Turok remasters

[Anonymous No.2704694]

http://www.pcgamer.com/turok-dinosaur-hunter-remasters-are-in-the-works/

Has there been ANY further info about this at all?

[Anonymous No.2704698]

>>2704694
Nope

[Anonymous No.2704703]

>>2704694
To be honest I never saw any point in this. The game works perfectly on modern systems except for the map. You can fix the map by using a glide wrapper. The graphics are fine as it is. The only real advantage to this port would be unlocking the fps limit and scaling to ridiculously high resolutions.

[Anonymous No.2704710]

>>2704703
it was kind of a pain in the ass to get Turok 2 working at 1080p with fucking hex editing. personally I wouldn't mind some better textures. one negative thing about the old turok games is that it was easy to get confused in the labyrinth-like maps because of all the samey, muddy textures everywhere. some more variation and distinction in the map textures would have done wonders.

what i'm worried about is how night dive will alter the core gameplay mechanics and animations. how fluidly the creature animations were was nothing short of amazing for 1998.

[Anonymous No.2704715]

>>2704710
Yeah the level design is really brilliant for port of adia, river of souls, city of death, then really confusing for all the cave levels afterwards.

[Anonymous No.2704717]

>>2704703

better textures and less fog would make a remaster worthwhile.

[Anonymous No.2704729]

>>2704717
You can turn fog off in both games in the pc version. Doesn't help the draw distance, though.

[Anonymous No.2704731]

>>2704729

that's what I meant, the issue is draw distance. back then they were limited with what they could do, and now they could easily expand draw distance for better aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.2704775]

>>2704717
>less fog
turok without fog is like doom without imps

[Anonymous No.2704779]

>>2704775

I don't mean get rid of it entirely. just expand the draw distance so it's not so san francisco.

[Mariana Web No.2704785]

Hey i'm new it's nice to meet you <3

[Anonymous No.2704787]

>>2704785
what

[Mariana Web No.2704789]

hi <3

[David Llama No.2704790]

>>2704785
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[Anonymous No.2704792]

>>2704785
>>2704789
>>2704790

[Anonymous No.2704843]

>>2704703
Turok 1 and 2 are really janky. Their save system is probably the worst part of the UI. This sort of engine port can streamline all that.

[Anonymous No.2705110]

>>2704715
>city of death
Do you mean Death Marshes?
>>2704843
What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.2706976]

>>2704703
You really underestimate how stupid most people are with computers. GOG makes a shitload of money alone on people who still can't figure out how to make dosbox launch a program in 2015.

[Anonymous No.2707376]

>>2704703

In addition to what other said, the music doesn't work on either game either.

[Anonymous No.2707426]

>>2706976
I thought they made money selling to people who feel morally obligated to pay for abandonware?

[Anonymous No.2707428]

>>2706976
>>2707426
Neither are incorrect.

[Anonymous No.2707431]

>>2704694
Sorry for busting your bubble but... Turok is pretty bad.

I also had good memories of it but then i mostly watched my brothers play it and i was some impressionable shitty kid. I revisited the entire series a while ago and not only it aged badly, it was never really good to begin with and really inferior to most other games that came within the same date.

[Anonymous No.2707443]

>>2707431
Oh, now I'm interested!
Tell us Anon, what makes it bad in your eyes?
Both 1&2.

[Anonymous No.2707449]

>>2707443
-the map design is atrocious, way worse than other games from the same time
-story gets uninteresting after a few minutes - the good hook from the beginning is never properly explored
-main character has no charisma nor personality (a flaw that most games of the time shared so it's not a jab only to Turok)
-enemy AI is unbelievable bad and the enemy designs themselves stop working after the whole "woo dinosaurs" novelty wears off
-the tribal shit is horrible. just like that ridiculous indian themed level from Outlaws, it's uninteresting and easily the worst part of the game. way more predominant in Turok though
-after a rather succesful follow-up the other sequels ignored all the few good aspects from the series and filled it with Generic and even more Generic.

[Anonymous No.2707453]

>>2707431
I wholeheartedly disagree. They definitely have flaws but there are certain things about Turok, mainly 2, that still hold up well to this day.

The enemy animations, the gunplay, the gore, all still very satisfying. Yes, the games suffer in terms of map textures and lack of detail as >>2704710 said. But while the maps and environment suffered from graphical limitations, they were also massive and non-linear, something sorely missing in modern FPS.

Turok 2 is a prime example of a game that was too ambitious for its time. A modern remake that took elements of what it did right and fixed what it didn't would be one of the best FPS games ever made.

[Anonymous No.2707516]

>>2707449
>map
I admit, it is convoluted at times, but I write it off as their charm.
>story
Just a pretext to blast dinos, I don't mind.
>main char
blank slate you're supposed to self-insert yourself into.
>AI
How so? I admit, in 1 you can basically kill everyone by running around with a knife alone(I wish there were knife in 2 instead of that talon glove), but that using mouse & keyb.
I cant imagine doing the same with keyb alone or the controller.
In 2 enemies are good. They are varied, scale well with the difficulty and animations are nice.
Goading dinos into fighting each other to the death is cherry on the top.
I wish there were MORE dino enemies in 2.
A giant T-rex or pterodactyl or some shit.
Less humanlike, more dino.
>tribal
Again, took it as its charm.
>sequels
Didn't play, but from the vids I can believe your opinion.

[Anonymous No.2707715]

I wonder if they'll ever port 3 and Rage Wars.

>inb4 golden man of console exclusivty

[Anonymous No.2707753]

[Anonymous No.2707764]

>>2707715
I miss ragewars and my n64 and the people i used to play with...

I really need to buy a n64 again... Fucking mother secretly gave it away when i bought a gamecube

[Anonymous No.2707815]

>>2707449
-Keyhunting and Lair of the blind ones are probably your reasons to hate the level design, and maybe the fog.
-Read the comics if you want the story, they predate the game by 40 years (Yes, Turok was a thing since the 50's)
-Not a flaw, first person games in that era were meant to make the player (YOU) to self insert in the game. Not everyone should be like Duke Nukem or any other build engine game.
-Turok 1 is simple when it comes to AI, its kinda like Doom where all enemies just charge to you or shoot you if they have a gun, some enemies got new attacks in later levels. Turok 2 on the other hand, had a slightly advanced AI, Dinozoids for example, they move in zig-zag sometimes unlike in Turok 1 where enemies just move in a straight line. Also, the enemy designs are kinda unique (and still are) because you don't see cyborg dinosaurs in modern vidya. Then again, the dinosaurs fad died off with the disaster that was Jurrasic Park 3.
-Tribal shit wasn't exactly a problem, but come on, comparing probably Level 3 - The Ancient city to anything from Outlaws is just silly.
-If you're talking about Turok 3 then yeah, Turok 3 dropped the ball and the soap at the same time. Turok Evolution was pretty cool though, but not as good as Turok 1 and 2. Rage Wars doesn't count because this is a multiplayer oriented game.

Turok is not for everyone i guess...

[Anonymous No.2707867]

>>2707815
>-Read the comics if you want the story, they predate the game by 40 years (Yes, Turok was a thing since the 50's)
Mah nigga.

[Anonymous No.2707945]

>>2705110
>What do you mean by that?
On PC, the save menu is fiddly. Making saves is fiddly. Removing them is fiddly.

[Anonymous No.2707946]

>>2707376
>In addition to what other said, the music doesn't work on either game either.
There's a patch for that.

[Anonymous No.2708002]

>>2707426
They do but they make more money off of idiots who don't know how to set older games up.

[Anonymous No.2708013]

>>2708002
Not knowing how, and not wanting to deal with the bullshit, are different things, even if the result looks the same to you. I mean, there's a reason people buy Macs instead of soldering their own mobos, and install Windows instead of compiling Gentoo.

[Anonymous No.2708048]

>>2707946
Patch doesn't work all the times and good luck getting the music to play in Dinosaur Hunter.

[Anonymous No.2708061]

>>2707764
Rage Wars was the perfect game to be on console and PC, it would've benefited immensely from a PC release. I can understand 3 staying N64 exclusive, but a multiplayer FPS staying console exclusive? That's kinda silly.

[Anonymous No.2708274]

>>2708048
>>2707376
I know the music works reliably in 2 with the patch and mounting the music iso with daemon tools, but I haven't tried it with 1 yet

[Anonymous No.2708282]

>>2708274
I got the music to work in 1 by just burning the ISO to a CD-R and playing the game off that like if it were a normal copy.

[Anonymous No.2708289]

I'm surprised there isn't a page or two about the Turok games on PCGamingWiki. That places has all the fixes for most PC games, from old ones to new games. So maybe someone who knows about fixing these games up could contribute some info?

[Anonymous No.2708290]

>>2708274
>>2708282
In my case, the music only loops once in dinosaur hunter and seeds of evil and opening the console for 2 means constantly changing the tracks manually ONLY TO HAVE THE FUCKING MUSIC SUDDENLY STOP AT RANDOM TIMES.

Oh, and then there's alt+tab and ctrl+shift+esc crashes both games.

[Anonymous No.2708297]

>>2708290
>In my case, the music only loops once in dinosaur hunter and seeds of evil

Fuck, I forgot about that, you're right

[Anonymous No.2709239]

>>2708290
>only loops once
so it plays twice, or do you mean that it doesn't loop at all and plays only once?

anyway, works for me

[Anonymous No.2709293]

>>2709239
Music either loops once, doesn't play at all or just suddenly stops.

[Anonymous No.2709313]

>>2704703
I agree, it's a dumb idea.

Turok 1&2 suck in 2015 and aren't worth playing anymore.

[Anonymous No.2709337]

>>2704703
I had serious problems with 2 on PC. It crashed when I progressed too much at a time, crashed after saving a game, and crashed when deleting a save file (since you can't overwrite saves, it basically stopped my progress once I hit the limit). I also found an "HD patch" that was thrown together by some 13 year old, which tossed beer cans, weed leaves and the like all over everything. it was kind of funny in a really stupid way

Something else they could do would be fix the hidden co-op mode in Turok 2. It was so close to being functional, if they had just fixed the teleporters it would have worked. Of course back then it destroyed performance, but nowadays any computer could handle it.

[Anonymous No.2709347]

Turok's gunplay is shit. The movement also sucks. The only thing Turok 2 had going for it was level design. Gameplay was always gross. Hell T2's gameplay was also inferior to the first game's.

[Anonymous No.2710257]

>>2709347
How can one opinion be so wrong

[Anonymous No.2710294]

I asked my friend if he liked Turok, he said he didn't because it was a 'cerebral bore.'

[Anonymous No.2710304]

>>2707453
>Turok 2 is a prime example of a game that was too ambitious for its time.

There will never be a game like Turok 2 again. The weapons, the enemies, the music, the sense of evil and adventure. It wasn't always perfect but where it succeeded it surpassed anything else at the time.

[Anonymous No.2710604]

>>2710257
>pleb defending a shit tier n64 shooter in 2015
how can your face be so wrong?

[Anonymous No.2710606]

>>2710304
>It wasn't always perfect but where it succeeded it surpassed anything else at the time.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.2710720]

What's with people shitting on the best Turok games? Did some e-celebrity play and talked shit about them?

[Anonymous No.2710786]

>>2710604
it was also on PC you stupid mong

[Anonymous No.2710794]

>>2709347
>Turok's gunplay is shit.

I just don't understand how some people can think this.

[Anonymous No.2710801]

>>2710720
It's cool and hip to have a contradictory opinion.

[Anonymous No.2710814]

>>2710794

[Anonymous No.2711158]

>>2710814

[Anonymous No.2711173]

>>2710786
and it sucked balls there too

[Anonymous No.2711178]

>>2710794
having gimmicky gory death animations does not mean the gunplay is good you mong

[Anonymous No.2711182]

>>2711178
No, the gun animations having weight, impact, and smoothness do, which Turok 2 weapons do. I'm sorry for your shit taste.

[Anonymous No.2711186]

>>2711178
>hurr look at me i have two barrels

[Anonymous No.2711187]

>>2711182
top kek. turok 2 feels like ass. and this is coming from someone that grew up with the game, too. eat shit kid.

[Anonymous No.2711191]

>>2711187
Hot opinions you got there. You don't know shit about satisfying gunplay. Go be a shitposting retard somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.2711193]

>>2711186
god just look at this shitty slow sludgy ass clunky movement. turok 2 is such a gigantic piece of shit holy fuck.

[Anonymous No.2711195]

>>2711186
>dat lag from when the shotgun hits him and the animation kicks in
hahahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.2711201]

>>2711178
>>2711193
are you trying to imply this is good gunplay

because that's some weak ass shit

[Anonymous No.2711205]

>>2711187
>>2711193
quake has no guns variety
>two hitscan guns, smaller and bigger
>two projectile guns, smaller and bigger
>two splash damage guns
>a laser gun
>an axe with like 3 frames of animation per attack

>no stealth weapons
>no scoped weapons
>no stun weapons
>no ricocheting projectiles
>no homing projectiles
>no flamethrower
>no dedicated underwater weapons

[Anonymous No.2711207]

>>2711195
stop laughing

[Charybdis No.2711216]

>>2711195

[Anonymous No.2711220]

>>2711201
>true weapon functionality is "weak ass shit"
>fast fluid responsive combat is bad
>killing zero threat retards one at a time in turok with gimmicky weapons and gimmicky death animations is good
>turok, with its shithouse slow movement and sludgy mechanics, has better gameplay than quake
hahahahahahaha

>>2711205
>>2711205
>>no stealth weapons
>>no scoped weapons
>>no stun weapons
>>no ricocheting projectiles
>>no homing projectiles
>>no flamethrower
>>no dedicated underwater weapons
like any of that shit even matters. Fuck in Turok 2 the normal pistol is almost as useful as the fucking shotgun. the enemies are so ridiculously fucking useless. the only reason to switch between most weapons is just to see what gimmicky death animation it will give rather than actual benefits to core gameplay mechanics.

Turok is literal shithouse. Only retards think it's good. You guys don't know shit about FPS and probably suck at all things multiplayer.

[Anonymous No.2711231]

>>2711220
>like any of that shit even matters
>weapon variety doesn't matter

at least this thread had a good run before some shithead quake fanboy showed up.

[Anonymous No.2711236]

>>2711205
>stealth
Axe
>scoped
Every weapon has a zoom
>Stun
Pain mechanic
>Ricochets
Grenade Launcher, are you fucking serious?
>Homing, flames
No FPS needs this shit.
>Dedicated underwater weaponry
Why the fuck would I want my offensive options limited?

[Anonymous No.2711248]

Quake and Turok aren't even remotely similar. What is the point of this argument.

[Anonymous No.2711276]

>>2710794
What is even the point of the Plasma Rifle? It was like a weaker shotgun that was worse in every way, except you could snipe with it.

[Anonymous No.2711407]

>>2711276
>you could snipe with it
answered your own question there, friend

[Anonymous No.2711428]

>>2711407
The Tek Bow does that as well. Even better, you can pick up the arrows once you use them, especially considering the scarcity of the PR's ammo. The only good thing about the Plasma Rifle was the fact that the Firestorm Canon was it's alternate.

[Anonymous No.2711595]

>>2711178
Part what makes satisfying gunplay is how the environment reacts to your weapons, including the enemies.

If the enemies in Turok just died with ragdoll physics and a little mist of blood, then the guns wouldn't feel as powerful as they do. It's satisfying as fuck to see all of those detailed blood and gore effects in combination with the well-animated death sequences.

But please, continue shitposting like you've got a clue what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.2711705]

[Anonymous No.2711897]

>>2711248
>What is the point of this argument?

Gotta collect those sweet internet golds to prove that one's taste is superior to the other.

[Anonymous No.2712039]

>>2711236
>>Ricochets
>Grenade Launcher, are you fucking serious?
He's referring to bullets ricocheting. Eurocom's The World is Not Enough and Turok both toyed with it quite heavily.

[Anonymous No.2712096]

thanks for the turok webms, convinced me to try turok 2 again

[Anonymous No.2712135]

>>2711428
>especially considering the scarcity of the PR's ammo
>Ammo ever being a problem in Turok 2

Do people not know the location of the ammo/health dumps?

[Anonymous No.2712153]

>>2711220
I haven't played Turok 2 but
>Quake
>Good Gunplay
Doom did it better.

[Anonymous No.2712154]

>>2712039
Grenades are projectiles. If he meant bullets, he should have said so.

I got no beef with Turok, but I don't take kindly to people making shit up about my favourite game to stroke their egos. Shit is apples and oranges but you don't need to lie to make your points, guys.

[Anonymous No.2712167]

Turok 2 has confusing level design and lacks the charm of Turok where you are like a tribal member and do mystic stuff like that awesome feather that turns the game into a rave.

[Anonymous No.2712214]

>>2712039
>>2712154
the shredder ricochets shotgun pellets

[Anonymous No.2712301]

>>2710794
Probably by not being an edgy 14 year old twat.

[Anonymous No.2712497]

>>2712167
Only a couple of levels like Lair of the Blind Ones got really confusing. Otherwise it was very solid.

I liked the tone they went with in Turok 2. It was almost an action horror FPS with the creatures designs and atmosphere. I still enjoy the first one but they really took everything to the next level in T2.

[Anonymous No.2712520]

>>2712153
Awww cute the Doom babies are here.

[Anonymous No.2714145]

>>2711187
>kid
opinion can now officially be discrded

[Anonymous No.2714358]

>>2711428
PR is hitscan, TB is not
makes a lot of difference when shooting a moving target

[Anonymous No.2715505]

[Anonymous No.2716767]

>>2714358
>not sniping that fucker from afar

Shiggy

[Anonymous No.2716807]

>>2716767
would have, if i haven't forgotten about him

[Anonymous No.2716890]

>>2715505
Hive of the Mantids has such a frustrating map.

[Anonymous No.2716895]

>>2716890
It's probably the most straightforward level.

Want batshit insane? Try Lair of the Fun Times.

[Anonymous No.2716908]

>>2716895
>Lair of the Fun Times

[Anonymous No.2718684]

>no cerebral bore webm
not letting it die without one

[Anonymous No.2719040]

Part of me wants to see the rereleases of the Turok games plugged with various modern graphical effects like dynamic lighting and tesselation. Maybe even throw in some nVidia GameWorks effects as well, why not. It'd be like playing Cryostasis all over again.

[Anonymous No.2720761]

>>2719040
I'd just be happy with increased draw distance.