Why is this the worst game in the series?

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Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:30:00 2015 No.2794005 [Reply] [Original]

Why is this the worst game in the series?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:31:18 2015 No.2794009 I dunno but I can tell you that the reason you think that is because you haven't played 1-3 or 13

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:32:45 2015 No.2794014 >>2794009 I love 1-3, especially the NES versions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:36:56 2015 No.2794019 >>2794005 because the job system makes neets mad

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:41:37 2015 No.2794024 >>2794005 Because you can't marry Faris

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:45:33 2015 No.2794030 >>2794005 It's not

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 20:53:18 2015 No.2794038 /vr/ needs a ff containment thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:11:31 2015 No.2794061 >>2794009 I can tell you haven't played 14, which actually IS the worst.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:13:46 2015 No.2794064 >>2794005 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. Anything made after IX is the worst game in the series.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:14:52 2015 No.2794065 I....love FFV...

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:19:38 2015 No.2794071 >>2794005 Reminder that this isn't /v/ and since it's slower, you don't have to put retarded bait in your OPs to get people to respond. Just make a FFV thread next time. Favorite class? Dancer here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:22:54 2015 No.2794073 >>2794064 X is a great game anon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:26:52 2015 No.2794076 >>2794073 >X is a great game anon No it isn't. Not even slightly. Fuck it and it's stupid quidich ripoff BS

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:30:54 2015 No.2794081 >>2794076 Blitzball is pretty rad, yo. I ain't even trollin'. I like all your favorite jrpgs, too, don't get me wrong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:42:39 2015 No.2794096 >>2794076 Either you don't understand blitzball, or you don't understand quidditch. I suspect both.

Anonymous Fri Nov 13 21:53:12 2015 No.2794110

>>2794064
but....
Final Fantasy III es fucking boring LOL
Final Fantasy IV is total shit LOL
Final Fantasy VII is a fucking bad game HAHAHAH
Final Fantasy VIII is twilithg very shitty thing and a very bad game LOL
Final Fantasy XII-XV HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH these games are so bad like Final Fantasy III or VIII

Final Fantasy V is Easy the third better, a really wonderfull game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:26:23 2015 No.2794160 >>2794005 2, 8 and the 13 series exist

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:27:46 2015 No.2794162 >>2794076 You've never played Final Fantasy X nor read nor seen Harry Potter have you

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:36:36 2015 No.2794173 >>2794162 I've seen both. Final Fantasy X sucked gigantic dick and was an insult to fans of the series, much like many other franchises that made it to the PS2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:38:37 2015 No.2794175 >>2794160 There's nothing wrong with VIII, man, don't be like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 22:58:46 2015 No.2794196 >>2794019 underrated post

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:00:36 2015 No.2794201 >>2794005 It's the best /vr/ one. X is my favorite, though. Please don't hurt me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:02:30 2015 No.2794203 >>2794173 It was only insulting previous ff fans by how good it turned out to be

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:11:53 2015 No.2794212 >>2794203 I can see I'm obviously being trolled, so I'm going to abandon bread now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:14:36 2015 No.2794215 File: 17 KB, 350x277, shrug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2794005 Because it wasn't localized until close to seven years after its initial release and thus had to play catch-up with IV, VI, and VII.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:20:53 2015 No.2794224 I can't think of a reason, since I feel it is probably the most "complete" one on the SNES. No glaring stat bugs, nothing major left out that ruins the story, etc. Also it's lighthearted and fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 13 23:26:52 2015 No.2794230 >>2794038 This. I'm tired of seeing FF circlejerk threads everyday.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 02:31:48 2015 No.2794485

>>2794005
Because you care about story more than gameplay? idk, I thought FFV was pretty fun when I played it 10 years ago, and I'm not normally big on RPGs.

>>2794038
This. We also need a better list outlining what the definitive versions of each FF game are, since SE has made so many fucking versions.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 07:00:13 2015 No.2794726

>>2794073
I couldn't get past the voice acting.

And not just Tidus's shit acting, but Yuna's too.

The way... she would randomly... interpose pauses in... everything... she said. It got... pretty frus... trating.

When you're billing your game as the first Final Fantasy with voice acting and both your leads are shit, the game suffers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ow4_Cmk0

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>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 07:47:13 2015 No.2794771 >>2794753 i am a yam

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 07:50:43 2015 No.2794775 File: 673 KB, 1200x1600, Iori_Yagami[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2794753 >im yagami I wish I was as cool as the op... :<

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 08:01:09 2015 No.2794790

>>2794173
Come on dude yeah the movie-like cutscenes and acting were a little too much to handle if you were an hardcore fan and the lack of world map/non-linearity really sucked but at least it still felt like a FF game for what it was.

>>2794726
I didn't really didn't mind Tidus, or any other minus Seymour. Although I wish there was a patched undub version because I never listened the original VAs work.

This thread sucks by the way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 08:37:58 2015 No.2794821 best final fantasies according to me: 1=best 99=worst 1. X 2. X-2 3. VIII 4. VI 5. VII 6. IX 7. XII 8. V 97. XIII Other still have to be played... (I left free spots 98 and 99 for xiii-2 and xiii-3)

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 08:53:48 2015 No.2794827 >>2794061 I don't know about you, but I don't even count 11 or 14 when talking about the FF series as a whole. I REALLY wish they'd stop giving roman numerals to MMOs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:04:10 2015 No.2794829 FFV is best FF Best mechanics, everything flowed so well and ultimately had fun all the way through.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:25:05 2015 No.2794842 >>2794005 baka desu senpai >inb4 300 replies because /vr/ can't resist fresh bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:48:18 2015 No.2794863 OP is more of a faggot then moot times a million OPs I know it's not retro but XIII was the shittiest of the shit. X-2 was close 2nd. V was awesome as fuck, you were probably playing the pleb translation for GBA

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:49:19 2015 No.2794864 >>2794827 this

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:50:34 2015 No.2794867 >>2794863 >bumping >introducing FF version wars in an already shitty thread Go play with your friends OP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:52:09 2015 No.2794868 Daily reminder that if you think any Final Fantasy other than 5, 6 or 7 (or Tactics) is the best you're a retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:53:32 2015 No.2794870 >>2794485 The story was fine, sure kinda cookie cutter FF plot for a bit but then BAM NEW PLANET!!! Also It's the origin story of Gilgamesh and the introduction of the n-zone/dissidea-space/whatever you call it in between dimension.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:54:45 2015 No.2794872 >>2794867 hey retard, this thread is already about version wars, read the fucking first post

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 09:57:36 2015 No.2794873

>>2794485
>We also need a better list outlining what the definitive versions of each FF game are, since SE has made so many fucking versions.
We had one compiled directly from a thread. It was called shit and thrown out the window.

We'd need a whole goddamn wiki and /vr/ would still bitch about it because it's FF. Everyone has their favorite number, version, and translation and gets extremely asspained when it's presented wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:00:11 2015 No.2794874 >>2794873 trust me, final fantasy fans don't work well in a wiki. Maybe if it were a wiki purely for storyline and lore... but there will still be tears.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:00:44 2015 No.2794878 File: 2 KB, 100x200, 1436992308257.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2794872 >OP is about a main series game >anon somehow interprets it to be about a specific version of a main series game

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:02:21 2015 No.2794881 >>2794874 just imagine the hate that would result in trying to answer the question of "who was the real bad guy in FFVII?"

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:03:40 2015 No.2794883 >>2794881 >article of the month "The Soap Opera of Cloud's Love Life."

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:04:28 2015 No.2794884 >>2794878 oh, you were referring to my comment on the GBA version, jesus christ you blew that out of the water. It was just an offhand, flippant remark regarding how I hate that translation, not really relating to the rest of my comment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:09:25 2015 No.2794887 Top 5 FF games: III, V, IX, VI, X-2 I do think people are too hard on 13, but the fact that I think that probably indicates something about what I expect from a JRPG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:11:26 2015 No.2794890 >>2794887 for good reason, it was a straight line and lightning had no character or personality, she was just a fanservice-bot

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:12:00 2015 No.2794891 Not even the worst retro FF. Not as long as 8 exists.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:15:41 2015 No.2794896

The worst in the series is XIII-2.

Lightning Returns is a very close second. The battle system is actually pretty good, it kinda uses the dressphere thing in X-2, but it totally lacks any charm that that game had. Imagine X-2 but with one protagonist who has no emotions at all. That sounds great.

So LR has one thing going for it, but XIII-2 has literally nothing going for it. The battle system is even more simplified than XIII's, the two protagonists are entirely uninteresting, the villain is whatever, and the story is incomprehensible, and I honestly don't understand how/where/why it even fits in the whole XIII trilogy.

But XIII-2 and LR are the only Final Fantasy games I would flat out call "bad" and tell people to just avoid entirely. Every other game brings something interesting to the table.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:16:03 2015 No.2794897

>>2794891
8 was kick ass in it's own way and fucking lame in a few other ways, that in my view were overshadowed by the awesome.
>fucking puke inducing romance plot that turns into something like trying to watch a doctor who marathon on bad acid on fast forward
>something like only 12 monsters on the entire map, no color variants for them, hell and heaven islands don't count
>if you don't like to grind and go full blown autism on menu screens stay the fuck away

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:17:51 2015 No.2794901 >>2794896 All I';ve ever heard was how 13-2 was much better than 13. You're the first person I've ever seen say otherwise,

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:18:32 2015 No.2794903 >>2794897 oh and those monsters are on the moon as well. I was so fucking pissed off when the monsters from the moon came down and it was a bunch of geezards and bombs

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:22:42 2015 No.2794908

>>2794901
It fixes SOME problems, like the game not being a giant hallway. But the trade-off is that the game runs at like 20fps.

XIII had three characters you can control during battle, XIII-2 gives you two characters and a pokemon that does it's own thing.

Some of the characters in XIII were kinda cool. Sazh and Fang, mostly. Meanwhile, if you replaced Noel and Serah with emotionless robots, the story would not change at all. Serah's motivation was "uh...Lightning", and Noel's motivation was "gotta go to the future to change the past".

And the story is a massive clusterfuck. I have a decent grip on the entire Kingdom Hearts storyline. I have no fucking idea what the fuck happened in XIII-2 or why any of it mattered.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:42:14 2015 No.2794925

>>2794005
I don't know OP, why don't you tell me why it's the worst one? If you don't I'm going to think it's one of the better ones and also one of the few FF games I can stand to replay nowadays because it's fast pace, LACK of 2deep4u storylines and cringeworthy romance sub-plots not to mention how all the combinations from jobs and abilities give it nearly infinite replay value.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:44:23 2015 No.2794927 >>2794061 Nah, its probably 3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:47:05 2015 No.2794931 >>2794061 Actually 14 has undergone a total overhaul, and is really good now. Especially the soundtrack.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:51:04 2015 No.2794937

>>2794927
III was a step down from II but it brought us the jeorb system(pre-2010 internet slang w00t!) and I gotta say the Void was one of my favorite dissidea characters, she's pretty cool in general. But yeah I can see how somebody wouldn't like III, after the DS version the NES is unplayable.
*waits for buddy to pipe in and whine about version wars again*

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:52:57 2015 No.2794939 >>2794931 but you still have to register with PlayOnline which is like beating your temples with bricks for three hours if your lucky.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 10:55:30 2015 No.2794945 >>2794005 Because it's the best in the series.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 13:12:51 2015 No.2795170

It's the most fun RPG I've played. Very simple game, but it's simplicity allows for fun class combinations. At the same time if you aren't a grind whore the game manages to keep up its difficulty. Light-hearted and fun, it's a good time if you aren't trying to take it super serious.

Some favorite job combos:
- Dancer with Berserk and dancer's knife.

- Cleric with Lance ability from Dragoon. Basically, Lance replaces the Cleric's attack with free Magic damage and self-healing.

- Of course, Knight with Magic Sword.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 13:34:00 2015 No.2795203

>>2795170
I agree with everything you said, but I would love to see the same job system in a more challenging game. Like constantly throwing you into situations where you have to change your jobs around.

Also, I don't think being a certain job when you level up should effect what stats level up. That severely limits your options. That means that you generally want to have two characters that will always be physical attackers and two characters that use magic.

You're naturally drawn to choose Bartz and Galuf as your physical attackers, but then he gets replaced to someone with a shit physical stats. So then you decide to make Faris a physical attacker but whoops, you spent the entire game building her up as a mage, so her stats are also shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 14:27:54 2015 No.2795314 >>2795203 >You're naturally drawn to choose Bartz and Galuf as your physical attackers Speak for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 15:06:48 2015 No.2795382 >>2795203 I usually go Faris and Barts for physical attackers. Faris gets the fancy combo stuff like swordmage and such, often though. Galuf gets to fight with his hands.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 15:10:13 2015 No.2795386 >>2795203 They only gain stat boosts when you master a class and they only affect the freelancer class. If you know where to grind you should have multiple classes mastered with each character.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 19:18:32 2015 No.2795954 >>2794887 Final Fantasy 3 is fucking shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 19:22:14 2015 No.2795964 What's with the /v/ tier threads today?

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 19:34:44 2015 No.2796005 >>2795954 Sounds like you've never played it.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:15:52 2015 No.2796294

>>2796005
Not that guy, but I've played it once and I've never felt inclined to play it again. The story is uninteresting, and V significantly improves upon the job system.

It's not a bad game, and deserves mention for introducing the job system, but looking at all of FF, it doesn't do anything that other FFs don't do better.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:53:38 2015 No.2796383
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I'm taking advantage of this thread to ask if anyone knows about pic related.
It shows a prototype of FF3's jobs, found it on the FF wikia, can't find any info anywhere else. I'd like to know what the jobs they cancelled were about.
One looks like a priest, another looks a lot like a blue mage...

Sorry for the interruption, continue with the shit-flinging.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 21:59:00 2015 No.2796389 >>2794775 kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:28:48 2015 No.2796430 >>2795964 It's the weekend, no school.

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 22:50:16 2015 No.2796472

>>2796294
>but looking at all of FF, it doesn't do anything that other FFs don't do better.
Aside from being ball-bustingly difficult at multiple points in the game. FF1, 3, and 4 all belong to the FFs where you can't shut down the whole game with a handful of overpowered combinations because they either don't exist or only function during specific segments of the game, and FF3 takes that to the next level with a pair of final dungeons from hell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:04:09 2015 No.2796520 The worst game in the series isn't retro, so it's off-topic. (it's FFX)

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:17:30 2015 No.2796551

It's better than any modern final fantasy.

It's amazing that square hasn't managed to do anything better than FFVI and VII, hopefully FFXV will make the newer games be comparable with the overall quality of the old ones.

The problem with modern FF is that square takes half a decade to publish a new game, this makes fans prefer the old ones because all the games since 10 have taken a longer time to make, the long time in development raises people expectations and when the game comes out fans become disappointed,.

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:26:35 2015 No.2796574 >>2796520 the worst game are this 1= worst 1. ffxiii-3 2. ffxiii-2 3.ffxiii 4. ffxii 5.ffv 6.ffiii 7.ffii 8.ff

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:27:36 2015 No.2796578 >>2796574 if you look at it this way ffv is not that bad, there are still worse ffs

Anonymous Sat Nov 14 23:44:21 2015 No.2796602

>>2796472
I don't recall any moments of "ball-busting" difficulty in 1, 3, or 4.

You are right, they are pretty well balanced though. Although in 4's case, I'd expect it to be balanced, since you have absolutely no customization options, and the game has total control over what your party is.

But then, I see that as reason to criticize them, as the game designers would know exactly what they players party would be, and could roughly estimate the level they'd be at, yet the fights are still pretty easy. What they could have done is make fights rely on having to use strategy. Not only would that have increased the challenge, it would serve as compensation for not being able to customize your characters or choose your party.

Making the best with what you're given is a pretty neat concept, but IV never really demands much from the player. Yes, I know the DS version is harder, but it's still an easy game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 06:36:19 2015 No.2797191 >>2796602 Apparently you never did 3's final dungeon without grinding levels for it. It's harder than anything else in the entire series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 15:59:07 2015 No.2798153 Recommendations for more games like FFV class system wise? I've played FF3DS, FFT, DQ3, and the Nippon Ichi games. I'm really craving class mechanic shenanigans. Opinions on Dragon Quest 6?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 18:51:38 2015 No.2798457 >>2798153 DQ6's mechanics are fine, albeit easily breakable by the series' standards, but the rest of the game is pretty standard for DQ. Thankfully, the DS port plays at the speed of light compared to the other games in the series so it's bearable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 18:56:04 2015 No.2798462 >>2796430 Yeah I've noticed /vr/ gets significantly worse on weekends. No School definitely explains it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 19:08:42 2015 No.2798483 >>2794775 Komo mama dewa owaranzo!

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 19:25:47 2015 No.2798513 >>2797191 Sound like he forgot about all the moon sections in 4 as well.

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 20:57:01 2015 No.2798675

>>2797191
>>2798513
One could easily argue that those sections are just poorly balanced, and not challenging by design, but that's not an argument that can be won by either side.

Playing through either game, I never felt like the game was pushing me to really use everything I had at my disposal and exploit the mechanics in every way I could.

They might be hard sections compared to most FF games, but no FF game is remembered for being challenging. In the broad spectrum of JRPGs or RPGs in general, they're incredibly easy.

Just because it has moments in it where you can actually die doesn't mean it's hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:18:51 2015 No.2798713 >>2794821 13-2 and 13-3 are much less linear than the first one, so if anything, judging by most complaints of those games, 13-1 would be 99.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:20:21 2015 No.2798717 >>2796383 >That sleepy black mage lul

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 21:22:21 2015 No.2798724
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Elder God Tier:
Final Fantasy Tactics

High Tier:
Final Fantasy VI

Mid Tier:
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy IX

Low Tier:
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy II

Shit Tier:
FF Mystic Quest

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 22:00:24 2015 No.2798789 >>2798724 Why would you even throw Mystic Quest in with them? It was definitely not meant to be on the same level as any of the other games, and was explicitly made to be an incredibly simplified RPG.

Anonymous Sun Nov 15 22:25:39 2015 No.2798818

>>2798713
>13 is linear!

So is the rest of the series. Do you even get to realistically make any choices about where your party should be going before the end game in the majority of the games in the series? Rhetorical, the answer is "Except for 2 and 12, no."

Why is it that 13 gets shit on for doing this and called a hallway simulator but nobody will give 10 any shit for doing the exact same thing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 15 23:01:27 2015 No.2798857 >>2798789 I just loathed MQ that much

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 00:15:04 2015 No.2798949 >>2798724 i really need to fucking tactics one day, is it so good that i should just do it even though i dont really like to play jrpgs anymore?

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 00:18:15 2015 No.2798953 >>2798949 FFT isn't a standard jrpg. Do you like stuff like Disgaea or Fire Emblem or Shining Force? If so you will probably love it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 00:21:52 2015 No.2798958 >>2798953 i've played couple of them back when i used to like jrpgs but the grind is real is tactics particularly good/challenging gameplay-wise? i'll give it a shot if it's not 80 hours of boring or easy mechanics

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 00:26:01 2015 No.2798963 >>2798958 has some hard bosses, game becomes a cakewalk after you get a certain character about halfway through. should last about 100 hours if you wanna do every side-quest and get autistic with the job system

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Anonymous Mon Nov 16 02:09:23 2015 No.2799079

>>2798818
Pretty sure one of the biggest criticisms I see for X is the fact that there's no overworld.

Even though most of them are very much linear, the overworld at least gives the illusion that you're on this grand adventure, and you're exploring the world.

You can boil it down to just linear corridors, sure, but that takes a good chunk out of the game.

At the very least, X tends to have all the usual stuff like towns, shops, stuff like that. XIII doesn't even have any of that, and while I don't think it's a dealbreaker, it's a damn shame.

If other aspects of the game were really good, like if it had great characters, story, or even just battle mechanics, people wouldn't be critical of that aspect. But as it stands, it's just another thing to add on the pile of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 02:18:53 2015 No.2799085 >>2798724 Top Tier First playthrough of Tactics, V, IV Good Tier I, IX, XII Okay Tier: Tactics after multiple playthroughs because now you know how broken it is, III, X Meh Tier: FFTA2, FFTA, VII, VI Shit Tier: II, VIII, XIII

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 02:20:38 2015 No.2799090 >>2799085 Every FF can be broken beyond shit, nurdo. Also why are people talking about the non-retro FF's? This is /vr/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 02:30:59 2015 No.2799103 >>2799090 There are multiple FFs that can't be broken and only FFVI-VIII can even begin to be compared to FFT in terms of how broken their mechanics are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:16:07 2015 No.2799125 >>2799085 ew, you're ugly

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:18:38 2015 No.2799127 Because japs from Square can't stand to have an old game in your party, so they took out the only characters that was kind of cool and replaced him with his bratty granddaughter or whatever the fuck she was.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 03:33:17 2015 No.2799136 >>2798975 Fuck the guy who wrote that piece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 09:18:04 2015 No.2799450 >>2794005 Top Tier FFVI-FFV-FF Tatics-FFIV Master Tier FF III-FFII Meh Tier FFX-FFXII-FFVIII-FFIX SHIT TIER FFVII-FFXIII Suck it all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 09:21:35 2015 No.2799458 >>2799136 I don't even like V and think he sounds like an insecure prick.

Anonymous Mon Nov 16 13:19:45 2015 No.2799741

I find it hard to say one is better than the other, as they generally have something that's unique to them that they did really well.

Only exception is maybe III, as V really fleshed out the job system.

Even some of the weaker titles, I'd absolutely recommend them to someone interested in the series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 16:20:45 2015 No.2800006 >>2794212 It may be the re4 of final fantasy games, but re4 was still a damn good game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Nov 16 17:25:30 2015 No.2800115 >>2799450 >master tier >2 I seriously hope you aren't referring to the original glitchy Famicom version.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 17:30:35 2015 No.2802107 >>2794868 Underrated post.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 17 21:55:32 2015 No.2802421 >>2798513 Moon is not as hard as people make it out to be. Honestly had more problems with the final dungeon of 5 than I did for 4. 3's was fucking brutal though yeah. Definitely the hardest stretch in the series.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 02:44:14 2015 No.2802696 >>2798975 Isn't Exdeath from Exodus?

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 03:12:30 2015 No.2802715 >>2802696 No, he's from the Void.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 04:41:50 2015 No.2802779 File: 402 KB, 500x282, giphy (1).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2802715

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 18 11:03:27 2015 No.2803207 >>2794038 I'm fucking sick of all these threads liking FF already!!

>>	Anonymous Thu Nov 19 14:50:56 2015 No.2805773 VIII or VII?

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 13:18:42 2015 No.2807546 >>2794005 XIII takes the cake. Hell XIII is barely even a game.

Anonymous Fri Nov 20 14:12:28 2015 No.2807627

My personal opinion

I'm not putting any of these in God tier because while I do like the series, none of these games are in my personal top ten or anything. There's some great games in here but nothing that has stood the test of time for me; they're all games I can replay once every couple of years but liked the first time I played them (as opposed to Chrono Trigger and a few other RPGs, which I can replay frequently without boredom). I'm including non-/vr/ games as well just to give more perspective.

GREAT TIER
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VI
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy V

GOOD TIER
Final Fantasy I
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

OKAY TIER
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (multiplayer only)

NEVER ENJOYED IT TIER
Final Fantasy VIII

WOULD RATHER PLAY BUBSY THAN THIS
Final Fantasy II

HAVEN'T PLAYED
Final Fantasy IX
Any of the other CC games
Any of the Legends games
Any numbered game after FFX

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 15:11:29 2015 No.2807728 >merged world music >mountain music >ship graveyard music

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 15:23:05 2015 No.2807760 >>2794019 lel Also that is not FF2 - FF2 is so bad >>2794038 Shut up nerd

>>	Anonymous Fri Nov 20 15:25:47 2015 No.2807763 >>2794019 SHEEEEEIT

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 21 06:07:27 2015 No.2808910 >>2794201 Tidus's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Day was okay desu senpai

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 21 15:47:04 2015 No.2809595 >>2794863 >pleb translation for GBA Finally someone who has the correct opinion

>>	Anonymous Sat Nov 21 16:57:47 2015 No.2809709 >>2809595 I agree, the alterations they made to mobile/Steam made it better though Steam is absolutely shit in comparison to mobile due to shit porting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Nov 22 21:21:54 2015 No.2812206 It's not though

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 04:17:58 2015 No.2812865

>>2795382
My nigga. Galuf was also my monk in the game. Later I turned him into a samurai.

Bartz was the knight, and everything of that order.

Faris was some hybrid class for the most part in my games, dancing between physical and magical.

The other bitch whose name I don't remember was the only pure mage.

Until the last character comes aboard. That is where my problem with this game lies. I hated that character and I hated that she had to replace the best character and it was dumb and stupid even if the way before mentioned character leaves is fucking awesome.

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 04:23:32 2015 No.2812872

>>2798724
Meh, I probably go with the bandwagon, but for me:

>>Elder God Tier
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VI

>>High Tier
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy IV
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy X
Final Fantasy X-2(yes, the job system was fucking great in this one)

>>Mid tier
Final Fantasy V
Final Fantasy III
Final Fantasy
Crisis Core
GBA Final Fantasies
Dissidia I and II
Final Fantasy XII

>>Low Tier
Final Fantasy XIII/2
Final Fantasy 2

>>Shit tier
Final Fantasy VIII
Rejects like Dirge of Cerberus
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest

Anonymous Mon Nov 23 11:20:10 2015 No.2813402
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Magnum opus tier:
FFVI, FFVII

"Real old-school Final Fantasy" tier:
FFI, FFIII, FFV

The game that set the standards we associate the words "Final Fantasy" with tier:
FFIV

Necessary evil tier:
FFX

Good but somewhat failed attempt to combine the best from older and newer games tier:
FFIX

Adquired taste tier:
FFII, FFVIII, FFX-2, FFXII

MMO tier:
FFXI, FFXIV

Pic related tier:
FFXIII trilogy

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 00:39:47 2015 No.2815027 >>2794868 Hit the nail on the head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:29:52 2015 No.2815881 >>2794038 >go to a board that limits the number of games talked about >complain that certain games are talked over and over again it was the future that you choose

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 13:42:55 2015 No.2815893 >>2798724 >Elder God Tier- FF VI >God Tier - FF V >High Tier FF FF IV FF VII FF IX FF X FF XII >Mid Tier FF II FF III FF VIII >Hallway Simulator Tier FF XIII >Good for what it is Tier FF Mystic Quest

Anonymous Tue Nov 24 14:37:09 2015 No.2815990

FFV is the worst because it barely has a plot and because many jobs are shit.

Then again:
FFI is the worst because the original version is filled with bugs and the remakes of it made it too easy.
FFII is the worst because the execution of it's stat gaining system wasn't good.
FFIII is the worst because many jobs are shit and no save points in dungeons.
FFIV is the worst because it removed the ability to choose your party members and has absolutely no character customization either.
FFVI is the worst because it also has shitloads of bugs and too many playable characters for it's own good.
FFVII is the worst because it's graphics haven't aged well and because it popularized overly long attack animations and FMV cutscenes making them a norm in JRPGs.
FFVIII is the worst because it's an extension of everything wrong with FFVII and because the presentation of it's story.
FFIX is the worst because it's a failed attempt to combine the best aspects of past FFs making it a mess that doesn't know what it is trying to be.
FFX is the worst because it's linear as shit and has an unskippable FMV cutscene for every 5th step you take.

tl;dr: all FFs are the worst and FF fanbase is shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 14:47:27 2015 No.2816005 >>2815990 Pretty accurate I'd also add sabin controls are broken except for the snes version

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 18:25:57 2015 No.2816353 >>2794005 bad game

>>	Anonymous Tue Nov 24 18:36:39 2015 No.2816378 >>2794064 Screw you, I love FFXII, there's so fucking much to do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 04:26:50 2015 No.2817142 FF2 was the worst one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Nov 25 06:37:27 2015 No.2817213 >>2798975 >beds are burning

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