/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2754545]

Whose death was more shocking?

[Anonymous No.2754547]

>>2754545
Nice spoilers dude

[Anonymous No.2754549]

>>2754547
These are 23 and 18 year-old games respectively. Come the fuck on. BTW Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father as long as we're dropping stunning new bombshells here.

[Anonymous No.2754550]

Snape killed Dumbledore

[Anonymous No.2754556]

>>2754549
Titanic sinks.

[Anonymous No.2754558]

>not Alys

[Anonymous No.2754565]

Shadow's if you're not prepared for it.

[Anonymous No.2754581]

>>2754549

That's not true, that's impossible!

[Anonymous No.2754604]

Who are they

[Anonymous No.2754624]

>>2754550
>tfw Harry Potter books can be considered retro
thanks...

[Anonymous No.2754650]

Post your reaction to Jon Snow dying.

[Anonymous No.2754654]

SPOILER ALELT

Mister X is Xander Payne[/soiler]

SPOILER ALELT

[Anonymous No.2754658]

SPOILER ALELT

Mister X is Xander Payne

SPOILER ALELT

[Anonymous No.2754664]

>>2754545
Galufs of course, but the only death that actually made my cry was syldras death...

[Anonymous No.2754669]

Galuf, easily.

Him being replaced by Krile pretty much ruined my first playthrough.

[Anonymous No.2754732]

Aerith's has all the audio/visual elements going on (sappy sad music, dramatic FMV, etc.), but Galuf went down like a fucking man, and unlike in FFVII, they actually tried everything in their power to save him, to no avail.

I will say though, Yuffie's reaction was sadder than Aerith's death itself. Never knew about it until very recently since I never use her.

[Anonymous No.2754736]

>>2754545
nei

[Anonymous No.2754740]

>>2754545
>Welcome to /vr/. How contrarian are ya?

[Anonymous No.2754791]

>tfw Ex-death threw a Vaccum Wave, Flare, Holy and Meteor and Galuf still managed to drive him off.

[Anonymous No.2755098]

I think Aerith's was heavily foreshadowed so I'll go with Galuf.

[Anonymous No.2755125]

>>2754664
I was glad when Syldra became a summon spirit for the party to abuse.
>>2754545
Galuf for sure.

[Anonymous No.2755134]

>>2754740
>My favorite Final Fantasy is II
>N64 is better than PS1
>Saturn is better than Dreamcast
>Megaman X4 5 6 are better than X1 2 and 3

[Anonymous No.2755137]

>>2755098
>I think Aerith's was heavily foreshadowed

Not in a good way though.

[Anonymous No.2755139]

>>2754732
>I will say though, Yuffie's reaction was sadder than Aerith's death itself. Never knew about it until very recently since I never use her.

Ive never not used Yuffie

[Anonymous No.2755156]

>>2754549
ermagherd. He tried to bone his sister!

[Anonymous No.2755183]

>>2754545
Aerith's.
Galuf's death was AWESOME.

[Anonymous No.2755241]

>>2755134
Best Zelda

Zelda II of course

Best Mario

Without a doubt, SMB2JP

Best castlevania

Tie between Bloodline and chronicle

[Anonymous No.2755245]

Galuf just died like a bitch and was replace like 2 minute later, who care, FF5 character had no personality

[Anonymous No.2755250]

>>2755245
>Galuf just died like a bitch

>fights despite 0 HP
>dies a hero
>meanwhile Airshit dies like a bitch from a single sword poke

[Anonymous No.2755252]

>>2755125
same here

[Anonymous No.2755283]

>>2755137
How, exactly?

>>2755245
Wow, rude much.

[Anonymous No.2755327]

>>2754740
Perfectly sums this place up. Underrated post.

[Anonymous No.2755340]

>>2754545
Galuf. Aeris' pissed me off more than anything because I spent a while grinding to get her limit breaks.

[Anonymous No.2755529]

>>2755134
>My favorite Final Fantasy is XI
>Neo Geo is better than PS1 and Saturn
>Dreamcast was never good and only had a handful of decent games that would have been better on other hardware
>Megaman Legends is the best Megaman

[Anonymous No.2755557]

>>2755134
>Megaman X4 5 6 are better than X1 2 and 3

But this is correct. The only reason it seems contrarian is because /vr/ has their heads too far up Nintendo's ass to acknowledge that certain series did indeed do better on other consoles.

[Anonymous No.2755606]

>>2755557
X1 is still the pinnacle of the franchise nigga, X5 and especially X6 were godawful.

[Anonymous No.2755664]

>>2755529
>Neo Geo is better than PS1 and Saturn
I think this but it's only because I play fighting games mostly.

[Anonymous No.2755841]

Aeris' had the emotion, scene, music and such.
Until you realize (or had realized) she basically got killed the way she did because she's an idiot.

Galuf was a do or die final stand that was awesome.

[Anonymous No.2755949]

>>2755841
To be fair, if Sephiroth didn't kill her, Cloud was going to.

[Anonymous No.2756069]

AERIES DIES!!???

Fuck thanks for RUINING the game form e ASSHOLE

[Anonymous No.2756071]

John DOESN'T die at the end

[Anonymous No.2756149]

Aeris probably comes as a bigger shock, if it hasn't been spoiled for you. Galuf's death scene is better though. Standing up to and repelling Exdeath by himself, refusing to drop long after hitting 0 HP, then the party trying all their spells and items to bring him back. I don't even remember what events surrounded Aeris' death.

[Anonymous No.2756197]

>>2755283
>How, exactly?

You ever watch an episode of Star Trek where a normally background or tertiary character suddenly starts getting way more screen time and attention?

It was basically that. Because the party was split up so damn often and Aerith may not always be a part of it the way they had to shoehorn a lot of character moments all at once was a dead giveaway that something was gonna go down in a big way, very soon. It wasn't so much foreshadowed as it was telegraphed a mile a way.

I don't have a picture of aerith. Here's yuffie sneaking around in a box

[Anonymous No.2756207]

>>2756149
>I don't even remember what events surrounded Aeris' death.

That literally was the event. That whole event was just to kill her off. She didn't die as an organic part of the story, the story had to hit a detour to kill her off

[Anonymous No.2756210]

Play shitloads of RPGs before FFVII came out:
>pretty much everyone died or "died" in FFII(IV)
>Crono the main character of his own game dies Chrono Trigger
>Gremio dies in Suikoden
>etc

>play FFVII
>don't give a fuck about Aeris' death because it definitely wasn't the first time party member was killed off despite the people who found the FF series (and often RPGs as a genre) with FFVII say
>to add to this Aeris' death was foreshadowed and Aeris herself wasn't that hot or interesting character from my point of view

>play FFV after finding out about the "lost" FF games

While Galuf's death didn't come as a huge shock because I was already used to the fact party members could die in RPGs way before FFVII and Aeris I will say this: Not only his death made sense (motherfucker fought Exdeath taking shitload of damage after being at 0 hp) making it clear in all possible ways he took mortal damage. Also I like how the FFV cast ACTUALLY TRIED USING PHOENIX DOWNS AND CURATIVE MAGIC ON HIM (unlike the FFVII's cast with Aeris) even if it was clearly a moot effort.

If I had to pick between the shock value between Aeris' and Galuf death neither shocked me at all but one of them died a heroic death while the other was basically waiting for her death doing absolute nothing so the shitty plot device from her death could take place. IMO the one that makes more sense was "better" death.

[Anonymous No.2756483]

>>2754549
That's completely irrelevant you piece of shit. There will still be people who won't have played those games or watched that movie.

[Anonymous No.2756525]

>>2756483
Oh, and Rosebud was the sled.

[Anonymous No.2756551]

>>2756483
we can't talk about something for fear of spoilers! illimitable free information and access to it exists but we can't talk about something for fear that a small margin of people either have never played it during its time or were too young to have played it. let's narrow the scope of conversation to cater to them. if anything ffvii is so well known and it's spoiler (aeris' death) that i didn't even play the game as a kid and knew at the time. because self censure is not always the most paramount of concerns. especially considering it makes talking about something go from being normal conversation to having to have an elephant in the room to make someone else free to enjoy something spoiler free.
>>2754545
galuf, i gave a damn about him.
>>2754740
i like the metroid series from best to worst
in release order. i think the saga games are better than final fantasy. link's awakening is better than alttp. wario>mario. pokemon g/s > r/b/y. sotn is overrated for the hype the inverted castle gets. flashcarts are a better investment/value than collections for playability/cost.

[Anonymous No.2756568]

>>2754581
nope just unlikely, like all of the galaxies most important events revolving around 1 family and their group of immediate friends/acquaintances/enemies.
>>2755245
4/10 slightly irritated. Going out like a bitch would be laying down and taking it or getting jobbed. i'm not sure you're familiar with what you said means, as a combination of words used to derive meaning as a whole.
>>2755606
so that's what 1 out of 3 for both consoles.

[Anonymous No.2756840]

>>2756483
Ladies

[Anonymous No.2757463]

>>2756568
That's what the expanded universe is f-NOT CANON
... ohhhhh

[Anonymous No.2757491]

>>2754545
More shocking? Aerith's, as it does really come out of nowhere and takes first time players by surprise. However, I got never got nearly as emotional at her death as I did at Galuf's. Aerith was killed in the beginning, and to be honest we never really had that many moments where she grew on us. There was her scenes with Cloud in the slums and the scenes with her at the canyon, but it always felt like we barely knew Aerith as a character and when we did, she was either talking about plot or being talked about. Even after her death the characters didn't seem all that effected, Cloud dumped her body in the lifestream and everyone went on with their lives, it wasn't until towards the end when they learned of Holy that she became really relevant again.

Galuf however, had a huge impact on both the player and the characters. Galuf's death was less shocking because there was a bit of(excellent) build-up to it with the ExDeath fight, but the emotions of the characters, I think, left a much bigger impact. Galuf had been a party member through 65% of the game, you knew who Galuf was and you knew what his character was as well. And when he died, they legitimately tried everything they could to bring him back, their sadness reflected your sadness and vice versa, you knew they truly cared for him, and because his jobs and experience carried over it never felt like he was truly irrelevant, instead that he(like many of the deceased in real life) lived on through his friends and family. And even at the end, he still directly affected the outcome of the game and aided the heroes.

[Anonymous No.2757507]

>>2754545
Galufs death wasn't shocking, but incredibly heroic.

Aeris's death wasn't shocking, it was downright pathetic. Stupid bitch ran off on her own, you spend a ton of time looking for her, and then she gets stabbed in a cutscene while the villain does his best Dick Dastardly moustache curl and exits, stage left. She was an unlikable cunt during the game and got what she deserved.

[Anonymous No.2757513]

>>2754556
>Titanic sinks.

Julius Caesar gets murdered by Brutus & his posse.

[Anonymous No.2757528]

>>2757513

Archduke Ferdinand dies

[Anonymous No.2757535]

>>2757491

regrettably his granddaughter didn't really fit the image of Wizard Monk I spent a whole game building to that point

[Anonymous No.2757748]

>>2757535
I think the biggest travesty in the game is that Krille basically doesn't fill any of the roles well that Galuf did, which is nonsensical since she gains all his skills.

[Anonymous No.2757772]

>>2756551
Shut the fuck up dude you're not funny, you're not clever, and you're especially cute.

[Anonymous No.2757813]

What was more shocking? Aerith or Crono?

I was not expecting a protag to die in an RPG. Made playing the party more interesting and I kinda thought you HAD to resurrect him during my first playthrough, and then I learned you didn't. That's player choice. That's quality.

That's Chrono Trigger

[Anonymous No.2757954]

>All these people ITT calling her Aerith

[Anonymous No.2757968]

>>2757954
why couldn't they just give her a normal name like Alice?

[Anonymous No.2757991]

>>2754545
Too many people overlook the fact that Aeris' death was meant to be a departure from the series staple of a heroic death of a character and make her passing a tragic and shocking occurrence as she wasn't a warrior fighting her last breath but instead a defenseless maiden and the main heroine at that.

[Anonymous No.2758371]

>>2757968

Same reason they didn't call terra Tina

>>2757991

I get all that. Thing is, it didn't work. And they saintifed her so much later on that it really ran counter to the whole point

[Anonymous No.2758502]

>>2754545
I just started playing FF5 this week, you fucking faggot.

Not everyone has played every 40+ hour game out there, a heads up would have been nice.

[Anonymous No.2758505]

>>2754549
Oh, okay. So following that logic, you'd have absolutely no problem with me spoiling any game eligible for discussion on this board, correct?

[Anonymous No.2758549]

>>2758502

The world isn't gonna wait for you to play catch up.

>>2758505

everything that can be discussed here is at least 10 years old. It's by default not a hang out for people who fear spoilers. Go nuts

[Anonymous No.2758561]

>>2758549

>hurr durr life's tough so i'm gonna spoil video games durr

I'm not asking you to suck my dick while bending over backwards to accommodate me or other users. This is not something extremely difficult or rare on the internet.

It would just be less of an asshole move to MARK spoilers or just discuss them INSIDE the actual thread INSTEAD of posting them in the OP.

[Anonymous No.2758564]

>>2758561
I've never touched an FF game and I know the major spoilers of every single one.

There is no excuse for you to not know.

[Anonymous No.2758569]

>>2758564
>spoiler olympics

Yeah, cool, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.2758584]

>>2758561
>I'm not asking you to suck my dick while bending over backwards to accommodate me or other users. This is not something extremely difficult or rare on the internet.

You know what else isn't difficult? Staying off a board where in all likelihood everyone has played the old major releases and will be tossing around spoilers like Zeus tosses around electric bull semen

These aren't even obscure games. So fuck off till you're ready to knuckle down or throw caution to the wind.

[Anonymous No.2758593]

>>2758584
>"Stay off an entire board because I'm unable to provide the bare minimum of self-control and common courtesy to not spoil a 40 game in the fucking OP"

Just admit you're an obnoxious dickhead who doesn't give a shit and leave it at that.

[Anonymous No.2758594]

>>2758564
And you don't find that a problem at all? Why should someone born years later be spoiled? God you're all so freaking rude sometimes.

[Anonymous No.2758595]

>>2758594
>Why should someone born years later be spoiled?

why would someone born years latter go on a board where people know the old shit inside out and will be talking loudly about it.

>God you're all so freaking rude sometimes.

no, you're just being stupid. You lack common sense. You're dumb. A simpleton. A maroon. a yutz etc, etc.

[Anonymous No.2758597]

>>2758595
>why would someone born years latter go on a board where people know the old shit inside out and will be talking loudly about it.

Well, gee, I guess the only reasonable assumption is they come here so they can have pivotal moments of game plots spoiled for them.

Is it really that hard to use some critical thinking skills?

[Anonymous No.2758602]

>>2758597
>Well, gee, I guess the only reasonable assumption is they come here so they can have pivotal moments of game plots spoiled for them.

DON"T GO ON WEBSITES THAT TALK ABOUT OLD GAMES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED!


You're bringing it on yourself. Clearly you have nothing to add to these conversations beyond whining that the world doesn't step on egg shells for you

did someone have to tell you not to stick a fork in the light socket? Is it really so hard to understand that people are gonna talk about games regardless of whether some nobody online played them?

Really who are you that we should censure ourselves? fucking nobody that's who

[Anonymous No.2758604]

>>2758595
>no, you're just being stupid. You lack common sense. You're dumb. A simpleton. A maroon. a yutz etc, etc.


Rude!

[Anonymous No.2758613]

>>2758602
>DON"T GO ON WEBSITES THAT TALK ABOUT OLD GAMES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED!

I don't know about you, but the internet I browse often marks spoilers on forums, or at the very least takes care not to spoil things in the topic title or first post. It's obvious no one's going to say, "Oh, I'm sorry I ruined a game you just started" or at the very least admit they were wrong or haphazard with spoiling, so it's pointless.

And we'll probably have some asshole defending this shit because of "muh 4chan culture." Yeah, the same "culture" that perpetuates /v/ and /b/ maybe. I'd like to think we're all reasonable adults here (this is a retro board after all) but then again, you've proven me wrong.

>Really who are you that we should censure ourselves? fucking nobody that's who

I'm someone who has been on forums and this site for many many years. And as a user of said website, I feel I should be able to voice my opinion about blatant spoilers.Also, the word you're looking for is "censor," jackass.

[Anonymous No.2758616]

>>2758613
>I don't know about you, but the internet I browse often marks spoilers on forums

so go there.

Seriously. You're the one with the problem. You leave. The internet doesn't exist to serve you.

[Anonymous No.2758625]

You guys are fucking insane. Having a spoiler AS A THREAD PICTURE is a bit dickish but what do you expect people to talk about on a board devoted to 20 year old video games?

aeris death was more shocking souley because of FMV technology

[Anonymous No.2758627]

>>2758616
>The internet doesn't exist to serve you.
Some would argue that it does

[Anonymous No.2758646]

>>2758616
I'm going nowhere, and I reserve the right to point out bullshit when I see it.

I'm currently playing through FFV, OP was bullshit, end of story.

[Anonymous No.2758653]

>>2758646
>I'm going nowhere,

Then prepare to get spoiled.

>and I reserve the right to point out bullshit when I see it.

And we reserve the right to call out faggots when we see them.

>I'm currently playing through FFV,

You want a medal

>OP was bullshit, end of story.

cry more

[Anonymous No.2758662]

Stop feeding the caveman guys

[Anonymous No.2758727]

>>2758653

I'm currently playing through FFV, OP was bullshit, end of story.

Repost, because you didn't get it the first fucking time.

[Anonymous No.2758734]

>>2758625
>Having a spoiler AS A THREAD PICTURE is a bit dickish

Uh yes, just a little. Glad someone else thinks so. It's bordering on bait/trolling to be quite honest.

>what do you expect people to talk about on a board devoted to 20 year old video games?

Lots of things. Collecting them, the hardware, different genres, accessories, the industry at the time, soundtracks. And yes, I do expect people to talk about the story in said games, but making a thread like this is just shitty.

It's shitty for discussion for people who have played the games, it's shitty for spoiling people who haven't, and it's shitty for anyone who expects any sort of loose form of a community on this god damn board.

Is ANY of this getting through? At all?

[Anonymous No.2758754]

>>2758734
>Uh
You are crazy, irrational, and stupid.

[Anonymous No.2758759]

>>2758754
And you're redundant, unhelpful, and generally unimaginative with your insults.

[Anonymous No.2758770]

>>2758759
No, you are irrational. You are attacking people for talking about shit that everyone knows, and you are constantly refreshing the thread in order to fuel your addiction to anger by throwing out more and more bait.

That is irrational behavior, refusal to admit to addiction is a mental illness, and the fact that you want people to pander to you is stupid.

You are only an attention seeker. That's it. Nothing more.

Also, you typed "uh" on the internet. "Uh" is not used in written speech under any circumstances, the same way we don't unironically cough, or do ellipses when we are thinking about what we're about to say.

You are unable to behave on this board.

[Anonymous No.2758776]

>>2758734
Just came here to remind you that while you're entitled to your own opinions others are also entitled to theirs.

If you don't like what you see just don't post in this thread, 4chan isn't exactly made with the intent of having a tight knitted community, it's an image board where everyone can post whatever they want, with some obvious limits regarding certain boards, if people want to talk about plot points you don't have any right to deny them the right to and even less to say that it's shitty or meaningless, otherwise people wouldn't write essays on Anna Karenina getting ironed by a train, there wouldn't be classical composition like The Death of Ivan because they would spoil Taras Bulba and so on.

You're just being an entitled whiny bitch because people talk about what you don't like, especially regarding two extremely popular games that are over 20 years old.

And truth to be told, you people who complain about spoilers are those who can't enjoy narrative anyway, knowing that a character dies at some point is insignificant because you still don't know how, why and when he/she dies, the message or meaning behind their death still comes across and isn't spoilered nor made less important or dramatic.

Suit yourself and learn to browse 4chan if you haven't already, this place isn't made to cater to you, get out of the kitchen if things are to hot for you.

[Anonymous No.2758782]

>>2758770
I'm not irrational for suggesting someone click the little box marked spoiler before posting a thread like this. That's IT. That's ALL it would take, and we wouldn't even be discussing this.

Yet I can't even find anyone here saying that's a logical solution to this conflict. No one. Not one single person other than myself. And then we have garbage posts like yours ranting on about how I'm illogical for suggesting something like this.

I could care less about attention, I just find it unbelievable that no one would even suggest that using the spoiler tag would be a better option.

And uh, uh, uh. Get the fuck over it. You're getting pissy because I said "Uh" but not for someone who spoils a game in the OP? Get your priorities together, you mangled piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.2758809]

>>2758759
Not that guy but he's right. You're crazy, irrational,stupid, and to top it off: naive if your whining over a spoiler of a 20 year old game in an image forum dedicated to retro games.

If you didn't wan't to be spoiled on something here's a tip: Don't go on the internet.

[Anonymous No.2758917]

>>2754545
Aerith was more shocking.
Galuf was much more fun.

Kicking the shit out of Exdeath up until the very end was a hell of a way to go.

[Anonymous No.2758945]

>>2758776
So in essence, it's not about the destination, but the journey.

[Anonymous No.2758950]

>>2754545

I don't know what that thing on the left is but how was retard hair's death supposed to be shocking? The villain had her for a long time and she wasn't the love interest.

[Anonymous No.2758994]

Honest question: How was Aeris' death supposed to be that shocking? Especially for people who have already have experienced party members dying in other games before FFVII?

[Anonymous No.2759058]

Aeris tells you about it, there's nothing shocking about it at all.

[Anonymous No.2759089]

>>2757772
>and you're especially cute.
y-you too.
>>2758595
>A simpleton. A maroon. a yutz
groucho marx, is that you?

[Anonymous No.2759174]

>>2758994
Because FF7 was the first RPG to far too many people.

[Anonymous No.2759184]

>>2754549
Who cares? Lots of RPGs are just being discovered by thousands of people daily. Be mindful yo!

[Anonymous No.2761512]

>>2754547
A picture of Aerith dying is literally /vr/'s spoiler tag.

[Anonymous No.2761556]

>>2761512
Not to mention that website, aerisdies.com, which is as old as the internet itself pretty much.

[Anonymous No.2761559]

>>2761556
many of my earliest faps were spent on that website, god bless it

[Anonymous No.2761561]

>>2757954
>I'm right even though the creators contradict me

[Anonymous No.2761575]

>>2754650
Jon Snow is alive you nigger, don't scare me like that.

[Anonymous No.2761790]

>>2759174
>Because FF7 was the first RPG to far too many people.

yeah and? People don't go on near as much about Nei

[Anonymous No.2761801]

>>2755241
Fuck you Bloodlines is the best.

[Anonymous No.2762557]

Leen's death hit me harder than both. even if she got better after wards.

[Anonymous No.2762995]

>>2761561
The creators contradicted themselves. It's not my fault they gave her a better name for the North American release.

[Anonymous No.2763072]

>>2754545
pic related

[Anonymous No.2763194]

>>2754545
>Galuf dies
>Krile's sprite stares at you in battle

[Anonymous No.2763354]

>>2754740
That should be in the sticky.

[Anonymous No.2764569]

>>2754545
this one was more shocking.

[Anonymous No.2764592]

>>2754545
This was more shocking.

[Anonymous No.2764724]

>>2754558
shittttt.

that game was my first rpg man. them comic book like cutscenes.

[Anonymous No.2764725]

Both are small fry

[Anonymous No.2764923]

>>2764725
what game is that?
>you can google it
im far yoo lazy, and im in no hurry

[Anonymous No.2764942]

>>2764923
>typing all that out
>posting a reaction image
>not making two clicks to reverse image search
>not reading the name of the image

Your not too lazy, you're too dumb.

[Anonymous No.2764957]

>>2762995
Cloud and Aerith
Cloud and Earth

Fire Emblem's Marth should've been called Mars like in the OVA.

[Anonymous No.2765382]

>>2764923
> 51-Live_A_Live_00302.png

[Anonymous No.2765967]

>>2765382
>>2764942
well it sure looks like you proved your point...thank you anyway.

[Anonymous No.2766357]

>>2764592

Gonna be perfectly honest. As a kid I legit thought she was the main character