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[I AM THE BLACK KNIGHT No.2710475]

Give me your money edition

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>>2654775

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME PINBALL FAGGOT?

First you gotta have some things to play it with.

If you want some real deal pinball, https://pinside.com/pinball/map/where-to-play

If you can't go to any of those for any reason, there's pinball simulators.

http://pinballarcade.com/ is a widely popular one that simulates a bunch of classic tables but you either have to pay out the nose for DLC or torrent the damn thing.

http://vpuniverse.com/index.php/index.html is another one, requires a bit of fucking around but once you get it running you get all the free pinball you could ever want

Now there's some extra doohickeys if you need something extra.

http://ipdb.org/search.pl Info on tables

http://papa.org/learning-center/video-resources/tutorial-videos/ Tutorials

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/rec.games.pinball Pinball forum if the /vr/ general isn't up

http://papa.org/learning-center/video-resources/seminars/game-rulesheets/ Rulesheets

http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/ Repair guides

http://findapinball.com/ The map I said above but for Europoors


Also, our, one of our brotier anons is converting VP9 tables to the godly PM5:
https://mega.nz/#F!31EFjR4K!TLAHtCrT2P7REc7cbXTCAA

[Anonymous No.2710495]

Let's hope we can keep this going. The last thread lasted a long time. My league scores sucked balls tonight, but at least I got to shoot the shit with the old pros for hours on end. Also got that awesome glitch/possible easter egg on NES pinball where if you score high enough, the flippers turn invisible. Such a weird game.

[Anonymous No.2710498]

Let's hope we can keep this going. The last thread lasted a long time. My league scores sucked balls tonight, but at least I got to shoot the shit with the old pros for hours on end. Also got that awesome glitch/possible easter egg on NES pinball where if you score high enough, the flippers turn invisible. Such a weird game.

[Anonymous No.2711529]

What are the hardware system requirements to run PhysMod5 tables with Visual Pinball?

[Anonymous No.2711870]

>>2711529
Not much really, I used to be able to run it on my laptop, but I haven't tried it again. It's more than VP9 was, but that really wasn't terrible. Give it a whirl and see for yourself.

[Anonymous No.2712185]

Anyone love Midnight Magic.

[Anonymous No.2712447]

>>2712185
The Mrs. does.

[Anonymous No.2712472]

Reminder that everyone should watch TILT: The Battle to Save Pinball

[Anonymous No.2712489]

>>2712472
Not if they like that shitty machine.

[Anonymous No.2713573]

>>2712472
Special When Lit is worth watching too.

[Anonymous No.2713597]

>>2712472
>>2713573
The problem with both of these docs is that they're kind of old now and don't cover the modern pinball resurgence of the past 5 years or so.

[Anonymous No.2713632]

>>2713597
Has there actually been a resurgence? I know Jersey Jack opening increased the # of companies in the market by 100% but are they doing well? Are people spending money on pinball?

[Anonymous No.2713767]

>>2713632
There was a successful run by Spooky Games LLC, who funded their own table and sold out after making a not-insignificant number of units. The table is pretty spartan, but the execution of the theme is pretty fun. Dunno if they're going to follow up on it though.

[Anonymous No.2714030]

>>2713632
The collector's market has gone through the roof. Prices for tables are at an all time high. Stern is doing better now than they have been in the past decade or so. Some of the biggest pinball events have taken place the last 5 years. People are paying attention to pinball again.

[Anonymous No.2714053]

Any news on the Big Lebowski pin?

I got to play it once and it was great

[Anonymous No.2714213]

>>2713767
>not-insignificant number of units
150 isn't a lot. And while I've only played about 10 games on it, I feel the table leaves a lot to be desired. They are going to do a Rob Zombie table next as well.

[Anonymous No.2714230]

>>2714213
Oh, I musta added a trailing zero in my head when I read the number.

[Anonymous No.2714310]

>>2714030
Damn straight it has. Anything system 11 or newer has gotten too much for my bank account

[Anonymous No.2715267]

OK, if you've got a softmodded wii (which I presume everyone on /vr/ should have as it's great for emulation). Burn yourselves a copy of the Gottlieb AND the Williams collection. Or conversely buy them.

[Anonymous No.2715316]

>>2714030
What numbers are Stern pins selling at?
In the 90's peak Williams would consider 3000-4000 a success, would they not?
Stern crank out 3 new titles a year, how many units are they producing on average?

[Anonymous No.2715652]

What was the last pinball machine you played and what did you think of it?

[Anonymous No.2715674]

>>2715652
Medieval Madness
I hate trolls.

[Anonymous No.2715716]

>>2715652
Pinball for the NES.
It was ok.

[Anonymous No.2715742]

>>2715674
One thing I often forget about is if you get any "Troll Bombs" you can press the launch button to automatically hit them.

[Anonymous No.2715764]

>>2715674
>>2715716
Did you all want to expand on that? Do the trolls for you because it blocks the ball lock or it sends it back down the middle? and what makes NES pinball ok? bland tables? to easy or hard?

[Anonymous No.2715834]

>>2715764
NES pinball is decent, nothing spectacular, but certainly not mediocre either. It was either this one or Rollerball which had numerous extra flippers, and I always like tables with extra flippers beyond the bottom ones, it feels like there's more control that way.

I'm one of those guys from the past thread who haven't ever played a real pinball game, by the way. I will some day though.

I know there was a Pokémon themed pinball game for the Gameboy, but was there ever an actual physical table? I mean, Japan is probably lousy with all kinds of pachinko machines made on a Pokémon license, but I figure, Pokémon was so INCREDIBLY big in the late 90's/early 2000's, so it seems to me that maybe there could have been a table (not that pokémon isn't still big). Pic somewhat related, favorite pokémon.

[Anonymous No.2715883]

>>2715834
Pinball is almost exclusively an American thing. There's some popularity in Europe (especially Germany), but in Japan it never really caught on. Most licensed themed pinball games are based on American or European properties (Comic books, movies, music, etc.)

[Anonymous No.2716086]

>>2715883

[Anonymous No.2716348]

>>2715316
cool pinball, Ahmed.

[Anonymous No.2716840]

>>2715883
That's not entirely true.
Pinball is an American institution yes, but it was illegal in many American cities for decades up until the mid 1970s. The American pinball companies thrived on marketing their games to europe and other countries. Having an American theme was a big draw in Europe and elsewhere as USA was always considered the home of the best table manufacturers.
Europe had pinball companies like Playmatic and Zaccaria among others.
>Japan it never really caught on
Capcom and Data East are japanese you know and they made pinball.

>pic related, Spanish made pinball with a USA theme

[Anonymous No.2716853]

Look at this Euro beast

[Anonymous No.2717141]

>>2716840
>Capcom and Data East are japanese you know and they made pinball.

Ignorant bullshit about two Chicago companies

[Anonymous No.2717253]

Sega Japan was producing its own pinballs locally for two short periods of time; 1971-1973 and 1976-1979. The 1970s were the golden age of Japanese-made pinballs. Up until that time, most of the pinballs were made in the USA and the prices were very high. In a typical amusement centre it would cost ￥50 per game for American-made pinballs. This was simply not affordable for most Japanese at that time.

As a result, Sega Japan started to produce a series of electromechanical pinballs in 1971. The price of Sega pinballs was only ￥30 per game, and so these became very popular in Japanese society.

[Anonymous No.2717384]

>>2717253
>only ￥30 per game
>flyer clearly shows ￥50 per game
Uh huh, champ.

[Anonymous No.2717638]

Fucking Pinbot is such a charming character. I'd love to have all three tables side by side, plus anything like Taxi where he makes a cameo.

>LOOK OVER THERE

>Where?

>BOX CARS

>Trying to cheat?

[Anonymous No.2717802]

>>2717638
Ice cream + split pea soup

[Anonymous No.2718046]

Anyone knows the machine in the background with the skulls? It`s from Jaws 2. IMDB and google came up with nothing.

[Anonymous No.2718053]

>>2718046
It's Death Race. The first controversial video game ever. Dat delicious scream as you run over the "gremlins"

[Anonymous No.2718069]

>>2718053
Oh cool, thanks. I thought it was a pinball in the back. The guy in the front is playing one, but they dont show it.

[Anonymous No.2718074]

>>2717638
I always thought "Son of Pinbot" or "Pinbot Jr." would be a nice followup. The rules would consist of raising Pinbot Jr., with the endgame being to make him a successful adult robot.

[Anonymous No.2718145]

>>2717384
I'm quoting the owner of a Japanese pinball museum, the flyer is something I just googled.
You got something worthwhile to contribute, champ?

[Anonymous No.2718765]

>>2715652
Walking Dead.

Its a very boring table with nothing to shoot at. The pop bumpers slow the game down too much, the well walker in the middle of the field is dumb, and the safehouse/barn is so uninteresting. I don't get any sort of progression either, just a bunch of zombie noises constantly getting killed.

[Anonymous No.2718857]

Never been into pinball, but I've wanted to build a fairly complete "arcade"/game room so its kind of a staple.

Don't care to invest much into it, so how are those "Zazzle" pinball 3/4 machines?

[Anonymous No.2718862]

>>2718857
Sorry "Zizzle" pinball machines. My mistake. Clearly I dont know pinball.

[Anonymous No.2719041]

>>2718857
>>2718862
They're toys, they feel like toys, you'll be bored with them within the same day you bought them. You really should at least try out some of the digital representations of pinball and really learn what makes it so deep

[Anonymous No.2719170]

>>2718765
The 1.41 code is actually complete, but operators don't load it onto machines, preferring to leave launch code on: people launch the ball, watch it STDM, repeat 2x, and then the next person in line puts in $1.

Why update that? So check the code version.

[Anonymous No.2719180]

>>2719041
I agree. Honestly a computer with Pinball Arcade or Virtual Pinball in your game room would be more "authentic" that that shit.

[Anonymous No.2719185]

>>2719170
I believe I have played on the new code though. Is there a way to check without opening the door? And updated code or not, I'm still not a fan of the layout and flow of the table.

[Anonymous No.2719339]

FEEL THE POWER OF THE WIND

[Anonymous No.2719450]

>>2719339
Does anyone have that pic of the Whirlwind table modded with a leaf blower?

[Anonymous No.2719962]

>>2718765
That sounds like the show itself.

[Anonymous No.2721197]

>>2719450

[Anonymous No.2721353]

>>2721197
Thanks pin-anon

[Anonymous No.2723097]

Do you all nudge and shake the machine when you play? How often do you tilt if at all?

I think I tilt more than most people I play with but only because I live in pic related.

[Anonymous No.2723224]

>>2723097
Do it all the time. Only tilted once.

[Anonymous No.2723246]

>>2723097
Depends on the table. Later tables are actually built with bumping in mind; there's literally shots you can't make and bonuses you can't hit without bumping the table. Super old tables/rare tables that are a bitch to maintain are considered bad manners to bump. If in doubt, ask the owner.

Gorgar is notorious for draining down the left lane. More often than not if I'm playing Gorgar I'm slapping it around like a cheap whore.

[Anonymous No.2723278]

>>2716840
Except the Capcom, Data East, and Sega pinball divisions were all run by Americans living in Chicago.

Data East and Sega later turned into Stern, who still produce machines today.

[Anonymous No.2723301]

>>2723246
>there's literally shots you can't make and bonuses you can't hit without bumping the table

Could you list any that aren't death saves? I'm genuinely curious because I'm having trouble thinking of any.

[Anonymous No.2723460]

>>2712472
>>2712489

Lol, I have a SWE1 pin in the corner. I like it cunt face.

[Anonymous No.2723496]

>>2723460
>I like it
>but not enough to turn it on

[Anonymous No.2723513]

>>2723496

Yes because people leave their pinball machines on 24/7...

[Anonymous No.2723535]

>>2723278
Joe Kamincow had a spy at Williams, he was dumpster diving over at Capcom and then Larry DeMar was taking shit to him from Williams at night.

-topcast42

[Anonymous No.2723541]

Claude Fernandez is a bitch who moves in with people and their new wife just so he can steal their top pinball designs and move to Bally.

Flash #1? Black Knight #1? FUCK YOU I steal your game FLASH GORDON LOL have fun selling half the BKs.

Ultimate pinball bitch = Claude Fernandez

[Anonymous No.2723646]

>>2723513
Well I certainly wouldn't leave a chair in front of it.

But you couldn't be bothered to turn it on because it's not plugged in and there is a bunch of shit stored under it and in the way but you tried to make up for it by not so slyly getting earthbound in the picture too.

Turn it on and lets see those highscores cunt face :)

[Anonymous No.2724079]

>>2723646
Shots fired

[Anonymous No.2725349]

>>2724079
bump for results

[Anonymous No.2725527]

>>2725349
My guess is that Mr. Ep I was planning on some sort of comeback pic with his machine on, but he can't get it to work again.

If he had to pick a Pinball 2000 machine, it should have been Revenge from Mars.

[Anonymous No.2725991]

>>2725527
In his defense the pic indicates that he is a Star Wars fan/collector so I assume his motivation for owning the machine was dictated by theme rather than being a knowledgeable pinball connoisseur wanting a decent table

[Anonymous No.2726040]

>>2725991
>Star Wars collecting
>prequel memorabilia
Wasn't there ever any older Star Wars tables? I'd much rather have that then the Episode 1 table.

[Anonymous No.2726058]

>>2726040
There's been a few made over the years, the most popular is The Data East table from 92.

Disregarding the poor content of both the prequel movies and the playability of the Ep1 table. It is an impressive and unique looking pinball, sure to impress any casual person or "le-nerdy-bazinga" type who thinks anything Star Wars is the pinnacle of nerd culture.
I mean, how many people are even aware that the Pinball 2000 machines exist? The mirrored display video alone is a sight to behold, yes, even if it is of that Jar Jar fuck and the annoying Vader kid.

[Anonymous No.2726060]

And here's Sega's Star Wars Trilogy from 97

[Anonymous No.2726104]

>>2715267
>>2719041
>>2719180

Zizzle guy here again.

Really? Pinball video games are good? I've played some but I always felt that part of the appeal of pinball was seeing the entire board/table.

I've played a limited number of pinball video games and other than Space Cadet Pinball on Windows (Which I very much enjoyed), they all do the stupid half screen scrolling thing.

I have a semi-mame set up (Modded OG Xbox, Sega Saturn, OG Wii & BC PS3) with an X-Arcade (don't judge...its just easier). I'll look into the Wii PinBall games suggested.

[Anonymous No.2726138]

>>2726104
The appeal IS the entire board/table; the physicality and real experience of it. It can never be truly emulated but some of the stuff currently going on like Pinball Arcade is the next best thing and are great digital representations of real machines.
Lot's of fun too.

[Anonymous No.2726151]

>>2726104
>Really? Pinball video games are good?
Some are.
I heard KISS Pinball for the PS1 was pretty bad, though on the flip side, it was only 10 dollars when it was new.
However, Space Cadet is gr8 m8, I r8 8/8.

Also, some people don't have any pinball tables anywhere close to where they live, so if it allows them to get their fix at home, that's always a thing.

[Anonymous No.2726168]

>>2726151
Speaking of Space Cadet, has anyone ever tried to make a real life Space Cadet table?

[Anonymous No.2726184]

>>2726104
>Pinball video games are good?
Pro pinball is literally the only series to bother with if you are interested in amazing physics and Visual pinball 10 is around the corner which is going to be great to.

>>2726138
>Pinball Arcade is the next best thing
Fuck off is it pinball arcade is total shit, wank physics, wank 3d and poorly optimized.. the fucking ball doesn't even have a spin model or anything I mean it literally couldn't be a poorer representation of real life, Visual pinball 10/physmod5 is currently by FAR the best recreations of real life tables and pro pinball still has the best physics of all time.

>>2726104
they all do the stupid half screen scrolling thing.
Pro pinball is fixed full table view, pinfx2 has fixed full table view, visual pin is fixed full table view and even pinball arcade has it sounds to me like you've only played shit pinball games.

[Anonymous No.2726198]

>>2726184
"some of the stuff currently going on like Pinball Arcade is the next best thing"

Learn to read you salty fuck

[Anonymous No.2726515]

Best table of all time reporting in

[Anonymous No.2726598]

>>2726151
Creep Night Pinball.
Timeshock.

[Anonymous No.2726624]

I can't stand pinball video games. It completely ruins the appeal of a physical game, man vs. machine, and all that. The experience just can't be properly recreated in digital form, even if the physics are "accurate".

[Anonymous No.2726845]

>>2726624
No shit. But you can't stand them? There are a ton of sports games and driving games that are great. Is it the same as doing it in real life? Of course not but they are still fun.

[Anonymous No.2727286]

>>2726198
Pinball Arcade is total shit with shit physics, ball doesn't even spin, flipper passes are emulated. Learn to read. Can't even catch in Pinball Arcade (until they add "catch emulation" or some bullshit)

[Anonymous No.2727467]

>>2727286
>shit physics
>ball doesn't even spin
>flipper passes are emulated
It's like you've never even played it.

[Anonymous No.2727679]

>>2727467
>can't even into 1000 Hz physics framerate
>can't into fixed physics timestep
>can't emulate ball spin, rotational effects, increased spin from movement and objects
>can't into spin recalculations on the fly due to collisions
>can't simulate friction on contact and collisions
>can't convert translational kinetic energy into rotational energy until entering a natural roll
>can't simulate flippers as true dynamic rigid bodies with forces from the solenoid, return spring, and ball's effects
>can't bounce ball off flippers correctly
>can't tap pass, cradle separate, drop catch, live catch
>can't simulate friction of flipper rubbers

But you've got your emulated post passes

[Anonymous No.2727708]

>>2727467
He's just salty because he bought a few tables and feels that no one else should be able to enjoy the same game without also wasting a few hundred dollars.

>>2727679
See?

[Anonymous No.2727759]

>>2727708
You can get a whole season's worth of tables for 15 dollars when they go on sale. 22 tables for 15 dollars is good shit, but most people want all the new stuff. Hell I have about 17 hours in that game and 7 hours was just spent dicking around in trial mode.

[Anonymous No.2727823]

>>2727708
>See?
That wasn't even me it was someone else but it's very true Pinball arcade is utter shit, the ball visually spins in pinball arcade but it does nothing on the effect of the ball. If you think it's good then il have to assume you're a shit player who has never played a real table or is to amateur to even notice the difference. Go play timeshock to see what good physics look/feel like but lemme guess you'd do that then try claiming it sucks because you realise how much harder pinball is with decent physics.

>>2727467
>It's like you've never even played it.
Not him but i'l bet my bollock you don't have a single score better than mine so feel free to post one and we can see who plays it. It's still total shit though.

[Anonymous No.2727828]

>>2726198
>"some of the stuff currently going on like Pinball Arcade is the next best thing"
>Learn to read you salty fuck
I did and that's why im saying it isnt the next best thing you thick fucking sack of cum. Visual pin is the next best thing and the pc release of ultra timeshock will no doubt take the top spot. Dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.2727834]

>>2727759
>Hell I have about 17 hours in that game
Lmao proving my point as to why you fucks are so clueless. I think the game is shit and still have a couple hundred hours in it all of those btw spent actually playing.

[Anonymous No.2728102]

>that guy who always shits up the pinball thread over "muh realism"
>that guy who tells you that "that table is shit and you shouldn't play it because I say so" in every pinball thread

When I'm not out playing real pinball I enjoy my totally free pirated version of Pinball Arcade as a fine substitute

[Anonymous No.2728114]

>>2715834
Pokemon Pinball was the GOAT portable console pinball

[Anonymous No.2728305]

>>2728102
At least someone gets it. I'm convinced the people arguing over the video games don't play real pinball enough.

[Anonymous No.2728379]

mfw I don't hit anything and I don't get the ball save

[Anonymous No.2728641]

>>2728102
If you are going to enjoy free why not opt for superior visual pinball? That is fucking retarded son.

[Anonymous No.2728879]

Here is a recent Drunk History episode that talked about when pinball was outlawed

http://vodlocker.com/5nnykkfahsoy

[Anonymous No.2728950]

>mfw i hit a ball so hard into a slighshot it flies over the flipper railing and into the drain

[Anonymous No.2728967]

>>2727834
and you're obsessed over flaws. I accept that it is video game pinball and not a 1:1 replacement or sim.

[Anonymous No.2728985]

I can't stand real pinballs and real physics. I only like sonic spinball

[Anonymous No.2729581]

>>2728879
I saw this when it aired and it was a nice surprise. I love that story.

[Anonymous No.2729939]

>>2728985
Enjoy your shit physics and being able to control sonic mid air. I only ride the roller coaster.

[Anonymous No.2729976]

>>2728641
Can you simplify it for me?
Seriously.
It's a major drag just looking into the process of installing it.

[Anonymous No.2729981]

>>2728950
>tfw the slingshots seem like they're set to fuck you over

[Anonymous No.2730168]

>>2729981
>tfw you still go back to the table anyway because you're not gonna let a soulless machine push you around
It still does.

[Anonymous No.2730217]

>>2730168
>tfw you get one good game out of a million, get the wizard mode and it's like the table wants you to never leave it.

Seriously, I've wasted so much on this table trying to get the monsters lit. The one time that i did I got it thrice, instruments lit as well. Full Monster Bash Multiball a few times.
Only on that one game
It's like a mockery, it has a soul and it gets off on your losses

[Anonymous No.2730831]

I finally found a copy of High speed, the last NES pinball game to complete my set today, but I found something I wanted even more. Crueball in the fucking box with the manual. This thing looks factory fresh. I've never found a used game in this nice of shape. 6 fucking dollars, holy fuck I'm playing some pinball tonight.

[Anonymous No.2730834]

I finally found a copy of High speed, the last NES pinball game to complete my set today, but I found something I wanted even more. Crueball in the fucking box with the manual. This thing looks factory fresh. I've never found a used game in this nice of shape. 6 fucking dollars, holy fuck I'm playing some pinball tonight.

[Anonymous No.2731043]

>>2730834
That's awesome

[Anonymous No.2731256]

I've become more than a bit charmed by the nuances of Nintendo's launch title pinball on the nes. I don't know what it is, but I played the game for fucking hours when I picked it up. There's so much weird shit going on, like your flippers going invisible when you hit 10000 points. Today, just for shits and giggles, I gave the Vs. Arcade version a whirl, and now I'm wishing I had a real Vs. cabinet for this one, or at least a NES conversion reproduction. All those extras are so nice that the nes version feels like a pale prototype. This stuff fascinates the shit out of me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXypHXRLL-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrsly10VCu0

[Anonymous No.2731305]

also; come at my vs. pinball score bro

[Anonymous No.2731687]

>>2731256
I probably sound like an entitled shit, but why does this game look so much worse than other NES games? The artwork is MS Paint level, no textures, no structures. I know the NES can do better, it did in plenty other games. This looks like interns worked on this.

[Anonymous No.2731846]

>>2731687
It was a famicom launch title, they were just starting to learn what their machine was capable of. They were making basic games like popeye and golf at the time, which still looked miles better than anything a gen2 console had done up till that point.

[Anonymous No.2732225]

Anyone played Tommy? I almost drained laughing so hard when the blinders came out.

[Anonymous No.2734776]

>>2714030
I bet it's in part due to video games finally being able to deliver good simulations. Before we got super-beefy GPUs it wasn't easy or well-known where to find good simulators, and now we have TPA and Pinball FX2 to draw in more attention to the game.

[Anonymous No.2734778]

>>2715652
Black Knight, it kicked my ass and I was upset.

Alternatively, Pokemon Pinball. That game is boss.

[Anonymous No.2734789]

>>2718046
wow, never noticed death race in the back.

Incidentally, there's a place in Cincinnati that has both Death Race and Computer Space.

[Anonymous No.2734791]

>>2721197
any videos of someone playing it?

Preferably someone with long hair, I want a wee giggle.

[Anonymous No.2734967]

>>2719450
>>2721197
>>2734791
(skip to 1:09)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD4-X0wRBAE

You're welcome.

[Anonymous No.2736460]

FREE GAME

[Anonymous No.2736731]

Had you propelled the ball along the proper trajectory, you would have been rewarded.

[Anonymous No.2736746]

>>2736731
Thank you, Mr. Data.

[Anonymous No.2737765]

>>2728379

This hurts. I know it was another time, and they WERE used for illegal shit, but oh man, that hurts.

Electromechanical Pins are impressive, if you've ever seen the guts of them. Small triumphs of engineering.

>>2736731
>>2736746

One of the best bonuses in Pinball.

[Anonymous No.2737767]

>>2737765

[Anonymous No.2737783]

>>2737765
>>2737767

I posted this in the previous pinball thread.
I've no experience with the intricacies of pinball outward of actually playing them.
I found this on ebay and I'd love to see it restored to its former glory.

[Anonymous No.2737785]

>>2737783

[Anonymous No.2737786]

>>2737785

[Anonymous No.2737789]

>>2737786

[Anonymous No.2737791]

>>2737789

[Anonymous No.2738281]

Please tell me I'm not crazy, but from the games I've played, Pinball Arcade has RNG physics.

Lemme explain, out of ten games, nine I have are godawful because it either goes straight down the middle or falls off to the sides, but the one game I had in those ten games is phenomenal even for Leaderboard standards.

So are Pinball Arcade's physics completely random? Its not skill based?

[Anonymous No.2738402]

>>2738281
No, they're just bad. This kinda thing happens in real pinball to me. I'll play like shit round after round then randomly I'll play like I'm fucking Tommy.

[Anonymous No.2738421]

>>2738281
nah you play like an idiot. Pinball is about controlling or at least trying to control it.

[Anonymous No.2738424]

>>2738281
No, the physics are sound. They're not hyper-realistic, but they're sound.

The problem you're having seems like you just need to get a bit more precision on your shots, or you're playing a dick table and happen to avoid the nasty places every once in a while.

[Anonymous No.2738446]

>>2712185
A most impressive effort on the Atari 2600:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A6naeMFmyY

[Anonymous No.2738475]

>Spend two fucking hours downloading the PM5 shit
>MEGA refuses to give me the file
There aren't enough fucks for this.

[Anonymous No.2738739]

Played Crueball into the wee hours of the night and made it all the way to volume level 9. Good god the music is so good, which isn't surprising considering it's the same dude who did Black Knight 2000's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eVyG4pzJA

[Anonymous No.2738741]

Played Crueball into the wee hours of the night and made it all the way to volume level 9. Good god the music is so good, which isn't surprising considering it's the same dude who did Black Knight 2000's soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eVyG4pzJA

[Anonymous No.2739017]

>>2738741
They hired Steve Ritchie to do the music for a pinball video game but not the design?

[Anonymous No.2739108]

>>2738741
>it's the same dude who did Black Knight 2000's soundtrack.
If you mean Brian Schmidt, he's done way more than just BK2K.

Space Station and Swords of Fury come to mind as standouts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYxjEAXrLho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMIp5nG-C3o

In my opinion, Swords of Fury has the best pinball soundtrack of the System 11 era because of the way it builds over the course of the game and sets a perfect tone for the gameplay. Plus it has the badass multiball tune.

[Anonymous No.2739507]

>>2738475
In short, can somebody upload the pack to a not shit file service, even Google Drive will work

[Anonymous No.2739514]

>>2738446
Does it only use the one button to hit both flippers?
Looks great apart from that, I can't beleive I hadn't played it before.
I only remember this one

[Anonymous No.2739893]

Over a hundred posts in and no mention of Pinball Dreams or Pinball Fantasies? For shame, /vr/!

[Anonymous No.2739902]

>>2739893
Because it's an ongoing general, real pinball and current simulators get preference and discussion over older pinball video games you sperg.
If you want to discuss those games, bring them up, just don't expect every video iteration of pinball to be mentioned in the first 100 replies because you suddenly found a pinball thread and aren't familiar with it.

[Anonymous No.2740271]

CFTBL is the most overrated pinball table of all time.

[Anonymous No.2740273]

>>2740271

[Anonymous No.2740282]

>>2740271
Give us your reasoning behind that ludicrous statement

[Anonymous No.2740604]

Thanks to the anon who mentioned this, quickly becoming one of my favourite titles on the 2600

[Anonymous No.2740660]

What's the general opinion on the upcoming timeshock! table? Any ballpark estimates on its price?

[Anonymous No.2740661]

>>2740282
He can't handle the extra 1/4" gap between the flippers and doesn't know the rules

[Anonymous No.2741451]

>>2740660
about tree fiddy

[Anonymous No.2741459]

>>2740661
It has a larger gap?
I had no idea, i mean, something like Fish Tales is noticeable as the flippers are slightly smaller but I never thought that Creature had a larger gap between the flippers than your average pin.

[Anonymous No.2741643]

>>2740282
>Move Your Car is probably the easiest challenge in pinball history
>Snackbar is so full of random shite outside that its near impossible to hit
>Hologram, the "WOW" factor of the table pops up for two seconds
>Larger gap
>Not based on the ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE

[Anonymous No.2741671]

>>2740271
>>2741643
I don't think it is an overrated table. Looking at the top 100 tables on pinside and I see a lot of shitty tables ranked higher than creature up there but at least you have reasons for not liking it.

As it is my all time favorite table though, let me offer some counterpoints to yours...
>Move Your Car is probably the easiest challenge in pinball history
Getting your car started isn't terribly difficult but you still need to hit the ball up there between the ramp and snack bar. The hard part is maximizing the score for it and being able to hit it up there quickly and consecutively.
>Snackbar is so full of random shite outside that its near impossible to hit
I don't fully understand this but snackbar can definitely be a hard shot if you are using the right flipper. Try backhanding it up the ramp to get to your left flipper for an easier shot.
>Hologram, the "WOW" factor of the table pops up for two seconds
Personally I find it is a really cool gimmick that doesn't interfere with the gameplay and fits with the art style and theme quite well.
>Larger gap
It sucks when it drains but I think this adds to the difficulty of the table and tests your nudging skills.
>Not based on the ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE
Come on, if you have played it you know its suppose to be a cheesy drive-in movie joke.

[Anonymous No.2741678]

>>2741643
>Not based on the ACTUAL FUCKING MOVIE
This again?
It is about the movie, it's also about GETTING to the movie by way of a classic 50's drive-in movie experience. It's a theme within a theme, after you rack up your points you start the movie then you're rescuing your chick from the creature, there's your mode based on the movie itself. It's pretty fucking ingenious the way it incorporated 50's teen rock n roll drive in culture with a licensed movie of the era.
There are shit-tons of just straight up movie licensed tables, CFTBL actually did something original and unique.
It's a fucking blast to play.

[Anonymous No.2742347]

>>2739507
Still waiting, its my 7th try now

[Anonymous No.2742792]

>>2741459
The Shadow might also but Creature definitely has the larger gap.

The rules are fairly cryptic. The bonus carries over but can reset to 2x from 6x since it also spots a FILM letter. FILM completed in sequence grants 8 million bonus. Start 2-ball multiball and you've got to find the Creature then rescue the girl then increase jackpots by spiraling around the vortex and somehow eventually get to Super Jackpots in the (snackbar?)

It's hard to tell where the FILM shots are on the table. You can cheese F by blowing slowly past the skill shot down to the left flipper. All sorts of things like that.

Lots going on in the game.

[Anonymous No.2742794]

>>2741643
>he's never found the Creature

[Anonymous No.2743284]

>>2742792
You can skillshot F by watching KISS light up and plunging back all the way at the right time. You should probably always do this on the first ball but if I mess up with spelling FILM in order I usually just just go for lighting PAID instead regardless of if I have L.

Snackbar is the hardest or most dangerous to get. For those not aware, you are trying to light all 4 blue targets in front of the snackbar scoop. Hitting pop bumpers will cycle which ones are lit and shootings the scoop will automatically light one. The scoop is definitely the safest but is hard to hit with the right flipper so I'll hit the targets on the left if they both aren't lit, otherwise I'll backhand it up the right ramp to the left flipper for the scoop.

[Anonymous No.2743304]

>>2740604
It's almost as good looking as a 7800 game, but a 7800 would have been awesome.

[Anonymous No.2744185]

>>2743284
Don't forget when the pervert creeps into your car as you start the third reel and you have to kick the shit out of him Punch Out style.

[Anonymous No.2745005]

will we ever get another price crash?

i cant be spending $7000 for a pin

[Anonymous No.2745020]

>>2745005
What are you eyeing? Which machines and which price tag.

[Anonymous No.2745038]

>>2745020

I think a lot of people have tables like Twilight Zone and Medieval Madness on their dream lists, and those typically run that high

Setting my sights a bit lower, I'd be thrilled with a Power Play, Captain Fantastic, or Genie. I love the early SS era. Those seem to run around from 2-5k around here nowadays

I figure half of it is from being around NYC, and the other half is the market bubble.

[Anonymous No.2745059]

>>2745038
new machines seem to cost that much, pretty brutal prices for old machines. I know, rare and sought after items and all that, but still

The artwork in your post is gorgeous

[Anonymous No.2745072]

>>2745059
half of what makes a table good and memorable is an interesting theme

ive never been a fan of modern stern and their need to connect every table with whatever the flavor of the month is, but i guess that's what sells. in the short term, at least

not that licensed themes are automatically bad. i fuckin love the original KISS table. but did we really need another one in 2015?

[Anonymous No.2745145]

I just tried to play Creature From the Black Lagoon on The Pinball Arcade and got this score on my first try. So much easier than a real machine.

[Anonymous No.2745147]

>>2745145
Can you elaborate on the difference you experienced?

[Anonymous No.2745157]

>>2745147
There are a lot of differences that add up but the two main things are how easy it is to nudge the ball the way you want and how strong the flippers are to launch the ball up the left ramp.

It's still a great way to learn the rules of a table though.

[Anonymous No.2745215]

>tfw no love for the cocktail tables
>tfw next to impossible to play out in the wild

[Anonymous No.2745243]

>>2726184
>>2727286
>>2727828
>>2726198

Jesus, this is a heated exchange.

[Anonymous No.2745248]

you guys like the zaccaria pinball app on android?

ive never seen a non-american table in person, so this is like the next best thing

[Anonymous No.2745425]

>>2745005
Judge Dredd is $1800 all day

[Anonymous No.2745426]

>>2745072
They're a manufacturing plant working with time-limited licenses, why would they care what sells once the license expires (other than what next thing sells)

[Anonymous No.2745429]

>>2745072
Also all the songs on new KISS are re-recorded with half the original band members gone

And Big Lebowski will have no Creedence. Not even the fucking Eagles.

[Anonymous No.2745436]

>>2745429
i got to play Lebowski when it had all the un-approved songs and art in it still. Shit was great, but they got in a shit ton of trouble for showing it like that

[Anonymous No.2745439]

>>2745436

[Anonymous No.2745458]

>>2745248
why were there no canadian pins

theyre like america jr

[Anonymous No.2745463]

>>2745458
Canadian people just came to Chicago to work on pinball

[Anonymous No.2745692]

>>2745248
>zaccaria pinball app
Awesome, didn't know of it. Installing now...

[Anonymous No.2745707]

Is there a place to download Visual Pinball table packs or should i just get them one by one?

[Anonymous No.2745720]

>>2745157
Yeah, I use Pinball Arcade to get familiar with rules while I play on my phone while taking the train to work or something. I go to a rad pinball arcade about half an hour away for the real deal.

[Anonymous No.2745816]

>>2745707
Last thread had heaps of links n shit, too bad the archive is royally fucked

[Anonymous No.2745834]

>>2745707
See the Mega.nz link in the first post. It has a download directory and shit.

[Anonymous No.2746028]

>>2745215

Played a cocktail pin at a local pinball show during the summer. It was really odd, playing pinball sitting down.

Set a (rather sad) high score after just a couple games! It was only a bit over half the #1 score though...

[Anonymous No.2746041]

tinyDOTcc/PhysMod5

[Anonymous No.2746224]

WELCOME TO MY NIGHTMARE

[Anonymous No.2746238]

>>2746224
IF YOU SHOULD DIE BEFORE YOU WAKE...

[Anonymous No.2746437]

>>2745147
>Can you elaborate on the difference you experienced?
Jesus christ how can you even need to ask this? Pinball arcades physics is shit and massively simplified over the real deal, irl you are dealing with variables of spin,bounce,speed changes etcetc with pinball arcade you are dealing with dumbed down everything and a preset nudge to abuse easily. You will never get better at pinball playing shitty pin arc. Pro pinball on the other hand you can learn a lot.

[Anonymous No.2746792]

>>2746437
It's like you go out of your way to shit on Pinball Arcade every time it's mentioned.

>Pro pinball on the other hand you can learn a lot.
>implying you are going to learn anything besides rules on video game pinball.
And what good is that going to do for you if you can't play those games in real life?

[Anonymous No.2747276]

>>2745692
This is an accurate depiction of pinball tournaments. Nothing but hot chicks wanting to be plunged.

[Anonymous No.2747298]

>>2746792
Showing your ignorance once again, seriously if you for a second have to ask the difference between pin arc and real life you must be an absolute beginner. Fyi pro pinball has such good flipper physics it is very much transferable to real life, I play real machines every weekend and pro pinball in the week it makes a lot of difference. It isn't just about learning rules ffs do you even know any of the fundamental flipper skills? Stop being a clueless bastard.

[Anonymous No.2747329]

>>2747298
>No reading comprehension
>doubling down on insults
>I'm a real pro, trust me

[Anonymous No.2747332]

>>2747298
I wasn't the one asking what the difference was, I was the one explaining what the difference was here
>>2745157

That's nice you like pro pinball so much but flipper skills are basic and even then they vary from table to table. So yeah, I still think learning the rules to a table is more valuable then practicing your flipper skills on a video game.

[Anonymous No.2747618]

>>2747298
>>2747332

[Anonymous No.2748213]

The guy must have shares in Pro pinball to be shilling this hard

[Anonymous No.2748442]

>>2748213
whats the deal with hitler

[Anonymous No.2748462]

>>2748442
Holy shit, that really is him.

[Anonymous No.2748507]

>>2748442
and is that Charles Manson in the back?

[Anonymous No.2748917]

>>2748442
Artist Dave Christensen included in the backglass several depictions of people doing things that, at first, escaped notice by Bally management. A small number of games with these so-called "X-rated" or "uncensored" backglasses made it through production before changes were required to be made.

[Anonymous No.2749052]

>>2748917
Well I hope they kept all the tits.

[Anonymous No.2749060]

Have any New England Anons been to the Pinball Wizard Arcade in Pellham, NH? They've got like 200 pinball machines and a shitton of other retro arcade games, it's the fucking bomb. Highly reccomended.
I seriously hope nobody ITT mistakes this post for advertising, it's just one of the only two arcades in New Hampshire that are worth a damn and it's highly underrated.

[Anonymous No.2749067]

>>2749060
Yes, and I love the place. I'm upset that they got rid of their Black Lagoon table though. Their Groupon deal almost makes it ok though.

[Anonymous No.2749337]

Anyone else excited to play the hobbit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtMlu_DHW4g

[Anonymous No.2749493]

>>2749067
When she gets rid of one it probably means it went to join the other copy in the back room for maintenance.

[Anonymous No.2749494]

>>2749337
In 2021 when Keefer finishes the rules. The tale the rules will tell will still be inferior to LotR due to Hackson's ways.

[Anonymous No.2749510]

>>2749494
What do you mean by Hackson's ways?

[Anonymous No.2749547]

>>2749494
>>2749510
Oh nvm. Peter Jackson. Got it.

Yeah I definitely prefer LotR over Hobbit as movies, and greatly enjoy the LotR machine but if the Hobbit has the same quality and depth as WoZ (which it is looking like it does) I'll be happy.

If anything the Hobbit has to be better than the GoT table right?

[Anonymous No.2749556]

>>2749494
be glad it's not a collection of 3 huge tables with nothing on them

[Anonymous No.2749604]

>>2749556
I had to reach pretty high to get that kek, good anon, because it was all the way at the top.

[Anonymous No.2749636]

>>2749556
good one

[Anonymous No.2749956]

TLotR isn't even that good a table. Compare it to most of what Williams released in the 90's and it falls short.
A complicated rule set doesn't make a table a classic.

[Anonymous No.2749957]

>>2749956
what makes a table a classic?

[Anonymous No.2749961]

>>2749957
Design, quality, originality and good craftsmanship

Some things many Stern tables are lacking

[Anonymous No.2750248]

Trying to convert a VP6 table to VP9 AND rotating it too. Of course there's no option to rotate text boxes, so I guess that fake DMD is stuck that way.
>Check the forums
>someone is requesting a way to rotate text boxes
>Hurr yer dumb for wanting a simple feature, just use Reels instead
>Reels are totally different and require a completely different set of instruction

It sure would be nice if I knew what the fuck I was doing and had any goddamn clue how to program shit. I just want this super cool table rotated and updated with the newer features and physics.

[Anonymous No.2750292]

>>2749961
you forgot the most important thing of all ----- fun ----

[Anonymous No.2750370]

>>2749956
>>2749961
I agree, except for I do enjoy LotR and see it as one of the few exceptions to Stern's usual garbage.

Almost all of their tables feel cheap and an uninspired cash in on licensing (see all their tables). Keefer definitely made some deep rules for them but it's wasted on shitty themes or bad table design so it's nice he's with JJP now.

[Anonymous No.2750417]

>>2750370
A place I frequent here in Sydney has nothing but Stern tables, the first time I walked in I was excited to see the LotR table due to its reputation but I find myself playing and enjoying the other Sterns more.
The Star Trek LE is absolutely beautiful and feels solid and well made. The best table Stern has produced?
I think Spiderman is a great table and better than Rings.
Metallica I didn't like at first despite being a fan, but it's grown on me and I think playing the LE improved my opinion of it.
X-Men, another that I disliked but with time grown to really enjoy.

Maybe because I was never a Tolkien fan or something. I know I'm being harsh on it but it has such a high rep and I can't get into it and it does feel like another "cheap Stern"

[Anonymous No.2750682]

>>2749961
The first three are kind of "hazy" words. Can you be a bit more precise? Not trolling either, I'm really curious if there are aspects that can make or break a table, or at least put a table above others.

[Anonymous No.2750726]

>>2750417
Star Trek LE is definitely my other favorite Stern and does feel solid and well made. And I'm not a fan of the show.

Metallica and ACDC aren't that great in my opinion but don't feel as cheap as a lot of the other ones. KISS isn't too bad either if you've had a chance to play it. Spiderman I don't care for and X-Men is straight up terrible though.

Lots of people seem to like Tron but I haven't been able to get into it.

[Anonymous No.2750740]

>>2750682
Not him but I would consider quality and good craftsmanship to be basically the same thing. Originality could be applied to the theme (so not stern) but also table layout, toys, or other gimmicks that haven't been seen before. Design could be artwork or design of the table and how it all flows together. That's how I would define them but maybe they meant something else.

[Anonymous No.2750743]

>>2750740
I figured craftsmannship is the physical precision of the table, while quality is something regarding its layout, rules, consistency of theme, loose stuff like that? While design is more about the creativity involved, I suppose. As I said, these terms seem hazy to me, so I'm looking for a bit more info

[Anonymous No.2751119]

So i'm trying to set up Visual Pinball on my father's PC that has a 1920x1080 monitor but when i try to change the screen options the max resolution that VP shows is 1280x720,is there a way to pick different resolutions?

[Anonymous No.2751239]

>>2751119
What version are you using?

[Anonymous No.2751245]

>>2751119
>>2751239
Nevermind i just needed to change the screen text size back to 100% under screen resolution

[Anonymous No.2751357]

>>2750726
Tron is good looking table but I just don't think the "flow" is there. The positioning of the ramps and pops seem a bit odd.

[Anonymous No.2751969]

Everyone acting like Sterns are built in an inferior manner should complain to Churchill Custom Cabinets / Chicago Gaming Company since they make all the playfields and cabinets and artwork for all Bally / Williams / Data East / modern Stern pins to this day.

Of course, it's the same method and materials and quality that B/W tables had. But people can't understand deep rules so they hate Stern and say the tables are cheap.

[Anonymous No.2752018]

>>2751969
Who the fuck assembles them then, the pinball fairies?
Who is responsible for the electronics?
How about we blame the fucking trees for providing Stern with inferior wood for their pinball tables?
Industries change and so do their methods, you can't compare the current manufacturing to what it was 20 years ago.
Fuck off Gary, the quality on your Stern tables is fucking apparent.

[Anonymous No.2752035]

>>2741643
>Doesn't taste like FUCKING APPLES

[Anonymous No.2752041]

>>2749067
I was really disappointed they took their Black Hole game off the floor. The place is great though.

[Anonymous No.2752064]

>>2751969
>I read this article http://www.flippers.be/pinball_playfields.html and you guys are dumb because Stern is the same quality

>But people can't understand deep rules so they hate Stern and say the tables are cheap.
Oh that must be the reason. I should go back to playing games from the 70s where the build quality was better... I mean the same... and I can understand the rules.

How about you compare the two Indiana Jones games?

[Anonymous No.2752359]

>>2752018
You fucking nigger it's still the same kind and grade of birch it's always been. LEARN TO READ faggit

[Anonymous No.2752361]

>>2752064
Mark Ritchie was just a screwdriver guy, no game of his can be anything other than shit unless the Great Python Anghelo is involved.

[Anonymous No.2752369]

>>2752361
Go back to bed, Python, you're dead. And probably drunk.

[Anonymous No.2752370]

Hm, never considered emulating pinball before (besides a bunch of classics collections released on consoles) but you guys have intrigued me with Visual pinball 10/ physmod5.

Also stuck in Toronto and they closed down the pinball room at union station years ago. Life is pain. Although not TOO far away we have http://www.thechurchofthesilverball.com/index.htm

[Anonymous No.2752584]

>>2752359
>He thinks it's just the wood that makes a table cheap.
No, it's the cheap plastics, toys, and bare minimum that Stern puts out.

>>2752361
I don't care who designed it. If you played both tables, one feels like a cheap piece of shit but I guess you couldn't tell since they are of the same quality.

[Anonymous No.2753613]

>>2752584
.
>that fucking Jagger target
Do they even playtest tables before they release them?

[Anonymous No.2753957]

At least Stern can build a pinball machine designed to last. Unlike Jersey Hack.

[Anonymous No.2753959]

>>2753957

[Anonymous No.2753962]

>>2752584
Holy shit you actually brag about dropping money into a Stern IJ

[Anonymous No.2754476]

Stumbled onto this thread on a local arcade forum i'm on.

http://www.aussiearcade.com.au/showthread.php/55269-Pinball-Adventure-Shed-Stash

Don't cry, There is a happy ending at the end.

[Anonymous No.2756519]

>>2754476
Yeah I'm not signing in to some backwater forum just to read your shit faggot

[Anonymous No.2758078]

Reminder that Europe pinball > US pinball

[Anonymous No.2758205]

>>2758078
sup

[Anonymous No.2758273]

>>2715267
I might get this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinball-Hall-of-Fame-The-Williams-Collection-Nintendo-Wii-2008/252135865596?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33867%26meid%3D59c8e5a5f98944c981405f129a10d39c%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291426261507

[Anonymous No.2758283]

>>2715267
I might get this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinball-Hall-of-Fame-The-Williams-Collection-Nintendo-Wii-2008/252135865596

[Anonymous No.2758398]

>>2758283

[Anonymous No.2761015]

[Anonymous No.2761589]

>looking up some pinball machines
>"this game is LIGHTNING FAST!"
>watch a video of it
>it grabs the ball and hold it to play a voice clip and flash lights
>kicks it out after a few seconds
>this happens after every-other shot

Why can't machines be more simple? I don't care about the gimmicks. I want the ball to keep rolling.

[Anonymous No.2761713]

>>2761589
What game are you referring to? I agree sometimes it can really slow the game down but I think the idea is for the game to allow you to look at the screen and tell you about a mode or something happening.

[Anonymous No.2761731]

>>2761713
Probably Whitewater.
I hate that kickback too.

[Anonymous No.2762951]

>>2761589
>>2761713
>>2761731
No such game exists, he's probably exaggerating a magnet-heavy Stern table like X Men or Iron Man

[Anonymous No.2762958]

>>2761589
>I want the ball to keep rolling.
You are probably better suited to older tables them particularly EMs.

[Anonymous No.2763560]

>>2762958
They have holes though

[Anonymous No.2763641]

http://www.pinballarcade.com/TablePacks/

So if I wanted to get a table pack for my Pinball Arcade, which season was best? Keep in mind I'm just a pinball casual.

[Anonymous No.2763725]

>>2763641
I'm not familiar with how the table packs work. Is this the phone version of the game? I thought you just buy them by season but I guess I would get 1>2>4>3>10 to start

[Anonymous No.2763762]

>>2763641
The best tables are generally front-loaded towards the earliest packs. The earlier packs are also the best value, because that's before Farsight realized they frontloaded their tables and jacked up the prices. Go with Table Pack 1 and 2, then you'll probably want to pick and choose individual tables from there.

PROTIP: don't buy an individual table until you consistently hit the trial score. If you suck, you play free forever!

[Anonymous No.2763903]

>>2763641
If you're playing on an android device...

[Anonymous No.2764303]

>>2763725
>>2763903
PS3.

[Anonymous No.2766552]

Can't let the pinball thread drain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1TZQq6v2BA

[Anonymous No.2766721]

>>2766552
Does he only have one arm?

[Anonymous No.2767096]

>>2766721
No, he is one of the best pinball players in the world. In the full video he is explaining how to play Tommy and after doing so he played a ball with one hand just for fun.

[Anonymous No.2768062]

[Anonymous No.2768184]

>>2768062
on the topic of vidya-themed pins, id really like a chance to play the joust table

i fuckin love joust

[Anonymous No.2768201]

>>2768062
This is a really clever game and a lot of fun. It's too bad it's so hard to find.

[Anonymous No.2768215]

>>2768201
Nigga you serious? I've played like 3 of them in the past year at random places.

[Anonymous No.2768286]

>>2768201
Definitely not rare but a neat little table regardless.

>>2768184
Joust on the other hand is rare. A very cool concept but really doesn't have a lot of replayability to me. Definitely play with some one though if you find one to play.

[Anonymous No.2769147]

>>2762951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnI01vKsifY

This is what I was referring to.

[Anonymous No.2769149]

>>2769147
>he plays JM

[Anonymous No.2769183]

Anyone in this thread save the huge .zip collection that some anon dumped? It was aaaaages ago and I can still see it on archives, but it's dead. He called it Pinhalla.rar

It was all of the NES/GB/GBA/SNES/Genesis Pinball games in one bundle.

[Anonymous No.2769413]

>>2769147
I didn't watch the whole video but I get your complaints. The video modes and mechanism in the back is slow and stops the ball in play but at the same time it adds depth and uniqueness to each table.

[Anonymous No.2769560]

>>2769147
Look for the older 1970's SS tables. And classic EM tables.

Chicago Coin Cinema
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_8ejOvnMe4

Central Park
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qt3Ax_HYYI

Zaccaria ROBOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtrrEJ42WfM

Haunted House
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDv_gAbbLNI

ATARI Superman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmgCOrPmICs

GORGAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctiLQQTP4tY

Firepower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R2wlfhhI5g

Space Invaders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdM2NiXHf8Q

[Anonymous No.2769562]

>>2769560
oh shit, here

Central Park
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3qDKPPhRqI

[Anonymous No.2769563]

>>2769560
>firepower

I actually have a Firepower 2 machine (frankensteined with a firepower 1 sound board for voice). Firepower 1 has been one I've been wanting to play.

[Anonymous No.2769809]

[Anonymous No.2769867]

>>2769560
damn son, look at all this good taste

[Anonymous No.2769868]

>>2769809
Got a chance to play this table myself. Pretty fun, despite the simple design. I think all the funny sound bites are what really sell it.

[Anonymous No.2769969]

>>2769868
I've played it as well and was a bit disappointed. It felt kind of cheap and the ball seemed to fly all over the place. The theme is just meh for me though. I will definitely give it another chance the next time I can though.

[Anonymous No.2771295]

>>2763903
Speaking of, are there any other decent pinball games on Android?

Also, Pinball Arcade and other games of their (at least the Ghostbusters one) crashes every time when loading a table. Anyone knows a solution? I'm playing the Zen Pinball free table at the moment, but I wanted to play some real designs too.

[Anonymous No.2771317]

>>2771295
Reinstall it
see >>2745248
Most tables are free on this app and the games have a real old school charm about them

[Anonymous No.2771332]

how does one "git gud" at pinball

[Anonymous No.2771336]

>>2771332
Practice and familiarity

[Anonymous No.2771570]

>>2771332
yeah [lots of] practice and familiarity help, I lack practice in a controlled multiball scenario but the game I play gives RNG results no matter the frame data.

[Anonymous No.2771572]

same shot, different outcomes. Not a dextery game if you're throwing in RNG wrenches to confuse peoples judgements.

[Anonymous No.2771612]

>You will never hit the Million Point Shot on Comet for the first time ever again

[Anonymous No.2771674]

>trying to find a way to display all movement options from a trap

[Anonymous No.2771749]

[Anonymous No.2771924]

>>2771749
Could you explain these a bit more? Is this showing that when you post past you have exactly 3 different outcomes if you hit the flipper at the same time?

In the case of
>>2771572
I don't see how this is an issue of RNG any more than how a real table would play.

Also not that it matters but you could have saved that ball on Frankenstein in the bottom picture.

[Anonymous No.2771970]

>>2771570
You pulsed the left flipper differently in each of those

[Anonymous No.2771973]

Reminder that you can change the constant scatter angle for any table in PhysMod5. 0.0 works for me. 0.5 if you want RNG that feels real.

[Anonymous No.2771991]

>>2771970
Yes there is a 1 frame difference but after reviewing other footage from previous games they had interchangeable interactions so the bottom and top reactions could be swapped with those two outputs.

>>2771924
I'm find out on how to do things and what are my limiting factors, Overlay blending only lets me combine two streams, so when I combined 2 combined streams the opacity was quartered.. the footage just had to be different enough and isn't a meaningful comparison yet

>I don't see how this is an issue of RNG any more than how a real table would play.
I haven't overlayed this yet but I want to see exactly how/when they become different shots.

>Also not that it matters but you could have saved that ball on Frankenstein in the bottom picture.
While true, I don't believe I should have to if I'm purposefully trying for the safer interaction.

[Anonymous No.2772002]

... at least if you don't want a 3ball mb there's an easy way to get rid of the spare.

[Anonymous No.2772020]

>>2771924
>I don't see how this is an issue of RNG any more than how a real table would play.
prior to the flipper update, it used to always hit the 14 if it was up, then the 15 if the 14 was down.. now it's a coin toss game if it'll hit, so I'm annoyed my method of playing got messed with ... with no leaderboard reset.
>pic related used to go through the posts on both sides, now no longer works to collect the 8 ball with this shot+nudging.

[Anonymous No.2772043]

>>2772020
>caring about leaderboards

1000 physics calculations per second would put you in competition with yourself

[Anonymous No.2772045]

>goes through old footage
so the old 3&4 frame comparison is above which have interchangeable behaviors.. but here's a frame 5 response..

[Anonymous No.2772072]

>>2772020
I still don't see how this is a problem because that is how a real table would be. But basically you don't like it because they didn't reset the leaderboards? Are you like top 10 of all time or something on this game?

>>2772045
You nudged it before you flipped. And honestly I still don't know what I'm suppose to be looking at, sorry.

[Anonymous No.2772115]

>because that is how a real table would be
Incorrect, It's rather the opposite behavior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRux3AXU59M

>>2772072
I made an overlay and a side by side of a 4 frame interaction
>And honestly I still don't know what I'm suppose to be looking at, sorry.
Since this isn't real pinball we have frame by frame data to pour over and review and compare and I find the non-repeatable behavior suspect, if it's genuinely a game of shooting skill or just improvisation.

[Anonymous No.2772118]

[Anonymous No.2772134]

The lack of cradle separation tools and how easy the ramp shot is to make on Frankenstein is what drives me to look deeper on how TPA works, what the comparison shows me is I wasn't executing poorly to get the clean break but rather I got the bad break by chance.

I'm not top 10 of all time yet but I at least post top 1-80, mainly 20's and 30s on the tables I choose.

[Anonymous No.2772158]

>what a quick pulse is supposed to look like

[Anonymous No.2772173]

>>2772115
>>2772134
Thanks for clarifying. I wasn't really following you on Big Shot but can see the cradle separation issue in
>>2772118

Do you think the strength of the flippers is a factor here or is it just RNG? I found the flippers to be extremely powerful on all the tables. With cradle separation and post passing in the game I never hit it 'too soft' where it basically doesn't go anywhere which can happen in real life.

[Anonymous No.2772182]

>>2772158
Haha yeah. Exactly what I was talking about here >>2772173

[Anonymous No.2772249]

>>2772173
When I wanted to get started posting on leaderboards I picked BK2K, but it has a similar problem to ToTAN.. one of the flipper doesn't pass reliably
>after testing more tables
26 tables of the ~60 at the time didn't post pass the the others

so I know there's inconsistency between tables.. just putting the game under a microscope to see what I should be aware of.

[Anonymous No.2772251]

>>2772249
>the the others
like the others

[Anonymous No.2772287]

>>2772249
I just checked TOTAN and can post pass consistently back and forth. You aren't giving enough time to drop the right flipper.

>so I know there's inconsistency between tables.
Some tables (in real life) are harder to post past with if not impossible.

Maybe step away from the microscope and don't worry too much about the leaderboards and just focus on your PRs.

[Anonymous No.2772328]

Irregular behavior with post passing being done quickly with both flippers up, back and forth:
BK2K you can do it sometimes on the left flipper, briefly pausing before passing helps
Black Hole from the left just goes up often
Champion Pub same deal as BK2K but on the right flipper, less frequent
CV see Champion Pub
Co1812 see Champion Pub
CFTBL don't know if its just me but acts like black hole on the left flipper too sometimes
Diner opposite problem, often a post pass rolls up then over the flippers on both sides
El Dorado just as bad as BK2K on the right flipper, cant pass into a trap at all
Firepower cant post pass into a trap on either side, was this true in the past?
Flight 2K see Champion Pub
JunkYard right flipper passes it further, majority of the time it rolls over the flipper
LCA right flipper wont pass it as reliably as the left one
MM see LCA, but worse.. camera looks tilted[i.imgur.com] too by looking at the flippers
MB I don't think post passing was ever reliable on this table
PotO see Champion Pub
P*B can't pass from the right, just goes up.. pausing helps (J*B was fine, lol)
Roadshow see Champion Pub
Ripleys similar to monster bash, passes from the right happen to go into the slings
Safe Cracker left flipper cant pass into a trap reliably
Space Shuttle can't pass from the left
ST:TNG wont clear the right flipper when passed from the left occasionally
TotAN right flipper cant pass it unless you pause briefly
Taxi wont clear the left flipper when passed from the right occasionally
Tee'd Off see Taxi
T2 occasionally on the right side it'll only travel up a bit, not a troublesum problem
TZ passing it to the right always goes up the inlane and over the flipper
White Water see Champion Pub
Who dunnit passing to the left usually goes further up the inlane then over the flipper

>>2772287
why does JackBot and PinBot play differently if they're the same playfield?

[Anonymous No.2772359]

>2772328 continued
if half the tables act exactly the same I'd assume it's intended, some of these that don't do the assumed intended behavior have similar behaviors so I'd assume it was copied&pasted that way.

Why have one flipper post pass 100% but the other doesn't? Just reeks of bad QA to me.

I would be happy if the assumed intended guaranteed post pass was removed and replaced with the cradle separation tools (also helps with backhand setups) the players need on all tables.

[Anonymous No.2772367]

>>2772328
>Irregular behavior with post passing being done quickly with both flippers up, back and forth
Well there is your problem right there. If you're not letting the ball come to a complete stop how do you expect to consistently pass? And while it seems you have looked into this far more than I have, I can guarantee you there isn't a difference between left and right flippers which makes me doubt that there is actually any real issue here.

[Anonymous No.2772384]

>>2772367
just look at >>2772249
I wasn't practicing rolling post passes, I waited for complete stops.. passing back and forth (flipping as quick as possible) at least 10 times.

I wouldn't tell people I post pass at 3~4 frames interactions.. as quick as possible is as close to a relative term they'd understand.

[Anonymous No.2772395]

>>2772384
Yeah and I can pass it back and forth all day. You are pressing it too fast. Wait like 2 more frames or something.

[Anonymous No.2772397]

>>2772395
or better yet, play pinball on something that doesn't have shit physics. like PM5.

[Anonymous No.2772426]

>>2772397
I like the idea of hobbyist software like VP/FP/U3DP but I don't find any motivation in competing with only with my own scores since no one organizes tournaments with the same exact setup.

Some people play TPA to familiarize themselves with the rules and play in real tournaments, I just don't have the spare time to drive all over the state to go to only 1 bar that runs a tournament.

[Anonymous No.2772724]

>>2772426
Sounds like you realize you can't put a high score up on a real machine due to not practicing with real software.

[Anonymous No.2772773]

Also to that guy and anyone else asking how to "git gud" look up PAPApinball for tutorial vids n other good shit.

[Anonymous No.2772907]

Glorious Down-Under pinball

[Anonymous No.2772918]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJKLMPuf3m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMpi3UiY7wE

[Anonymous No.2772919]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P876HqZYDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=untcJpTD8bA

[Anonymous No.2772923]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lacJbtttkms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn9Xo42F3EE

[Anonymous No.2773046]

>>2772907
fugg i wanna play some non-american pins dammit

[Anonymous No.2773089]

>>2773046
Этo хopoшaя игpa oт Coвeтcкoй Poдины

[Anonymous No.2773095]

This one is not for workings at moment
15 kopeck for playings
Drain ball you go to gulag

[Anonymous No.2773115]

>>2773089
>>2773095
i always thought the gommies were anti-fun

[Anonymous No.2773123]

>>2773095
>15 kopeck for playings
Vasily, blyaat, how I am to be of playing a ping-pang game when it costing whole week of salary?

[Anonymous No.2773139]

>>2773115
Is train to for being good western espionage. Not suspect fun guy.

[Anonymous No.2773145]

>>2772397
>>2772724
Damn you told him! How could anyone be good at pinball if they don't practice with PM5?

[Anonymous No.2773180]

>>2773095
Love the art style of that machine, almost gives me a lectronamo vibe. How does it play?

[Anonymous No.2773469]

>>2772397
>>2772724
Yeah, Timeshock hasn't come out for PC yet. Such physical, much vapor, wow.

[Anonymous No.2773719]

Medieval Madness unboxing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMCjjlUx8Mw

New pinball tech is pretty cool, and the owner has a nice setup.

[Anonymous No.2773747]

I've been leisurely working on a pinball style game. A mix between pong and pinball really, where you either play with another player cooperatively, or by yourself controlling both paddles (left and right). I used to play more pinball when I was a kid. Never got huge into it, but still want to see this idea through, and since this seems like the most knowledgeable place to ask on 4chan, I was curious if you guys have any ideas on what would make it fun. I'd prefer it if the board could feasibly exist in real life for the most part (though the sliding bumper-paddles would probably make that tricky on their own)

Right now it has a captured ball in the centerpiece there (looks like an eye). The idea is that you would hit both sides of the eye and that would trigger a point count down (starting at, say, a million and dropping down over 10 seconds or somesuch). When you complete a loop (the unfinished rail there) it would trigger the pupil of the eye (captured ball) to kick out and bounce around. Each bounce is adds a multiplier on whatever points are left after the countdown...

Anyway. Just curious for some outside perspective.

[Anonymous No.2773780]

>>2773747
I'm not exactly sure I understand how that works (do you win or lose or something?) but I'd be interested in seeing some source since it appears you are working in UE4. I've aspirations in that field as well but am terrible at coding.

[Anonymous No.2773793]

>>2773780
Works the same way as pinball - you play for points, but you have 2 gutters on either side of the board. The dark paddles on the side move like pong paddles, but bump the ball like pinball bumpers. The table raises in the middle so the ball will roll down either side.

At the moment it's completely in blueprint. It works, what I have so far, but it doesn't track score or anything. the ball bounces around and kicks off bumpers and what not though.

That hardest part is getting the paddles to kick the ball up the ramps at a decent speed, but not hard enough to make the ball fly off the board awkwardly.

[Anonymous No.2773851]

>>2773793
Looks cool! Maybe making the table longer could allow for more ramps and targets. Also check out the pinball machine Joust for some more inspiration. Hope to see an update.

[Anonymous No.2773876]

>>2773851
Cool. I didn't know that was a thing. I was trying to keep the table size about a 16:9 ratio, but it probably should be longer. the extra space would allow the the table to have a point read-out, instead of it being a HUD on-screen...

When I get a bit further on it I'll post webms probably. So you can judge the ball physics. expect it to be slow going though.

[Anonymous No.2773905]

>>2773876
Yeah so not sure if the picture is misleading but it is a flat table and slopes down from the middle. And whatever ratio you want could work, just pull the camera further back right?

[Anonymous No.2774321]

>>2773145
Someone put poorly aligned shitty aftermarket decals on your 3-bank

[Anonymous No.2774602]

>>2773747
Looks interesting, one loop? So only the right hand player could hit that shot or do you plan to put in another?
Curved paddles would make accuracy an issue if they are to work like jet bumpers. Or maybe that would make things more interesting.
I'm intrigued with your project.
Here's a list of all the head to head pinball machines made for some reference and inspiration.
http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=head-to-head&sortby=name&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick

and some Gottlieb Challenger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVp_4SEfpVQ

[Anonymous No.2774768]

>>2774602
I'm thinking about changing the curve to something like pick related.

The loop was more of a test than anything, the whole table other than the centerpiece will likely change since I'll be lengthening it.

Thanks for the list. I didn't know versus tables existed at all so it's pretty cool to see for reference.

[Anonymous No.2774778]

Is pinside the only place where you can see other people's highest scores for pinball tables? Beat the highest score there for my machine earlier today.

[Anonymous No.2774949]

>>2738475
>Still need help
Please for the love of god, is PM5 on ANYTHING that isn't Motherfucking MEGA

[Anonymous No.2774989]

>>2774949
Second
I just wanted the vbs folder and couldn't get that even

[Anonymous No.2775116]

>>2738475
>>2774949
>>2774989
Don't try to download the entire folder at once. Mega has a "bandwidth per transaction limit". I just highlighted and downloaded piecemeal. It took me maybe a few extra minutes of work, but that's it.

[Anonymous No.2775923]

I just scored over 2 billion on Monster Bash moments ago and my graphics card crashed as I was typing in my name :(

>inb4 that guy shits on The Pinball Arcade

[Anonymous No.2776040]

>>2774949
Download and configure / fix / convert every single table yourself from private dropboxes, vpforums, and vpuniverse. And fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.2777016]

Anyone enjoy metallica? I want to like it and it looks cool but it just doesn't play well in my opinion and I don't have fun with it.

Any opinions or tips for it?

[Anonymous No.2777389]

>>2777016
Haven't played it, but yeah, that layout looks like shit. It tries to hide it with all the toys, but I can't see myself having fun on that one.

[Anonymous No.2777459]

>>2777016
Didn't like it at first, I felt pretty much the same as you but after a few plays and false starts it has grown on me.
Lightning multiball and Puppets multiball are pretty easy to achieve.

Here's some great info on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npKSo6Y-D_A

[Anonymous No.2777476]

>>2777016
I like it, the layout is pretty fun. It's also the first pinball game in ages to have really nice artwork. Like the music too, although I wish there were more tracks from the first two albums.

[Anonymous No.2777504]

>>2777389
It just feels out of control. Like every shot you take is just dangerous and nothing feeds back to the flipper. While hard shots are fine, I feel like leans a bit more on the luck side.

>>2777459
Thanks for the link. I've watched it and it helped but that Fuel shot for the add-a-ball is impossible and even the mystery scoop is tough. Last game I played on it I was 1 shot away from starting Crank It Up.

>>2777476
While I'm not a big fan of the music, I do like that the songs aren't tied to modes like ACDC and KISS so I can just listen to the few songs I like.

[Anonymous No.2777507]

>>2777504
Yeah, It's definitely based on how much you like the band. I just feel that the music in most Stern tables isn't dynamic enough to match the gameplay.

[Anonymous No.2777765]

>>2777016
It's a John Borg design so it's basically a Premiere-era Gottlieb layout that relies on bash toys.

You'll not find artwork like that on a Stern again though.

[Anonymous No.2777951]

>>2777765
The two Gottlieb machines credited are designed by others with Borg on "mechanics". How much input on design does that really entail?
He's designed a lot of modern Sterns (Xmen, Avatar, Austin Powers, Tron, Walking Dead etcetera) do they compare to Premiere-era Gottliebs?

Diamond Lady
Gottlieb, 1988
Game Design: Jon Norris Mechanics: John Borg

Victory
Gottlieb, 1987
Game Design: John Trudeau Mechanics: John Borg

[Anonymous No.2777964]

>>2777951
Austin Powers and The Walking Dead are the same game

[Anonymous No.2778404]

>>2777951
Victory is actually fun, so I'd guess less input on that one.

[Anonymous No.2778406]

>>2777964
>are the same game
I think the word you were looking for is similar, as in, these two tables are similar because they have flippers and a ball.

[Anonymous No.2780290]

>>2777964
No. Attack from Mars is actually more closely related to Austin Powers.

And has anyone noticed how STTNG and Star Trek (stern) have the same shots?

[Anonymous No.2780635]

>>2780290
Different layouts but certain shots and the upper right flipper placement are obvious homages to the TNG table.
Not the first time Stern have done such a thing.
Referencing earlier tables isn't entirely new.
http://pavlovpinball.com/revealed-the-most-significant-pinball-machine-ever/

[Anonymous No.2780772]

How often do you guys pass the ball to the other flipper? I'm almost scared to do it, I've had a few balls fall through trying to get the ball to the other side.

[Anonymous No.2780795]

>>2780635
That was a fun little article and of course Creature would be referenced the most because its the best table.

>>2780772
I only do it when I need one more shot or two from the other flipper such as an extra ball shot or to start a multiball. Often there are other shots you can take such as ramps to feed it to the other flipper.

[Anonymous No.2780862]

>>2777765
Borg worked mainly with Data East, not Premier.

[Anonymous No.2783130]

Broke down and bought that copy of Dragon's Revenge I've been pondering over getting for weeks from my local game store. Holy fuck I'm glad I did, I've been playing for hours. Pic is my score and apparently the game is beatable, so I'd like to try to finish it when I get more time off. I'm glad I never listen to goddamn youtubers, because they outright slammed this game across the board. "Hurr bad music bad art, bad game, stay away at all costs." Fuck that noise, I love this game.

[Anonymous No.2783294]

>>2783130
>Broke down and bought
So you overpaid?

Anyway, I've played the Crush games on TG16 and they're alright. Downloaded the rom and going to give Dragon's Revenge a try.

[Anonymous No.2783572]

>>2773719
the content of his videos is usually good but i wish he would stfu

[Anonymous No.2783729]

>>2783294
10 bucks with box and manual. Not exactly overpaying, I'm just a cheap bastard.

[Anonymous No.2783794]

>>2783729
Well shit that's nothing.
I gave it a play and I like it, it's easier to navigate the table than the TG16 Crush games.

[Anonymous No.2784035]

>>2783130
Yeah, Dragon's Revenge is pretty solid. I love how bizarre the bonus stages are. I got kinda bored with it though, as I beat the high score on my second try.

[Anonymous No.2784934]

>>2780862
He was only hired at Data East because he owned the patent for the rotating playfield (like BoP) and Data East was then able to acquire the patent along with him and put pressure on B/W in order to force them to allow their use of the score-match free game feature.

In other words, John Borg should go back to designing flippers at Premiere.

[Anonymous No.2785371]

>>2784934
>BoP
what's that?
>score-match free game feature
That was a BallyMidway patent?

[Anonymous No.2785446]

>>2785371
Like the rotating face in Bride of Pinbot, a rotating playfield that changes the pinball game in real time. John Borg sort of became a designer over time as a result.

Moves like this are what give Joe Kamincow his reputation as a scoundrel. Such behavior continues today between JJP and Stern.

Anonymous leaker reveals JJP's third game:

"It's titled "Dialed In" and is a game where a cell phone located on the game calls you and the guy tells you what shots to make. A robot's arm stops a shot on the upper ramp when lit. Pat is using his 4 magnets again to throw the ball around the playfield below the cross cross ramps. Lit inserts move toward the player and you must stop them before they reach the flippers. There is another lcd display that has 2 way mirror that you have to shoot at like pin 2000. His 3rd flipper on the right middle shoots the ball up a ramp. Pat has moving target in the middle playfield blocking shots to the jets. Pat is directing this narrow game to the engineer like he did with us at WMS using someone named Wally and some Mexican as a cad drafter. I guess Jack will have to get some more investors to produce this game......as we all know of the delays from Hobbit. They are more than 4 months behind and still working with the same 2 year old white wood. Don't look for this game anytime soon.

3 new games Jack has in the lineup are Muppets, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Toy Story. He has the Disney license for them now. The Muppets is a poor choice as is only one of many Jack has made with JJP."

JJP counters by revealing Stern's next games:

"I will not make a Jimi Hendrix or another Jurassic Park or Ghost Busters or anything that has been done before. We want to do new innovative things in pinball."

[Anonymous No.2785461]

>>2785446
>His 3rd flipper on the right middle shoots the ball up a ramp
Pat should name this one "Calling it in"

[Anonymous No.2786979]

>>2785461

This picture is even more appropriate.
>>2749636

[Anonymous No.2787046]

>>2710475
>the local arcade managed to get a Hercules machine
>it sucks
gg Atari

[Anonymous No.2787062]

>>2785446
"Pat Lawlor. Evil man."

-Python Anghelo

[Anonymous No.2787124]

>>2787046
What did you expect from a ridiculously over sized gimmick machine?
2015 and you have a local arcade? Where in Narnia do you live? Post pics or it never happened.

[Anonymous No.2788491]

[Anonymous No.2788948]

>>2787046
>>2787124
Why does it suck?

[Anonymous No.2788991]

>>2788948
2nd guy here,
It's the world's largest pinball table ever manufactured. The ball is pretty much a cue ball from a pool table. I've never played one but would love to give it a go. By all accounts it's pretty slow and dull but it has the gimmicky novelty value of "it ain't great but it's a sight to behold and every pin fan should experience it at least once in their life".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q3CMnc5Jp0

[Anonymous No.2789001]

>>2788991
ok, I knew and saw that it's huge, but it surprised me to see they used a bigger ball. The playfield looks empty, and it does seem to play very slow, going by the video. What a waste of a big table.
Thanks for the info.

[Anonymous No.2789184]

>>2788991
Hey, this picture is from the arcade at Cedar Point. They have two of them. You can see the other one way in the background.

[Anonymous No.2789639]

What are some fun youtube Pinball reviewers/collectors that have a nice voice or tell nice stories about the pinball machines they have, like where and when they saw that machine for the first time, like spida1a?

[Anonymous No.2789747]

>>2789639
You could watch watch Bowen's tutorials and learn something instead of watching some over the top garbage youtube videos for story time.

[Anonymous No.2790005]

>>2789639
Do what >>2789747
says also look up papatv on youtube and watch good contest, live show footage.

[Anonymous No.2790014]

>>2789747
Yeah, Bowen's fun to listen to.

[Anonymous No.2790108]

>>2789639
Tnt amusements. I'd kill to have a boss like Todd.

[Anonymous No.2791865]

[Anonymous No.2792141]

>>2791865
Fucking trash machine by trash designer.

I'm glad they burned that Circus Voltaire, soon all Popadiuk trash machines will follow.

[Anonymous No.2792143]

>>2769183
I had it, on my desktop that bricked last week.

Sorry, anon. Some good titles in that bundle though.

[Anonymous No.2792258]

>>2792141
What's with the Popadiuk hate?

[Anonymous No.2792298]

>>2792141
Yeah I really like this game too.

[Anonymous No.2792542]

>>2715267
Have both if them, some fun ass tables in there

[Anonymous No.2794305]

>>2792258
Stole over one million US dollars from the pinball community a few months ago. Stole ideas before then. "Muh artwork" find something else to value in a machine. ZombieYeti still unpaid for MG

>>2792298
Shill

[Anonymous No.2794316]

2 person pinball machine based off the game Joust. Don't own one personally but really cheap in pinball standards.

[Anonymous No.2794387]

>>2794305
>a few months ago
People have been waiting for a few years now. And it's their fault for pre-ordering sight-unseen pinball tables from a juggalo

[Anonymous No.2795045]

>>2792141
>>2794305
Sounds like you just don't like the table because you hate the guy that designed it.

I think it plays great though and has some great shots and ramps with a nice theme and buildup.

[Anonymous No.2795202]

>>2795045
Sounds like you're a faggit

[Anonymous No.2795478]

>>2795045
Theatre of Magic just plays like every other fan-layout game. I'd rather just play MM.

[Anonymous No.2797557]

Tales of the Arabian Nights is a great machine

[Anonymous No.2797604]

Is it an unpopular opinion to say that I prefer DMDs over LCDs? By LCD I'm referring to factory-installed screens like on Jersey Jack machines.

[Anonymous No.2797609]

>>2797604
I doubt it's unpopular. Major appeal of pinball machines is the physicality and art of engineering. DMDs are much more in the spirit of that

[Anonymous No.2797653]

>>2797604
>>2797609
Is their an instance of an LCD used in moderation?
The screen on Wizard of Oz is just too large, busy and distracting.

[Anonymous No.2797674]

>>2797653
Does Stern's Legends of WrestleMania count? It's got a small screen used to show WWF matches.

[Anonymous No.2798742]

>>2797653
I wasn't a fan of the large screen at first but as I've been learning the game I've gotten use to it. I do like the visuals though for things like the locks and multiball and replay animations. Being able to see a lot of information at once is nice too instead of trying to grab and cycle through info.

[Anonymous No.2799363]

>>2710475

[Anonymous No.2799554]

>>2799363
>YOU CANNOT WIN!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ9bI7XgCU0

[Anonymous No.2799606]

Any britbongs in the south west uk here? If so checkout the arkade on minehead seafront, they've recently got a bunch of tables in with 4 more on the way, all restored to amazing condition aswell. Games i say there were Addams senpai,dr who,frankenstein,apollo 13,BoP,jackbot,Valiant and t-2...

[Anonymous No.2799607]

Oh and flash gordon.