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Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:42:42 2015 No.2712254 [Reply] [Original]

Early concept art/drawings/screenshots?

I'm always interested in the anything I can find about a retro game's development, beta screenshots, and drawings.

I'll provide any info I have, and in some cases what I believe we are seeing.

For example

In this early Sonic 1 screenshot we can see Marble Zone looks normal except the corkscrew extends a lot more than it does in-game. Kind of funny to look at, wish they had kept this design.

Feel free to contribute. I have screenshots of early beta Zelda Ocarina of Time, but I'll start with sonic concept art

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:44:27 2015 No.2712258 File: 468 KB, 737x557, Sonic_1_TTS-90-4_zpsz1fvwzmo[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712254 Magazine screenshot of Sonic 1 He has a different walk than he does in the final release

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:45:49 2015 No.2712262 File: 265 KB, 784x600, 784px-Sonic_1_TTS-90-2_zpstjkvvyl1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712258 Early enemy Not sure what it was or what it did, but it looks out of place with the rest of the graphics

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:46:51 2015 No.2712263 File: 231 KB, 800x544, 800px-Sonic_1_TTS-90-1_zpsek8fvqhv[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712262 It doesn't look robotic at all

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:47:54 2015 No.2712265 File: 174 KB, 799x577, GHZ-DarkBG[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712263 The way sonic stands is way different from the final release

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:49:32 2015 No.2712269
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>>2712265
Concept art for Scrap Brain zone

We didn't see this series of tubes in the first game, but it reminds me of the pipes you travel through in Chemical Plant Zone in the sequel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:50:51 2015 No.2712271 File: 97 KB, 784x600, 784px-S1concept8[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712269 More scrap brain concept art, but this did make it into the game

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:52:15 2015 No.2712272 File: 44 KB, 500x409, SMWproto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:52:19 2015 No.2712273
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>>2712271
Here's sonic pushing a rolling ball, which he could then climb and ride around as it rolled.

It's not found in the game but they did use the sprite for the giant ball Robotnik tries to kill you with at the end of stage

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:56:00 2015 No.2712275
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>>2712272
>raccoon tail in super mario world
It would have been redundant but I would have loved to have the tail in smw

Maybe have the tail for floating, the cape for flying?

I was seriously let down when SMW was released and it had way less powerups than Super Mario 3 did. I really missed the suits, and Goomba's shoe even if it was only in 1 level.

Yoshi is cool but I really wanted more variety. It felt like a step back. Oh well.

Anyway here's Marble Zone with some strange platforms you can stand on, they didn't make the final cut.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 22:58:03 2015 No.2712280 File: 21 KB, 340x272, MZ-UFO[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712275 it wouldn't be a beta thread without the famous version of Marble Zone with the Saturns in the background. Or maybe they were UFO's

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:00:21 2015 No.2712284 File: 59 KB, 559x384, MZ-Lava[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712280 in early Marble Zone the torches didn't have fire on them Maybe they were electric?

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:02:49 2015 No.2712291
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>>2712284
Sparkling Zone, which at least to me makes more sense than naming it Spring Yard Zone.

Then again zone names often don't make sense (scrap brain zone? really?)

The background is different from the final release.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:05:24 2015 No.2712294 File: 27 KB, 447x307, SYZ-Sparkling10[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712291 more beta sparkling zone

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:11:12 2015 No.2712304 >>2712269 They used something similar in Carnival Night Zone in Sonic 3

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:15:11 2015 No.2712308 File: 15 KB, 368x278, SYZ-Sparkling3[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712304 Oh yeah they did, except not transparent Here's more Sparkling Zone background

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:17:05 2015 No.2712309 File: 22 KB, 300x212, LZ-BlackBG[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712308 Labyrinth Zone with a completely black background

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:18:14 2015 No.2712312 >>2712275 >SMW was released and it had way less powerups than Super Mario 3 did It had Yoshis and Star Roads instead.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:19:48 2015 No.2712314
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>>2712309
Later a rocky background was added but it was still not the final background

>>2712312
Yeah I guess you can count the different colored Yoshis as different powerups, and the fact that eating different colored shells gave you different powers was cool too

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:23:49 2015 No.2712321 File: 88 KB, 784x600, 784px-S1concept6[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712314 Another concept drawing. I don't think this made it to the game at all Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:26:23 2015 No.2712328
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>>2712321
This is interesting.

Concept art for Starlight Zone, with searchlights in the background.

They didn't make it to the final build but were used in Sonic CD's Starlight Speedway

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:27:37 2015 No.2712329 File: 180 KB, 788x590, S1concept-Starlight[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712328 More Starlight Zone No buildings in the background yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:28:40 2015 No.2712332 File: 102 KB, 784x600, 784px-S1concept1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712329 This one just makes me wtf, specially at the sun emblem on the loop

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:32:58 2015 No.2712336
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>>2712332
More concept art, this one I think shows how Sonic gets momentum and rolls downhill, an underrated little detail that makes the game very fun in my opinion.

Playing a game like Bubsy, where you just kind of take off without any feeling of weight and you gain too much speed too fast, I really appreciate this little detail and I know they probably spent a lot of time tweaking it. Sonic just wouldn't be as fun if he took off too fast and ran right into enemies or into a pit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:33:56 2015 No.2712337 File: 122 KB, 541x379, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712262 >>2712265 This enemy is based on this concept art.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:36:15 2015 No.2712338
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>>2712336
Here's the water physics, and yes, contrary to what this game would have you believe hedgehogs CAN swim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XtNWuqMOXs

Maybe Sonic just never took the time to learn. He practiced his running day and night and never worked on his hog paddle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:37:34 2015 No.2712341 File: 95 KB, 784x600, 784px-S1concept4[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712337 Oh wow I can see Madonna's there too. And what's up with Robotnik?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:39:53 2015 No.2712345 File: 168 KB, 764x521, S1concept-Marble[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712341 Here's marble zone's concept art

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:46:23 2015 No.2712361 File: 183 KB, 800x531, 800px-S1concept-labyrinth[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712345 Labyrinth Zone I love these drawings because they show what the art directors had in mind when they designed these zones

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:50:04 2015 No.2712372 >>2712341 This was before the idea of saving animal friends from robots. I'm not sure what the story was.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:50:15 2015 No.2712374
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>>2712337
Also those were some wacky looking enemies

Makes me feel like Sonic originally had a whole other direction, and at some point they decided to make it about an evil scientist who made robots

This is a pretty common drawing of Sonic with his human girlfriend

Huh, huh, bestiality awwwwww right

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:50:35 2015 No.2712376 >>2712338 They also cover themselves in their own shit and no one knows why, or so I heard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:55:12 2015 No.2712384 >>2712374 Yes the furry autism started all the way at conception.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:55:43 2015 No.2712386
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>>2712376
>>2712376
>They also cover themselves in their own shit and no one knows why, or so I heard.

They do, and they probably do it because no one will eat a shit-covered spike ball

I mean if those spikes puncture the roof of your mouth you'll get a nasty infection

Here's some concept art of Dr. Robotnik, or Eggman whatever

There was a point when he was going to be the star of the game, possibly as a hero who used his gadgets to win?

I'm reaching here but I always thought of a Dr. Emmett Brown type of mad scientist who got around like inspector Gadget with the use of different contraptions.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:59:51 2015 No.2712394
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>>2712386
Sega held a contest to design Sonic. One of the entries was a rabbit, who kind of looks like Sonic, who used his ears to grab and throw stuff ( a mechanic later used for Ristar)

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:02:37 2015 No.2712402 >>2712337 huh. That's clearly a Robotnik design in the black and yellow, but the image implies something else is the big bad.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:02:42 2015 No.2712403
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>>2712394
More concept art. A human with Bart Simpson hair

Seeing entries like this enforces the idea that at this point Sonic could have been a very different game

Maybe they were going for something more Mario-esque but with a twist, and they hadn't figured that part out yet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:04:25 2015 No.2712407 >>2712341 >And what's up with Robotnik? Looks like he's just a generic monster in that art with the true villain being vampire Dr. Wily in the sky there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:05:22 2015 No.2712408 File: 88 KB, 497x374, S1concept-WINDUPROBOTROOK[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712403 Here's a robot that could have been the main character

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:06:10 2015 No.2712412 File: 424 KB, 1200x925, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712394 Feels. Rip Ristar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:06:28 2015 No.2712413 >>2712372 save Princess Elise from Evil Eggman and his plan to release a fire monster. Time travel is involved,as are evil clones of Sonic from the future.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:06:35 2015 No.2712415 File: 106 KB, 644x484, S1concept-MRHEDGEHOG[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712408 Finally a hedgehog, or Mr. Needlemouse

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:07:51 2015 No.2712417 >>2712321 The art may never have made it but that level chunk appears in Spring Yard Zone, doesn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:07:55 2015 No.2712418 File: 93 KB, 644x484, S1concept-MRHEDGEHOG2[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712415

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:09:42 2015 No.2712423 File: 67 KB, 457x600, 457px-S1concept-Needlemouse[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712417 Yeah, something like that, but with Spiked balls instead of fireballs

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:11:14 2015 No.2712425 File: 290 KB, 644x484, S1concept-HEDGEHOG[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712423 And finally we arrive at something close to the final design

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:14:34 2015 No.2712429
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>>2712425
Next we arrive at Sonic 2

Here's the commercial and a photo of the backstage shooting of the commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVVN9TXI1I0

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:18:44 2015 No.2712432 File: 104 KB, 412x512, CollectionItem_118[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712429 Concept art for various enemies

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:19:54 2015 No.2712435 >>2712429 That's really impressive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:25:54 2015 No.2712445 File: 84 KB, 458x599, 458px-S2mbubblerconcept[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712432

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:28:23 2015 No.2712450 File: 81 KB, 458x599, 458px-S2crawlconcept2[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712445 Bumper enemy from Sonic 2

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:29:46 2015 No.2712452 File: 125 KB, 791x600, 791px-S2badnikconcepts5[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712450

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:30:56 2015 No.2712454 File: 68 KB, 394x600, 394px-S2badnikconcepts10[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712452 Oh and those dinosaurs? Hidden palace zone enemies. These would be the Dust Hill Zone enemies

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:32:42 2015 No.2712459 File: 148 KB, 800x600, 800px-S2metropolisconcepts2[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712454 Metropolis Zone concept art

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:45:24 2015 No.2712467 File: 56 KB, 512x443, betamountain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got some early Chrono Trigger stuff Starting with Singing Mountain, a cut dungeon

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:46:30 2015 No.2712468 File: 52 KB, 530x419, betalava.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712467 inside the mountain

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:47:35 2015 No.2712470 File: 30 KB, 513x441, betacoliseum.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712468 future coliseum or something

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:50:25 2015 No.2712475 File: 1.43 MB, 1368x2332, 1288758521605.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712470 early sketches

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:51:34 2015 No.2712479 File: 1.19 MB, 1370x2330, 1288758632954.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712475

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:52:39 2015 No.2712483 File: 966 KB, 780x1206, 1379365954833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712479 >dat Robo

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 00:55:06 2015 No.2712490
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>>2712470
>>2712468
>>2712467
Sweet!

I'm glad we have another contributor

Here's an early Ocarina of Time screenshot

I really wish they'd have kept this. There's also a graveyard that looks bigger and creepier than the one in the final product.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:02:28 2015 No.2712501
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>>2712490
actually scratch that, it's hard to tell from this screenshot if the graveyard is bigger, but it is creepier in my opinion.

On the flipside, I'd rather have what we got rather than have big open spaces like in the forest screenshot and have invisible walls.

One thing I liked about OOT is that there are virtually no invisible walls, and they really do bug me.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:09:12 2015 No.2712506
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>>2712501
This is the earliest shot in the development cycle I could find

I would love to find a working copy of this build

You can easily see that the Octorocks were similar to the ones in A Link To The Past, and it's more obvious here that it was all based on the Mario 64 engine.

Also interesting, in this screenshot you only had a sword button and a weapon button, I imagine the c buttons at this point just controlled the camera like in Mario 64?

In any case I'm glad this was changed. Being able to hold many items at once was a great addition to OOT

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:15:07 2015 No.2712510
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>>2712506
And here as we all know is the beta Great Fairy, before they scrapped that and we ended up with Ms. Pointy-tits in a leotard

I guess that design is ok, but my favorite Great Fairy will always be the one from Twilight Princess, at the bottom of the cave of ordeals. I love those pouty lips

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:29:06 2015 No.2712525
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>>2712510
Early on this was going to be the temple of time

Honestly I'm glad they were able to raise the ceiling and make it a bit more majestic in the end, because this looks cramped and disappointing

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:47:48 2015 No.2712529 >>2712475 >>2712479 I like this more generic art style and the designs a lot more than the Toriyama stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:50:06 2015 No.2712532 File: 19 KB, 320x239, Z10_zps89795658[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712525 Here he is fighting what I think is a darknut Low levels of detail on the enemy. Still only 2 buttons shown so it's early

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 02:03:56 2015 No.2712545
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>>2712532
Weird statues

also

Early game trailers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDuyk_JmUmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQl0u-btza4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlMhzZXA0gk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8FX_Jfa0TQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57PHsWo4q0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWKPpkwIm3E

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 05:12:21 2015 No.2712725 >>2712374 >>2712384 >I have never seen cartoons in my life, not even RR

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:16:43 2015 No.2712948 >>2712337 >sonic_in_earthbound.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:23:02 2015 No.2712953 >>2712529 >I like this more generic art style and the designs a lot more than the Toriyama stuff. me too man me too

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:27:25 2015 No.2712961 >>2712337 sonic is like "come here and fukc me bare"

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:38:13 2015 No.2712973
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Borderline retro: FINAL FANTASY X Early Demo @ FFIX Announcement
January 31, 2000 "The journey home begins."

https://youtu.be/72vckLXI7x4

http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/02/01/square-millennium-event-final-fantasy-ix-x-and-xi-revealed

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 10:43:24 2015 No.2712976 >>2712529 Liking one style of Japanese art over another is basically just claiming you like the taste of cow shit as opposed to dog shit. They're all same-face garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 11:00:51 2015 No.2713003 File: 56 KB, 642x403, DukeNukem-Scroller05.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Duke Nukem Forever, back when it was supposed to be a sidescroller. That version was later turned into Alien Rampage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 11:03:45 2015 No.2713007 File: 6 KB, 316x77, j1b_ss7.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] early shots of Jazz Jackrabbit

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 11:11:19 2015 No.2713018 >>2712976 >comparing cow shit to dog shit You've obviously never eaten shit, pipe down you pleb

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 13:39:01 2015 No.2713198 File: 20 KB, 480x360, volcano.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712468 This really reminds me of the volcano from Secret of Evermore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 14:10:50 2015 No.2713238 File: 641 KB, 423x697, beta.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This was on the back of the box for Mario 3.This always messed me up as a kid. I thought there was a secret world hidden somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 15:04:41 2015 No.2713325 File: 50 KB, 511x441, betatruce.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712470 Here's another but not as exciting, the town plaza used to be bigger. No idea why they would shrink it since there's no reason to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 15:05:49 2015 No.2713327 File: 46 KB, 511x442, betazeal.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2713325 >tfw no bridges I wonder how they planned for you to get across

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 15:10:10 2015 No.2713331 >>2712291 >>2712294 >>2712308 Looks like a trademark 'casino themed' level to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 17:43:52 2015 No.2713561 >>2712280 You can see footage of the UFOs in Wayne's World

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 17:56:13 2015 No.2713584 >>2712263 I remember when some anón told the background was redrawn to be more pixelated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 17:58:03 2015 No.2713590 >>2712272 There is a romhack that recreates the beta.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 18:07:55 2015 No.2713609 >>2712483 What about that Ayla?.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 18:09:28 2015 No.2713612 Max Payne for Dreamcast beta footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVrMGger1Wc

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 18:26:06 2015 No.2713630 File: 46 KB, 700x525, aKP6M8j_700b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Early Gordon Freeman. Sorry for that ugly watermark.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 18:37:55 2015 No.2713651 >>2712284 It could also been blinking. You know, the fade in and out every frame effect.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Thu Oct 1 19:06:37 2015 No.2713703 >>2712961 Poor Little Blue Guy

>>	smokio Thu Oct 1 19:30:33 2015 No.2713778 >>2712408 looks like a robot master.

>>	smokio Thu Oct 1 19:31:46 2015 No.2713780 >>2712386 Eggman as a sleepy inventor hero is a weird notion

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 19:46:06 2015 No.2713808 >>2713238 Funny how 15 years later they actually delivered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mReUx77hCGo

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>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 22:33:23 2015 No.2714118 File: 80 KB, 225x172, nw-guardian-scan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://youtu.be/bjTZ_IcQ4Lg?t=165

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 22:46:00 2015 No.2714135 File: 1.48 MB, 1348x933, cgw_155_daikatana1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 02:52:58 2015 No.2714428 >>2713957 Nice reuse of Android 18.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 05:17:33 2015 No.2714583 >>2714428 Can you run this on android emulator?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 05:29:46 2015 No.2714591 >>2713630 This only reinforces my headcanon that if Gordon Freeman would talk, he'd have a thick hayseed accent. >You saved us, Gordon! >Naw shucks, it weren't nothing!

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 2 19:21:10 2015 No.2715746 File: 31 KB, 285x213, ffx-alpha1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712973

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Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:34:53 2015 No.2716239

Man that FFX build looks like a completely different game.

But the beta i would kill to play would be all the early builds of ocarina of time. I know a 64DD cart with an early version must exist somewhere, reading info on the development of OOT i saw that nintendo cut a lot of things and ideas, maybe some of those made it into the 64DD version or something like that.

Not retro but the 6th gen GTA betas are really interesting too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:57:10 2015 No.2716269 >>2713013 >that fat rayman cute

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 01:58:41 2015 No.2716272 >>2712973 Oh wow, a PlayOnline hintbook built into the game so that you can pay extra money to not have to figure stuff out for yourself. Honestly surprised this got taken out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:31:21 2015 No.2716498 >>2712501 I don't know if this is weird, but I've always found cemeteries IRL to be very tranquil and "comfy". The graveyard in OoT replicated that feeling, I liked it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 05:34:15 2015 No.2716504 >>2714135 What went wrong?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:18:15 2015 No.2716720 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdQO8_IMAk8&index=81&list=FLYgKD-ZEm63RkzgaTtl-L0g

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:32:10 2015 No.2716735 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtc8vLFCZSE part 2

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 10:48:34 2015 No.2716760 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8GHGt46VVU

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 16:03:33 2015 No.2717213

>>2713327
From a cursory glance, the caves, I would guess. Were they even in the Zeal we know? Lemme look it up.
Turns out that I'm right and wrong, both!
While yes: the released version of Zeal had the caves, it had /one less than the picture you posted/, the one just by the Landbridge/Skyway.
Likely, the caves were meant as a means across.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 16:29:20 2015 No.2717234
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>>2717213
>>2713327
I just whipped up a picture comparing the prerelease with the final version real quick. The real neat thing is the Sun Temple had a unique look instead of a simple rectangle.
Pretty interesting how much was different in that short of a period to release. The pre-release rom we have is only a few months off from being released.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 16:45:19 2015 No.2717249 >>2712412 That looks more like a pirate ROM hack than a prototype

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 17:04:17 2015 No.2717274 File: 229 KB, 580x719, chrono_smw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2717234

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 18:16:12 2015 No.2717378

>>2717234
That's neither the Sun Temple, Sun Keep, Sun Shrine nor Sun Palace. That's the North Palace/North Keep. The Sun Whateveryouwannacallit is the building towards the bottom left. The Sun Temple proper, where you put the moon stone to charge it up into the sun stone, isn't in Zeal at all.

Also, that's not a rectangle, but a pyramid. If you've never played the game, I could understand mistaking it for a tetrahedron, but not a rectangle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 18:28:33 2015 No.2717412 File: 410 KB, 640x480, CT_Alpha_Planes.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Alpha_Version_Screenshot.html Really early alpha version of CT found in Japanese magazines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 19:57:58 2015 No.2717542 >>2717412 thank god that didn't get off the ground

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:13:12 2015 No.2717796 >>2714135 >Samurai Game Designer John Romero

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 22:57:17 2015 No.2717849 File: 49 KB, 1278x479, paul.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] paul atreides's face changed between the demo and the final version of dune the original kinda fits the style of the game better than the maclachlan-ish one, i think

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:02:35 2015 No.2717857 File: 171 KB, 640x400, lostedencharacters.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2717849 the same team made lost eden, whose protagonist looks pretty similar to the older version of paul

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:07:36 2015 No.2717860 >>2712468 looks like the heckran cave but with lava instead of water.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:13:08 2015 No.2717868 >>2712254 >>2712291 >>2712294 >>2712308 >>2712309 >>2712314 i'm a diehard sonic beta fan but never seen these before. are these recently found?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:29:27 2015 No.2717892 File: 102 KB, 960x672, wipeout-design-document-144370864033.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2712254 The original Wipeout design docs were released 3 days ago

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:35:06 2015 No.2717897
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>>2717849
I'm glad they changed, the original one looked horrible. I'm sure it was just a placeholder too, considering that they used the movie designs for many characters in the game.

And the movie kind of immortalized how a lot of characters are considered to look as, to be honest.

Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:37:00 2015 No.2717902

>>2717892
>The original Wipeout design docs were released 3 days ago

Unrelated to that, but the Streets of Rage 2 design docs were released by Ancient a little while ago too. Vehelitis (the monster in the alien house) was meant to have been a sphinx-like body on a wall, complete with legs, and you could see a dude controlling his robot head in the background.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:38:31 2015 No.2717903 >>2717868 no, there have been are romhacks that attempted to restore that stuff

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:48:55 2015 No.2717918 >>2713013 Mr skops? neet

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:49:34 2015 No.2717919 >>2713561 I think that's literally the only time we've ever seen that beta in action. It's so weird how it was used in this one movie in this one scene for only a few seconds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 3 23:51:20 2015 No.2717923 >>2712341 Robotnik was meant to be a normal level enemy at first, I believe.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 00:22:03 2015 No.2717969

>>2717919
I wonder why it was used. Never seen the movie. Curious to know if Sega sent them a cartridge to be in the movie (why? promotional purposes?) or if maybe that beta was actually in limited circulation among media/convention groups at the time and one happened to show up in the film due to being on hand at the studio instead of being specifically requested from Sega (or by Sega to be in the movie).

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 00:23:53 2015 No.2717972 >>2717969 Well there is a joke about not-so subtle marketing in that movie, maybe it was part of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjB6r-HDDI0

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 02:24:05 2015 No.2718114

>>2717969
>Never seen the movie.

What is wrong with you? Go watch it immediately. It's excellent. As to why it was featured, one of the characters in it owns a chain of arcades so they needed games to show.

>>2717972
Wasn't the game footage part of the Noah's Arcade commercial? Without going back to see it I'd guess it was running in the background of that scene.

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 03:24:47 2015 No.2718169

>>2718114
I was about 3 when it came out and just never got around to seeing it, I guess.

As for the reason it was included, that makes sense, but I still wonder why an early version of Sonic? Did Sega send it to them for the purpose of using it in the movie? Did someone on the staff just happen to have the cart and received permission from Sega to use it? Was it just prerecorded footage?

Anonymous Sun Oct 4 05:54:19 2015 No.2718292

>>2712501
>>2712490
Looks like shit honestly. Wide open spaces with set pieces scattered around ala bubsy 3D. Meanwhile the final OoT is a cohesive world design that still holds up today.

I will say that this does look more like the NES Zelda in 3D, but it looks awful in general terms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 06:42:38 2015 No.2718341 >>2718292 >nostalgia shill

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 06:59:53 2015 No.2718360 This is a great thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:02:22 2015 No.2718578 >>2717868 Nope, you aren't as diehard as you think they been around for many many many years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 11:41:46 2015 No.2718635 >>2712394 looks more like a PD 1930s cartoon mascot

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:19:40 2015 No.2718750 >>2713238 I'd be surprised if someone hasn't remade that using Mario Maker at this point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:30:06 2015 No.2718767 >>2712309 Looks a lot more like the 8-bit version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 4 13:33:20 2015 No.2718770 File: 3.02 MB, 800x718, dom_proto_1_png.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This is the original "Dawn of Man" Age of Empires prototype. It was written in Delphi and fit on a floppy disk.

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