cheats, or at least I never see discussions of such compared to other games, especially other rpgs.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 01:34:20 2015 No.2829753

>>2829027
The beauty of DQ for me is exactly that. I can't pick out any particular instance of dumb glitchiness or otherwise insurmountable bullshit. Sometimes allied AI is not terribly useful (Cristo in DWIV NES), but beyond that, everything can either be taken care of with strategy or copious preparation.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 01:38:37 2015 No.2829758

>>2829013
Turn the Cleric into a Fighter. It'll have the speed to cast healing spells before just about everything else, but it won't gain any more MP from levelling up. I imagine your Sage will be your primary healer, but having a Fighter as an emergency backup healer is amazing. Plus, the crit pretty often.

Warrior, on the other hand, would be too slow for a backup healer role, but would be a little more tanky than a fighter.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 03:03:24 2015 No.2829862

I'm playing my first DQ game right now.

DQV, SNES version, playing it on my PSP.
I'm using the byuu translation (It's shit but I'm too lazy to check out the other one). It's a fun game, I've just arrived at Port Selmi.

No real reason why I started with this, except I loved to listen to the OST on Murata's USTREAM vids.

Was that a stupid move on my part?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 04:41:53 2015 No.2830002 >>2829862 >Was that a stupid move on my part? No. It's a good game. If you're liking it so far I see no reason why you won't continue to like it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 18:01:17 2015 No.2831028 >>2829862 The only stupid move was playing the worst version of the game, with the worst translation, on the worst emulation platform.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 22:02:45 2015 No.2831365

>>2831028
>the worst version of the game,
Old = bad? There's nothing wrong with it. If anything it's a good thing his first experience with the game isn't a babby mode version.
>on the worst emulation platform.
SNES emulation is really accurate nowadays, what are you even\

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 2 22:04:35 2015 No.2831368 >>2831028 >>2831365 Took me until after posting to realise what you meant by emulation platform. Yeah, okay PSP is bollocks. Ignore my sleep deprived cocksucking.

Anonymous Wed Dec 2 23:07:46 2015 No.2831454
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>>2825778
Dragon Quest V has the most personal story of any JRPG in my opinion. A couple of WRPGs do it well, but man. I really feel like it's the Main Chars (Not Hero) story through and through. Theres no lack of motivation, and I genuinely feel for the characters in the game, which is an accomplishment for a game originally on the SFC.

[spoilers] I'm playing the DS remake too...

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 04:41:32 2015 No.2831794
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>>2831028
Worst version how? I couldn't care less about the improved graphics, the 4 characters party or the new waifu. The translation is bad though, I'll give you that.

And all I have is an old ass PSP, don't know why you consider it a bad emulation device, I have encountered 0 issues so far.

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 06:48:22 2015 No.2831864

I don't really know why but DQ is the only JRPG series I can stand

ps1/ps2 jrpgs bore me to tears, but i enjoyed dq1, 3, 5 and 8 immensely

maybe it's because i don't have a million spare health potions i never use and battles are fast without bullshit animations, but i'm just guessing

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 06:49:36 2015 No.2831865 Dragon Quest is the one series where the badness of the games outweighs the nostalgia factor for me. I can put up with a lot of shit when I'm playing old games and still tell myself I'm having fun but DQ is just mind-numbing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 06:54:37 2015 No.2831869 >>2815443 grinding is the essential part of the DQ experience, cutting it out just makes it a bad version of modern jrpgs

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 3 07:20:04 2015 No.2831896 >>2831454 It's pretty cool that the main character is not the "Legendary Hero", too. I can't remember any other JRPG that does that.

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 17:06:38 2015 No.2832491

>>2831896
FF7 kind of has that Zack was the original hero, and Cloud was just the unlikely receiver of the torch, but yeah it's hard to name them.

Dragon Quest V though is really unique in that literally the past couple of games was all about you being the hero and hyping it up. DQV hints that then subverts it in a really clever way.

Anonymous Thu Dec 3 17:18:43 2015 No.2832509

>>2831896
>I can't remember any other JRPG that does that.
Rance explicitly has an in-universe system that designates a teenage boy as a hero and makes him near-invincible, and the more humanity is pushed to the bring, the stronger he becomes.

Rance is just a lucky guy who fucked the Level Goddess for an infinite level cap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 4 23:11:45 2015 No.2834726 >Ctrl+F caravan hearts >0 Criminally underrated

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 02:38:54 2015 No.2837032 File: 44 KB, 640x480, 1354401279902.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 02:42:56 2015 No.2837045 >>2834726 GBA isn't retro, you dumb sack of shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 06:30:56 2015 No.2837302 4 and 8 are the best entries, prove me wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 14:32:33 2015 No.2837830 >>2837302 Prove yourself right.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 14:43:52 2015 No.2837843 >quest

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 14:45:19 2015 No.2837846 I quite like 5, 7, and 8. 7 is my favorite despite its slow pacing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 14:47:47 2015 No.2837849 Even though it's not retro, I do greatly enjoy 8. However, 3 and DQM1 are easily my favorites of the series. Though, 6 and 7 come close, since I enjoyed their class mechanics and worlds a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 6 15:40:59 2015 No.2837973 >>2837846 The Heartbeat DQ's are rubbish, everything about their design is crap from the bad pacing to the boring dungeons to the bloated job trees.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 01:02:15 2015 No.2839061 I'm playing through III (Remake) right now, i've got a fighter a jew and sage (formerly a jester) What should i turn my jew into? he hits hard as fuck. his stats are: Lvl 24, str, 83, agi 47, vit, 76, int 32, luck 24.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 04:06:08 2015 No.2839273 >>2839061 >not having a full party of jews ya blew it sempai

Anonymous Mon Dec 7 06:09:42 2015 No.2839368
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>>2837302
V Is the best game. IV and VIII come right after though, in that order.

I'd also recommend them as baby's first DQ games though. Both are great starter games.

Anonymous Mon Dec 7 09:11:18 2015 No.2839535

>>2839368
I've had to finally come to the conclusion this series just isn't for me. I enjoyed the first one well enough and 2 and 3 were alright, but have tried IV, V and VI repeatedly and can't get into them. IV and V might be a couple of the most boring games I've ever played.

Legit enjoyed IX though. Very weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 09:28:15 2015 No.2839551 Hands down best RPG series IMO. Wish I could play on PC...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 15:12:46 2015 No.2840023 >>2812727 I played throught the one where you're following in your father's footsteps (was it 4?), and VIII Got half way through V before my save got lost They're ok games, but nothing I need the feel to revisit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 15:14:28 2015 No.2840026 >>2840023 *feel the need, kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 15:28:13 2015 No.2840058 So what's /vr/'s initial thoughts of Dragon Quest Heroes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 15:38:19 2015 No.2840084 >>2839368 5 > 3 > 4 > 8 > 6 > 7 > 1 > 2 Haven't played 9 yet. How does it fare?

Anonymous Mon Dec 7 15:48:54 2015 No.2840108

>>2840084
It's rather great, actually. Very much like III with a job system and aesthetically customizable party members. And once you beat the main story there's an end-game with MMOesque sidequests as well as randomly generated dungeons which could theoretically keep you occupied indefinitely. Its one big flaw is you're restricted to one save file.

Anonymous Mon Dec 7 15:48:59 2015 No.2840109

>>2840058
The new one? I have it, and speaking as a fan of both Dragon Quest and Dynasty Warriors it's a bad matchup.

Difficulty is basically either cakewalk or nigh-impossible, which is reminiscent of the first DQ but it really doesn't work in an action setting - it's fucking frustrating to take on a boss and pull out all the stops and use all your resources and use your entire team's musou attacks and the boss isn't even half-dead.

They also locked playable Psaro behind a fight that you'd need to be on NG+ to beat and of course he joins you more than a dozen levels lower than your guys. You also don't get to keep any of the unique gear you got from quests in NG+ aside from the shit weapons you bought and left behind half the game ago.

You also unlearn your techniques, so once you've gone through NG+ twice (get all those skill points, unlock everyone's abilities) then there's little point in ever doing NG+ again, so extremely diminishing returns. Also they will not give you enough skill points to get all your skills in a single playthrough, or even two.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 16:38:08 2015 No.2840192 >>2839061 >not doing ultra high luck jester into fighter and getting the Zen book to turn your Jew into a bulky sage

Anonymous Mon Dec 7 17:48:51 2015 No.2840313

>>2812727
Great games, but I think DQ6 heralded the series becoming much more breakable in general and that it lost something thanks to that. With DQ6 in particular, there are a lot of combinations you can pull with its class system that the game doesn't feel like it's prepared to handle and the resource management aspect goes straight to hell because of the change in inventory systems and because it's very easy to get your melee dudes to learn a healing spell or two to put their otherwise useless MP to use topping the party off in case you don't feel like using the 99 Medical Herbs that are trivial to buy.

DQ3 sort of had the latter problem but its much stricter class and class change systems made it much harder to pull off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 18:39:30 2015 No.2840390 File: 482 B, 38x38, Metal Slime.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2837032

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 18:40:52 2015 No.2840391 >>2840313 Why would you use anything other than the Zero MP healing dance?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 7 18:52:16 2015 No.2840413 File: 237 KB, 1024x702, dragon_quest___erdrick_by_tidalc-d5zqiki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2840058 Fuck this guy >>2840109 game is fun as hell. Dude just sounds bad. Wish a Loto trilogy hero was in it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 8 04:51:51 2015 No.2841340 >>2840192 This is a good choice.

Anonymous Wed Dec 9 04:24:46 2015 No.2843385
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I've heard plenty of recommendations and have recently picked up the series.

I have played and beat 1, 4, and 5. Looking to start either 3 or 6. I've played 2, but can't get really into it.

The versions would be either GBC or DS respectively.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 9 04:47:55 2015 No.2843408 >>2843385 play 3 on snes first, it's shorter and arguably better

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 9 17:41:13 2015 No.2844472 >>2843385 It's better if you play 3 after 1 and 2 (there's a major plot point involving both games), but since you can't get into 2...

Anonymous Wed Dec 9 19:46:04 2015 No.2844525
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>>2844472
I know that 2 is the furthest in the timeline, and 3 plays with both 1 and 2 in that it's the legendary hero whom they're all descended from, which is why I wish I COULD get into 2 but wondering around trying to get the seals is too aimless for me. I don't mind open ended, I've played the Ultimas to death, but DQ2 is just boring me...

That said I just started 3 from the suggestion, got a Jew, Thief, and Cleric. Solid party?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 04:45:26 2015 No.2845373 >>2843385 >>2843408 >>2844472 What about someone who could never get into the series? I want to try and finish at least one game, so which one would be best to start with?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:02:50 2015 No.2845886
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>>2845373
IV or VIII in my personal opinion. I is really basic, so while its nice to see the origins of JRPGs doesnt really represent the games as a whole. IV and VIII have some of the best characterizations and interesting story telling ideas. If you start with IV you can then move to V which is personally my favorite game. VIII is also the standard formula perfected with a modern look, if you care to move past /vr/ territory.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:24:34 2015 No.2845925 >>2840413 Nigga I ain't bad at it. I've beaten it four times. What exactly am I bad at here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:30:32 2015 No.2845937 >>2827404 The names are slightly random. There's different sets of names that are determined by what you use as your name. I remember the Cannock prince in the NES version was named Talint for me. The Princess was Elani

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 13:54:29 2015 No.2845975 >>2845886 IV sounds nice but which version?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:04:27 2015 No.2845993 >>2845975 Might as well go for broke and get the DS remake.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 14:26:52 2015 No.2846030 >>2845886 As someone who only played and beat VIII and IX and absolutely loved both, do you suggest going IV and V as well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:18:18 2015 No.2846123 >>2845373 V is best but it might be harder to go back to the earlier ones or the Heartbeat DQ's (which are a bit inferior to the Chunsoft ones). You should just beat them in chronological order imo.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:24:02 2015 No.2846134
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>>2846030
Depends on if you would rather play a game more in line with either 8 or 9.

If you would really like to do the class customization and party of blank slates, I'd actually recommend 3.

If you'd rather play a game with more fleshed out characters and a personal story, 4 and then 5.

>>2845975
The DS remake is probably the best way to play it, unless you can stomach mobile. Only reason I even mention it is because party chat was put back into those versions after being arbitrarily removed from IV DS. V and VI thankfully don't have that problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:54:47 2015 No.2846167 File: 126 KB, 754x648, it begins.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm jumping in, guys!

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 16:58:19 2015 No.2846172

>>2831454

It's still definitely your story, you have a connection with animals, you marry a woman who has Zenithian blood (which IIRC was supposed to be fated), and you go after Nimzo because he's got your mom, not just to save the world. That is covers your whole life gives it a truly epic feeling to me, way more than DBZ power levels and killing God. That everything you do has a personal motivation alongside a plot motivation just makes everything more compelling for the player.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:05:10 2015 No.2846187 >>2846172 I mentioned the game recently to a friend, and said almost exactly this. Such a great experience.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:19:21 2015 No.2846215
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>>2846167
You're going to have a great time!
>>2846172
You marry a woman with Zenithan blood, your blood is special too without getting into spoilers. And like I said, despite being the Main Char's story, he's not the hero. That's crazy for a JRPG. But his whole life revolving around looking for him and when the Legendary Hero's true nature is finally revealed... man.

And yeah, he's out for himself and his family. Saving the world is just a consequence. It's fucking great. I can gush about this game for hours.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:21:44 2015 No.2846220
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>>2846215
Side topic, but am I the only one though who, despite loving Bianca and the MC's story and chemistry, found it a little odd that Bianca was really into you? I get the childhood friends and being close, but she first saw you when you were like 3 and she was 5, then you were 6 and she was 8.

Ten years later she sees you and was worried that you were gone and that makes sense. But always romantically loved you? Eh....

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:33:45 2015 No.2846241 This will sound shitty in the muh mature media vein but I think the designs in Dragon Quest are too childish. I have a very pronounced dislike for Toriyama, too. So yeah, guess I'll have to pass on this.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:47:16 2015 No.2846273
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>>2846241
The American NES games removed all Toryiama traces and instead went for Elizbethian text and more tradition medival art. Might want to try those, at least III and IV.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:51:50 2015 No.2846281 >>2846273 So they removed his monster designs too? Cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 17:57:02 2015 No.2846287 >>2845937 Nice, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 18:04:46 2015 No.2846302 >>2846281 N...no...not the monsters...though once get past the slimes they look pretty generic monstery. Not much different than FF on NES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:07:03 2015 No.2846424 File: 121 KB, 525x455, dq3 party.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2846215 Rate my party!

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 19:16:54 2015 No.2846435

>>2846215
>And like I said, despite being the Main Char's story, he's not the hero. That's crazy for a JRPG. But his whole life revolving around looking for him and when the Legendary Hero's true nature is finally revealed... man.

And not just that, but also living up to the lagacy that was his father, a Great Man to everyone who knew him. The MC is essentially a bit player in the grand scheme of things, and still turns out to be a boss motherfucker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:05:55 2015 No.2846526 >>2846424 Happy harem hero/10

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 20:07:23 2015 No.2846528 >>2846424 >not 3 happy merchants You fucking blew it, mate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:11:08 2015 No.2846621 File: 80 KB, 542x457, sick luck gains.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2846528 I did make a Dealer called "Goym" and he, I shit you not, got the "happy" personality. Also, holy shit these gains the jester class has.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:19:20 2015 No.2846637 File: 1.80 MB, 2436x992, Dragon.Quest.III.full.837020.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2846424 I'd go Merchant over Warrior, but 8/10.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:20:00 2015 No.2846638 What's the best versions of 4 and 5 to play? I'd prefer not to deal with the ds' garbage resolution and emulation. I'm thinking with 5 I'll go with the ps2 version.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:21:14 2015 No.2846640
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>>2846638
Sadly, the DS version of V is clearly the best version to play.
Same with IV. Either that or mobile. If you don't want to do that, PSX for IV and SNES for V.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:22:47 2015 No.2846646 >>2846638 Play the original releases you fucking babby.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:24:26 2015 No.2846652 >>2846638 I played them on an R4 on my DSPhat back in the day. Shit was cash. DQIV is very basic, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:40:29 2015 No.2846673 >>2846621 >Also, holy shit these gains the jester class has. Isn't the Jester the most broken class in the game for that reason?

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:40:36 2015 No.2846674

>>2846646
I have no qualms with playing the originals, I was merely under the assumption the remakes were better than the original iterations, you faggot. And in general asking which version was the best.

>>2846640
I suppose I'll try emulating the ds versions, if not I'll see which version I prefer by testing the waters of each.

Anonymous Thu Dec 10 21:44:59 2015 No.2846679

>>2846674

If not for sloppy localization, it would be the DS versions of the Zenithian trilogy hands-down no question. But since the localization of IV and V were butchered, it's a much closer matter than it should otherwise be.

I still say DS, but those who beg to differ are doing so for legit reasons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:02:43 2015 No.2846693 >>2846673 Well, they're only getting Luck, MP and Wisdom, none of which they use.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 22:55:34 2015 No.2846759 >>2846679 I rather liked some of the silly accents of V, it was only DQIV the one that got shafted by removing the whole party chat.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 10 23:14:30 2015 No.2846778 File: 1.10 MB, 1280x1024, dragon-quest-ix-wallpaper-4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The best thing about 9 was that your party members changed appearance when they changed armor/weapons. I thought that was really neat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 00:04:36 2015 No.2846873 >>2846220 She never stops mentioning the time the two of you went ghost hunting. Next time I play it, I'll pick a different girl.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:24:41 2015 No.2847008
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>>2846873
To be fair, ghost hunting as kids and legit killing ghosts is pretty badass and I'm sure is a fond memory.

>>2846679
How was V butchered? It just gave some flavor. Cockney Bianca makes sense as she's basically a good natured country bumpkin. It also highlights her difference between Nera's very proper educated and wealthy upbringing.

>>2846778
That is cool. More JRPGs need to incorporate this, instead of clinging to their character designs so much. One of the few places WRPGs really have them beat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 01:51:22 2015 No.2847041 >>2824502 IV > VI

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:33:07 2015 No.2847109 >>2846873 D E B O R A E B O R A

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:35:26 2015 No.2847112 >>2846215 >>2846435 Dude probably has the worst luck of any MC I can think of. And you thought your father gets it bad...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:37:38 2015 No.2847115 I liked III and V, but IV has been boring me (just finished Torneko's chapter). Should I stick with it or play a different one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 02:54:00 2015 No.2847138 >>2812727 They only ever published one in Spain and I liked it. ds games don't count as they're a step back in console evolution.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:19:41 2015 No.2847174

>>2847115
Torneko's chapter is pretty hype on the DS since you can essentially pass 99x Steel Broadswords, or with luck, 99x Cautery Swords and get mad dosh from the get go on the 5th chapter. Don't worry shit really picks up afterwards. Torneko's part is just a small window into the life of a Great Goym.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 03:39:28 2015 No.2847189
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>>2847138
DS games are just fine.
Don't be such an elitist. Gives them a viable platform to revist the game. Would be audacious to remake a NES or SNES game on PS3 or 4.

>>2847115
While I personally like the different chapters giving you insight to the backstory of a typical JRPG gang before they meet the MC, I can see how that's not your thing. By the time of Chapter 5 it's normalized, and you're almost there. I'd encourage you to stick it out.

>>2847112
Well, he does get a happy ending at least.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 04:15:21 2015 No.2847220 >>2846220 That's why you kick her to the curb and marry Deborah like a true patrician in the DS version.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:17:44 2015 No.2847382 >>2847220 You do have to visit her every so often and reminisce about hunting ghosts as children though.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 07:19:52 2015 No.2847383

>>2847008
>How was V butchered?
Unnecessary name changes, for example Nera's name change only happened because Bianca meant white in Italian so for some reason they decided to change Flora's name to Nera which means black in Italian. I don't know why translators love doing shit like that, and it's more than just that. Also there's censorship in the translation. Personally it doesn't bother me, but I can understand why purists are bothered by it.

>>2846220
>Side topic, but am I the only one though who, despite loving Bianca and the MC's story and chemistry, found it a little odd that Bianca was really into you?
Saving someone's life kinda does that to a person at times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:23:17 2015 No.2848065 File: 17 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (Japan) [T-En by DQ Translations v1.1]_00000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2846424 That's smalltime. Solo Sage is where it's at!

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:32:02 2015 No.2848086 File: 22 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu he... (Japan)000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2848065 How do you solo DQ3 with anything but a hero?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:36:03 2015 No.2848096 >>2847220 I'm not into S&M.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:36:44 2015 No.2848101
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>>2848065
I wonder if you can beat the game with only a jester

>>2847383
Well, it's not like Flora was the official name in the west already, and it doesn't take away anything and, if anything, adds meaning to the names. They're localizing, not directly translating, so they need to add somewhere the flavor that can be lost in translation. I'd understand getting pissed at accents that can make some stuff hard to understand (Took me a long while in DQIV to understand that "turr" meant "tower"), but modified dialogue is a rather silly reason to be angry on DQV, since the DS adds so much more stuff.
Was there anything censored? I found all the lewd stuff to be there.

>>2848086
These names are so goddamn boring, anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:38:50 2015 No.2848107 >>2848086 Not him, but I think you can drop the Hero after defeating the final boss.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:41:12 2015 No.2848115 File: 977 KB, 770x1120, 10c9319971b3bef876fa8277df64fccffe3c61cf[1].png_610889.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2848065 >male Sage Boo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:41:59 2015 No.2848116 >>2848107 Then it's hardly a solo run.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 15:49:57 2015 No.2848131 >>2848101 >These names are so goddamn boring, anon. They're there for a reason, just like the bikinis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 11 16:45:17 2015 No.2848253 >>2847220 Marrying Debora was like a gamble. Nera is the safe choice, and Bianca isn't bad. Things could either be very bad or very good after marrying Debora, and I'm glad I jumped at the chance.

Anonymous Fri Dec 11 17:12:56 2015 No.2848305
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>>2848115
This is one of the cutest comics I've ever seen. Japan really loves the Hero/Female Sage ship, despite that character having literally no personality...

>>2848253
That's kind of the intent. Deborah is if you want someone to fuck you like a tiger and unfreeze the ice queen. Nera is supposed to be the idea of love at first sight and marrying into a nice loving family. Bianca is the childhood sweetheart whom you've grown to love because of all the time spent together.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 01:29:00 2015 No.2849134 >>2847109 That's actually what I was planning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 03:54:01 2015 No.2849336 You know, seeing how slow but audacious this thread is versus the 5 or so FF threads that are present at any given time really shows to me the state (and number) of fans each series has in the West.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 05:15:42 2015 No.2849437 I am almost done DW1 and I don't think it's a very good game, how much better is 2?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 05:21:35 2015 No.2849446 >>2849437 Also wanted to ask is the NES version of II and III the "definitive" versions?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 05:33:11 2015 No.2849457 >>2849446 Definitive for who and what? The NES versions are neither true to the Famicom originals nor are they as thought through as the SFC remakes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 05:55:20 2015 No.2849483 I saw that there are a couple of DQ mangas, but some series are really long. Are they all good to read, or should I avoid some?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 06:02:03 2015 No.2849487 >>2849457 I was generalizing NES with Famicom. Should I do the SFC english patch for DWII? I just went in and did DWI on the NES so I completely missed out on doing it for SFC.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 13:22:17 2015 No.2850123
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>>2849487
Yes.
Also DW1 is super bare bones. By today's standards it's pretty bad, it's just historically significant.

Honestly, I'd say you can skip II as well because it's also one of those early RPG building blocks that's not really representative of the series as a whole, much like FF2.

DQ/DW doesn't really shine until 3. I'd def recommend playing the SFC remake of that.

I really like it's GBC remake though.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:03:21 2015 No.2850765
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>>2815016
>>2815006
I think this anon makes a good point and is in the right. The accusation of autism for not letting a relatively minor thing go is arbitrary considering neither side chose to back down. Either both are autists or neither are.

And it wasn't simply silly, but a definite misinterpretation of the imageboard's voice. The poster he called out would like to pretend the correction was just for correctness' sake but it's clearly because he's attached a certain degree of identity to his post(s) within the thread - hoping his comments will be engaged with, not anonymously, but as a coherent individual. An offense.

No sage for off-topic because 4chan's become a pathetic hugbox.

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:11:07 2015 No.2850780
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I started playing the DQ games the last year (from DQ I, GBC version on my 3DS. For portable reasons). When I finish Rune Factory 4, I'm going to start DQ IV (DS).

DQ I is, at this moment, not only my favorite DQ game, also my favorite RPG.
I love his simplicity, and some of the puzzles.

Also when at the end, all the world is full of flowers and without monsters

Anonymous Sat Dec 12 18:37:06 2015 No.2850860
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so how viable is not reclassing characters in DQ3? I've kinda grown attached to my Soldier and I want to see if I can carry a jester to the endgame. I do want to change my Cleric to a Sage, though, but I'll wait until she gets revive..

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 20:36:55 2015 No.2851071 >>2845925 Not him, but beating a game does not necessarily mean you are good at it. DSP managed to beat Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, and Metal Gear Solid 3 despite being clinically retarded and objectively bad at them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 12 21:54:02 2015 No.2851192 >>2850860 It's perfectly viable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 07:13:42 2015 No.2851852 I think I just hit the inn bug near the end of the game in Dragon Warrior II english patch, is there any way to fix this? I have not saved in a while, so I don't know what to do.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 13:44:45 2015 No.2852340
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I like where this is going

>>2851852
It's bugs like these and others I've gotten that make me compulsively save state when I sense danger. That and the fact that kings are very far off to each other.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 13:52:08 2015 No.2852349

>>2851852
Saw this on a forum

>Make a save state right before talking to the prince, rename the save state so it matches the unpatched version's name, load an unpatched version of the ROM, load the save state, fix the prince, save state again, rename save state to match patched version, load patched game and continue on your merry way.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 13:54:16 2015 No.2852354 >>2850123 >You should ignore the first two titles in a barebone RPG franchise because they're simplistic games and don't hold up to today's standards Am I still in /vr/

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 14:46:26 2015 No.2852430

>>2851852
As someone who has been through that patch and glitch, this over here is the answer: >>2852349

However, I would not recommend using a save state. Instead, you should actually save the game physically. I used a save state and it just gave me a shit ton of trouble.

However, I'm on Dragon Quest 3 on the GBC, and I'm kinda stuck. I have the Dry Vase and I need to go get the Final Key. The game told me to go look for shoals to use the Dry Vase at, but the only place I can find that has the shoals has an inn nearby, and it SEEMS like the right place, but whenever I approach the shoals, a song starts playing and my ship gets pushed back like 5 spaces. Am I missing something here?

Also, side question: what the fuck is the difference between Recollect, Remember, and Recall?

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 16:58:54 2015 No.2852724
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Aww shit son, I finally got myself a Sage. After struggling a lot with the fucking Troll I am tempted to also reclass my Jester into a Sage, but I fear I might consider myself a casual after going this far to take a Jester to the endgame. At least she can use staves.

Gonna bust all my Life Nuts on the Sage now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 17:12:11 2015 No.2852738 >>2812727 All Dragon Quest are Shit. Mother es better than Dragon Quest ; Mother 1 - Earthbound - Mother 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All Dragon Quest

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 17:22:58 2015 No.2852753 File: 18 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Into the Legend028.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I am so glad I did this

= Sun Dec 13 17:46:24 2015 No.2852785

>>2814508
Dragon Quest IV's spanish localization is balls on wall funny, especially with the obvious ad-libbing (Torneko is a Jew) and how every kingdom was turned into a real world country.

The Argentinian cats almost made me shit with laugther.
> "Este... miau."

>>	= Sun Dec 13 17:52:24 2015 No.2852801 >>2852753 > Not dressing your female characters with Magic Bikinis. Son, are you gay or what? Plus, every girl gets a different bathing suit.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 17:54:34 2015 No.2852805
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>>2852785
>>2852801
Argentian accents make everything funny
https://youtu.be/aBxlZxEDbtY?list=FLkgLXY6vPynR5vrPHT1VCYA&t=522

I will dress everyone in a magic bikini as soon as I can fucking find one. From what I can see it's endgame equipment. I am currently collecting the Orbs

= Sun Dec 13 18:00:47 2015 No.2852814

>>2852805
You can get bikinis as semi rare drops more or less at the same time you can start getting the cat suits.
The magic bikinis you can get once you enter into the final world give decent physical defense but they also give you a fuckton of boosts so it's worth grinding for them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:08:12 2015 No.2852829 >>2852724 >Not using all your stat items on the hero What is this, your first time in an RPG?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:09:46 2015 No.2852831 >>2852829 The Hero is fine. I like having all my characters doing good. Isn't using all your stat boosters on the hero what first time shitters do?

>>	= Sun Dec 13 18:11:58 2015 No.2852838 >>2852831 > Using all stat items on the hero > Wondering why the rest of the party keeps being killed during boss fights Eyup.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:14:39 2015 No.2852843

>>2852831

>Putting stat boosting shit on people that will not always be in your party 100% of the time
>Putting rare as fuck items on people that can be removed from the party, or in games where you are forced to go alone
>First-time shitters

Nah bro. Only an idiot trying to pretend he knows what he's doing would do something that idiotic.

>>2852838
>Training a weak party
>"Oh this is totally because I put stat boosting items on the best character to put them on, not because I picked a weak party"

Nyup.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:17:54 2015 No.2852846 File: 11 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Soshite Densetsu e... (En)615.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does art of the princess with the blonde drills exist?

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:18:03 2015 No.2852847
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>>2852843
>on people that will not always be in your party 100% of the time
When do they leave? They've been with me from beginning to end the whole game
A good argument you could be using would be
>Putting stat boosters on character who can reclass to gain greater bonuses

But you're dropping many balls. This isn't SMT where your party memebers are evanescent, you're supposed to keep them the whole game.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:23:29 2015 No.2852856

>>2852847
>When do they leave?
I was talking about RPGs in general, but there's a handful of enemies in the game with a magic ability to forcibly remove party members and put them back in the tavern. Also, I don't know if the SuFami version has it, but the hero also has to go it alone in the Pachisi game.

Also, pic proves you're an idiot, but hey, it's not like the game is hard. Do what you want.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:28:02 2015 No.2852869 >>2852856 >Also, I don't know if the SuFami version has it, but the hero also has to go it alone in the Pachisi game. Yep, that's correct the super famicom version does have it and it also has the super boss at the end.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:28:48 2015 No.2852871

>>2852856
>I was talking about RPGs in general
Not ever RPG works the same

>here's a handful of enemies in the game with a magic ability to forcibly remove party members
Yeah I was hit by Disperse once, but I just warped back, it wasn't a major nuance, as much as I got freaked out a little.

>it's not like the game is hard
Likewise, chill out. If that's the way you conduct yourself in RPGs then that's that. I prefer to have all 4 party members strong and effective, you prefer to overpower the game with a strong solo unit. Both are valid tactics.

That Soldier, Angel, has a Meteor Bracer by the way. Those 6 points in agility are actually 12 and now she's my fastest unit, has more HP and Strength than the Hero.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:29:01 2015 No.2852872 >>2852869 Oh, that's delicious. >>2852847 Enjoy your super boss without your stat bonuses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:30:44 2015 No.2852875 File: 115 KB, 512x796, DeSmuME_X432R_x64 2015-12-13 18-29-38-11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2812727 I marred Nera. She's also the best in the Dragon Quest Heroes. I made the right choice.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:31:21 2015 No.2852880
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>>2852872
The Final boss or a Bonus boss? Because I am not sure I want to play the post-game content. I want to play DQ1 and DQ2 afterwards.

Besides I am pushing a Jester the whole game, do you think I fear a little challenge?

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:33:40 2015 No.2852883

>>2852880

>do you think I fear a little challenge?

Probably not. Do I think you're stupid and lack experience in a majority of RPGs? well. . .

>Not ever RPG works the same
>Implying that it's not a RIDICULOUS common cliche of RPGs in general

Yes. Yes I do think that.

>Likewise, chill out.
No. This isn't a hugbox. If you do stupid shit, I will berate you like the child you are for it until you learn otherwise.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:36:40 2015 No.2852891

>>2852883
You think I am doing stupid shit.
You sound like the kind of shitter who drops all the resources on the main character and then go complain on fucking gamefaqs
>GUUUYS, WHY IS THIS BOSS SO HARD
>MY HEALER DIES TO ONE HIT OF THE TROLL, WHAT A SHITTY CLASS
>THIS GAME IS SOO GRINDY

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:40:50 2015 No.2852895

>>2852891
No, I'm the shitter who goes onto 4chan and tells whiny gamefaqs babbies how to actually play RPGs.

>WAH, GUYS, THIS BOSS IS SO HARD, I'M LIKE LEVEL 30 WHY IS THIS GAME SO GRINDY
>What? That's like 10 levels further than I was and I got by him fine. Are you using your buff spells and abilities right? Is your main character an unstoppable beast because of all those stats you put into him?
>WHAT NO THOSE DON'T WORK WAH ALSO I MADE MY PARTY SUPER BALANCED SO THEY'RE ALL EQUALLY WEAK

Like I said, do what you want, but don't come crying later on when you wind up with a mediocre party at best.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:53:09 2015 No.2852909
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>>2852895
Oh shit, my Hero just got hit by Defeat. My main source of damage is now gone by a simple RNG callback. Good thing I trained this party full of useful units and this isn't even a nuance.

>whiny gamefaqs babbies how to actually play RPGs.
You're the only one who's whining like a little bitch here

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:56:59 2015 No.2852913

>>2852909
I'm not the one that took offense to being called out like a bitch.

Also, shit sucks, but it happens.
>Oh shit, my Cleric just got hit by instant death spells. Better be a little passive-aggressive faggot about it and whine that my reviver got targeted.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 18:59:17 2015 No.2852915

>>2852913
>My cleric
It was the hero who did. You're the one who didn't want any more hugboxy shit. You wanted aggressive, you get aggressive.

By the way, which is your favorite Wizardry-like game? I'd love to hear how you beat one of those only boosting one character.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 19:00:35 2015 No.2852918 >>2852895 >>2852891 Now now you two. You're both equally faggots.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 19:03:04 2015 No.2852923

>>2852915
>>My cleric
>It was the hero who did
You're also retarded. I posted a hypothetical. I thought that was excessively clear.

>You wanted aggressive, you get aggressive.
That's cute you think you're anywhere close to offending me.

>By the way, which is your favorite Wizardry-like game? I'd love to hear how you beat one of those only boosting one character.
Prefer Roguelikes, friend. And those only ever boost one character, and are much, MUCH harder. Feel free to tell me all you know about dungeon crawling though. I'm sure to have a laugh.

>>2852918
Fine fine, I'll fuck off for now. It got a little too easy in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 19:15:46 2015 No.2852941 File: 18 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Into the Legend034.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2852923 shhh, no tears anymore. Only love now

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 19:31:32 2015 No.2852962

I can't be bothered to dig through 260+ replies to see if any of these questions were already asked, so forgive me if I'm being redundant.

I've already conquered DQ1 and 2, and I'm thinking about starting on 3 and 4. I'll be playing the NES versions.

There are a couple of concerns I had:

- What's the suggested approach to DQ3's class system? e.g. Which classes you would recommend starting as, when I should switch, etc.

- Are there any "missables" between these two games? The earlier DQ games had respawning treasure chests, so that wasn't an issue. I'm not sure if later games use the same treasure system, or if areas that I visit early on become permanently inaccessible later in the story.

I'm a completionist, so I would ideally like to go for 100% in as few playthroughs as possible.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 19:49:55 2015 No.2852987

>>2852962
>DQ3
>What's the suggested approach to DQ3's class system?
Make 3 classes you like, pretty much every class has something good going for them, even the joke class. I made my team entirely based off how I liked them aesthetically, because I want to have a fond memory of playing this game. Do bring a Cleric/Pilgrim around, though, healing is way too good. And also do make them girls, as females get shitloads of great equipment, and there are no male-only gear, as far as I've seen at least. I'd also suggest the SNES version, but that's up to you.

I have yet to come across anything missable other than some Mini-medals in a town that changes (it was in a chest, so it's hard to miss), and if you really are concerned about that chances are you'll be following a guide. You can sell some one-of a kind items, though.

I really wasn't paying much attention to bonuses or completion in DQIV as I finished it in the DS and I was on a vacation at the beach, but I can tell you Alena rocks the game hard and it has an extra scenario, so if you want to see that you you'll need to get the DS version.

Anonymous Sun Dec 13 20:07:03 2015 No.2853016

>>2852962
Regarding 3 and its class systems, my personal setup (don't give a shit if you have proof that it's sub-optimal or whatever) is:

Hero, Warrior, Pilgrim, Wizard (then Sage). This gives you two physical classes, a healer, an offense magic caster, and later in the game an offense/healer caster, because I find the end game gets fairly rough without two healers to spread the healing around when needed. Some of the bosses, too - Orochi comes to mind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 13 21:05:24 2015 No.2853138 File: 52 KB, 208x225, truth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2812727 I love DQ

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 06:52:50 2015 No.2853872
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>>2853016
So the default classes. A little boring, but conventional and functional.

>>2852354
Yeah man you are, but you're allowed to like Ultima IV and think Akalabeth is pretty shit.
Likewise I think DQ 1 and 2 are pretty bad, but necessary to bring us 3 and upwards. Still over 20 year old games and still on the fucking NES so shut the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 08:38:44 2015 No.2853957 >>2853872 Damn good art right there

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 16:27:33 2015 No.2854752 >>2853872 Personal recommendation. Do not reclass he Pilgrim/Cleric to a Sage, or else you might miss out on important skills like HealUs and Barrier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:47:44 2015 No.2855059 File: 37 KB, 222x86, All in Bikinis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I have my 3 party members on bikinis. Now what

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 18:58:27 2015 No.2855092 File: 35 KB, 470x370, dq3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2855059 You look at more bikinis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 19:22:18 2015 No.2855178 >>2848305 >all the time spent together. Yeah, all that time spent together, while you were off with your dad travelling around, and then stuck in a slave labor camp for 10 years. Lots of time spent together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 19:24:54 2015 No.2855180 >>2853872 >A little boring, but conventional and functional. Eh, it's not a game that really rewards unconventionality. Having a good spread of skills and abilities is more important to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:47:34 2015 No.2855475 File: 25 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Into the Legend051.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't know you could sent just about anyone to the Pachini

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 22:51:49 2015 No.2855486

>>2852987
>Mini-medals
>as females get shitloads of great equipment
Fairly sure this is all remake stuff that this guy doesn't need to worry about because he's playing the NES version. Like a MAN.

>>2852962
I suggest you have at least one of your spellcasters learn all their spells before class changing to the other spellcasting class. Since they keep all theyir old spells that makes them as good as a free Sage! The other spellcaster can just become a Sage whenever and learn all spells anyway.

Anonymous Mon Dec 14 23:18:44 2015 No.2855547

>>2855486
Well in the NES original the Fighter class is literally stuck on earlygame armor unless he makes it a woman that can use the Magic Bikini. In fact, the Magic Bikini might as well be the best armor for anyone that isn't a Hero, a Soldier, a Pilgrim or a Sage (who can equip the Magic Armor which has the same defense as the Magic Bikini). Then again, that does looks like the best party for the NES.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:03:36 2015 No.2855597 >>2855475 Actually, one time I stepped on the ? tile, and the thing switched my Hero in for my Dealer. Who I hadn't healed in awhile and ran into an encounter. I was sweating something fierce.

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:07:12 2015 No.2855603

>>2855547
Fighters always seemed like the Monk class from D&D to me. Their armor is mostly intended to come from their natural stats, such as their crazy-high agility stat, as opposed to good equipment. It's why they only get fists/claws which are, what, once every tenth town out of 20 or so?

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 00:20:38 2015 No.2855623
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>>2855603
yeah, they're cool like that. Not as ass-clenching as the Jester class I am sure. Text flies by so fast I just can't take any screenshots of their antics, but some include:
>Attempt to seduce enemies
>Assessing the situation
>Not paying attention
>Throwing rocks at enemies, causing them damage
>Trying to throw rocks and hurting themselves
>Performing tricks and failing
>Performing tricks and confusing the enemy
>Getting a computer bug and paralyzing themselves
>Doping to the ground and sleeping
>Trying to escape on their own
>Trying to cast IceBolt despite not knowing the spell
>Smirking despite not hitting any weaknesses

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 01:17:05 2015 No.2855720 As someone who only played a few Dragon Quest games, what makes III a lot of peoples favorites?

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 01:30:14 2015 No.2855746

>>2855720
For me, III has a really amazing sense of scope and adventure. I guess it's a combination of your characters being completely chosen by you, and the fact that the world map is based on the actual world for the most part. That, and the ending reveal.

I can't really put too much of a finger on it, but it really is my favorite of the series, and I enjoy myself immensely, regardless of which version of it I'm playing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 06:50:35 2015 No.2856061 Are thieves any good in DW3? I was thinking of either using a thief or mage

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 16:08:44 2015 No.2856785
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Finishing the game now! I just destroyed the shit out of this guy.
Barrier + Increase + Bikill on the Soldier is one hell of a combo.
Did I just stood there and watch someone die, despite perfectly being able to do something about it?

>>2856061
I've heard great things about them, their ability to get items is very valuable. Still I'd prefer a mage. Thieves are unique to the SNES/GBC version, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 18:22:01 2015 No.2857025 >>2855597 the swap event will only swap between the first two characters in your party so you can prepare for it if you know about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 19:07:09 2015 No.2857123 File: 27 KB, 256x224, Dragon Quest III - Into the Legend056.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Allright, that was fairly easy. Even the Jester got use out of spamming the Sage Stone. Now what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 21:32:06 2015 No.2857548 >>2857123 >Now what? shot web

Anonymous Tue Dec 15 22:53:26 2015 No.2857712

>>2815820
Honestly the originals are more geared towards general JRPG fans at this point. Personally, I find level grinding relaxing and enjoy the difficulty and frustration most of the time.

If you just want the story and don't care all too much about the intensity or RPG aspects then play the remakes

If you are a more "hardcore" player/fan or enjoy the generic tropes of JRPG's (or have more time to kill) play the originals

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 23:10:10 2015 No.2857737 >>2855623 Jesters get extremely better in VI. You can command them to flash enemies whenever you want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 23:21:34 2015 No.2857761 >>2857737 OOOF, anon, don't tell me that. I wanted to start playing DQ1 and 2 tomorrow. How long are they, by the way?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 23:34:57 2015 No.2857784 >>2857761 Short and not that long, respectively. Don't ask about 7, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 15 23:37:13 2015 No.2857786 >>2857761 Superstars can learn a move that is basically the Sage's Stone, and it has no MP cost. You have to learn Jester to become a Superstar. 1 is short. 2 is longer, not as long as 3, but it'll feel that way because it's kinda vague on some stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 01:00:20 2015 No.2857896 >>2853016 >Wizard (then Sage) That IS kind of sub-optimal though. Sage's whole gimmick is they learn both classes spells. Honestly might as well have turned him into a cleric at that point.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 01:09:08 2015 No.2857909 >>2857896 Wizards reclassed into Sages have a much higher MP pool and their spells are more effective - bigger healing, bigger damage, and they don't miss out on any spells and have a good stack of offense right from the get-go.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 01:12:04 2015 No.2857913 >>2857909 Your stats don't affect your output for healing and damage. Just the spell's stat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 05:05:48 2015 No.2858196 >>2855623 >Trying to cast IceBolt despite not knowing the spell What happens if you turn a character who has learned IceBolt into a goof off? Do they end up casting it or does the same message happen, I wonder? Probably the latter, huh.

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 06:13:27 2015 No.2858248
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>>2858196
I wondered that myself but it's different, special dialogue, it says something like "Goof-off tries to cast IceBolt but stutters and fails" or something like that. It does makes the spell sound effect and all, though, so I think it's more of an allusion or a hint to the fact that they can reclass into a sage instantly. Text flies by so fast I had to try and take screenshots just to see what some of the dialogue says. Try reading this in the split of a second.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 06:30:32 2015 No.2858259 >>2858248 You could always turn down the message speed. Or is it up? I think it's up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 06:37:26 2015 No.2858262 >>2858259 I tried, battles text speed is independent of the message speed, at least in DQ3.

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 06:49:34 2015 No.2858269

>>2858262
What are ya talking about?
The message speed that you can configure in the file select screen is for battle. The higher the number, the longer the combat text will linger on-screen, to the point that you'll have to manually advance each action when you set it to 9.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 06:50:36 2015 No.2858270 >>2858269 My bad, I mean 8.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 07:01:25 2015 No.2858294 >>2858269 >>2858270 Ohhh Thing is that her dialogue is considered normal dialogue and it just gets skipped. but turning it down to 8 does makes it visible. Thanks, now I gotta complie as much funny dialogue as I can

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 07:27:16 2015 No.2858317

The best party for DQ3 is probably

>Hero
>Soldier
>Pilgrim turned into Soldier after Barrier is learned
>Wizard turned into Soldier after Bikill is learned

There is no point in using spells other than Barrier and Bikill anyway once you have the Sage's Stones from Zoma's Castle and the bonus dungeons. So it will be better to maximise the defense of your casters rather than their MP count.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 08:33:05 2015 No.2858360 >>2858317 I think you overestimate DQ3

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 09:18:54 2015 No.2858403 After finishing a bunch of DQ games recently, I am looking for a change of pace and was thinking of giving the Monster series a shot, which should I go with? Monster, Monster 2, Joker or Joker 2 professional?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 11:42:19 2015 No.2858615 >>2858403 Definitely not the Jokers. Try the original Monsters or the remake, if you know moon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 12:34:32 2015 No.2858718 >>2858317 And then you run into ShellSlimes.

Anonymous Wed Dec 16 16:26:15 2015 No.2859135
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>>2858317
If you're taking the bonus dungeons into account is it a little beside the point, because you've already beat the game then so it doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 16 18:48:18 2015 No.2859358 >>2858317 So basically a slow as fuck party.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 17 23:23:35 2015 No.2861959 File: 217 KB, 400x571, 4cf30e6af6f648d3d077a65002ed2ce5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bump

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:47:34 2015 No.2863983

I've never played a DQ game (but plenty of other jrpgs). Right now on my first playthrough of DQV. What should I play next if I don't care about the story (but rather the mechanics, systems, customization)?
What I'm liking so far:
– Party members have always something to comment depending on NPCs around, location, etc.
– Monster recruiting
– Atmospheric little things (day/night cycle, which affects backgrounds, castle bridge, ship schedule)

Anonymous Fri Dec 18 23:51:20 2015 No.2863987

>>2863983
You should definitely play it in order to see how the games advance, so I would recommend going 1 & 2 next.

I recommend them mostly because you need to play through them to get the full enjoyment out of 3, which sounds like it would be right up your ally minus the monster recruitment.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 00:37:08 2015 No.2864019

>>2863983
Dragon Warrior Monsters has a ton of customization possibility, and is rooted in monster recruitment. Definitely play that.

If you're more wanting to go for a mainline DQ, and don't want to go for the first two (which would be a shame in my opinion, as they're charming despite their age), then start with IV and work onward.
I leave III out only on the assumption of not playing I and II. If you go that route, then play 'em all. Seriously. This is the only JRPG series that I legitimately love every entry, even with what flaws they may have.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 02:12:49 2015 No.2864081
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>>2863983
-Party members talk in every game IV onwards. (IV you need to play the mobile version to have legitimate in Eng with party chat though, otherwise emulation)
- Monster recruiting is really only DQ Monsters. VI Has SOME monster recruiting, but no where near to the depths of V. Personally I never like monster party members, feel not that personable, especially in games with party chat.
-The atmospheric stuff is III onwards IIRC, at least the remakes of III.

Not caring about the story of V though is a damnable offense, but I'll let you slide in that more people in general need to experience the majesty of Dragon Quest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 12:28:18 2015 No.2864639 >>2863983 VIII has a monster recruiting side quest, but it's not retro.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 12:32:41 2015 No.2864649

What's the recommended entry game to the series? Ive been thinking of starting on the DQ5 remake for DS, then move my way up.
Im the kind of person that loves FF4 and 6 but had tto force my way through FF1 and couldnt stomach FF2. I liked the more " evolved" 16 bit games a lot more

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:01:56 2015 No.2864701

I suppose this is as good a place to ask as any.

I keep hearing a rumor that Enix planned to include a gay bar in one of the cities in Dragon Quest III, but Nintendo demanded that they remove it before they would allow Enix to publish the game on a Nintendo platform.

It's also rumored they were okay to include this content on the GBC remake of DW3, but I have no idea if they actually did. Can anyone who has played through the remake confirm this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:28:28 2015 No.2864739 >>2863983 You will love the shit out of DQ8 once you play it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:32:03 2015 No.2864742 File: 85 KB, 563x1000, 20151215_002153.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just started DQIII on GBC. What should I expect? Only other DQ game I've played was IX on the DS

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 13:40:36 2015 No.2864751 >>2864742 Somewhat similar class system to IX, although much more simple. III is one of my favorites, you're in for a treat. Was the first really great JRPG in my mind.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:54:43 2015 No.2864873 >>2864742 Old school charm, surprisingly good graphics for the GBC, and a ton of fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 19 14:55:52 2015 No.2864878 File: 94 KB, 697x500, 1b711e537d7a4064e7548cd81e27aba9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2864649 IV or VIII are the best entry games in my opinion, although DQ V is my favorite of the series.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 15:13:25 2015 No.2864920
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>>2864649

DQ then is pretty different from DQ now, especially due to Square merging with Enix, and the impact that had on localization quality. The newer localizations feel like completely different games to me. I honestly didn't care for them.

In my opinion, you should just emulate the original games in order, including translation patches for the Super Famicom titles. (Which, again, I think are preferable to the remakes)

>>2864742

3 is really overrated. Although there's a lot to do and explore, the plot itself is pretty thin, and the class system is rather pointless in execution, namely because there's no actual benefit to class changing in the first place. (Well, unless you want to do a ton of grinding both ways)

I found the first two games much more enjoyable, mandatory grinding aside. DQ2 is personally my favorite game in the series, by the way.

>>2864701

And does anyone know about this? I want to find a version of DQ3 that isn't bogged down by censorship changes, assuming this is even true.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:13:54 2015 No.2865173

>>2864920
>Recommending the Super Famicom translation patches
I would not do this unless you enjoy fitzing around with renaming save state files to the japanese version in the event of a game breaking bug

>the plot itself is pretty thin
Thinner than DQ 1 & 2? I think not. 3 has an objectively deeper and more meaningful storyline compared to 1 & 2.

>the class system is rather pointless in execution
Uh. . .
>namely because there's no actual benefit to class changing in the first place
wat

Bro, do you even know how to play the game you're talking about?
>No actual benefit for changing a Cleric into a Fighter to get good healing spells on a fast and tanky front-liner
>No actual benefit of changing a Wizard into a Dealer to have some good AoE spells on a front-liner with the late-game ability of detecting traps
>No actual benefit of changing a Jester into a Sage

I'm 90% sure you're retarded.

>>2864701

I've been up and down the first half of the game, and I have yet to find anything resembling a gay bar.

I HAVE found a woman giving powderpuff massage where it turned out it was actually her father giving it to you, but nothing about an actual gay bar.

Honestly, this sounds fake. As open as they are about sex in general, Japan still kind of frowns upon homos even today.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 18:31:16 2015 No.2865204

>>2865173
>No actual benefit for changing a Cleric into a Fighter to get good healing spells on a fast and tanky front-liner

Which sounds good in theory, but your stats are effectively halved when you class change. When you track and calculate your status growth after leveling with your new class, there's no actual improvement. This is especially crippling to magic classes, because they'll have so little MP to be of any long-term use in battle. Even worse, if you didn't have the foresight to learn the most potent spells for that class before changing over.

Research the mechanics for yourself if you don't believe me. There's a rather lengthy dissection of class growth rates over at GameFAQs.

>I'm 90% sure you're retarded

>I'm personally offended by your opinions about a video game, so now I'm going to call you retarded

Lovely. Nice talking to you, too.

Anonymous Sat Dec 19 19:44:17 2015 No.2865316

>>2865204
>Which sounds good in theory, but your stats are effectively halved when you class change. When you track and calculate your status growth after leveling with your new class, there's no actual improvement.

>Halve the stats of a level 20 for essentially a level 10 character
>At level 1
>Meaning by the time they get back up to level 10, they've essentially regained all lost stats
>Leveling to 10 takes literally 10 minutes tops, less time if you continue about your way

Nah, you don't know what you're talking about and are 100% retarded.

Anonymous Sun Dec 20 15:03:14 2015 No.2866519

>>2865204
So basically you haven't played the game at all.
It's entirely possible to play the game without changing classes, but you will absolutely end up with better, stronger, more varied characters by using the class change system.

The only time there's no benefit, is if you overuse the system. Class change too much and there actually will be no benefits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:43:48 2015 No.2867663 >>2864081 >-Party members talk in every game IV onwards. Even with what you said afterwards this is incredibly misleading. Party talk was introduced in 7 and appears in remade versions of older games only.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 04:50:29 2015 No.2867672

>>2865173
>I would not do this unless you enjoy fitzing around with renaming save state files to the japanese version in the event of a game breaking bug
Real men don't use save states! But it's true DQ6 has a real fuckup of a patch. I don't know why you're grouping the DQ5 patch in with it though, that one is quality and a fine way (and some might say best way) to play the game in English.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:09:04 2015 No.2867696 File: 97 KB, 640x560, 973fb42a07d71e24e4112bef8703fbea.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2867663 Sadly, I've only played the remake versions. When did day and night appear originally?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:32:20 2015 No.2867720 >>2867696 Pretty sure day and night first appeared in 3.

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 05:44:40 2015 No.2867730

>>2867696
>>2867720
Day and night did appear first in DQ3, but the funny part is DQ3 also created a canon reason why there was no night in DQ1 and 2.

The world that DQ1 and 2 take place in was the World of Darkness where Archefiend Zoma ruled and it was eternally night. After Erdrick/Ruto defeats Zoma, the world transformed into one where it's eternally daytime.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 06:17:15 2015 No.2867770 >>2865316 You have halved stat growths after class changing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:10:18 2015 No.2868245 >>2867770 Not in any version that matters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 13:14:06 2015 No.2868251 >>2868245 Which versions don't do it?

Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:17:39 2015 No.2868360

>>2868251
The only version that DOES do it is the NES. From what I understand, what goes on is the game checks your stat against a formula for what that stat SHOULD be at, and if the stat is under, it gives it an extra boost. Otherwise, it gives the stat normal growth rate, or even a lesser rate.

However, due the the randomization and variance of stat growth, you still usually wind up with a noticeable benefit even in the NES version.

Other versions are heavily dependent on your personality as opposed to your class. So if you want a lot of Str, its more important for you to get a personality like Bully than it is for you to be a fighter, though that definitely helps.

Regardless of stats, there is still a heavy benefit to doing a class change in general, and most of those benefits don't smooth out/go away until level 40, which is the level your hero needs to be to beat the game anyways, so by then you usually don't care too much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:32:40 2015 No.2868382 >>2865173 >>2865316 >I don't know what I'm talking about, but I'll just continue to argue the same blatantly wrong information and act like a huge faggot at anyone who doesn't agree with me because muh ego Neo /vr/, everyone

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 14:42:57 2015 No.2868398 >>2868382 >I'll samefag my post and call the anon retarded later on cause he said I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:16:50 2015 No.2869156 >>2867730 whomever came up with that one deserves a serious no-prize

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:18:39 2015 No.2869163 >>2869156 That's now how "whom" is used.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 21 23:26:18 2015 No.2869181 >>2869163 I always get usage mixed up

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:33:39 2015 No.2869485 I just finished I and II, SNES version. Now I'm going to start III, so I have two questions: SNES or GBC? Other versions are out of the question for reasons. Anything I should know before starting the game? Like, tips or something?

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 03:41:32 2015 No.2869490

>>2869485
The additional content of GBC is based on the SNES/SFC version, but with a dungeon added if you collect every monster medal. I've never done said dungeon, personally.

Aside from that, the GBC version is just a (very impressive and well done) 8-bit port of the SNES remix. That said, if you're already comfortable with the SNES control scheme and such, just keep on truckin' that way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 07:05:22 2015 No.2869610 >>2869490 I don't usually finish additional dungeons, if they have nothing to do with the story, and the SNES version does look nicer, so I guess I'll go with it. It's a shame I'll need to play IV on NES, though it doesn't look that bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:19:45 2015 No.2869735 Still me, the faget playing DQ5 for the first time. Game was easy as fuck but the final boss is kicking my ass. I need elven medicines, lots of it. Where can I buy? Also, I read there's a bonus dungeon after beating that motherfucker, is it worth it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 09:35:03 2015 No.2869754 I think they have great artwork and revolutionized the genre. I wish rpgs today still used turn based systems instead of the action rpg style. I got into them late. I have only played the first. I want to play 8 next.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 14:35:38 2015 No.2870231

>>2869485
>>2869610
So, did I do good with rolling my party? I have the hero, a fighter, a thief and a cleric.

The game looks great and the monsters' animations are simply amazing. The music is also pure gold.

I love the bag, it's the best change in the series. I hope it's bottomless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 15:08:18 2015 No.2870296 >>2869610 DS version is good dawg.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:40:04 2015 No.2870587
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>>2869610
IV on DS has an additional scenario after the main game that drastically alters the story and your perception towards some of the main characters.

I would def recommend playing that version.

Anonymous Tue Dec 22 17:54:49 2015 No.2870610

>>2870231
Prepare to grind if you don't have a Wizard.
You need either very high levels or the Bikill spell to have a chance against Baramos.
The Bikill spell is only learned by Wizards and Sages at level 21 and even if you class change someone to a Sage as soon as possible you will not reach that level at time without grinding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 21:20:49 2015 No.2870896 >>2870231 The animations are really great. The DS versions of IV-VI also have them, just so you know. I haven't played other versions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 22 22:06:37 2015 No.2870974 >>2870587 PSP has that and more.

Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:31:54 2015 No.2871351

>>2870296
>>2870587
>>2870974
>>2870896
Unfortunately, I don't have neither DS nor PSP. With emulation, that wouldn't be a problem, but I want to play it on my shitty tablet that can run anything up to SNES and GBA.

>>2870610
I don't really mind grinding a bit in oldschool JRPGs. Actually, my characters are already 10-12 level and I just got the Golden Crown from the Shanpane Tower.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 04:44:51 2015 No.2871361 >>2870974 You mean PS1? DQ4 was never released on PSP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 05:45:47 2015 No.2871404 >>2871361 Right, it's Japanese only though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 07:35:42 2015 No.2871480 >>2869163 Whom the hell cares?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 17:05:43 2015 No.2872092 >>2871351 >but I want to play it on my shitty tablet Dude, Dragon Quest IV is ON the android store. It's cheap and surprisingly good, and is considered one of the better versions of the game out there.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 21:01:07 2015 No.2872475 >>2840109 This. Heroes seems to end up far less than the sum of its parts. And that fucking dialogue/text speed? Ruined the game in less than an hour for me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:37:27 2015 No.2872605 Just played all of DW1 GBC on Sunday. Now been playing DW2 GBC this week. Going to see how many I can play in order before burning out. How are the English SFC ROMs for 5&6?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 23 22:54:04 2015 No.2872628 >>2872605 5 is fine, 6 is incomplete. You can finish the main story, but if you try to do any late game optional stuff you'll run into a bunch of NPCs speaking gibberish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 01:25:48 2015 No.2872813 I heard a lot of people don't like 6, as someone who never played it I would like to ask why people don't seem to like it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 02:25:14 2015 No.2872847 >>2872628 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 02:26:56 2015 No.2872849 >>2872813 The story isn't as engaging as V. It has it's charms, though. And some of the story episodes have some feels.

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 03:09:51 2015 No.2872883
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>>2813405

I actually came here to gush about how awesome DQ2 was. Then again I played the GBC version, which is supposed to be easier than the original. I've noticed that there's no real danger of running out of gold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 03:17:22 2015 No.2872890 File: 2.51 MB, 5000x5000, dq1vs2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2872883 Oh, and don't fall for Enix's lies about DQ2 being "4 times bigger" than DQ1.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 03:35:30 2015 No.2872896 >>2867696 What's going on in this pic?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 04:00:49 2015 No.2872910 >>2814978 >>2814132 You guys know that IV means 4 and not 7 right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 04:41:33 2015 No.2872954 >>2872092 By "shitty" I meant that it can't into 3D. Not even android games.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 05:05:19 2015 No.2872965 >>2872896 I have no idea. All I can tell is that Bianca is embarrased over something.

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 06:39:34 2015 No.2873029

>>2812727
Love them. V is my personal favourite. I really dig the battle system and how fast it is. Not using 3D models and overly bombastic animation but simple sprites for monster and prompt weapon/magic attacks. I like how every game really has that sense of an old-fashioned adventure yet it feels a bit different every time.

If I were to name a weak part of the games, I would say characters. Not that they are bad or anything but I always remember each game as an experience and hardly remember any actual character. In every game it feels like the characters form a perfect party and that's how I remember it. But it would certainly help if the characters were more individual and memorable on their own.

I played games I through VI. Really looking forward to VII and VIII on 3DS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:17:14 2015 No.2873191 >>2872896 If you're looking for a translation, it's literally her just screaming "AAAAAAA"

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 10:32:53 2015 No.2873214 File: 44 KB, 500x269, 1448091458519.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2872965 Basically this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 11:03:07 2015 No.2873238 File: 28 KB, 250x237, dragon warrior vii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want this fucking game to end already.

Anonymous Thu Dec 24 15:50:59 2015 No.2873560
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>>2873029
Your problem will go away with the original characters for VIII. Not sure about the new ones exclusive to 3DS, not retro though so....
Also V is top tier. Good man.

>>2872896
It's as >>2873214 said.

>>2872605
DW2 on GBC is literally the only DW/DQ game I've ever dropped. I've heard people on /vr/ praise it's accolades to the high heavens and back, but I always get burnt out before I finish finding all the seals or whatever. Hopefully you have better luck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 24 18:58:27 2015 No.2873779 What's a good Dragon Quest for a first-timer?

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 01:47:57 2015 No.2874240

>>2873779
1 or 8. Depends on how babby-tier you are.

>I can handle first-person maze like games for older game systems like the Commodore 64!
Start with 1, go in order.

>My first RPG was a final fantasy game!
Start with 8. Play heroes. Find the game which belongs to the characters you're most interested in. Play that.

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 04:40:02 2015 No.2874413

>>2874240
>My first RPG was a final fantasy game!
You're not being fair. There's nothing wrong with starting with FF games. My first JRPGs were Chrono Cross, FF7 and FF8. And I finished all oldschool FFs and DQ games in NES/SNES/PSX/GBA versions, not Android/iOS/DS/PSP remakes.

>>2873779
DQ1 for SNES is good, because it's simple. You could even say: rather primitive.
You may want to look at some walkthrough from time to time, to not waste hours looking for a key item.

Anonymous Fri Dec 25 16:23:51 2015 No.2875180

>>2874413
>You're not being fair.
No, I am being fair. My first RPG was actually Pokémon, then moved onto EarthBound and then FF IX and X, and I thought those were the hottest shits around. It's okay to swim backwards, but people who think of Final Fantasy when they think RPG will be put off by Dragon Quest old-style. I remember one of my friends way back when shat all over EarthBound because "You can't even see your characters when you attack!"

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 16:42:17 2015 No.2875204 File: 122 KB, 310x364, 1449944364859.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2873779 My first was the snes version of DQV. I recommend going V or IV, simple but enjoyable jrpgs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 25 22:06:03 2015 No.2875638 >>2873560 Got to the part where the game abruptly forces you to grind 15 levels to continue...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 26 20:56:14 2015 No.2877389 >>2873560 >>2873214 >>2872965 Uh, okay, but nothing in the 'memory' looks embarrassing. So that makes it confusing.

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 15:26:39 2015 No.2878763

Ok, my characters are close to lvl 20 in DQ3, but I don't feel like min-maxing, so I have a few questions.

Can I just forget about changing classes or will the game be too hard for me later on?

If I should change someone, what changes would be the best? I have a fighter, a thief and a cleric.

I was considering just changing my cleric into a sage and leaving the rest. Is that a good idea?

And if I change anyone's class, should I only do this once, or is it a good idea to change them again once they hit lvl 20 for the second time?

Anonymous Sun Dec 27 20:02:15 2015 No.2879230

>>2878763
>Can I just forget about changing classes or will the game be too hard for me later on?
You can totally get by without changing classes. and some people will prefer that. You lose potential utility. But, keep in mind, your characters have a shorter exp tree for the first 20 levels, and it takes only about 5-10 minutes outside of the tower to level them back up to 15, which they're very usable at.

>If I should change someone, what changes would be the best? I have a fighter, a thief and a cleric.
Personal recommendations:
Change the fighter into a cleric: You get a faster cleric than normal and get two people healing which is a huge benefit

the cleric into a fighter: You get a fast martial character with insane crit rate and backup healing and stat debuffs. Wouldn't recommend without changing the fighter into a cleric as well, as you need a dedicated healer.

Most recommended: the thief into a sage. There are some killer Wizard spells you need, you get a secondary cleric to heal with, your sage will be pretty buff on terms of attacking thanks to thief's str stat, if you're playing a non-NES version, thief has a nice pool of unused MP to play with, and unless you intend to grind for stat-seeds, the thief's usability drops significantly once they learn their last spell at 20, meaning you can swap with impudence.

>I was considering just changing my cleric into a sage and leaving the rest. Is that a good idea?
Cleric into Sage isn't BAD, but it's not optimal. Sage's gimmick is that it learns both spell lists for Wizard/Cleric. Not only would you have essentially wasted the cleric's first 20 levels, the benefit you get out of it isn't great. You still have a dedicated healer, but now you're shouldering ALL of the party's magic onto one person. Meaning if you need to debuff someone, buff someone else, and STILL heal everyone, you're going to be rather gimped on that.

>should I only do this once
Yes. Only once.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 10:36:15 2015 No.2880401 >>2879230 That sounds reasonable. I think I'll change classes after all and go with what you've suggested. Every party member having at least some healing magic doesn't sound bad. Thanks for the answers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 28 21:56:25 2015 No.2881528 III seems so good after just playing I and II Rolling with Hero/Warrior/Cleric/Cleric to start.

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 04:11:32 2015 No.2882179

>>2881528
>Hero/Warrior/Cleric/Cleric to start
As someone who just recently started, I can tell you there is no reason at all to roll two clerics. Hero + one cleric is enough for you not to need to use any healing items. At least until you hit level 20 when you can change classes like >>2879230 explained.
So I strongly suggest you change one of your clerics to fighter/thief/wizard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 09:34:06 2015 No.2882294 >>2812727 played dw3 just for the monster battles you could bet on.. i always bet on the metal slime :)

Anonymous Tue Dec 29 11:31:44 2015 No.2882449

>>2882179
Eh they are all 17/18 now, so now looking for advice on the respec more than anything. Thinking of keeping one of the Clerics until all spells learned at ~40 and changing other Cleric and the Warrior sooner.

Which to make Sage? What's a good stopping point for Cleric levels?

All female, Warrior is Quick, others are Sexy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 29 13:16:49 2015 No.2882675 >>2882449 Actually, I would just recommend turning one of your clerics into a Wizard and being done with it. All you need are two damage dealers, at least one and a half healers, and a wizard for end game.

Anonymous Wed Dec 30 00:43:08 2015 No.2883881

Started DQ2 today and is it cause im shit or is finding a lead on what to do next hard? I got the ship and the echo flute and I know I have to look for crests but I cant help but feel like I'm missing something. My highest lvl is 15, am I supposed to look for these crests now or did I fuck up?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 04:07:45 2015 No.2884148 >>2883881 You can do whatever you want in any order since it doesnt matter, find the keys, buy armour, find the crests, or just grind metal slime groups.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 05:26:52 2015 No.2884227 >>2882179 >Hero + one cleric is enough for you not to need to use any healing items. Hero alone is enough for you to not need to use any healing items.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 13:57:07 2015 No.2884929 >>2812727 Should I wait for the 3DS/possibly mobile rendition of VII or should I just go ahead with PS1? I've read up on some of the differences, the class system changes make me wonder why they bothered. Does it limit customization that much?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 14:02:28 2015 No.2884937 >>2884929 Just wait. At least that way you can buy it and support them for future releases, AND you'll get a better version basically that's on the go.

Anonymous Wed Dec 30 14:07:39 2015 No.2884941

>>2884929
Just go ahead and wait. Especially if you've played the DS versions. The differences are few outside of monsters being on the map and the class system changes, because it was fuckhuge to begin with. I hope they'll update VIII mobile though, probably won't.

>does it limit customization that much?
Not really. They filled in the Monster Heart levels that gain nothing with abilities to be re-learned (monster heart abilities can be used between classes, most normal classes can't share moves) so you're not really going to need a specific class for everything. Makes them a lot more important though, so be prepared to grind for them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 14:09:24 2015 No.2884946 >>2873029 Get the new wife put specifically in the DS version. I found her party chats absolute gold.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 30 17:31:22 2015 No.2885384 I got the DQ translation (instead of the Nintendo of America DW one) of DQ1 on an SNES emulator on my phone. Is this a better way to play than the actual Dragon Quest 1 android game?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 31 01:33:49 2015 No.2886227 >>2885384 Id say mobile is prob the best way to play desu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 31 10:16:01 2015 No.2886587 >>2885384 DQ1's isn't bad, most of DQ is good quality in porting. The problem though, is that for some reason they decided to shoehorn in a NES-styple localization. SNES fan-translation and GB are still the best experiences in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 31 10:18:46 2015 No.2886594 >>2886587 *style

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 1 08:10:42 2016 No.2888308 >Playing DQV on SFC Compact >Getting mauled in Santa Rosa cave >grinds in field >gets farted on by gassy minks erry time >gets rich Fun game 10/10

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 02:21:57 2016 No.2889971 Finally finished DQ2, jesus. Rhone takes forever to do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 03:02:06 2016 No.2890046 File: 63 KB, 418x403, dqiiibox_c1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2889971 Worst in the series, glad its over for you. Take a short break and make your way to III. or IV.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 03:08:20 2016 No.2890052 >>2890046 I wanted to go in chronological order so, which of the three versions of DQ3 should I play?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 04:05:26 2016 No.2890098 >>2890052 SNES looks better, but GBC has more content. Your choice. Either way, masturbate to the female Soldier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 04:37:02 2016 No.2890118 >>2890052 If you played the GBC versions of 1 & 2, and want all the items and names to be consistent, play the GBC version of 3. Otherwise play the SNES version.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 06:24:03 2016 No.2890185 >>2890052 DQ3 GBC has the board game minigame that's not in other versions iirc, play that one ios version is alright too

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 07:02:41 2016 No.2890220 >>2890185 SNES version has the board game too. Only thing the GBC version has that the SNES doesn't is the Monster Medals and the post-game dungeon that you need the medals for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 14:53:53 2016 No.2890768 Best version of IV to play?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 15:02:59 2016 No.2890792 >>2812727 I'm playing 1 with SNES 9X EX+ on my phone right now. I'm enjoying it. playing at 4x when trying to grind is a gd lifesaver as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 15:09:21 2016 No.2890804 >>2890768 Mobile, IIRC. It's like the DS version, except it has the party chat. Maybe some other things, too. I haven't jumped on it yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 16:22:57 2016 No.2890938 File: 847 KB, 1600x1200, IMG_4451[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want a slime plushie. Which one, in your opinion, is the best one to get? This one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 16:28:54 2016 No.2890952 >>2890804 Someone needs to backport that to DS someday.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 16:40:53 2016 No.2890976 >>2890938 I wonder if a metal slime one actually made of metal exists.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:33:16 2016 No.2891321 >>2846778 playing dressup is not only a good incentive to try new classes but also to encourage replays. very different play experience between standard knight armor tortoiseshell+panties.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 19:58:37 2016 No.2891363 >>2890976 you'd never be able to get your hands on one even if it did tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 2 20:55:01 2016 No.2891496 >>2846778 the downside to this is that you'll make poor decisions when buying equipment because you think it'll look worse.

Anonymous Sat Jan 2 21:05:46 2016 No.2891527

>>2890952
It's been tried. The party chat in that version actually has different coding that is incompatible with the DS version. The most anyone could do is probably inject the english text into the Japanese version, and that would require a shit load of work formatting, debugging, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 01:51:50 2016 No.2892067 >>2890098 >>2890118 >>2890185 Any glitches or bugs to look out for? I don't want to get tripped up like I and II did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 03:14:15 2016 No.2892262 Does it matter to go male or female on dq3? I saw that one post about bikini armor. So I'm curious.

Anonymous Sun Jan 3 05:07:30 2016 No.2892492

>>2892067
In the fan translation for FF3, the dealer class's appraise skill doesn't quite work right, some times they say the opposite of what they're supposed to say. But other than that minor glitch it's one of the best fan translations of a game out there.

>>2892262
Only females have access to the "sexy gal" personality type, which is the best personality type in the game for stat growth. That and the bikini armor are the only gameplay differences. It's not going to make a huge difference either way, so just pick whatever you want.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:09:25 2016 No.2893341 Which is better, the PS2 or DS version of Dragon Quest V?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 14:54:49 2016 No.2893446 >>2825830 I would take both 3DS Remakes, honestly. They both look lovely, and I really like them both for different reasons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 15:07:41 2016 No.2893472 >>2873238 you should only play vii if you've played all the other games and just want one last DQ that goes on forever. then you can savor it fully.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 17:15:16 2016 No.2893742 >>2890976 No, but a 1:1 blue and metal slime plastic figures exist, and I own both of them. They're boxed up and in my closet right now because I have no space to display them in my tiny fucking apartment, but still.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:04:42 2016 No.2893831 Anyone ever played the PS2 version of DQ5? I never seem to notice people talking about that game and I'm kinda surprised.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 18:52:38 2016 No.2893913 >>2893831 I own it, but I haven't played it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:01:13 2016 No.2894018 >>2893742 1:1? As in they're as big as they're supposed to be in the game? How big is that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:15:45 2016 No.2894041 >fire up DQ3 >make character >answer questionnaire >"Wow, you're a real piece of shit." fuck you too, game

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 20:20:06 2016 No.2894047 >>2894018 30cm x 30cm x 30cm http://www.play-asia.com/dragon-quest-11-scale-soft-vinyl-figure-slime/13/702adq I payed less than this price for them, but I could probably get close to that price for them now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 21:33:47 2016 No.2894139 >>2894041 >Fire up DQ3 >Make character >Answer Questionnaire >"HOLY SHIT YOU ARE THE MOST VALIANT HERO EVER AND YOU'RE SO GREAT CAN I LITERALLY SUCK YOUR DICK RIGHT NOW?" I don't have a problem with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 3 22:38:14 2016 No.2894253 >>2894139 >>2894041 >Fire up DQ3 >Follow guide for sexy hero

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 04:44:43 2016 No.2894796 >>2894041 Protip: You get a better personality if you're not a fedora faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 4 04:58:00 2016 No.2894808 >>2894047 >http://www.play-asia.com/dragon-quest-11-scale-soft-vinyl-figure-slime/13/702adq >$309.99 Holy shit, it's not even a metal slime. Is "vinyl" some slang for "platinum"? Is NES version of DQIV any good? How is the translation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 5 04:51:06 2016 No.2896647 File: 101 KB, 850x637, Dragon Quest V.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2893341 >>2893831 I played ONLY ps2 version so I can't compare it to snes & nds versions, but the game was great so I highly recommend it to anyone interested.

Anonymous Tue Jan 5 14:38:50 2016 No.2897337

>>2894808
>Holy shit, it's not even a metal slime. Is "vinyl" some slang for "platinum"?

Yeah, they're both made of vinyl, and because they're pretty darn limited, part of a special promotion, and fucking huge, they're pretty expensive these days. The metal one goes for even more on ebay, there's one up for auction right now where the guy is asking $600+ for one, he probably won't get that, but still.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 13:26:56 2016 No.2899516 >>2894041 Seriously. And it was completely accurate

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 21:22:44 2016 No.2900447 What's your favorite location in the DQ games? I really love the sunken city in DQ6. Underwater places are always mega comfy to me. Only things better were the entire underwater exploration from FF5 and Lufia 2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 6 21:50:13 2016 No.2900487 >>2900447 Rhone, most of the locations in DQII for that matter, that game has probably the best aesthetic/atmosphere of any DQ for some reason, and the music was some of Sugiyama's best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 7 23:53:14 2016 No.2902414 >>2821935 I had to youtube it as well. Plus in my DQ1 file when I beat the first form of the dragon lord I got the inn dialogue when he transformed. Shit was weird.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 00:00:34 2016 No.2902430 File: 19 KB, 255x163, 1449618614066.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2889971 >Explodet >Explodet >Explodet >Explodet >Explodet >Explodet

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 01:26:00 2016 No.2902542 >>2847041 Maybe with Party Talk.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 03:13:44 2016 No.2902636 >>2902542 >Party Talk this >Party Talk that Party talk isn't that great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:18:55 2016 No.2903786 >>2902636 You get more immersion with the characters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:32:39 2016 No.2903817 >>2903786 This. Every time some fuckhead in Japan gets the bright idea to port a JRPG to America without the Party Chat it should just be standard operating procedure to simply have him dragged out behind the building and shot.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:36:46 2016 No.2903819

>>2890052
I played GBC for 1 and SNES for 3. 3 has too much going on for that tiny screen IMO even though I prefer official translations, and it just looks *so* much better. DQ1+2 SNES is based off the DQ5 engine which is pretty archaic by SNES RPG standards but DQ3 SNES is based off the DQ6 engine which is up there with Square's late efforts.

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:41:06 2016 No.2903826

So I'm playing through 3 right now and really enjoying it, I've played 5, 1, and 4 (in that order) and the only one I didn't care for was 4. Why does everyone like it so much? It lacks the character drama of 5, the sense of exploration and isolation of 1, and the customization of 3. It just seemed so dull by comparison.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 8 19:43:12 2016 No.2903832 >>2814961 >i really like x >wait, how can you like x >i meant y >SURE LOL

Anonymous Fri Jan 8 20:07:09 2016 No.2903872

>>2903826
Dragon Quest IV is liked because of how it tells the story being somewhat unique among its contemporaries. Everyone's story arc and motivations are laid out before the party even meets up, essentially. This may be common now, but on the NES, it was a very new approach.

That, and despite the character drama not being there as much as V through VIII, the characters themselves were likable, if not archetypal.

TL;DR - It's kind of a "you had to be there"/"look at it for what it did in 19xx" game, but still solid. Even if not exemplary.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:48:01 2016 No.2904564

>>2903786
It's nice as a guide feature, but honestly 90% of the time they don't have much to say, and any argument about "immersion" is broken the second you try talking to them twice in a row, MAYBE three times.

It's nice to have, but anyone with >>2903817's level of reaction is insane. Killing someone over not including a pretty boring feature that's meant for brain dead retards who forgot where they were? Nah man, just fucking nah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 02:49:45 2016 No.2904567 >>2903832 >Giving a shit what an anonymous person thinks of you Having social anxiety problems this bad must be crippling for you. Most other people would just not respond past that point. Wow, problem solved.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 03:21:29 2016 No.2904628

>>2904567
You didn't really understand that post, did you? If people don't know what you're talking about, then discussion becomes invalid and we can all revert to slinging memes at each other. It has nothing to do social anxiety or caring about what other people think of you.

Anonymous Sat Jan 9 12:50:19 2016 No.2905217

>>2904628
I honestly don't think you understand how 4chan works in general if you can say stupid shit like that. It's not as though what he said was full of garbage text, people CAN understand what he meant, he just decided to correct himself on a completely pointless irrelevant detail because he was afraid of hav-

I have been through this already. Read the rest of the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 12:55:28 2016 No.2905230 No one wants to read your stupid personal argument post more DQ

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 16:32:29 2016 No.2905662 >>2905230 Fine. Just finished DQ3 snes version, going to start DQ4 for nes. Anything I should know before I do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 18:07:57 2016 No.2905846 >>2905662 The DS version is better if you don't mind reading accents.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 19:07:08 2016 No.2905956 >>2905846 I personally fucking hated the accents, but stuck with the DS version for the game play improvements (the controls felt better if that makes any sense for an old school JRPG).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 19:27:19 2016 No.2905978 >>2905662 I'm with the guy supporting the DS version, honestly I find the accents more tolerable than YE OLDE ENGLISHE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 19:52:26 2016 No.2906025 >>2905662 The worst part of the NES version is when you get to chapter five, all the party members other than the hero will be AI controlled, and they can be dumb as fuck. It's not so bad that it make the game unplayable, but it's still annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 20:51:31 2016 No.2906116 >>2906025 Really? Shit I'd have to recommend the DS one even more then, that sounds awful

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 22:28:02 2016 No.2906291 >>2812727 Nah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 22:29:50 2016 No.2906292 >>2906025 That's changeable in your tactics menu, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 9 23:23:00 2016 No.2906406 >>2905978 It's a good thing DQIV is in plain English on NES then, huh

Anonymous Sun Jan 10 01:41:08 2016 No.2906590

>>2905956
I'm actually enjoying the accents, having just come off fresh from Heroes. I honestly don't know what everyone's beef with the accents are. I find them charming.

Also, in another note, I want my friend to experience Dragon Quest/Warrior 1+2, but the RPGOne patch I played was extremely glitchy, especially in 2. Are there any other patches out there besides theirs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 10 04:24:55 2016 No.2906784 >>2906292 The tactics they use are changable, but the NES version doesn't have an option where you can control them. The remakes do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 10 05:16:46 2016 No.2906823 Why does Hori Meijin wear the black boy scout outfit?

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