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Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:11:42 2015 No.2800235 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrFcYbwz_ws

MGS PC is missing some effects. But it has fixed all the awful PS1 3D issues that most games have. I say the PC version is worth it.

Shame it doesn't work on modern systems.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:13:07 2015 No.2800239 File: 42 KB, 330x315, 1411061556633.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HD PS1 graphics, that shit never gets old. If you want a fancy remake with bad cutscenes just play Twin Snakes.

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:15:42 2015 No.2800247

>>2800239

The only issue with PS1 in HD are the wobbling and parkinsons. I can accept the rest. It's just an old game.

>Twin Snakes

Is a cheap, half-assed remake by incompetent devs. The environments are just so soulless. I'd much rather play the original.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:16:19 2015 No.2800248 Let me guess, you think the best version of Kirby's Adventure is on GBA too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:17:58 2015 No.2800251 >>2800248 1. Kirby games were never good, they're just fluff for kids. 2. That's a full remake, not a port. 3. The PC port of MGS is just MGS: Integral with some fixed 3D issues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:30:54 2015 No.2800281 >>2800247 Hey man, Twin Snakes is like Spiderman 3. Its comedy of the year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:31:59 2015 No.2800285 >>2800247 >Is a cheap, half-assed remake by incompetent devs. The environments are just so soulless. I'd much rather play the original. Oh I know, it's the version that faggots who can't stand playing native PS1 games deserve.

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:39:53 2015 No.2800302

>>2800247
I played TTS this year just to see what it was like. So much disappointment. A big part of the appeal of MGS is playing a normal dude and taking out guys with ridiculous and impossible powers by punching and shooting them in the face. A lot of that gets lost when Snake can suddenly do backflips straight out of The Matrix.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:53:39 2015 No.2800320 >>2800247 >The environments are just so soulless. Everything looks like it's made of plastic. There's no dirt or grime or texture to anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 19:57:49 2015 No.2800326 >>2800235 >gimped Psycho Mantis fight It's shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 20:09:30 2015 No.2800347 >>2800235 The PC version is like a straight port from a modern emulator (as in non jiggly textures) and that's it

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 21:58:27 2015 No.2800523 >>2800247 >>2800320 Are you high. They are practically the same fucking environments. The 'dirt' is just pixels from their tiny texture size.

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:36:39 2015 No.2800889

>>2800523

TTS everything looks techno and made of plastic.

PS1 original, there is so much better art design. Lower resolution PS1 textures sure, but it looks grittier and more real. TTS also has shitty color filter over much of everything for no reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:39:48 2015 No.2800892 File: 138 KB, 1600x900, mgs_01[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2800889 >>2800523 Snake must infiltrate Shadow Moses, the first USA facility entirely made of plastic.

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 01:41:45 2015 No.2800894

>>2800347
>The PC version is like a straight port from a modern emulator (as in non jiggly textures) and that's it

No PS1 emulator can do non jiggly textures. The PC port is a straight port but with the 3D issues fixed. That's a big enough improvement for me, that puts it above the original console or emulation.

Just wish I could get it to work on modern consoles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 02:02:49 2015 No.2800915 >>2800889 >>2800892 sure got autism in here autism about a lackluster gamecube release nobody played, no less

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 07:53:41 2015 No.2801207 >>2800894 >No PS1 emulator can do non jiggly textures They do with the GTE Accuracy hack enabled

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 08:13:20 2015 No.2801228

>>2800235
>MGS PC is missing some effects.

And a good bunch of the OST, which is sampled at ridicolous bits/hz (programmer admitted he downloaded tracks from MGS sites), along with the whole audio department, some of which is even played at the wrong frequencies. Don't get me started on boss music.

PC port flat out sucks, and it's a good thing it stopped running on modern systems.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:23:11 2015 No.2801304 >>2801228 >programmer admitted he downloaded tracks from MGS sites lel wut. Like those crappy mp3's encoded in 56 kbit/s as I downloaded back in 2002? Sure Napster was a thing in 2000 and some people had ISDN connections but holy fuck.

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:41:59 2015 No.2801329

>>2801304

Game audio was usually compressed as well at the time, I don`t think anyone did lossless audio then. I remember that PC version of Shadowman used 192 bit mp3s.

Which is kinda retarded, but understandable because speaker systems weren`t much of a thing back then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:49:40 2015 No.2801334 >>2800248 You are such a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:51:41 2015 No.2801335 >>2800894 that's not true. modern psx emulators have (in near future) anti jiggle and widescreen hack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:53:41 2015 No.2801336 >>2801334 Whoops, meant this guy. >>2800302

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:54:16 2015 No.2801337 >>2801335 needs some games worth playing though keks

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:54:54 2015 No.2801338 >>2801337 >the entine psx library >questionmark

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:56:11 2015 No.2801340 >>2800889 >>2800889 There's a lot that was bad about Twin Snakes, and worse than the original. But you're being pretty retarded there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 09:58:03 2015 No.2801342 >>2801334 >>2801336 Not him, but I agree. Snake wasn't so bad, but the Gray Fox scene with Rex is so horribly drawn out in TTS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:00:21 2015 No.2801348 >>2801335 mednafen is one of the most "modern" out there. The primary dev has confirmed there are not nor ever will be plans for those sorts of hacks. Methinks you talk out your ass. >>2800285 My nigga.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:13:44 2015 No.2801368 >>2801348 me thinks you don't even know what you are talking about, basic bitch. check your privilige and facts before opening your gay mouth. >near future PCSX1

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:30:10 2015 No.2801397 >>2800915 >autism >autism back to /v/

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:32:06 2015 No.2801404 >>2801368 Enjoy your plugin-hell, fuckboi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:34:50 2015 No.2801409 >>2801404 stay mad that you can't have internal integer high-res scaling + correct dithering ü widescreen hack

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:43:30 2015 No.2801424 >>2801409 I'm sorry, this is a US-based site, yurofuck. We don't _use_ letters with needless dots over them in a real country like America.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:49:11 2015 No.2801440 >>2801424 0/10 not even the guy you're talking to, but bringing America into anything is an instant lose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 10:52:55 2015 No.2801451 >>2801424 0/10 redneck neckbeard wannabe-autist

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 11:54:38 2015 No.2801546

>>2801348
>The primary dev has confirmed there are not nor ever will be plans for those sorts of hacks.
No shit, it emulates at 1x the resolution. The widescreen hack is already there anyway if you run mednafen through retroarch

The anti jittery is the GTE accuracy hack

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 12:00:30 2015 No.2801553 >>2801546 but we are talking about a fork of PCSXR with an fork of PCSX-ReARMed's NEON renderer that work on non ARM system >PCSX1

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 12:06:53 2015 No.2801563 >>2801546 Wrong. mednafen has neither of those two. It is strictly accuracy-focused. The closest you get to widescreen is the various scaling/stretching options it has. >>2801553 aka Plugin-Hell: The Emulator

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 12:18:44 2015 No.2801584 >>2801563 aka beauty. this gif is PCSX-R+ OpenGL2. With PCSX1, you will get integer scaling , correct dithering at higher resolutions + widescreen hack

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 12:19:51 2015 No.2801586 File: 893 KB, 1920x1080, 1446436899882.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2801584 *gif

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 12:22:27 2015 No.2801593 File: 2.91 MB, 240x320, 1419032226505.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2801451 >>2801440

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 12:24:24 2015 No.2801596 File: 291 KB, 522x284, enhanced-9365-1405472379-1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2801593

Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:19:51 2015 No.2801665

>>2801207
>>No PS1 emulator can do non jiggly textures
>They do with the GTE Accuracy hack enabled

I've tested that. It reduces the jiggle, not remove it. I used to have videos showing that.

The only PS1 games with zero jiggle are ports to other consoles, like PC or Gamecube. RE2 PC for instance has its jiggle removed. But not all ports removed the jiggle, some were just super lazy. DIno Crisis PC still has jiggle for instance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:20:52 2015 No.2801670 >>2800915 There's nothing wrong criticizing a cheap, rushed lackluster remake. For instance, MGS4 made Shadow Moses look really good while keeping the same look as the original game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:23:46 2015 No.2801674 >>2800894 >The PC port is a straight port but with the 3D issues fixed. Care to elaborate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:25:27 2015 No.2801679 >>2801228 >bad audio Mods could fix that easily.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:25:46 2015 No.2801680 >>2801670 TTS looked fine. It was the FPS mode breaking the game, alter cutscenes and dialogue changes that ruined it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:26:33 2015 No.2801681 >>2801674 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrFcYbwz_ws

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:29:54 2015 No.2801682 File: 915 KB, 245x180, 1420582225411.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2801596

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 13:31:18 2015 No.2801684 >>2801679 As in mod the entire fucking game down to the code.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 14:18:49 2015 No.2801763 >>2801563 >mednafen has neither of those two I said >if you run mednafen through retroarch

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 14:29:34 2015 No.2801792 >>2801763 Retroarch doesn't fundamentally alter the way mednafen renders the game, fool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 15:18:37 2015 No.2801864 File: 415 KB, 1263x737, 2015-11-17_00002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2801792

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 18:12:33 2015 No.2802162 >>2801584 How do you keep the dithering with OpenGL2?

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