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This thread is for all things related to traditional or manic, horizontal or vertical shooting games, commonly referred to as shmups.

What are
>your favorite shooters?
>your recent procurements?
>your latest accomplishments?

Previous thread:
>>2663958

New to the genre of shmups? Check out this helpful page:
http://www.racketboy.com/retro/shooters/shmups-101-a-beginners-guide-to-2d-shooters

Video resources that explain superplay recordings:
https://www.youtube.com/user/STGWeekly

Play Twinkle Star Sprites (a versus shmup/puzzler) online:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wa8ajjdu7ptbjbn/twinkle_pak.7z

Decide /vr/'s official greatest shmup developer:
http://strawpoll.me/4496713

List of the hardest clears, ranked in order of difficulty:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.wikihouse.com/stg/index.php%3FSTG%25A5%25E9%25A5%25F3%25A5%25AF%25B0%25EC%25CD%25F7

In recent news, Eschatos and Judgement Silversword+Cardinal Sins released on Steam today. GO BUY THAT SHIT IF YOU LIKE SHMUPS, HOLY SHIT.

>> No.2688871

>>2688856
>Judgement Silversword+Cardinal Sins
So what's the difference between the two?

>> No.2688872

>>2688871
What the hell, I just watched a video and the game is literally shitting extra lives left and right.

>> No.2689019

Which one of these games should I 1cc next?

>Last Resort
>Xexex
>Gradius II
>Thunder Force IV

I played them all a bit already and to me they all seem to have similar difficulty.

>> No.2689024

>>2689019
thunder force should be the easiest, do that. enjoy the rocking soundtrack

>> No.2689030

>>2688872
Just played my first run of JS Resurrection (Normal)...the lives come quick, but you still have to learn proper shield usage or else the fast bullets get ya. Game's fun so far, I've been missing out.

>> No.2689159

>>2689019
2 ALL Last Resort.

>> No.2689191

Are there any good resources for figuring out what stick to pick up/build? I'd like to get one.

>> No.2689376

I just beat my first Shmup ever, R-Type for Turbograf on the Wii Virtual Console (on a crt), took me weeks to be able to beat it in one sitting.

I dont know where to go from here.
What Shmup do I play next?
Is Axelay a good idea? Musha?

>> No.2689379

>>2689376
>Is Axelay a good idea? Musha?
Excellent. Just do it.

>> No.2689469

>>2689376
>I dont know where to go from here.

Why not the other R-Type games? They're good too you know.

>> No.2689879

>>2689376
Lords of Thunder also on VC.

>> No.2690109

Salamander is my all time favorite. Wild ride from start to finish. It's kinda short, but that's alright.

>> No.2690264

Hi, I'm playing Raiden IV, can somebody briefly explain what the hell is going on in very simple words? Like all this stuff I'm picking up, I don't know what it does. Thanks in advance.

>> No.2690386

>>2690264
Red = wide shot
purple = don't
blue = laser
H = homing missiles
M = normal missiles
B = bomb

Everything else is just for points so you can safely ignore them.

>> No.2690391

>>2690264
Stick with Vulcan (red), it does the most power when point blanking and also makes stages easier due to its spread. Also, if you don't hold down fire for a few seconds, your missiles charge and get more powerful.

>> No.2690435

>>2689376
Axelay and MUSHA are great

>> No.2690504

>>2689376
Play some Gradius II on Turbo-CD, it has an exclusive extra stage.

>> No.2690579

>>2690504
Best stage in the game too.

>> No.2690615

>>2690264
>Hi, I'm playing Raiden IV, can somebody briefly explain what the hell is going on in very simple words? Like all this stuff I'm picking up, I don't know what it does. Thanks in advance.
Your daily reminder that people have become this dumb and can't figure out absolutely basic things without being spoonfed. No wonder the genre is dying and 99% can't grasp scoring when they are vegetable brained.

>> No.2690653

>>2690615
At least they are trying.

>> No.2690661

>>2689019
Xexex is a good game but it's oh so fucking ugly. Most hideous characters ever. And the stupidest looking ship / sea urchin looking piece of shit ever

>> No.2690812

>>2690615
>this guy

>> No.2690842

>>2690615
>shmups are without fault
>it's everyone in the world's fault for not liking shmups

Shmup cuck logic.

>> No.2690876

>>2690615

Triggered

>> No.2690883

>>2690653
Hardly, considering that there's a tutorial that answers every single question he posted built into the game. You can't even start playing without seeing it.

>> No.2690968

>>2690883
But look at Resogun, most of the players I know really were new to the genre and really got into it when it came out, despite is a meme tier STG.

>> No.2691018

>>2690883
Where's the tutorial I can't find it

>> No.2691070

>>2690661
I actually find it very beautiful. It's very artistic and abstract, like playing R-Type on an acid trip.

>> No.2691108

>>2690968
What does "meme tier" even MEAN? I watched a video and it seemed like a Fantasy Zone clone.

>> No.2691127

>>2691108
If anything Resogun is unique among a very memetic genre.

>> No.2691292

>>2690842
Preference for shmups wasn't even part of the discussion so 10/10 for poor reading comprehension there champ. In fact no one was even suggesting a fault either you utterly thick as pig shit son of a cunt.

>> No.2691515

Do any of you nerds have a PCB?

>> No.2691526

>>2691070

Xexex, Metal Black and Tatsujin Oh are easily the best looking games of the early 90's.

>> No.2691596

>>2690615
Now it's a shmup thread :^)

>> No.2691627

>>2691515
2poor for that, maybe when I finnish my studies.

>> No.2691873
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2691873

Still the best.

>> No.2691885

>>2691873
If it wasn't for the early 3d graphics it probably would be :^)

>> No.2692115

>>2691873
>tfw slowdown out the ass on R-Type Final

>> No.2692121

>>2692115
>it's OK when CAVE does it

>> No.2692126

>>2691885
retro 3d is what makes it GOAT, jerk

>> No.2692227

>>2691873
too bad it sucks compared to Einhander

>> No.2692458

>>2692121
That's because Keibu is bullet hell.

>> No.2692553

>>2692227

Einhander is boring, casual garbage. Go back to your melodrama JRPG shit, you Squarebaby.

>> No.2693271

Hi /vr/ I dont generally post here
I googled best shmups and found a thread in the shmups.system forum, it seems like most of the best shmups are games with Japanese names I dont recognize from the late 90s or non retro era, made by Treasure or Cave.
Isnt it a bit unusual? It felt weird to see that R Type was the only "old" shmup in a top 25 list.
I am 31 and I am pretty sure shmups where much more popular when I was a kid than around the year 2000, at least in the west.
I guess they continued being popular in Japan, that is why the genre peaked after the PS1/Saturn generation.

Are non bullet hell shmups still being made?

>> No.2693286

>>2692553
>Einhander is boring, casual garbage.
show your scores then bitch

the game was very good, one of the best horis tbh

>> No.2693559

>>2692553
>Einhander is boring, casual garbage.
What a load of bollocks you clueless arsehole. The game is deep as fuck with strats and secrets to get decent scores going along with a god tier ost and awesome cinematics.

>> No.2693582

>>2693271
>Are non bullet hell shmups still being made?
Satazius, Hydorah, Jets 'n Guns, Sine Mora, Astebreed, Last Hope, Redux, Sturmwind
Prolly more.
Also, there are a lot of horizontal style shooters on PS2.

>> No.2693585

>>2693271
Japan is a sick, deranged place. You probably want to ignore anything coming from there.

>> No.2693762

Just some observations after playing the shit out of some R-Type games over the weekend

>R-Type 1
Beautiful game. Perfection. Not hard at all, if you know a couple tricks beforehand.

>R-Type 3
The slowdowns really bother me...

>R-Type Leo
First 2-3 stages are nice, but the game gets monotonous.

How is R-Type 2?

>> No.2693973

>>2693762
Here are my observations

>R-Type 1
too hard I keep dying

is it possible to play R-Type 1 on a Nintendo DS or is the emulation not there yet

basically I need to be practicing this every hour of the day wherever I am

>> No.2693981

How important is the rank in Batrider? Is hoarding bombs and constantly grabbing power-ups harmful like in Battle Garegga?

>> No.2694207

>>2693981
>How important is the rank in Batrider?
Very, it's way more strategy intensive than garegga with suicides and character orders all needing to be planned out to activate secret bosses and control rank, it also has more milking and bomb tricks.

>> No.2694237

tfw can barely beat crimson clover on novice

>> No.2694248
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2694248

>>2694237

Keep practicing anon. Though I will say that the jump in difficulty between novice and arcade is pretty huge. Arcade original is a really tough game.

>> No.2694378

anybody here play with a stick? any recommendations? I'm thinking of picking up a hori

>> No.2694401

>>2694378
i have a hrap v5 w/ stock parts and its pretty nice

>> No.2694417

>>2694401
nice! Did it take you a long time to get used to it? Never played shooters on a stick..only fighting games.

>> No.2694421

>>2694417
not really, even for fighting games it felt natural when i first tried it, but its different for everyone

>> No.2694443

>>2694421
Thanks for the feedback! I will pick one up soon!

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2694590

>>2691515
yah

>> No.2694597

>>2694590
where'd you buy the cab and how much did it cost? i'm kicking around the idea of buying one for myself

>> No.2694612

>>2694597
FIrst cab I got in a group buy that was a disaster, paid like $550 + shipping + another $500 or so restoring it to be perfect. Second cab I got from a friend in another state for $350 without a control panel and a wonky monitor. Didn't care about that part since I had a spare NOS Nanao MS9 and multiple control panels. Basically look to spend around $1000 plus to get a good working cab with shipping

>> No.2694649

>>2691515
Yeah. As far as retro shmups go, I have Salamander, Gradius 2, Gradius 3 (world or Euro, not sure what it is called, but not the Japanese one), Nemesis (seems to be a conversion), Silk Worm, Sonic Wings 2, Macross, and Strikers 1945 II.

>> No.2694668

>>2693762
>How is R-Type 2?
Harder than the others.

>> No.2694685

>>2694237
>>2694248
i'm stuck on the stage 4 battleship. the real, arcade difficulty

>> No.2694783

>>2694590
Whats youre best score on batrider?

>> No.2694994

>>2693585
>ignoring half the games posted on this board