That game you think is pefect that no one else seems to have played

[Anonymous No.2746425]

We all have one. That game you love to death and no matter how much you praise it most people don't seem to get it the way you do.

Shiren is mine. Charming as all fuck but balls to the wall hard. Even with an official English release finally out there it's largely ignored.

What's yours /vr/?

[Anonymous No.2746440]

Shiren series is/was popular in Japan, they just never brought them over to the west.
Shiren 2 on the N64 is also pretty good, you should check it out.

[Anonymous No.2746443]

>>2746425
everyone who has any decent taste knows about Shiren and will probably agree that its the best console roguelike around

you must talk to a lot of shit-tier plebs

[Anonymous No.2746447]

>>2746440
Well the DS port they brought over was made easier but is still pretty great. It didn't sell very well though. Perhaps I will give the N64 one a shot. The Wii game was pretty awful.

Mostly ChunSoft is making Pokemon and other Mystery Dungeon games these days which have been pretty meh.

[Anonymous No.2746452]

>>2746425
Superman 64 on N64. It's truly the most astonishing game ever. No one seems to have played it though.

[Anonymous No.2746453]

>>2746443
Even around these parts barely anyone has actually beaten it. /vr has a very small population of people interested in Roguelikes to start with, but still.

[Anonymous No.2746482]

Chaos Seed. The translation is pretty recent, and few actually know it exists. Partially due to just how unique it is.

[Anonymous No.2746489]

>>2746425
Shiren is pretty much the best japanese Roguelike, though I suggest you to check Milandra, it's not as good as Shiren but it's bretty gud and has some nice NPC mechanics and really cute spoopy sprites, imagine a horror movie clichestorm mixed with Shiren.

[Anonymous No.2746504]

All the games I think are perfect are ones that everyone else has played. Perfect games usually get recognized.

[Anonymous No.2746509]

>>2746452

>Superman 64 on N64. It's truly the most astonishing game ever. No one seems to have played it though.

mfw trying not to fall for such horrific bait

[Anonymous No.2746552]

>>2746504
Hows it feel to be born generic? Something is perfect because it appeals entirely to your own very specific tastes, not anyone elses.

[Anonymous No.2746604]

Is the DS remake of Shiren better or should I just stick with the original?

[Anonymous No.2746614]

>>2746604
The DS port is slightly easier, but they're both still very challenging and fun. If you're already playing the original I wouldn't worry about switching over, but the translation is quite charming.

[Anonymous No.2746616]

>>2746552
how's it feel to be such a special snowflake that your taste is completely different from everyone else on the planet?

[Anonymous No.2746623]

Genpei Toumaden.
Best platformer of the 80's
One of the greatest Namco games ever
And by far the most badass feudal era Japan game

[Anonymous No.2746629]

>>2746509
You guys give it a hard time but it really was a great game.

[Anonymous No.2746752]

>>2746425
Why was it hard? I'd give it a try but I don't have time for my balls to get crushed at the moment.

[Anonymous No.2746767]

Kaze Kiri is one of the best action games I played, I don't remember how I found it.

Armadillo for the nes is a platformer pretty original for the time, it was a fun game

Denjin Makai 2 is the best beat em up I played on mame, I can't decide if between this and Street Of Rage 2

[Anonymous No.2746785]

I love Ultima IV, and am aware that it is almost universally recognized as a great classic RPG, but literally none of my IRL friends have played it. Feels bad man.

[Anonymous No.2746827]

I immensely enjoyed Uprising - Join or Die but it seems to be completely forgotten over time.

It did get a sequel, though, but it simplified some mechanics (for example, buildings could only be destroyed by certain units while in the sequel you can even blow them up with you puny main gun) and made it less fun.

[Anonymous No.2746834]

>>2746752
It's a roguelike and they're hard by design. It's sort of like a little RPG, you're going through 25 floors of a dungeon each with different enemies and as you go along you collect items and weapons. The hitch is that the dungeon layout and items change every time you play, and if you die you loose everything starting back at the beginning. Tough, but very entertaining games.

>>2746425
OP you might want to check out the roguelikes general. There's a better chance they've played that game there. >>>/vg/119487319

[Anonymous No.2746850]

>>2746425
I'm not a huge fan of the post-game dungeons but the normal game is tons of fun, especially because it expects you to die and gives you mechanics to improve later playthroughs, whether it's through offloading good gear/stat booster items in storage, unlocking the fusion pot, getting the food staff through one of the questlines, or unlocking new companions.

[Anonymous No.2746896]

>>2746440
Speaking of Shiren 2, PJ64 seems to erase my saves every time I try to save and quit. Is there any way to fix that?

[Anonymous No.2746902]

Thief Gold. Everyone bitches about how some of the missions are too hard, but fuck you. Get a sense of direction, the game is perfect, you easily lost nimrods.

[Anonymous No.2746915]

>>2746850
Same here, I went through some of the post game stuff but compared to the main game it doesn't hold up as well. I love the companions. The way that in the beginning they're all so horrible, but as time goes on they become super useful. Even though they inevitably always die somewhere along the way. I don't think I've ever finished a game with them still alive.

>>2746834
Ehhh, I find the people over at the roguelike general pretty annoying on the whole. It's almost 24/7 DCSS and PCB despite almost none of them beating either.

I tried asking them about Powder at one point and got back that the food system was too complicated and that having to be careful about not attacking everything in sight and avoiding over leveling was "terrible game design".

Then someone referred to Ido Yehieli as a casual, I laughed and haven't gone back since. So many generals are like that, it's very odd.

[Anonymous No.2747484]

>>2746447
The box art for the DS port localization might have something to do with it's sales...

[Anonymous No.2747491]

>>2746915
Former /rlg/ here, can confirm its been a shithole for a long time. It was great when Dicks and Bastard (clever named folk) were inspiring lots of OC, DCSS wasn't the only thing played (And DCSS was actually good). For a long while now its been a couple of socially deficient people arguing over practically nothing and playing DCSS with a FOTM that usually switches between Elona and Nethack, or at least last I was there. I now get my RL talk by introducing friends to them and slowly getting them addicted like crackheads.

[Anonymous No.2748413]

>>2746482
Next step, translating the Saturn version.
>>2743550

Daiku no Gensan is way to obscure.

[Anonymous No.2748518]

>>2747491
It was super painful. Someone I think from around here asked for some Powder tips because I asked if anyone there played it.

I was describing how it's pretty hard and the enemies level with you, so one of the keys to winning is being careful about what you attack and what you avoid. (this guy was getting wrecked by bats which are fast but non-aggressive and best left alone)

Then they started talking about how that is terrible game design. Literally not having mindless level grinding and murder everything in sight is terrible game design. I felt embarrassed for them just reading the thread.

>>2747484
The game seems forever cursed to have hideous box art. Which is weird considering the game itself has such a nice look.

[Anonymous No.2748524]

>>2748518
Not that anon, but I almost actually got shiren on DS when I saw an ad for it in Nintendo Power. The cover made it seem like a generic jrpg though, I wish I would have known it was a good roguelike

[Anonymous No.2748539]

>>2748524
That's sad. Bad art and poor descriptions in ads have doomed many games. Now at least you know if you see it in a bargain bin somewhere.

[Anonymous No.2748563]

>>2748518
>The game seems forever cursed to have hideous box art.
Not really.

[Anonymous No.2748564]

>>2748563
Now you're breaking my heart, thanks anon. If only the NA box looked like that...

[Anonymous No.2748641]

Wrecking crew on NES. I had gotten SMB 1 & 3 for my NES as a kid and played it all the time. My mom called me from work one afternoon saying she bought me a Mario game because she knows I like them.

Being a kid with a mom who knows nothing about video games I was super excited immediately guessing she got me SMB2.

She came home with Wrecking Crew, and of course you have to do the "Oh...thanks mom."- thing to not be a jerk when your mom tried to do something nice.

So I play it to make her feel fulfilled...and although I initially thought it was like some bootleg game (again me, pre internet as a child, plus it wasn't in box or anything), kinda liked it. It was no SMB but the music was great and it was a fun lil game.

Thanks mom. You're the best

[Anonymous No.2748646]

>first RPG game that i've played.

[Anonymous No.2748675]

>>2748646

though mine was Alundra, I'd say you picked a DAMN GOOD starting point.

[Anonymous No.2748681]

>>2748675
nah, it was ok but the weakest of the series (4 excepted)

Mine was Wild Arms 1 btw.

[Anonymous No.2748683]

>>2748681

I dunno what you mean man.

Maybe I lack frame of reference because I played the first two and the remake of the first one on ps2.

I preferred two over the first one.

The rotating camera was a nice touch. Not saying that's WHAT made it better though.

[Anonymous No.2748689]

>>2748646
Is that a jewstar she's wearing?

[Anonymous No.2748690]

>>2748675
>Alundra
>RPG
And the second RPG you played was Zelda, right?

[Anonymous No.2748706]

>>2748690
That's a stupid thing to troll over. You obviously get what they were talking about and neither was being a dick, so did you figure you had to come along and fill that role?

[Anonymous No.2748715]

>>2748690

Oh, pipe down, cunt.

You don't like Alundra, that's your problem. Dragoon was next.
I'm sorry if it chaps your ass that it wasn't FF7 or some bullshit.

[Anonymous No.2748718]

>>2748689
>this nigga doesn't know about the seal of solomon

[Anonymous No.2748749]

>>2746425
>no one else seems to have played
>pic of someone else playing the game
I don't even. There simply are no games that no one else has played sport. This shit has been around since before you were born.

[Anonymous No.2748753]

>>2748749
Did you forget to read the word "seems" in that sentence? The intention, which most people understood was to talk about games you think are great but that very few people seem to have played or talked about.

You didn't honestly think OP wanted the topic limited to games that literally no one else anywhere had ever played, did you? Of course not. You just want to look for reasons to act like a pedantic asshole anywhere you can.

[Anonymous No.2748843]

San Francisco Rush for the N64 received really poor reviews for having unrealistic automobile handling and general physics. The reviewers seemed to be comparing it to an auto sim such as Gran Turismo. However, the game was actually designed around a basis of exploration where you needed to find ways to take your vehicle on insane & precise jumps through narrow crevices between buildings and land on your wheels in order to discover hidden areas. The idea is to learn the game's physics, such as the exact right angle at which to take jumps so that your vehicle will land properly. If you're slightly off, then your vehicle may roll on landing, at which case there's roughly a 50/50 chance it will land on its tires (and you live and get to explore the area you discovered) or that it will land on its roof (and you die and get taken back to the regular track).

They did something else I liked in contrast to Gran Turismo: not licensing actual car models (while basically still plagiarizing familiar models such as classic VW Beatles and Chevy Camaros). The upshot is that the cars take visual damage from collisions. The game was rich in visual damage gradients to all parts of the vehicle, and it was fun to try & get the most damage possible without exploding. There must've been a hidden HP level. Although the game had no health bar, if your car was badly damaged, then a light collision that wouldn't normally result in an explosion, could easily cause an explosion.

The OST was also heavily criticized, but I found the tracks positively memorable, particularly this gem

https://youtu.be/fm0Mg0T2Sl0?list=PLsU9MbvAi4kO8CiQgKUvIAGiQ0BV8l8oP

[Anonymous No.2748869]

>>2746425

I loved Shiren the Wanderer. Got the DS version and enjoyed the shit out of that. It was my first of those roguelike type of games and I wouldn't have it any other way.

[Anonymous No.2748870]

>>2748843
>The reviewers seemed to be comparing it to an auto sim such as Gran Turismo. However, the game was actually designed around a basis of exploration where you needed to find ways to take your vehicle on insane & precise jumps

So many reviewers are terrible for this. Giving low points to a game because it wasn't going for what they wanted.

[Anonymous No.2748898]

>>2748681

Lilka is Love, Lilka is life.

[Anonymous No.2748993]

>>2747491
Yeah, it's been a shithole for a while. Do they even do tournaments anymore? I have such fond memories of loli_catgirls with Implo, Broco, Sar, Dicks, Bastard....

[Anonymous No.2749010]

>>2748993
>Do they even do tournaments anymore?
Does half the thread rolling phase warriors and all splatting count as a tournament? Then yes. Otherwise nope.

[Anonymous No.2749041]

>>2746425
Honestly, the Super Mario series is great. There are a lot of great Mario titles. I'm not baiting.

[Anonymous No.2749050]

>>2748843
>>2748870
That's hilarious. My brother and I would rent this and play it with our friends all the time because it was obviously ridiculous and had huge jumps and shit.

[Anonymous No.2749065]

pros:
>great music
>dungeons are fun, a combination of puzzles/traps/platforming along with combat
>variety of weapons, swords, axes, ball&chain, bow, boomerang, you can steamroll enemies if you choose the right weapon for each situation
>a lot of magic abilities
>you can use special items to summon fairies that help you in various ways
>kick ass American cover

cons:
>could be longer
>english translation sucks
>plot isn't very interesting (maybe because of the translation)
>your character always looks the same despite equipping different armor
>menu/shop navigation sucks


This game had potential for a sequel or something with harder puzzles and dungeons.

[Anonymous No.2749417]

>>2748753
Yeah I saw it and new some sperglord was going to whiteknight over it. Continue enjoying shitthreads about whatever some LP faggot just played.

[Anonymous No.2749428]

>>2746440
>Shiren 2 on the N64 is also pretty good, you should check it out.
is it playable to people that do not know japanese?
Really I wish some one would make translations for the rest of that series. Inb4 some one tells me that I'm entitled scum for wanting something.

[Anonymous No.2749431]

>>2749065
I would also say the art style of the game is pretty ugly, it's still a fun game regardless though. Also, in the case of this game, I don't really think the text and plot is really that important since it's essentially a zelda clone. LTTP didn't really have the best translation or plot in the world either.

[Anonymous No.2749446]

>>2746453
how exactly do you know how many people on this board has beaten ANY game? Why is that even a measure of if people have enjoyed it not? Also I see this game popping up all the time.

[Anonymous No.2749450]

>>2746453
>Chaos Seed
I tried to like that game, I really really did, but it's just too painfully slow and autismo for me

[Anonymous No.2749452]

>>2749450
meant to respond to >>2746482

[Anonymous No.2749456]

>>2748715

What he meant is that Alundra isn't a fucking RPG

[Anonymous No.2749468]

Been plying through the genesis version of Psy-O-Blade and enjoying it even though the translation isn't exactly perfect and it's quite primitive as far as these sort of games go.

[Anonymous No.2749470]

>>2749456
it's an action RPG, so yes it is

[Anonymous No.2749472]

Been plying through the genesis version of Psy-O-Blade and enjoying it even though the translation isn't exactly perfect and it's quite primitive as far as these sort of games go.

[Anonymous No.2749495]

>>2747484
jesus christ, why? it looks like the artwork for an 80s NES game.

[Anonymous No.2749553]

>>2746425
Conflict for the NES.

Probably the best console strategy game ever.

Fucking love that game, still play it on my phone with an emulator once in awhile.

[Anonymous No.2750004]

>>2748646
This game was great. And it would have been damn near to perfect if it had two things. Better graphics for the day it was made. Don't get me wrong, graphics are not important, but Wild Arms 2 was a game that came out fairly late in the PSX and it looks marginally better than the first one which looked frankly, horrible as far as battle scenes are concerned.

But that's not as important. It's poor localisation and translation were things that should have been better. At times you can cringe at how bad some of the stuff is.

If those things were better, WA2 would be a 10/10 rpg because it is bloody well fantastic.

[Anonymous No.2750042]

>>2749470
It's an action-adventure. Secret of Mana and Terranigma are action-RPGs. Zelda and Alundra are action-adventures.

[Anonymous No.2750059]

>>2750042
>being this autistic
also everyone else on the face of the earth disagrees with you.

[Anonymous No.2750068]

>>2748646

Dude WA2 is fantastic but given they made 5 of them I don't think it quite fits the criteria of the thread

[Anonymous No.2750082]

>>2748689
/pol/ plz go

[Anonymous No.2750163]

>>2746425
New Horizons / Uncharted Waters

[Anonymous No.2750251]

>>2746629
As someone who once rented a copy I can definitely say I still want my $5 back.

[Anonymous No.2750276]

>>2746425
Probably either Teeworlds (not retro) or Balloon Fight. The latter is one of my long-time favorites but few share my strong appreciation for it.

[Anonymous No.2750373]

>>2749446
Well I'm on this board pretty well every day and although I will bring it up semi regularly, I've virtually never seen anyone else even mention Shiren the Wanderer even in our sporadic roguelike threads. In this topic is one of the first times I've seen someone here mention having made it all the way through in probably years.

So comparing that to more popular games people talk about all the time I think gives a pretty good guess. Most people in the thread seem to get the idea, there have been a number of interesting posts.

>>2750059
That guy was being a bit of a dick, but is right. Alundra is an action adventure game. The distinction between them and action RPGs is generally put at killing enemies for experience. That's why the Mana games and Terranigma are considered action RPGs and Zelda and Alundra fall under action adventure.

>>2750276
I never had it as a kid, but used to play the hell out of Baloon Fight in the first Animal Crossing where you could actually boot up NES games. It's an awesome game.

[Anonymous No.2750429]

>>2746425
>perfect
Shiren definitely is, but far from unknown

[Anonymous No.2750442]

>>2748646
The series tends to get discussed on /m/'s symphogear threads a lot, since the series is written by the WA writer.

[Anonymous No.2750482]

>>2746425
Densha De GO! games. I really like this series, but people usually dismiss it as simulators for trains otakus, which is as much correct as saying that Outrun games are simulators for cars otakus.
I think it's fun and unique arcade title, and although it requires much less user input than car driving games, it still can be very exciting as memorization and precision are necessary and at the same time it's very calming thanks to the nature of its setting and the great sound design.

[Anonymous No.2750491]

>>2750482
>Densha De GO
Is that related at all to the Japanese Rail Sim games that are on 3DS? I've played a couple of those and they're very nice and relaxing indeed. What's a good Densha De Go to start with?

[Anonymous No.2750569]

>>2750491
>Rail Sim games that are on 3DS
I think I saw one on Playasia, but it's the different series, don't know anything about it. The last DDG was on DS, I had it on the flashcart, but didn't care much for it.
The version I played the most is DDG3 for PS2, but I've started with PC version of DDG Final. Although it's considered the easiest one and too forgiving, it has fun score chaining and the best graphics in the series. I think it's a good starting point as tracks with higher difficulty are locked in the beginning and if you're familiar with series it probably can be tedious to unlock them.

>>2746425
I wanted to comment on OP but forgot to do it. I like Shiren a lot, but I stopped playing it because I'm too much of a hoarder and every session I was just stuffing rooms with items and crafting my great sword, which at this point is too perfect to take it in the dungeons, because of fear of losing it out of some stupid mistake. Also I think Shiren is one of my favorite character designs, it's funny how coat made from Torneko's shirt and a weasel can make generic Japanese wanderer so memorable.

[Anonymous No.2750591]

>>2750569
Thanks I'll look into it! I enjoyed the 3DS ones, they're pretty easy but sometimes I just like something simple and pretty and the 3D looked nice.

If you ever go back to Shiren, I would recommend forgetting about your stored greatsword for a while and play it like a more typical roguelike where you expect to die and lose everything. That will discourage you from just hoarding loot and get you into the mindset of using everything at your disposal. Just keep seeing how far you can get with what you find randomly.

Then when you've got a bit more confident, pick up your sword and try another run. My first successful Shiren run was with a crazy boosted greatsword like that. Even if you do lose it, you can always make another.

[Anonymous No.2750595]

>>2750442

You forgot to mention the part where it's not actually a mecha series that continually invites c/a/ncer to the board. Asshole.

[Anonymous No.2750608]

>>2750595
>c/a/ncer
What is it with 4chan that every subforum hates every other subforum?

[Anonymous No.2750624]

>>2750591
Yeah, thanks for the advice, that's pretty much what I was planning to do. There's room to be creative and it probably possible to beat it only with onigiris or something. I played it the right way a lot and was at 24 level once, but eventually hoarding took over.

[Anonymous No.2750628]

>>2746623
I always get confused between that and getsu fuumaden

[Anonymous No.2750632]

Sometimes it seems like nobody but me has played Alcahest. It's a pretty kickass action game, although it does get extremely difficult after the first couple levels.

[Anonymous No.2750634]

Superman 64

[Anonymous No.2750637]

>>2750624
It's plenty possible to beat it with just what you find along the way. But getting one successful run under your belt with a super sword can be a good confidence boost.

[Anonymous No.2751180]

>>2746489
I've come across this a few times while searching for obscure Japanese roguelikes. Most besides Shiren and Milandra, are for early Windows PC's. How difficult is Milandra without a high level of Japanese fluency?

[Anonymous No.2751191]

>>2749553
Just looked this up on youtube. Doesn't look my kind of thing, but damn that music is cool.

[Anonymous No.2751274]

>>2748518
Is that SFC cover supposed to be bad box art? Cause I really like it.

[Anonymous No.2751397]

>>2747484
I've never played Shiren, but that cover looks like an awesome SNES game cover somehow, I would have totally bought it if I had a DS and saw that (and if I bought games by their cover).

>>2748518
That one is just shit though.