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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg4KLe58qTU

>Right off the bat CV4 is better because because
>Aw I can't have autistic power fantasies of being frozen in time in a cool pose when I get the orb

Yes, this is James and Mike mondays alright.

>I don't like the Hit Detection.
>There's something a little off about it
>It's not that fun to hit things

To be fair this is basically the same argument /vr/ makes in most CV threads when an anon wants to bash one castlevania game in favor of another.

>We've been spoiled, kek

I kinda wish SJW's reinterpreted James and Mike's SNES fanboyism as white privilege at this point.

>Cut all gameplay off for a dumb cat story.

That's more interesting than the game LOL

>It's the Rocky III of Castlevania games
>This is the point in the series where it got ridiculous.

This is what happens when you live the console war lifestyle a little too hard as a kid, readers at home.

>"Taste the sweat..." LOL GAY

Actually pretty funny.

>> No.2747013

/vr/ - Eceleb garbage

>> No.2747016

>>2747013
>BUT I LOVE ME SOME ARINO THREADS!!@!@!@

>> No.2747023

>>2747016
Who are you quoting?

>> No.2747030

I don't even know why he stopped using Angry Nintendo Nerd's name, the only thing he can do and brings at every fucking episode of anything is about how Nintendo did better than anyone and shit like that because he somehow owes to them for his childhood memories and I can't hear you lalalala.

>> No.2747036

Daily reminder that Castlevania Bloodlines is the best Castlevania game ever seen.

>> No.2747045

>>2747004
it's just their natural bias, and I can understand them because I happen to think Bloodlines is the better game, except I understand that I see it with different eyes because I grew up with it and did not play Castlevania IV because I did not have a SNES until I discovered emulation in 2002-2003.

I did grow up with an NES and I played and loved all 3 of the first castlevanias, yes even 2 (I loved the exploration)

I happen to think Castlevania Bloodlines is better than IV because the controls are less stiff, Eric Lacarde gives you a whole other character to play as with different paths, and Bloodlines in general has such awesome imagery like the fountain that turns blood red.. also look at that fucking title screen.

When I played CV4 I found it to be slower, with less diversity (only 1 character) and the gore was more toned down.

I recognize CV4 is a good game but I think Bloodlines is the best.

>> No.2747051

>>2747004
>mike matei
not retro

>> No.2747054
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2747054

>>2747045
Also

>dat music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2l7ZC8i1Ck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJsfwHObvw

>> No.2747060

>>2747023
You

>> No.2747061

i recognize one of the in game tracks from Circle of the Moon on GBA,

>> No.2747064

>>2747045
bias I can understand, but for people who have such large collections they sure have bad taste.

Wait, maybe huge collections and bad taste go hand in hand.

>> No.2747082

>>2747061

are you saying that games in the Castlevania series reuse music? what a fantastic observation, I can't believe nobody has ever noticed this before.

>> No.2747108

>>2747004

le epic james n mike mundays!!!!! :D

>> No.2747124

how in the fuck is it that these two spend so much time playing retro video games yet neither are even remotely knowledgeable on any subject relating to retro games?

I really wish Mike would just fucking die. so over the top annoying, constantly crow-baring his unfunny comments and worthless observations.

>> No.2747146

Oh, great. Fantastic, splendid!

Just what the Castlevania threads needed in order to reach the ultimate shitposting form: even MORE e-celeb opinions to fuel the already fueling shitposting and strong contrarian opinions that reign on the CV fandom.

Stop caring, /vr/.

Both IV and Bloodlines are great, stop pretending one is great and the other is shit, stop caring about e-celebs. Youtube is fucking not /vr/.

We really need a /yt/ board.

>> No.2747182

Can we please ban Youtubers off this fucking board? I mean most of the shitposting comes from emulatorfags vs hardwarefags, but it would at least help.

>> No.2747196

Bloodlines and Rondo are the two best classic Castlevanias.

Super IV is alright, but the bosses are terrible and some of the levels are tedious

>muh 8 way whip

makes the game too easy

>> No.2747202

>>2747196

nice opinion, faggot

>> No.2747259

Why would anyone take Mike or James opinions seriously? They both fucking suck at everything they play like fully blind retard tier to the point i can't even understand how you could be that bad given james apparently grew up a gamer.

>> No.2747267

>e-celeb thread

>>/v/

Please. Just go.

>> No.2747284

>>2747259
They have this weird fetish for not figuring out how to get good at most of the shit they play. It's ok for a while, but quickly gets out of hand if you have someone like James farming pipe enemies in Metroid because he couldn't figure out that Metroids themselves drop a shit ton of missiles and energy and respawn.

>> No.2747295

>>2747196
>makes the game too easy

but Bloodlines is just as easy, probably even a little easier. your opinion is invalid.

>> No.2747308

>>2747284
>and respawn.

They do?

>> No.2747318

>>2747004
what the fuck is mike doing to that controller

>> No.2747336
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2747336

>>2747004

>James & Mike Mondays on blu-ray
>there are people that will actually pay money for this

I wish a slow painful death for anyone that contributes to this faggotry.

>> No.2747358

>>2747336
he might have the guy sing the theme song in person anon?

>> No.2747364

>>2747146
>We really need a /yt/ board.
we already have /pol/

>> No.2747368

>>2747308
I think they do... Maybe they don't and it just felt that way because they respawn after going through a door and the room before mother brain's room and the vertical one before that are loaded with them to the point it goes pretty fast to kill them anyway.

What I definitely remember is that I played Metroid like a week before they did their playthrough of it and experienced that same "oh fuck, I died at Mother Brain and now I have 30 energy", except I got to thinking there was no way they'd just fuck you over like that and went down a blew up a few metroids to see how the drops were, and lo and behold they all drop a max energy ball or or a max missile drop.

I mean kudos to them that they edit their videos so I don't have to watch them drudge through every stupid part of a game. I don't expect them to know all the arcane shit you can do, like getting the Varia suit before the Space Jump using bombs, but sometimes they just assume dumb shit.

Also, hi Mike, I know you're reading this. Do more co-op shit with your girlfriend.

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>>2747004

>> No.2747407

Can you newfags from /v/ stop shitposting my thread and just discuss the fucking video?

>> No.2747412

>>2747407

can you fuck off with you LP e-celeb shit please?

>> No.2747415

>>2747004
I didn't understand this comment. Rocky III was still down to Earth and the arc with Mickey was dramatic. Rocky didn't fly off the rails until 4 when he bought some Jetsons robot to work around his house for him.

>> No.2747417

>>2747412
Unlike you /v/ we here at /vr/ LOVE e-celebs and don't take kindly to your shitposting. Now please either discuss the video in a civil manner or leave my thread. I really don't wanna have to file a report right now.

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2747419

>>2747417

Try dialing it back a little bit next time.

>> No.2747420

>>2747419
I'm serious. Stop shitposting my thread or else I will report you.

>> No.2747426

>>2747030
>I don't even know why he stopped using Angry Nintendo Nerd's name

Because he makes profit off his videos, and if he used Nintendo in the title they could sue him for making money off their name.

>> No.2747450

>>2747415
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAULIE.

>> No.2747480

>>2747450
That is still one of the most surreal scenes I've ever seen in a movie. I have no idea wtf was going on when they wrote that.

>> No.2747692

>Call yourself Angry Nintendo Nerd
>Want to make money of acting like an autist
>Rename yourself to Angry Videogame Nerd
>Literally only ever played NES/Snes.

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2747761

>>2747060
for

>> No.2747765

>>2747004
Watching this really pissed me off. I understand it's up to opinion but they came off as bashing Bloodlines as worthless.

>> No.2747768

>>2747765
ʕ ノ•̀ᴥ•́ʔノ

>> No.2747784

>Sega fags BTFO that James doesn't really care for Genesis that much

James is a CV4 absolute fanboy. You could make a Castlevania game that is literally perfect and he'd probably still prefer CV4.

Bloodlines is alright, but I understand where they're coming from. You go from multidirectional whipping in all directions to Bloodlines funky whipping. Bloodlines is -way- better with Eric and its a shame they didn't try him out.

>> No.2747807

>>2747784
ʕ ノ•̀ᴥ•́ʔノ

>> No.2747816

>>2747768
>>2747807
samefag

>> No.2747821

>>2747816
ʕ ノ•̀ᴥ•́ʔノ

>> No.2747837

I don't see why people like IV. The gameplay is slow, the music is slow, the levels are tedious, there are no multiple paths or characters, the platforming is awkward, Simon's movement is stiff, and the game is just too easy. I think it's just more popular with nostalgic Americans.

>> No.2747841

>>2747837

Nice opinions, faggot

>> No.2747845

>>2747841
>>>/v/

>> No.2747847

>>2747837
But you can whip in 8 directions!!!

>> No.2747849

>>2747837

Because it's still a step up from Bloodlines in every way but it came out 3 years earlier.

>>2747845

Nah, that guy's cool, he can stay.

>> No.2747856

>>2747845

Nobody will tell you "nice opinion" on /v/. They'll just call you a faggot directly.
We're more polite around here.

>> No.2747857

Bloodlines is more like JoJo: Battle Tendency rather than any rocky

the crazy shit was always there, it was always supposed to be there

>> No.2747860

>>2747849
How is it a step up?
IV is a major step down from III. New Generation is a major step up from IV. The only game better than New Generation is Rondo of Blood.

>> No.2747864

>>2747417
Not /vr/
Thread you know what'ed

>> No.2747865

>>2747864
Enjoy your ban you rule breaking newfag.

>> No.2747870

>>2747860
>>2747849

You two are never going to agree, idiots.

Learn to respect other people's tastes and live with that.

Because of people like you two is why we can't have good Castlevania threads.

"my favorite game is BEST your favorite is SHIIIIT!"

Idiots.

>> No.2747872

>>2747856
Yeah, /vr/ is much more mature. Instead of saying someone has shit taste, they'll just sperg out and accuse everyone with a different opinion than them of being underage.

>> No.2747875

>>2747872

You can leave if anything here bothers you, anon.

>> No.2747876

>>2747865
Rule breaking? Did I say anything rule breaking? "You know what'ed"
Your youth is showing, kiddo.

>> No.2747879

>>2747860
>The only game better than New Generation

stupid yuropoor. agree about Rondo being the best though

>> No.2747882

>>2747870
IV legitimately is shit, though. It has very few redeeming qualities. In fact, I can't think of a single good thing to say about it.

>> No.2747885

>>2747876
You're not avoiding the janitor's wrath with your silly little tricks. Enjoy your ban.

>> No.2747886

>>2747870
What else is there to talk about, anyway? Castlevania threads could use a wave of newfags complaining about artificial difficulty or something. Otherwise there isn't much you can do besides bickering and dumping art.

>> No.2747887

>>2747882
You're actually quite an idiot. It is so obvious you're young. Bloodlines is great, so is IV.

>> No.2747890

>>2747882

Yeah, I've read a lot of people call Bloodlines shit, too.

If you genuinely think either IV or Bloodlines are anything other than really great games, I don't think you're a Castlevania fan. You're just a poser trying to win hipster credit on an anonymous internet board.

>> No.2747891

>>2747870
>Because of people like you two is why we can't have good Castlevania threads.


to be fair, any thread about e-celeb faggotry quickly turns into shitposting. and rightfully so.

>> No.2747893

>>2747885
Hahah I'm so afraid...fuck off little kid. You must not be here often. We don't have a janitor.

>> No.2747896

>>2747890
>If you genuinely think either IV or Bloodlines are anything other than really great games, I don't think you're a Castlevania fan

agree.

>> No.2747898

>>2747887
Maybe you're just blinded by nostalgia. I never had a Nintendo console, as I'm not American or Japanese, so when I played IV I could look at it objectively. I can tell you truthfully, kid, that there is nothing good about IV. Every other classic style Castlevania is better in one way or another.

>> No.2747903

>>2747898
Please tell me why you think The Adventure is better than 4

>> No.2747905

>>2747890
I'm not a fan of any franchise, I'm a fan of good games. I don't see how IV is a good game, it just feels like a very awkward, rushed mess of a game.

>> No.2747906

>>2747898
Another unreachable, generation z teen. Do your mommy and daddy proud you entitled spawn.

>> No.2747907
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2747907

>>2747886

Lots of things to discuss. But the Castlevania fandom SUCKS.

There's a lot of interesting things to discuss about the series, it sure would be nice to compare the games without having to go full hyperbole calling your favorite BEST and the ones that aren't your favorite/on the system from the company you hate "shit".

I'd also risk saying most of Castlevania "fans" don't even know who the Castlevania creator is. They know IGA and that's it.

We could have good threads, but no, it all comes down to "BEST and WORST" hyperbole bullshit.
Castlevania threads are on the same level as Final Fantasy in terms of shitposting and horrible fanbase.

>> No.2747909

>>2747893
>We don't have a janitor

Yes we do and I don't appreciate you talking about her in that tone.

>> No.2747914

>>2747898
Agreed. IV has way too many pain in the ass sections and at times leans on fucking horrible mode 7 tricks and other bullshit to try and impress.

I loved the SNES but goddamn Castlevania IV was not a fun game.

>> No.2747916

>>2747909
She sits inher fat girl chair/cart all day and does absolutely nothing,I guess.

>> No.2747917

>>2747903
It's more difficult and controls just as well.
>>2747906
Everyone who disagrees with you is a teenager? Nice defence mechanism, you projecting kid. Why are Americans such nintendo fanboys?

>> No.2747919
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2747919

>>2747907
How about we finally talk about how Castlevania 3 is the first meme game, then?

>> No.2747920

>>2747916
Seriously kid this is your last warning. Apologize right now or you'll regret it.

>> No.2747927

>>2747898
>>2747905

you're one cute little contrarian, but your opinion will never be accepted as popular.

IV is a good game.

You can cry and complain about "slow!!!" or "awkward/stiff!!!" all you want, it just shows how little you know about Castlevania, especially the classic titles.

Nobody really cares if you don't like IV, you're entitled to liking whatever you like. It's cute how you still could never come up with any actual criticism other than "it's shit!" or "it's slow/too easy!" when those arguments are already stale. Castlevania was never a game about going fast, and IV's later levels are harder than anything in Bloodlines or Rondo. Also difficulty doesn't determines whether a game is good or not, Rondo is probably the easiest of the classic titles, and it's still considered one of the best, and for good reason.

So, cry all you want, IV will never be considered bad by general consensus. And to be honest, neither will Bloodlines, both are great games.

The only of the classic games that gets a lot of flak (more than it deserves IMO) is Simon's Quest.
Being a Simon's Quest fanboy is the ultimate hipster thing, everyone shits on it.

>> No.2747928

>>2747914
The framerate is also a killer. Just like Super Ghouls n Ghosts. What was wrong with the SNES hardware?

>> No.2747930

>>2747920
No, I would rather parade, what most surely be, the most disgusting obese woman through a pile of Doritos for her daily feeding. Then I would salt her bed sores.

>> No.2747934
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2747934

>>2747930
You MADE me do this. I didn't want to reach this point but you just had to keep pushing me and pushing me.

>> No.2747935

>>2747928
>Just like Super Ghouls n Ghosts
Don't say that. Nothing's as bad as the slowdown in Super GnG.

>> No.2747938

>>2747927
The other games aren't stiff and slow in the way IV is, though. IV just doesn't control well even with the assisted movement. I don't see how it's a hipster thing, only Americans like IV.

>> No.2747939

>>2747934
Hahahahahahahha that pic

>> No.2747940

>>2747928
It sacrificed speed for a bit better graphic and sound quality over the Genesis.

So you get games that might not look or sound as good on the Genesis but play better. That's not 100% true for all titles though because you had some poorly done Genesis ports, but as a general rule SNES ran games more poorly.

SNES did many kinds of games really well, though, and looked great doing it. It's just that certain games you really wanted a Genesis for. I had both back then, tons of games for both, and loved it.

>> No.2747941

>>2747935
It's still bad in IV and makes some parts unplayable.

>> No.2747942

>>2747870

>waahhhh STOP FIGHTING ON THE INTERNET!!!!

>> No.2747946

>>2747938
>only Americans like IV.

What's with this shit.

You aren't the australian shitposter, by chance, are you?

I'm not murrican and IV is one of my favorites (only surpassed by III on my list).

The other games are even stiffer than IV, in IV you can control Simon mid-air, if anything, IV is slightly less stiff than in most other classic games.

You really don't know much about Castlevania.

>> No.2747947

>>2747898
>so when I played IV I could look at it objectively.

That was your first mistake. You were actively trying not to enjoy it.

>> No.2747948

>>2747942

more like

>waahhhh STOP SHITTING UP CASTLEVANAI THREADS EVEN MORE

the worst thing is that this is something that keeps building up.

People will get butthurt ITT and then shitpost in "revenge" in future castlevania threads.

It's the never ending cycle of Castlevania threads, we're destined to never have good threads without shitposting (unless it's about music)

>> No.2747951

>>2747940
I only had a Mega Drive, but I've played Snes games since. The music on Snes is definitely better, but I like the MD sound better. I prefer arcade style games and speed, so the MD is way better for me.

>> No.2747959

>>2747946
As I said in the post you replied to, which you obviously didn't read, the stiff control of Simon is exacerbated by controlling him in mid-air, as the stiffness doesn't refer to not being able to move in mid air. I don't see how you could think that.
Nintendo was never and has never been popular in Europe, so we don't get nostalgic for your shit games.

>> No.2747960

>>2747934

Is this picture confusing as fuck to anybody else?

>> No.2747967

>>2747959
>Nintendo was never and has never been popular in Europe, so we don't get nostalgic for your shit games.

Castlevania IV is not a "Nintendo game"; it's by Konami.

Stop being a stupid console warrior.

Also your explanation as to why you think Simon is "stiff" on IV doesn't make sense. Stop trying, you can't really explain why you don't like IV without just calling it "shit" or buzzwording with "it's slow/stiff!".

Just be honest, say you never gave IV a fair chance because you hate Nintendo, and be done with it.

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>>2747960

>> No.2747973

>>2747959
>the stiff control of Simon is exacerbated by controlling him in mid-air

I'm inclined to believe that you haven't played any of the CV games at all and probably just watched some gameplay on youtube.

>> No.2747974

>>2747959
>Nintendo was never and has never been popular in Europe, so we don't get nostalgic for your shit games.
>I don't like this Castlevania game because it's on Nintendo durrrr

I hate Nintendofags, but I think I hate the vocal anti-nintendo crowd even more.

>> No.2747975

>>2747973
Not him but I found the controls in Castlevania 4 to be kinda unpleasant as well. Wouldn't describe them as "stiff", but it didn't feel like Simon had a presence in the world. Was just kind of floating from place to place in a loose manner. The jump's especially awkward.

>> No.2747979

>>2747967
You do know it's on a Nintendo console, right? No one owned those things. It is a stiff game. Compare it to New Generation, Rondo or Chronicles, IV feels like a rusty gear shift in comparison. Maybe it's a Snes thing, because Vampire's Kiss also controls poorly.

>> No.2747980

>>2747979

Yeah whatever, keep that nintendo hateboner hard.

>> No.2747981

>>2747973
I don't think you've played any games besides I, II, III, and IV.

>> No.2747984

>>2747981

If he played 1 and 3, he has more authority than most castlevania "fans" who only emulated the 16 bit games and SOTN.

>> No.2747989

>>2747979

Vampire's Kiss was the japanese name of the Genesis Castlevania, kid.

Also you never played Chronicles, stop trying to fit in.

>> No.2747990

>>2747984
I'm pretty sure everyone has played I and III. There are so many versions of I it's very hard not to have played it.

>> No.2747991

>>2747984
>someone who only played two games is more of a fan than someone who played five games

>> No.2747993

>>2747990

No anon, some people refuse to play 1 and 3 because they're on NINTENDO

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2747995

>>2747989
>Vampire's Kiss was the japanese name of the Genesis Castlevania, kid.
Are you retarded, or just pretending?
>Also you never played Chronicles, stop trying to fit in.
I don't think you've played it, kid, considering how hard you're projecting.

>> No.2747996

>>2747993
I was released on many platforms.

>> No.2747998

>>2747995

Alright, my bad, got it mixed with Vampire Killer.

Stop using these retarded european names, please.

The New Generation especially sucks.

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>>2747996
Oh fuck video games post on /vr/!

>> No.2748004

>>2747989
Bloodlines is Vampire Killer in Japan, you moron. Do you know anything at all about Castlevania, or do you just watch AVGN and pretend to be an expert?

>> No.2748006

>>2747996

but originally on Nintendo! it means they suck because my poor european parents couldn't afford both Sega and Nintendo systems when I was a kid!

>> No.2748007

>>2747998
You should just stop using the retarded Americuck names, burger breath.

>> No.2748008

>>2748007

Insult americans all you want, I'm not one.

Still no Castlevania game has a more retarded, generic name than "The New Generation".

>> No.2748009

I'm going to sleep now but Castlevania Chronicles in arrange mode is the best game out of the whole series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMMIdnJnQ5Q

You're all homos for thinking otherwise, but Bloodlines groupies are the absolute worst.

>> No.2748012

>>2748006
>both
I actually had multiple consoles, just not a Nintendo console.

>> No.2748013

>>2748009
>but Bloodlines groupies are the absolute worst.

In one hand I understand them, Bloodlines is a great game that usually gets overshadowed by IV and Rondo.

On the other hand you're right, they're insufferable.

>> No.2748014

>>2748008
I can think of a worse name, Bloodlines. If you're not an Amerifat why do you use Americunt names?

>> No.2748015

>>2748012

Sure you did, europoor.

I bet you were playing the Commodore 64 port of Castlevania 1 in 1997 in your shit country.

>> No.2748019

>>2748013
all castlevania fans are insufferable tbh

>> No.2748020

>>2748009
Fuck off to your blog.

>> No.2748021

>>2748014
>If you're not an Amerifat why do you use Americunt names?

Oh, there's an answer for that, but I won't tell you. Let's just say that I'm not american.

Also Bloodlines is a pretty badass name.
The New Generation sounds like a title for a One Direction album.

>> No.2748024

>>2748015
My country has a better standard of living than America.

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2748026

>>2748021
>Bloodlines is badass[sic]
>New Generation is generic

>> No.2748027

>e-celeb hating
>CV4 and Bloodlines fighting
>America vs Europe

I wonder where this thread will go next.

>> No.2748028

>>2748021
Makes sense since eric is a massive faggot.

>> No.2748029

>>2748021
>The New Generation sounds like a title for a One Direction album.

or a Pepsi Advertisement from 1990.

>> No.2748030

>>2748027
ur mom's place

>> No.2748031

WHAT A
HORRIBLE
NIGHT TO
HAVE A
CASTLEVANIA THREAD.

>> No.2748034

>>2748026

Nice reaction image you got there, from /v/?

Also

>says he doesn't like IV because it's slow
>plays shitty PAL games

All your games are slow, bro.

>> No.2748036

>>2748030
Can I watch you bang my mom?

>> No.2748038

>>2748034
>all your games are slow
Not true at all, most were optimised. Do you know how games work at all? Enjoy your low resolution and lack of colours, broseph.

>> No.2748045

>>2748038

Hahahah, sure thing PALbro, sure thing. Enjoy your 50hz and slowed down everything.

>optimised (sic)

KEK

>> No.2748049

>>2748045
Yeah, you're just technologically illiterate. I guess that's just typical from an American. You do know PAL is the superior colour encoding standard, right?

>> No.2748050

>>2748049

Yeah bro, totally, these colors, they're so vibrant, they kind of make the games and music go slower, it's crazy really.

>> No.2748054
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXGAzruMkSg

>> No.2748056

>>2748049

Just accept that your country was too poor to afford glorious 60hz video games for longest time and leave it at that.

>> No.2748057

>>2748050
Now you're trying to save face. Why do kids who grew up with HD tvs always act like retards when it comes to older technology?

>> No.2748058

>>2748057

Yeah, kids these days right?
They never got to experience the glorious days of good ol' slow PAL 50hz games.

>> No.2748061

>>2748054

Holy shit, is this real?

>> No.2748062

>>2748056
You do know most games were optimised, right? Unless the game wasn't optimised for PAL the NTSC version was inferior. The only game I was disappointed about not being optimised was Mega Man. The teens here wouldn't know shit about colour encoding anyway, now you'll try to pass of your stupidity as 'trolling'.

>> No.2748063

>>2748061
No, it's fake.

>> No.2748067

>>2748058
Just pretending to be retarded?
>>2748061
Yes, Sonic 1 was never optimised. Not a great game, though, so no big loss. A system can be easily modded to run at 60hz as well, if you want to play imports and unoptimised games.

>> No.2748068

>>2748062
Japanese developers didn't give 2 shits about optimization for PAL regions, Japan also has NTSC anyway.

It's still funny and ironic how you were complaining about SNES being slow, but now suddenly you're defending colors (something SNES was better than MD at), instead of SPEED, which PAL lacked.
Very ironic.

>> No.2748069

>>2747004
>Mike Matei
MINEY CRAFTA

>> No.2748071

>>2748062

Nice try mohammed, I just saw the version of Sonic 2 you guys played and any shred of credibility you once had has been thrown out the window.

>> No.2748072

>>2748067
>Not a great game, though, so no big loss.

holy shit, fox and the sour grapes.

this is getting sadder.

>> No.2748075

>>2748068
You do know most games were optimised, right? Oh wait, you wouldn't, you're just a dumb kid living in an American bubble. It's really surprising how stupid you people can be.

>> No.2748078

>>2748075

Stop with the optimised (sic) bullshit.
Only european developers gave a shit to optimize anything for PAL, japanese devs didn't care.

>> No.2748079

>>2748071
I meant Sonic 1, tired af.

>> No.2748081

Rocky III was a good movie.

>> No.2748082

>>2748071
Sonic 2 runs at the same speed of Japanese games on my Mega Drive, maybe you saw a video of someone playing it on a Japanese or American console, that will cause it to be slower, whereas Sonic 1 (PAL) will run at the same speed as it's NTSC counterpart on an NTSC console, as it was not optimised.
>>2748072
I've played it at full speed on Sonic Jam, it's not that great. 2 is three or four times better and 3 is better than 2.

>> No.2748083

>>2748038
>most were optimized
Outside of the Amiga what was optimized?

>> No.2748084

>>2748083

Nothing, he's having delirious dementia because we're wrecking his shitty childhood playing slow as fuck PAL shit.

>b-but it was optimised guys! i swear!

>> No.2748085

>>2748024
>this much denial
topkek

>> No.2748086

>>2748078
Look who's the expert now. You clearly don't know shit, kid. Most games were optimised, your unsubstantiated claim that Sega didn't care about its biggest market doesn't hold water. Some Capcom games run slower, a few early games from other publishers, and imports run slower. You're fucking stupid.

>> No.2748089

>>2748086

5
0
h
z

>> No.2748090

>>2748083
I'm talking about the Mega Drive specifically. I don't know about many others. I can think of two games, Sonic and Mega Man, that run slower.

>> No.2748092
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2748092

>>2748089
>525 lines

>> No.2748094

>>2748086
Whilst you're obviously arguing with a 15 year old from /v/, MD games really weren't that well optimised for the most part. The Saturn and the Playstation was when the tide started to really turn and we got a lot more Japanese games at correct speed.

50HZ wasn't a huge deal though obviously, as European computers were the majority of the games market and they obviously ran as intended.

>> No.2748095

>>2748082
How can it run at the same speed when programming with any of the chipsets is dependent on ntsc being 60 fps and pal being in the 50s? Ntsc is always faster

>> No.2748096

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/screen-cvbl.htm

>The European version is bereft of blood due to morality laws. For instance: Blood doesn't drip down from the platforms on the first stage, and Eric Lecarde doesn't impale himself with the spear when he dies. Also, the subtitle differs ("The New Generation") in objection to even the word blood

LOL, literally worse than NoA.

>Like all PAL versions up to this point, its play-speed is painfully slow. (4) The heroes' hit-detection has worsened, and they now receive damage for attacks that sometimes don't come close.

As expected, PAL version is a butchered piece of shit.

>> No.2748104

>>2748095
Skimming the wikipedia page really gives you a skewed view. Try learning what those things mean first, rather than thinking 'durr higher number'.
>>2748094
The speed difference, if there is one, is negligible, and the borders don't take away from the game at all, they're not even noticeable. If someone needs to play at 60hz for imports, it's actually really easy to modify the system. It took me a few minutes to do it when I was region modding my Saturn.

>> No.2748107

>>2748104
>The speed difference, if there is one, is negligible
>not even noticeable

Keep telling that to yourself

>> No.2748114

>>2748107
I was recently playing Gebockers on a friend's unmodded Saturn and didn't really notice it at all.

>> No.2748116

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmMXA7FpR_U

pal vs ntsc Castlevania 1

>> No.2748118

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNaF1vhtlgs

it's like castlevania on valium

>> No.2748125

>>2748116
Looks like someone playing a PAL cart on an NTSC console, but I never had a Nintendo console, so idk.

>> No.2748129

>>2748125
>Looks like someone playing a PAL cart on an NTSC console

Looks like someone playing a PAL game on a PAL console, friend.

>> No.2748132

>>2748129
Because you have so much experience with that, right?

>> No.2748134

>>2748132

Thankfully, no.

Always played NTSC at 60hz as developers intended :^)

>> No.2748148

>>2748134
>Thankfully, no.
I know that, I was being sarcastic.

>> No.2748150

>>2748148

I was, too. I don't want experience with PAL games that were developed for NTSC displays.

>> No.2748160

>>2747480

the 80's,

people used to be very naive and optimistic about the future. Kinda miss it.

>> No.2748162

>>2748150
I'll keep enjoying optimised games at a higher resolution. I don't know how you could stand the blurry, muddy, fuzzy picture that NTSC gives.

>> No.2748173

>>2748162

Ask japanese developers, they also played and developed with NTSC in mind.

Enjoy your euroshmups, I bet those are optimised ;)

>> No.2748178

>>2748173
I modded my Saturn to run at 60hz and play Japanese games, so I enjoy the best of both worlds. PAL 60 has been a thing for a while now, by the way.

>> No.2748180

>>2748178

haha, well done my friend. Welcome to the 60hz party, 20 years after the fact.

>> No.2748183

>>2748180
Woah, woah, woah, kiddo. I'm not going to be a part of your shit colours NTSC party, do you know how bad that would make my games look? You Americans probably don't even use SCART. Barbarians.

>> No.2748184
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2748184

how do PAL colors work?

I seem to remember this screen had more red in the jp/us versions

>> No.2748189
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>>2748184
PAL colours are superior.

>> No.2748192

>>2748183

Learn to read, I was talking about Hz.

Welcome to the 60hz party, 20 years after the fact.

And I'll remind you that all of the japanese games you're playing were made in NTSC, unless you're playing euro games, PAL means shit (and slowness)

>> No.2748194

>>2748189

but I don't get why the red looks blue in PAL.

>> No.2748198

>>2748184
>>2748194
Red is too spooky, so they had to censor it for sensitive Yuros.
It's blue da ba dee da ba daa for the same reasons there's less gore, and the title isn't Bloodlines.

>> No.2748202

>>2748192
PAL means a better picture with higher resolution. It also means I have to play Sonic 1 on Saturn, which is a better option anyway.
>>2748194
It was censored because Germany found the blood offensive. They're the same people who won't allow you to question the Holocaust.

>> No.2748203

>>2748202

PAL means that unless you're playing a game by european developers, you're going to be playing a butchered, slowdown version of the original NTSC game developed in Japan.

>> No.2748206

>>2748203
That's not true, though, Sega of Europe optimised most of the games for the system. I realise an ignorant American wouldn't know that, as they have a very limited worldview, but you shouldn't make claims about things you don't understand.
PAL means a higher resolution, better colours and a better picture.

>> No.2748209

>>2748206

Nobody wants PAL games for a reason, buddy.
Collectors from Europe import their NTSC games form US and Japan all the time.

You yourself had to mod your Saturn for 60hz.

PAL was shit, especially during the MD days. I'm sorry you had to suffer it.

Also the censorship, not fair, poor eurofriend.

>> No.2748215

>>2748096

poor yuropoors, and the real kicker is that it's our fault, tomas edison tricked them into using DC! The Fools!

>> No.2748216

>>2748203
Literally none of that is true.

>> No.2748219
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>> No.2748221

/vr/ used to be so good.

Why did the mods abandon us?

>> No.2748224

>>2748216

The games developed originally in NTSC in japan part is true.

Only euro developers caring about PAL optimization is also mostly true.

>> No.2748225

>>2748209
Nobody imports US games, just Japanese. The US didn't get any great releases over us, so no one wants US games. You see, if a game was unoptimised for PAL it will be the same thing Americans got, it will run slower on our consoles. The modification will fix this. If a game was optimised for PAL it will run too quickly at 60hz. So importing American games is basically useless. You could import Mega Man for Mega Drive from Europe, but I can't see any American exclusive games many MD players would want. I import Saturn games from Japan because they were never released here.

>> No.2748226

>>2748225

Glorious NTSC-J games

>> No.2748228

>>2748226
Yeah, we missed out on a lot of stuff not being localised for the west. I have a pretty big collection of Japanese Saturn games. It doesn't have much to do with colour encoding, though.

>> No.2748238

>>2748228

But how did you cope with the awful euro version of Vampire Killer? you just endured the slowness, bad hitbox and censorship or you were able to import the japanese game back in the day?

>> No.2748241

>>2748238
You mean the MSX game? Or New Generation? I think you should try to play the games yourself, because I never noticed anything like that.

>> No.2748245

>>2748241

Did the MSX game have any censorship?

Think a little.

>> No.2748246

>>2748132
I'll take a video over an anonymous person claiming experience.

>> No.2748248

>>2748245
Yes, actually, I think it did.

>> No.2748251

>>2748248

At least check your facts before hitting submit.

>> No.2748253

>>2748246
You don't know the conditions that video was recorded under. Obviously a PAL optimised game will run slower on an American console. If it wasn't optimised it would run just like the American version on an American console.

>> No.2748256

>>2748253

I'll take a video over an anonymous PAL apologist

>> No.2748258

>>2747004
Appalling.

>> No.2748259
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2748259

we are laughing at you, in your face

>> No.2748260

>>2748256
You shouldn't just take my word, or the word of the video. You should find a proper test.

>> No.2748261

>>2747989
>Vampire's Kiss was the japanese name of the Genesis Castlevania
>kid
Embarassing.

>> No.2748265

>>2748261

Vampire Killer, close enough.

To be honest, what was up with Europe's gay titles?
The New Generation, Vampire's Kiss... how was SOTN named in Europe? Ballad of Gay Alucard?

>> No.2748268

Why did Australia get PAL and not NTSC?

>> No.2748271

>that day Kojima called /v/ "Australia"

he knew

>> No.2748275

>>2748268
PAL was the more recent and superior technology, as Europe and Australia adopted colour tv later than Japan and the US.

>> No.2748276

>>2748268
Pretty sure they get "mate," not "PAL"

>> No.2748279

>>2748275

I see, they adopted TV color later... kinda slow

>> No.2748280

>>2748268
>Why did Australia get PAL and not NTSC?
1) Countries that tended to get television late went with PAL since it was a newer improved form of transmission
2) Australia went with whatever their pommy masters chose

>> No.2748284

>>2748279
Video games weren't a consideration in 1975 when Australia adopted colour television.

>> No.2748287

>>2748280
forgot
3) Countries that had electricity utility frequency of 50hz tended to go with PAL. I don't really get this but maybe some electrical engineers could explain

>> No.2748289

>>2748280
You mean get colour television.

>> No.2748295

>>2748289
Yep sorry that's what I meant

>> No.2748305

>>2748295
I don't want you to confuse the Americans.

>> No.2748309
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2748309

Native resolution

>NTSC: 320×448
>PAL: 320×480

Thanks based Hungarian devs

>> No.2748318

>>2748305
Interesting article. Not really related but just something interesting I stumbled upon recently.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2604480/posts

>> No.2748329

>>2748318
Is the person who wrote that retarded? Does he not know that Scotland is in Britain?

>> No.2748356

NTSC 4 lyfe. I can't believe the guy who was defending Bloodlines played the butchered and censored slow PAL version but then had the nerve to talk shit about SCIV.

>> No.2748358

>>2748356
PAL is the superior encoding, and New Generation is better than IV.

>> No.2748363

>>2748276
That's Britain. Australia gets cunt.

>> No.2748365

>>2748356
Not him but even with PAL slowdown its a faster-paced and more enjoyable game than IV. Every SNES game is slower than PAL Mega Drive games anyway.

>> No.2748368
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2748368

>> No.2748383

>>2747196
I agree, Castlevania III, Rondo of Blood, and Bloodlines are all great.

>> No.2748403

>>2748368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvR_3OTxs8A

>> No.2748482

>>2747082
probably just a passive observation, your douchebag comment wasn't really needed

>> No.2748485

>>2747004

It's like a podcast for fuck's sake, why do people take this shit so seriously ?

>> No.2748487

>>2747336
>I wish a slow painful death

Too many anons are wishing the death of people they don't know.
Can this shit get more childish ?

>> No.2748519

>>2748487

You could always go back to reddit if it bothers you.

>> No.2748526

>>2748365

Yeah, everything is slower in 50hz. Sorry that you guys were living a lie.

>> No.2748532

>>2747051
Pretty sure he was released before 2000

>> No.2748535

>>2748526
t. clueless, technologically illiterate yank

>> No.2748570
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2748570

>>2748265
It was called Nocturne in the Moonloght. Don't try to change the subject now that you've been exposed, scrub.

>> No.2748580

>>2747692
>Rename yourself to Angry Videogame Nerd
That was for legal reasons.

>> No.2748592

>>2748519

I've been an anon for 7 years, lately i'm checking reddit and the problem is that they barely talk about games, the current userbase is not as bad as i was expecting and moderation work.
Also they wish the death of many people too, it's just fucking childish anon.

>> No.2748616

>>2748356

Yeah I find it pretty ironic, too.

Castlevania fans are just dumb like that though, and the best thing is that they can't come up with any actual criticism, it's always the same subjective shit and hypocrite arguments.

Basically console fanboys being shit eaters.

>> No.2748619

>>2747004
Did anyone else rub one out during the Apollo Creed/Rocky beach frolic scene?

>> No.2748629

Mike is a huge huge manchild and James doesnt really care for games that much

>> No.2748694

>>2748482
>your douchebag comment wasn't really needed


welcome to 4chan kid. enjoy your stay

>> No.2748734
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2748734

What is going on in this thread?

>> No.2748750

>>2748629
>James doesnt really care for games that much
Nor would i if i had played them for years and was still that bad, christ James is a proper water skull when it comes to gaming.

>> No.2748772
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2748772

I didn't realise it until they got to pic related, but they were playing this game on Easy mode. When I played on Normal mode, those skeleton things would circle around then charge at me. In the vid, they're flying around like Medusa heads.

>> No.2748789

>>2748118

I could listen to this shit while sippin' on some purple drank.

>> No.2748793

>>2748772

I stopped watching when he started talking about his dumb cat and nobody was playing.

>> No.2748819

>>2748694
>this 4chan is a hostile place meme

Fuck off

>> No.2748829

>>2748819
your fragile emotions were irrelevant long before any memes were

>> No.2748842

>>2747004

I always liked Bloodlines more than SCV4, SCV4 is so ridiculously overrated and it's not even the best Classicvania.

>> No.2748849

>>2748842

SCV4 is overrated by some, and underrated by others.

It's a pretty great game, a shame some people decide to hate on it simply because of Sega vs Nintendo stuff.

I like both Bloodlines and IV.

>> No.2748852

>>2748849

I'm just tired of it being put up on a pedestal as "teh best castlevania evrar!!!" when I think other games in the series were better, especially Rondo of Blood

>> No.2748856

>>2748852

Rarely anybody ever claims SCIV is the best Classicvania... it's usually Rondo at the top of everybody's lists. One thing is for sure though, Bloodlines is far below Rondo,CV3,Chronicles and SCIV.

>> No.2748858

>>2748856
>Bloodlines is far below Rondo,CV3,Chronicles and SCIV

Eh I wouldn't say that, I wouldn't say it's FAR below them, it's easier than all of them yeah but It's still a really good game. I honestly think Bloodlines has a better soundtrack than IV

>> No.2748873

>>2748852

Unpopular opinion time:
I actually think Rondo of Blood is a bit overrated, while Dracula X is severely underrated.

But all in all, they're all good games, whether or not you like one or other more is mostly subjective stuff.

People will cling to IV and Bloodlines the most because they're like the representative Castlevania for both Nintendo and Sega, people use those games as ammo for their childish console wars.
Rondo of Blood is like the "hip" choice, game that was left in Japan for so long, etc.
It's a good neutral game for console warriors since westerners aren't too familiar with the TG-16/PCE, but I think it's not the best Castlevania, it's on my personal top 3 though.

They're all good games, but people pretending that one of them is the BEST EVER and that the others are shit/overrated are just being obnoxious fanboys.

>> No.2748976

>>2748750
And he never got good because he never cared enough in the first place

>> No.2749001

>>2747054
inorite? They say "SCIV has better sound" how is that exactly when its soundtrack consists of shit like this in comparison to what you posted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUEC1Rcb1TA

Maybe they could have a better listen if they managed to take Nintendo's dick out of their mouth for a couple minutes.

>> No.2749034

>>2749001

I can also cherrypick

This sounds too light for a Castlevania game, and rather popish/cheerful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJsfwHObvw

This is more like Castlevania, and one of my favorite tracks from the entire series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cTjcGCjluQ

I like both soundtracks a lot, just sayin'

>> No.2749035

>>2748253
Doesn't matter that's still more proof than some random guy claiming experience.

>> No.2749048

>>2749034
If you had been paying attention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKJsfwHObvw was one of the exact same songs I was agreeing with >>2747054 about being better than anything from SCIV's OST because that tune is fucking amazing. So using it to try and then convince me how its weaker than SCIV's OST is a big fat fail for you buddy.

>> No.2749064

>>2749048

I'm not even saying it's a bad song, I like it too, I just say it sounds too cheerful for Castlevania, but it's still a nice song.

Hating on IV or Bloodlines is pretty silly guys.

Duuuur hurrr sega vs nintendo am I right? I was an idort in the 90s, never had those stupid thoughts of "my company is better than yours" and so I wasn't limited on what I could like and what I couldn't.

>> No.2749084

I like both soundtracks as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BVFbBXuYtI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsgffC9KfSY

My favorite tracks from each game.

And my favorite track from Rondo, which is probably the most un-Castlevania track ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1dRzjA_Xlc

>> No.2749383

>>2747054
I didn't notice before but if you play as eric the life bar has some green on it.

>> No.2750307

>>2748772
I'm pretty sure they were playing on normal because the harpies had spears in the 3rd stage.

>> No.2750691

>>2748873
CV3 is overall the best.

>> No.2750693

>>2750691

Castlevania 1 is the best

>> No.2750725

>>2750693
Obligatory Rondo post

>> No.2750757

>>2750693

agreed.

>> No.2750775

>>2748482
>using the word douchebag unironically
>mad when his pointless post gets a pointless reply

Loving
Every
Laugh

>> No.2750809

>>2747004
Are you surprised? James is a total faggot for SCIV.
The hit detection thing and it not feeling good is totally ridiculous to me. I played both games as an adult for the first time and Bloodlines is head and shoulders the better game.

Though Rondo is better than both; Rondo>CV1>=CV3>Bloodlines>SCIV

>> No.2750821

>>2750809
>The hit detection thing and it not feeling good is totally ridiculous to me.

It's the same shit with people who hate on IV.
"it's slow", "it doesn't feel good", etc. All baseless opinions that don't actually mean shit, just like this AVGN guys saying Bloodlines feeling off or whatever.

>> No.2750924

>>2750821
What I don't like about SCIV is that it's not On/Off when it comes to whipping. I like Castlevania and also Ghouls and Ghosts because all inputs are atomic, you're either jumping or not, you're either whipping or not, there is no in between and every action must be planned.

In SCIV they give you the bullshit whip jangle thing that comes out if you hold the button too long, and does like half damage compared to the regular whip. Also you can kind of steer Simon's jumps, but its so heavy and ineffective I question why they made that a feature at all. Half the challenge of Classicvania is that all movement has a purpose and you can't just go in Whips a Blazing.

>> No.2750946

>>2750924

I dunno, I personally never had a trouble with IV's controls, but I mean, it's okay, everyone has their opinions. I've read people saying that Bloodlines feels like a "generic action game with the castlevania game on it", and I honestly don't get it. Bloodlines is amazing, as is IV.

All Castlevania games added new gameplay elements after 1.
The only true cvlt hardc0re castlevania experience is Castlevania 1, and arguably Haunted Castle if you REALLY want to go hardcore (especially the US arcade release with only 3 lives and no continues).

Castlevania III added new characters which controlled differently, Rondo included item crash and backflip (and Maria).

If we really are going to get "this is not like my castlevania", then the only true Castlevania is the first.

>> No.2750960

>>2747004
This whole thread is people lying about playing rondo.

>> No.2750962

>>2750960

This whole thread is the castlevania fans being castlevania fans. And a PAL shitposter.

Why do you think people lie about playing Rondo? it's not like it's like the 90s where you needed to import a PCE CD to play it.

>> No.2750964

>>2750960
Played it on Vita through Dracula X bonus content. It is def as good as people say it is fam.

>> No.2750968

I played bloodlines and IV almost back to back in September.
Most of what James said is sensationalist or fueling his sciv fetish, but I will agree that Bloodline's hit detection is pretty bad, especially compared to IV.

>> No.2750972

>>2748008
Too bad. If you were you may have a shot at nailing down a 250k a year paycheck, eurrrrrrooooopooor! I would die if I was really poor

>> No.2750973

>>2748054
>>2748116
>>2748118

holy shit, poor Europs

>> No.2750974

>>2748024
Umm yea? So what do you make? Let's compare dicks europoor. Rich American here

>> No.2751183

>>2750809
>James is a total faggot for SCIV.

and yet neither him nor Mike had any clue what a harpy was

>> No.2751350

>>2747004
>Castlevania (X) is alright, but CV4 is soo much better! You can whip in 8 directions!
>Yeah, Castlevania (X) is pretty good but you can't whip in all 8 directions, which is a huge downgrade ;^(


Every damn time, you cucks.

>> No.2751368

So this went from shitposting to /int/ shitposting with people money boasting ?
How fucking shit is this board getting ?

>> No.2751387

>>2750974

Tell us about your job anon, i would do anything to help a deranged man with a poor self-esteem.

>> No.2751445

>>2751368

Blame it on the PAL cuck who was in complete denial about receiving slower and butchered games compared to glorious NTSC.

I can't stop laughing at the PAL version of Sonic 1.

>> No.2751470

>>2751445

Eh what are you gonna do ?
Some people want to defend indefeasible stuff, i'm italian and i know how much butchered stuff reached PAL countries, it's also true that we got good conversions.
At the time i went to a videogames store with an asian guy that had all NTSC versions of SNES games that had problems in PAL format, so i played mostly NTSC during that period of time, he sure did a lot money with me as a client goddamn.

>> No.2751510

>tfw PAL
>Find out about this game
>Find out it was censored
>Find a repro on ebay
>It's fucking New Generation
kill me

>> No.2751519

Okay >>2747415 again, did anyone see James' BttF video today? In it Mike said he thought the robot was in Rocky III, that's why he thought it was so weird, but thankfully James corrected him and said it was Rocky IV. So we can all agree now what Mike meant to say was Bloodlines was the Rocky IV of Castlevanias.

>> No.2751521

>>2751519

thanks for clarifying this up bro, I wasn't able to sleep because of this

>> No.2751673

>>2747124
Did they ever claim to know a lot about games? Not saying you're wrong, but I know for sure that games have always taken a back seat to film for James at least. No way in hell he'd have that room filled with stuff if he didn't have the Nerd character.

>> No.2751691

>>2751673
I think Mike knows a lot. I mean we're looking at 30+ years here over probably 20+ consoles, no one's gonna be an expert at all that. But if you watch his video where he shows his TV hookups he's got like 15 systems plugged into one TV and he's got the library to play them so I think he knows more than most on them. He's got a lot of foreign stuff and digs into romhacks often too. I think the issue is he's got so much stuff he never sits down with any one game long enough to really master it, which is why he can be frustrating to watch at Rondo of Blood when neither of them could backflip over the axe armor.

>> No.2751708

I don't care too much for Cuck n Mike mondays, but I will say that at least Mike is good at video games... James just does his stupid crooked smile and makes weird noises while he sucks at everything he plays for that sweet, sweet YT money.

>> No.2751728

>>2751691
More time spent collecting than playing.

>> No.2752201

>>2751691

Mike seems like the coolest guy that you don't always want hanging around. I can't really articulate it that well, he knows his shit but gets so annoying any time a game gets hard. James is laid back most of the time and gets focused when he gets frustrated but Mike just starts making excuses and complains.

Sometimes I wish it was James and Kyle Mondays.

>> No.2752207

>>2751445
There still weren't that many games that run slowly. Mostly older stuff like Sonic 1 and Golden Axe. Good thing Golden Axe still played well in the arcade, and Sonic is just a platformer.

>> No.2752219
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>>2751519

Actual OP here(that faggot trying to be me can die in hell), I know what he meant, it's just funnier to quote his off the cuff retarded reaction.

IV has the best fight tho, I love how stupidly violent it gets. Like, even in the 80's that fight gets called off 5 times over with all the shit that happens. I also find the training sequence to be hilarious. Drago is injecting nanomachines and deadlifting cement trucks while Rocky is fucking around cutting wood and almost getting hypothermia every fucking day he's there in the mountains. It really stung in the later movies that all that damage he took ended up all for naught fucking paulie mismanaged the money


The direction I wanted this thread to take was for /Classicvania/ to band together to shit on these two retards, but we all just went to our old habits of shitposting each other to death. We truly are /vr/'s greatest mistake.

>> No.2752242

>>2752219
>The direction I wanted this thread to take was for /Classicvania/ to band together to shit on these two retards

that's really fucking stupid.

>> No.2752251

>>2752242

I actually think that's what he really intended

>To be fair this is basically the same argument /vr/ makes in most CV threads when an anon wants to bash one castlevania game in favor of another.

I agree completely with this.

>> No.2752407

Anyone who says either game is "shit" is a retard. They're both fine games with their own merits. Any Castlevania fan can enjoy both.
You could make either game sound like shit.

>shitty gems
>weird hit detection
>farting guitars ruining muh Castlevania music
>option to play as a fag

>muh directional whipping
>muh mode 7
>every stage is meant to show off muh gimmicks
>Simon is fucking huge
>half the soundtrack is ambiance
>only good new themes are Simon's Theme, Mechanical Mansion, and the boss music

>> No.2752425

>>2747907
>You have to know who the creator is to like it

Nigger I have no idea what the guys in Dire Straits, or ZZ Top, or Blondie's names are but I enjoy their music immensely.

>> No.2752427 [DELETED] 

>>2750775
I love James and Mike mondays. They have such a great dynamic when just shooting the shit. It also sure feels good to not be autistic and offended by throw away opinions on video games.

>> No.2752428

>>2747004
I love James and Mike mondays. They have such a great dynamic when just shooting the shit. It also sure feels good to not be autistic and offended by throw away opinions on video games.

>> No.2752435

>>2747907
Yeah, Castlevania threads on 4chan always seems to be shit because of the many variations the franchise has gone through and people have to fight over it like console wars for retarded reasons. I rather like most of them, but I'm not overly fond about the games before Symphony of the Night because I like being able to change up the gameplay a lot.

>> No.2752440

>>2752407
>le fart xD
>fags xD
If you think the hit detection is bad you've clearly never played the game.

>> No.2752487

>>2751510
Just buy the JP one you muppet.

>> No.2752502

Know what's better than just Castlevania?

Coming home after a long day of work, and having some beers and playing Castlevania.
Nothing like it.

>> No.2752542

>>2748027
>I wonder where this thread will go next.
You know, J&MM cuts out a lot of gameplay, something real LP'ers don't. They leave it uncut, like its natural state.

Uncut master race, cutfags btfo.

UT is better than Quake, Black Omen is a christmas tree, 2hu is best SHMUP.

>> No.2753297
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>arguing about bloodlines vs Super 4 when Rondo is superior to both of them

It doesn't matter that much anyway, they're all amazing. It's kind of like Mario 3 vs SMW, it doesn't matter that much which one is considered the "best" because they're both winners in the end.

>> No.2753306

>>2753297

Yeah man but what do we do with our childhood memories? How do we cope with the fact that most of us only grew up with only half the fun instead of the full idort package?

And what about those that are younger and need to find a position to gain retro hipster cred and shit on popular games while praising "underrated" ones to seem like they fit in?

>> No.2753602

Was Rocky III the best one?

>> No.2753606

>>2753602

No, IV was.

>> No.2753608

>>2753606
So Bloodlines is like the IV?

>> No.2753617

>>2753608

SotN is the Rocky IV of Castlevania.

>> No.2753620

>>2753602
No, the first one was. Followed by the second. Both are near perfection. They got gradually worse after that.

>> No.2753625

>>2747898

you should feel proud about this /vr/
You have turned the Genesis into a meme

Look at what you have achieved after all those Genesis music is better than SNES music threads, an opinion no one had in the 90s in any schoolyard or games magazine.

>> No.2753627

>ITT: butthurt Sega fanboys

>> No.2753628

>>2747004
Great, expect the game to go $50 up more! thank you Mike Macunt

>every single Common game like Conquest of Crystal Palace is $25 cheapest and Lolo 3, Vice, Power Blade are over $60

>> No.2753631

>>2753625
>he was in school in the 90s
Underage pls go. Only kids and manchildren had Super Nintendos, normal people had PCs and Mega Drives.

>> No.2753632

>>2753625
thats because kids have shit taste

>> No.2753638

>>2753631

Yeah, SNES was pathetic in comparison. The Genesis had Sonic, Sonic 2.... uh, Madden, and ... Sonic 3? Totally blows SNES out of the water.

>> No.2753639

>>2753638
average nintenyearold

>> No.2753647

>>2753638
I guess you were one of those kids whose parents were scared of 'violent' games, that's why the gave you a colourful, little console with easy, story driven 'games' and inoffensive platformer after inoffensive platformer.

>> No.2753660

>>2753647

Because Sonic is a grown up game for big boy edgy teens?

>> No.2753663

>>2753639
>muh blast processing

>> No.2753668

>>2753663
>implying its not just some fancy term for kids to understand the genesis had a faster processor than the SNES and could also access RAM faster

>> No.2753670

>>2753638
Strawman, Strawman STRAWMAN!
Strawman, Strawman STRAWMAN!
Strawman, Strawman STRAWMAN!

>> No.2753673

>>2753660
No, because it's the only game you seem to know.

>> No.2753679

I honestly don't know how people thought the Genesis had the better library. It was a damn fine system, don't get me wrong, but the Super Nintendo just had hit after hit in all the different genras for so many years. When comparing the two libraries the Genesis eventually falls short while the SNES just keeps going.

Not even to mention the fact that the SNES had the best multiplats 95% of the time, and had overall better hardware.

>> No.2753719

>>2753679
I don't like platformers and RPGs, why would I prefer the Snes over the pure arcade action of the Mega Drive?

>> No.2753730

>>2753679

A lot of them are european/ just had the genesis growing up

>> No.2753738

>>2753730

I've read that SEGA did better over in Europe, was their library somehow better or did they simply do better marketing over there?

>> No.2753741

>>2753738
Sega had the most interesting games, and Nintendo was a condescending prick full of shit with no subtlety.

>> No.2753748

>>2753741

Well meme'd

>> No.2753750

>>2753738
I think they just did better, so maybe Nintendo's marketing just couldn't compare. The master system did amazing in Europe, so I'm sure Sega just walked right in with their new system.

>> No.2753751

>>2753738
Europeans are just into more mature, action oriented games. Nintendo is the kiddy brand and always has been.

>> No.2753772

>>2753751
That is not true.
Europeans were the continent less interested in action games, and the continent in which arcade machines were less popular.
The "mature" games europeans prefered and prefer in comparison to the rest of the world were strategy, point and click and simulators for pc.


The Super Nintendo and Genesis sold pretty much the same in Europe, slightly over 8 million units, the market was very divided between them, normal pcs and the Amiga.

The Playstation was the first extremely popular console in Europe, as dominant as the NES in USA or Japan.

>> No.2753789

>>2752219
>The direction I wanted this thread to take was for /Classicvania/ to band together to shit on these two retards

I for one am on board with this decision. I love both Castlevanias in question and I really hate both--well, more Mike than James but I understand the contempt for him as well.

I've never actually beaten Bloodlines. Maybe I'll play that tonight.

>> No.2753793

>>2753772
I'm talking about the only European country that matters, Britain. I don't care about you autistic continentals. And no, the Super Nintendo did not sell as well as the Mega Drive. Stop calling it 'Genesis', too, it shows how young you are.

>> No.2753851

>This whole thread

Sega vs Nintendo stuff is not even funny anymore, not even ironically.

It's 2015, if you still believe stuff like "nintendo is for kids" or "sega only had sports games", you have been meme'd HARD.

>> No.2753906

>>2753793
>britbong thinking his country still matters

How cute :3

>> No.2753950

>>2753851
I don't think that, Nintendo also has story games. I don't like those either.

>> No.2753960

>>2753679

The "Hit after hit" when people talk about the amount ofgreat games on SNES are mostly just JRPG's.

I personally give no shits about JRPG's. SNES' greatest strength does not appeal to me.

>> No.2753964

>>2753960

I love the SNES, but I feel the same way about the PS1.
People treat it as the 2nd coming of christ but I don't like most of the games on it. Didn't back then, still don't now.

I have some favorite games on PS1 (like Ghost in the Shell, which is unique), but most of the "hits" are JRPGs with lots of cutscenes and retarded designs.

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>>2753628

I bought Bloodlines for 20 bucks CIB last year at a thrift store, with Hyperstone Heist CIB for 20 as well.

>> No.2753992

>>2753751

We've all seen the PAL versions of Sonic 1 and Bloodlines, you're not fooling anybody.

>> No.2754008

>>2753992
Those aren't action games. I mean stuff like Mercs and Probotector.

>> No.2754013

>>2753975
Ew, a collector.

>> No.2754019

>>2754008
>probotector

kek, so mature, they won't let you kill humans, just robots.

way to go europe! MATURRRR!

>> No.2754024

>>2754019
I don't think you quite understand what maturity means.

>> No.2754027

>>2754024

I'm pretty sure arguing about whether video games are mature or not is a sign of not being mature, for starters.

>> No.2754029

>>2754013

Nigga I play my games.

>> No.2754030

We must be breaking a shitposting world record with this thread.

>> No.2754117

>>2754027
Refer to my previous post.
>>2754029
Why do you care about their condition, then? I prefer poor condition games because collectors like you drive up prices.

>> No.2754125

>>2754117
>Refer to my previous post.

which one, the one where you pretend a game like Probotector wasn't aimed primarily at 10 year olds? Like most other video games in existence.

>> No.2754126

>>2754013

Yeah, old games should just stay in warehouses and attics instead of being enjoyed. You tell him.

>> No.2754132

>>2754126
Yeah, they should be put in plastic on a shelf so some hipster can feel retro and cool.

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>>2754008
>Probotector

You guys got cucked so badly in the 16-bit era, just stop.

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>>2753679
Daily reminder that SNES hardware is a fucking joke.

>> No.2754163

>>2754158

>cherrypicks one of the best 1st party original games exclusively made for the Mega Drive to an arcade port by Capcom

You're an idiot, but I assume you already know that.

>> No.2754167

>>2753851
>nintendo is for kids

You'd be hard pressed to convince a lot of people it's not. Lots of cartoony characters with bright colors and the censorship of anything even remotely risque really makes it hard to take the company seriously anymore. Not that they're even bad games, but I don't think yarn Yoshi is going to attract a lot of 40 year olds.

>> No.2754169

>>2754158

Is that why the Genesis needed the 32x just to play something comparable to Star Fox?

>> No.2754172

>>2753793
>muh Mega Drive
You don't even have to look outside if this thread to see another example of a shitty PAL name for something.

>> No.2754173

>>2754169
>cherrypicks
Give me another SNES game with 6 enemies on screen, come on i'm waiting.

>> No.2754176

>>2754167

Most video games are for kids, anon.
In reality, Nintendo has always made games for everyone. It's true Mario games are cheerful and cute, but they're universal enough that people of all ages can enjoy them. I remember playing Mario as a kid and lots of older people got hooked, family membes, friend's older brothers, etc.

Same with Mega Drive. If you think blood and gore means something is "not for kids", then I think you had very strict christian parents or something. I was really into Mortal Kombat as a kid because of the BLOOD AND GORE, I loved that shit as a 10 year old. Nowdays I look at it as a more comedy thing.

The only actual "kids only" games are edutainment games. And the only actual "adults only" games... I don't think there exist actual "adults only" games, as in, games that ONLY an adult would enjoy, but I guess all that spreeadsheet simulation stuff could be enjoyed more by adults than kids, unless the kid is severely autistic.

Anything else is for everyone. Sega also had a lot of kiddy stuff (Fantasy Zone, all the Disney games, which are all great by the way!). The reason you perceive nintendo as kiddy and sega as adult is because you ate up all the marketing stuff, you've been meme'd.

>> No.2754178

>>2754169
Virtua Racing didn't need the 32x and it didn't have Starwing's shit framerate.

>> No.2754182

>>2754172
That's also the Japanese name, kid. We're not Christfags so Sega didn't name the console after a Jewish faerie tale here.

>> No.2754185

>>2754173 meant to quote this faggot >>2754163

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>>2754173

And why are you arbitrarily using "enemies on screen" as the only way to measure whether a console is good or not?

Show me a MD game with a color palette as good as this.

>> No.2754192

>>2754187
>shitty fake mode 7 levels
>plagued by slowdowns
>most bosses are static images or slow as fuck
Irrelevant to action games, kindly fuck off.

>> No.2754193

>>2754187

Axelay's spritework is amazing. It looks better than many 32-bit stuff.
And it was an early SNES game. Konami really were wizards.

>> No.2754194

>>2754192

haha, okay anon, keep living your console war fantasy life, I'll be here, enjoying both consoles, as I've been doing since the 90s.

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>>2754193

>> No.2754201

>>2754182
The Japanese name is literally just Vampire Killer, and "New Generation" essentially means the same fucking thing as Bloodlines. The latter is just much more fitting for a Castlevania title, in my opinion.

>> No.2754202

>>2754197

You don't think Konami were amazing, Seinfeld meme guy from 2011?

>> No.2754204

>>2754197
>posting a 2011 meme
>2015

I shiggy my piggy

>> No.2754205

>>2754201

You're arguing with the same PALfag from before. Just ignore him, or laugh at him for playing butchered, censored slowed down versions.

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>>2754202
no I don't think it looks better than 32-bit stuff.

>> No.2754210

>>2754206

The sprites on Axelay look way more detailed than that Darius ship.
Although obviously Darius has better animations.

Also I didn't say Axelay looks better than 32-bit stuff, I said it looks better than many 32-bit stuff. Key word is "many".
Mostly because 32bit used a lot of polygon graphics even in sidescrolling games.

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2754229

>>2754187

>> No.2754317

>>2754229

Turrican has pretty good spritework. Still Axelay's palette is much broader and allows more detail and don't take the challenge seriously. I was just making fun of the other shitposter. SNES has better color palette and MD has faster CPU, nothing new here.

>> No.2754381

>>2752219
You're a shithead and a retard.

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>>2754381

I disagree, you are the one who is retarded and has a head full of shit.

>>2754117

Because if I can help it, I will always take the better taken care of games? Why would I say no to a CIB copy of any game at a reduced price? Do your parents still feed you nigga?

>> No.2754593

>>2754585
Why would you call me a nigger, you faggot?

>> No.2754795

>>2754147
>not liking robots

>> No.2754962

Is Grant supposed to be as OP as he is in Castlevania III? I just played it for the first time today and beat it in a few hours without much challenge (except Death, Death really got a buff from Castlevania I), seemed like Grant could just snipe from a distance and bypass a ton of obstacles with his mobility. Almost felt like cheating when I was using him.

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>>2753975
Well Nigro, i got mine CIB for $6 back in 2011, and unlike you i actually played that shit several times.

and unlike you, i post photos

>> No.2755059

Axelay doesnt have any serious slowdown problem, wtf are you people talking about.
Its biggest issue is that it is quite short.

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>>2755052
Also this

>splatterhouse 3 is $70 loose!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Splatterhouse-3-Sega-Genesis-1993-Cart-Only-Cleaned-Tested-/121785211438?hash=item1c5af6da2e:g:8HkAAOSw9mFWGcio

>mine bought by $2!

>> No.2755076

>>2755059
>40 minutes
>short
You haven't played many shoot 'em ups fam

>> No.2755114

>>2754187
Thunder Force games looked much better esp 4

>> No.2755181

In a way James is the definition of a Nintendo fan.

He says he loves Nintendo, but what he really loves is his childhood and is afraid to move past it completely. He doesn't care about the games themselves what he cares about is his bygone Saturday mornings, sugary cereals and cartoons designed to sell action figures.

>> No.2755182

>>2755052

>watered down port of Turtles in Time

I feel sorry for the sad fucks that grew up with only a Genesis.

>> No.2755184

>>2755181
Sounds about right. The fact he says he's a major Contra fan but never played Operation C until like 2 months ago is just bizarre. He pretty much says the whole reason is because he never played it as a kid, so basically what you said.

>> No.2755239

>>2755182
Both games are mediocre anyway, i feel sorry for the sad fucks nintendrones who never played SoR2/3.

>> No.2755256

>>2755239

I owned both consoles. SoR2=TiT>SoR3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>HH.

>> No.2755264

>>2755256
>SoR2=TiT
>TiT>SoR3
Your tastes are fucking shit fam

>> No.2755480

>>2754585
Nah, you're very much the major shithead in this conversation.

>> No.2755553

>>2755076
yes, but it only has 6 levels.
the vertical levels feel very short.

>> No.2755563

>>2755264
this, turtles is a fucking button masher and if anything HH is better because it plays and controls better. I don't give a fuck about the content if it doesnt handle as well. Throwing guys into the screen is a stupid gimmick anyway

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>>2755052

I posted about this find on /vr/ earlier in the year.

The whole lot was 60 bucks.

Thunderforce II sucks shit,

>> No.2755583

>>2755580
you do have shit taste.

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>>2755583

Maybe someday, you'll get a reply that is geniunely upset anon. Keep at it.

>> No.2755597

>>2755580
Bloodlines > Thunder Force II > Hyperboring beat'emup

>> No.2755602

>>2755597
How is hyper boring beat em up any more boring than boring in time?

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>>2755597

I was in that thread where we talked about TiT and HH

Yes both games are derived from a mediocre game. TiT must have been fucking amazing if you were into TMNT super hard as kid because the presentation of the ARC version is insanely good. I firmly believe that's all that has kept so many nerds today fixated with the idea that TiT is some pinnacle of the genre.

>> No.2755610

>>2755602
They are equally boring, don't fear segafag

>> No.2755612

>>2755605
The only thing that makes TMNT beat em ups good is the TMNT license, gameplay wise they all the same and anyone who says one is the best is just a fanboy. Not telling you just adding to what you said

>> No.2755614

>>2755610
Nah they are both a fun way to kill 20 minutes.

>>2755610
is that supposed to be an insult I will wear that badge with pride. Sega Master Race

>> No.2755626

>>2755605
Yep, it's not that they are bad games, it's just that they are just average.

>> No.2755629 [DELETED] 

>>2747004
>>>/v/314098069

Get in here /vr/fags, we need you

>> No.2755656

>>2754962
Grant really is easy mode. Syfa can be incredibly good too, but she requires more knowledge from the player. I can never play as anyone but Trevor Belmont, though. It feels wrong.

>> No.2755659

>>2755656
I tried using Sypha but I had no clue what to do with her, her mainfire is so awful and I'm not good at getting or keeping the subweapon I want due to being a rushing piece of shit.

Currently taking the Alucard path, he plays alright.

>> No.2755673

>>2755659
It's all about the sub weapons. The flame annihilates bosses like it's nothing. The electricity can be used to trivialize tricky sections like the long stair climb with the bone pillars in the tower. Grant's jump, wall climb and knife are generally more useful, but if you know what you're doing with Syfa, she's devestating.

>> No.2755847

>>2747934
how is it able to do that?

>> No.2755956

>>2755563

It's funny that people shat on the remake of TiT when graphics aside it was literally the same fucking game

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What the fuck people? everyone knows both console are outdated now we have pc to emulate those motherfuckers.
you play everything anytime and with filters to make it look better.

>> No.2756036

>>2747004
why the fuck do they have to shit on every sega game they play?
why do they suck so bad at every game?
why do people keep watching these retards?

>> No.2756056

>>2755956
no its not its actually worse, much worse

>> No.2756085

>>2756034
Fuck off underaged.

>> No.2756094

>>2756036

Because they're nintendo fans. And nintendo fans don't actually understand things or have anything to actually say that's not nintendo dick sucking

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>>2756034
>with filters to make it look better.

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>>2747004
I will never understand the unquestioned love for Castlevania IV, which apparently is their favorite. I prefer III and Rondo.

I watched their playthrough of it, and at every boss fight they were just mashing the whipping button, and yet they still beat most bosses with that strategy.

Do people just like how easy it is?

>> No.2757195

>>2757169
I'm actually playing CV IV right now for the first time.

It's not a bad game but I definitely don't like it as much s III (which I just played for the first time yesterday). The whip is OP, I almost never use my subweapons, your sprite is too big, and the game is VERY sporadic with its difficulty and checkpoints. I just spent an hour on the first section of the level because it went a super long time with a ton of instant death hazards and no checkpoints between any of them, then the rest of the level was a breeze and the boss couldn't touch me because I was stunning him with my whip and destroying his projectiles before they got anyone near me just from the trajectory of my whip. There's also been a level that took a really long time, and the first two thirds were really easy to the point of almost being boring, then suddenly you get to the last third of the level and the difficulty spikes and tiny enemies attack you in multiples to push you off cliffs in vertical segments.

It's still a pretty good game despite that, and there are some levels I loved that challenged me without being bullshit, but I'm not feeling the love and care put into I or III level design-wise.

>> No.2757201

>>2757169
>I will never understand the unquestioned love for Castlevania IV

Because SNES.

>> No.2757223

>>2757169
Well James likes it out of pure nostalgia. He said the NES ones were too hard for him so when he got IV as a kid I imagine it's the first one he ever beat so he's got stars in his eyes for it.

>> No.2757226

>>2757195
If it's the first time you're playing it, you may find the sheer novelty of it enjoyable. For me, every time I play it, it gets worse. I can't help but think it's a bad game. I just don't enjoy it. I find it hard to believe it was made by the same people who made Castlevania III.

>>2757201
SNES was a legendary console though. It's just that it blew chunks when it came to Castlevania. All it got was babby's first Castlevania (IV), and a vastly inferior remake of Rondo Of Blood.

>> No.2757243

>>2757226
>SNES was a legendary console though

something said only by nintendo fags

>> No.2757248

This thread is proof that /vr/ needs to be deleted.

>> No.2757271

>>2757243
Oh, come on.

A Link To The Past? Super Metroid? Yoshi's Island?

Are you really gonna make a case against those behemoths?

>> No.2757293

>>2757271

you where a latchkey kid weren't you.

>> No.2757296

>>2757271
piss easy games and standard kiddy platformers wow im impressed

>> No.2757297

>>2757271

This post is reddit as fuck.

>> No.2757327

>>2757297
>liking good games is reddit

Okay.

>> No.2757358

>>2757296
Let's see you stream Super Metroid then.

>> No.2757383

>>2757297

This reddit meme has become pretty fucking stale anon.

>> No.2757386

>>2757358
Not interested in playing that shit again m8, not a big fan of cinematic final bosses and lame-ass enemy design

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>>2757226
It could be novelty I guess. There are stretches where I'm not having fun, but then I start again, so who knows, maybe I'll have to replay it after I've done all the Classicvania entries in the series to reconsider it.

Also how the fuck do I climb this? I know to hold up to start climbing but I mean this specific stair, when I jump on it I hang for a quarter of a section before I start moving and the stair destroys itself and I fall to my death, nine times out of ten. None of the later stairs in this section are giving me this issue, just this specific one in this screenshot.

>> No.2757534

>>2757226
>babby's first Castlevania


do you realize how much of a flaming faggot you sound like?

>> No.2757540

>>2757534

do you?

>> No.2757559

I made a thread on /v/ about a weird map completion glitch I experienced in Harmony of Dissonance. >>314203079

>implying anyone from /v/ cares and will answer
>implying I shouldn't be allowed to post the thread on /vr/

Fuck you faggots, you know who you are.

>> No.2757563

>>2757534
/vr/'s no better than /v/ at this point, of course he doesn't. Surprised "cuck" has only been used less than a dozen times this thread.

>> No.2757565 [DELETED] 

>>2757559
>>>314203079

>> No.2757569

>>2757248
this thread is a proof that Sonic fans arent the only Sega fans who are a promising field of research for psychiatry.

>> No.2757587

>>2757559
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd the thread is already gone. Thanks a lot rules faggots.

>> No.2757603

>>2757569
Nintendo fans just need more babysitters to put them on timeout when they have temper tantrums tbh

>> No.2757619

>>2757169
>I watched their playthrough of it

Play it, idiot.

This is why we can't discuss videogames in this day and age, people just base their opinions based on e-celeb's opinions, and people are hating IV because disliking what popular e-celebs like means that you have a somewhat more "·obscure" taste or something, fucking hipsters.

Newflash: Bloodlines and Rondo are also easy as shit. The later levels of IV are harder than anything on Bloodlines and Rondo.

If you only care about the games being hard, don't play any of the 16 bit Castlevanias, only play 1 and 3, and if you want to be truly hardcore, only play Haunted Castle, and call all the rest casual garbage, that way you will earn more retro hipster hardcore cred.

>> No.2757621

>>2757226
>and a vastly inferior remake of Rondo Of Blood.

this fucking meme again.

This thread is the fucking worst I've seen on /vr/, no contest. This thread has it all.

Console wars, e-celeb, people talkinh on games they never actually played, only watched on youtube, etc.

Fuck you all, hipsters.

>> No.2757624

>>2757619
None of the Castlevania game are exactly hard, but 4 is just stupid easy and unbalanced. 3 boomerang and the OP whip trivialize anything in the game. Feels like they updated the controls but forgot to update the level design.

>> No.2757628

>>2757624

I dunno, I find Rondo stupidly easy too, but I still enjoy it. I don't play games because they're hard, because I'm not a poser.

>> No.2757635

>>2757624

I don't see how the triple cross and the whip will help you get through the floating platforms at the end of Stage B. Which by the way requires better timing than any other platforming section on Bloodlines or Rondo.

>> No.2757636

>>2757603
You arent actually succeding at looking like a well adjusted individual.
It is crazy how harmful Sega´s 90s marketing was for autistic kids.
They thought buying a product would make them cool, and had no way to mentally process what happened to Sega after the Dreamcast, to the point that they still carry a chip on their shoulders in their middle age.
I wonder if there will be angry men on the internet in 2 decades who miss Ronald McDonald and hate Happy.

>> No.2757643

>>2757636
>It is crazy how harmful Sega´s 90s marketing was for autistic kids.

It's really incredible. I mean, I get that Nintendo (of America) also went full retard a lot of times, and they kinda forced their "family-oriented" image, but all in all, all video games, ESPECIALLY consoles, are mostly aimed at children.

Whenever I see, in fucking 2015, that people use the Mortal Kombat with blood example as of why Sega was more mature than Nintendo, I cringe like fuck.

Sega had fucking Disney-licensed games. And they were great, too. But people will still call Sega more mature than Nintendo because SEGA DOES WHAT NINTENDONTTTTTTTT

The power of memes

>> No.2757662

>>2757563

Even the /vr/ netplay died.
Do anyone know what happened ? i would like to know if some flaming shit flying argument started the downfall of the group and then it died abruptly.

>> No.2757670

>>2757636
nintoddlers have proven themselves time and time again to be much more autistic and degenerate. They just cant get over how shitty their console ended up being with no support after the snes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPJJQHF4tTo

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>>2757662

This is what i'm talking about, just let people understand.

>> No.2757679

>>2757662
I only visited /vr/ Netplay occasionally, whenever I was there people seemed to just hang out and I didn't usually ask if anyone wanted to Netplay since I didn't have any games in mind I wanted to play (I'm more of a kind of guy who plays what other people want to play). Sad to hear it's dead, I never got to play Bomberman with them.

>> No.2757691

>>2757670

single-system peasants are the worst tbh.
idorts are the only ones who should be allowed to discuss videogames online. It should be required that you show proof that you not only owned, but also played many different systems during your childhood to be able to have opinions.

People who only owned a sega, a nintendo or a PC as kids, then emulated a bit on toasters or smartphones, and then go online and voice their fanboy opinions are the worst. Should be turned into soap.

>> No.2757702

>>2757670
At least Sega went out with a bang.

Nintendo on the other hand...
>we didn't realize full hd gaming would be this expensive to produce
>gimmicks after gimmicks
>their consoles' hardware is always outdated
>they keep adding shitty costumes and accessories in most games
>amiibos

>> No.2757714

>>2757670
monthy python did that sketch better...

>> No.2757717

>>2757691
I only grew up with Nintendo and I love a lot of Sega games. I think people who still participate in 25-year-old console wars are just shitty people and giving them both consoles as a kid wouldn't change that. They'd probably just find something else to war about.

>> No.2757719

>>2757702

>actually arguing sega vs nintendo stuff in 2015

you are retarded.

I like Sega, but the way Sega was humilliated after the DC was much worse than anything that happened to Nintendo.

Just stop, you're making Sega fans look bad.

>> No.2757723

>>2757628
>I don't play games because they're hard
I don't either, but when a game lacks challenge it lacks fun too

>>2757635
I get your point, 4's difficulty is mostly in platforming/spikes rather than enemies, which is why i don't like it that much, feels much slower paced compared to the other titles, very few enemies to deal with.

>> No.2757726

>>2753668
>implying it's not a 98.87% a marketing term with a vague connection to a programming technique used in a few games

>> No.2757729

>>2757723

Have you tried playing IV's 2nd loop? It actually adds more enemies on screen, and they have more HP.

It's still not as hard as CV1 or Haunted Castle, but if you really care that much about more enemis on screen, then it might be your thing.

>> No.2757731

>>2757719
>Sega was humilliated after the DC
I'll be honest, I have no idea what you're talking about since I dropped consoles once Sega went out of the console business.

>> No.2757735

>>2757731

You can still see how shitty Sega has turned even if you play on PC. I think the only games they publish that still sell are the Football Manager spreadsheet simulation series.

And Yakuza series, but those only sell in Japan . Yakuza is pretty good though.

>> No.2757739

>>2757729
Yes i did, but honestly i didn't find it much different to the first loop, feels like the enemies design/AI needs more than just a HP buff.

CV1 has similar difficulty to CV4 IMO, but i like it a lot more because it feels more like an action game than a platformer.

>> No.2757762 [DELETED] 

If you look at his face carefully you can see that he is undead (probably vampiric). He's probably far older than the entire electronics industry, let alone any particular video games.

>> No.2757767

I don't get why SCIV gets a lot of shit for feeling like a tech demo for the SNES but Bloodlines seems to get a pass on doing the same thing.

I'm playing it blind right now and there are entire levels that feel like they're just showcasing things they can do on the Genesis for the sake of it, like all the water stuff in level 2 and everything in the leaning tower level.

>> No.2757771

>>2757762

Who are you talking about, Dracula?

>> No.2757782

>>2757767

It's mostly because IV being popular as fuck, and because the Angry Nintendo nerd likes it.
ALso because it's on Nintendo.

So you've good a cocktail recipe for hipster hate:
People who hate popular things will hate on IV.
/v/ kids who are into e-celeb memes will meme-hate it because of the angry nerd.
Nintendo haters will hate it simply because it's on Nintendo.

Both Bloodlines and IV are pretty amazing, although they are both easier than the older 'vanias. People defending Bloodlines by calling IV "too easy" are retarded.

>> No.2757794

I too am getting a little annoyed at how every time they play a Mega Drive game they gotta bring up the Super Nintendo. Every damn time James blurts out
>b-b-b-but Link to the Past!
like a retarded fanboy. Fucking get over it already. You're not twelve anymore, arguing with your childhood friends at the school playground about which video game console your mom bought you. They're both good systems with good games.

I still like Mike and James, they're entertaining. They don't know shit about video games though and they're extremely biased. The sports games talk from the Earthworm Jim video is a great example of how stupid they can be sometimes.

>> No.2757795

>>2747124

They probably don't spend a lot of time at it, except to make videos. They were selected (by the audience) for being entertaining (by the standards of that audience), not for being knowledgeable. It's not their fault that they don't know a lot. They don't pretend to be experts. If their success is a problem, blame YouTube who pays them and the audience who chooses them over people who know more.

>> No.2757817

>>2757782
Nice try tard, but in that case CV3 also would be hated instead of being called god tier, eat shit.

>> No.2757820

>>2751691

Yeah it's the same thing as with Penny Arcade. I've heard it about Game Grumps too, though I don't watch that myself. These guys all move from game to game pretty quickly. They may be deeply invested in the practice of gaming in some sense, but they rarely bother to become deeply invested in any particular games. The product of the gaming industry, regardless of what era the games are taken from, is just a vast buffet to them. They sample one thing; then they sample another. They're too focused on games to be "casual gamers" on the level of somebody's aunt who likes only Candy Crush, but by the standards of players with real skill or deep critical appreciation, they are quite casual. And their first interest usually seems to be the continuation of their e-celebrity, which is understandable since it seems like a fun job for the few people who luck into getting it.

>> No.2757839

>>2757817

>tard

nice projection, anon, nice projection.

The reason people don't fuck with 1 or 3 is because those are universally considered as "hard", as with many NES games, and because people know arguing NES vs Master System won't bring much butthurt (at least on Nintendo fans' part), and Master System didn't even got a Castlevania, so there's not much material you can work with regarding the NES 'vanias, if you hate on the NES 'vanias you risk your online anonymous reputation and people will know you're just an underage poser.

>> No.2757858

>>2757839
Nah it's because NES Castlevanias are legit great games and CV4 was a downgrade that somehow clueless people regarded as the apex of the series.

>> No.2757863

>>2757858

No, what you're saying is a meme.

Bloodlines and Rondo could also be considered a downgrade (in terms of difficulty) compared to the NES ones.

Get over it. Rondo, IV and Bloodlines are all good games.
No matter how hard you try, the "IV is bad because it's easy and AVGN likes it" meme is never going to catch up, it's 20 years too late.

>> No.2757874

>>2757863
It's not that 4 is a bad game, it's just that it's inferior to the others, get over it cuck.

>> No.2757905

>>2757874
>cuck

Yup, we're definitely as bad as /v/. We just need retro LOL threads now.

>> No.2757909

>>2757905
Your fault for defending inferior games.

>> No.2757946

>>2757874

It's not that Rondo and Bloodlines are bad games, it's just that they're inferior to the NES games, get over it [meme].

Seriously, find another hobby, video games is not your thing, your subjective opinions are memestic as fuck, not even worth arguing with specimens like you, even ironically.

>> No.2757947

>>2757946
funny cause you put a lot of effort in your replies you dumb faggot

>> No.2757972

>>2757909

But nobody is defending inferior games.

IV, Bloodlines and Rondo are all great games on their own right.

Stop being stupid, your subjective opinions are worth literal shit, probably even less.

>> No.2757979

>muh superior snes graffix
>shitty mode7 gimmick that looks like pixel vomit
every time

>> No.2757997

Was Bloodlines rushed?
The four bosses dumped into the final level, one of which being a lengthy boss rush and another being Death who usually gets his own stage, alongside Dracula having three forms on his own, is giving me the impression that they had to cut one or two stages.

It could have used some too because there's surprisingly few compared to other games in the series.

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>>2757997
>you will never get to play the nazi zeppelin stage.

>> No.2758108

>>2757997

Sega got butthurt about Nintendo getting all the good shit from Konami so they slapped Bloodlines together in a weekend and shipped it out.

>> No.2758168

this thread has more flaming, shitposting and all around low quality posts than any thread on /v/. Every one of you should feel ashamed of yourselves.

>> No.2758176

>>2758168

Yet you didn't contribute shit and made yourself look like a pretentious asshole.

>> No.2758206

>>2757534
Why are Castlevania IV fans so sensitive?

>>2757619
>Play it, idiot.

Read the post again. I never said I didn't.

>The later levels of IV are harder than anything on Bloodlines and Rondo.

No.

>>2757621

Are you really gonna make the case that Dracula X on the SNES is better than the original Rondo Of Blood? With its butchered mechanics, tedious level design and terrible hitboxes? Really?

It's fine if you like it, but I don't see how anyone could prefer it over Rondo, unless they were nostalgic for it.

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>>2758206
>Why are Castlevania IV fans so sensitive?

I don't see IV fans being sensitive, I just see a lot of people baiting by calling IV bad because subjective, erroneous arguments such as "it's too easy!", so don't expect people not to call out on your bullshit. If you don't like people calling you out ony our faggotry, don't be a faggot.

>No.

Yes. Anyway none of the 16 bit Castlevania are hard, so it's pointless. If you genuinely think Rondo or Bloodlines are hard, then... I dunno, your opinion man.

>Are you really gonna make the case that Dracula X on the SNES is better than the original Rondo Of Blood?

He never said Dracula X is better than Rondo or viceversa. Both games are different, we've been through this in every Castlevania thread made on /vr/ in the past year already. If you call Dracula X a "bad rondo port", you're memeing, simple as that.

>butchered mechanics

you're getting really desperate. What mechanics are "butchered"?

>tedious level design

You didn't like vertical levels? I guess you don't like Castlevania III either, then :)

>terrible hitboxes

Oh look, the same shit AVGN and his friend were saying about Bloodlines. Fuck off.
It's because of shitposters like you who don't know what they're talking about that we can't have good Castlevania threads.

>> No.2758228

Dracula X apologists are the absolute worst.

>> No.2758231

>>2758228

But it's true, nobody can actually come up with actual criticism for Dracula X, it's always the "bad rondo port" meme.

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>>2758231

I liked both Rondo and Drac X.
I think I like Rondo a little bit better because it has more secrets, but I like the art in Dracula X by Terada better than the moe animu designs of Rondo.

>> No.2758282

>>2757863
Hey, here i tought it was because of Egorapturd.

>> No.2758291

>>2758282

Who?

>> No.2758326

>>2758225
>I don't see IV fans being sensitive, I just see a lot of people baiting by calling IV bad because subjective, erroneous arguments such as "it's too easy!", so don't expect people not to call out on your bullshit. If you don't like people calling you out ony our faggotry, don't be a faggot.

If your response to someone criticizing a game is calling them a faggot, you look kinda butthurt.

>Yes. Anyway none of the 16 bit Castlevania are hard, so it's pointless. If you genuinely think Rondo or Bloodlines are hard, then... I dunno, your opinion man.

Never played Bloodlines. Rondo isn't hard, but IV is still easier. IV is one of the easiest games I've ever played. It's up there with Bioshock.

>He never said Dracula X is better than Rondo or viceversa. Both games are different, we've been through this in every Castlevania thread made on /vr/ in the past year already. If you call Dracula X a "bad rondo port", you're memeing, simple as that.

I said it was inferior to RoB, he obviously objected to that, ergo it's either on par with or better than RoB, which I think is baffling.

>you're getting really desperate. What mechanics are "butchered"?

The walking speed is abysmal, the flip is rendered useless, the knife hits as hard as the whip.

>You didn't like vertical levels? I guess you don't like Castlevania III either, then

Castlevania III had a degree of challenge to their vertical sections, where careful timing was essential to success. DX's vertical sections are never challenging, and they just drag on forever, just mindlessly ascending levels of flat platforms. It's the bare minimum of level design.

>:)

Now this is being a faggot.

>Oh look, the same shit AVGN and his friend were saying about Bloodlines. Fuck off.
>It's because of shitposters like you who don't know what they're talking about that we can't have good Castlevania threads.

The hitboxes in DX are terrible. Try fighting Death and do a flip over a sickle, and you'll see what I mean.

>> No.2758339

>>2758326
>If your response to someone criticizing a game is calling them a faggot, you look kinda butthurt.

That's not my response to someone criticizing a game. IV doesn't get criticism, it just gets subjective opinions that most of the time are exaggerated hyperbolic stuff. "IV is not hard as balls, therefore it SUCKS! people who like IV are casual babbies!", etc, etc.

In my opinion, Rondo is easier than IV. What are you going to do about my own subjective opinion? The difference is I don't go around calling Rondo "babby's first classicvania", even if I think it is.

>I said it was inferior to RoB, he obviously objected to that, ergo it's either on par with or better than RoB, which I think is baffling.

He didn't object at you calling it "inferior" to Rondo. Nobody cares what you, personally, think. The problem is that you still claim DX is a "port" of Rondo, when they're 2 different games. It seems you have played it (or at least watched a full LP), so I don't get how you still think DX is a port. Might as well say SOTN is a Rondo port.

>> No.2758342

FINALLY this turd of a thread reached bump limit.

>> No.2758364

>>2758339
>That's not my response to someone criticizing a game. IV doesn't get criticism, it just gets subjective opinions that most of the time are exaggerated hyperbolic stuff.

Most criticism is subjective. Getting hung up over what's subjective or not is redundant.

>In my opinion, Rondo is easier than IV. What are you going to do about my own subjective opinion?

Nothing.

>The difference is I don't go around calling Rondo "babby's first classicvania", even if I think it is.

I wouldn't mind if you did. I would disagree, but I wouldn't be offended.

I don't see how you can possibly think IV is harder than Rondo. 90% of the bosses in IV can be beaten by spamming the whip. Try beating any boss in Rondo with that tactic. It can't be done.

>Nobody cares what you, personally, think.

Yeah right. If no one cared, people wouldn't be so assblasted when I speak my mind about a game they like. If you didn't care, you wouldn't even bother replying to me.

>The problem is that you still claim DX is a "port" of Rondo, when they're 2 different games. It seems you have played it (or at least watched a full LP), so I don't get how you still think DX is a port. Might as well say SOTN is a Rondo port.

I never said it was a port, I said it was a remake, which it unquestionably is. Same story, same controls, same graphics (sorta), same soundtrack, and same enemies.

>> No.2758370

>>2758364
You know you don't have to read the posts ITT if you don't like what they are saying, right?

>> No.2758374

>>2758342
Wrong post. This >>2758370 was for you.

>> No.2758376

>>2758364
>I don't see how you can possibly think IV is harder than Rondo. 90% of the bosses in IV can be beaten by spamming the whip. Try beating any boss in Rondo with that tactic. It can't be done.

Yeah, you can just ITEM CRASH and be done with most of them.

Also, Castlevania is more than just the bosses, you know?

But if we talk about bosses, what do you think about Rondo's Dracula fight?

>If you didn't care, you wouldn't even bother replying to me.

Nobody cares, this thread is Castlevania shitposting central. The reason I'm posting here is because I'm willing to see how far Castlevania shitposting can go, as a sort of experiment.

>I never said it was a port, I said it was a remake

It's neither a port or a remake. The VC version of Rondo of Blood is a port. The PSP "Dracula X Chronicles" game is a remake.
Dracula X is its own game, it uses the setting and story of Rondo, but it's heavily different from the get go. On the very first level there's medusa heads already, and the whole level (save for the very first part) is different. Even the first boss on DX is nowhere to be seen on Rondo.

>> No.2758408

>>2758376
>Yeah, you can just ITEM CRASH and be done with most of them.

No, you can't. Rondo is a lot more stingy with hearts compared to earlier entries. It's a lifeline, but you can't rely on it.

>Also, Castlevania is more than just the bosses, you know?

Sure, but bosses should be difficulty spikes. Also, name me one thing in IV which is challenging that isn't an instant death trap.

>But if we talk about bosses, what do you think about Rondo's Dracula fight?

Okay, I do agree that Dracula, while having fantastic presentation, is a pretty damn easy final boss. However, right before him you fight Shaft's ghost, which is easily harder than anything in IV.

>Nobody cares, this thread is Castlevania shitposting central. The reason I'm posting here is because I'm willing to see how far Castlevania shitposting can go, as a sort of experiment.

You can't do that. You can't participate in a discussion, and then just turn around and say that you're just shitposting. Once you do that, you're pretty much forfeiting the argument.

>It's neither a port or a remake. The VC version of Rondo of Blood is a port. The PSP "Dracula X Chronicles" game is a remake.
Dracula X is its own game, it uses the setting and story of Rondo, but it's heavily different from the get go. On the very first level there's medusa heads already, and the whole level (save for the very first part) is different. Even the first boss on DX is nowhere to be seen on Rondo.

It's a remake. It doesn't have to be a screen for screen remake to count as a remake.

Are you gonna make the case that The Ring isn't a remake of Ringu, just because it isn't screen for screen accurate?

>> No.2758413

CV1: 8.5
CV2: 5.5
CV3: 9.0
CV4: 8.0
RoB: 8.5
Bloodlines: 8.5
Dracula X: 7.5
CVA: 6.0
CVA2: 7.0

What do you think of my hot opinions fellow shitposters?

>> No.2758431

>>2758413
5/10

>> No.2758439

>>2758408

>No, you can't.

You can, even more if using Maria (in fact if using maria, just spam the dragon).
Also bosses in Rondo aren't even as hard as you make them out to be, most of them are dead AI. The only ones I can think that are somewhat fun to fight are werewolf, minotaur... not much else. The rest can also be killed by spamming whip.

>Also, name me one thing in IV which is challenging that isn't an instant death trap.

What's challenging and what's not depends on the player.

I don't find anything on Rondo particularly challenging.

but I guess Slogra, since you like bosses.

>However, right before him you fight Shaft's ghost, which is easily harder than anything in IV.

I don't remember dying at Shaft's ghost, ever.

>It's a remake. It doesn't have to be a screen for screen remake to count as a remake.

Dracula X is not a Rondo remake. I'm surprised you still think it is given you, apparently, have played it.

I'd be fine with calling it a "remix", but it isn't exactly a remix either, since it has original content not found in Rondo (again, the first boss, Cerberos, is nowhere to be seen in Rondo, most of the levels except the first one are new, and the first level is completely different from the Rondo level).

>> No.2758587

>>2758413
I'm the anon who played III and IV for the first time this week, just rating the games I've played.

CV1: 9.0
CV2: 3.0 (though I quit like halfway through, just pointing that out in case this invalidates my opinion for anyone)
CV3: 10.0 (not that it's a perfect game, just using 10.0 as the "best" and the rest being measured relative to that)
CV4: 7.0

1 is good but short and had the best bosses, 2 has a ton of issues that I don't think I need to discuss, 3 is great, the multiple characters feel great, a ton of levels, the bosses are easy but it's the best so far. 4's good but it doesn't feel that Castlevania-y due to how great and free the whip is, the bosses are even easier (holy shit Dracula did you just wake up from your nap and were still tired? You were a pushover) and some of the levels just felt "loose" for lack of a better term compared to 1 and 3. There were definitely some really good levels though. The thread will probably 404 before I play and finish Rondo, which is probably for the best considering this thread has been absolute garbage. I hope the next Castlevania thread isn't nearly this bad.

>> No.2758841

>>2753738
It's not true at all. I saw one Sega console here in my entire life and never heard anyone talk about anything but Nintendo and Sony plus computer games.

>> No.2760932

>>2758841
>Sony
Because you're too young to remember Sega's dominance of the home console market.