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Anonymous Tue Oct 27 17:39:50 2015 No.2763586 [Reply] [Original]

What does /vr/ think of the SG-1000? I love it. Lots of fun games such as Star Jacker and Bomb Jack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 17:44:21 2015 No.2763592 >>2763586 HERO is a ton of fun. I go back to it every now and then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 17:45:42 2015 No.2763594 Why would you play any other Bomb Jack version than the GB? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssvZolPmmu0

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 17:48:06 2015 No.2763597 >>2763586 Never even seen one in person. I'd kinda like to try playing Flicky, but the machine is stupid expensive now. Oh well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:12:17 2015 No.2763651 >Colecovision with a different controller

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:14:05 2015 No.2763654 I'm not a beaner or a Japanese. Haven't played on one ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:30:03 2015 No.2763680 >Only has like 20 games. >Almost all arcade ports. >Every non-shit game can be played on the far superior Master System. Why bother?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 18:56:55 2015 No.2763728 >>2763680 It's just fun to see what sega did before the genesis/master system age

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:04:52 2015 No.2763739 >>2763728 Yeah, but you can play all its good games flawlessly on a Master System. The system itself is useless even if you like it's games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:10:02 2015 No.2763746 >>2763739 You might as well say the same thing about the original PlayStation and the GameCube.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 27 19:14:34 2015 No.2763751 >>2763746 In regards to the GameCube, the Wii doesn't play them perfectly. As for the PS1...yeah? It's only really good for sentimentality.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 05:13:39 2015 No.2764548 >>2763751 >the Wii doesn't play them perfectly. It doesnt?

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:08:27 2015 No.2764753

>>2764548
Not him, but the Wii has shittier video output than the GC (on component anyway) and the PS2 has compatibility issues with certain games.

At any rate, I would imagine that there some SG-1000 games that are incompatible with the Mark III/Master System, since they made use of the keyboard peripheral which required the expansion port.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:15:59 2015 No.2764757 >>2763651 This. Just get a ColecoVision fucking weebs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:42:32 2015 No.2764775 >>2764757 you can use the same carts?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:48:12 2015 No.2764781 >>2764775 >>2764757 I meant the chipset is the same, however there are a number of hardware differences so Colecovision games would have to be reprogrammed for the SG-1000 and vice versa.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:50:13 2015 No.2764784 >>2764781 Well, then it's not the same. By that logic almost all then computers or consoles were the same since many used some sort of z80 or other similar or identical chips.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 10:55:37 2015 No.2764786

I actually did a conversion of an SG-1000 game to the Colecovision. They're the same in that they both use a Z80+TMS 9918/19 chipset, but the controllers are completely different as well as the memory map. The biggest headache was redoing the interrupt structure in the game because the Colecovision's interrupt handling is a lot different and more of a headache than the SMS.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:13:49 2015 No.2764812 >>2764786 You did it officially as a job, or as hobby/fanproject? Would be interesting to know.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:18:25 2015 No.2764813

>>2764786
Was it Wonder Boy? Because that's a cool one that had been an SG-1000 exclusive

>>2764775
The graphics and sound are identical. The ColecoVision is cheaper first and foremost and it has way more exclusives - and many SG-1000 exclusives have been converted. The Colecovision also has way more buttons for potentially deeper, more complex games which even if they did exist for sg-1000 would be in Japanese.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:19:36 2015 No.2764816

>>2764812
The latter. I had a fully documented disassembly of the game, but trying to modify the interrupts for the Colecovision was a bitch and a half. Mainly because the NMI is tripped by the 9918 on the Colecovision while it's not on the SG-1000. The latter's interrupt handling is a lot simpler and less timing-sensitive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:20:56 2015 No.2764817 >>2764813 There's only a couple of SG-1000 games like Girl's Garden that are worth bothering with and I believe they've all been converted for the Colecovision.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:23:17 2015 No.2764819

>>2764816
Nice job. Sounds interesting to do. Also had something similar in mind for some other consoles. But there it's even more harder snce too much is different and gave up at some point. Might try this with Coleco<>SG too just for fun. Sure will still be hard and a pain, but as it sounds way more realistic than a conversion from somewhere else.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:24:05 2015 No.2764821 File: 19 KB, 637x525, flick.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2763597 you can easily emulate the games, any emulator that can handle master system games can play them. I recommend Fusion.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:24:17 2015 No.2764823 >>2764786 Also any Colecovision game that uses the controller keypad couldn't be converted for the SG-1000 unless you had the latter's keyboard add-on and set things up to use that.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:26:36 2015 No.2764827

>>2764813
>The Colecovision also has way more buttons for potentially deeper, more complex games which even if they did exist for sg-1000 would be in Japanese

Like I said, the SG-1000 did have a keyboard add-on in Japan, although it wasn't released in PAL regions. So that's actually one better. An entire keyboard versus a little dinky keypad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:26:57 2015 No.2764828 >>2764819 NES->TG16 is another popular porting project and then after you've ported the code you can go back and enhance too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:29:40 2015 No.2764832 >>2764828 Probably because the TG-16 uses a 6502 variant, although the two consoles are otherwise completely different.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:30:03 2015 No.2764835 >>2764828 I've kept up with the homebrew scene for a while and I have never seen what you claim, about it being popular to port NES games to the TG16.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:47:50 2015 No.2764860

>>2764835
https://pcedev.wordpress.com/nes2pce/
Happy to expand your encyclopedic knowledge on the subject then.

>>2764832
It definitely seems to be a step up in challenge but if you're the guy who already ported SG-1000 to Coleco you might find it worth checking out. Personally I'd rather see the SG-1000 exclusives made available for Coleco more since I'm more likely to get a Coleco flash cart than a Master System one as I already have a Megadrive one.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 11:55:25 2015 No.2764870

When porting also please release source and docs. Really helpful for people to learn and get started instead completly starting from zero again. Also it's not like anyone will make money of this. So not really a reason to keep it himself. Really a big problem in homebrew and similar scene, that people always never release code or knowhow. :(

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:12:42 2015 No.2764897

>>2764821
Most of the charm of really old games is in the shitty TV setup and quirky controller.

I can play shittily made flash games online and get the same effect as emulating a Pre megadrive era game. Not the same.

That being said, since I won't be getting this console any time soon, I'll probably end up emulating it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:22:24 2015 No.2764915 >>2764860 >Personally I'd rather see the SG-1000 exclusives made available for Coleco more The console had less than 100 games and the ones that are actually decent and worth playing have all been converted by now.

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:39:51 2015 No.2764934
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>but muh keyboard expansion
there was also a microcomputer release of the platform, dinguses

the sg1000 ii, mark3 and jap sms are also legitimate ways to play, however the latter 2 have a darker palette because its improvised from 6bit rgb

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:43:35 2015 No.2764943 File: 16 KB, 480x360, hqdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like it just because my waifu avertised it

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 12:56:00 2015 No.2764962 >>2764915 Is that confirmed true? You've personally checkedall 80 some games and/or successfully asked 2ch?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:43:18 2015 No.2765135 >>2764934 The Japanese SMS didn't have the expansion port, doofus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 14:46:02 2015 No.2765140 >>2763728 they did quality arcade games. let's just forget these shitty consoles.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:00:44 2015 No.2765260 >>2763651 It actually has more in common with the first MSX.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:58:34 2015 No.2765346 >>2764897 >insults me for using suggesting emulation >ends the post saying they will probably use emulation anymore masterful troll, it even almost got me to give you a serious response.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 16:59:35 2015 No.2765348 >>2765346 >anymore anyhow*

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:40:24 2015 No.2765404 Sega fags should read this: http://segabits.com/blog/2015/09/23/history-sega-japan-rd-part-1-origins-80s/

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 28 17:46:16 2015 No.2765410 >>2765260 ...how ya figure?

Anonymous Wed Oct 28 19:50:07 2015 No.2765579

i like the system

The best games are

>Monaco GP
>SEGA Pitfall II (pretty different from the original)
>Gulkave
>Star Jacker
>Drol
>Girl's Garden
>Wonder Boy (the only re-released SG-1000 game)

GP World has a track editor
Safari Race is similar to Outrun
Dragon Wang has an impossible final boss

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 30 14:11:45 2015 No.2768656 File: 40 KB, 640x480, a18657.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2763651 That controller gives me painful memories Of my 7800 joystick. No, really...the 7800 Pro-Stick was physically painful to use for extended periods.

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