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2805110 No.2805110 [Reply] [Original]

Best retro review websites you know of?

No youtubers or HG101 please - both of them are cancerous and the latter is literally the IGN of retro video gaming.

>> No.2805132

moby games and game faqs - for the search functions, I don't read message boards
tasvideos.org, SGDQ/AGDQ speedruns on youtube
mamedb, proggetto emma
vimm.net, emucr - for emulator news
warosu - for the /vr/ archive :)

>> No.2805217

>>2805110
Not really about retro game reviews, and there's no new content any more, but sydlexia.com has some decent articles on retro games. It focuses more on just retro games, tv and pop culture in general.

What makes HG101 retro IGN? I don't think anyone's paying them to make the retro games look better than they are. I'll agree that there needs to be more retro review sites though.

>> No.2805234

>>2805217
people repeat the shit they say like it's gospel, even when they are completely wrong

>> No.2805245

>>2805234

Examples?

>> No.2805258

>>2805110
>No youtubers
What do you mean by this? Any Youtube channels that discuss retro games, or e-celebs who discuss retro games?

I think there's a big difference between the two.

>> No.2805281

Gamefaqs is good for the guides, maps, and the imdb style rankings of games.

>> No.2805298

>>2805110
OP is faget for making me think there'd be another "complaining about HG101 thread."

>> No.2805303

>>2805258
For whatever reason people hate youtubers.

Yet they praise articles like the second coming of christ when its the same shit just in a different medium.

I think people just associate youtube with pewdiepie and cheap dirty content.

Granted, a lot of youtube is shitty content, with things like "did you know gaming" and "game theory" just being full of retarded shit no one cares about, but theres still some quality content out there.

>> No.2805361

>>2805303
>just in a different medium.
Exactly. It's a different medium. Movies and books aren't the same, video and written articles are most definitely not the same either.

With articles, the author is usually in the background and the way humor is conveyed, if there's any humor present at all, is usually shorter, blunt and doesn't detract or "take time" from the reader like a video does, and overall the fact you can read at your own pace instead of having to sit through some millennial's idea of what being funny means makes it a hell of a lot better. The norm with articles is that WHAT YOU'RE SAYING is what matters.

In order to be a "YouTubers", the guy who makes the video HAS to take over the whole video. It's not "SMB Review", it's "THIS GUY reviews SMB, THIS GUY YOU GUYS!!! THIS GUY RIGHT OVER HERE LOOK AT ME". That's why people hate/dislike them. It's not about what is being said, is about WHO says it, and the information conveyed usually suffers because of this attention whoring.

Granted, some videos do prioritize content instead of having to watch some faggot making funny faces and trying to pull off shitty visual gags. But these are a minority, and should be differentiated, like >>2805258 suggests.

>> No.2805381

>>2805245
Fairly certain he doesn't have any

I swear it's one guy who keeps making these threads to complain about HG101.

>> No.2805393

>>2805217
sydlexia's top 100 lists were bad, they don't even like half the games but still put them on their lists

>> No.2805404

>>2805381
Not him, but I can think of some of the top of my head. Saying Ganstream Saga was a sequel to Terranigma, thrashing BoFIV and calling it and the antagonist a Final Fantasy 7 rip-off. Saying Idea Factory was known as Idea Fuck in 2ch (not that I am defending Idea Factory). Honestly defending Wand of Gamelon as an underrated gem. Their fighting game articles are total garbage, never saying anything about the games themselves. Whining about sexism in pc98 pornagraphic visual novels.
There's probably more, I don't read hg101 much these days.

>> No.2805416

Classic Game Room

>> No.2805429
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>>2805110
>No HG101
>Post an image of their logo as the OP image.
It's like a blatant attempt at reverse psychology.

>> No.2805437

>>2805404
>Whining about sexism in pc98 pornagraphic visual novels.
The Japanese only porn computer? Why would you do that?

>> No.2805446

>>2805404
>Their fighting game articles are total garbage
Their fighting game articles are mostly just character bios and they don't even get that right. Like this gem from the Slam Master article.
>A reckless ill-tempered friend and rival of Biff Slamkovich. Rumored to be a brother to Guile from Street Fighter II, though Capcom has said this is not the case. If Biff is Slam Master's Ryu, Gunloc is it's Ken.
Capcom never denied anything about Guloc's relation with Guile. It was a fucking regional change which they actually referenced in the arcade version of the Street Fighter movie game.

>> No.2805449

>>2805429
I don't know about reverse psychology so much as it being a thinly veiled "let's fight about YouTube reviewers and HG101" thread.

>> No.2805462

The Video Game Critic's alright, but he's mostly useful for the sheer number of game's he's reviewed. He's played everything. His reviews of modern games are so bad that it makes me wonder if his other reviews are worth shit.

>> No.2805787

>>2805404
I've never seen anyone parrot those opinions.

>> No.2805895

>>2805437
I thought it was funny that Kimimi was pissed about people associating pc98 with fuck sims.

>> No.2805961

>>2805787
I've seen the whole "GrandStream Saga is SoulBlazer IV" thing spread on Wikipedia and TV Tropes though.

>> No.2805962

Roo from CotGW.

>> No.2805983

>>2805961
>Action RPG by Quintet with similar themes to Quintet's SNES Action RPGs is thought of as the 4th game in a series

Absolutely wild.

>> No.2806001 [DELETED] 

>>2805787
You must not post here often.

>> No.2806014

>>2806001
Nah, maybe someone just wanted to make a thread to bitch about HG101 and are coming up with things that don't happen.

Also, I don't get the argument behind "parroting" ideas. No one has a monopoly on opinions or ideas.

You probably think that I'm "parroting" the fact that I love Final Fantasy V more than the rest of the games in the series because of the job system. Am I supposed to make up some bullshit that I like about the game just so I can be a younique snowflake in a sea of opinions?

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There is none because you are a temperamental jackass.

>> No.2806189

>>2806001
Aside from /m/ I spend more time on this board than any of the others.

>> No.2806204

>>2805404
Fuck I thought a bit about Idea Factory was true, fuck these people. Was the part about them being universally despised in Nippon correct though?

>> No.2806242

>>2805983
Policenauts is an adventure game by Kojima. That doesn't mean it's Snatcher 2. Soul Blazer is barely a trilogy as it is.

>> No.2806254

>>2806204
No one can "speak on behalf" of all Japanese. That's the point. The thing is that no one used the nickname before but now thanks to HG101 it stuck.

>> No.2806278 [DELETED] 

>>2806204

It's like saying someone named Nintendo Nintenyearolds and Sony Soniggers on 4chan, that means ALL westerners hate Nintendo and Sony.

>> No.2806285

>>2806204
It's like saying, because I saw someone using the words Nintendyearolds and Soniggers on 4chan, that means ALL Westerners hate Nintendo and Sony.

>> No.2806293

>>2805393
>sydlexia
He's an elitist faggot anyways.

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>>2805110
I honestly never watch any retro reviews. I try out games and buy the ones I like. Btw a few collector friends, my local retro vidya game store, and emulation there isn't many games I can't test for myself.

>> No.2806306

There is nothing wrong with hcg101, it is just written by a lot of people so the quality varies.

>> No.2806324

>>2805983
The lead designer is different and he himself has said that Granstream is disconnected from the rest of the games. He also said that ActRaiser is part of the "series", if they even exist to begin with.

Of course for Wikipedia and the like HG101>what the game dev said ("primary sources"?)

It absolutely does not have "similar themes" unless you're extremely liberal about what "similar" means, anyway.

>> No.2806451

>>2806306
yeah, hg101 had better articles with stuff like old korean pc games for example.

>> No.2806476

>>2806451
derboo can be pretty cool when he's not bitching about soggy knees.

>> No.2806484

>>2806476
But muh Valis Gross.

Yeah, when the articles are purely informative they're mostly good, sometimes mediocre if the information is common or not that in depth. When there are purely opinion pieces it all goes to shit, see the Mother 2 or Chrono Trigger articles. They're probably the worst I've read in ANY site, outside of Gamefaqs user reviews. The DQVIII article also tried to go all "I hate DQ lel", but it wasn't cute either. I think the problem is the writers really can't write for shit unless it's just informative pieces.

>> No.2806487

>>2806304
this

>> No.2806502

>>2806484
>But muh Valis Gross.
I don't mind his bitching about Valis Cross that much though (they literally did whored out the franchise). It's his constant whining about Hideki Kamiya and PlatinumGames that triggers me.

>> No.2806516

>>2806502
What even is this thing you're speaking of?

>> No.2806519

>>2806516
Valis Cross, or Derboo's hatred of Platinum?

>> No.2806536

>>2806519
So what's that?

>> No.2806538

>>2806536
Valis Cross (or Valis X, as it is officially spelled) is an officially licensed porn parody of the old Valis games that came out a few years ago.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/valis/valis6.htm

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>>2806538
Weabo shit. Why didn't you say so?

>> No.2806547

>>2806543
Because you're a lazy ass who doesn't know how to use Google.

>> No.2806548

>>2806547
I google. I just don't castrate myself looking up faggot nonsense.

>> No.2806592

>>2805110

HG101 has tons of different articles made by tons of different people. It's kinda hard to generalize the entire website.

>> No.2806602

>>2805895
Why I mean that's what a lot of it's library is. Porn Doujin games and 2hu.

>> No.2806609

>>2806547
>>2806548
This is why you don't spoonfeed.

>> No.2806615

RPGfan's reviews still go to older.

>> No.2806623

>>2806242
>>2806324
Idiots....

>> No.2806627

>>2805361
This guy is right, and furthermore I would like to add that an article is much easier to get the information quickly and in a useful manner. I can skim it. I can copy and paste. I can immediately see how its organized and if I should skip the intro where the author tells a long boring personal story.

The advantage of video is that you can actually see (duh) video of the game in action with relevant commentary, but that's rarely needed for a retrospective or review, and if you really want to show an example of something you can always add it to the text.

>> No.2806636

>>2806623
I hope you're not the kind of person who goes around calling every Spielberg movie an E.T. sequel.

>> No.2806639

>>2806623
>I know better than the person who DESIGNED AND WROTE the video games I'm talking about
'kay.

>> No.2806646

>>2805217
I personally like them, but I'm salty as fuck they haven't done a write up of the Double Dragon series.

>> No.2806651

>>2806646
Did they ever do a Contra writeup either?

>> No.2806665

>>2806602
She's full of shit anyway. All she does is autofellate on twitter and brag about all the shit she owns.

>> No.2806676

Find some old issues of Gamefan magazine. The gaming press wasn't exactly that great when these games were new either, that's the single publication that I can recommend you.

>> No.2806691

>>2805110
hg101 does some pretty good articles on very obscure stuff. untold history of jap game dev is another story tho

>> No.2806695

>>2806691
I feel the other way around, despite the drama surrounding Kaku and Sketcz.

>> No.2806706

>>2806695

The bullshit drama surrounding that actually made me avoid his book in any form. I cannot possible trust such a flaky individual to report accurately on what was said during his interviews (if indeed many of them even took place).

>> No.2806710

>>2805303
>game theory

It's by far the most forced wannabe geek piece of shit on youtube. They pull stuff out of their asses and force a lot of their "theories". The comparison between chrono trigger and the bible seriously made me cringe so hard that all my face muscles busted and i need a plastic surgery.

>> No.2806739

>>2806636
>>2806639
Morons...

>> No.2806741

>>2806710
Bro how can you not see Chronic Trigger and the Bible being related? There's a church, the main character's name stars with "Chr" just like my homeboy Jesus Christ, AND he dies and gets resurrected later.

>> No.2806750

>>2806741
Also the gurus are named after the three wise men because that's totally in the Japanese version as well lel

I love Chrono Trigger but I don't understand why fans wank so much over it to the point of overanalysis. I can understand doing that to Cross which practically screams "OVERANALYZE ME", but Chrono Trigger is a romp of DBZ wacky antics and yet it keeps attracting a bunch of pretentious hipsters.

>> No.2806754

>>2806741
His name is Crono, not Chrono. And I'm pretty sure there are no mentions to alien parasites leeching the planet and destroying all life. Let alone dinosaurs, time travel, robots, etc.
2/10 because I replied

>> No.2806761

>>2806754
I was making fun of how poorly they grasp for straws m8. Figured calling Jesus my homeboy would have made it obvious I was joking.

>> No.2806764

>>2806739
Hey. Did you Dead Rising is actually Resident Evil 8. It's true cause it's a Capcom franchise that involves zombies.

>> No.2806767

>>2806761
Had my fair share of wackos saying crazy shit here without baiting or being ironic. I can1t dectet irony anymore. My bad.

>> No.2806771

>>2806304
Well reviews are usually not only for saying that a game is good or is bad, but also to "this game exists" and get exposure that otherwise you wouldn't know about it.

>> No.2807018

>>2805404
>Their fighting game articles are total garbage
Oh boy, I'm in no way a fighting game expert but I was a Guilty Gear XX enthusiast. But their article really gave me the impression that the author only played a few games before writing it.
No mention of the different systems and subtleties, or the gameplay offered by each characters.

>> No.2807347

>>2807018
A lot of their series overviews are like that, where it's obvious the author only wrote it because only cared or played one game and just glossed over the rest. Their Kunio article is pretty awful and the Final Fight article spends more time talking about Poison's penis than the actual games.

>> No.2807352

You know, maybe I just don't look in the right places, but I've found all the retro I could ever want in /vr/. Prolly won't last much longer though, from the way I hear other people talk.

>> No.2807397

>>2807347
zzz's gone though. They really need to re-write his articles, he was awful.

>> No.2807443

>>2807397
The Final Fight article was by zzz? I thought that was Kurt's?

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>>2807443
Sorry, my mistake - I was thinking of the beat-em-ups article that he did.

On the other hand I kind of miss zzz because sometimes it's nice to have someone/something to hate unconditionally and without fear of judgment from anyone else.

>> No.2808141

>>2805962

I find that guy so hard to look at. It's like he's made out of cake batter. He looks like he's going to just collapse into a puddle someday.

>> No.2808728

>>2807449
Whatever happened to your friend anyway? I know he got kicked off from the forum after showing that Holocaust picture to wyrdwad.

>> No.2808795

vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/v/'s_Recommended_Games_Wiki

>> No.2809578

>>2808141
He just looks like a generic nerdy guy. He also never uploads 16-bit gems anymore and does that dumb podcast I don't watch.

>> No.2811552

I like illusionware.

>> No.2811560

>>2808795

This. Needs moar screenshots, though.

>> No.2811568

>>2808728
I hope for his sake that he got a life. I'm pretty sure that if he found a nice girl that would let him penetrate her he'd see the error of his ways.

>> No.2811580

>>2805110
Classic game room will always be my favorite.
It's been around since the dawn of time and I like how mark will always try to find something good about a game no matter how shitty it is.
I can't tell if he's just a really positive person or if he gets buyers remorse

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>>2811580
He does shit talk games on rare occasions.
>Game so bad even Mark can't find anything good about it
That's when you know you goofed.

>> No.2811946

>>2811568
>I'm pretty sure that if he found a nice girl that would let him penetrate her he'd see the error of his ways.
This sounds like something Jason X would say.

>> No.2813480

>>2811946
I see what you did there :).

Anyway I really wanted to do something productive with my life about /vr/ related shit but at this rate I feel like there's no point. Especially when your target audience will hate or (in most cases) be indifferent to you out the gate. And there's just too much shit out there already.

>> No.2815896

>>2806651
they did but they have separate sites for Contra and Castlevania stuff. You can still sort of access the old HG101 version without pictures.

>> No.2817508

>>2805110

http://postback.geedorah.com/archivo.html

Unfortunately, it is not being updated anymore and is only available in Spannish, BUT... the texts are wonderfull - well written, and extreamly well informed. I can't read Spannish but a couple of them were translated in the past and I've used Google to translate some more (not very good I know, but you can still get what the guy is saying).
Also, those are proably the best screenshots of old games on the Internet.

>> No.2817837

>>2817508
I CAN read Spanish and I can also tell you those reviews are pretentious as hell, just in case you couldn't tell by the forced CRT filters on all screenshots and by how verbose it gets without being that informative. Pretentiousness =/= information, anon.

Also the layout is absolutely fucking terrible, good luck telling what the games they review are unless you recognize a tiny portion of their screenshots (with CRT filters of course lol).

>> No.2817846

>>2805110
not retro

>> No.2817867

>>2817837
>I CAN read Spanish and I can also tell you those reviews are pretentious as hell
It is. I actually know Recap (the site's maintainer) from other forums in the past and he's a pretentious weeaboo who refuses to acknowledge localized versions and western gaming in general, and shits on 3D gaming completely. It's not surprise he used to be best buds with Icycalm for a while until Icy started calling him out on his own forums.

>> No.2818123

Don't know if this is retro but anyone using Vizzed? Boasts a bigger database than even MobyGames, supposedly

>> No.2818195

Didn't /vr/ had some kind of project where anons wrote their reviews or articles of games? Or am I being retarded and thinking about an old already killed chan in my country? It is a good idea though, at least until the inevitable ego starts, like it always happens

>> No.2819287

>>2817837
Haha, I actually like the layout! I get where you're coming from, of course, but I'm just not bothered by the fact that you have to click on the pic (or hover over it) to get to the actual title. It would be a problem if there were more reviewed titles, but right now it's fine.

Being dismissive about localizations does not bother me either. Most of the localized games do suffer from bad box art and slight changes and censored details so it's better to focus on the original, if at all possible. I'm familiar with author's bashing of 3D and western games on various online forums, but since he is solely focusing on Japanese 2D games in his reviews that does not concern me either, even if I don't agree with it.

I believe it's very good that he approaches the subject of old Japanese 2D games seriously and the few reviews I could read were much better written than what you can find on other sites that deal with similar subjects.

CRT filters are also OK by me. They give the websites' screenshots a distinctive look that you cannot see anywhere else, and look closer to what you would see on a real CRT.

>> No.2820747

>>2806592
This. Sure, some of their articles are SJW propaganda or commercials for shitty indie games made by SJWs but many other articles are cool. Excluding the Zelda CD-i article which is biased as well, made by a hipster that wanted to say the opposite thing that most reasonable people say about this piece of crap.

>> No.2820878

>>2805462
He spends more time reviewing sports games than other games

He's good for a quick resource, but he's very opinionated and his reviews are too short to give a good idea of what the game is

>> No.2820879

>>2820747
>This. Sure, some of their articles are SJW propaganda or commercials for shitty indie games made by SJWs but many other articles are cool.
There's too many loud left-wing idiots and special snowflakes on their forum though.
>Excluding the Zelda CD-i article which is biased as well, made by a hipster that wanted to say the opposite thing that most reasonable people say about this piece of crap.
Did you actually play CDi Zelda games? Shitty cutscenes aside, the two side-scrolling ones don't seem that bad based on the actual game portions.

>> No.2820889

>>2805404
you know they're more than happy to fix incorrect information if you email them about it, right?

>> No.2820892

>>2805416
Can someone explain to me why anyone recommends CGR? I've watched plenty of videos from the guy and they're just poorly done. He never has interesting shit to say and just sort of scratches the surface of the game. It's like a back of the box description of the game with him saying it's either good or bad.

>> No.2820896

>>2820889
I actually pointed quite a few errors back when I was still posting there, which they never got around to fixing.

>> No.2820916

>>2820892
People mostly recommend him because of his more laidback attidue when it comes to making videos. Not very worthwile outside of the videos for really old consoles like the 2600 or the SG-1000.

>> No.2820963

>>2805217
I'm not sure what OP means by the IGN of retro gaming, but HG101 has jumped on the SJW bandwagon so that's reason enough to avoid them.

>>2805258
E-celebs are not a real thing and do not exist.

>>2805361
>In order to be a "YouTubers", the guy who makes the video HAS to take over the whole video.
Maybe you should watch something other than Pewdiepie.

>> No.2821016

>>2820963
>I'm not sure what OP means by the IGN of retro gaming, but HG101 has jumped on the SJW bandwagon so that's reason enough to avoid them.
Yeah. Kurt once ordered his moderators to change the avatar of anyone who uses the term "SJW" in their forums with a photo of Anita Sarkeesian. Not sure if it's still in effect.

>> No.2821021

>>2820879
A year ago I would have argued that there's good things on the forum too but you're right; it's painful to go there. I mean, aside from trying to stir up shit (sadly the Play Asia thing resolved itself peacefully)

>>2821016
It is. IIRC it only happened to one guy though.

>> No.2821060

>>2821016
Is Kurt a current or former goon or do socially just minds think alike?

>> No.2821070

>>2821016
Wasn't that just a "Could you shut up about it already?" thing because sometimes we want to discuss things without someone bringing up that pedophile-defender?

>> No.2821075

>>2821070
You mean wyrdwad?

>> No.2821092

>>2821060
He probably just took the idea from them.

>> No.2823001

>>2821060
He's from within 100 miles of the east coast and I think there's just some kind of unholy being that lives underground just off the shore near Coney Island that prods people into being obsessed with fighting battles for others that don't need to be fought for. You know, because it's just really fucking bored and wants to see people act like assholes.

Aside from that and what it entails he's an alright guy. I guess all of us need a crippling character flaw.

>>2821070
That's how I interpreted it at first, but his unwillingness to accept that there might actually be some guys on the other side of the argument that aren't terrorists puts a kibosh on that. I dunno, I'm guessing someone sent him or a friend threats or something (I know that's why he hates Agness Kaku).

>> No.2823187

>>2820892

I like CGR for the same reason I like GITCY

Their reviews may not be very in depth, but they do bring up some obscure games I never heard about to my attention.

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>>2817508
>http://postback.geedorah.com/archivo.html

>I CAN read Spanish and I can also tell you those reviews are pretentious as hell, just in case you couldn't tell by the forced CRT filters on all screenshots and by how verbose it gets without being that informative. Pretentiousness =/= information, anon.

Hi. Recap here. And even I myself can agree to that. But have you seen the date of those pages? They're from ten years ago. Show me a Spanish-language website from those years or earlier with better reviews and editorials, both, information-wise and style-wise. You'll have troubles even finding one in whichever Western language, I'd bet. But yeah; some reviews do stink for not being as informative as their unrestrained verbiage would suggest. Many others, though, are translation-worthy, even for these days.

>> No.2823410

>>2823391

>Also the layout is absolutely fucking terrible, good luck

There's an alphabet-based index linked right in the browse column. The "Archive of Issues" page (titled like this there in the very head) is nothing more than a list of the Site's issues since it got the updates in such a way -- like a non-periodical magazine with some sort of mini-cover (now collected and dismantled into that link list). It's of course part of the "pretentiousness" if you want to see it so, but a less shortsighted approach may let you appreciate it for its uniqueness. The merits of Postback (if may I) actually resided in the whole revolutionary concept. It's a one-man effort about properly illustrating for the West how superior the Japanese video-games were back when the "-games" part actually had a meaning, and how many misconceptions still remain in the minds of the average enthusiasts to fully enjoy the pieces from a technical and mechanical standpoint as well as to understand their actual backgrounds and context. You can find these days uncontable forum threads and blog posts on how real-time polygons can never be a substitute for dot art, or the wonders of 15-kHz RGB and CRTs, or the disgrace of upscaled visuals for low-res games on low-res-capable systems, or the idiocy involved in continuing by the use of extra credits, or the sweetness of Sanwa/Seimitsu parts against the X-Arcade and co., or the handheld gaming infamy (well, this one, not so much I guess, though I still have hope), but 10-15 years ago? Just my ass.

In the end, Postback is a failed project since I never had the time and patience to properly develope all the ideas and criticize a significant amount of the seminal pieces, but Postback 2.0 never left the kitchen, so well, you never know.

(My first post here -- somebody pointed me to this discussion; not used to these boards at all so bear with me.)

>> No.2823602

>>2823410
Are you really Recap? Do you know anything about the rumors of Icycalm's death? Also, where the hell is Joshua Farrelly and what's up with his Vegan bodybuilding obsession?

>> No.2823630

Ancient DOS Games

http://www.pixelships.com/adg/index.html

175 episodes of retro DOS game reviews

Wouldn't call it the best, but still... not very well known so it's worth recommending.

>> No.2823659

>>2823630
Oh god, that guy spends every "review" laying out the entire game like it's a strategy video. Does he really think people are getting a hankering to go play the entirety of the game after watching? No, we want to see the dumb DOS game so we don't have to play it, or just have our nostalgia validated.

>> No.2823673

>>2820892
>He never has interesting shit to say and just sort of scratches the surface of the game. It's like a back of the box description of the game
this is what people want game reviews to be

>> No.2823887

>>2823391
You are indeed pretty pretentious, but at least you're not one of the dimwits posting at TNL.

>> No.2823891

>>2823410
Hey man, thank you for writing that Die Bahnwelt article so many years ago. I didn't read much of Postback, but I caught my first glimpse of Glodia's action games at least.

>> No.2825034

>>2820892
>Can someone explain to me why anyone recommends CGR?

Because they are fucking retarded.

>> No.2825964

XboxAhoy. Dude's a brit that grew on 8bit computers. Despite the name he has a good number of informative and well researched retro videos.

>> No.2825970

>>2805110
I don't know about you but HG101 is a pretty good website

you can sift through all the opinions (if they bother you) and basically just get good recommendations and games that are similar to other ones.. There's also good knowledge about certain developers too so there's that also

>>2820892
>Can someone explain to me why anyone recommends CGR?
they're funny/calm and collected

>> No.2826185

>>2805110
Here's a definitive list of all sites that aren't shit:

>> No.2826481

>>2825970
A lot of their reviews for older games (particularly those written by Kulata) tend to trigger me. Especially when it comes to arcade games (it's like Kurt misses the point of arcade gaming).

>> No.2828378

Have you guys ever considered writing articles for HG101 yourselves? You'd get paid for it anyways.

>> No.2828398

>>2828378
I've recently considering starting my own website.

Mostly because I'm currently not doing anything and I hate a lot of content thats currently out there (lots of guys have valid complaints, more about the youtuber then the games, bullshit like Game Theory being pushed).

I like minimalistic content. Doing a review over straight gameplay is what I want to see, so the easiest way to get the content I want to see is to make it myself and make a website where I can surround myself with like minded individuals.

Theres also the issue of shit like SJW plaguing literally everything (like this play-asia DOA non-issue becoming a huge issue from 1 tweet) and I get fucking sick of it.

My website would be the last bastion of gaming content.

No bullshit.
No selling out.
No SJW pandering.

Just objective looks at games, with some (obviously) subjective opinions.

I actually liked the idea where multiple people could review the same game, so if there was a certain reviewer you really jived with you could take his opinion over someone else'. Its one of the reasons I stopped going to a lot of websites, its usually one guys opinion about one game, when it would be nice to see multiple reviews for the same game so you can get some different viewpoints.

>> No.2828405

>>2821016
What's not to like about a trolling mod?

>> No.2828406

>>2828398
>objective looks
>objective
Explain how that is supposed to be possible before I laugh in your face.

>> No.2828419

>>2828406
Oh I totally understand that reviews are almost totally subjective by their very nature, which is why, like I said, that it would be nice to have multiple people reviewing the same game.

But you know, laying down the facts about the game. It seems like a lot of that gets pushed to the way-side a lot and just ignored, where very little goes into how the game works and more in depth looks into the mechanics.

>> No.2828428

>>2828419
>that it would be nice to have multiple people reviewing the same game.
I remember reading an old german pc game magazine (PC Player) which did that: One person would write the main review, which was mostly descriptive, and then that person and at least a second one would write a shorter text about what they tought of the game.

>> No.2828459

>>2828419
Also to add, I think being transparent about things like

>playtime to clear main story
>time spent on optional content
>time spent on multiplayer (if available)
>total time played
>difficulty
>First playthrough?

Then a bunch of game specific things, like if you played I dunno Diablo 2 you could say what kind of gear you were using throughout and what your build was. I feel like thats important, because if you play a game like.. I dunno, Demon's Souls or Dark souls and you're going in the review "Difficulty greatly exagerated, its easy blah blah blah" and then at the bottom I see:

>6 hours
>Pure magic build
>Repeat playthrough

Or if someone is playing something like Secret of Mana and the guys lauding it as the greatest experience ever and I see:

>Played with 2 friends for the whole game
>Grinded magic to level 8
>Repeat playthrough

Then I can take those into account in my decision whether or not to play the game or if the review was fair or not on my own terms.

I guess what I want is transparency, so objectivity was the wrong word. I want to know more of the statistics behind someones playthrough more then just "It was fun and I liked these big setpieces A B and C, multiplayer is shit, etc"

>> No.2828462

>>2828459
Scathing Accuracy has a reviewing system like that.
http://scathingaccuracy.com/

>> No.2828480

>>2828462
>Dat lack of content
>Guys playing games for 180 hours then going "Its shit"

I dont think I like this website.

>> No.2828587

>>2828398
I'll join your website if there's pay.

>> No.2828590

>>2828587
How much would you want anyways?

I never know about these kinds of things.

>> No.2828592

>>2828590
is 3 cents a word good? That's HG101's rate

>> No.2828602

>>2828398
Through my experience of these websites, "bullshit" and "selling out" are pretty inevitable.

I also think there should be a bit of a difference from HG101 besides views on w.e. Maybe do something kinda like strategywiki and have various tips for these kinds of things.

I was thinking of doing something like that for fighting games that SRK won't cover (read: most of them), but idk shit about webdev.

>> No.2828610

>>2828602
Yeah if you wanted it to be more then just a hobby or side thing you're going to have to accept filthy money. I think you can handle sponsorships and advertising in less intrusive ways.

I personally like the way Linus' Tech tips does it where its just a really quick blurb about whatever in the video then its gone. I don't feel like having intrusive banner ads is really enjoyable and most people ad block anyways I feel.

>>2828592
Its possible thats fair. I don't have anything yet but I'll probably start in December. Maybe if I get it off the ground I'll shill it here and people can contact me or whatever.

I have my doubts it'll get off the ground, but who knows maybe it goes somewhere.

>> No.2828627

Why does Derboo hate the Devil May Cry games? I've seen him say it's because of their inflluence over japanese action games, but as far as I know he never elaborated on why.

>> No.2828654

>>2828627
He's no good at them, basically.

>> No.2828661

>>2828654
lol. For a moment I was kinda nervous since I thought my opinions would be edited by him in articles I write or something, but Kurt says that something like that won't happen.

>> No.2828671

>>2828661
As far as I've seen you should be ok, so long as you're not like, writing about the Rance Series in a positive light or something along those lines.

>> No.2828762

>>2828610
Speaking from experience, trying and failing is better than not trying and whining about it.

>> No.2828937

>>2806602
>2hu
>A good majority of the PC-98's library
There's only 5 official 2hu games on the PC-98 (not counting homebrews, but even then, I doubt there's a whole lot, and even then, they were probably post-Touhou 6, since even in Japan Touhou was really obscure until the series moved on to Windows). The only reason why one would think that is probably because it's the only doujin game series that was on the PC-98 that more than 5 people even know about... well, it's probably one of the few doujin game series in general that more than 5 people know about.

>> No.2829742

>>2823630
He's pretty tistic (Full sized small horse plushie, says "Sufficed to say" a lot), but he is pretty informative as fuck

>> No.2831697

>>2828762
What would you guys want to see on the site? Since I think I will go through with it.

I think that I'm going to have sections for collecting and curating (like cleaning, maintenance, tips/tricks for finding deals, etc), Board scans is seeming to be more and more needed these days, I know mvs-scans has most if not all of the MVS games (due to the bootleg scene) but I'm not sure if theres something equivalent for every other system.

Probably a lot of "recommended" games lists because I see that shit here constantly asking for recommendations and I guess it could be broken down a lot, into like "Sega Genesis" or "Shoot em ups", recommended "Squaresoft" things like that.

Reviews obviously. Probably with sections you can collapse (at least for mine, people could probably do whatever they want) so you don't accidentally read spoilers (Story parts would be minimized by default)

I guess, other "series" of articles, like I have a few ideas I have for myself (working through the backlog: reviews of games I beat as I work through my collection, and best in series: comparing games in a series and declaring a definitive one)

I want to have profiles for the contributors too, and one of my ideas is that they rank genres based on their preference (like I would give myself something like 3rd person action 5*, JRPG 3*, platformer 2*, Point and Click adventure 1*, Beat em ups 3*, Run and Gun 5*) so people can get an idea what the authors are into and his personal biases and such. If a guy hates JRPG's and he gives a JRPG a good review then maybe someone who hates JRPG's may get more out of the review for instance.

Obviously make some kind of forum probably with discussion based on genre, or based on platform, a marketplace, maybe some tournaments or leaderboards.

>> No.2831707
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I bought Hardcore Gaming 101's fat book on adventure titles thinking I was going to get some insightful history on the making of these games.

Instead I got some asshole's opinions that I didn't ask for and a bunch of interviews with the same questions the subjects are always asked.

Do you think an adventure game fan want to read someone shit on every adventure game that isn't LucasArts and read stories from Al Lowe that are already on his website? Who was this for?

I recommend Matt Chat.

>> No.2831787

>>2828671
I wonder what he expects out of this comment then. 7 paragraphs on why Rape is Bad? (TM)

https://twitter.com/HG_101/status/669190228414885888

>> No.2831831

>>2831697
If you guys decide to go through with this, if you need any video work, I can do that.

>> No.2831847

>>2805110
>Best retro review websites you know of?
I believe its 4chan of all places.

>> No.2832102

>>2831787
God, why is Kurt such a kek.

>> No.2832135

>>2831847
>"GOTYAY"
>"Its shit"

Yeah... so much diversity and actual facts here.

>> No.2832209

>>2831787
I'd offered to write about the games but it ended in an argument with Derboo.

That, and I've got two articles that I've been dicking around with forever so I should finish those before biting off more than I can chew.

>> No.2832220

>>2832209
How the fuck did derboo ended up scoring an interview with the writer of the NES Ninja Gaiden games?

>> No.2832291

>>2832220
Bad taste in action games and causes aside he's a pretty knowledgeable guy. He's real good with research imo. IIRC he just sent an email and the dude was happy that anyone cared enough to contact him.

>> No.2832303

>>2831707
It's ok as an encyclopedia.

>> No.2832434

>>2832291
Wasn't he also the same writer who did Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VII, or was he just an assistant writer in those games?

>> No.2832457

>>2832434
I was pretty sure it was someone else, he might have just done editing.

I figure while we're all talking I'd ask - I've been planning on revising the Sweet Home article because aside from being written by zzz, it sounds like zzz hopelessly trying to channel Icycalm while just kind of regurgitating shit from Wikipedia (i.e., it doesn't say shit). Would you guys rather read something just about the game itself, or would you have any interest in some context on the movie and of the shit surrounding it?

>> No.2832686

So since this has become a HG101 discussion... anyone bother with Game Club 199x podcasts and live casts?

>> No.2832708

>>2832686
Enjoy it while you can, episode 50's the last one.

We're gonna (hopefully) do something different after that, but that's yet to be determined.

>> No.2832962

>>2832457
>I figure while we're all talking I'd ask - I've been planning on revising the Sweet Home article because aside from being written by zzz, it sounds like zzz hopelessly trying to channel Icycalm while just kind of regurgitating shit from Wikipedia (i.e., it doesn't say shit).
Was Triple Z even aware of Icycalm? I know Icycalm advocated the value of expertise and a lot of people in the FGC bitched about one of zzz's articles (don't remember which one at the moment).

>Would you guys rather read something just about the game itself, or would you have any interest in some context on the movie and of the shit surrounding it?
I personally feel you can't write around a video game based on a film, TV series or whatever without referencing the source material in some form or another (unless it's something like IREM's Spartan X, which only borrowed the names of Jackie Chan's and Lola Forner's characters from the movie and little else).

I once tried to write an overview of Shoei System's shitty Hokuto no Ken games that tried to be objective, while remaining spoiler-free, but it's hard to do that without spoiling the original manga and anime, so I never got around to submitting it.

>> No.2832995

>>2805110
I really like HG101 just for the game version breakdowns they do for series. It's my go to source for "what system do I play it on" tbqh

>> No.2833015

>>2805110
HG101 is pretty great and they've done more for retro games than you ever will.

>> No.2833572

>>2832962
Probably not. The Sweet Home article is pretty out of character for zzz though, I just figured that maybe he did some peyote and Icycalm's race memories of his Bullshit Cult high priests from ancient Thule overtook zzz because they were bored.

I'm in agreement, when I read about something I'm more interested in either the context behind the series, stories about the development, or other trivia things like that than about the game's mechanics and shit - you can find out how a game plays by playing the game or watching Youtube, the other things not so much.

As for the podcast, I'm happy I've gotten to talk to the five listeners, it was a good way to get to know people. It's just a nightmare to coordinate when everyone's got a day job (and/or family), everyone lives in different parts of the world, etc. The overall disinterest in it and not getting paid for it doesn't help either.

>> No.2833592
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The problem with sites like HG101 or Youtubers is that people often take them as gospel instead of just as something to get game recs from; ESPECIALLY when something obscure is being covered and there are no alternate sources to copy+paste opinions from.

Their opinions are really quite irrelevant to me. They are not game analysts, their main purpose is to summarize something and show off pictures.

For example, Kurt Kalata's Ys retrospective says the first game's bosses are all terrible because "they're literally untouchable and when you reach the level where you can damage them they're too easy". I guess you could say the guy is just really good at games and has really high standards, but... given my experience with people's comments on JRPGs, I think he just over-leveled like an idiot because he sucked and then blamed the game for being "poorly balanced". I'm only around halfway through and I can already tell this is bullshit; the bat-demon boss, for example, is genuinely difficult and requires figuring out a pretty elaborate pattern (especially for game from 1987). The worm boss before that was also not easy if you fought him at a low level.

To be fair, I played the PC Engine version and not the original PC-88/98 version... but he said absolutely nothing about the bosses being changed in the ports, and some videos I watched of a Japanese guy playing it still make the bosses look fairly challenging, so my point stands.
>>2832303
Why would you add your shitty fucking opinions to an >>encyclopedia<<

"Anime experts" do the same shit

>> No.2833596

>>2833592
Basically what I'm saying is that the site is useful if you want old-school game recs but you shouldn't treat them as "knowledgeable game critics". Don't assume something you've never heard of is shit just because they said it's shit and they are 'authorities'.
>>2806502
>It's his constant whining about Hideki Kamiya and PlatinumGames that triggers me.
Elaborate, I've never come across this.
>I don't mind his bitching about Valis Cross that much though (they literally did whored out the franchise).
It wouldn't have been awkward if he just said "it's a shitty porn game" instead of condescending pandering bullshit.

A lot of them are basically sheep and insert utterly thoughtless feminist-pandering for the sake of it.

>> No.2833603

>>2825034
>>2820892
CGR is worse than HG101, at least some people on HG101 can comment on games decently.

Still useful, but only for recs. The guy has good taste and covers interesting shit but he's a fucking awful reviewer, like just complete and utter garbage. And he also has an awkward speech impediment.

>> No.2833607

>>2833015
Not OP, but HG101 definitely contributed a lot to the retro gaming scene with their IGN-tier level of research (just regurgitate the first thing they read in Wikipedia or whatever user-submitted site without fact-checking it first), some of the writer's obvious casualness when it comes to any action game with some degree of difficulty (see their Renegade and Darius reviews) and the lack of insights about certain franchises other than stating obvious truisms (yeah, we know the first Fire Emblem is more primitive than the rest, it's the first game in the damn series). Kurt's pandering of the recent SocJus bandwagon and pointing out sexism in old games (not just in the obvious sleazy ecchi games, but even in something as innocuous as fucking Girl's Garden) doesn't really do them any favors.

>> No.2833608

>>2833596
I've jerked off to some fucking weird shit and when he goes and calls the Valis X stuff "gross" it just makes me laugh, because its relatively tame.

Makes me think he's some fucking religious shut in who thinks even looking at his wanger is going to send him to hell.

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>>2833607

I mean theres some pretty obviously questionable shit in older games. But at this point its in the past, so who cares.

I'm more offended by shit like Roach from Heavenly Sword being a big fucking retard then I am that a lot of japanese female protaganists wearing high leg leotards. In fact, I'm 100% for that. I like that old anime style.

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>>2833608
Derboo & Kalata are just thoughtless morons when it comes to the SJW-pandering stuff. And don't get me wrong, I'm not the kind of person to dismiss someone's points because I disagree with them politically; I've read articles by radical feminists that I've partly agreed with. But I mean, shit like this...

>At least once, the feminist call for turning around the tired old "damsel in distress" trope in games has apparently been heard long before games even had gotten the attention of feminist discussion. Once again it was Sega who pioneered in more diversive roles for women in video games: At the beginning of the game, the eponymous princess is seen being carried away by an evil usurper's henchmen, but she easily escapes, turns into a ninja and sets out to retake her kingdom all on her own. Might get negative feminist points for the somewhat skimpy and not very ninja-like outfit, though.

...is just pointless, thoughtless nonsense. Spewing a few buzzwords to go through the motions and show that you are "on the right side of history".

>> No.2833623

>>2833608
But it is gross. Preggo chicks are fucking nasty.

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>>2833607
>(not just in the obvious sleazy ecchi games
That's even worse, though. Why would you complain about softcore porn objectifying the characters?

I'm honestly not at all against analyzing female portrayals in games; Japan is a pretty sexist country and this can sometimes be reflected in the stories they tell. The problem is that they're just bandwagoners spouting buzzwords they heard from Feminist Frequency. They're not thoughtfully analyzing gender roles from their well-informed perspective, they just want to say "YEAH WE'RE PC TOO BRO" and be done with it. Bandwagoners.

Also hahahahaha holy shit Kurt Kalata looks hilarious

>> No.2833626

>>2833623
I'm pretty sure "pregnant women are disgusting" is not a stance a born-again male feminist would take

>> No.2833629

>>2833623
Ur mom sure was when she was pregnant with you.

>> No.2833638

>>2833624
Yeah. I looked up how Kurt looked IRL and I don't really like judging other people's appearances, but it's no wonder he jumped into SocJus movement. He looks like the kind of weird kid who got ostracized at school for his dorkiness and now wants to prove to feminists how he's not a shallow sexist pig like the other guys. Same shit with Jim Sterling and MovieBlob (neither of them look like they were heartthrobs back in school).

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>>2833607
>(see their Renegade and Darius reviews)
I genuinely enjoy the first Kunio-kun game and I fucking hate that sources like Seanbaby's Nintendo page and HG101 kept up all the "WORST GAME EVER" meme opinion alive so that no future generation will be able to try out a lot of games on their own terms.

The only huge "issue" with the game is that it doesn't play like later beat-em-ups... but really, when taken as its own thing there are no crippling flaws with it. It's an extremely hard coin-muncher that tries its best keep you from finishing the game (enemies with knives that kill you in one hit on the final stage! the final boss shoots at you with a one-hit-kill gun while knife guys circle around you!), but it's still not nearly as hard as, say, doing a 1CC run of a shmup.

The controls are responsive and make sense (once again unless you assume every beat-em-up has to have the same basic controls) and the bosses can require pretty unique strategies. And even though it's cheap, the idea of having the final boss in a hand-to-hand-combat game be a guy with a gun is actually really clever and cool.

>> No.2833641

Whatever happened to Flying Omelette?

>> No.2833653

>>2833629
I'm sure you'd know; it's a pleasant surprise to finally be reunited with my afterbirth on /vr/.

>>2833626
Yeah, I don't think that's Derboo's rationale for why it's gross, just mine. I'm not into ant pregnancy either, which is a major plot point.

>> No.2833660

>>2833639
>>2833607
Okay, I'll be fair; he doesn't actually say it's a worst game ever contender, but he still kinda just rolls with the "this is a bad game" stock-opinion, the only valid criticism being "the framerate is pretty low".

He then calls the controls "sluggish" (one of those meaningless vague descriptors that reviewers love; much like "polished", "visceral" and "compelling") without actually elaborating what makes them "sluggish".

>> No.2833680

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/lovedelic/lovedelic.htm These games sound super interesting but god damn is reading this guy's writing a chore.

>> No.2833684

>>2833592
I finished the PC-Engine version of Ys 1 and touched a couple of others but I think the statement is "mathematically correct" - Ys 1's issue is that Attack Damage uses an additive/subtractive formula rather than a multiplicative one - just going up a single level (in a game with like 10 levels natch) might send your damage from like 1 to 3 - basically tripling your damage even though the raw numbers look small.

If I'm not wrong, the last boss is the biggest offender because he's literally impossible to win below certain levels (the floor is slowly falling apart and you can't kill him fast enough if your damage is below a certain amount), highly impractical at one level and then doable the next.

>> No.2833689

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/kusoge/kusoge-typingofthedead.htm
>making a genuinely fun educational game is as bad thing
>being a likely-pasty and white american faggot unironically saying "kusoge", often to describe western games

>> No.2833701

>>2833684
It's an old game. the design's not flawless. But... I never denied this at all. None of what you said has ANYTHING to do with my criticism of Kurt's review; you didn't prove that what he said is "mathematically correct" at all.

Yes, if you over-level the bosses will become pathetically easy... but you CAN take them out at lower levels. You don't have to grind, at least not much. You can damage enemies just fine if you're their level, but they won't be too easy either; you still have to dodge attacks, and (once again, unless you grind for far too long which I think Kurt did) you'll die quick if you fuck up.

Instead, Kurt says that the bosses are either impossible or pathetically easy. And as I said, he's either insanely good at the game or just grinded too fucking much; I suspect it's the latter. And if it's the former then I'm pretty sure the average JRPG player is not going to find the fucker in the screenshot I posted pathetically easy if they fight him as soon as they can damage him.

>> No.2833702

>>2833689
Sam Derboo, the writer of that particular piece, is German, but Kurt (whom you can see here>>2833624) is the one who coined the name for that column. A lot of the games they cover there don't even classify "kusoge", which would imply they're bad. Something like Typing of the Dead would normally be considered a "bakage" (a ridiculous game) for its absurd concept. They're misappropriating a term they don't even understand correctly.

>> No.2833705

>>2833684
>>2833701
Also
>highly impractical at one level and then doable the next.
This, once again, doesn't mean "the bosses are either literally unbeatable or pathetically easy" which is what he said.

It really reads like he got pissed and went out and grinded, assuming "this is a JRPG so you gotta grind" (which is retarded on its own) and then blamed his cheapness on the game itself.

>> No.2833713

>>2833705
>>2833684
Oh he also said that the sequel is "different" because victory against bosses is not entirely defined by stats and player skill matters. But... the exact same thing applies to the first game.

I'm glad the article exists since it's an index of the series that offers some basic info on every game, but his review of 1 was just bad and based around his specific, cheap, lazy playthrough of it.

>> No.2833719

>>2833702
>Sam Derboo
What kind of German name is that?

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>>2833614
>At least once, the feminist call for turning around the tired old "damsel in distress" trope in games has apparently been heard long before games even had gotten the attention of feminist discussion. Once again it was Sega who pioneered in more diversive roles for women in video games: At the beginning of the game, the eponymous princess is seen being carried away by an evil usurper's henchmen, but she easily escapes, turns into a ninja and sets out to retake her kingdom all on her own. Might get negative feminist points for the somewhat skimpy and not very ninja-like outfit, though.
Stupid statements in the 80s game heroines review like that and the Girl's Garden review (where they completely misconstrue the plot of the game) made me wonder if the whole thing was written to be bad satire, even though Derboo and Kulata's attitudes lately seem to be proving otherwise like when Kurt bitched about not playing Bayonetta 2 in front of his parents (why would anyone play video games around their parents anyway?).

At any rate, I doubt the people who made Ninja Princess intended it to be some grand counter-culture response to the cliche of damsels in distress in old video games. Japanese gamers just like playing as cute girls and have no juvenile hangups over playing a girly game.

>> No.2833726

>>2833721
>At any rate, I doubt the people who made Ninja Princess intended it to be some grand counter-culture response to the cliche of damsels in distress in old video games.
That's part of why it's so dumb. He just wanted to write the words "damsel in distress trope" down in his video game article to feel like a "good ally".

>> No.2833739

>>2833702
I was actually just looking at the Kusoge of the Week series and a lot of it is mostly just extreme gripes instead of actually super bad and shitty games.

Honestly, Hardcore Gaming 101 is missing a -lot- of content. Granted a lot of it is obscure or semi-obscure (at least over here) like for the most part stuff on PC-Engine or MSX computers, but it'd be nice for some articles on more mainstream stuff, as well as more modern stuff.

Stuff like Ace Combat, or Armored Core would make for good content. Armored Core is an especially robust series.

I get that its basically people writing articles on whatever they currently are interested in, but the articles have such massive discrepancies in levels of detail that sometimes it feels like classic game room type reviews.

>> No.2833763

>>2833719
A pen name, maybe. I don't believe it's his real name.

>> No.2833769

>>2833721
I play video games with my parents. Hell, we had an episode of the podcast about that ;p.

>> No.2833771

>>2833769
8===D (^8

>> No.2833773

>>2833769
Which episode was that? At any rate, I wonder if Kurt bitches about being uncomfortable watching James Bond movies around his parents too because of all the half-nekked ladies that show up in those movies.

>> No.2833783

>>2833771
You forgot to make the dick black, I'm a size queen.

>>2833773
Mother's Day/Father's Day special.

>> No.2833796

>>2832135
Plenty of people on 4chan are able to criticize things they like.

>> No.2833925

>>2833721
Who are 6, 7, 10 and 13? Also why do I get the feeling that not knowing those characters reveals a lack of fighting game knowledge?

>> No.2833932

>>2833925
7 looks like Valis.

>> No.2833945

>>2833925
>>2833932
They're all arcade game characters. 6 and 7 are Ryoko and Janne from World Heroes, 10 is Nakoruru from Samurai Shodown and 13 is Yuri Sakazaki from Art of Fighting 2.

>> No.2833947

>>2833945
All slutty trash from equally trash games. The only thing legacy SNK games still have going for them are tits and ass.

>> No.2833949

>>2833796
Speaking for myself, I can recognize the merits of games I dislike or feel indifferent about.

>> No.2833952

>>2833945
>World Heroes
>Samurai Shodown
>Art of Fighting 2.

I fucking knew it. This is what I get for not playing anything beyond street fighter.

>> No.2833954

>>2833947
Capcom fanboy detected

>> No.2834096

>ctlr+f
>old man murray
>0 results

gayest board on the block

http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/77.html

>> No.2834108

>>2831707
I'm fine with what I've seen so far from The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers 'cause I'm ok with just a simple and chatty approach to random reviews, but it can get on my nerves at times

>got the localizator from snatcher, castlevania sotn, mgs, suikoden II, dragon quest IV, silent hill 2/3/4 and phoenix wright T&T
>I'm such a suikoden II fan! let's talk about it!
>five pages talking about suikoden II localization trivias

>> No.2834119
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>>2834108
The ZUN interview had a few pretty silly lines

>> No.2834545

>>2834096
>Old Man Murray
That site would still mean something if it wasn't deader than Icycalm.

>> No.2834557

>>2834545
Speaking of which, what do you think hell is like for Icycalm? Dealing with normies?

>> No.2834558

>>2834545
>deader than Icycalm.
So [spoler]playing pretend[/spoiler] then?

>> No.2834560

>>2834119
this is the osman bullshit all over again
http://blog.hardcoregaming101.net/2014/08/mitchell-corporation-arcade-games.html

>> No.2835398

>tfw want to make reviews
>don't want to do the standard video reviews everyone does
>articles are probably better suited to me

Would you watch articles with embedded video of straight gameplay to reinforce my points?

I was thinking of going fairly in depth and talking about everything from Story, to Bosses, to Mechanics and usually having like a link to a boss fight or something for every boss, and other video for mechanics.

I get a feeling it'll make people think I'm trying to get youtube ad revenue for having a shitload of like 60 second to 1 minute videos per article but I feel like thats the best way to reinforce points.

I can't stand guys who just talk over gameplay, or show gameplay that isn't directly related to what they're currently talking about

>> No.2835434

>>2834560
Thankfully I didn't blow too much money on it since it was part of a Book bundle

>> No.2835457

>>2833660
>one of those meaningless vague descriptors that reviewers love

The one I hate the most when it comes to those is "aged".

>> No.2835463

>>2835457
While I agree that "aged" gets thrown around and is the subject of too many arguments on /vr/ I can respect what they're trying to say.

Old vs. New games simply have different standards. Old had a lot more experimentation and were breaking new ground. As such a lot of them aren't without faults, and are archaic by today's standards.

I don't think comparing older games to modern games is totally fair, but its definitely fair to compare it to other stuff of the same generation, but its also worth noting mechanics or systems that are archaic by today's standards, because even back then a lot of stuff was simply arbitrary.

>> No.2835529

>>2805110
It's 2015 and the only decent reviewer/critic that also makes something slightly entertaining by making it in video format but also doesn't sound too full of himself or tries too hard to create an online personality or make awful jokes is matthewmatis - which I believe has reviewed only one retro game and that's super mario 64.

I wish there were at least a few others like him, at least to be able to make a comparision.

>> No.2835538

>>2835529
There is a guy who posts sometimes on the /v/ drawthreads that is quite good but has a shitty mic. But I haven't seen him posting on the threads lately so I don't even know if he's still doing reviews or not.

>> No.2835552

>>2834558
Well in Old Man Murray's case, they've been playing pretend for over 13 years. Does anyone have a screencap of Icy's Phantamasgoria review where he takes a dig at Murray?

>> No.2835579

>>2835463
The problem with throwing around the word "aged" (like HG101 does in most of their retrospectives) is that it doesn't reveal much about a game in the context of its release. Saying that the original Fire Emblem on the Famicom is archaic compared to the later games on the Super Famicom and Game Boy Advance doesn't reveal much other than the formula was further developed in later games. What the writer has to do is elaborate on how Fire Emblem stood out from other so-called war simulation games and RPGs (such as Famicom Wars and Dragon Quest) at the time? Did such a game that combined elements from both genres exist before (it did coin the term "simulation RPG" in Japan after all)? That requires a certain level of expertise that most HG101 writers seem to be lacking.

>> No.2835648

>writing a review of MGS5: The Phantom Pain
>its already 10 pages and I haven't even begun to discuss story, characters, or a lot of the mechanics

No wonder people just do shitty short reviews.

>> No.2835658

>>2835648
"I didn't have time to write a short review, so I wrote a long one instead"

>> No.2835675

>>2835658
wut.

>> No.2835703

>>2835675
It's a quote[*]: "I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one." Meaning, it takes time to remove the fluff from a long text until only the essentials remain, so it's easier to write a long text than a short one. As exemplified by the huge amount of overly verbose blog posts on the Internet.

[*] By who? http://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/04/28/shorter-letter/

>> No.2835712

>>2835398
Iktf anon I'm writing instead reviews instead of videos (wont post because self-shilling is stupid) but its mostly a hobby thing. It just sucks because most people are going to parrot what e-celebs say and not really put forth alot of effort into making a generally decent review.

>> No.2835801

>>2835703
I understand, but a lot of games in terms of content have a lot to say about them and if you're going into a lot of detail then its going to naturally be very robust.

Obviously theres a balance, I mean you could sum up Megaman with "You run through 8 stages, fight bosses and get boss weapons, to kill the bosses, then you do some more levels then its over", and you could also go the other way where you're analyzing every little bit of every level and the usefulness of every weapon.

I get what you're saying and some stuff will probably get cut but I'm trying to be as in depth as possible without having a lot of fluff. I think you're giving your average reviewer a bit too much credit.

>> No.2835842

>>2833614
>>At least once, the feminist call for turning around the tired old "damsel in distress" trope in games has apparently been heard long before games even had gotten the attention of feminist discussion. Once again it was Sega who pioneered in more diversive roles for women in video games: At the beginning of the game, the eponymous princess is seen being carried away by an evil usurper's henchmen, but she easily escapes, turns into a ninja and sets out to retake her kingdom all on her own. Might get negative feminist points for the somewhat skimpy and not very ninja-like outfit, though.

Uuuuuuuugh so much pointless bullshit. Hate it when they do this.

>Sega offered a more diverse role for women by having the epoymous princess take back her kingdom as a ninja

Off the top of my head, has the same meaning without so much meandering bullshit.

>> No.2835851

>>2835842
your version doesn't fellate Sega with
>Once again it was Sega who pioneered
>Once again it was Sega who pioneered
>Once again it was Sega who pioneered

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>>2835842
It's not the first time Kurt and Derboo made up bullshit about a game's story.
>Years before making his name as the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog Yuji Naka was tasked with creating a game for Sega's very first home console, the primitive SG-1000. As the title lets through, the protagonist is a cute little girl, tending to the flowers in her garden. In retrospect, it still wasn't utterly progressive: The purpose of the heroine's effort is to win - or rather keep - the heart of her boyfriend, who slowly proceeds to cheat on her with another woman, lest he is stopped by a full bouquet of beautiful flowers - that he then gives to her as a present. No, it doesn't make much sense, but video games weren't really expected to in 1984.
The boy isn't Papri's boyfriend, she's a next door neighbor she has a crush on. The other girl is her romantic rival.

Also, their view on Typhoon Gal.
>Typhoon Gal is the first fighting game with a female playable character. It still won't make feminists happy, though: The heroine Yuki is clad in a "girlish" pink gi, and starts crying when she is defeated. And even though her general design is not sexualized, she is seen hiding behind a tree to change into her fighting gear, throwing her clothes to the wayside. The completely grapple-based fighting system is at least as unusual as the game's main character.
>It still won't make feminists happy, though.
Oh my God. Who the hell care!?

>> No.2835979

>>2835851
Note the overall lack of coverage for games by the true innovator and god emperor of the 1980s arcade scene, Namco.

>> No.2835996

>>2835979
>Hardcore Gaming 101
>Most of the stuff isn't even "hardcore" in terms of difficulty
Bravo.

>> No.2836043

>>2835996
difficulty is a misogynistic concept anyway

>> No.2836347

>>2835860
The word "progressive" is total horseshit.

>>2835842
I like how people assume ninjas were supposed to look like the ones in Godfrey Ho movies.

>> No.2836546

>>2836347
I believe he also used the term "toxic masculinity" at one point in the forum too.

>> No.2836754

>>2836546
Wasn't that in reference to 4chan, too?

>> No.2836826

>>2823391
>Show me a Spanish-language website from those years or earlier with better reviews and editorials
Gamerah.
I miss Gamerah.

>> No.2837043

>>2835648
There's no story in MGSV anyway so that won't take long to write about.

>> No.2837058

>>2835860
Why would someone be looking at 80s Japanese video games for progressive themes in the first place? The fuck is this guy writing this stuff for?

>> No.2837082

>>2837058
Why not?

>> No.2837713

>>2837082
If how "progressive" a game (or comic, or whatever) is defines whether or not you play it, you probably need to re-evaluate your priorities in life.

>> No.2837759

>>2837713
My question was: Why wouldn't someone look for progressive themes in 80s Japanese video games?

>> No.2837765

>>2837759
because that's fucking stupid, I like to think we didn't have tumblr drama back in 80s japan

>> No.2837769

>>2837765
Thats the worst bit of Hardcore Gaming 101, is it doesn't seem to know its audience.

If I want to know about games, I sure as shit don't give a fuck if Popful Mail is a sexist representation of females by the patriarchy.

I wanna know if its fucking fun and good.

>> No.2837861

>>2835860
>It still won't make feminists happy, though.
Of course it won't, NOTHING makes modern feminists happy. Taking their standpoint into account this seriously is just stupid. I mean, it would be somewhat funny if it was satire but other things point to the opposite.

>> No.2837865

bump

>> No.2837873

>>2837759
I don't personally because it's bad enough being reminded how far we've fallen in society in every fucking thing I see on the internet; I don't need that kind of shit in my video games too.

>>2837769
I dunno, if the forums are any indication there seems to be a lot of shitheads that would be into that kind of garbage.

>> No.2837904

>>2837759
Because it's retarded to expect something at least 26 years old to hold up to the same social standards we have today.

>> No.2839190

>>2837769
I dunno, I think games without sexist repesentations of females are less fun.

>> No.2839665

I really don't think Youtube videos are inherently bad. Yes, there's usually too much focus on "ME ME ME LOOKATMEEEEEEEEEEEEEE", and I can't think of any channels that aren't shit or don't force a "personality" specifically dedicated to the subject of old games, but I think a good channel could exist.

Why bother? Because I think videos are a better medium for reviewing or analyzing games, inherently. Video games have motion and sound, and you can't conveniently show that off through text alone.
>>2837873
It sounds like they just have really heavy moderation and shut down any harmful opinions instantly. It's how Neogaf managed to maintain its atmosphere, at least. Those who speak up are banned; so most people just shut up about the subject, leaving only those who agree.

>> No.2839668

BTW, HG101's new book is out today. I'm going to get it because some friends wrote for it, but Top (number) lists are kind of fucked up.

>> No.2839689

>>2839668
at least you admit you're shilling for your friends

>> No.2839694

>>2837873
>it's bad enough being reminded how far we've fallen in society in every fucking thing I see on the internet

This is the funniest thing I've read all day, thanks anon.

>>2839665
With emulation being so easy these days, I don't understand people who watch reviews at all. Personally I prefer trying them out myself to listening to some reviewer give me his opinion I may not agree with anyways.

>> No.2839712

>>2839689
Actually I was just posting because I was hoping that you guys would bitch about it, this has been a fun thread and I want to keep that kind of discourse going.

>>2839694
plz elaborate

>> No.2839719

>>2839712
>plz elaborate

On which statement?

>> No.2839727

>>2839694
This could apply to literally everything though. "Just pirate it and see what you think".

I watch reviews, but not really to decide whether to bother with something or not.

Personally I think it's good to have videos that introduce people to games they'd never hear of any other way. If getting people to try something underrated is your main goal then Youtube videos are absolutely the way to go.

>> No.2839734

>>2837873
>I dunno, if the forums are any indication there seems to be a lot of shitheads that would be into that kind of garbage.
Tell me about it. There were quite a few people in that place I couldn't stand with their "I'm more liberal and enlighten than anyone else" rhetoric.

>> No.2839743

>>2839734
I mean normally most forums will only ban people who are:

>breaking the rules
>flaming/shitposting

So you end up with a bunch of guys who get banned because some of their posts or criticisms were cheeky or a bashing a "senior" member. It happens a lot.

So you get a bunch of guys who don't want to get banned, and the easiest way to do that is if you have something negative to say, you keep it to yourself. Which results in the forums going to shit and being a circle-jerk. You -need- people willing to say something is bad, that X Y and Z are wrong with something. If everything's hunky dory all the time things get bland. You need a little bit of chaos, a little bit of resistance, of conflict to keep things interesting and engaging.

>> No.2839747

>>2839727
Well overall I think people put too much importance on reviews and not enough on experiencing something and making your own decision about it. It's different in the case of something like a movie though which is a current product.

But I may just be coming at this from a very different angle. My goal is never to get people to try something different or underrated, I don't care what other people do at all. My goal is finding interesting games I like, and for that in my opinion just trying them out is by far the best.

>> No.2839751

>>2839743
This is why I like 4chan. A lot of what gets said is idiotic or just plain wrong, but people are more free to say what they really think.

>> No.2839753

>>2839747
I'm no doubt in the minority but I don't use reviews to justify my purchase.

I usually know if I'm going to get a game based on what I've seen or know about the developers without a review. Some stuff that I'm on the fence about may get swayed.

I mostly use reviews as easily digestible content, or to affirm my feelings about a game. For instance I played Evil Within, and thought it wasn't very good, and I watch a bunch of reviews and it ranges from awful to decent and I can be assured that its not some amazing game and I'm missing something about it, its just not very good.

Sometimes I watch it for the shit slinging that happens. Star Wars Battlefront reviews have been pretty hilarious for the most part.

But like I said, its just content to consume. Rarely does it have any effect on my purchase decisions.

>> No.2839762

>>2839719
Oh I just meant about what you found funny about it.

>> No.2839764

>>2839751

Don't fool yourself; the Mods and Jannies of this site are bigger faggots than most forum staff in many ways, and your current Japanese overlord stands accused of some pretty scummy shit from his time at 2channel.

>> No.2839795

>>2839762
Any time someone starts going on about how much contemporary society has crumbled since their halcyon days of youth I find it funny.

>> No.2839798

>>2839764
All I mean is that when everyone posts as anonymous voices in a crowd they act differently from when they have an established name that links back to everything they've said.

>> No.2839915

>>2806639
Not him, but consider that Miyamoto also said there's a cohesive Zelda timeline. Anyone can look at the official timeline and tell that it's BS duct taped together.

Sometimes, designers forget, or change their mind from the original idea they published with. No shame or illegitimacy to disagreeing with the designer on interpretation.

>> No.2839956

>>2839795
Get off my lawn, you whippersnappers! When I was young we had to review games ourselves. Outside in the snow, during a blizzard, writing on clay tablets. And we liked it!

>> No.2839968

>>2839795
That's fine. I've got no illusions that things have always been bad in one way or another, but as an old man I was just meaning to express the time-honored traditional view of old men that kids today are full of shit.

>> No.2839972

>>2839968
>as an old man
age spots or gtfo

>> No.2839976

>>2839972
I have grey pubes is that enough?

>> No.2839978

>>2839976
I mean, they're not mine but I still have them.

>> No.2840083

>>2839915
The difference is that here the claim that Granstream is a sequel to Soul Blazer, which is easily disproven by just playing the game, wasn't claimed by the dev. It was claimed by some guy with no editorial control. Again just playing the game proves the claim wrong, just glancing at the credits proves it wrong, and the designer of the game itself goes in depth as to why it's wrong. It's not a passing, forgetful statement against the claim, it's a mountain of evidence.

For some reason Granstream tends to attract retarded rumors. It being a sequel to Soul Blazer is one, but there's also the claim made by some "journalist" that it was based on some manga called "Kros" (spoiler: there's no manga called "Kros").

>> No.2840101

>>2840083
>"Kros" (spoiler: there's no manga called "Kros").
Maybe they meant Cross. You know how Japanese Romanization works.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=3147

>> No.2840121

>>2839668
If you paid attention, you'd realize that it isn't a top (number) list as the games in the book aren't ordered in any "top" way.

>> No.2840150

>>2840121
Thanks for continuing the grand /vr/ tradition of being pedantic and nitpicking something stupid.

>> No.2840543

>>2839915
>Not him, but consider that Miyamoto also said there's a cohesive Zelda timeline. Anyone can look at the official timeline and tell that it's BS duct taped together.
There was some semblance of a continuity as far as the earliest games in the series (all the way up to the N64 games at least), even though the only reason I think A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time were made into sequels was because Miyamoto realized he fucked up by killing off Ganon at the end of Zelda 1. Wind Waker was then they stopped bothering with any semblance of a consistent timeline..

>> No.2840561

>>2840543
>sequels
*prequels

>> No.2840628

>>2835538
Name or any link?

>> No.2841719

http://lunaticobscurity.blogspot.com/

Mostly retro, pretty interesting and obscure titles.

>> No.2841769

>>2840628
Here. I also forgot about the accent.
https://youtu.be/rVg0y3SwMGM

>> No.2842974

>>2805110
socksmakepeoplesexy.net

They've got a lot of retro stuff and the guy that wrote about every main game in the FF series is hilarious:

http://www.socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=patff

>> No.2842980

>>2805404
>Honestly defending Wand of Gamelon as an underrated gem
I bet it was the Polish writer that did that, I remember him prattling on about that bullshit when he was a writer for Retro Gamer magazine here in the UK. Otherwise a decent writer, though.

>> No.2842989

>>2833624
nice tits

>> No.2842994

>>2842974
I find most of his articles to be pretty pretentious. Like in his Mother 1 review, he spends a good portion of it (13 paragraphs by my count) discussing the mechanics of the original Dragon Quest. Just cut that shit out! If I wanted to read a review of Dragon Quest, I would read a review of Dragon Quest.

>>2842980
That is indeed Sketcz, author of the Untold History of Japanese Games Develoeper and Agness Kaku's worst enemy.

>> No.2843009

>>2842994
You forgot "Wi-Fi Victim".

>> No.2843169

>>2842974
>socksmakepeoplesexy.net

Some of the articles are pretty fun, but they do occasionally feel like they were written by a 15 year old English Major with a fedora.

>> No.2843197

http://www.videogameden.com/ has short and to-the-point reviews of most noteworthy Famicom games. Great resource

now for something different, check http://retrogamedaisuki.blog.fc2.com/
A japanese guy writing reviews of popular and obscure games alike, in intelligible english (!). Some fun reads there, too bad he stopped writing new content last year

>> No.2843243

>>2811580

Classic Game Room?

You mean the guy who just sort of mumbles about random stuff barely related to the game in no particular order?

The same guy who shit all over Ridge Racer 6 because the "nitrous system was unrealistic"?

CGR sucks.

>> No.2843751

>>2843197
>http://www.videogameden.com/ has short and to-the-point reviews of most noteworthy Famicom games. Great resource
My main gripe with Video Game Den is that most of the information on his articles are nothing more than Wikipedia regurgitation with plot blurbs taken from the American version when they can (even if they completely contradict the Japanese version). You would think that someone who import games with ease would have easier access to Japanese information, but they don't even have simple plot blurbs for Japanese only games.

>> No.2843774

>>2843243
CGR is pretty much dead, there you go ya bum.

>> No.2843831

>>2828398
>I actually liked the idea where multiple people could review the same game, so if there was a certain reviewer you really jived with you could take his opinion over someone else'. Its one of the reasons I stopped going to a lot of websites, its usually one guys opinion about one game, when it would be nice to see multiple reviews for the same game so you can get some different viewpoints.

That fuckwad that reviewed Double Dragon Neon for IGN is a perfect example of why this is a good thing.

>> No.2843835

>>2828762
Truth.

>> No.2843838

>>2831697
You seem to have a lot of good ideas. Hell, I'd be happy just to find a place to meet up with retro gamers who aren't shitheads who want to play some co-op retro games via emulator.

>> No.2843841

>>2832686
I've listened to a few of them. The hosts are definitely not comfortable in the podcast medium, but you can tell they genuinely care about what they're talking about.

>> No.2843853

>>2843841
I didn't think I was THAT bad, but it's good to know for future reference. Can't speak for the others but I'm normally tired as fuck by the time we record, so I don't think that helps.

Anything you'd suggest, or other feedback? People rarely say shit at all, so it's much appreciated.

>> No.2843856

>>2843838
I think it would be good on both sides. Would help people like us to avoid the kind of bizarre assholes who get upset about people using emulators.

>> No.2843861

>>2843838
Thanks man. I've started working on it and some articles but you know how it is with the holidays.

Thats actually not a bad idea in terms of community building, I'll add it to my brainstorm, it may just end up being a forum section or something though.

>>2843831
I mean theres dozens of examples like that.

God Hand, Monster Hunter Freedom Unite to name a few off the top of my head that I thought were incredible games that got panned.

Sure, they're more niche titles, but they shouldn't get shitty reviews because they were niche and have a steep learning curve.

>> No.2843864

>>2843856
Yeah - that, and sometimes it's good to know who you're talking to so that you can talk to them again.

>>2843861
I like that idea (multiple viewpoints) as well. I'd tried to bring it up on HG101 but it got shot down fast.

>> No.2843883

>>2843864
I think how it would be would be something like

>Page dedicated to game with basic
information (platforms available, developer, release date, maybe a board scan or whatever if its a cart game, box art/disc image)

You know, just shit that you rip from Wikipedia or whatever.

Then from there you would have links to articles about the game, and I guess potentially guides or maybe playthroughs but I wouldn't really want the site to be about Lets Plays.

So with that idea you can have unlimited amounts of reviews, and maybe an average review score based on reviews.

So I wanted to have reviews and expanded information about games. I've been playing a bunch of Bloodborne because of the DLC and I thought it would be kinda neat to like have an article ranking all the weapons with some basic information like what build its good for, and that kind of thing.

The issue with doing something like that is games these days are getting their own dedicated wiki's very quickly, or a lot of the information is already out there... fuck that reminds me of this site: http://shrines.rpgclassics.com/snes/sd3/

I found that when I first got the SD3 rom.

>> No.2843884

>>2843853
If I had to say, it'd be that the delivery is a bit stiff. The people seem cool, but you kind of get the feeling they're holding back on their normal personalities, if you know what I mean. No one seems to be comfortable making jokes or anything like that. Word of advice; if people are listening to a podcast about video games from 20 years ago, they're probably not that different from you, so have fun with it.

>> No.2843919

>>2843884
Thanks, much appreciated! I kinda thought I was loose enough outside of reading the canned intro/game description text, lol. Anyway that'll be good to keep in mind for the future.

>> No.2843935

>>2843919
Any time. For the record, I'm a fan of the show. Loved your Xcom episode.

>> No.2843943

>>2840101
If the game was based on a manga, they would've credited the original author in the game like every adapted work typical does.

>> No.2843945

Portscenter is quite good, though the guy has been having some health issues.

>> No.2843948

>>2843831
I wasn't all that impressed by Double Dragon Neon myself either, but that review shat on the game for all the wrong reasons. What is it with IGN attracting ignorant writers anyway?

>> No.2843951

what do retro podcasts even discuss

do they just talk about how much they like older games for hours on end?

>> No.2843990

>>2843935
Thanks for listening! Make sure and talk to us on Twitter if you're into that crap.

>>2843951
Pretty much.

On ours we'd take a game, try to play through it without looking at FAQs cheats or savestates. The idea is to have people help each other on the forum with hints or maps they made or whatever but most of the time nobody does anything. If anything I've enjoyed it overall because like the /vr/ bootcamp I've been forced to play something I wouldn't choose to play on my own, and found that I liked, like Hybrid Heaven or X-Com.
/shill

>> No.2843991

>>2843951
Probably.

I think if someone did like a bookclub, but for gaming where people played a game and talked about it, it would be cool. Especially if the viewers knew what game they were discussing before hand so they could try it out for themselves and then watch the podcast.

One anon on /v/ kind of does it, where him and his friend play a game for a week and then discuss it.

>> No.2844015

>>2843951
The only one I listen to is Retronaughts and that's more of a video game history podcast.

>> No.2844042

>>2805895
>>2806602
Dats daijeubu. I once had a female catholic flip eroge reviewer ban me from her forums for being a zionist.

>> No.2844062

>>2843243
DUDE 80s STUFF LMAO!

>> No.2844067

>>2844042
While that's a dick move on her part you should try not to be a zionist.

>> No.2844146

>>2844067
>NWO
I was joking . I was called a zionist just for saying anti-semitism is bad. Her forum mates all seem to think jews are the root of all evil, and chinks too. And niggers are bad too, or so is "race-mixing".It was basically /pol/ combined with /ecchi/ except everyone(but me) was brown and catholic.

>> No.2844151

>>2844062
EL CAMEENO!!!

FLAMEHROWERS AAYYYYY!!!!!

NOO JURZEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111oneone

LOLOLOL HOW AM I BANKRUPT :sadface:

>> No.2844164

>>2844151
I mean shutting down CGR undertow seems so funny.

Did anyone even watch Undertow? It seemed so shit. It was Mark's style of review, without Mark and some annoyingly voiced guy.

I watched his little Q&A video about the end of CGR undertow and he seemed really mad going "I've reviewed more games then anyone!", when his reviews werent even reviews, it was like "play 30 minutes" "write some stupid shit" style of review instead of being anything deep or in depth.

>> No.2844168

>>2823630
I just watched his Ultima review. Doesn't seem too bad to me.

>> No.2844173

>>2844164
>and some annoyingly voiced guy.

For the longest time I thought the guy was like 14 until I finally saw live action footage of him only to see someone who looked almost like a middle aged hippie.

>> No.2844187

>>2844173
a living cautionary tale for every /vr/ trooper out there

>> No.2844191

>>2844187
Its ok, my voice is moderately deep, and my appearance is well kept.

Although my impending baldness and shaved head, and male version of resting bitch face may cause someone to mistake me for a neo-nazi

>> No.2844205

>>2844146
I know man, just giving you shit :). I always think of Gundam when people talk about Zionism.

>> No.2844209

>>2844168
He does have a huge yellow horse on his bed, though.

>> No.2844214

>>2844015
Every Retronauts is just "I kinda remember that game I thought *bunch of inaccurate horseshit*

Fucking garbage.

>> No.2844221

>>2828937
I don't think anon was trying to imply that it's a large portion of the PC-98 library but instead that it's pretty much nothing but porn and a few 2hu games.

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>>2844205

>> No.2844228

>>2844214
Parrish and Barnholt are alright though, they've got good side-projects too.

>> No.2844253

How do you even start a podcast? Just find some guys and talk about shit?

I think it'd be cool to be a part of a podcast but I don't know if I have anyone to do it with or what topic to focus on.

>> No.2844386

>>2844253
Pretty much.

It helps to have an established site or something to leech off of though to get some initial listeners (although we really don't get much promotion from our parent site). It's hard enough getting people to listen even when you do have one.

>> No.2844560

>>2843948
The guy that reviewed it seemed to have a hate boner for beat-em-ups before he even played the game. He was also all over the place with his critiques. For example, he was bitching about the game being too hard, but then says that he beat it in an hour. He said he played it co-op, then said he used the second controller for extra lives. Basically, he was gonna hate it no matter what.

Although, if it's any consolation, pretty much everyone else calls him a retard for that review.

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>>2844221
Personally, I always figured that rather than trying to go for a "there are good non-porn games on the PC-98 too!" approach, that it would probably be better to push the fact that it had pretty good pr0n

>> No.2845708

>>2845567
That is the correct way to look at it, sir. It's not like porn games are something to be ashamed of in any case, but that's 'murica for you.

...and sadly Japan, it seems these days. They've become even more puritan than the US.

>> No.2845952

>>2844225
Space Jews are white and did nothing wrong.

>> No.2846217

>>2845567
Is the PC-Engine Region Free?

Do you need like a different power adapter for playing In 'murrica.

I kinda like the idea of imports, but I don't have that many... mostly PS3 stuff. I try to keep my games as NTSC-UC as possible outside of games we didn't get here.

But everyones saying PC-Engine over Turbo-Grafx and I'm kinda considering looking into one.

>> No.2846348

>>2846217
CDs are, Hu Cards aren't. I'd recommend the step-down converter, although there are people that insist it's not necessary.

>> No.2846354

>>2845708
Nah, Japan at large has always been kinda like that when it comes to their normies. But then you have various subcultures.

>> No.2846367

>>2846217
PC-Engines run on the same power adapters as Gen 1 Gennys and SNESes. It's no problem finding an adapter that works.
A step-down converter as >>2846348
suggest is completely overkill as
1. you can just use a SNES or Genesis adapter designed for US
2. The PC Engine has a regulator anyway and will take pretty much everything from 6 to 20 V (be wary of the regulator overheating though, at higher voltages), so there's no need to be afraid of the very small difference in output voltage you're likely to get when feeding 120V into a 100V adapter.

>> No.2846414

>>2846354
They've really cracked down on what you can and can't show in media over the past 20 years though.

>> No.2846491

>>2846414

Japan in general is experiencing a far-right resurgence, likely in response to the rising power of their traditional enemy China, the unknown quantity of South Korea, and our inability to get our shit together should the need arise to defend them. While I think this is wise of them to do, it also pivots their culture back to hyper-traditional sexual mores.

Funny thing, our current overlord has been rather entangled with this very movement, though whether it was deliberate on his part (or simply a matter of timing) I cannot say...

>> No.2846507

>>2846491
>pivots their culture back to hyper-traditional sexual mores.
This might be difficult for you to grasp but there has never been a single time in Japan's history where the population was dominated by fetishistic perverts. Stop getting all your information about the country from anonymous posts on the Internet.

>> No.2846514

>>2846491
Nah, that's just Japan that doesn't want to get called silly by an increasingly prude big brother 'Murica, so they put some laws down to make it appear like they're doing something.

>> No.2846532

>>2846507

I never meant to imply their hentai represented their culture, stop projecting.

>>2846514

Whatever makes you feel better.

>> No.2846586

>>2846514
Only thing is that the guys pushing for censorship of lolicon hentai and whatever are also the same guys that deny that Japan had nightmare death camps in Manchuria and forced gooks and chinks into prostitution.

>> No.2846597

>>2846586

Which is, of course, garbage. That happened. One thing you're forgetting though is that this is just how warfare was done in that part of the world, since time out of mind. The Chinese would've done the same or worse, had the situation been reversed.

The rest of the world decided the old ways of waging war were no longer acceptable. Asia took a rather long while to get that memo, unfortunately.

>> No.2846610

>>2846597
Well, its easy for the victors to impose their will on the losers.

Look at all the trials of the Nazi's. Those "trials" were a total fucking farce. Set up to make the allies look good in the eyes of history while condemning the nazi's as absolute scum.

If Germany had won, I somehow doubt they would be holding trials accusing Allied forces of "war crimes".

>> No.2846630

>>2846610

>If Germany had won, I somehow doubt they would be holding trials accusing Allied forces of "war crimes".

Yes they would have, unless by that you mean the Americans. The Nazi's weren't actually that interested in America. But the Maquis? You bet your ass they would've been on trial. Same for the British forces. And by the end of the war the Nazi's absolutely loathed the Soviets (rightly so).

Those three I just mentioned would've hung from the highest tree.

>> No.2846689

>>2846630
Hitler meant well. During his quest for the Holy Grail he foresaw the coming of the Weinstein Brothers and how badly they were going to fuck up classic Hong Kong movies. He wanted people to be able to watch the uncut "Rumble in the Bronx" on DVD with the burned-in subs. He just took it too far.

>> No.2846690

>>2846689

>I am triggered by your refusal to see history through the absolute lens of heroes and demons.

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>>2833680
Yes, those games are interesting and Bruno's the only best writer they have articles by and the best working in the medium. He's just not a native english speaker, but in terms of the content, he's the only critic to give a critical analysis of videogames that meet any reasonable standard.

Not an otaku-friendly encyclopedia, not popular reviews rating the game's fun/10, not feminist propaganda, actually engaged criticism of the kind you can find on film and literature. Some of HG101's articles try to approach this, but anyone covering videogames is going to be as second rate critic so they always come off as stumbling and pretentious, but at least they're trying.

Besides Bruno, the only real criticism I can find on any videogames is from media theorists, Friedman, Galloway, etc. **No, not Bogost, he's a fuckwad.**

>> No.2848001

>>2846689
>uncut "Rumble in the Bronx" on DVD with the burned-in subs.

Hey, I have that DVD. Worth it.

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>>2835860
>>2833614
Are you guys stupid? He's very clearly making fun of feminists. He's saying Sarkeesian's favorite damsell in distress trope was already undermined long before any hipster indies had to come in to save videogames, meaning they're stupid and uninformed for thinking they were knocking down any walls. Yes, it's petty and irrelevant but I don't know how you can completely misinterpret the point.

>>2837861
And this, of course, is the fucking point. It's not satire, it's sarcasm. Where the fuck is your reading comprehension?

>> No.2848040

>>2848010
Take a look at Kurt's Twitter's activity and the people he follows before you actually dismiss the viewpoints on that article as badly written satire. He retweets fucking FNVG for God's sake.
http://fucknovideogames.tumblr.com/

>> No.2848076

>>2848040
>look at the tumblr
>some tweet by Brandon Morse
>"If you want to be trans, go ahead. Don't force everyone to pretend along with you"

Fucking based.

>> No.2848084

>>2848076
Don't even try talking shit bout my Newhalf waifus, are WE CLEAR?!

>> No.2848158

>>2848076

Trans people are legally recognized as the opposite sex after undergoing sex reassignment surgery. It's even updated on their birth certificates. At that point, I'd hardly call it pretend. Are you really going to single a passable post-op tranny out of a crowd and defiantly address her as "he" and "him" for fear of embracing PC standards?

There's a difference between being opposed to political correctness and being a blatant jerkass. I don't like political correctness, but I actually sit down and research shit before jumping to conclusions about it. You're not sticking it to some SJW boogeyman by trying to pigeon-hold all trannies into tumblrisms and write them off as insane. You're just being a /pol/tard.

>> No.2848310

>>2848158
Ok

So how about the Bruce Jenner case?

Wants to live as a woman, but not go through the surgery.

Essentially living as a man in drag.

>> No.2848342

>>2848158
Not recognized in the eyes of the LAWD!

>> No.2848350

sure is gayday on /vr/ today

>> No.2848359

>>2848158
That's transsexuals you're talking about. He's talking about transgendered (those people that "feel" the wrong sex but haven't changed any physical characteristics).

>> No.2848365

>>2848359
>That's transsexuals you're talking about.
>He's talking about transgendered

This stuff's getting really complicated. Now's as good a time to stop as any, guys.

>> No.2848541

>>2848001
That's one of the ones that slipped through my grasp. The original subs are half the fun...

>>2848010
Have you not been to the site before, or is this bait?

>> No.2848569

>>2848541
>Have you not been to the site before, or is this bait?
To be fair, a lot of the passages written in that 80s Video Game Heroines retrospective come off like bad attempt at satire if you didn't know any better (Girl's Garden in particular). But nope, Kurt and Derboo mean every word in them.

>> No.2848575

>>2848365
Hey what's the difference between a transgender and a transvestite?

The transvestite doesn't actually think he's a woman.

>> No.2848594

Guys should I put a section for social justice and transgendered rights on my website?

Just kidding. I'd never do something so silly because we're here to talk about bideogames.

>> No.2848613

>>2848569
Yeah, my bad - I can totally see that.

>> No.2848623

>>2848575
The transvestite can go home and fuck his spouse, not his gender fluid pansexual otherkin lifemate.

>> No.2850705

Hey guys we're talking shit about you on the HG101 forums.

Actually I'm sticking up for /vr/, so you're welcome.

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>>2850705
Honestly I couldn't give less of a shit.

Most forum goers are faggots anyways.

4chan (and to a lesser extent, something awful) has always been the place to get the unfiltered word out.

>> No.2851312

>>2851305
It's also a good place to get people bitching about GCCX discussions and other things that break the order in their life.

>> No.2851316

>>2851305
>something awful
>place to get the unfiltered word out
That might had been true a decade ago, but that place is just as full of dimwits as any other forum nowadays.

>> No.2851330

>>2851316
Somethingawful is like the paid version of NeoGAF. Cronyism and groupthink at its best.

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Pretty sure no one actually proof reads any of the articles on HG101, there are so many typos I catch just glancing over an article its insulting, do they even speak english over there

>> No.2851467

>>2833603
>>2825034
Opinions so objective I forgot to laugh.

>> No.2851554

It's funny how we go from sort of suggesting sites to bitching about sites, to bitching about people behind those sites and then bitching about trannies.

>> No.2851563

I like informative retro scene sites, but none exist.

I rather eschew reviews in favor of archives/downloads of retro games I can download and play/emulate myself

>> No.2851736

You're not supposed to use HG101 as a fucking encyclopedia.

>> No.2851873

>>2851554
My thoughts exactly.
Although I find it more sad than funny.

>> No.2851931

>>2805258
Fuck it.
The board is flooded with retards from /tv/.
I'm out for good,have fun shitposting.

>> No.2851936

>>2851931
Sorry to see you go, here's something you can check out that would be relevant to you interests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2_I0EGhcB4

>> No.2851965

>>2845708
But there's a lot of porn games still being produced in the VN market.

>> No.2852051

>>2851305
>Something awful
When was the last time you've actually ever been to SA?

>> No.2852138

>>2852051
Like 2005 or something.

>> No.2852164

>>2852138
Makes sense.

It's sadly kind of a huge SJW hellhole now.

>> No.2853184

>>2852138
Sounds reasonable, 2005 was arguably the last year SA was worth something.

>> No.2853190

>>2853184
I guess they had a little comeback when Game Center CX subs gained notoriety

>> No.2853328

>>2851305
>unfiltered word out
Kek.