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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2680514
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

===WEBSITE/COMMUNITY===

http://doomwiki.org/
The OFFICIAL Doom Wiki, actively maintained and supported by the Doom community. Want to learn more about Doom? Check this site first!

FAQ/Pastebin, updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

Image database
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
http://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom? (v5)
https://data.archive.moe/board/vr/image/1408/04/1408049162719.png

Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
/idgames torrent (as of 2013-11-25; 12GB): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

## Our WADs can be found here! ##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
http://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

## /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY PROJECT ##
Famous monuments, landmarks, or places of interest
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2619435 - Announcement
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2619669 - Rules

>> No.2689172

===NEWS===

[09-18] 50 Shades Of Graytall released (late news)
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=18205

[09-18] The /newstuff Chronicles #482
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4489

[09-16] Doomworld now available via https
https://www.doomworld.com/
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1420875

[09-14] Icar2015: a 11-map set for Icarus, by Eternal
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/74589-icar2015/

[09-13] Strange Aeons v3.5
>>2679170
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49369

[09-12] Anon mod release: Mugshot / Ammo display HUD
>>2676321
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/dumbhud.pk3

[09-11] Reelism X3 released, right on schedule!
http://www.thekinsie.com/reelism/

[09-10] The /newstuff Chronicles #481
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4487

[09-08] Hocus Doom update
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=858445#p858445

[09-05] Anon mod release: arrow.wad
>>2663984
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pinkzcnlfe6wd6m/arrow.wad

[09-05] DoomRLA: "release date set for 19th" - Yholl
>>2661090

[09-04] The /newstuff Chronicles #480
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4483

[09-03] Danimator: a GUI tool for creating DECORATE offset animations
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49494

[09-02] Discord for /vr/ Steam group
>>2658514
https://discord.gg/0UcBfIOPKz8Tsx66

[09-02] Doomero is making a Doom 3 TC for GZDoom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6UviHCc7mM

[08-31] Portals in Vanilla Doom via BSP hacking
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1415687

[08-31] Anon map release: Secret Nazi Moon Base v3a/b
>>2653316

[08-29] GZDoom-GPL - GPL'ed GZDoom for indies
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=49451

[08-27] The /newstuff Chronicles #479
https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4478

[08-27] The Lazy Motherfuckers Quake Pack
>>2642869
https://mega.nz/#!8MlzHK5A!_dDotjEfkUhYPdkGhn2ZWtVaruEt0R75noIcxJkHwyo

===

To submit news, please reply to this post.

>> No.2689178
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2689178

first for free as in freedoom

>> No.2689179

Why is the screen wavy when I look in Zandro?

>> No.2689248
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WE CAN ALL AGREE THIS IS THE BEST DOOM WALKING ANIMATION EVER MADE BECAUSE OF THE RANDOM ARM SWAYING


seriously though why does the strife guy and other characters move their arm like that

couldn't drawn their arms doing something else

>> No.2689258

>>2689248
>seriously though why does the strife guy and other characters move their arm like that

Same answer as the last time you asked the question, because they're repurposed Zombieman sprites.

>>2689179

Use OpenGL.

>> No.2689265

Given the recent release of 50 Shades of Graytall, what's your opinion on jokewads? I'm referring both to jokewads that still have decent gameplay (e.g. Graytall, pol.wad) and those that don't (e.g. Mock 2).

>> No.2689334

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBLTksBvLHc

A remix of the Slime Dweller music from Plutonia 2 wad

>> No.2689538

>>2689265
whether it's a joke wad or not is entirely orthogonal to the actually important stuff.

if the maps are fun it doesn't matter if the wad is meant to be a joke. conversely if it's annoying to play, deliberately or otherwise, it doesn't matter if it's meant to be a serious work.

>> No.2689554

>>2689170

Do not pet the cacodemon

>> No.2689563
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>>2689554
DO_NOT_PET_THE_CACODEMON

>> No.2689576 [DELETED] 

>>2689248
With shit like this we might as well move the thread to /vg/ at this point.

>> No.2689660

>>2689563
But he looks so snuggly and cute~ ;n;

>> No.2689694
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>>2689660
Here, just have a drink.

>> No.2689696

>>2689694
Now that sounds like a demonically refreshing drink

>> No.2689723

I just bought Doom for PS1, am I in for the best console Doom experience of my life or do I have a $15 dust collector (CiB so nice)?

>> No.2689737

>>2689723
>Doom for PS1
It's considered a good port generally.
It does some of it's own little things though, has it's own set of sounds, lacks a few levels.

I think the Doom releases for last gen consoles were fine, despite small bits of censorship, all the levels are there, and the controls are by far the best console controls Doom has ever had.

>> No.2689743

>>2689179
Try turning on vertical sync

>> No.2689745

>>2689723
It's pretty good. Doom 1 levels are based on the simplified Jaguar maps and the framerate can be a bit iffy, but it has a spooky ambient soundtrack, nice coloured lighting, and some cool original secret maps. It's definitely good quality.

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I'm gonna ask one more time because I'd really like to see if it exists.
Are there any mods for Heretic that do some weapon re-skinning? Not actually altering the gameplay, just think Smooth Doom but for Heretic. Heretic weapons are just unsatisfying and I'd like to know if there is a mod to change sprites/sounds/animations without actually altering game balance.

>> No.2689771

What is the funkiest wad?

funk as in kool and the gang

>> No.2689776

>>2689258
Already on.

>>2689743
Did the trick. thanks fam

>> No.2689842

Sup /DOOM/, a few threads ago there was a dude that said he found a way to play Blood with high resolution and good framerate. He said he'd post a download link to his setup eventually. Did that already happen and I missed it?

>> No.2689847 [DELETED] 

>whenever Yholl feels like it until DoomRLA 1.0

>> No.2689859
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>>2689753
Not yet!

>> No.2689860
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2689860

>whenever Yholl feels like it until DoomRLA 1.0

>> No.2689863

>>2689753
Does Heretic even have any good wads for it?

I'm itching to fuck shit up fantasy style again.

>> No.2689873

>>2689842
https://archive.moe/vr/thread/2652991/#2662986

>> No.2689928

>>2689873
what's stopping you from installing qemu? I can't imagine how it's going to run without the actual hypervisor on windows tho?

If you're on linux it's easy as installing the package and if you want an easy to use interface, also install libvirt and virt-manager. Doing this, it'll work the same as VBox, difference is it'll use QEMU+KVM to emulate devices and for I/O between host and guest. You can even run VBox through libvirt if it fancies you.

>> No.2689934

So, I'm working on a wad that involves a huge sword. So I ripped and tweaked the art from Hexen's Quietus, and put it into the wad. Only problem is, whenever I test it out, it pops up as 'HolySword at (X, X) Has no frames', no matter where I put the png files. They're all validly named as XXXXA0, but they're just not working.

>> No.2689941

>>2689934
did you put them in the sprites directory, did you format your decorate correctly with all the right brackets and states

does it have a spawn state / sprite

>> No.2689956

>>2689873
Yup, that's the post. No download yet though? Too bad.

>> No.2689961

>>2689941
>>2689941
I did, I did, and it does.

It's frustrating.

>> No.2689993
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2689993

>playing aow
>blue
>red plants bombs on the refinery
>teammate near it
>my exact quote was" get them" "in the refinery"
>lets them blow it up
>mfw

>> No.2690008 [DELETED] 

>>2689170
I've loved Doom in all its forms but there's something out to destroy everything we've loved so far
>>2689920 get in there and share your thoughts

>> No.2690027

>>2690008
The only reason someone gave me why this was a bad thing is because it's hipster trash. Why are people so goddamn worried about it? If anything it'll just die the same way the OUYA did.

>> No.2690036

>>2689993
In the time that I played years back, there was actually valid reasoning for doing that. If you had time to repair the damage it was more rewarding to do so than to bother defusing the bombs. I don't know if that's changed, but given how slow AOW players are to adapt to new ideas, I doubt that it has.

>> No.2690097

>>2690036
it was total demolition, 60% to 0% & it could've been prevented.

>> No.2690138
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2690138

Not retro, but may be relevant to people's interest:

unrealtournament.com

The new Unreal Tournament got a new release. 3 new fully textured maps: CTF-Pistola, CTF-Face (pic related), and CTF-Titan. There are new gun models, and a progresssion and customization system in place.

They've been streaming gameplay for a while at twitch /unrealtournament

>> No.2690140

>>2690138
Fuckin nice

>> No.2690143

>>2690138
Just a warning for people playing the tutorial mode for the item: the CTF training is broken, meaning you can only get 55 of the 60 tokens, which is required to obtain the item.

>> No.2690147

>>2690143
Noticed that, hope they fix it quick.
I need my hats, yo

>> No.2690180

Man, doomseeker doens't detect any hideous destructor servers.

Is it just not possible, or people don't play?

>> No.2690190

>>2690180

Hideous Destructor servers cannot be hosted yet.
When Zandronum updates to 3.0 or 4.0, then there might be.

>> No.2690194

>>2690190
By the time Zandronum catches up with Hideous Destructor, it will be on version 7.0

>> No.2690195

>>2690180
Hideous Destructor is pretty advanced, and Zandronum, while having the best multiplayer support, isn't 100% up to snuff with ZDoom code.

Hopefully, Gloom can usurp ZDoom some day.

>> No.2690198

If DRLA 1.0 doesn't come out today, I'm ending it.

>> No.2690202

Yholl, please delay DRLA 1.0 just so I can watch >>2690198 suffer and Sarais throw another spergfit.

>> No.2690205

>>2690202
if its delayed it'll prob be out like tomorrow or something. he's just bugfixing shotguns

>> No.2690215

>>2690195
>Hopefully, Gloom can usurp ZDoom some day.
Yeah, and a monkey'll crawl outta my butt.

>>2690202
I wholeheartedly agree with this man.

>> No.2690218

>>2689723
I've heard all kinds of things about the rendering glitches, but I don't actually know what they look like. Post some screenshots if you see anything weird.

>> No.2690235

>>2690195
I don't really want that, but TheZombieKiller is working on an engine named LXDEngine (Not to be confused with the Light X Desktop Environment) which is to be ZDoom with backward compatibility stripped and replaced with Lua.
I'm also on the contributor list but I haven't done anything yet since I've been helping David with getting Lua to compile with GDCC.

>> No.2690237

>>2689860
>he seriously thought it would happen on the 19th

>> No.2690240

>>2690235
>Lua
God's blood, that's the last thing we need, another fucking Lua monstrosity. Maybe we can talk him out of it?

>> No.2690242

>>2690240
What's wrong with Lua?

>> No.2690246
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>>2690237
>whenever Yholl feels like it until DoomRLA 1.0

>> No.2690248

>>2690202

...now that explains a lot

>> No.2690251

>>2690242
It's verbose, alien, and full of leaky abstractions. Engine developers like it because it's easy to embed, but actually writing code in it is complex and error-prone.

>> No.2690257

>>2690251
Uh, sure, I guess. I really don't want to start a fight over something like this, but I will say that I don't think any of your points are valid.

>> No.2690263

>>2690257
not him but i hate languages that spell out their punctuation

>> No.2690310

>>2690235
>compile Lua with GDCC
why do you need an acs bytecode version of lua

>> No.2690318

>>2690310
I don't. It's a test to see if GDCC can compile a portable C library.

>> No.2690409

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGpnvAanOHM

A remix for the Dark Side levels of Duke Nukem 3D

>> No.2690414

>>2690235
>ZDoom with backward compatibility stripped and replaced with Lua.
Wait, what? Elaborate on this, what does it replace with Lua? And for gods sake, why?

>> No.2690420

>>2690414
Decorate, ACS and friends.

>> No.2690443

>>2690251
>but actually writing code in it is complex and error-prone.
>complex

Lua is literally one of the easiest fucking languages to learn and manage, the single fact that it handles everything smoothly with only 4 data-types and completelly functional programming is a blessing in itself.

Not only that, Lua metaprogramming allows it to wrap around anything, anyhow, anyway. If you think Lua is complex then I don't know what the fuck you're coding with, it's easier than any other language in the market, stat.

And how the hell is Lua error-prone?

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>>2690202

Mission accomplished, told Yholl to go the fuck to sleep.
Release tomorrow or day after, nerds.

>> No.2690467

>>2690464
is this picture referencing something

>> No.2690471 [DELETED] 

>>2690464
think at this point its safe to say youre more autistic than that other anon

>> No.2690478

>>2690420
Why would you replace Decorate, a simple and functional coding language which is dead simple to learn, and replace it with LUA, when it doesn't do anything different?

>> No.2690484

>>2690467
it references an enemy in the old retro game doom ii

>> No.2690490

>>2690138
Fucking vagina-shaped hole being oppressed by two phallic towers, this game is DISGUSTING

>> No.2690495

>>2690484
so funny
i'm talking about the text

>> No.2690507
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2690507

Wrinkly
Old
Bones

>> No.2690545 [DELETED] 

>>2690471
kill yourself

>> No.2690547

>>2690507

That's a short shottie.

>> No.2690549 [DELETED] 

>>2690545
you really ARE more autistic than that other anon

>> No.2690554

>>2690507
oh god dat super shotgun

>> No.2690559

>>2690495
no, really.
it was an old geocities site talking about doom ii. that was the caption of that gif.

>> No.2690561
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2690561

the finished beta ss was p badass. i almost like it better than the current one

>> No.2690562
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>tweaking weapon_roulette.pk3 overnight attempting to get smooth doom compatibility
>it broke everything
>okay.jpg
>check out the zdoom forums out of curiosity as well as in hopes that RLA finally updated
>"WeaponRoulette - Now with Smooth Doom compatibility!"

based as fuck

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>>2690561
>polymer stock
>better

>> No.2690570 [DELETED] 

>>2690549
that was one quick reply, great job

>> No.2690571

>>2690569
it works better for scifi shit

>> No.2690585 [DELETED] 

>>2690570
anon youre celebrating delaying an update by a day to maybe piss off one or two randies on the internet. quit trying to make anyone else feel bad

>> No.2690595 [DELETED] 

>>2690585
not really, I just had a really shitty day today and decided to take it out on you for no reason whatsoever

>> No.2690604 [DELETED] 

>>2690595
sorry you had a bad day but being an asshole is just going to make you feel worse.

>> No.2690630
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>>2690604
let's just say former anon was dumb for being dumb, reply anon was dumb for being dumb, and reply anon was angry for no reason and should all go back to playing Doom and not turn this into a hug group and leave it at that.

>> No.2690642

>>2690571
you disgust me

>> No.2690659

>>2690630
The /idgames challenge server is still up.
:: [BE] Montreal :: The /vr/DOOM /idgames Challenge
Password: rage!

>> No.2690687

We need Demonsteele /vr/ zandro

>> No.2690692
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>> No.2690698

>>2690692
jesus christ anon I JUST fapped

>> No.2690705

>>2690478
Fun? Learning? To spite you?
I suppose I didn't exactly advertise it correctly, sorry.

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>>2690138
>Map looks really bright
>Ground is covered in grass, rather than orange-ish dirt
>The skybox doesn't even spin
DROPPED

>> No.2690710

>>2690490

>>>/avgn/

>> No.2690730
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>>2690692

>> No.2690734

What goes well with Demonsteele?

>> No.2690737

>>2690734
Brutal Doom :^)

>> No.2690739

>>2690734
Scythe 2

>> No.2690741

>>2690730
mushrooms kickin' in...

>> No.2690746

>>2690741

but thats not rott anon :V

>> No.2690748

Are there any doom mods like strife? I mean open-world maps with characters fo interact with and an over arching storyline.

>> No.2690750

>>2690709
fag

>> No.2690757

>>2690748
I hear Mortila is good, but I haven't given it a shot.

>>2690734
The Eye, Scythe 2, Going Down (have fun on Megahurts), Brotherhood of Ruin

>> No.2690761

>>2690757
>The Eye,

You want to kill him, anon?

>> No.2690762

>>2690750
Fagulor

>> No.2690763

>>2690709
You better be joking, because that's not only really spergy, but the new design fits the UT4 art really well.

>>2690734
I like to use Sunder with it.

>>2690748
You can try the Foreverhood, but it doesn't have any shooting.

>> No.2690783

>>2690763
>someone points out loss of attention to detail in a remake

>hurr ur a sperg

Fucking fantastic. Always wonderful to see standards drop and disgusting cocksuckers defend it by insulting anyone who points it out.

>> No.2690785

>>2690783
It's an ALPHA for a FREE game. You don't get to criticize it.

>> No.2690789

>>2690783
as much as I agree with the new Unreal Tournament having as many questionable choices in design and aesthetic choices as Doom 4, I'd be glad to endorse you to stop stirring the shitpot, anon.

>> No.2690795 [DELETED] 

>>2690789
>please dont point it out, people might get mad

Fuck them.

>>2690785
I could shit on your couch and call it art, don't get upset cause I didn't charge you.

>> No.2690803

>>2690785
>It's an ALPHA for a FREE game. You don't get to criticize it.
I think he's a dumbass, too, but this has and never will be a defense against criticism.

>> No.2690815

>>2690783
Map was never that dark, I personally like the grass, the constant spinning was neat but it can make people nauseous
>>2690789
>I agree with the new Unreal Tournament having as many questionable choices in design and aesthetic choices as Doom 4
Explain
Also you worded that pretty poorly

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>>2690761

Of course I do , anon.

>> No.2690830

Is DoomRLA compatible with Smooth Doom?

>> No.2690831

>>2690830

No. Why in the world would you think they would be, anon?

>> No.2690832

>>2690785
That's a really horrible argument and a very poisonous mentality. Please stop that shit.

>>2690783
Ok first off there's no "Drop in detail", you're going on about nuances. Why does it matter if the floor is using rock or grass? If anything the grass is MORE detailed than leaving the whole level as one single texture wrapped through the whole map.

A spinning skybox is not only completely unnecessary, but can be distracting in the heat of battle when the human eyes are trained to follow any motion in the even there's a threat oncoming. Complaining about the lack of a gimmick IS sperging out, not "complaining about a lack of detail". If anything, YOU'RE lacking attention to detail by requesting a distracting gimmicky element.

And finally "the map is really bright". Uh... good? What the hell is wrong with that? A nice, bright map makes it more clear to see where everyone is? It makes it easier to line up shots and notice all the enemies and allies? The new lightwarp it uses FITS THE DAMN ART STYLE?

tl;dr you sperged out and won't admit it.

>> No.2690836

>>2690832
Also, forgot to mention, the grass makes it much easier to discern areas that can easily be walked on without slipping off the side of the map. I recall that happening all the time the first time I played that map.

>> No.2690838

>>2690830
With the monsters? I think so, yeah

>> No.2690841

>>2690831

Because Smooth Doom is slowly taking its place as the politically correct alternative of BD, hell, it even comes with its own share of fans asking if it's compatible with other mods or not.

>> No.2690847

>>2690841
>politically correct alternative
yeah, if there's one thing i can really get behind, it's smooth doom's stance on immigrants and health care

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>>2690841
Fucking finally someone says it.

>> No.2690850

>>2690847
>>2690841

#FeelTheSmoothBern

>> No.2690852

>>2690847
kek

>> No.2690856 [DELETED] 

>>2690815
>Also you worded that pretty poorly
typed that pretty quickly and didn't read it beforehand, sorry.

I was talking about how people seem to be nitpicking both remakes for having a somewhat different look and feel from the games they're based/inspired upon and saying both look shitty for the most part, based on little details. Most people don't seem to like the direction doom 4 is taking aesthetic-wise, and his post reminded me a lot of the many posts that go along those lines.

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>>2690841

dayum son

>> No.2690859

>>2690692
>>2690730

for those wondering. linguica did it again

https://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1422351

>> No.2690864

>>2690815
>Explain
his post just reminded me a lot of the many nitpickers and people complaining about doom 4 basically not being a HD remake of the original game. not much else to say about it, really.

>you worded that pretty poorly
tends to happen whenever I click the post button without reading what I just wrote beforehand because I'm retarded.

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>>2690847
that guy was such an idiot, but this made me laugh so hard I don't even care.

>> No.2690905

>>2690859
Linguica is like, some kind of fag genius.

I love that guy. No homo.

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>>2690569
>lighter
>uniform weight and mass
>doesn't warp or deform from moisture
>basically keeps itself

I like guns with classy wood, in particular weapons which aren't designed as modern combat weapons, where everything doesn't have to be 100% top of the line and all tactical, but for fighting purposes, plastic is better, aside from maybe clubbing an opponent with the stock, but unless it's a flimsy gun like the G36, you'll probably be fine anyway.

>> No.2690915

>>2690906
thanks /k/

>> No.2690926
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2690926

Thank you Terminus

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2690932

I just don't think plastic on a shotgun is a bad thing. The other guy is right, Doom is in the future, it's not a bad thing (even though wood fits Doom's aesthetic better)

>> No.2690934

>>2690926
hi, torrid

>> No.2690935

>>2690934
Hi

What's up

>> No.2690936

>>2690906
>moisture
>in hell

>> No.2690942

>>2690936
Nigga they obviously weren't expecting them to be used in Hell, they didn't account for that when designing the gun

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>>2690936
Well it's really more of a long-term issue, it's not gonna warp over night.
I think if you can make a practical gun about a pound lighter while still maintaining it's practical capabilities, it's worth it.

Also, pools of blood and sludge, that's moisture. And hell can be lots of things, I'm sure there are near jungle-like hells, dark and damp, with horrid giant insects and large muscled monsters with big teeth (I guess a halfway between a pinkie and a hellknight or something?), vicious things. Maybe monsters which are trees and vines?

Wood super-shotguns are olev though. Pic related is just a cheap-ass Baikal, but cut down the stock and barrel and do a clean job of it, give the wood some classy red varnish, and you have a very pleasant little blaster.

>> No.2690971

>>2690936
>this nigga don't even know about cocytus

>> No.2690996

>>2690952
>And hell can be lots of things
Yeah, not so fast amigo. We're obviously talking about the original biblical hell, which is a pit/lake of fire. Any fluid you find down there is gonna be lava or (on a good day) boiling blood. You can't really have jungles or trees or insects that are on fire.

>> No.2690998

>>2690996

>>2690971
>In Inferno, the first cantica of Dante's Divine Comedy, Cocytus is the ninth and lowest circle of The Underworld

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>>2690998
Don't know why you replied to my post. He called it "Inferno" for a reason, didn't he?

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>>2690996
>You can't really have jungles or trees or insects that are on fire.
but we can have endless pits or plain white voids, eerie, blood-red castles, or dark, stormy skies above an azure hue surrounding a hellish mountain with bodies and pieces of bodies scattered around. We also have green fire skies and endless bridges suspended in dusk.

nigger, Doom 64 literally has all this. Hell doesn't need to make sense if it doesn't fucking want to.

>> No.2691020

>>2691013
because Cocytus is a RIVER.

From Wikipedophile:
Cocytus is referred to as a frozen lake rather than a river, although it originates from the same source as the other infernal rivers, the tears of a statue called The Old Man of Crete which represents the sins of humanity.

If there's water, there's moisture. That's all we're trying to prove at this point.

>> No.2691023

>Arguing about a place that doesn't exist with a plethora of made-up stories with conflicting descriptions

Stupid

>> No.2691029

>>2691023
It IS stupid, because the concept itself is simple, straightforward, immutable, and universal: There's a place underground, full of fire, where bad people go when they die. And demons are there.

>> No.2691031

>>2691029
that's like five concepts though

>> No.2691035

>>2691029
>Universal
You're stupid, unbelievably stupid, nigh inconceivably stupid.

>> No.2691039

>>2691029
Then let's argue about a fictional place with more finite details: The Hell we visit in D/D2 is mostly hellified human-colonized areas. These areas are obviously, even partially, terraformed, because we DO see water in the Doom 'verse. This means that there is moisture at those areas, or at least on the roadmap for those areas, when the guns were shipped, and hence the appearance of wooden-stocked guns was a poor choice on part of the UAC, and polymer stocks were a better choice.

>> No.2691040

>>2691029
>immutable
>universal
You dumb motherfucker

>> No.2691045

>>2691039
Mmmm, not stupid at all.

Good work anon.

>> No.2691047

>>2691029
>underground
Not in Judeo-Christian values, unless you follow Dante.

>full of fire
The Greek Underworld has few mentions of Fire, more an absence of water.

>where bad people go when they die
Purgatory.

>demons are there
Usually the demons don't hang around in hell, they're too busy messing around up above. Even then the idea of demons has waned in recent years, due to the ACTUALLY-universal concept of "we're all humans, damn it."

Universal, your idea is not.

>> No.2691051

>>2691047
>Even then the idea of demons has waned in recent years, due to the ACTUALLY-universal concept of "we're all humans, damn it."
Not that anon but could you elaborate? I... don't see how demons are human.

>> No.2691053

I dunno. I always figured hell is an ever changing landscape. So it could have water, ice, or fire and brimstone everywhere.

It's just a shitty place in general that's out to make your day shit.

Which is why I feel like all doom mods can be canon in my autistic headcanon. Don't judge me.

>> No.2691056

>>2691051
I'm assuming he means that it isn't that demons tempt us, we just act shitty sometimes

>> No.2691057

>>2691051
Most classical stories of demons were temptresses and what have you trying to coax you into sin by taking the form of a human (or even keeping their demon look but being like "look how supernatural and sexy I am big boobs wanna fug") but as the world got modern and everyone now has things like social security numbers and cameras are everywhere and even science/medicine is like "hey there's a big ol' pump that shoots red stuff to your digits right here in your chest demons wouldn't have that" we realized that demons just don't and can't exist.

>> No.2691059

>>2691057
Oh, >>2691056 this too.

>> No.2691063

we need some /vr/ samsara tbh

>> No.2691067

>>2691039
>on part of the UAC
>implying that the SSG isn't actually the personal keepsake of one of the men stationed there

>> No.2691072

>>2691057

I'm not really seeing how social security numbers provide realizations about the nature of demons, but more power to you, mate.

>> No.2691085

>>2691072
Simple. A demon wants to exist and live to corrupt our modern world, he or she would have to provide due paperwork, and that requires doing all sorts of stuff.

Let's take, for example, paying taxes. Getting a job is probably a little much for an infiltration job for a demon, so they wouldn't pay taxes. Word goes into the IRS or whoever that Joe Shmitt isn't paying taxes, so in come the collectors. Maybe the demon uses his demon magic to coax the collectors into saying he doesn't owe anything... then the collectors go back and tell their boss, who fires them and sends new collectors. Maybe the demon just kills the collectors, but then their boss gets suspicious and sends new collectors. Maybe the demon just gets the heck out of dodge... then he gets plastered all over the news and internet about how this guy just randomly didn't pay any taxes and then disappeared one day.

There aren't a lot of things you can do without (i'm going to use this blanket term:) paperwork nowadays. You can't just demon magic everything, there could be onlookers.

>> No.2691087

>>2691072
it's not so much the social security numbers as it is the cameras that are the real clinchers

checkmate, demons
my cock is safe from succubi tonight

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>>2691085
>A demon wants to exist and live to corrupt our modern world, he or she would have to provide due paperwork

What the fuck are you going on about.

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>>2691091
Shit son I even provided a tl;dr for you at the end of it.

>> No.2691096

>>2691085
You need to get laid, dude

>> No.2691097

>>2691085
why not create money with magic

>> No.2691104

>>2691097
I'm sure someone would notice the economy tanking or the fact this dude doesn't have a job.

...Wait a minute holy shit banks are run by demons, that's how interest works.

Shit.

>> No.2691105

>>2691085
I have not seen this much neckbearding in a long, long time.
I half want to wedgie you and half want to shove you in a locker.

>> No.2691106

>>2691104
woah

>> No.2691113

Whats the best source port of doom for android?

>> No.2691115

>>2691091
>>2691097
>>2691105
you niggas need more /tg/

>> No.2691117

>>2691113
will you stop coming back here and asking the same question
if youre not getting an answer then that really says something huh

>> No.2691119

>>2690138
VOD's at
twitch tv/unrealtournament/v/16783753

The dev team got destroyed.
I have to leave now but I may post the exact timestamp later but:
Last 2 matches were HYPE as FUCK. Do yourself a favor and watch them, seriously. I'm not the kind of person that likes spectating and I had a negative bias towards CtF, but it was really fantastic

>> No.2691120

>>2691029
i think Hell is the absence of God
which is the absence of joy and love
essentially Hell is an extreme form of depression

>> No.2691121

>>2691115

Yeah, I have plenty of /tg/.
We have enough stories of That Guy.

>> No.2691123

>>2691121
i could use some more

>> No.2691128

100 posts overnight??

how come you nerds don't post this fast the rest of the week? what are you all doing instead?

>> No.2691132

>>2691128
working, nigga

>> No.2691134

>>2689170
>## /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY PROJECT ##

okay it's been over a month, i think it's time to ask for status reports, screenshots of maps in progress and such.

the deadline was i believe thanksgiving which is two months away, so the project is supposedly a third done already, i know it doesn't work like that in practice but i think by now people should have something to show.

>> No.2691135

>>2691085
>Simple. A demon wants to exist and live to corrupt our modern world, he or she would have to provide due paperwork, and that requires doing all sorts of stuff.
You really underestimate the capacity of a single person to influence another with only momentary contact. You just have to catch them on a bad day to get them to do something they'd regret if they ever thought about it. A proper demon wouldn't even need luck to make that happen, because he'd be able to stalk people invisibly and figure out what would be the best time to manifest a physical form and fuck someone up. And if you think I'm being inventive here, you should read a novel called The Monk... from 1796.

>> No.2691140

>>2691135
Whisper the right word in the right ear at the right time.
>Don't you think she looks tired?

>> No.2691142

>>2691117
Fuck man, First time asking this. Cheked the faq and the last thread if some had an answer, im sorry if theres another anon shitposting making that question.

>> No.2691147

>>2691123

Once I was DMing a Champions game, and there was this guy who designed his character after the concept of inertial and velocity control.
Every time someone fell from a high place, he threw a fit if he wasn't the one to catch them because catching people at high velocities would splat them, while he could slow them down first.
Ignoring the variety of other possibilities that could exist, or ignoring that he was trying to apply realistic physics/scenarios on an extremely narrow scope to something that wouldn't always apply.

That's kind of what this discussion reminds me of.
Sage for not-/vr/

>> No.2691148

>>2691142
i'm sorry to inform you that the faqs are all two years out of date! nobody updates them any more

>> No.2691151

>>2691148
That's okay. Doom is an old game. It's not like much can change in two years, right?

>> No.2691157

>>2691142
Well shit, now I feel like an asswipe.

If you're willing to pay for free software (You shouldn't) you can get D-Touch off the play store, which has a GZDoom port in it. Otherwise, you can download the prboom port from here:
https://code.google.com/p/prboom4android/

Not sure if there's any other good ports.

>> No.2691161

>>2691151
yes. but /vr/doom gains new frequently asked questions all the time. "is there a / what's the best source port for android" is another.

>> No.2691168

>>2691134
My status: Still not even started, because the theme isn't very fun/interesting.

>> No.2691172

>>2691157
Nah man, it's all good. You gave me some good answers and we both are tired of shitposters. I just didn't know at the time. Well, now I can murder some demons anywhere I go. And thats cool.

>> No.2691173

>>2691128

Dealing with depression and a lack of motivation that stems from that. Which leads to feeling worse because you're not getting shit done

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>>2691134
My status is shamefully early, I've been taking things very slowly.
I'm not a good mapper, so a lot of this has just been kind of trying to figure out where things are going.

From what I gather there's about four people working on maps, though, so while it's not enough for a "community pack" it's certainly been enough to get me going.
I've been thinking of releasing these as a standalone pack, sort of get myself out there and learn what's good and what's not.

>> No.2691198

I am still having issues with this wad I'm trying to make.

I've got a simple sword-stuck-in-ground sprite called FWOR0A.png. It's in the wad/SPRITE/ folder. The weapon itself replaces the chainsaw, and the spawn state is just a simple
> Spawn:
> FWOR A -1
> Stop
But no matter what I do, no matter what I change, it ends up with 'HolySword (X,Z) has no frames' in the console. I am completely befuddled.

>> No.2691253

>>2691198
Shouldn't it be FWORA0, not FWOR0A?

>> No.2691260

>>2691253
Wait, yeah, it should.

That's what it IS, I just mistyped it.

Figured out the problem, though. I was running directly out of a folder instead of a zip file. When I zipped it up, that's when it started to work.

>> No.2691279

>>2691260
Ah, glad you got it working in any case.

>> No.2691307

Whats a good weapon mod? I've played both MSX and Accessories to Murder and I'm looking for something more.

For the record, I loved MSX and A2M was great except for no easy way to kill cyberdemons and annoying tanks.

>> No.2691317
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Is there a Doom mod that features Turok 2-style blood and gore? I mean streams and blobs that fly out of enemies and splash on the ground, none of the "spiky ball swarms", mist sprites and decal spam that I see all over the place.

>> No.2691340
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does anybody running gzdoom on linux have this problem? I disabled texture filtering but it still stays on. Also, it doesn't have support for my native resolution 1280x1024 but supports a bunch of weird ones?

>> No.2691347

>>2691317
there was a ketchup mod that had streams of the vanilla blood sprites

>> No.2691350

anyone wanna play some ctf or dm?

>> No.2691351

>>2691307

Depends entirely on what you're looking for in a weapon mod.
Might try Weapons of Saturn next, or X-Weapon.

>> No.2691352

>>2691340
> texture filtering but it still stays on
Nope. Driver setting maybe? If you aren't using proprietary NVIDIA or AMD Catalyst, use driconf.

>1280x1024 but supports a bunch of weird ones
Build it from source. Modify src/posix/sdlglvideo.cpp and add in the resolutions you need.

>> No.2691353

>>2691307
DemonSteele has weapons
https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

Run n Gun 2
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/combos/runngun2

there was one that was just model rips from counter strike mods that was titled an acronym, had a lever action rifle and wolverine claws. the lowpoly stuff was fine since it was all consistent.

>> No.2691356

>>2691353

It was shooting monsters with guns.

>> No.2691361

>>2691353

Also he asked for a GOOD weapon mod. that run n gun is fucking miserable.

>> No.2691362

>>2691361
it's charming

>> No.2691425

>>2691317
have you tried manualy editing the cfg file?

not gzdoom, but skulltag(and later zandronum) were perfect at my 5:4 1280x1024

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Yesterday, birthday, what to put if not the unaging gem that shares my year, thus I gave an idea and my parents conceived this.

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>>2691441
2/2

>> No.2691453

>>2691441
>>2691447
that rules, your parents are cool

>> No.2691462

anyone encountered this bug with demonsteele?

https://madokami.com/rfmgcp.webm

using a week old gzdoom build

>> No.2691471

>>2691462
cool dubstep man. the bass is fuckin raaawwwww

>> No.2691473

>>2691462
thank you for reminding me why I shouldn't click on ambiguous links after midnight when it's quiet and I have my earphones on

>> No.2691474

>>2691347
I just tried out "Ketchup Test 4", single bullets from the pistol explode blood everywhere and monsters pop like balloons and make a fucking mess all over ceilings and walls, there's no options to lower the amount of gore from what I've found, it's way too overkill and unsatisfying, figures when I see the creator's SgtMark... It wasn't what I was looking for but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

>> No.2691493

>>2691471
>>2691473
I really didn't mean to, it isn't a joke. While I play the sound goes bonkers like that on some levels. I'm using openAL (since fmodex doesn't work for me) as the sound backend and timidity as the midi device.

>> No.2691501

>>2689563
>those fingeers in the mouth
lewd

>> No.2691541

>>2690202
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044&start=2385#p860288
Like this guy? Self-entitlement is just ugly to see in people. Ugh.

Anyway, all I need to do now is finish up a few more things, and get a sprite from Shivers when he wakes up, should be all done in about 9 hours or so, I think.

>> No.2691557

>>2691541
cool, thanks for the ETA

do you know how up-to-date a zdoom it will need? my build is nearly a year old since i have trouble with SDL2. in other words, what's the newest git feature/ACS call you're using?

>> No.2691558

>>2689723
Here's a cool trick to try with PSX Doom:
> Play on Ultraviolence
> play Doom 2 map "suburbs"
> enable Godmode
> run around the outskirts of the map and aggro tons of beasties
> kite them all to the centre of the map and aggro the rest
> massive infighting ensues
> PS1 will often crash as this point due to not being able to handle the ruckus
> only time I've ever geen able to rek my ps1

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>>2691317 Here
I found a mod called "NashGore" That's almost exactly what I wanted! After a bit of editing to the .wad file (making blood not spurt upwards like a fountain, removing gibs, etc.) I got it behaving similar to Turok 2. It's simple, unobtrusive and I like it.

>> No.2691570

>>2691557
Probably a pretty recent one, sorry. I didn't know that people had issues like that with ZDoom, thought it was mostly the OpenGL 4.0 stuff with GZDoom.
I don't know the specifics, but it does indeed use some very recent stuff like INVENTORY.TRANSFER, sorry man.

>> No.2691574

>>2691570
don't worry about it. i seem to be the only person who doesn't get on with SDL2 in the whole community, so i don't make a fuss about it.

(and it's not like SDL2 doesn't run at all, it's just really slow for some reason - probably my ancient hardware. it's not like i won't be able to run your mod at all)

>> No.2691594

I'm going to send a SWAT team to Kegan's house if he drops the ball and skips these monsters that would look great for GMOTA

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=860202#p860202

>> No.2691604

>>2691039
On Phobos and Deimos, there was the shotgun, which was probably just bought and shipped there to be a weapon for security forces, they probably didn't expect any kind of heavy combat or battlefield usage for them.

The Supershotgun was on earth.

>>2691085
>then he gets plastered all over the news and internet about how this guy just randomly didn't pay any taxes and then disappeared one day.

You know it's absolutely possible to go underground or to avoid authorities, right?
I mean, it'll limit your options for some things, but if the authorities have no records of who you are, they don't know about you. (Also I hardly think the news give a shit about some tax evader going into hiding.)

The state tries to keep things in check but they fuck up all the time, it's not the least bit inconceivable to avoid them provided you know what you're doing, organized crime does it on a daily basis.
Yes, they caught Capone on tax charges, but say that they didn't know who Capone was or where he is? They're shit outta luck then

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>>2691087
>my cock is safe from succubi tonight
You sure?

>> No.2691636

>>2691307
Crossfire is pretty rad. It's like what might've happened if MSX took cues from CoD instead of Halo. Looks fucking incredible if you play it with one of the recent ZDoom devbuilds with HUD weapon interpolation.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=36667

>> No.2691645

>>2691594

Man I don't even have a place to use those sprites, I have a Caco replacement already.

Besides I'm leaning away from horror designs in my monsters, none of the replacements I've used are really spooky, and some are disarmingly cute.

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>>2691645

OH SHIT. WAIT NO.

THE SKELLY WITH THE SWORD N SHIELD? SHIT MAN. I LOVE THOSE

My bad, Zdoom sucks dick at linking to posts and images properly.

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>>2691613
w- what's going on in this thread?

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>>2691147
>Every time someone fell from a high place, he threw a fit if he wasn't the one to catch them because catching people at high velocities would splat them, while he could slow them down first.
Was he legit autistic?

>> No.2691676

>>2691604
>if the authorities have no records of who you are, they don't know about you.

There's not a lot of people who don't have drivers licenses, birth certificates, passports, utility bills, leases, mortgages, jobs, social insurance numbers, social networks, or cell phones.

I mean, if you don't have any of that, sure, you can probably lay low for a bit.

>> No.2691684

>>2691676
You have a very America-centric mindset.

>> No.2691687

>>2691462
>>2691493
OpenAL and stereo sounds don't get along.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=48827

It's stupid.

>> No.2691702

>>2691687
welp, no demonsteele for me. fmod sadly crashes my system.

>> No.2691707

>>2691702
I meant crashes gzdoom.

>> No.2691737

>>2691676
>There's not a lot of people who don't have drivers licenses
If you don't call attention to yourself, they'll never check for it.

>birth certificates, passports,
Doesn't matter if you're not going through legal channels

>utility bills, leases, mortgages, jobs, social insurance numbers, social networks, or cell phones.
None of which you need as a demon.

>> No.2691742

>>2691702
>>2691707
Have you tried Zandronum?

>> No.2691753

>>2691737
You do need that unless we're just letting this demon's entire raison d'etre for killing and maiming people, in which case they'll probably be quickly found and killed and invalidates the whole premise of this debate in the first place.

>> No.2691770
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>> No.2691775

>>2691770
nice, what's the wad?

>> No.2691815
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>> No.2691832

>>2691815

why are the filing cabinets 20 feet tall

>> No.2691843

>>2691832
It's where the demons all file their taxes. Obv.

>> No.2691854

>>2691570
>>2691574 (me)

well, i just tried rebuilding zdoom/master. it seems a lot has changed in a year. this is definitely usable. most of the problems i observed with sdl2 are either gone or at least much less noticable than before.

so many thanks for your concern yholl but i think i'm good to go :D

>> No.2691927
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>>2689170
why does /doomg/ love cacodemons so much

>> No.2691940

>>2691927
if you're referring to OP pictures they just seem to get the best / most humorous fan art

if you're talking generally i'd say these threads' most loved monster is the revenant

>> No.2692024
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>mfw I finally started to play Heretic for real
Why I waited so long? It's so good to discover a new Doom Like.

>> No.2692064
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2692064

>>2691770
I must know what this is.

>>2691927
They have a very lovable grin.

>> No.2692078

What are some wads that let me be a holy crusader of god that slays heretics?

>> No.2692092

>>2692078
gmota, kind of

>> No.2692096

>>2691568
nice

>> No.2692102

>>2692078
WW-Nazis

>> No.2692125
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>>2692102

>> No.2692130

>>2691541
>that's my post
Oh man, I had meant to put 'today' on the end of that sentence, but by the time I noticed it it was too late. But still though 'self-entitlement'? Could you explain how that word applies?

>> No.2692152

>>2692130
you smugly disparaged him because he didn't keep his self-imposed deadline for an unpaid volunteer project.

this makes you look like an asshole.

i suggest you reflect on your actions and think about what you should have done.

>> No.2692163

>>2692152
anon knows what they should have done

put 'today' on the end of that sentence

>> No.2692183

>>2691927
Cacodemons can be cute
>>2691447

>> No.2692184

>>2689170
Maybe this will be a silly question, but i haven't played doom for a year.
Is Zandronum still the most played multiplayer port for doom?

>> No.2692187

>>2692184
Yeah, and it's been updated a bit to have some more of GZDoom's features.

I mean it's still outdated in comparison but it's better than a year ago.

>> No.2692235
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20 minutes into chillax and chill and she gives you this look

>> No.2692250

>[09-18] The /newstuff Chronicles #482
>https://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4489
Hey, they finally reviewed my level after 3 months, check it out guys, its called Crossfired

>> No.2692264

>>2692152
>smugly
I don't even get how that was smug though? I meant it more in a 'you tried' kind of way. I knew that setting a deadline was going to be his downfall, like it always is with everyone with everything.

>> No.2692276

>>2692250
why did you put "my first map" in the archive maintainer field?

>> No.2692287

>>2692250
It was okay. Many parts of the map look flat and some textures are aligned inappropriately but I think with a little more work it could be a real treat.

>> No.2692301

>>2692250
why does it need zdoom?

>> No.2692307

>>2692301

I assume because that's what he made it for.

>> No.2692315

>>2692264
"What a shame you didn't meet your deadline, just like I knew you wouldn't"

Seriously, I was pissed.

>> No.2692331

>>2692315
And I knew you wouldn't because people who set them for themselves 90% of the time NEVER do it. All I can do is say sorry but it's up to you to take it.

>> No.2692340

>>2692331
there you go smugly talking down to people again. you're a condescending little prick and you're not even self-aware enough to see it

>> No.2692342

>>2692315
I don't care about deadlines I just love DRLA a lot

>> No.2692352

>>2690905
So is Linguica actually a faggot? Or does his avatar on Doomworld reference something other than he likes a bit of cock and bum fun? (I'm asking for a friend. And that friend may or may not be Fraggle. ;) )

>> No.2692356

>>2692340
I don't give a fucking shit at this point, you can either finish what you started or quit now, I'm tired of tiptoeing around.

>> No.2692358

>>2692352
His name is Linguica, a portuguese sausage, a reference to penis. Didn't you get it yet?

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>>2692356
Not him but holy shit calm down dude.

>> No.2692371

>>2692365
>Not him

Yeah sure

>> No.2692406

>>2692356
You're a dumbass.

>> No.2692413
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>scythe 2 map 23
I wasn't ready

>> No.2692419

Has anyone been able to get Marathon 1 running under Aleph One? I absolutely cannot figure it out.

I have both Marathon and Aleph One installed, I run Aleph One, it asks for the scenario to run, I navigate it to the folder with Marathon.exe (you can't select files directly, just the folder), click, jack shit.

I tried running Marathon.exe directly and it runs for a second or two before quitting. No error message or anything, it just stops.

>> No.2692437

>>2692406
And you're retarded but this is Doom General and not /v/ but who can tell the difference these days

>> No.2692442

>>2692437
>but who can tell the difference these days

I can. And I can tell this is far from being an argument in the style of /v/.

I'm not saying there have not been /v/-tier arguments here, just that this is far from being something that reminds you from /v/

>> No.2692448

>>2692437
I think it's about time to call it a night, friend. Who knows, maybe DRLA 1.0 will release while you sleep and it'll be like Christmas in September. Angsty shitposting and lashing out at anonymous strangers doesn't help anyone.

>> No.2692451

>>2692448
he lives in ohio he can't help it

>> No.2692459

>>2692448
Not even that guy but creators who don't hit deadlines deserve to be treated like shit. Standards exist for a reason.

>> No.2692470

>>2692459
>but creators who don't hit deadlines deserve to be treated like shit.

In a world where accidents never happen, bugs never appear, and everything works as it should, sure.
That would be a magical world to live in.

>> No.2692471

>>2692442
>UR DUBM
>UR TERDRD
Sounds like /v/ to me.

>>2692448
>6:30 pm
Nah I'm good. Also >>2692451 is pretty much right, I've got nothing else to do. Boredom is pretty much how Ohio motivates itself anyways. Have you seen that death sentence replacement that's just a robot that tears peoples heads off? That's a proud moment in Ohio history right there.

>>2692459
The thing is I wasn't even being all shitty at Yholl, I just said that it's to be expected that someone who sets their own deadline won't meet it, it's Yholl who was a being a bitch nigga.

>> No.2692474

>>2692471

>Sounds like /v/ to me.
>it's Yholl who was a being a bitch nigga.

No John, you're the demons.

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>>2692474
I never said I wasn't.

>> No.2692486

>>2692470
>In a world where bitch, whine, and moan

Stop making up excuses you lazy asshole.

>> No.2692487

>that cringy whiny "I'm leaving forever" post on tumblr
Heh, I guess we know why a certain someone has been absent as of late now

>> No.2692489

>>2692471
Really, anon, I'm not saying it for my health. Get out of here. You're out of your element, you're angry, and by continuing to post you only make things worse for yourself and for everyone else. You don't have to sleep, that was a joke. Go play some Doom. Roll something on /idgames and be free. I've been angry on the internet before too, I know what it's like. You feel like you have to reply to everyone. Don't reply to this post. Go play Doom instead. It's more satisfying.

>> No.2692490

>>2692487

Nah, that's a different dude. nota bene, he actually nuked his tumblr.

>> No.2692491

>>2692486

Hey, if you're gonna get mad at anything with hardly any rational justification, why do you even need me?

>> No.2692492
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>>2692487
Oh shit who?

>>2692489
nah i'm stayin

>> No.2692506

>>2692491
Because your a fucking cunt actually defending a lazy person for not releasing on time. I hate people who take too long to make shit.

You know how long I've been waiting for HDoom to be done, and how every time I insult the lazy sack of shit making it, I get treated like I'm Mr. Bad Guy or something?

I don't want to hear excuses about your personal life, I WANT MY FUCKING WAD.

>> No.2692510
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>>2692506
Do you need someone to vacuum the sand from your /v/agina holy shit

>> No.2692514

>that feel when doom_txt will skip >>2690841 on purpose, but it's going to post >>2692506 immediately

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>>2692506

>> No.2692523
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>>2692506
>I WANT MY FUCKING WAD
But anon, you're not entitled to his wad, you rapist.

>> No.2692526
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2692526

well shit >>2690202, you got your spergfit. You happy?

>> No.2692527

Boy I'm glad this guy isn't wanting GMOTA this badly. If he knew how long it's been since I last updated it. He'd probably blow a fuse

>> No.2692534

>>2692527
I got bored of GMOTA pretty quickly.

>> No.2692537

>>2692527
The only thing I want to update GMOTA for it to be perfection

Is for the harpoon to stick monsters into the wall and make them stick there as a decal.

>> No.2692541

>>2692534

Really? Any reason why? I mean it's definitely not for everyone, but was there a particular reason you got bored of it?

I know it doesn't help that it's unfinished

>> No.2692547

>>2692537

Which harpoon? You mean the grapple you can throw out with zoom?

>> No.2692549

>>2692547
No, I meant the lance, sorry.

>> No.2692550 [SPOILER] 
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>>2692526
Yes.

>> No.2692559

>>2692541
It's boring.

>> No.2692567

>>2692419
You've tried just using the all-in-one download, right? https://alephone.lhowon.org/games/marathon.html

I came across the Marathon automatically closing bug, it was fixed by deleting the files and unzipping them again (your saves and prefs won't be affected).

I think it had to do with having Steam, Dxtory, and OBS try to hook into it at the same time, after that it started doing that. Close down any programs like that, and see if it runs. Dxtory 1.0.133 and 1.0.132 both stopped it from starting properly until I tried the delete files fix above.

>> No.2692569

>>2692541
The weapons just don't look or sound powerful, and there isn't much weapon variety

>> No.2692570

>>2692527

I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually care about DRLA, he's just taking advantage of how mods don't follow /doom/ anymore.

>> No.2692580

>>2692570
I doubt mods would give a scrap about meaningless drama.

There are bigger things to worry about in the doom community and delayed mods isn't one of them, this is just like complaining about Brutal doom, by the end of the day its all >opinions.

>> No.2692585

>>2692569
oh and needs more combos

>> No.2692587

>>2692419
Personally I wouldn't bother. The game looks like shit and the story is a third rate knockoff of System Shock 1.

Think of this as a blessing in disguise.

>> No.2692590

>>2692587
Stop posting, Orangestar.

>> No.2692594

>>2692492
>Oh shit who?
name begins with s, same person that is shitting up this thread currently
also looks like he just deleted his entire tumblr, mucho kekaiku

>> No.2692616
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Can we just agree that literally anyone who still makes content for this game is a clingy attention-whoring bitch who has to have some level or semblance of autism to want to continue contributing to 21 year old game who's community is filled with nothing but bitching purist grandpas who are too afraid to get off their rocking-chair from 1993 to see what else the community has to offer, and then yell at the children who come running on their lawn with a copy of GZDoom and Mouselook.
Not to mention how many fucking borderline cancerous children have invaded who praise Brutal Doom likes it's the fucking Messiah and anyone else who plays Doom without any sort of gameplay mod is absolutely fucking insane.
There's no happy middle ground.
This fandom has drilled itself into hell.
A hell full of endless arguments, bitching, attention whoring, and mediocre content.
Kind of ironic when you think about it.
If anything, I'd think the people who play a game about killing demons and escaping hell would know how to avoid it.

>> No.2692618

>>2692616
>>2692616
God damn, before anyone else does it, here's your reply.

Anyone else who replies is fucking retarded.

>> No.2692621

>>2692616
>bitch about grandpas not accepting what community of today has to offer in the first paragraph
>bitch about brewtawl dewm in the second
Cool story bro.

>> No.2692623

>>2692590
It's officially come to a point that people confuse other people with opinions I just so happen to have with me!

Yay, I'm popular!

>>2692616
>People are playing a video game exactly how they want to, and if they can't find a way to they'll make it! Isn't that terrible?

>> No.2692628

>>2692623


this was me
>>2692506


It's always been this way on fagchan. Anyone who shares opinions is a samefag, anyone who gets mad no matter how justified gets called a sperg. I swear this place is full of children anymore.

I wish /v/ would stop leaking into /vr/ so much.

>> No.2692631

>>2692506
Then try to make one, you whiny cunt.

>> No.2692634

>>2692628
Uh, ok then, I don't agree with any of the other opinons you've said in this thread, and personally think your opinion you've just said is rather hypocritical, but that's just what I think.

Just calm down, dude.

>> No.2692642
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>>2692590
It does though.

Look at this shit. Really amateurish texturing with fake depth mapping (it isn't convincing at all) and for some reason the weapon sprite is a different resolution and blurry as all hell. There's no excuse for this.

>> No.2692643

>>2692590
He's right, regardless of who he is. Between having Doom for better gameplay and SS1 for the same story told better (and both completely destroy it in every other regard), there's little reason to bother with Marathon. The game is ugly. The texture resolution and detail is nice but the maps use them so poorly that it doesn't matter, and the HUD sprites are nothing to write home about. Sounds are low quality and weak. The level design ranges from nothing special to completely awful, and 80% of the enemies you fight are just recolors of each other with different stats. Music is inoffensive, but also unmemorable. It's notable because it's all Macfriends had and it isn't as bad as, say, Capstone's shitfests, but there's not much point in wasting your time with it when you could be playing something better.

>> No.2692645

>>2692634
Why should I calm down? Why is it such a meme to freak out when someone rightfully gets mad about falling standards?

>>2692631
Go place a turd between two buns. Your not a chef, you dont get to decide if its shit or not.

>> No.2692646

>>2692618
Why are you calling yourself such things? You're the one who enabled him after all.

>> No.2692653

So what pwads should I play as I've never actually fully completed one

>> No.2692658

>>2692642
Ok, how the fuck did you get Marathon working?

>> No.2692659

>>2692653
There are hundreds.

>> No.2692665

>>2692567
I don't even know what those programs are, I downloaded from that link and it still won't run. It just quits instantly.

>> No.2692669

>75% of this thread
janitor confirmed dead

>> No.2692670

>>2692659
I know that. I'm asking which ones would /vr/ recommend, for some reason the "So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom" image loads extremely slowly for me

>> No.2692672
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>>2692642
>>2692643
Well no shit, you're playing with hi-res textures and filters.

That looks fucking hideous in any game, you only have yourself to blame.

>> No.2692673

>>2692653
Hell Revealed is a good starting point. Probably every noteworthy wad made since has been influenced by it in some way, and it's a good increase in difficulty over the stock maps without being ridiculous.

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>>2692672
Oh hey 4ch likes shrinking images now? Well whatever.

>> No.2692684
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2692684

Hope this is the right place to ask: Is Strife worth getting on Steam? Heard it's a good remaster but I haven't heard anything about the game itself. Is it any good?

>> No.2692686

>>2692672
Disabling filters doesn't fix the shoddy usage and alignment of the textures, nor does it make the HUD sprites any less mediocre.

>> No.2692694

>>2692684
It's unique and I like it, but I'm Orangestar so take that with the same grain of salt that >>2692590 takes my suggestions with.

If you ever played E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy, it's kind of like that game.

>> No.2692695

>>2692631

>Then try to make one

Lol. The last time that happened, he did absolutely nothing. There's evidence in the archives of him asking for suggestions for a map, and nothing fucking happened.

I have no idea how people guessed it was Sarais who was pushing for the DRLA stuff, but my educated guess leads me to believe they let him back in the IRC channel after being blown the fuck out and banned for acting like an idiot in a Zandronum server. How and why, that's none of my business, but it seems like it.

>>2692684
>Is Strife worth getting on Steam? Heard it's a good remaster but I haven't heard anything about the game itself. Is it any good?

Yes to both questions. It took a while to have a legal and quick way to acquire the game, and the effort put by Kaiser for its custom engine it's worth the shot.

>> No.2692698

>>2692665
GUYS PLEASE, I REALLY WANT TO RUN A MARATHON

>> No.2692701
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>>2692669
>The last time we ever saw (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) on /vr/ was on some idiot admitting to being underage

>> No.2692705

>>2692686
>Disabling filters doesn't fix the shoddy usage and alignment of the textures
Pay close attention to >>2692683
You see how fucking ugly everything looks and the horrible alignment in Doom maps sticks out like a sore thumb?
Yeah.
Yes, filters and hi-res textures do make a huge difference.

>>2692695
>I have no idea how people guessed it was Sarais who was pushing for the DRLA stuff, but my educated guess leads me to believe they let him back in the IRC channel

No, it's because he's been posting incessantly in the DoomRLA thread and being a dumbass.

>> No.2692712

>>2692705
>No, it's because he's been posting incessantly in the DoomRLA thread and being a dumbass.

Go figure. I don't follow any Doom forums on the internet besides /vr/ so I didn't knew.

Thanks for the explanation.

>> No.2692719

>>2692698

I don't understand the problem so I just uploaded my Marathon build for you.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jho3dw3hoyz0fix/Marathon%20%28A1%29.rar?dl=0

Hopefully it's just a matter of unrar and play, once the Dropbox upload finishes.

>> No.2692729

>>2692653
Scythe 1 + 2
Plutonia 2
Back To Saturn X
Epic 2

>> No.2692734

>>2692701
It's not that mods don't ban dinks, it's just that they typically do it silently these days, just delete their posts and ban them.

Unless it's a particularly egregious case, most mods won't opt to make public examples.

>> No.2692739

>>2692669

Cacowards season is going to be fun, let me tell you that.

>> No.2692740

>>2692684
Yes.

>> No.2692749

>>2692739
Hideous Destructor for best gameplay mod or riot

>> No.2692754
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>>2692642
You didn't turn off the high res texture pack and XBLA HUD in the Plugins section. I'd go do that, in addition to turning off texture filtering. That's pretty much the only reason for the resolution differences.

Secondly, 2 and Infinity improve on it in pretty much every aspect. 1 is indeed pretty rough, but it had some cool ideas for the time if one looks past the low budget assets.

>>2692665
>>2692698
I don't know what to tell you, just unzip what's in there and click Marathon.exe to play. It should be that simple. If not, try closing any programs like Dxtory/Fraps, restart your system, or delete the files and try fresh. You're on Windows, aren't you?

>> No.2692763

>>2692749

I don't think Hideous Destructor is eligible, anon.

>> No.2692764

>>2692754
What's up with Aleph's mouselook? It feels so odd no matter how many times I change it

>> No.2692774

>>2692749
You know, what are the actual possibilities for that award this year anyway? I can't think of any new releases, it's been a bit of a dry year for gameplay mods. I guess DRLA, although it already got a mention with DRPG in last year's runner-ups. Reelism already got one, right?

>> No.2692775

>>2692569

I thought most of the weapons feel pretty powerful thus far. The crash hammer in particular. I can technically address the lack of weapon variety when I get off my dead ass and add Kustam.

I'm not sure where I can put more combos though. Kustam certainly ain't gonna have any.

Sorry though

>> No.2692776

>>2692764
While not noticable at the resolutions of the time, the number of possible angles is apparently limited by the game engine. When you turn, it simply applies forces to turn your player's entity around. I'd answer more questions, but I gotta go.

>> No.2692778

>>2692764

Marathon was the first game with mouselook and the A1 devs are autistic about keeping shit like that "authentic."

>> No.2692780

>>2692764
part of it is the fact that the vertical mouselook range is smaller than the horizontal range, but the engine acts like they're both ranges of equivalent size. (I.E. when your sensitivity is 5 for both, it moves 5% of the horizontal, which is a significantly larger number than 5% of the vertical.

>> No.2692783

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf-xxGkkWPs

>> No.2692784

>>2692778
>Marathon was the first game with mouse look
And...?

>> No.2692785

>>2692784
>and the A1 devs are autistic about keeping shit like that "authentic."
You sure are bad at reading

>> No.2692787

>>2692549

that WOULD be cool. But it kinda goes against the nature of the subweapons and where they originate from.

Tell you what though. If I ever make another weapon that shoots big arrows or harpoons or anything like that. I'll look into adding that feature

>> No.2692790

>>2692784

Meaning there were peculiarities about it that we don't see today, precisely because people were learning from earlier mistakes.

Like how the first cars didn't have seat belts, but now all of them do.

>> No.2692793

>>2692787
I mean, the way I figure, you'd just need to make a custom scorch mark that looks like a monster pinned by the chest, then something something ACS trickery, fire an invisible projectile.

>> No.2692796

>>2692774
Either Trailblazer or Gucaster gonna take it

>> No.2692797

>>2692749
>or riot

OH NO
THE 25 PEOPLES ARE VANDALIZING THE STREETS
SPARE THE WOMAN AND CHILDREN

>> No.2692801

>>2692778
>Marathon was the first game with mouse look
son i don't believe that for a second, can you verify your claims for the rest of the class

>> No.2692802

>>2692774
>>2692796

Yeah, I can only think of Trailblazer or Guncaster and this is from someone who doesn't like either.
There hasn't been a lot of other really notable releases.

>> No.2692806

>>2692774
>Reelism already got one, right?

yes, but it's not a gameplay mod, it's its own thing with maps and everything. the only zdoom mod that I can think of that could be considered as the BIG baddie of this year is Smooth Doom

I don't think there would be any objections if they were to omit the award this year

>>2692797

kek

>> No.2692808

>>2692793

Wouldn't that look weird if the monster is pinned completely flat against the wall? And what about when you shoot airborne monsters? Or shoot monsters from above?

That'd be awful lot of fuckery

>> No.2692815

>>2692806
>>2692802
>>2692796
>>2692774
This sounds like a challenge.
I wonder if I can make an interesting, fun, and new gameplay mod within three months.

>> No.2692832

>>2692801
Descent apparently hit on the same exact day as Marathon, so it's a tie. But Descent's mouselook isn't shit, or at least not nearly as shit as Marathon's. It's just a tad slow, not completely unusable.

>> No.2692838

>>2692832
The only reason Descent has weird mouselook is because you're literally turning a ship.

>> No.2692853

>>2692838
I would absolutely love a headtracking oculus version of descent or something. Gives you a cockpit with mostly-rear-view mirrors and everything.

>> No.2692857

>>2692838
Yeah, it's fine. The game is best enjoyed with a joystick anyway.

>> No.2692863

>>2692838
Now there's a retro game worth talking about and isn't a rip off.

>> No.2692864
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2692864

>Try playing Unreal Tournament 4
>Join a community server
>Terrible internet lag, practically teleporting around the map at some points
Well, might just be the host, let me try an official server
>Join an official
>Having the exact same issue
>Look at scoreboard
>My Ping is only 56
What the fuck is going on

>> No.2692872

>>2692864
they actually updated ut4 to be more like dbz

>> No.2692880

>>2692863
>and isn't a rip off.
>he thinks Descent isn't a ripoff of Wolfenstein 3D

>> No.2692884
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2692884

>>2692872

>> No.2692887

>>2692880
You can't fly in Wolf.

Marathon didn't bring anything to the table that wasn't already in Doom or System Shock.

>> No.2692892

>>2692887

We get it, you really hate Marathon, you can stop having knee-jerk reactions to jokes now.

>> No.2692895

>>2692887
wow, you actually took me seriously

>> No.2692897
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2692897

>>2692887
b-b-but rocketjumping!!

oh wait

>> No.2692903
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2692903

>>2692887
>Being so blinded by your hate for Marathon that you take an obvious joke seriously

>> No.2692904

>>2692892
>>2692895
orangestar is kind of autistic and doesnt know your joking
just try to ignore him when he makes an ass of himself

>> No.2692905

>>2692897
but there is no jumping involved so ?

>> No.2692908

>>2692905
There's no jumping in Marathon either. In both cases you're just using an explosion to launch yourself somewhere your feet alone can't take you.

>> No.2692909

>>2692628
Nigga, you are basically eating your own words and you are the ONLY PERSON IN THIS THREAD making a big deal about meaningless stuff.

>> No.2692916

>>2692908
>In both cases you're just using an explosion to launch yourself somewhere your feet alone can't take you.
Yeah, except one is extremely vertical and the other is maybe knee-length and mostly horizontal.

>> No.2692924

>>2692916
And they have the same end result, regardless of the verticality. If you want to be anal about verticality, consider the popular speedrunning trick on Map07 where you hit one of the mancubi with a rocket so you can get onto the middle platform without having to kill everything. You can't get up there by foot, but you can with a rocket. Is that not rocketjumping?

>> No.2692932

>>2692924

If you really want to pick nits to the point where you're saying "all thrusts with rockets = rocketjumping", then yes, that would count as rocketjumping. It also came out after Marathon, so...
Personally, though, I would say that is less rocketjumping and more gaining the ability to lift your leg above your fucking waist.

>> No.2692935
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2692935

>>2692904
It happened again! Nice!

>> No.2692936
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2692936

>>2692887

>> No.2692938

Remember:

Report and ignore

>> No.2692940

Well looks like we know now who was responsible for >>2692616 at least ;)

>> No.2692943

It's just me,or this thread got as shittier as when BDv20 was released?

>> No.2692946

>>2692943
Your English is kind of bad, to the point that I have no idea what you're actually saying here.

>> No.2692948

>>2692815

To try and steer this topic off of "your favorite retro fps is stupid because mine is better", I'd take that challenge.
I've had two in mind that I've been wanting to work on:

1: Gameplay mods done 1999 style, a tongue-in-cheek throwback trying to emulate the old old early Decorate/late Dehacked style of modding.
Lots of gamerips for sprites (did somebody say SHADOW WARRIOR UZI?), Quake/Quake 2/Half Life sound effects, inventory items in the HUD, gun smoke coming directly from the player rather than the gun, and functions mostly identical to the original vanilla weapons.

2: Another take on the "harder monsters" mods out there, but without randomization, without extra fancy items, without any massive gameplay overhauls--trying to create a "dark and gritty" atmosphere like Satanic or Doom 64 with killer enemies and straightforward weapons.

>> No.2692950

>>2692948
>Another take on the "harder monsters" mods out there
I'm probably alone in this but I'd kind of like to see more mods that individualize the monsters beyond what the vanilla game enabled. Like how in MSX and A2M, they'll be randomly replaced at spawn with several possible variants; specifically, MSX does this to specters, and A2M does this to imps.

>> No.2692954

>>2692950
You're alone because of the randomization factor. That always leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.

>> No.2692986

man, I kind of want to reinstall Marathon Infinity in Basilisk II so I can make maps for it
but I'm a lazy fuck and no one would play them if I made any

>>2691927
it's pretty much all face, so it's expressive as fuck and pretty cute, even in game

>> No.2692995
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2692995

>>2692938
remember: heroes get killed.

>> No.2693005

>>2691927

The sad thing is that caco's post quality is better than the average posting quality going on right now

>> No.2693008

>>2692986
>it's pretty much all face, so it's expressive as fuck and pretty cute, even in game
I just had a wild thought, that you could mod Doom to be pretty much Animal Crossing except full of demons instead of animals, and there'd be cacos and imps and stuff going about their business and you could talk to them and give them presents

>> No.2693017

>>2693008
sounds like youve never made a wad
how would you do any of that

>> No.2693030
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2693030

Wasn't there a mod somewhere that turned doom's centered weapons into right side offsets like Duke 3d had? Maybe it's the beer in me thinking that...

>> No.2693036

>>2693017
With local servers and Z&dro's login capabilities.

>> No.2693037

>>2693030
A few mods have done that.

Personally I think it looks worse. It seems more natural to hold your gun right in front of your body than off to the side.

>> No.2693041

>>2693008
that sounds legitimately cute.

>> No.2693048
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2693048

>>2693037
no

>> No.2693061

>>2692948
I'd like the second- as long as it is NOT, say, 'monsters are all basically the same but do more damage/attack faster and have more health'.

>>2692950
I used to do this with my old shitty 'finding out how to DECORATE' mod. Tougher zombies that replace normal zombies, certain zombies that actually have to be killed more than once, etc.
I decided that that is a very shitty thing to do in a mod, because mapmakers design monsters to be used in the same exact places. Demons are there to soak up bullets. Chaingunners to bring the pain. Hell Barons as minibosses, Zombies and shotgunners as gunfodder, etc. On top of that, weapons are in the same spots to be used for the same purposes. If a mapmaker wants to equip you with a rapid-fire weapon, you shouldn't make the chaingun into a long-range bolt-action sniper.. If a mapmaker wants to equip you with an explosive weapon, why would you replace it with a shotgun?

Even though I'm breaking my own rule with my newer mod, at least in the case of the plasma rifle. Turning it into a coilgun, a centered long-range beam weapon. Said coilgun recharges power over time, and fires rods. So you COULD fire them all in one big burst, and then have to wait to let it charge (or use an inventory item that recharges it) but it's smarter to line all the monsters up and fire.

>> No.2693068

>>2693061
>Tougher zombies that replace normal zombies, certain zombies that actually have to be killed more than once, etc.
What about mostly aesthetic variations? Monsters that are functionally all the same thing but have some visual variety to them.

>> No.2693085

>>2693068
Do you have any idea how much drawing that would involve?

>> No.2693086

>>2692442

I pop around to lurk sometimes when I start playing certain things more often again. These places never remind me of /v/ because /v/ is angry. /vr/ and /vg/ at their worst are a sort of combined pissy, passive aggressive, over sensitive and have a weird air of arrogance more reminiscent of forums. That guy said he didn't mean it, then you both go full retard.

To Yholl if he's even actually around, love the mod, thank you for your work, please give thanks to everyone involved as well, looking forward to update, don't be a bitch because of some random post it'll make you crazy, don't internet while days tired. Good luck on sorting out the unexpected problems, you meme spouting fuck.

>> No.2693091

>>2693036

yep, you've never made a wad before

Do you realize Zandronum's account system was made to appeal the really, really, really, really, really, really, really tiny deathmatch audience Zandro has, right? It would expose a lot of problems the system has.

It wouldn't work in a massive project such as the one you were talking about

>> No.2693092
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2693092

>>2693048
Given that he's looking down the sights, or preparing to be looking down the sights, the gun probably would be in the center of his view, and not to the side.

>> No.2693096

>>2692948
>(did somebody say SHADOW WARRIOR UZI?)

I don't want to see that shitty thing ever again, not even ironically

>> No.2693101
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2693101

>>2693092
well still you hold up against your shoulder.

in doom, its look like your holding it up against your chest.

>> No.2693102
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2693102

>>2693061
>as long as it is NOT, say, 'monsters are all basically the same but do more damage/attack faster and have more health'.

Yeah, I'd probably use this mod as an experiment for more intricate/bastardly enemy behavior, instead of just "Doom Monsters But More Damage/Health".
All right, I guess I'll do it.

First order is making everything darker and gloomier. Added some brightmaps to lights and did a script to darken all sectors by up to 32 units, also replaced the sky with blackness. New palette to desaturate things a little.
For the sake of clarity, I'll probably give the monsters brightmaps so they're more easily recognized and identified, so we don't become Doom 3.

>> No.2693103

>>2693091
Ok, then let's request some access to the system clock and shit, so we can do it in GLOOME.

>> No.2693107

>>2693102
Looks nice, like "Lasting Light - We kept the shooting edition".

Looking forward to it, anon.

>> No.2693112
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2693112

>less than an hour to midnight and it still isn't out

>> No.2693123
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2693123

So I was searching some shitty flash games and I found out that there are people who dismantled the Doom and Quake flash ports, put their own mods in and then put them back together.
One example is SUPER SERGEANT SHOOTER, a flash game that is literally a modified shareware IWAD with model rips and levels generated in OBLIGE and there's 4 of them.
This is a screenshot of the first game. I don't know if I can post the link to the game here.

>> No.2693131

>>2693112
that looks like an extremely uncanny version of the hypothetical retarded babby markiplier and pewdieshit would have if one of them got pregnant and rolled down a couple of staircases with a plate full of vodka shots.

>> No.2693132
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2693132

>>2693101
You don't move with your torso facing forward when looking down the sights of a rifle

>> No.2693147

>>2693132
i know it just doesn't look that way to me

>> No.2693156

>>2693068
That would be pretty cool.

After all, I did spend time working on the translations for the zombies. Might as well actually use them.

>> No.2693158

>>2693112

Not on australia time zone.
Or he could just delay it for another day to laugh at your suffering.

>> No.2693165

>>2693123
where are those sprites from?

they look heavily reminiscent of the doom 64 zombies

>> No.2693167
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2693167

>>2693112
Been playing the new build, it's pretty neat.
Talking with him now, he's setting up the (massive) credits list and then will post.

>>2693131
Well, you're not entirely wrong.

>> No.2693174

>>2693165
I don't know what the enemy sprites are from but that weapon sprite is the UMP from CSGO.

>> No.2693179

>>2693102
I'm already excited for this.

>> No.2693180
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2693180

>>2693101
Jokes aside I don't get how some people legitimately believe the chestguns thing

>> No.2693195

>>2693180
BFG is best.

It loves you and wants to give you hugs.

>> No.2693198
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2693198

>>2692986
Weland works a lot like a crossplatform Forge (the original mapping tool released with Infinity). There are still active map creators putting out deathmatch packs, and sometimes an entire TC pops up.

http://treellama.org/weland

>> No.2693213

>>2693180
Yeah, this, pretty much.

>> No.2693227

>>2693180

I love this pic

>> No.2693236

>>2693061

That coil gun sounds cool

>> No.2693247

>ednerd coming in at the last second
Not sure what I expected.

>> No.2693257

>>2693247
If I were Yholl I would delay until the entire doom community eats itself. I mean, it's a few more guns and built in nashgore. Not even any new monsters.

>> No.2693260

>>2693247

Both of you are being dumbasses.
Shut up already.

>> No.2693262

>>2693132
This artist doesn't seem to be able to put noses on faces very well.

And apparently can draw a gun just fine but the wad of cash is just too much to ask for.

>> No.2693263

>>2693260
I'm just fucking tired of him acting like some hotshot when all he's doing is getting a shot in when the war is over.

>> No.2693267

>>2693257
most monsters are in already

>> No.2693268
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2693268

>>2693263
>war

>> No.2693270

>>2693268
Fight, whatever.

>> No.2693281
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2693281

is habbening!

>> No.2693319

kyle's not dead then?

>> No.2693327

>>2693319
Nobody quits Doom.

>> No.2693332

>>2693327
And if they actually did, their bosses would deathmatch them in a minute.

>> No.2693337

>>2693327
Except Ijon

>> No.2693349

>>2693337
Lee Killough too

>> No.2693365

>>2693327
>>2693337
>>2693349

And Ty Halderman

>> No.2693372
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2693372

>>2693365

>implying he isn't kicking the shit out of demons in hell. RIGHT NOW.

>> No.2693375

>>2693365
only in Erdos's sense of "left"

>> No.2693382

>>2691173
sorry to hear it. i know EXACTLY what you mean.

>> No.2693387

>>2691927
there's also a picture of a revenant typing a pro-skeleton message

>> No.2693394

>>2692352
>his avatar on Doomworld
i'm pretty sure that's a joke. also http://bash.org/?8004

>> No.2693443
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2693443

>>2693387

>> No.2693470

>>2693236
That's the attempt! Here's my current function list for the game, though I need more sprites for basically everything:

>Scout Class: Faster and lighter than the normal marine, the Scout can also go blurred (like a blursphere) when he stops moving, but loses it the moment he takes damage. But he only has 50 health, so be careful!
>Heavy Class: Slower and more durable than the normal marine, the Heavy has twice as much maximum armor and health.
>Tech Class: The Technician uses only 34ths the ammo for tech weapons. And starts out with some useful gadgets.

And then for weapons:
>Sword (Replaces Chainsaw): I wanted a holy sword in my mod, so I added one. It doesn't fit with the rest of the mod thematically, but fuck you! It's nanobots. Or plasma. Or something.
>Pistol (Replaces Pistol): It's bigger and heavier and more accurate. Simple!
>Shotgun (Still a shotgun!): More powerful, knocks enemies back, longer reload.
>Flamethrower (Replaces the SSG): Burns things alive. Useful for zombies, because burning them alive means that they don't release their possessor spirits!
>Plasma Gatling (Replaces the chaingun): The first tech weapon, the plasma gatling fires off a bunch of projectiles in an uncoordinated mess.
>Grenade Launcher (Replaces the Rocket Launcher): Fires a grenade in a looong parabolic arc. Using the altfire will make it bounce off of walls until it stops or hits a monster.
>Coilgun (Replaces the plasma rifle): I just described it, but I'll do it again. Charges power over time, spends both power and rails to fire. Fires as fast as you want until it runs out of power. Technician's perk only works for the power draw.
>Antimass Driver Cannon (Replaces the BFG): I'll need to tweak this. A lot. Until I can get it to work the way I want. In short... Black holes.

Later I plan on making more than one weapon per slot and letting you choose via menus. Because fun.
So far all I've finished is the pistol and sword.

>> No.2693484

>>2693257
Bruiser Brothers. Machine Elemental. Terminator. Tech-Sinner. Cacobyss. Lord of the Abyss.

Totally no new monsters.

Also, it's out.
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37044

>> No.2693487

yholl can i suck your dick

>> No.2693502

>>2693487
I need documentation signed by your doctor proving that you are not, in fact, The Hungry.
Also hopefully female.

>> No.2693505

congratulations!

>>2689172 see >>2693484

>> No.2693510

>>2692796
bit of a dry year for gameplay mods.

>> No.2693516

>>2693502
dude pinky swear and no am a dude but ill pay you

>> No.2693526
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2693526

I've only been skimming /doom/ threads for the past several months. Other than Reelism 3.1, what did I miss?

>> No.2693527
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2693527

>>2693123
cool, here's the wad from the swf

got any more?

https://www.sendspace.com/file/v2v0pl

>> No.2693530

Who in the fuck keeps giggling every other second in that RLA stream with ednerd.

>> No.2693546

>>2693526
quite a flurry of anon-made maps. toxic base, vanillic acid, Quirk.wad

>> No.2693547

>>2693530
kate

>> No.2693548

>>2693510
If it's all shit or boring, we'll just give it to the latest bd again. (no pressure)

>> No.2693556
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2693556

>>2693123
>>2693527
here's the Super Sergeant Shooter 3 wad

https://www.sendspace.com/file/6wdy53

>> No.2693558
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2693558

>quad shotgun can't shoot one barrel at a time with all barrels being altfire

i was hyped for this

>> No.2693564

>>2693349
>Lee Killough
What ever happened to him?
In the summer of 2000, he dumped all of his technical writeups on the Doom engine, and virtually disappeared.

His DoomWiki article says he began work in numerical linear algebra, but no citation. Hell, the Wikipedia article that its a copypaste of was deleted because there is so little information on him.

MBF was awesome. When I was younger, I had a machine with a 486DX2 and 16MB of RAM. After testing out the new (at the time) Doom Legacy source port, which ran like balls ofc, MBF was a godsend. 640x400, Boom-compatible wad support, and could use GUS patches for decent MIDI on my shitty little SB clone, and still had a good framerate.

>> No.2693567
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2693567

>>2693123
>>2693527
>>2693556
the wads from super sergeant shooter 2 and 4

kinsie should pop these into reelism

>> No.2693570

>>2693547
Someone tell her to shut up or stop faking that high pitched voice.

>> No.2693573

>>2693470
>34ths
By that I mean 3/4ths, of course.

Then finally we got items. Not sure when or where these will pop in, because I prefer to limit it to things that spawn during the normal game, but items are usable inventory pieces you can use whenever.

>FRIENDLY DRONE: Summons a dronefriend! If I can figure it out, I'll have the player take control of it and leave his body behind. Because that's fun. (and also allow you to turn this part off through configs)
>Battery, medkit, etc. You know what this stuff is.
>Beacon. Call in a random assortment of whatever the UAC can spare! Batteries, ammo, maybe even a weapon.
>Shield Projector: Creates a large nonsolid entity that eats damage and reflects projectiles for a bit.

Any other ideas for usable items?

>> No.2693578

>>2693547
that reads strangely as "kyle". She also has a pretty weird voice for a girl.

Mmm.

>> No.2693581
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2693581

i feel like i'm playing a GBA shooter and i like it a lot

just needs some resizing and some love

>> No.2693584

if marrub or torridgristle is reading this could you rip the sounds from dead space and dead space 2

>> No.2693591 [DELETED] 

>>2693578
she's a tranny

>> No.2693593

>>2693578
>>2693570
nah, kate ain't kyle. kate's an mtf. acts cutesy for some reason, don't know why. constant noisemaking over people's talking just isn't endearing.

>> No.2693594

>>2693584
i don't have it installed and downloading things is hard now with satellite internet

google the archive formats you see with dead space in the query and you should find the tools

http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=12716 this should have tools but it's only for registered users, which requires money

term should be registered but i don't remember if he knows his password

>> No.2693598

>>2693594
thanks! I didn't know there was a dedicated tool for those files
hopefully term comes along today or tomorrow and hooks me up, if not I'll go ahead and sped some $$$

>> No.2693601
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2693601

lots of consistent aesthetic / quality assets

>> No.2693603

>>2693598
>>2693594
actually it looks like it doesn't need a donation anymore, it's free, I just signed up

>> No.2693604
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2693604

>>2693123
HEHEHEH

>> No.2693606

>>2693570
sounds like a retarded underage kid tbh

>> No.2693607

>>2693593
>acts cutesy for some reason, don't know why
the need to constantly remind everyone around you that you are, in fact, a girl now, is a common behaviour pattern for those who have transitioned.

>> No.2693608
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2693608

>> No.2693609

>>2693607
why are they even playing with that disgusting mentally-ill degenerate? it's ruining the stream with all this retarded giggling

>> No.2693615

this is one of the most autistic things barely related to doom i've seen here

>> No.2693616

>>2693615
gotta bring pol into everything

>> No.2693617

>>2691182
I don't think we'll get more than 5 maps total, if that. It's a bad project for several reasons:
>It's really hard to make things that look realistic in Doom
>Making it a ZDoom project means people are obliged to put in all the bells & whistles
>A really long deadline doesn't mean people put in more time, it just means they procrastinate - see every school and college project/essay ever
>Real locations aren't fun. They're either boxy, repetitive and symmetrical, or they're wide open spaces. Neither makes for a good Doom level.

tl;dr It's a really limiting and bad theme that only sounds good until you think about it properly.

>> No.2693620

>>2693617
>It's really hard to make things that look realistic in Doom
So don't.

>Making it a ZDoom project means people are obliged to put in all the bells & whistles
Uh, no they're not. They're not obliged to do anything at all.

>Real locations aren't fun. They're either boxy, repetitive and symmetrical, or they're wide open spaces. Neither makes for a good Doom level.
Not required to make them super-realistic.

I can understand "I don't like it" but it's no more limiting a theme than anything else.

>> No.2693630

>>2693609
I thought it was shivers just being dumb and jostling around, you know, good times

now it's just plain obnoxious and legitimately annoying. Not to mention somewhat disturbing.

>> No.2693631

>>2693123
here's the super zombie shooter wad

https://www.sendspace.com/file/t4fyi6

it's got a zombie and two different modern military guys

>> No.2693636

>>2693620
If the levels don't look like "famous monuments, landmarks, or places of interest" then they're not really adhering to the theme, are they? I mean it's one thing to say "this level was inspired by the Pyramids but obviously things are different" but if you don't have some pyramid-looking pyramids around then you're just bullshitting. And that's a really easy-to-build example.

>> No.2693640

Yellow Stone National Park - The WAD

No monsters, just deer and things lifted from hunting games

No weapons, just binoculars and trail mix

>> No.2693645

>>2693636

That's a very easy to build example, yeah, you could quite easily say Misri Halek fits those.
I think you're vastly over-estimating how demanding the requirements actually are.

Let's try something really specific and especially recognizable. You could make a level that starts outside the White House and it's a large palace that looks white and then goes inside and suddenly it's really intricate; you'd basically have Hellground's map01.
You could make a level that's separated floors, jump into a room, kill enemies, go back into elevator, jump into room, kill enemies, go back into elevator, that plays exactly like Going Down. Then you step out and you see you were going up the Eiffel Tower.

I think assuming, since I'm not the OP of the challenge the goal of this isn't to try and make something realistic or earthly, but rather to jumpkick inspiration about what a level environment could be since you can take an existing area and warp it.

>> No.2693647

>>2693620
>>Making it a ZDoom project means people are obliged to put in all the bells & whistles
>Uh, no they're not. They're not obliged to do anything at all.
no, if a project or map requires zdoom without good obvious reason, it's gonna have a bad time.

>> No.2693650
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2693650

>>2693645
make a common or garden bog standard E1 techbase map, then in one room put a glass box with the Crown Jewels in it and call it The Techbase Of London

>>2692775
>Kustam
captcha related

>> No.2693652

>>2693647
>without good obvious reason

a good obvious reason: they made it in zdoom

i don't understand this standard that you must have at least X amount of justification for a zdoom mapset.
we don't have any such justification as for why gameplay mods use zdoom instead of being able to support zandronum.

>> No.2693657

>>2693650

I would be fine with this. Maybe the zombies and demons are the security measures the Queen hired.

>> No.2693658

>>2693484

The armageddon start weapons don't seem to count towards the total weapon count

>> No.2693661

>>2693650
>make a common or garden bog standard E1 techbase map, then in one room put a glass box with the Crown Jewels in it and call it The Techbase Of London

do it, e1 techbases are awesome

>> No.2693664

>>2693645
>the goal of this isn't to try and make something realistic or earthly, but rather to jumpkick inspiration about what a level environment could be since you can take an existing area and warp it
That was never made clear, but I don't think the discussion was ever had. The impression I had from "Nazi Moon Base would be fine if it was a secret map" would be that there was a fairly strict interpretation of the theme going on. But if there was a much looser interpretation going on then I think it would be a much better theme.

>>2693647
>>2693652
A lot of people prefer PrBoom to ZDoom, whether it's because of invisibility behaviour or a better framerate or whatever. Forcing people to use a different port for just a couple of minor things here and there is a bit annoying.

For example I don't like Chocolate Doom since I've been accustomed to good resolutions, so if I was forced to use that for a very minor reason then I'd me quite peeved.

>> No.2693673

>>2693652
>a good obvious reason: they made it in zdoom
no, sorry. that's not enough.

>i don't understand this standard that you must have at least X amount of justification for a zdoom mapset.

the same applies to all map formats. if you don't use a whole load of boom features in a map you'll get moaned at until you make it work in -complevel 2. even though boom has lots of useful linedefs that make things easier to do, if you require boom compatibility just to use a lower-to-next-lowest, your map will be shunned.

the only genuine exception is limit-removing, because everyone knows vanilla's rendering limits are fucking irritating and will forgive you for being not bothered to try to work with them.

>we don't have any such justification as for why gameplay mods use zdoom instead of being able to support zandronum.

here i'm not familiar enough with gameplay mods to be able to comment. how many should be able to support zandronum? two recent examples: should reelism? should doomrla?

>> No.2693681

>>2693664
>Forcing people to use a different port for just a couple of minor things here and there is a bit annoying.

As a Zandronum player I can sort of sympathize, since there's a lot of ZDoom-specific functions which...well, aren't really all that big and can very easily be Zandified.
Until recently, frandom could be Zandified simply by applying a decimal divisor to it. Hell, even something like the recent like A_SetSpeed has at least three different alternatives that can allow it to be used in pre-2.1 G/ZDoom builds, or Zandro.
But ultimately I think it's more important that someone works in a context that they're both comfortable with and know how to work with.

>>2693673
>how many should be able to support zandronum? two recent examples: should reelism? should doomrla?
A lot.
I'm not familiar with the code of those two in particular, but let's take a mod like WildWeasel's Nazis!, which is a fantastic mod that uses a whole bunch of ZDoom features that can be very easily worked around in order to work in Zandro--the tracer trails for the bullets can be done via spawning items while reading the bullet's velocity, the cast call at the end can be cut entirely because it's just fluff, the A_CheckSightOrRange can just be turned into a simple A_CheckSight and then A_JumpIfCloser, etc, etc.
But nobody in their right mind would insist that Nazis! should be Zandronum-compatible. It'd be stupid to try and force an author to try and make his project for something he's not comfortable using.

So for me, yes, "they made it in ZDoom" is a good enough reason. I know maps and gameplay mods are held to two entirely separate standards in the community, but I think it's very silly to do that.

>> No.2693687

>>2693664
>A lot of people prefer PrBoom to ZDoom, whether it's because of invisibility behaviour or a better framerate or whatever. Forcing people to use a different port for just a couple of minor things here and there is a bit annoying.
>For example I don't like Chocolate Doom since I've been accustomed to good resolutions, so if I was forced to use that for a very minor reason then I'd me quite peeved.

yes, thank you, that explains it nicely. it's a social issue borne from the preferences of a sufficiently large section of the community.

the short of it is if you want people to use an engine they don't like your map had better be damn good enough to warrant it. for example, for me, thunderpeak and zen dynamics were good enough projects that i was able to ignore my general disaffection for zdoom while playing them.

(not to say i don't like zdoom at all, i just don't use it except for gameplay mods; i have no interest in zdoom for traditional/unmodded play)

>> No.2693693

>>2693687
>the short of it is if you want people to use an engine they don't like your map had better be damn good enough to warrant it.
frankly, i would much rather people simply don't play my maps rather than use an engine they feel so passionately against using, so the idea of being boom-compatible has never had interest to me

we're in this for fun. i want to have fun making maps, i want people to have fun playing them, if they wouldn't have fun in zdoom then oh well, i hope you have fun with the millions of other options out there

>> No.2693696

>>2693681
>the tracer trails for the bullets can be done via spawning items while reading the bullet's velocity, the cast call at the end can be cut entirely because it's just fluff, the A_CheckSightOrRange can just be turned into a simple A_CheckSight and then A_JumpIfCloser, etc, etc.

you have a point i guess. this is the same as, for example, staircases that build downwards: perfectly doable in Doom (vanilla) with much effort and lots of control sectors, but in Boom is much easier because there's a specific linedef action for it.

>> No.2693702

IMO
it's a doubleedged sword because the entire point of making things is for people to play them, but the point of a hobby is to have fun

where do you balance the audience reach versus your own comfort and skill?

>> No.2693720

>>2693681
It's worth pointing out that Nazis did get a zandro build, done by someone else, and Weasel hated it because of how many of these little corners and touches were bypassed. Same with Russian Overkill.
Not sure where this fits in the discussion, but felt like it was worth mentioning.

>> No.2693724

>>2693720

I think that's more a matter of the ports being done by complete and total imbeciles.
Compare the port of Project MSX (horrible) compared to the port of Psychic (amazingly faithful).

>> No.2693747

>>2693693
That's a reasonable position to take and I completely understand your reasoning but it's not just your map. Even if your map is the only one that needs ZDoom, it means the whole mapset needs ZDoom, so you're locking out potential players of other people's work.

Of course the thing about this particular project is that most notable landmarks I can think of have slopes in them and you need ZDoom for that.

>> No.2693775

>>2692514

good boy! now jump!

>> No.2693776

>>2693658
Yeah, that's quite an old feature that I haven't touched in ages, looks like when I revamped some other stuff it's now missing the proper weapon limit stuff.

I'm not a fan of it anyway, I'll probably scrap the seperate actors and consolidate them into the main one I use for the special starts.

Part of the Armageddon starts is actually super broken too, there's a 1 in 4 chance that the Technician will break horribly because the armor stuff he gets is flat out wrong.

>> No.2693798

What's the best way to learn how to make maps for dn3d? I found this playlist on youtube www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL642EC2936BC15B3A but I thought I'd ask for more source before getting on it.

>> No.2693801

>>2693776

Also noticed that the "In Inventory" menu doesn't work, nothing shows up in it.

And I got a "jump target 'rlnuclearonslaught' not found in rltechnicalmoditem" error when I modded the Focused Double Shotgun with a technical mod pack.

>> No.2693810
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2693810

So is this worth getting on Steam?
Does it require fiddling with Dosbox and shit?

>> No.2693814
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2693814

>>2693556
They removed the projectile sprites from the plasma gun to make it look like a hitscan weapon, that's adorable.

>> No.2693815
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2693815

>>2693814
(plasma gun replacement not pictured, oops)

>> No.2693816

>>2693810
Game itself is 10/10. I got it from GOG and it runs fine. No setup needed really.

>> No.2693819

>>2693810
It's pre-setup with Dosbox. I don't remember if it needs any tweaking beyond that.

>> No.2693867

>>2693556
sick, i can set doom.wad as the base resource in slade and then i can get slade to delete all of the duplicate stuff from doom under the menu archive / maintenance

>> No.2693905

>>2692864
That's weird. I get high 60s usually and it's pretty smooth.
>>2692872
Hah, nice.

>> No.2693954

>>2693810
Steam release is just the GOG release with less extras. Get it DRM free and save yourself the trouble.

>> No.2693961

>>2693615
the lack of moderation lately is crossing the line from worrying to suspicious

>> No.2693963

is there a way to set zdoom's window to something like 640x480 but have the renderer set to 320x240 so that the whole window is 2x pixelated

>> No.2693967

>>2693530
>>2693630
I don't know who or what is making that obnoxious fake laugh, but I skip an entire hour ahead and they're still doing it. Just...stop, whoever you are, you've made the video unbearable.

>> No.2693972

>>2693262
>the wad of cash is just too much to ask for
It's a fucking shoop, the wad of cash is from Duke Nukem 3D

>> No.2693980

>>2693972
obviously

it's too much to ask for it to be drawn, since everything else was drawn so why randomly the money

it's inconsistent and ugly

>> No.2693991

>>2693980
It's a fucking edit of an existing image you rube, the wad of cash is added as a joke, it's not there in the original.

http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1242398

>> No.2693993

>>2693991
so it's just an inconsistent and ugly edit

that someone genuinely considered worth saving

wow

>> No.2694001

>>2693980
>>2693993
nigga u dumb

>> No.2694075

>>2693991
oh good
the nose is still disgusting, so nothing changed.

>> No.2694080

>>2693123
here's the wad from modern trooper shooter level pack without the duplicated doom 1 stuff, but with the blanked out graphics so you can get the authentic modern trooper shooter level pack experience

https://www.sendspace.com/file/wgkdc0

>> No.2694082
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2694082

>>2694080
forgot to post a sprite from it

here's a sprite from it

>> No.2694105
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2694105

comfy

>> No.2694112

>>2694105

those are legit screenshots of 3D models shrunk down to Doom's dimensions

Jesus

>> No.2694116

>>2694105
it's like if duke nukem had faint black borders on everything.

>> No.2694124
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2694124

>> No.2694126

>>2694080
here's the first modern trooper shooter wad

https://www.sendspace.com/file/7l094v

it seems to be the same thing, just different maps

reminder: doom 1, not doom 2

>> No.2694135
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2694135

>> No.2694139

>>2694135
i want more 100s! i want more 100s on that board!

>> No.2694140
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2694140

>> No.2694145
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2694145

Is there a way to remove the weird bending effect when I look up/down in Blood?

>> No.2694148

>>2694145
well you're not in blood, you're in eduke32

should go away if you're using hardware / opengl renderer and not software

>> No.2694150
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2694150

Best wad ever.

>> No.2694192
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2694192

>>2694126

>> No.2694203

>>2693123
>I don't know if I can post the link to the game here.
Of course you can. What makes you think you can't?

>> No.2694226

>>2694105
>>2693123
what the fuck

>> No.2694240

>>2694126
>dat heavy machine gun
>just a plasma rifle reskin
>invisible projectiles to make it look like a hitscan weapon

lmao, can't even lrn2 DeHackEd

>> No.2694246

>>2694203
Spoken like someone who's never been hit by the spamfilter before. That shit is sensitive as fuck and if you trip it you can get autobanned.

>> No.2694257

>>2694246
that did happen to me once, i got kicked for a few days for trying to link to a wad on speedy share

there are plenty of sites that are fine though. mega, mediafire, uguu.se, maxfile.ro, tinyupload is my current favorite

>> No.2694276

surely there are more flash games that are just modded wads in the flash port of doom

>> No.2694283
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2694283

>>2694145
What mod is this?

>> No.2694287

>>2694283
BloodCM

For some reason I'm not getting any music with it.

>> No.2694289

>>2694283
Blood: The Last Vampire

>> No.2694330

>>2694105
Is it weird I kind of like how this looks?

>> No.2694334

>>2694330
not at all

>> No.2694350
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2694350

the wad from Super 3D Pig Feeder

https://www.sendspace.com/file/adn8rn

>> No.2694385

>>2693604
I know I'm super late, but what weapon mod is that?

>> No.2694386

>>2694385
DemonSteele

https://github.com/TerminusEst13/Folded1000Times

>> No.2694392

>>2694386
You sure?
I thought Demonsteele was pictured here: >>2693608

>> No.2694395

>>2694392
It's the new character.

>> No.2694396

>>2694392
It's the second character, Shi-Hong.

She's techy fists.

>> No.2694432
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2694432

>>2693993
Nigger have you never played Duke Nukem 3D?

Are you yanking my chain here?

>>2694075
Never said it was good.

>> No.2694440

>>2694432
i never said i didn't recognize it

i'm saying it's out of place, it's ugly, and it adds nothing worthwhile to the image

>> No.2694447
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2694447

just downloaded blood CM.

did blood have freelook? i'm the kind of fag who likes to be as authentic as possible to the original experience.

>> No.2694450

>>2694447
then why aren't you playing Blood on DOSBox

>> No.2694454

>>2694450
then why aren't you answering my questionbox

>> No.2694458

>>2694454
i don't have your answer, i just saw a glaring inconsistency in your post and wanted more information

you can google if blood had freelook, but i can't google why you want "authentic as possible to the original experience" but are playing a blood tc for duke nukem 3d

>> No.2694494

>>2694450
>why aren't you playing it on a high clocked Athlon with AGP 3dfx graphics on dos 6?

>> No.2694495

>>2694494
probably because it costs money to buy one

DOSBox is free

>> No.2694496

tread's at its bump limit but, does anybody know how to remove the character limit when customizing your name in zandronum?

>> No.2694530

So... what's the deal with DRLA? I'm not having a great time.

What's a good WAD to try it with?

>> No.2694534

>>2694530
i was under the assumption that it was best played with random oblige maps with perm death, similar to a roguelike

>> No.2694535

>>2694496

You can't.

>> No.2694539

>>2694535
and this is a good thing.

>> No.2694542

>>2694447
It did, but if youre trying to be "authentic as possible to the original experience" you already fucked that up by using DOSBox.

>> No.2694543

>>2694539
How?

>> No.2694545

>>2694542
By not using DOSBox*

>> No.2694552

>>2694543
so you don't end up with your server full of clowns named like xXx420xXxNoScopexXxNiggersAndJewsTheWhiteManLose_>EpicTesticlesBalls<MILFHunter or tULOfGOPj5Xof9x19CnwjzqzgzdtSwTzU/pyrhq18YpbPJaothShsUBQb2EeP6MSxC8tr1A7br3djjhIPNZ40+cTcHb+xZqbaqHTdHooncaGsdp/f7EGb8fJboDa+tJFjqtW/9FZgXlRdqY4J/NNcBbhyZpT85QtzXk5OT+RXL3G/TT3uSg77s2U1MSCUTAg

>> No.2694556

>>2694552
oh, good point

>> No.2694560

>>2694534
OBLIGE! I forgot about that one, oh man this is so chilla-sweet

>> No.2694574

What does the DRLA update bring to the table? It's the same as I remember

>> No.2694575
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2694575

I remember hearing in Gzdoom there's a way to place a command to force the game to auto-resurrect you whenever you die but I forgot how to do it.

Does anyone know?

>> No.2694576

>>2694574
how about reading the changelog?

>> No.2694582

>>2694574
>>2694576
sorry i should give you a link. see >>2693484

>>2694575
you can just bind a key to "resurrect"

>> No.2694584

>>2694582
But i'm lazy.

>> No.2694587

>>2694575
>>2694584

This is disgustingly casual behavior. Shameful.

If you REALLY can't handle getting gud, however, run in Zandronum and write a Death script that executes a ConsoleCommand("resurrect");.

>> No.2694589

>>2694584
what can i do to make you happy?

>> No.2694595

>>2694587
>and write a Death script

It's okay if you want to berate him for being a casual but at least offer an easier solution

>>2694575

open the console and type
bind q resurrect

there you go

>> No.2694605

>>2694595
Do you even read?

>> No.2694616

>>2694595
he wants an auto-execute, a bind that resurrects isn't enough

this isn't just casual
this is the most casual of casuals

>> No.2694620

>>2694575
turn on buddha mode, you will take damage but never die

>> No.2694637

>tfw when even a TTTT+rocket launcher isn't fast enough to kill things in Going Down

Playing Demolitionist was a mistake

>> No.2694640

>>2694637
>not assembling the micro launcher

>> No.2694646

>>2694640

It's too weak.

>> No.2694663

>>2694552
I like to think you just copy pasted some random url from google images

>> No.2694673

>>2694663
almost.

head -c 144 /dev/urandom | base64 -w0 | xclip

>> No.2694681

>>2694646
way more fun to use though

>> No.2694693

>>2694575

Why not put buddha in your autoexec?

>> No.2694709
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2694709

>> No.2694717

>>2694709
is this really brutal doom?

>> No.2694719

>>2694717

No, it's a map.
You dumbass.

>> No.2694725

>>2694709
looks like a shadowman map. i know it isn't but, yeah.

>> No.2694727

>>2694719
>>2694725
The true question is

What map?

>> No.2694728

>>2694727
Judging by the filename right there in the post, I would assume BLDSTLP.wad

>> No.2694742

New thread?

>> No.2694743

>>2694728
got a link? Google just gave me a review of it.

>> No.2694746

>>2694742
i'm doing it right now

>> No.2694748

>>2694746
Thank you.

>> No.2694749

>>2694746
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/bldstlp

>> No.2694751

>>2694743
scroll down and click on the /idgames link

>> No.2694758

NEW THREAD

>>2694756
>>2694756
>>2694756

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