Double Dragon thread

[Anonymous No.2741620]

God tier
>Double Dragon Advance
>Double Dragon II (NES)
>Double Dragon (arcade)
>Battletoads vs. Double Dragon

Decent tier
>Double Dragon Neon
>Double Dragon II (PC Engine)
>Double Dragon II (arcade)
>Double Dragon (NES)
>Double Dragon (Game Boy)

Meh tier
>Double Dragon (Master System)
>Double Dragon III (NES)
>Double Dragon II (Game Boy)

Shit tier
>Double Dragon 3 (arcade)
>Double Dragon II: Wanders of the Dragons

Vs. fighting tier
>Double Dragon (Neo-Geo)
>Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls

[Anonymous No.2741642]

Forgot to put Return of Double Dragon into the Decent tier and Super Double Dragon (the American version) into Meh.

[Anonymous No.2741759]

>tfw none of my friends in junior high owned or were at all interested in double dragon advance
>no bimmy to my jimmy

I wish so bad I could rock two player on the game boy player

[Anonymous No.2741768]

Elder God tier

[Anonymous No.2741861]

>>2741768
Objectively the best version. What other version has the Lee brothers as the post apocalyptic mad max biker beefcakes they should have always been? Good ol America, always fixing the mistakes those silly japs make.

[Anonymous No.2741868]

>>2741620
>Battletoads vs Double Dragon
>God tier

>Double Dragpn II PC Engine
>Not God tier

>Double Dragon III Nes and Double Dragon MS
>Not Decent tier

Otherwise good.

[Anonymous No.2741871]

what about this

[Anonymous No.2741875]

>>2741620
God tier
>Double Dragon Advance
>Double Dragon II (NES)
>Double Dragon (arcade)

Awesome tier
>Double Dragon II (arcade)
>Double Dragon Neon
>Return of Double Dragon

Decent tier
>Battletoads vs. Double Dragon
>Double Dragon II (PC Engine)
>Double Dragon (NES)
>Double Dragon (Game Boy)
>Super Double Dragon

Meh tier
>Double Dragon (Master System)
>Double Dragon III (NES)
>Double Dragon II (Game Boy)
>Double Dragon (Neo-Geo)

Shit tier
>Double Dragon II: Wanders of the Dragons
>Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls

Worst game ever tier
>Double Dragon 3 (arcade)

[Anonymous No.2741879]

>>2741861
DD2 on PC-Engine almost literally starts like an episode of Hokuto no Ken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX9w3cqQcF8

[Anonymous No.2741914]

>>2741871
I loved the character designs in that so much.

The 4 characters they used as hidden characters in Matrimelee also made that game so much more sweeter than it already was - even if they were a bit buggy (Jones' call-for-helper move had no hitboxes for example, making it completely safe for evading enemy attacks)

[Anonymous No.2741926]

>>2741620
>Battletoads vs. Double Dragon
>god tier

well first of all you should make clear you're talking about the NES version, since that's better than the 16 bit games. it's more of a Battletoads game than it is a DD game anyways.

>Double Dragon III (NES)
>meh tier

"no", you probably just don't understand how to play it.


and you forgot to rank DDIV

[Anonymous No.2741930]

>>2741926
There's about 50 various other ports not ranked either

[Anonymous No.2741934]

>Everyone putting double dragon NES above Master System

Do none of you have friends or something?

[Anonymous No.2741957]

>>2741620

I like all of the Double Dragon games on the NES and SNES with the exception of Double Dragon V.

[Anonymous No.2742023]

>>2741620
Tier lists are usually bait but this seems to be a decent and sincere attempt

The mobile version though

[Anonymous No.2742091]

>>2741926
>Double Dragon III (NES)
>meh tier
>"no", you probably just don't understand how to play it.

Not OP or >>2741875 but I do definitely understand how to play it. If I were being super generous, I'd move it up to decent. Obviously, once you learn the mechanics it moves up from being "OMGWTF TOO HARD SHIT TIER". The problem for me is that it's a little too easy.
-Enemies have trouble hitting you if you're constantly moving up and down.
-Billy and Jimmy's standing kick stays active for so long that it's easy to bait enemies into walking into it. It also stuns in one hit so you can follow up with grab combo/regrab infinite/cyclone kick for ninjas/nunchucks for bosses. Enemies can't duck it, so it's more consistent than spamming cyclone kicks.
-Billy and Jimmy are completely invincible during a grab, so it's useful for getting enemies to close in without having to worry about projectiles or running jump attacks.
-Chin's standing punches completely decimate all regular enemies and, at worst, trade hits with bosses.
The only real threat to you are the bosses' weird hitboxes and Egypt's shonky platforming.

[Anonymous No.2742093]

>>2741926
>and you forgot to rank DDIV
There is no Double Dragon IV, unless you meant Super/Return, which I did.>>2741642

>>2741861
>>2741879
Double Dragon has always been Hokuto no Ken-inspired in its aesthetics. Especially when it came to their promotional art.

>>2741926
>"no", you probably just don't understand how to play it.
Assumptions much? I didn't think DD3 on the NES was as good as the first two games. I can clear it without much trouble though since all you need is the Cyclone Spin Kick anyway.

>>2741930
I only left out the Genesis versions as far as major ones are concerned and those were just straight ports of the arcade games. None of them were good though, except for DD1 maybe. I don't particular care enough about the 80s home computers ports that were designed to be played with one button joystick.

>>2741934
Other than having 2-player co-op, the SMS version of DD1 wasn't as good as the NES version due to how they messed the combat mechanics in that version. Combos don't work the same way and the way the jump kicks worked was kinda weird. You can't even grab enemies in the SMS version unless they're near death.

>>2742023
Yeah. I forgot about that one too. I like the art style, but could never get into the touch screen controls.

[Anonymous No.2742106]

>>2741620
>SMS meh tier.
Mom wont let us go to the arcade, it's too late. Oh, lets just rev it up on SMS. OP confirmed for no friends.

[Anonymous No.2742114]

>>2742106
I explained my reasoning here.>>2742093 Also, the novelty of 2-player co-op in the SMS version wears off when you consider DD2 (and 3) only came out on the NES.

[Anonymous No.2742130]

>>2741620
>Battletoads vs. Double Dragon
>God tier

Get da fuck outta here

[Anonymous No.2742148]

Double Dragon Advance is the only God tier one.

[Anonymous No.2742164]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE_OTn3L1hw&index=2&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAHqU9CRmO0R6Y8E6SY9kKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRBgv0vyyB4&index=6&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAirpzdGKWcPVxJF2r_bdu5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaA7JTa6c-8&index=10&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAirpzdGKWcPVxJF2r_bdu5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB5I9izM0Kw&index=12&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAirpzdGKWcPVxJF2r_bdu5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq8jOBJ_rcM&index=13&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAirpzdGKWcPVxJF2r_bdu5

So I think we can all agree that DD2 is the best DD right?

[Anonymous No.2742183]

Actually this is the best DD game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG0tVG9SltA

[Anonymous No.2742251]

>>2742183
Fuck off hipster

[Anonymous No.2742256]

>>2742164
>So I think we can all agree that DD2 is the best DD right?
You didn't specify which version though.

[Anonymous No.2742285]

>>2742256
i only played the nes one as a kid so that

[Anonymous No.2742292]

>>2742148
Pretty much this. It takes everything great about DD1&2 and manages to completely improve on the DD formula. Its only problem was that it was only released on the GBA.

[Anonymous No.2742451]

>>2742285
The NES versions of the Double Dragon games are completely different from the arcade ones and not just in the usual "downgraded port" sense. Most people nowadays are familiar with the NES rendition, but the AC version has its fans.

>>2742292
My only gripe with Double Dragon Advance is that they left out the Terminator lookalike with the glowing red eyes of doom from the second arcade game.

[Anonymous No.2742498]

None of the home versions of DD are worth shit except the Sega ones. The rest are all various flavors of horrible.

[Anonymous No.2742534]

>>2742498
Not really. DD1 was only so-so on the SMS and decent on the Genesis (aside from the crappy chiptune and input lag). DD2 and DD3 on the Mega Drive/Genesis were shitty ports of the arcade versions and DD3 on the arcade was already a mediocre game to begin with.

[Anonymous No.2742654]

>>2742114
>one port of a game is inferior because its sequels came out on a different system

Don't mention anything about how SMS version can have more than 2 enemies, and they can actually be different enemies and not two of the same enemy. The larger number of colors on the sprites also helps. Sure, there are flickering issues, but the master system is closer to the original arcade than the NES, and doesn't involve the crummy leveling system or random platforming elements.

[Anonymous No.2742671]

>>2742534
The only problem with DD1 on genesis is the speed of the enemies, which is fixed with a romhack. Aside from that it actually plays better than the arcade because no slowdowns.

[Anonymous No.2742729]

>>2742654
>Don't mention anything about how SMS version can have more than 2 enemies, and they can actually be different enemies and not two of the same enemy.
The SMS version had problems that didn't exist in the NES version, like the fact that the SMS version couldn't have more than one weapon on-screen at a time and the fact that Rowpers couldn't even pick up and throw cardboxes like they did in the AC and NES version. At least the NES version had you fighting against two armed Williams (one with a dynamite and the other with a bat) at a time. Not that it matters that much, since everyone except Abobo and Willy fights the same way.
>The larger number of colors on the sprites also helps.
The SMS version's color palette is too pastel for my liking.
>Sure, there are flickering issues, but the master system is closer to the original arcade than the NES, and doesn't involve the crummy leveling system or random platforming elements.
The SMS version had flatter level designs than the arcade version though. It didn't even have the climbable ladders/fences that were in certain areas.

The NES version is completely different from the arcade, but I think it's a decent game on its own merits, whereas the SMS version is kinda meh aside from the 2-player co-op.

[Anonymous No.2742771]

>>2742729
Despite how much you want to downplay it, the NES not having co-op is a big fucking deal.

[Anonymous No.2743281]

>>2742671
The Genesis version of DD1 won't respond to your inputs sometime if you press the attack buttons too rapidly. I never had this issue in the arcade version, or any other Genesis beat-'em-up. Also, the music has no excuse sounding as bad as it does on the Genesis and some of the graphics are completely off. Marian in particular was given an ugly redesign.

[Anonymous No.2743313]

>>2741620
Neon should probably be in a tier of its own just due to how orgasmically good the soundtrack is.

[Anonymous No.2743347]

>>2742183
For what it's worth, Combatribes was a much better Double Dragon 3 than the arcade game we got. It almost makes me wonder whether it was meant to be part of the series at some point.

[Anonymous No.2743348]

>>2741620
What tier is the Atari 2600 version?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQ-iK31JLQ

[Anonymous No.2743405]

>>2743348
I would probably file it under "Why did they bother" tier.

[Anonymous No.2743513]

>>2743348
Amazing box art, shitty game tier

[Anonymous No.2743531]

>>2743281
The graphics were fine IMO, some colors were weird but there is a romhack for that colors http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2378/

Gameplay-wise i still find it better than the arcade, the arcade is almost unplayable because of the massive slowdowns.

[Anonymous No.2743549]

>>2743531
I'm surprised they didn't fix Marian's sprites in that hack. Also, the Lee brothers' uppercut animation looked really weird compared to the arcade.

Aren't there bootleg ROMs of the arcade version on MAME that fixes the slowdown issues?

[Anonymous No.2743554]

>>2743405

[Anonymous No.2743559]

>>2743549
Overclocking should be enough.

[Anonymous No.2743585]

>tfw safe the girl and be rewarded with a panty shot

[Anonymous No.2743594]

>>2743585
Tropes: 10,948
Women: 0

[Anonymous No.2743598]

>>2743594
Huh?

[Anonymous No.2743606]

>>2743585
>that awkward moment when you spent the entirety of the first game rescuing your girlfriend, only for her to get shot by the bad guy in the sequel.
Maybe the NES version ruined my perception of the arcade game, but I was always miffed that she stayed dead in that version.

[Anonymous No.2743632]

>>2743598
I think anon is trying to make a point about sexism

[Anonymous No.2743638]

>>2743632
>>2743585
What's with those Sega-related filenames?

[Anonymous No.2743645]

>>2743638
He's saying that the characters in the screenshots look like the filename characters. Jesus Christ, retards like you really are too dumb to live.

[Anonymous No.2743664]

>>2743645
they... do?

[Anonymous No.2743707]

>>2743664
for you

[Anonymous No.2743710]

>>2743594
>>2743598
>>2743632
>>2743638
>>2743645
>>2743664
>>2743707

All these autistic posts have nothing to do with Double Dragon.

[Anonymous No.2743717]

Maybe it was just the cab I played on but when I finally got to try out a DD1 arcade cab a few weeks ago, it felt really cheap and unresponsive.

[Anonymous No.2743723]

>>2743717
DD1 arcade has tons of slowdown.

[Anonymous No.2743765]

This autistic post >>2743710 has nothing to do with Double Dragon

[Anonymous No.2743772]

>>2743765

Yeah, it actually did. I was referencing the fact that you guys weren't talking about Double Dragon and instead were being typical anti-social internet neckbeards.

Sorry to get you upset by pointing out the obvious.

[Anonymous No.2743774]

>>2743723
It had slowdown when there were more than two enemies off-screen.

[Anonymous No.2743786]

>>2743710
>>2743772
Hey! Don't lump me (>>2743638) with the other retards, you retard. Maybe I was feeding the trolls, but I was genuinely curious why some random anon was uploading screenshots of Double Dragon with weird filenames.

[Anonymous No.2743828]

>>2743772
That's a big guy 4u

[Anonymous No.2743962]

>There are people who use the Elbow Strike to beat the arcade version of Double Dragon.
It's like you guys don't like to be challenged.

[Anonymous No.2743973]

>>2743962
If i want to be challenged i would just play a better game, DD1 just feels broken.

[Anonymous No.2743991]

>>2743973
DD2 on the arcade is pretty challenging too and much more fleshed out.

[Anonymous No.2743994]

>>2743991
Yeah, the combat in that one is more solid IMO, but still feels kinda a rehash.

[Anonymous No.2744019]

>>2743994
Double Dragon II pretty much came into existence because the lead programmer wanted to keep fixing all the bugs he left out from the final game and he ended up implementing stuff that the team left out from the final game, so they decided to make it into a sequel. It feels like the game Technos always wanted to make.

[Anonymous No.2744027]

>>2744019
Pretty cool, although a real sequel to the arcade would have been cool, Combatribes is the closest thing to a Double Dragon arcade sequel.

[Anonymous No.2744252]

>>2743772
>cries about other posters
>uses buzzwords like autistic and neckbeard
>adds zero to the topic
>posts off-topic image that gets deleted by janny

Now this is shitposting!

pic related

[Anonymous No.2744496]

>>2741768
>>2743405
Seems like the packaging artist for the Atari versions just traced over the original promo art Technos made for the Famicom/NES version.

[Anonymous No.2744514]

>>2744496
You do know what "traced" means don't you?

I can see the similarities but they are still very different in style.

[Anonymous No.2744834]

>>2744514
I didn't meant traced in the literal sense of course, but it's obvious the Atari artist use the Famicom art (which were pretty stylized renditions of the characters to begin with) for reference without fully knowing who the characters were. Like, why the hell are Williams, Chin and Abobo harassing Linda when she's one of them (I know she's supposed to be Marian, but she dresses like Linda in the NES manual art)? Why is Abobo the same size as the other bad guys? Was Chin (the Chinese guy) even in the Atari version?

[Anonymous No.2744961]

>>2741871
>>2741914
Rage of the Dragons was kinda weird. It was an unofficial sequel to the Neo-Geo Double Dragon, which in turn was a tie-in to the movie, which in turn was only loosely based on the original games.

[Anonymous No.2744994]

>>2744834
The word you're looking for is "referenced", not traced.

The Atari cover looks like someone handed an artist the promotional art in >>2744496 and then gave him a copy of The Warriors on VHS and said "take these guys and make them American."

[Anonymous No.2745017]

>>2744994
To be fair, Double Dragon's whole visual style was inspired by Renegade (the American version of the first Kunio game), which in turn was inspired by The Warriors. Even the bad guys in Double Dragon are called the Black WARRIORS.

[Anonymous No.2745172]

>>2743281
Was it just me or were the Jeffs (the Lee brother palette swap enemies) were cheap in the Genesis version? They were tough in the AC version to begin with, but they could hair grab you more easily on the Genesis.

[Anonymous No.2745593]

>>2741620
Hey, #3 was not that bad at all!

[Anonymous No.2745903]

>>2745593
Double Dragon 3 was really weird. Your punches barely had reach, the character animation was pretty horrible and the US version featured microtransactions in fucking 1990.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOO71x-lB5A

[Anonymous No.2745975]

>>2745903
It wasn't made by Technos Japan.

[Anonymous No.2746098]

>>2745903
The arcade version and its ports of that are nothing. The NES version is the only one that is matters - in anything but a negative way.

[Anonymous No.2746209]

>>2745975
It was outsourced to another developer, but Kishimoto (the original Double Dragon creator) oversaw its development and even named the game after one of his favorite '70s bands.

>>2746098
I'm not particular fond of either, but the NES version allowed you to play as a ninja. That counts for something.

[Anonymous No.2746226]

I will always love the intro tune from the atari Ste version. My older bro and I wore out many a joystick whip kicking barrel throwing dudes and 80s as fuck women. Weirdly the game had no other music, just meh sfx and the memorable "wah" of the women when they got ko'd

[Anonymous No.2746692]

>>2746226
Most home computer games in the 80s were like that. Since storage space was a luxury with floppies, they usually only had two music tracks at best, a title theme and an ending theme. Occasionally you might have one or two background music, but that's that.

[Anonymous No.2746913]

Dumping some old Return of Double Dragon articles from Famitsu.

[Anonymous No.2746916]

>>2746913

[Anonymous No.2746920]

>>2746916

[Anonymous No.2746925]

>>2746920
The game got so-so scores when it was eventually reviewed.

[Anonymous No.2747138]

Some review for the Master System version too.

[Anonymous No.2747143]

>>2747138

[Anonymous No.2747546]

>>2746209
Well, that must mean the original creator intended to be making DD3, it that doesn't imply they had faith in the outsourced version. Maybe time constraints meant that the NES version was easier to get done for them, or more likely, they deemed it more important.

Yeah, it did technically have a a ninja, but you can't forget playing as a king-fu master with a belly-flop-of-death. Cause, more capable character and all that.

[Anonymous No.2747562]

>>2747546
>Well, that must mean the original creator intended to be making DD3, it that doesn't imply they had faith in the outsourced version. Maybe time constraints meant that the NES version was easier to get done for them, or more likely, they deemed it more important.
It was outsourced cause Technos's arcade division was busy with other projects such as WWF Superstars and Combatribes at the time and apparently there was a huge demand for a third Double Dragon arcade game since the first two games were pretty successful. I'm not sure why they didn't wait until they were over with their other projects before working on DD3.

[Anonymous No.2747594]

>>2744496
>Hokuto_no_Ken.jpg

[Anonymous No.2747626]

>>2747562
Oh, arcade division, that makes sense.

Wonder why they didn't instead port the NES version to other systems, if the master system and PC engine were still being supported, those would have been an excellent candidates. But PCE's single controller options were, well, anti-double.

Even a solid port of the NES version to the genesis and PC would have been preferable.

[Anonymous No.2747771]

>>2747626
Technos only supported Nintendo consoles until a few years just before they went out of business when they did those Neo-Geo games, along with Popeye's Beach Volley on the Game Gear and Geom Cube on PlayStation.

All those Double Dragon and Kunio ports on Sega and NEC consoles and such were actually licensed versions made by other companies, so Technos themselves probably had little choice in the matter regarding which games they choose to convert.

Acclaim were the ones who produced the Double Dragon 3 port on the Genesis and Game Boy.

[Anonymous No.2748771]

Posting some fanart of Linda.

[Anonymous No.2748773]

>>2748771
Wish the artist had done a version of this with Marian.

[Anonymous No.2749359]

>>2748773

[Anonymous No.2749570]

>>2748773
I'm going to assume there are nudes

I don't see how there couldn't be

[Anonymous No.2749947]

>>2749570
Nah. The artist just really likes his beat-'em-ups.

[Anonymous No.2750879]

[Anonymous No.2751584]

>>2746925
>That one reviewer giving it a 3
I love how people act like game reviewers being biased retards is some sort of new thing that started with Kotaku and IGN, this shit has always been going on. Flip open any EGM and see it for yourself. I swear childhood me wanted to murder Sushi-X.

[Anonymous No.2752118]

>>2751584
He complains that there's not enough enemy variety and that it's too old-fashioned, but the 2P co-op is nice (I'm guessing this and Rushing Beat were the only 2P beat-'em-ups on the SFC at the time). The common complaints in the other reviews are that it's too slow-paced, the characters are too small compared to beat-'em-ups, and it's barely an improvement over the 8-bit NES versions.

Famitsu reviews back then could be really harsh if they wanted to.

[Anonymous No.2752872]

[Anonymous No.2753749]

[Anonymous No.2754159]

>>2746925
i guess Technos didn't pay Famitsu enough

[Anonymous No.2754181]

>>2754159
Double Dragon I on the Famicom got a 31 from Famitsu, which is considered above-average. DD2 only got a 26 though. Not sure how DD3 did.

[Anonymous No.2754219]

>>2754181
Too lazy to search this out myself, but: did Famitsu generally have a bias against beat 'em ups? I can see DD1 getting a low score because of comparisons to the arcade version, but DD2... fuck 'em.

[Anonymous No.2754779]

>>2754219
I don't think they really have any bias against beat-'em ups. Golden Axe on the Mega Drive and Batman Returns on Super Famicom both scored above 30 too. I just don't think they cared about specific genres unless they were RPGs.

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[Anonymous No.2755684]

>>2755683

[Anonymous No.2755692]

>>2755684

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[Anonymous No.2757298]

>>2741620
No Kunio-kun?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLghiQtvBR5hXcE_FMV6-CA8Niy23Ez1vn

[Anonymous No.2758059]

>>2757298
Kunio-kun had more sports games than beat-'em-ups though.

[Anonymous No.2758356]

>>2758059

[Anonymous No.2758385]

>>2758356
The NES/FC version is so fun..

>Running punch okizeme infinite
>good bike mini-game

[Anonymous No.2758583]

>>2758385
I loved how you could milk out infinite extra lives by sitting on your third enemy on the very first area.

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