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Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:50:03 2015 No.2709157 [Reply] [Original]

vr

is there a way to prove that i got the real Mr. Gimmick. Sure I can open the cartridge to check for the sunsoft sound chip.

But im still worried that it is a repro, made from a Return of the Joker cartridge. ( As i know it also use the same soundchip )

So is there even a way ?

Also what was the highest price you spent for a game. 500EUR for me...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:52:17 2015 No.2709159 >Not being a B.R.H.G (Beautiful Rom Hoarding GOD) DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PLEBIAN

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:53:40 2015 No.2709161

>>2709157
I used to buy games like you.
Then I evolved into a Beautiful Rom Hoarding GOD.

Now I have bitches literally lining out front my door waiting to come in and suck my dick while I play any obscure game of my choosing.

feels soo gooooooood aunt diane.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:57:07 2015 No.2709165 >>2709157 I hope you didn't pay too much for it, Gimmick used 2 different sound chipshets

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:57:52 2015 No.2709167 File: 7 KB, 468x286, fuckyou.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2709159 >>2709161 >2 replies, 2 posters Stop samefagging this meme and sperging up our board, you idjit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:59:31 2015 No.2709169 >>2709167 I used to faggot like you. Then I- oh wait , I was never a faggot like you. Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:02:01 2015 No.2709172 File: 29 KB, 521x193, Reddit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2709167 >inb4 5 hours in paint

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:05:40 2015 No.2709180 File: 7 KB, 468x286, score.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2709172 2 replies to OP means 3 total messages, meaning someone was samefagging. I highly doubt it was OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:05:57 2015 No.2709181 File: 3.61 MB, 2994x1996, 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2709165 so on both sides ? Just found one pic showing one side Still a way to see if its not from a Return of the Joker cartridge

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:33:24 2015 No.2709212 >>2709180 And how do we know it's not really you covering your own tracks?

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:50:23 2015 No.2709232

>>2709212

you cant ?

Gues thats the problem, i just want to know if i got a real copy of gimmick. Thats why i dont realy like repros..

I mean its ok if people do repros, BUT they should at least write on the cartridge REPRO or fanmade.

Also i get the game in 2 days, i will check if its real, if not i send it back. So i have to know if there is a way... but looks like there is no way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:20:32 2015 No.2709379 File: 7 KB, 470x454, hm.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2709232 >>2709157 What does it matter? Is the game playable? ...you did buy the game to play it, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:28:27 2015 No.2709386 >>2709157 >collectorfags

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 13:41:48 2015 No.2709414 >>2709157 you could, you know, hear if you have the extra channels, FME7 doesn't have them

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 14:00:24 2015 No.2709436 >>2709414 finaly, thank you !! Well as i googled, the 5B Chipset is the one with the expansion audio. But why is there a FME7 on this Mr. Gimmick >>2709181 Its so confusing source: http://www.giantbomb.com/mr-gimmick/3030-6037/

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 17:52:25 2015 No.2709812

>>2709436
That's the Scandinavian NES version so it got the regular FME-7. The Famicom version would be labeled SUNSOFT 5B. Or, so I read.

>The FME-7 is a memory mapping circuit developed by Sunsoft for use in NES and Famicom cartridges. It allows the program ROM to be switched in 8KB banks and the character ROM to be switched in 1KB banks. It also contains hardware allowing the cartridge to generate IRQ signals after a specified number of CPU clock cycles, thus enabling split-screen effects with minimal use of processing power. A special version of this MMC, labeled as "SUNSOFT 5B" rather than "FME-7", contains a version of the widely used Yamaha YM2149. This sound generation hardware is used on only one Famicom title: Gimmick!.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_management_controller#FME-7

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:05:00 2015 No.2709831
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Here's a picture of a Famicom Gimmick PCB. It has the Sunsoft 5B chip. Also, you can't really tell from the pic but the PCB is labeled "FC-GMK" in the upper right corner. A Batman PCB would be labeled "BAT-E301".

Source: http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=2695

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:24:33 2015 No.2709873 >>2709379 If I spent 500 bongbucks on a cartridge I'd want to make sure and fucking certain that it wasn't a repro too

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:32:52 2015 No.2709890

>>2709157
If you're ponying up 500 bucks for a single cart and you havent bothered googling looking what the real boards looked like, and directly compared to the board you were buying then I have zero fucking sympathy to you.

I get that NES isn't the same as something like Neo-Geo in terms of bootlegs. But any of the "rare" and highly valued games will absolutely have legit and reproduction/bootleg board scans available online.

Highest value I spent on a single game was 180 USD for Tron Bonne, and 210 CAD for Windjammers on .MVS.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:36:40 2015 No.2709898

>>2709157
>Also what was the highest price you spent for a game. 500EUR for me...

The most I ever spent at one time outside of buy a console was $80 for a Saturn, Guardian Heroes and Golden Axe: The Duel. Sold the extra Saturn to a /vr/ guy for $30 or something back when we had BST threads. I got a pretty good deal, I think.

I bid $200 on Panzer Dragoon Saga once but got outbid

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 01:47:40 2015 No.2710562

>>2709157
open it and post pics, dumbass.

it's pretty fucking obvious. you can tell because the ROMs will be resoldered with fresh solder and it'll use EPROMs and not PROM/MaskROM.

Also, a real Gimmick cart uses the Sunsoft 5B, NOT a FME-7. This is a common misconception and it is very fucking obvious because it's MASKED ON THE CHIP.

PAL and Conversions use FME-7
JP Gimmick uses a 5B
There are very very few donor 5B boards and you can still tell its a conversion from the ROMs on the board

http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/profile.php?id=2695

Post pics if you want but you should be able to tell just from the link above.

Always ask for pics with timestamp before you buy high-value carts dude.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 02:02:01 2015 No.2710573 [DELETED]

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>>2709890
kek, you're such a faggot for spending $180. It's even funnier because you have no idea how much of a faggot you are. You'll figure it out in the next ten years if you don't die of AIDS.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 02:04:36 2015 No.2710575

I recently played this game and had a blast. it really is a masterpiece.

fun facts: the spider on the castle in level 7 triggers a copy protection check. if your game isn't legit, it crashes the game with the text: black hole. of course you had to play all the way through and get all the secret items to find this out.

gimmick uses the PCM channel heavily, many songs have their bassline in the PCM.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 10:15:28 2015 No.2711010 >>2709157 Just play the damn game and STFU. I wish people could focus this much on the flaws in their health and personalities, so we wouldn't live in a world full of mentally ill insecure hoarding faggots.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 13:16:38 2015 No.2711243 >>2710562 >>2709831 Thanks, now i got it. Alays thought the PAL version from Gimmick got also the full audio. Is there even a way to get full Audio Gimmick on a NES, ? ( i have no famicom, just a normal europe NES)

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 13:19:10 2015 No.2711249
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>>2710562
>>2709831

Thanks, now i got it.

Always thought the PAL version from Gimmick got the full audio...

Is there even a way to get full Audio Gimmick on a NES, ? ( i have no famicom, just a normal europe NES)

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 13:20:38 2015 No.2711252 >>2711249 >paid 500 euros for the non jap version kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 13:29:25 2015 No.2711262 >>2709873 500 bongbucks?!? Fuck me, imagine how many Apple products that would have bought for your millions of muslim gangraping "refugees".

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 13:38:03 2015 No.2711296 >>2711252 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mr-Gimmick-Ultra-Rare-original-PAL-SCN-NES-WITH-manual-exellent-condition-/262002181104?hash=item3d008c03f0 blub

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 15:49:58 2015 No.2711596 test

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 18:21:40 2015 No.2711879 >>2711262 >imagine how many Apple products that would have bought About 1.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 19:44:40 2015 No.2711994

>>2711249
>Is there even a way to get full Audio Gimmick on a NES, ? ( i have no famicom, just a normal europe NES)

Not without modding the NES. Google "NES expanded audio mod" or some such. And the PAL version of Gimmick doesn't do expanded audio at all since it lacks the 5B chip. They re-worked the music so it would sound okay (but different) without the extra sound channels.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 20:05:19 2015 No.2712030 >>2709379 >pay for authentic Elvis autograph >start to have doubts that it's just a copy of his signature >lol who fuckin cares right? it still says Elvis!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:14:07 2015 No.2712306 >>2709172 How many threads are you going to samefag and post "proof" in samefag?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:21:56 2015 No.2712318 >>2710575 sunsoft was really good at using PCM basslines, check out raf world, the music is fucking mind blowing m8

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 23:48:31 2015 No.2712367

>>2711243
>>2711249
you can get full audio IF you do the resistor mod AND you have the 5B version. just google nes resistor mod, it's extremely simple to do.

the repros made from the prototype ROM are NOT full audio, and the PAL version is also NOT full audio (uses the FME-7).

>>2711252
the PAL version is probably more rare than the Japanese version, but not very useful if you actually want to play the game

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