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Do you like Super Mario Bros. 2, /vr/? Am I weird for liking it, especially the All-Stars version, more than SMB 3? Not by a lot, and I don't think it's objectively a better game, but given the choice I would rather replay SMB 2 than SMB 3.

I think there's something special about how SMB 2's worlds are built and is not common in other games. There's a lot of vertical movement, which the scrolling somehow makes more fun, not less, and it feels a little more exploration-centric than SMB 3 thanks to the keys mechanic.

By the way, if you know more games that to you feel like SMB 2, please do tell.
>inb4 Doki Doki Panic

>> No.2746907

>>2746905
Shit, I fucked up the spoiler tags. Sorry.

>> No.2746924

>>2746905
I like SMB2 a heck of a lot more than every other SMB game. But I'm weird in that I'm not a fan of them in general.

>> No.2746927

Its actually my favorite NES Mario.

>> No.2746928
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2746928

Not at all OP. I really like Super Mario Bros. 2/ Doki Doki Panic's style of gameplay period. It's just fun to pick up fucking everything and just slam shit into other shit.

Plus, The All-Stars version of SMB2 has really cool detailed backgrounds for the worlds.

Finally, I think DDP just fits better as a Mario game anyway. Even in Japan DDP is fuckin obscure as shit.

>> No.2746929 [DELETED] 

>SMB2

NOT RETRO
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>> No.2746934

>>2746924
>I'm not a fan of them in general.
That's understandable. At the time it wasn't so clear but now SMB 2 feels like a gaiden game -- related to the series but different enough to be its own thing (not terribly surprising given its origins).

You can imagine an alternative universe where SMB 2 defined the direction for the rest of the series. In that universe Super Mario Bros is now something like a Metroidvania-light.

>> No.2746936

>>2746929
Did you get called out elsewhere for posting something that legitimately wasn't within the years covered by this board?

>> No.2746937

>>2746905
not at all.

I don't share your opinion as I like 3 more, but Mario 2 is a whole different experience and I am saddened that they never made another Mario like it.

Those levels where there were spikes and you had to ride an enemy over the spikes, or that one level where it was you and a birdo with a huge gap in front of you, and you had to wait until it spit out an egg so you could ride the egg over the large gap...

none of this was ever in any new Mario game since and that's sad.

What about climbing up a huge waterfall and finding a whole world above the clouds above?

Jumping around a sea filled with giant whales that shot water up that you could ride?

Riding that albatoss in that one desert level 6-2 where there was basically no ground, just a huge hole?

Going inside dar pyramids and digging underground to find tunnels?

None of the other Mario games match experiences like this. Every other mario game is a very standard experience of going in and out of pipes and destroying blocks and stomping on enemies, and that's nice, but I really liked how Mario 2 kept it fresh and had so many different ideas.

In a time when New Super Mario Bros Wii is basically the same as New Super Mario Bros. DS and WiiU, and now Mario maker is the same as well, adding some SMB2/Doki Doki elements would really bring some much-needed variety to new Mario Games

also

WHERE IS MY SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 LEVEL EDITOR IN MARIO MAKER, NINTENDO?

>> No.2746938

>>2746929
What?

>> No.2746942

>>2746936
>>2746938
I'm just making fun of those faggots who keep spamming NOT RETRO NOT RETRO shit when they don't want to have a proper discussion. Annoys doesn't it?

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>>2746929

>> No.2746951
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2746951

>>2746905
>2746905
I think the best memory of SMB 2 for me was ice level with the whales. Being able to ride the water they shoot out was fuckin cool as hell.

I really wish Nintendo had brought back the style of graphics from SMB2 for Mario Maker, but that would be suggesting they can actually think in this day and age.

>> No.2746952

>>2746942
You acting like a retard doesn't annoy anyone, it just makes us laugh at you. You're literally acting extra stupid just so strangers will be mean to you. That's hilariously lame.

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>>2746942

>> No.2746956

>>2746942
Don't spread it, anon.
>>2746905
>and is not common in other games
It looks like I can't produce fully formed sentences today, either. Sorry again. What I meant to write, I swear, was "and it's not commonly found in other games".

>> No.2746964

>>2746952
Really? Because I got a couple of replys, I wouldn't be so sure
>>2746953
Someone was going to post that eventually, when they run out of arguments and shit, you know
>>2746956
Faggots already spread it through this shithole a long time ago, you are a bit too late for the party, "anon".

>> No.2746970

>>2746951
>dat aspect ratio
Yeah, the whales and the rockets in that level made it the most memorable in the whole game. The final tower is a close second for me, though.

>> No.2746972

>>2746970
Get triggered, fucking retard, you get used to shit like that after a couple of minutes, but if you have to be a retard about it then so be it, make it hilarious though.

>> No.2746983

>>2746905
My favorite Mario game, even though it's not mario. The music is great.

>>2746942
Shouldn't you be posting interracial or furry porn on /v/ right now?

>> No.2746986

>>2746972
>>2746964
>>2746942
>>2746929
Having a bad day?

>> No.2746987

>>2746951
>Stretching squares into rectangles.

The horror. Reminds me of an ex-girlfriend who was completely unable to configure her TV properly.

>> No.2746994

>>2746983
You should be ending your life right now, that's a fact.
>>2746986
No, apparently you are though, if you get triggered by the simplest things, btw one of those is not me kek.

>> No.2746997

>>2746987
Another one getting triggered, my fucking sides, get rekt, son, that's how you play retro shit because it's usually terribad.

>> No.2747000

>>2746937
>that one level where it was you and a birdo with a huge gap in front of you, and you had to wait until it spit out an egg so you could ride the egg over the large gap...
The flying shell jumping in SMW was kind of an echo of that.

>> No.2747005

>>2747000
Wasn't that 3? SMW was dolphins, if I recall.

>> No.2747075

I've always loved SMB2, it's a great game.

>> No.2747080

>>2746937
Completely this. Though I wasn't a fan of the dark-world-door mushroom life thing, since you had to know where it was ahead of time in later levels. Other than that, it had a lot of refreshing things.

>> No.2747086
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2747086

When I was 5 SMB2 is one of the few early games I played where certain parts filled me with actual dread.

The high tension music right before a birdo match caused me to lose more than the actual difficulty

The flying carpet sections gave me vertigo

I would try and find a way around dungeons to avoid its dangers

and of corse pic related

For me it was the first survival horror

>> No.2747098

>>2746905
It's not weird to like that Mario Bros. The most OP. It's definitely not the most popular one, but it's plenty of people's favorite, myself included.

One thing that's cool about each Mario game on the NES is that each sequel does feel like an expansion on all the stuff that came before, but doesn't necessarily make the games that came before feel obsolete. Each game does have its own appeal and sense of personality, so it's easy to see why someone would like just about any entry the most.

As far as recommendations similar to Mario 2 go, the game is pretty unique. You may want to check out the Chip & Dale game on NES. I've barely played it myself, so maybe someone else can vouch for wether or not it should be compared to Mario 2. It is a platformer that involves picking up items, carrying them over your head and throwing them at enemies though, so they at least have that in common.

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2747104

>>2746905
Yes OP, you're weird for liking an extremely popular game people frequently talk about on this board.

>> No.2747406

SMB2 has the comfiest enemy designs

>> No.2747498

>>2746937
>WHERE IS MY SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 LEVEL EDITOR IN MARIO MAKER, NINTENDO?

Can you just imagine what kind of incredible things you could do with the toolset from Super Mario Bros. 2?

Flying carpets
digging in sand
riding on enemies to cross gaps
stackable mushroom blocks

Nintendo is the king of missed opportunities with that game

>> No.2747505

>>2747498
It'll be out next year for $15 (plus tax because Nintendo.)

>> No.2747507

Is there a list of all the differences between the Famicom/NES versions of those games, and the All Star Version?

>> No.2747520

>>2747498
Nintendo trades on nostalgia instead of quality these days. If they were capable of making anything new people would think of something other than "mario" when they hear Nintendo. They used to think Zelda as well back in the N64 days. They don't anymore.

>> No.2747662

>>2746905
You're not alone in this.

>> No.2747671

>>2747498
Just make a fan editor that can do it, and in 10 years they'll implement that feature in the latest bi-yearly Mario maker release.

>> No.2748283

>>2746905
>Doki Doki Panic

This is a common misconception, the game was actually called "Dream factory" and Doki Doki Panic was a subtitle.

Technically you'd call it "Dream Factory: Heart-Bursting panic!"

>> No.2748285

>>2746928
>Even in Japan DDP is fuckin obscure as shit.

This is because it was an event game for Fuji TV's street festival.

>> No.2748298

>>2746905
Did you know this game was called donkey kong picnic in japan?

>> No.2748310

>>2747498

I think it's exactly because of those features that they aren't included in. It's too different from the rest of the super mario games. Mario maker allows you to change the game while retaining stage layouts, which wouldn't work for a SMB2 stage.
There's also the option for using different characters which aren't available/usable for the other super mario games.

>> No.2748319

>>2746905
I enjoy a good playthrough of SMB2. What I dislike is getting the urge to do it with even character usage because I greatly dislike playing as Toad.

>> No.2748327

>>2747098
>Chip & Dale
which is best played co-op

kinda i wish smb2 (also smb3 and smw) allows it as well.

>> No.2748334

>>2748310
Imagine if you could use the Princess in SMB1 or 3, or even SMW.
Dat gliding. Fuck yeah.

>> No.2748343

>>2748283
>Heart-Bursting
More like "Heartthrob(bbing) Panic", no?

>> No.2748364

>>2748343
I like to imagine it would have been renamed Pulse Pounding Panic in the states.

>> No.2748408

>>2746905
Do you want to here more bad taste? Because here it comes!

I like the voices in the GBA version.

>This is as far as you go.
>Just what I needed!
>Leave it to me!

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2748434

>>2746951

>> No.2748439
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2748439

>>2748283
Doki Doki Panic is clearly more accentuated in the box art though. "Dream Factory" is something of a pre-subtitle.

See the little text in blue? That's "Dream Factory". The big red text with a yellow explosion behind it is "Doki Doki Panic"

>> No.2748460

>>2747498
>digging in sand
>stackable mushroom blocks
Underrated mechanic.

>> No.2748463

>>2748334
People say the princess is easy mode, and she kind of is, but playing as her is more fun than any other character even if it is too easy. Floating > the common double jump.

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>>2748439
Yeah, it's the same deal with Zelda.

>> No.2748907
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2748907

Why.

>> No.2748912

>>2748907
Remind me what you do before you get there. Maybe there's no boss to not tire player after a long digging gauntlet.

>> No.2750843

>>2746937
Never looked at it this way. Now I need to replay it.

>> No.2750869

Really liked 2. definitely on my list.

>> No.2751386

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNIY2Z5T8Jc

Best version or second best version?

>> No.2751389

>>2746924
this
and actually the Super Mario games turned me off of platformers in general for a while.

>> No.2751393

>>2746934
>You can imagine an alternative universe where SMB 2 defined the direction for the rest of the series
it kind of did to an extent, all the later mario games take elements from it.

>> No.2751398

>>2751389
Do you think you can explain what you didn't like about them? Genuinely curious why someone wouldn't like Mario.

Besides the New Super Mario Bros games, because those are tepid garbage.

>> No.2751406

>>2746905
>more games that to you feel like SMB 2
I have found one fairly recent title like that, FiNCK. However, it's a lot more of a puzzle game than Super Mario Bros. 2.

>> No.2751416

>>2751386
Why didn't they scale the enemies like that in Super Mario Maker?

>> No.2751967

>>2748912
I don't remember if that is the level but it might be the one where the hawk head comes to life and attacks you? And if you kill it in the wrong place the mouth might open in a place you can't walk into it leaving the game unwinnable.

>> No.2752037

>>2748907

for dramatic build up. throughout the game, you get used to the hawk heads as a safe exit, then suddenly one comes to life and attacks you. it's spooky as fuck because it violates the sense of logic and rapport you had with the game. it also lets you know that now it's for real, Wart awaits you. the hawk head knows he's guarding Wart, so he's more hardcore than the rest.

>>2751967
yes that's the level, and you need to do dungeon crawling and bring a key from a birdo to get there. and the game doesn't become unwinnable - if you don't go in the hawk head right away, it closes and fights again, and you have to hit it another 3 times.

>> No.2752574

>>2751967
>And if you kill it in the wrong place the mouth might open in a place you can't walk into it leaving the game unwinnable.
Does that actually happen? It's never happened to me.

>> No.2752581

>>2752574
No. The head can't be placed in such a way that it both intersects a wall yet can also be damaged.

And even if it were, as the previous anon said, it reanimates after several seconds if you don't (or can't) enter it.