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2771017 No.2771017 [Reply] [Original]

Is it worth it to buy a Snes or should I just emulate the games? I've only ever had Sega consoles in the past, and was looking to play some Snes stuff.

>> No.2771030

>>2771017

SNES is the best console ever. It will look like crap on a modern TV though... you're gonna need an old tv if you want it to look like it should.

>> No.2771034

>>2771017

but to give you an honest answer... since most SNES games don't require much processing power.. emulation is usually rather spot-on for most games.

>> No.2771035

>>2771017
Just emulate it through snes9x or bsnes plugins on libretro. There's really no reason to buy the original hardware when emulation is 100% accurate. you can even hook your desktop/laptop up to an older tv if you want.

>> No.2771036

>>2771030
I'll probably use the same TV I use with my Mega Drive.

>> No.2771040

>>2771034
this. if you really want to play a bunch of different snes games, emulation is the way to go. collecting is much more difficult, expensive, and slow. if you just download an emulator and some roms, you can play any game you want, right now. you're on a machine right now that can do that. why are you asking us when you could be playing? go play some snes.

>> No.2771042

>>2771017

emulation will also give you advantages like save states at any point during the game (something you could never do on an actual SNES unless you're using an everdrive). not to mention most actual SNES carts have the memory battery dead by now, so you need to either replace them or get ones that work etc.

SNES is dope, but like all things from the past it will take some time, dedication and a lil money to get where you wanna be.

emulating will scratch the itch... but deep down you'll still be a fag for not playing the real deal.

>> No.2771047

>>2771017

and by the way, a super famicom (pic related) isn't exactly a SNES either.

>> No.2771054

>>2771047
That's not a Super Famicom, it clearly says Super Nintendo Entertainment System on it.

>> No.2771059

>>2771054

PAL version, whatever... point being that North American SNES carts won't even fit in that.

>> No.2771062

>>2771059
I wasn't planning on buying carts from America, anyway.

>> No.2771067

>>2771062

believe me, it's still nice to have the option though. investments should be made wisely. think about these things.

>> No.2771080

>>2771067
It costs way too much to ship things from the States to Australia, it's way cheaper to get games from Japan.

>> No.2772180

>>2771017
Depends on what you're looking for, some better titles are hugely overpriced thanks to collectors, but you could get say, Earthbound on a flashcart, if you dont want to pay hundreds of dollars for an old videogame.

If you have a Wii you can get a lot of old console titles for very cheap on Virtual Console, I think they even had NeoGeo, so it's not just Nintendo titles on that.

>>2771030
You don't need a fat old tube screaming at the limits of human hearing to enjoy old games.

Just set up your flatscreen with the right stuff. Or play straight on your computer with an emulator.

>>2771035
I'll agree on this.
Buy a cheapo USB gamepad with enough buttons for a SNES (and maybe a turbo button if you fancy it), you're set (doesn't even have to be a clone of the SNES dogbone, I use a Dualshock clone, analog sticks are kinda bad but everythinh else is servicable, only like 12 dollars). I say get a gamepad because while you -can- use a keyboard, gamepads are just much better for platformers and other fast console games.

>> No.2772185

>>2771042
>most actual SNES carts have the memory battery dead by now
Source on that? I've heard of some games going dry on their battery, such as some GBA games, but how widespread is this?

>> No.2772418
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>>2772180
I built this USB gamepad a few weeks back - it's got 16GB of storage in it so you can keep all your ROMs and emulators stored in it. Had to sacrifice the cartridge but it was worth it - plug and play on any computer, plenty of storage for NES / Genesis / Gameboy ROMs as well ;P

>> No.2772448

>>2772418

is that raspberry pi2 based or whut?

>> No.2772460
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>>2772448
>>2772448
Nope - just a micro controller, USB hub, and a thumbdrive. It supplies the USB joysticks and file storage - it still needs a computer to run the emulators, though a rPi would work nicely :)

>> No.2772493

>>2772185
I have a number of SNES carts that use internal batteries to save, none of them have gone dead.

Is it a frequency of use thing?

>> No.2772505

>>2772185

Do you really need a source on someone mentioning the possibility of of batteries over 20 years old needing to be replaced? No offense, but get a life.

>> No.2772720

>>2772418
>>2772460
>Destroying actual hardware for some hipster bullshit.
Please go die of cancer.

>> No.2772839

>>2771034
>since most SNES games don't require much processing power
And those that do are also better on an emulator. Like SFX games, e.g. Star Fox and Stun Race FX, are way better on an emulator.

>> No.2772879

>>2771030
I play mine on an lcd using RGB scart, it's crisp and clear on the pixels.

>> No.2772882

>>2771059
You've made the assumption that OP is American...

>> No.2772889

>>2771059
>point being that North American SNES carts won't even fit in that.

And nothing of value was lost.

>> No.2772947

>>2772889

no PAL versions of chrono trigger, earthbound, FFVI, super mario rpg etc ever came out... yeah, nothing of value was lost. pffft

>> No.2772950

>>2772947

Not to mention that 50hz (PAL) is notably inferior to 60hz (NTSC).

>> No.2772953

>>2772882

probably because he asked a stupid question.

>> No.2772961

>>2772953
Touché

>> No.2772976
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>> No.2773049

>>2772418
Crunk.

>>2772720
Oh boo hoo, that controller is irreplacable, the world may never recover!

>> No.2773064

>>2771042
>but deep down you'll still be a fag for not playing the real deal
Well, fuck you.

>>2772505
>most SNES carts have dead batteries
>source? I rarely hear of that being a problem with SNES cartridges
>get a life lol
Well fuck you too.

>> No.2773083

>>2773064

>expecting batteries to last over 20 years.
>throwing around the F word like a teenager that just learned it
>contributing nothing

this is what /vr/ has become

>> No.2773201

>>2773049
>Oh boo hoo, that controller is irreplacable, the world may never recover!

Also the card, hipster.

>> No.2774132

>>2772418
I don't get it. Other people have put all that in a controller. What's with the card and the ports?
Also, retarded as fuck not using a $2 repro shell.

>> No.2774136

>>2773201
>>2774132

It's fucking Mortal Kombat. The shitty censored one at that. Calm down.

>> No.2774143 [DELETED] 

>>2773201
>card
also I'll never understand these people that get all butthurt over re-using stuff that isn't rare at all and even over produced for projects like this.

>> No.2774145

>>2771059
They will if you grindaway the edges of the cart slot or use a passthrough.

>> No.2774149

>>2772950
No. PAL has a higher resolution and far, far better color accuracy.

>> No.2774150

>>2774132
>>2773201
>card
also I'll never understand these people that get all butthurt over re-using stuff that isn't rare at all and even over produced for projects like this.

>> No.2774156

Emulate. Collecting is fun and the SNES is great but SNES stuff is expensive.

>> No.2774157

>>2771035
>100%
the correct term is
>close to 100%
or maybe something like 99.5%

99.8% is reserved for when we can emulate it on a logic level.
99.9% is reserved for when we can emulate it on an electrical level.

to emulate it at 100% you first need to create the universe

>> No.2774159

>>2774156
SNES stuff isn't even that bad collecting for...
have you tried PC Engine or Saturn?

>> No.2774162

>>2774149
>higher resolution
Almost never used

>color accuracy
You should be using an RGB mod

50Hz flicker is intolerable

>> No.2774165

>>2774157
I don't play games with an oscilloscope, so why would I care? SNES is emulated 100% for the purposes of using it as a normal games console.

>> No.2774170

>>2774149

eurofag you've never even experienced NTSC.

>> No.2774172

>>2774162
yeah, PAL games usually just give you black bars around (at best) 240 lines...

>50 Hz flicker is intolerable
it's just fine, but I grew up with it.

>> No.2774176

>>2774170
>NTSC
You mean Never Twice the Same Color?

PAL is better than NTSC, when it comes to colors and resolution (only in 50 Hz is resolution higher though)
60 Hz is better than 50 Hz though.

If only PAL-60 was more common...

>> No.2774181

I have to disagree with everyone saying that Snes emulation is 100% accurate when it comes to audio. Maybe its just me being an autismo or maybe I did not configure the emulator right (I've tried Zsnes, Snes9x, and Higan/bSnes) but to me emulated Snes audio always seemed to be more dull or muddy sounding than playing on the real hardware (could also be shitty on board sound being shitty). I recently bought Seiken Densetsu 3 and Final Fantasy 5 reproduction carts and was amazed at how much better they sound when played on an actual Snes. The sound effects and music just sound very crisp with higher highs and lower lows. The Snes sound processor has a very unique sound which sounds great when you output to a decent stereo. Even when my pc was using the same stereo it just didn't sound the same when using Snes emulation.

>> No.2774183

>>2774176
>You mean Never Twice the Same Color?
As an American that was funny.

Seriously though fuck 50hz.

>> No.2774184

>>2774162
NTSC TV sets pretty much never had RGB inputs, though (not counting Sony PVMs, which were professional video monitors, not consumer televisions). Only PAL countries had native RGB input on almost all TVs.

>> No.2774189

>>2774156
>SNES stuff is expensive.
maybe if you buy exclusively from crooked ebay re-sellers.

>> No.2774195

>>2774189
What other options are there? Local retro shops are even more expensive. ebay is by far my cheapest option.

>> No.2774202

>>2774195
you could shop around on ebey rather than just buying the first thing you see, also if I remember right there is an ebay like site that is just for retro gaming, I have never used it though.

>> No.2774206

>>2774202
>>2774195
oh, and there is always craigslist or those canadian and australian equivalents if you live in either of those countries.

>> No.2774219

>>2774170
As an Eurofag I actually traveled around and can definitely state that the US is living 30 years behind the rest of the world. I have experienced NTSC and it was disgusting.

>> No.2774225

>>2774219

Yeah, because North America was only using it at the same time as Japan the country that leads the planet technologically. Typical eurofag thinks everything European is superior.

>> No.2774232

>>2774219
I travelled to the USA in the time of CRTs, and I can confirm you are wrong. TV was actually watchable there, because 60Hz flicker is much less annoying than 50Hz.

>> No.2774242

Just imported a Japanese version, and as much as I love my SFC, emulation is the better choice, as you can play every game, relatively inexpensive.

>> No.2774252

>>2774232
Maybe he was actually judging it from the quality of the TV shows ;)

>> No.2774292

>>2773083
>ask to back up statement
>"get a life"
>call someone a fag for emulating, but then turn around and complain about "f words"
Wow, you're a fucking faggot. Disrespect gets met with disrespect, sorry that not everyone on /vr/ gets along with your abrasive attitude.

In my experience, SNES carts have never had dead batteries, and I very rarely hear about them dying on people, I never said it was inconcievable, you galloping cockmongler, I just questioned your statement that it was incredibly common, whereupon you responded like a teenage girl.

>>2774150
I know, right? It's lime fags on /k/ shouting about some bubba hacksawing his 91/30 and crying about MUH HISTORY, as if the majority of those (refurbished) rifles didn't spend their time in storage boxes during WW2 and have little to no value, and as if there aren't like 40 million of them

>> No.2774294

It's a bitch and a half getting good deals on SNES games in my area so I just emulate it. I have a 30ish game collection but I never really feel like dragging it out. I really wish emulation was better. If an SD loader for the snes comes out with 100% compatibility I'll buy it immediately

>> No.2774303

>>2774292

you've obviously bought carts where the batteries have been replaced. just stop and think about what you're saying, you retarded chodehead.

>> No.2774313

>>2774292

>gets on 4chan & thinks fag is an insult.

learn to regular

>> No.2774348

>>2774303
>carts in my possession since the day they were released
>still original batteries
lol ok

>>2774313
Fag is context sensitive.
I objected to him using it in that context because who gives a shit if you emulate or play on original hardware? It's needless elitism.

>> No.2774482

If I buy a SFC can I use my SNES AC adapter for it or nah?

>> No.2774504

>>2774482
depends on whether that SNES was a PAL or NTSC SNES. If it is NTSC, then it should work fine.

>> No.2774534

>>2774482
Maybe if it's American it should run too hot. If it's European or Australian you'll blow up the console.

>> No.2774548

>>2774348

just stfu already you overly sensitive faggot. this thread isn't about you nor the person whom, god forbid, hath offended thou...

>> No.2774557

>>2774348

this dude needs someone to explain to him why a 23 year old can of campbell's soup probably shouldn't be eaten... "b-b-but i need PROOF showing me that this isn't good for consumption!". like someone already told you... get a damn life.

>> No.2774568

I've had replacement batteries in SNES carts not even last 5 years. Is this motherfucker asking about CR2032 battery lifespan for real or just trolling? If real, he is god honest retarded for even questioning this.

>> No.2774574

>>2774557
>a battery is comparable to a food product
wew

It's small battery that needs to keep a charge so it can store save files while the game isn't powered on, kind of different from something which would probably be a health hazard.

>> No.2774584 [DELETED] 

>>2774574
They both expire though. That was the point.

>> No.2774589

>>2774584
I've only ever had the save battery on one GBA cartridge expire, I have NES, SNES, GB and N64 carts all which still save like they should and haven't ever had their batteries replaced.

>> No.2774594
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>>2774568
Not that guy but oldest save battery I have is in a Legend of Zelda cart I got for Christmas in 1988 and it still holds a save. That's 27 years.

My SMW still holds a save though it has lost data before. The most reliable battery backup for Snes seems to be Square carts, my Final Fantasys, SOM, CT, etc. still hold saves very reliably (knock on wood.)

I have noticed that carts that tend to lose saves more frequently are stuff like older Enix carts (Soul Blazer, Actraiser, etc.). So I think that battery quality may be a factor in how long they last. I have also heard theories that because Nes games store less data than Snes games that the batteries would theoretically last longer (which would explain my miraculous Zelda cart).

>> No.2774597

>>2774589
And they're your personal cartridges bought from the store when they were being sold? Colour me impressed.

>> No.2774613

>>2774589
Actually, the save battery didn't even die in the GBA game I think, it was just the internal clock battery, the game would otherwise save and all like normal, events just stopped happening.

>>2774597
Yeah. I didn't even think this was unusual, I figured most save batteries should last at least to 2020 on average but I guess I'm wrong/just lucky.

>> No.2774621

>>2774613
Okay now I'm calling bullshit. There's only one battery needed for a cartridge to save and keep time. http://n64.trashfolder.org/ "doubutsu no mori" aka animal crossing has both a clock and save feature, and only needs one battery.

Explain yourself.

>> No.2774626
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The worst thing when batteries start going out in my experience is that they don't stop completely right away. You lose a save and then it works again so you think it might have been a fluke. Maybe it was that thunderstorm or maybe the contacts were dirty when you were trying to load the game. Its saving now so surely the battery isn't dead.

Then 20 hours into your game the data gets wiped again. Fuck that shit.

To be safe I usually try to replace the battery at the first sign of data loss to avoid a ton of grief further down the road.

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2774628

>>2774626
Oh my god you just made me flashback to my first pokemon silver save

Dear god why

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>>2774504
>>2774534
Thanks senpai
I actually just looked what a nip outlet looks like and its pretty similar to an NA one. Can I just use the Japanese AC adapter that comes with it to plug into my American style wall outlet and be good or nah?

>> No.2774656

>>2774621
Pokémon Ruby, for Gameboy Advance

It has a save battery, and it has a separate battery for the game's internal clock.
I misremembered, but it wasn't the save battery going dry, it was the clock battery.

The clock battery going dry is a known thing with Pokémon GBA games (meaning timed events such as lotteries, and growing berries will stop working), but the save batteries for all of them are all probably still intact.

All my games with save batteries still holds saves.

>> No.2774672

>>2774626
Jesus if a game is old just replace the battery before you start this shit isn't rocket science, its just standard maintenance.

>> No.2774673

>>2774656
Okay that clears everything up. 3rd gen pokemon games save to flash memory (as I assume animal crossing did as well actually), so that's that.

I looked into it, and it appears that the CR 1616 batteries last substantially less than the 2032 counterpart. Either way, I'm still a little surprised your NES games haven't gone yet.

>> No.2774679

>>2774672
and lose all my saved childhood memories? Nah I'd rather risk it and use that fucker til it dies in a blaze of glory so my saves can make it to Valhalla.

>> No.2774684

>>2774679
I think he meant if you bought it used.

I agree though.

>> No.2774837

>>2774679
I'd rather back up my saves. Or if I was a colossal poorfag at least supply power to the cart that I opened with a melted pen so I wouldn't loose my save when I change the battery that I remove with a pair of nail clippers and hold in place with chewing gum because I can't afford a soldering iron. P.S: I stole the battery.

>> No.2774841

only if you can afford to buy them op

faggots have been buying this thengs and selling them for rip off "collector" price

>> No.2775016

>>2774651
Just make sure the voltage isn't too high, you don't want to overheat the console.

>> No.2776001

>Is it worth it to buy a Snes or should I just emulate the games?
Not really, at least not anymore. prices are too high now. Pick up a system if you see one for under $30, and cheap games as you find them. But dont feel the need to get one just because its a snes.

>I've only ever had Sega consoles in the past, and was looking to play some Snes stuff.
You'll be disappointed.

>> No.2776016

>>2776001
I swear this is the only board with people autistic enough to rehash 20 year old console wars. Fuck off already, it was stupid then and it's borderline psychotic now.

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>>2776001
>my console is better than yours
Go back to >>>/v/ where your cancerous kind belongs.

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2777474

>mfw got a SNES for 10 bucks on the flea market

Dreams do come true, and it's not even yellowed

>> No.2777598

If you were a genesis person, snes is pretty dissapointing other than 1st party stuff. Pilotwings was the shit back in the day. Honestly, if it's over $60 I wouldn't buy one unless you are a collector.

>> No.2777610

>>2774149
>PAL has a higher resolution
except no game runs in that resolution but instead adds black borders to the top and bottom of the screen, letterboxing the game and fucking up the aspect ratio. Also 50hz is a major disadvantage. I am a eurofag and I can tell you we got fucked when it comes to video games. Shitty cables with SCART converter blocks instead of proper cables. Lots of unoptimized and unreleased games. At least we got the good looking Super Nintendo but that's it.

>> No.2777628

>>2777610
Another Yurofag here. So I'm correct in the conclusion that I'd pretty much gotta collect Murrican and Japanese versions of all old home consoles with the exception of handhelds? At least I'm covered on the CRT TV front.

>> No.2777641

>>2777628
This is getting into the technical side a bit but I'm Australian (PAL land too), and here's what I do.

To answer your question yes 50hz sucks balls and you should try and avoid it if you can. But that doesn't mean you have to import all your stuff. If you have any modding skills you can install a 50/60hz switch which will make the system output at the higher refresh rate. That way you can keep collecting PAL games (I fucking hate importing, shipping costs are an arm and a leg) but play them in 60hz.

Word of warning though, if you're using composite cables and your TV does not support PAL60 (that is, PAL colour standard running at 60hz) you'll get a black and white image. But if you're using a CRT you should consider using RGB instead (NOT a PAL or NTSC format so you'll get a colour image) and a RGB to component transcoder. Or if you have an RGB monitor get a breakout cable.

>> No.2777647

>>2772493
Yes

>> No.2777652

>>2774149
>>2774162
>>2774170
>>2777610

He's not wrong. The PAL standard is better in terms of horizontal lines of resolution and depth of colour (the PAL system can carry more colours than the NTSC system, meaning that they are more accurate).

Here's the problem though. Since like 95% of video games are made in NTSC regions of the world, they are developed with NTSC in mind first and foremost. When they get transferred over to PAL, a lot of devs get lazy and just put the game straight on without adapting it to the PAL standard. That's why you get the letterboxing and the slower gameplay, and therefore inferior game. If a game was made natively at PAL standard it would look superior to an NTSC game. Gameplay would not be affected because it would be optimised for 50hz. Some people say that 50hz flicker is worse than 60hz flicker but honestly I have both 50 and 60hz consoles and I can genuinely not see the difference.

>> No.2777658

>>2774184
Nah I'm Australian and we dont have SCART on our TVs. We got screwed worst of all haha.

>> No.2777669

>>2777641
Thanks for the advice
I've been digging about the RGB stuff and seems I got lucky on that front at least (TV has PAL60 support, SCART inputs, etc)
I'll still have to import since I live in a shittier part of Yurop where everyone is charging an arm and a leg, but it's still easier to import from another EU country than overseas

>> No.2777673

>>2777669

just get a flashcart. it'll play both types of roms.

>> No.2777697

>>2777628
I'm the guy you replied to. I only really collect PAL stuff because it's a lot easier to find and cheaper. I don't care enough to put down the extra money to get NTSC stuff. But to answer your question, yes. Japanese and American consoles and games are usually superior to the PAL version. PAL technically has some advantages over NTSC, but they're never really utilized because most games are optimised for NTSC systems first, optimizing for PAL an afterthought.

>> No.2777715

>>2777669
If you're going to be using RGB then having PAL60 support doesn't matter, since PAL or NTSC ≠ RGB. Gotta remember that PAL and NTSC are composite video carriers. RGB is completely different.

>> No.2777743

>>2777715
Well, the CRT TV has 2 SCART inputs and it says in the manual for one that it inputs RGB and the other inputs S video.
That means I'm covered, right? It's just a matter of having the right SCART cable then and doing the 60Hz mod for PAL cartridge consoles?
Seems I'd still have to import NTSC PS1 console and games tho if I want 60Hz, but on SNES it's just a matter of rerouting a single pin on a chip. Plus one more on another chip if I wanna circumvent region locking.

>> No.2777756

>>2777715

I've looked up stuff on RGB before but it all seems so daunting. They start talking about csync and all kinds of shit.

I am interested in RGB and a BVM or PVM, but not if its cable hell with all kinds of adapters and crazy trade offs.

>> No.2777758

>>2777743
Yes you only need the right SCART cable and a mod to play 60hz in RGB.

Most PS1 games (and PS2 for that matter) are actually optimised for PAL output so while you're still only playing the game at 50hz, in my opinion it doesn't matter. Effectively the same as playing the 60hz version.

With the SNES it's not rerouting a pin but rerouting a jumper on the board like the Mega Drive. Region locking on a PAL snes would only let you play Japanese games because the American carts are physically bigger.

>> No.2777761

>>2777756
It is definitely seems complicated when you get into the nitty gritty of it but if you think it through logically it's not all that complicated. You just have to learn some stuff, particularly fundementals about how CRTs work, how colour systems work, how different connectors and signal types work etc.

I'm actually in the process of making an RGB guide in Google Docs that I will post when I'm finished. It'll explain everything from start to finish about RGB but it'll be fairly long haha.

PVMs and BVMs are great :) I have three PVMs and one BVM.

>> No.2777769

>>2777761
That would be great desu anon.

I thought it was as simple as plugging your console in but i guess i was wrong

>> No.2777783

>>2777758
Yeah, I've heard people say both that they're optimized and that they aren't. I'm still on the fence about that, I'd love to start a collection of games for an old system, but with the disc ones you also gotta deal with questionable quality of old second hand discs that may be scratched up a lot and the whole shitty disc assembly in consoles themselves. I got an old fat hardmodded PS2 that works anyway, so technically, I can just get any PS1/2 game and run it on that.

Seems like starting a SNES or Mega Drive/Genesis collection would be the easiest and most fun.

>> No.2777803

>>2777758
>still only playing the game at 50hz, in my opinion it doesn't matter
This is actually true for the vast majority of PS1 games because of the terrible framerates, which means you might as well play on an LCD, so the 50Hz flicker doesn't matter. But if it's a 60fps game definitely play the NTSC version on a CRT.

>> No.2777807

Just found a SNES w/ cords and 2 controllers on craigslist for $45. If I could get a SNES and a Chinese flashcart for less than $100 that'd be pretty fuckin' sick.

The only problems are the $15 in gas it'll take me and the possibility of getting stabbed.

>> No.2777842

>>2777807
welp controllers were chewed up by a dog and the SNES was yellowed and cracked. I wouldn't care if it weren't for the controllers but together with the drive, fuck it

>> No.2777856

>>2771035
-Emulation
-100% accuracy
Choose one.

>> No.2777876

Where my NTSC niggas at? Fuck the PAL keks who try to pretend their shit doesn't suck.

>> No.2777885
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2777885

>>2777856

>> No.2777917

Anybody want to share a photo of a popular PAL SNES game and post a picture of it? I'll put up a photo of the same game running at NTSC, because I want to see what the colour difference really is. Use a phone or whatever.

>> No.2777926

>>2777917
Literally won't be any difference if the game was made in an NTSC region. And even if it was made in a PAL region I'd doubt there'd be any great visible difference.

I'm not even sure how many games are PAL then ported to NTSC. Maybe some of the Rare games?

>> No.2777929

>>2777856
Some people are fine with that, no need to bite heads off.

>>2777876
I dunno, the SNES looks kinda doofy compared to the SFC. also
>purple

>> No.2777930

>>2777929
Agreed. US SNES looks like shit.

>> No.2777932

>>2777856
bsnes is cycle accurate

>> No.2777935

>>2777930
It looks better with Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG, or FFVI in it.

>> No.2777938

>>2777935
Funny. As if modding doesn't exist.

>> No.2777942

>>2777938
We also have end labels on our cartridges, can't forget that.

>> No.2777948

>>2777942
>Not making a custom case to display on a shelf

>Loose carts

Please try harder anon

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>>2777948
They look fine to me.

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2777960

>>2777958
>fine

>not better

I think it's time to swallow your pride

>> No.2777969

It's a tricky situation this. They have these 3 slot deals that allow you to play nes snes and Genesis games. They're pretty cool. Or you could just get an OG Xbox and mod the fuck out of it.

>> No.2777970

>>2777960
That looks very nice, but I'd rather get a specially built wooden drawer for my SNES carts, I'm planning to get one some day.

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2777975

>>2777970
Eh, different strokes. The real draw with these cases is that it allows you to display most, if not all of your consoles in one uniform manner.

And you don't need custom shelving. >>>/diy/ maybe?

>> No.2777985

>>2777935
My modded PAL 1chip SNES looks best with an everdrive in it.

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2777992

>>2777985

>> No.2777994

>>2777985
Being a Canada-fag, I don't even think model 1 1-chips had a release here. If you're talking about a modded SNES Jr. , then I have one of those. I prefer the look of the standard model 1s though, I find the SNES Jr. to be overly bright.

>> No.2778006

>>2777994
We got 1chip PAL consoles here in Australia. Not talking about the Jr.

>> No.2778009

>>2778006
Interesting. I love the model 1 purple button design, it's classic to me.

>> No.2778128

>>2777960

i couldn't do this just because some snes games just aren't worthy of a plastic casing... pit fighter, ncaa basketball, ballz, etc.

>> No.2778180

>>2778128
So don't, then.

Moreover, why do you still own games you don't even like? Lot sales?

>> No.2778214

>>2778180

collectors simply collect. be it good or bad.

show-offs show off.

>> No.2778219

>>2778214
So... Why are you collecting them if you don't like them? For sake of completeness?

That was something I never got. Like, someone will always have a larger collection than you, so why not just collect what you actually care about?

>> No.2778229

>>2778219

'cause shit is a dollar sometimes and you don't know it's bad until you play it.

>> No.2778237

>>2778229
It's not the 90's any more, though. You can make an informed decision on the spot with smartphones nowadays.

Personally however, cheap impulse buys are slightly different in this case. If you don't care enough to see how good it plays because it's so cheap, I get that.

However, I'd sell it back after finding out it's not so great. That's just me though.

>> No.2778245

>>2778237

i'd personally rather form my own opinion on something then rely on the internet for more than to figure out what genre a game is... so no smartphone googling for me ever. i still do this shit the old fashioned way.

>> No.2778253

>>2778245
When I said "google" I didn't mean "read a review from a 3rd party"; I meant googling a wiki page or gameplay footage. Thus forming your own opinion.

But if you care too much about relinquishing the chip on your shoulder, I can't change how you buy stuff.

Enjoy your ill-informed purchases, dude.

>> No.2778254

>>2777658
>Nah I'm Australian and we dont have SCART on our TVs. We got screwed worst of all haha.

If you live in Australia, having no SCART input on your TVs is the least worst screw up you have to face on a daily basis.

>> No.2778259

>>2778253

so now I'M the one with a chip on his shoulder? what's your point here any way? i didn't mean to offend when i said i couldn't bother with the plastic cases. sorry to offend your anal autistic sensibilities. jesus

>> No.2778265

>>2778254
IKR?
It's hard living in one of the most beautiful countries on earth. With all our gorgeous women and fine beaches and sunshine.

>> No.2778272

>>2778259
I suppose you could say we both do, but that's besides the point. You could have at least tried to follow the conversation back to it's starting point, but since you can't seem to be bothered...

>Some people don't mind emulating
>The NTSC SNES looks silly to me, compared to the SFC
>Modding
>Cases

Aaand we're all caught up. _I'm_ sorry that my personal standards offended you.

>> No.2778285

>>2778272
>besides the point
It's beside the point fellow anon. Please don't butcher the English language.

>> No.2778290

>>2778285
I literally don't care.

>> No.2778295

>>2771017
>Hey guys. Can you tell me what my opinion should be? Thinking is hard.

Come on, man.

Emulate first. If you like what you see, do research on how much the titles you liked are going for these days. If the enjoyment you derived is equal to the asking price, buy the hell out of it!

Personally, I think both SNES and Genesis are worth owning. Both had their own ups and downs.

>> No.2778351

>>2771059

>implying he's american

>> No.2778371

>>2777876
>keks
Fuck off.

>> No.2778470

simply boos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO5JZ1nfXP0

>> No.2778510

SNES has maybe like five games worth owning. Don't worry about it, just emulate them.

>> No.2778651

>>2778351

You're late. That part was already covered. Please read on...

>> No.2778654

>>2778510

Your mom's only good for about 5 games as well. REKT

>> No.2778803

>>2774149
Better resolution that goes completely unused on virtually everything but the small percentage of euro games that the devs bothered to make use of it in. Enjoy your fucked up aspect ratios, squashing everything and leaving you with ugly black borders. And flicker inducted eye cancer from the lower refresh. And slower games. And pretending anybody bothered to optimise (inb4). Being in a PAL territory was shit.

There's a reason people who knew the first thing about vidya imported and modded even back in the day. Even official mags used to cover the 'grey import' scene.

Fact #1: If you aren't taking the best of both worlds and playing 60hz over RGB SCART you're a peasant.

Fact #2: If your wasting your money buying PAL shit when you have any other option you're collecting actual garbage. Enjoy your trash pile.

>> No.2779229

>>2778654
Don't be a fanboy, dude.

>> No.2779236

>>2778803
Wait. 2 doesn't make sense when 1 is considered. If you have a modded console why would you need to import Jap games? The PAL games, because they weren't optimised are exactly the same as NTSC games. If your console is modded to run at 60hz then getting PAL games is perfectly acceptable. It's totally unnecessary for someone in a PAL region to import American games unless they were exclusive, but then they'd have to widen their cartridge slot, which would be a waste of time and effort.

>> No.2779276

>>2778510
No no. You're telling it wrong.
"N64 only has about 5 good games."
That's how the joke is supposed to go.

>> No.2779285

>>2779276
N64 has more good games than the Snes. Snes has Super Metroid, Mega Man X, Castlevania IV, A Link to the Past, and... Well I can only think of four, and even LttP isn't that good.

>> No.2779293

>>2779285

your lack of knowledge regarding the SNES catalog doesn't make it a crappy system. N64 actually blows despite being the later model. you're seriously talking out your ass here, anon.

>> No.2779298

>>2779293
So what are some good Snes games, then? Exclude all RPGs and kiddy platformers. By kiddy platformer I mean easy, colourful, handholding shit like Mario and Donkey Kong. Only include exclusives, too.

>> No.2779319

>>2779298
Super Star Wars was pretty good.

>> No.2779326

>>2771017
Emulate, especially if it's RPGs you're interested in. Most of the system's library has battery saving.

>> No.2779357

>>2779298
What are good N64 exclusives disregarding all RPGs and kiddy platformers

and why would you exclude either

>> No.2779361

>>2779298
You can't ask about good games a system has then exclude certain categories, stop being a stupid fuck.

>> No.2779363

>>2779298

if you don't want "kiddy platformers" as you call them, then just stay the hell away from the Nintendo brand. are you not familiar with their catalog? seriously...

>> No.2779364

>>2779298
So what are some good N64 games, then? Exclude all shooters and kiddy platformers. Only include exclusives too.

>> No.2779371

>>2779285
>N64 has more good games than the Snes

Nice memed

No, seriously, congrats.

Did anyone here believe/agree with this guy?

You got me to reply. That's how triggered I am. And I am a fucking 90s kid.

08/10

>> No.2779372

>>2779298

So what are some good M64 games then? Exclude all RPGs... ops. Exclude all kiddy platformers then. Oh wait, that eliminates the entirety of the N64 library.

Well, good luck.

>> No.2779375

>>2779357
RPGs and platformers are shit.
>>2779364
Castlevania, F-Zero X, Majora's Mask, Body Harvest, Resident Evil 2, Pilotwings, Wave Race, WCW/nWo Revenge, Robotron.

>> No.2779382

>>2779298
>Only include exclusives, too.

It doesn't really have anything if you want to meet that criteria, due to Nintendo and Square re-releasing everything on every goddamn platform.

The Dragon Ball Z games do come to mind - I don't think those were ever re-released, and some of them are pretty fucking good. Hyper Dimension was incredibly tight, and that card based RPG was fun as well (even if the random fights were incredibly retarded, you couldn't walk 3 tiles before the next fight).

>> No.2779385

>>2779375

Not even 10 games and you problably reached your limit, huh?

>> No.2779386

>>2779372
Jet Force Gemini, Perfect Dark, Buck Bumble, Mischief Makers, Tetrisphere, 1080 Snowboarding, Blast Corps, Space Station Silicon Valley, F-1 Grand Prix, Shadowman, Forsaken, Gauntlet Legends, War Gods, Goldeneye, WWF No Mercy and Wrestlemania 2000.

>> No.2779389

>>2779319
>Super Star Wars was pretty good.

Available on PS4 and Wii.

>> No.2779392

>>2779375
Nice. So

>2 games that aren't exclusive
>1 platformer that's mediocre and inferior to it's SNES counterpart
>1 racing game that's about as mediocre as it's SNES counterpart
>Body Harvest
>Wave Race

so there's 2 games in there that could be considered great, a few mediocre ones, and terrible ones.

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>>2779389
l m a o

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>>2779375
>>2779386

>>2779375
>>2779386

Now that's better. Although I would exclude all shitty sports games and all the racers that look all the same to me. So that still leaves less than a dozen games for the N64.

Still, how can you such a fanboy for the N64 but for some reason disregard the godly SNES?

There's good variety in there. Excluding RPGs is your loss. There are also some GREAT platformers in there.

Some of your recs I didn't even know, might try some.

>> No.2779401

>>2779392
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/
>>2779397
I like racing and sports games, and the sports and racing games on the N64 are some of the best.

I hate story driven games, so RPGs are awful to me. You go through repetitive combat sequences and move around a map to advance some narrative I have no interest in.

>> No.2779414

>>2779298
Excuse me, but why can't we cite platformers and RPGs?

>> No.2779420

>>2779414
They're shit. You can use good platformers, like Castlevania and Mega Man, just not the gay, easy kid shit like Mario and Donkey Kong.

>> No.2779423

>>2779401
>platformers and rpgs are shit
http://pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/

>> No.2779426

>>2779423
You're trying to tell me games I'll like for the Snes, I'm not going to like piss easy platformers with no good weapons and gay story games.

>> No.2779432

>>2779426
Wow ur one fuckin retarded individual my friend xD

>> No.2779434

>>2779432
Go back to reddit.

>> No.2779435

>>2779434
Well you just called rpgs "gay story games" so if anyone's going back to reddit I hope it's you

>> No.2779442

>>2779435
Reddit likes gay story games, kid.

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>>2779442
you're fucking delusional. You linked my opinions to a website and I linked your opinions to the same website, and you're trying to justify it. Fuck yourself and grow up. I'm not younger than any retard that thinks the N64 has a better selection than the SNES

>> No.2779486

>>2779462
N64 has a better selection for me. You just obviously can't handle different opinions. You're trying to state your opinion as fact, while I'm only stating my opinion. I'm obviously not going to like the Snes, it has no games I like. You clearly don't like sport, shooters and racing games, so you won't like the N64.

>> No.2779997

>>2779486
>Platformers and RPGS are shit
>You're stating your opinion as fact but I'm not

Get real buddy

>> No.2780001

>>2779486
And if you got that he didn't like shooters from that... lol

>> No.2780029

>>2779997
It is my opinion that kiddy platformers and RPGs are shit, that's exactly what I stated. Are you stupid?