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Okay. So what's the deal with this game? It's had so many releases, two different titles, multiple translations (both fan and official) and hardtype easytype versions, minor censorship, and re-releases that I honestly don't know where to start.

Simple question, what is the most true-to-the-original (Japanese) release? Is there a translation patch for the original Japanese SNES rom? I want to play this for the first time but have as close to the very first release as possible (not interested in the wacky FF2US translation)

>> No.2743117

>>2743106
>Simple question, what is the most true-to-the-original (Japanese) release?
Most people agree that FF2US is better than the original Japanese game. Either because the Japanese version is way too easy or way too hard... I forget which. "True to the original" isn't what you're after in this case because the original simply isn't as good as what we got when the game came stateside.

>> No.2743118

>>2743117
So, wait. Which are the re-releases on PS1 and GBA etc based on?

>> No.2743129

>>2743118
Play the GBA one, with the music patch if you feel it's needed. Have fun.

>> No.2743146

Pretty much every version is flawed in some way or another.
>FF2US
Dumbed down, no ATB bars
>FF4 GBA
ATB is bugged to fuck, shit sound (can be patched), too easy
>FF4 PS1
Now Loading...
>FF4 PSP
RPG Maker-tier sprites, same babbymode gameplay as GBA
>FF4 DS
Battles run at like 15FPS, 3D models and voice acting might be a turnoff, includes none of the bonus content from the previous versions

Personally I'd still recommend the DS version in spite of that, as it really does have the best and most challenging gameplay among them. The other ports that are based on it are okay too, although even the PC version still runs battles at such a low framerate that it impacts menu responsiveness. Really, it comes down to either the DS or PSP version. Not much reason to bother with any others.

>> No.2743150

>>2743146
>GBA
>ATB is bugged to fuck
Not in the European release.
>too easy
I don't think you're thinking of the right version.

>> No.2743160

>>2743146
This "lol loading times" to any and everything PS1 port related is basically shitposting at this point.

What about the actual fucking game, for once?

>> No.2743164

>>2743160
There's no point in playing a version of the game that's almost identical to the SNES game with massive loading times everywhere. The only change is a slightly better translation. DS has the best translation but looks like trash.

>> No.2743170

>>2743118
PS1 is based on the SFC and GBA an improved version for the WSC.

>> No.2743180

>>2743146
>RPG Maker-tier sprites
Nigger what's the last RPG maker game YOU looked at?

>> No.2743181

http://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-iv/
Highly recommended to anyone interested in translation differences.

>> No.2743234

>>2743117
>Most people agree that FF2US is better than the original Japanese game
I've never heard anyone say this, let alone "most people agree" to it until someone asked this very question yesterday. US is babby version.

>> No.2743242

How's the steam version?

>> No.2743323

>>2743242
It's the DS version's models, textures and 15fps battles running in HD on a single screen.

>> No.2743358

>>2743106
>Okay. So what's the deal with this game?
tl;dr it's to FF as SEED is to Gundam. Japan loves it to bits, everyone else not as much but it's okay.

>best version
Depends on what you want because it's so chock full of different versions. Not even Ys had so many strikingly different ones.

>True to Japan
Namingway Edition. It has a fixed up translation that's true to form, and restores Japan's stuff to the US one. It's better than the original and the fan translation of the japanese version. Also has a couple of ease-of-life extras that don't effect the gameplay in any way except for a couple spells having combat uses; they can be completely ignored.

>Content
PSP has the most. Even though it's based on the easier GBA release, it makes up for it in postgame with the neat random floor dungeon. It has After Years in the same package, and to this date it's the only one with Interlude.

>Gameplay and visuals
DS. It's harder but take caution if you're wanting a good translation because the dialog in US is the Squeenix Flower Standard. Has mobile and PC ports, both not as good but After Years was remade in the same 3D

>> No.2743361

>>2743181
He also has a side note elsewhere on the site talking more about how screwed up the fan translation of the Japanese version is. Even some of the original team agree it's not good nowadays.

>> No.2743364

>>2743358
>loves it to bits
I wanna kiss it on the lips

(American btw)

>> No.2743365

>>2743129

But the PSP version is better, poorfag.

FFIV: The Complete Collection.

Never even played The After Years or the DS versions. Fuck that ugly 3D.

>> No.2743374

>>2743364
A lot still do, just not as much as in Japan.

It's possibly because it's more like Dragon Quest than the others.

>> No.2743379

>>2743106
Play the GBA or PSP version.

>>2743117
Holy shit, I haven't seen bait this blatant in a long time.

>> No.2743460

>>2743379
>common opinions are now bait

You sound like a /pol/fag

>> No.2743495

>Another FFIV thread hours after I pick it up again for the first time in like 20 years

>>2743361
Weird font size and screen-dominating dialog boxes aside, his argument boils down to a few throwaway pop culture gags, and that he doesn't like some of the swearing. I'd be annoyed about the pop shit, but almost all the updated versions have some amount of it anyway (SA, real ultimate power) so I don't much care. I sat through the first hour of four versions of the game last night trying to decide which to play (US, J2E, PSX and GBA) and J2E's differences are negligible. Besides, Kain being a butthurt faggot calling Rosa a whore for preferring Cecil is appropriate because Kain is a piece of shit, fuck that guy.

>> No.2743913 [DELETED] 

>>2743495
Later in the main comparison he also talks about how the fan translation accidentally censored itself because they didn't quite know what they were doing, and took some lines wholesale from FF2US.

J2E's differences between it and the official ones should not be negligible. That means it's not doing it's job as a retranslation.

>> No.2743925

>>2743495
>J2E's differences are negligible.
See that's the problem. You're forgetting J2E's purpose back then, to make something more in tune with the originals.

The fact that it is negligible means it's not doing it's job. That's why >>2743358 recommends Namingway instead.

>> No.2743943

>>2743365
>poorfag
>paying for GBA or PSP games in 2015
I just don't care for the sprites really, it's personal preference but I think they took a bit too much liberty with them and made it a bit too generic.

>> No.2743967

>2004+11
>poorfags vs. payfags
>how dare you freeload vs. how dare my hobby be an industry
JUST

>> No.2744041

>>2743967
>le JUST meme

Literally go back to /v/

>> No.2744279

>>2743106
If you want the best up to date translation go with the PSP. If retro graphics mean something to you go with Namingway Edition.

>> No.2744282

Best SNES FF.

>> No.2744283

>>2743180
RPGMk2000 Don Miguel's Adventures

>> No.2744363

>>2743925

God dammit. I dug around in FFII's hacks/translations and didn't see this one. I'm already 7 hours in to the J2E version anyway. I would still have preferred the original size text, too. Interesting as I did read earlier today that it has since been found that FF2 wasn't a direct port of FFIVET, but the other way around.

>> No.2744395

>>2743146
I'm playing through FF4 PSX right now, the loading is almost unnoticeable outside of starting up a saved game. It definitely didn't get hit with the loading stick as hard as Chrono Trigger did.

>> No.2744435

>>2744282
But it's not FFV.