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Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:17:35 2015 No.2704192 [Reply] [Original]

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCK!!!!

Why can't I do a fucking walljump?! Am I retarded or something? How gud do I need to git before I'm gud enough to do a fucking walljump and get whatever the fuck is at the top of this fucking shaft?!

Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:26:01 2015 No.2704214

>>2704192
Just slow down and take your time.

In order to do a walljump, you need to do a rolling (directional) jump toward a wall, press the d-pad away from the wall, and then press jump. When you push the d-pad away from the wall, you'll see Samus grab the wall for a moment; that's your cue to jump. A lot of people mess this up because they try to jump too early.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:26:31 2015 No.2704215 Press the direction you're walljumping slightly before the jump button. Then git gud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:34:05 2015 No.2704229 >>2704214 >>2704215 Thanks, but I'm giving up for now. I tried slowing my emulator down to 1/10 speed, and I still never saw the animation where she grabs the wall. Maybe tomorrow I'll git gud but for tonight I'm pussying out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:39:18 2015 No.2704240 Wall jumping in Super Metroid is kind of weird but once you get used to it it's easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:40:18 2015 No.2704245 >>2704240 I remember it seeming impossible the first time I tried, but what you say is true

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:51:09 2015 No.2704259 File: 66 KB, 1024x448, Super_Metroid000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2704229 This is the animation frame you're looking for.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 26 23:55:15 2015 No.2704264 >>2704259 I can consistently get it on the left, but it's the right that was killing me. Guess I've just got to watch for Samus' ass.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 00:00:15 2015 No.2704269

>>2704264
Another thing that can mess you up is accidentally hitting up or down during your jump. That cancels your rolling, and prevents you from pulling off a wall jump. If it becomes a serious problem, you could disable / reassign the up / down buttons while you're trying to wall jump.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 00:02:29 2015 No.2704274 >>2704269 Thanks, man. I'm sometimes accidentally morphballing after a successful walljump, which just pisses me off to no end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 00:34:58 2015 No.2704323 >>2704192 nigga go home. i can do wall jumps all day and i play on my keyboard

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 00:59:44 2015 No.2704341 >>2704323 Wall jumps are actually easier on a keyboard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:23:06 2015 No.2704367 Now do the mockball, gravity jump and infinite bomb jump

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:38:53 2015 No.2704384

you can only do a walljump when:

>you are in the air
>you are near a wall
>you are falling downwards rather than moving upwards
>you are pressing the directional button away from the wall
>you are not too far from the wall yet
>you press the jump button

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 01:45:51 2015 No.2704392 >>2704384 >you are falling downwards rather than moving upwards Nope, you can wall jump while you're still moving upward. Also, you need to be spinning. You can't wall jump from a normal jump.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:28:46 2015 No.2704938

>>2704341
I found it easier to learn walljumping on the keyboard, but for general execution, I find gamepad to be superior.

>>2704384
>you are falling downwards rather than moving upwards
Incorrect as >>2704392 says. If you watch a speedrun, you'll see plenty of walljumps executed while Samus is still moving upwards.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:31:33 2015 No.2704941
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>sweat blood to get to the top
>there's a small corridor on the right
>try to get to it
>fall down
>frantically steer left and right, falling past the ledges
>end up at the bottom
>KEK KEK KEK
>KEK KEK KEK

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 10:53:43 2015 No.2704984 The whole area is training for wall jump, which from what I recall you never need to do unless you want do certain things out of order. I always game the shit of it though, wall jumping while hard to master, is fun as fuck.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 11:08:18 2015 No.2704998

>on the very first you are required to do walljumps
>see those little gremlings doing it
>be clueless
>think I should have some powerup before I fell down here
>try to back up with MORPH BALL BOMB BOUNCING
>hundreds of tries, about 4 hours later, get to the top
It was only later that a cousin told me I could walljump

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 12:40:53 2015 No.2705093
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>>2704192
Just for you, I recorded myself doing this on my phone.

I'm not the best at wall jumping.

I've never used software for recording on my phone.

Not great video, and I'm not great at editing videos. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 27 13:28:14 2015 No.2705140 The display you're using has too much delay and you're not allowing for it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 27 14:25:00 2015 No.2705220
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>>2704192
Maybe thinking about it like this might help.

All that is required for the game to let you wall jump is that you are doing a somersault and moving away from a close by wall. This enables the "grab" state from which Samus can wall jump if jump is pressed.

When somersaulting, the game checks the direction Samus is moving in for walls to stop her movement, but it also checks the opposite direction. If the opposite direction "hits" a wall, then Samus transitions to the grab state.

To practice, somersault into a tall wall such that Samus is spinning but she has no horizontal motion because she was stopped by the wall. Then press the direction away from the wall, and almost immediately after the jump button. You should wall jump.

It becomes second nature once you get the hang of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:33:46 2015 No.2707131 >>2704274 Then stop being fucking retarded, that's your problem.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 10:35:14 2015 No.2707135 >>2705093 >A on top, Y on the bottom Whoever made that emulator layout is a worthless piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 12:14:27 2015 No.2707259 >>2707135 I can change it. I'm just too lazy to because I'd rather play SNES games on my other systems.

Anonymous Mon Sep 28 20:36:35 2015 No.2708147
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>>2704367
>Now do the mockball, gravity jump and infinite bomb jump

pfffttt... Do the shinemock.
I'm actually unaware of anywhere this will help you in SM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 20:38:06 2015 No.2708152 Iain

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 20:42:51 2015 No.2708162 >>2708147 Actually derp it's called a speedball.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 20:46:42 2015 No.2708165 Is that the area where the animals teach you how to shinespark?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 20:54:18 2015 No.2708182 >>2708165 No the area where you learn to shinespark is beigish and has no ledges and is wider. Also it's just the ostrich thing not really plural there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 28 21:36:31 2015 No.2708278 >>2708162 There is a missile upgrade in the bottom of crateria. (?) I think. I can picture it in my head and I have'nt played the game in 15 years, help me please.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 01:16:11 2015 No.2708613

Best advice I can give, besides all the advice already given:

SM's wall jump is very methodical. It's much, much, MUCH slower paced than it has any need to be. Seriously.

It's "toward...away, and jump"
Most people make the mistake of thinking the timing is faster, closer to "towardjumpandaway" and it's not.

Once you get better at it, you can do it faster, but it is very methodical like I said. It's a three count, with each button press very distinct, and actually having a huge window from one to the other, rather than it being very fast paced, rapid two count.

Seriously, just slow down and count 1 to the wall, 2 away, 3 jump. It's waltz rhythm. Literally.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 10:40:19 2015 No.2709149 >>2708152 A shame you seemed an honest man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:24:22 2015 No.2709202 >>2708278 Are you suggesting a the lowest missile in the old motherbrain tank?

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 11:26:28 2015 No.2709205

>>2708613
One of the biggest things to get down with it is not hitting diagonals while switching sides. imho it's best to physically lift your thumb off the pad and swap sides when doing it rather than attempting to roll the thumb to the other side - which has a higher percentage of fucking up even if it's pretty fucking close.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 18:57:05 2015 No.2709926 >>2709202 No, it's through like three hidden walls and the tube to get it is only one tile high.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 19:22:51 2015 No.2709956 Now do the full halfy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VvW75klgWQ

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 29 19:32:10 2015 No.2709972 >>2709926 >>2709202 Oh god, how emabarrasing, I was thinking about the super missile break in zero mission apparently.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 19:37:49 2015 No.2709983

>>2709205
>lift your thumb off

That's what I was getting at with
>each button press very distinct

Thanks for saying that, though. It was difficult to explain in text without being able to physically show what I meant. Which is why my post may come off as rambling.

Anonymous Tue Sep 29 20:32:00 2015 No.2710087
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Is it possible to get out of Maridia's water section, in this situation? I can't seem to find a way out. I can't open the super missile gate from this side, and I can't cross the falling sand at the other end of the hallway.

Anonymous Wed Sep 30 00:47:21 2015 No.2710474

>>2710087
Um, I think that room has a failsafe. In that you can sink down into the sand into the rooms below.
You're "supposed" to have the Gravity suit by the time you work your way back down into there. But I'm pretty sure they put the false floors there specifically for when you get there without it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 11:42:09 2015 No.2711117 >>2710087 >red suit >in maridia WTF R U DOIN

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 30 13:49:53 2015 No.2711330 >>2710087 Pay attention to the crabs in the area. And get the fucking gravity suit.

Anonymous Thu Oct 1 01:26:52 2015 No.2712524

>>2711330
>Pay attention to the crabs in the area.
Thanks for this. I found the hole in the floor under that platform.

I thought that since I was able to get into that area from the bottom (via the room with the glass passageway that you blow up), I might be able to work my way through to whatever's on the other end, but it didn't quite turn out that way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 1 02:02:05 2015 No.2712541 >>2704192 Keep at it anon, took me an hour to finally get all the way up there for the energy tank. After that you'll never have to use it again, really.

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