Castlevania Thread

[Anonymous No.2672715]

Why is this game so GOOD? It strips all the weebshit from Rondo of Blood and actually makes the game more challenging. Dracula X is so much better than RoB, quite possibly one of the best entries in the whole series.

What'd you think of it, /vr/?

[Anonymous No.2672729]

>>2672715
>being this hipster, enjoy your shitty waste of 190 dollars

[Anonymous No.2672738]

>>2672715
What's the point of making all these Castlevania threads to make other Castlevania fans angry?

I don't get it, most of the Castlevania games are great for different reasons. There's no point to be such an ass.

[Anonymous No.2672749]

challenging gameplay in Dracula X means shitty level design

[Anonymous No.2672764]

>>2672749
To be honest i didn't find the game that hard except for the final boss. That being said, the level design is just uninspired and samey corridors, it has that sense of "i have seen this before".

[Anonymous No.2673076]

>>2672749
Mostly enemy placement. The bats would spawn right on me. I never had that problem in a Casltevania game because they would spawn on the far side from me. How the fuck am I suppose to avoid something that just spawns on me? Those lancers are tedious as well, especially if you are coming from a lower position on them.

This game just wasn't fun.

[Anonymous No.2673109]

>>2672715
>Dracula X is so much better than RoB
There's fanboyism and then there's outright mental illness.

[Anonymous No.2673139]

>>2672738
Seriously. /vr/ generally is a chill place for people to enjoy old fun games. Why are all of the recent Castlevania threads /v/-tier trash?

[Anonymous No.2673160]

>>2672715
>Why is this game so GOOD?
Because you're a try hard hipster looking for a shitposting contest.

[Anonymous No.2673212]

CastleBait: Triggula X

[Anonymous No.2673282]

I agree OP is a faggot for starting YET ANOTHER Castlevania thread with "x is the best in the series, your favorite is weebshit" shitposting, but you're all equally hipster faggots for defending so vehemently MUH JAPANESE-ONRY RONDO OF BROOD (yes I know it's on VC and PSP).

Dracula X is a really good entry in the series, one of the hardest too (fuck off with the "bad level design" meme).

Anyway, fuck you all, I hate the Castlevania fanbase these days.... CV fans used to be cool...

[Anonymous No.2673284]

>>2673282
>but you're all equally hipster faggots for defending so vehemently MUH JAPANESE-ONRY RONDO OF BROOD

[Anonymous No.2673287]

>>2672738

OP already made this thread about a week ago. He's either trolling at this point, or he's this autistic and needs /vr/ to validate his preference for some reason.

Just sage and hide.

[Anonymous No.2673289]

which one /vr/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR0UjAQIX6E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzrvBANyArs

The PC Engine one sounds less sample-y naturally since it's CD audio, but I really like the work the Konami sound team did on the SNES version, I think it actually sounds better, maybe it's the small arrangements they added to it (love that guitar bits like in 0:26 which isn't on the Rondo version).

I like both games :(

[Anonymous No.2673291]

>>2673287

He did? the last Castlevania threads I remember were from a Bloodlines fag who wanted to shit on IV.
Maybe there's more than 1 CV shitposter, or maybe he changes his tactics.

[Anonymous No.2673452]

>>2672738
Generally speaking, Castlevania fans has always been kinda shitty on 4chan because they always bitch about what the best Casltevania is.

[Anonymous No.2673475]

Classicvanias >>> Symphony >>> GBAvanias >>>>>>>> shit >>>>>> DSvanias >>>>>>>>>>>> 3Dvanias

[Anonymous No.2673494]

>>2672715
Suck my dick OP.

[Anonymous No.2673496]

rondo
>platinum
castlevania 3
>gold
castlevania 1
>silver
castlevania 4
>clay
dracula x
>bile

[Anonymous No.2673501]

>>2673494

That looks awful for being a CRT, are you emulating?

[Anonymous No.2673502]

>>2673496

I know Platinum, but they didn't made any Castlevania.
With Gold I assume you mean U.S. Gold, but as far as I know, they didn't do any shitty DOS port of Castlevania, thankfully.
Don't know any of the other ones.

[Anonymous No.2673503]

>>2672738

A lot of /vr/ hasn't shedded its console war/my game is better than your game/etc attitude well into their 20s-30s

[Anonymous No.2673504]

>>2673496

I'll never undestand people that claim to like the NES Castlevanias, but then say they like Rondo the most, and hate Dracula X.

Posers and casuals.

[Anonymous No.2673505]

>>2673503

You forgot a lot of people are also young teens who are getting into retrogaming through Youtube and take their stance on the franchise depending on their favorite e-celeb's tastes.

Also another thing to have into account is the collectors, they will defend the games they own physically more than the ones they don't.

Basically, Castlevania discussion is dead these days, it's deader than the actual franchise.

[Anonymous No.2673507]

>>2673475
POR is top tier should be in with symphony inb4 not retro
I pretty much agree with you.

[Anonymous No.2673519]

>>2673504
alright chillidog come back to us when you've beaten the NES titles

[Anonymous No.2673520]

>>2673519

Why do you assume I didn't?

[Anonymous No.2673521]

Never understood the hype around RoB. The level design is bland as shit and the game lacks any difficulty.

Dracula X is pretty good though, not as good as 3 or Chronicles but still a top game.

[Anonymous No.2673524]

>>2673520
because you didn't.

[Anonymous No.2673525]

>>2673521

I really like Rondo of Blood, but yeah I'll never understand the hype around it, I guess it's just because it was an exotic japan-only game for so long.
Dracula X is pretty good and I'll never understand the hate for it either.

[Anonymous No.2673530]

>>2673524

Alright, it's evident you really want quality discussion here. Truly a newfag Castlevania fan.

[Anonymous No.2673532]

>mfw I love both classicvanias and metroidvanias
Fite me.

[Anonymous No.2673535]

>>2673532
Me too. The only thing I dislike about Metroidvanias is the weeb artstyle of some games. SotN had the right balance. Aria of Sorrow went overboard.

[Anonymous No.2673541]

Stuck at 200.0%.

Dafuck devs, this was supposed to the max percentage. Fuck that

[Anonymous No.2673543]

>>2673535

Aria of Sorrow was just like SotN.

Dawn of Sorrow is the one that went overboard. And portrait of ruin. They are still good games, it's just that style. Order of Ecclesia is better on that regard for example.

I also don't like Circle of the Moon's westernized shit

[Anonymous No.2673549]

>>2673541

The casuals in /vr/'s favorite youtuber show Game Suck also claim 200.4% is the highest, but it's actually 200.6%

Honestly though? it's not worth it, nothing unlocks if you complete it. Other than the satisfacion of saying "nice, I was autismal enough to have reached every single corner in this castle".
Be aware that the Dracula room counts, so if you just beat the game, it won't save the data. You will need to go fight dracula, and then use the library card to teleport out of it.

[Anonymous No.2673560]

>>2673501
No and it's fine, doesn't come out well in pics.

[Anonymous No.2673561]

[Anonymous No.2673563]

I prefer the classic castlevanias because I don't like the metroidvania genre. I'm the kind of person that likes to have a clear objective (such as the end of a level or a boss) instead of exploring and having to wonder "Now where do I fucking go?" in games. This is why, out of the moderm castlevanias I liked Order of Eclessia despite not being the best by far

Castlevania III on the nes is my favorite classic one

[Anonymous No.2673564]

>>2673561
i don't get it

how do you know castlevania fans then weren't faggots?

[Anonymous No.2673567]

>>2673560
is it via wii at 480p? that tv looks like a HD CRT.

otherwise your rondo 240p via PCE is being upscaled to 480p and that will cause lag and unfavorable artifacts

[Anonymous No.2673568]

>>2673564

The internet wasn't as mainstream and big as it is now so you just didn't hear about people's shitty irrelevant opinions as much as you do now. People actually played the games, and not for retro-cred, etc

[Anonymous No.2673572]

>>2673561
What's with the robot on the bottom left? Robots have no place in classic Castlevania.

[Anonymous No.2673573]

>>2673567
It isn't HD and it's on original hardware.

[Anonymous No.2673574]

>>2673568
you have a point, although I couldn't care less about how the fans are, unless they make me look bad directly (infamy by association)

[Anonymous No.2673575]

>>2673572

It's bait to spot younglings like you :)

[Anonymous No.2673586]

>>2672738
On the plus side, this thread is pointing out OP's faggotry instead of falling for the bait, so maybe there's still hope

[Anonymous No.2673589]

>>2673586

All the other CV threads have been the same though, there wasn't any other CV thread here on /vr/ where OP wasn't a faggot in a long time as far as I remember.

[Anonymous No.2673597]

>>2672715
It's basically Rondo with (relatively) sluggish controls.

[Anonymous No.2673604]

>>2673597

"dracula X is a bad port of Rondo" is my favorite Castlevania fandom meme

[Anonymous No.2673605]

>>2673604
Let's say it's a mediocre game inspired in Rondo then.

[Anonymous No.2673608]

>>2673605

Let's not. I actually like Dracula X more than Rondo for being more similar to the NES games than any other 16 bit CV game.
I still like Rondo, but it's never been my favorite or close to it.

Then again, I was lucky enough to have played all these games back then when they came out in their original systems. Maybe I'd also have meme opinions if all I knew about CV was based on Youtube and playing bits of all the games on emulators using save states, who knows.

[Anonymous No.2673613]

ITT:
>hipster
>weeb
>challenge
>edgemasters

[Anonymous No.2673617]

>>2673608
>you have a meme opinion and watch youtubers because i prefer a shitty unpopular game
kek, the worst kind of hipster.

[Anonymous No.2673618]

>>2673608
Just because someone uses emulators doesn't mean they use save states. If you seriously can't help cheating in a video game just because you have the option, then that's your problem. Don't just assume that everyone else has it.

[Anonymous No.2673623]

>>2673617
>kek kik kuk XDDD

fuck off.

>hipster shitty unpopular

I played Dracula X back in release, faggot. Probably been playing 'vania for longer than you've been alive.

>>2673618
I agree with you actually, but I'm taking the freedom to assume people who parrot the whole "drac X is a bad port of Rondo" are save state scum. They're faggots anyway since they didn't even play the game.

>>2673613
Pretty spot on, except hipsters are new to the CV fandom, and I wish they would leave.

[Anonymous No.2673625]

>>2673623
>I played Dracula X back in release, faggo

And how that prove anything you retarded piece of shit? the only think it proves is that you have nostalgia attached to a mediocre game.

[Anonymous No.2673626]

>>2673625

It proves that I don't like it because it's unpopular, but because I actually PLAYED the game, unlike, you know, hipsters like you who parrot things like "dracula X is mediocre" like their youtube e-celebs told them.

[Anonymous No.2673628]

>>2673625

Dracula X is not mediocre yo, it's a very decent classicvania that gets a bad reputation for being unfairly compared to Rondo of Blood, when they're not even the same games aside from plot and characters.

I find it very unlikely that any fan of the classic games will say Dracula X is mediocre. It's as good as classicvania goes.

[Anonymous No.2673629]

>>2673623
>I played Dracula X back in release, faggot. Probably been playing 'vania for longer than you've been alive.

[Anonymous No.2673634]

>>2673626
And why do you assume i haven't beat the game and only watched it from youtubers? what a sad bag of shit you are nostaltard, desperately defending his underdog game.

>>2673628
By mediocre i mean worse than CV1, 3, 4 Bloodlines, Rondo and 68k, but not as bad as Adventure or Legends. It's decent, but a very generic title.

[Anonymous No.2673642]

>>2673634

I liked Dracula X better than Bloodlines, IV and Rondo. I guess it's time to accept you might have an opinion, but your opinion is not fact.
Dracula X is as good as any other classic CV, it doesn't lack anything.

People will often say things like "bad level design" or "stiff controls" but I don't know, "stiff controls" is something that's part of Castlevania, I didn't feel like there was anything wrong with DX's controls, they're slightly different than Rondo of Blood, but that's why they're not the same game. Like how Simon in CV1 doesn't control the same as him on Chronicles, but they're still both good CV games.
As for "bad level design", I honestly felt this was a problem from Rondo of Blood, not Dracula X:
Rondo has great bosses, and some clever level design in the form of secrets, but overall it felt a bit so-so. Dracula X has great level design from the start, it keeps you on your toes all the time, no time to get bored or wander aimlessly looking for Maria (although you knew that you actually do have branching paths and you can rescue all 4 maidens on DX? not many people know this, but DX is not as linear as most people think, and you can rescue Maria and the rest, you just can't unlock the easy Maria modo).

But I digress.

Basically, I feel it's a shame how DX gets shit all the time for no reason, when most of the complaints about it can be done to other games in the series, especially the beloved Rondo who nobody dares to criticize.

[Anonymous No.2673656]

Are Castlevania threads the worst threads on /vr/?

[Anonymous No.2673659]

>>2673642
>>2673642
The lacks unique aesthetics, reused enemies and mostly reused bosses is what makes DX meh, it just feels like an expansion pack more than an standalone Castlevania game, and not a very good one. As for the level design, it's not bad, but there is nothing special about it, standard-fare castlevania filled with corridors with knights and some platforming here and there.
Last boss is boring as shit too, not necessarily very hard, but very tedious, because of how long the battle is doing the same shit again and again.

[Anonymous No.2673663]

>>2673656
no way

[Anonymous No.2673664]

>>2673659
>reused bosses

Like this one from the very first level?: >>2673282

[Anonymous No.2673679]

>>2673659
>The lacks unique aesthetics

CV III pretty much looks like an updated Castlevania 1 though, and the changes on Dracula X are relevant enough, actually only the first level is the only one that looks a lot like the first level of Rondo, with an added mode 7 effect on the background.
But then the rest of the game I think has a distinct aesthetic that, while very similar to Rondo, is really not the same. It does have unique aesthetics. I'll also say I think the background graphics on DX are better than the ones in Rondo, which I think are too simple (lots of levels have plain backgrounds with brick walls or just pitch black like early Famicom games, stage 3 comes to mind).

>As for the level design, it's not bad, but there is nothing special about it, standard-fare castlevania filled with corridors with knights and some platforming here and there.

Sounds like Castlevania to me. I never got why people COMPLAIN about this. Yes, Castlevania is about corridors, fighting knights and overcoming platforming segments. What's bad about it?
I keep hearing people complain about this, but they never give proper examples. As I said I think Rondo has worse level design than DX except for the secrets. Most of Rondo I feel it's pretty boring and I just want to get to the boss, while in DX I enjoy the whole ride.

>Last boss is boring as shit too

But not as boring as the dead AI that is the Rondo final boss.

Now don't get me wrong, I love Rondo, but I'm playing the devil's advocate a bit, because I think DX is undeservedly underrated and hated, just because it's not Rondo of Blood.

[Anonymous No.2673691]

>>2673679
I think you completely forgot the part where Dracula X reused the enemies and most bosses from Rondo, making it just a expansion pack than an actual unique game like Rondo.

"Yes, Castlevania is about corridors, fighting knights and overcoming platforming segments. What's bad about it? "
The problem is that most games in the series overcome this with slightly different level design and different enemies, Dracula X just feels like a rehash of earlier ideas, samey corridors and samey caves all the time with the same enemies from Rondo.

>But not as boring as the dead AI that is the Rondo final boss.
I would say both final bosses are equally disappointing, Rondo's final boss is too easy, and DX's Dracula was too boring and repetitive, the AI was just as dead, he just had more HP. Still, i have to go with Rondo because it's not very appealing to do the same shit again and again for 8 minutes when fighting a boss.

[Anonymous No.2673714]

>>2673691

I didn't forget that, but I think the fact they used the same sprites doesn't automatically means the game is bad.
A lot of the enemies on CV 1 and III also look and act the same, so what? Konami has reused assets for Castlevania many times.
But I get your point, and I'm not trying to say DX is 100% different from Rondo, clearly DX couldn't have existed without Rondo, at least not the way it is, but the fact it uses assets from Rondo doesn't automatically invalidates it from being a good Castlevania.
I know the popular thing to say is "Rondo is GOAT, DX is just a bad port", but I couldn't disagree more, Rondo is a fantastic game, but not GOAT, and Dracula X is, in my opinion, at least on par with Rondo of Blood (I think it's better, but I can understand if some people prefer Rondo for its unique features like saving, being able to replay levels, and play as Maria).
But even if they used the same enemy sprites, the placement is not the same. On the very first level of DX you've got medusa heads already. The important thing is not that Richter sprite or the knight sprites are the same, but that the whole game, level design and enemy placement, is different.
Many bosses are also completely new or have different patterns than in Rondo. I actually prefer the bosses in Rondo though, but DX's bosses are not bad at all.

>Dracula X just feels like a rehash of earlier ideas, samey corridors and samey caves all the time with the same enemies from Rondo.

But you didn't feel this with Rondo of Blood? it reused a lot of ideas from earlier Castlevania games and has a lot of samey corridors with boring enemy placement, at least things are a bit spiced up in DX. Also, DX has more vertical action ala CVIII, which I enjoyed.

[Anonymous No.2673719]

>>2673282
CV fans used to be cool because CV used to be good.

Now, like so many of our once beloved series, developers/publishers have lost the vibe, tone, mechanics, even the themes that once made it great.

They've turned it into another AAA mainstream-audience dime-a-dozen action game, and as long as it looks like something you would see unironically accompanied by a linkin park soundtrack, it will keep selling to the bigger normalfag audience and it will never go back to the way it used to be.

But shit, even in the "good old days", the ultimate battle over whether metroidvanias were better than classicvanias raged on.

The weird part is that I can't even think of a way to save the series. Aside from ending the new canon and going back to the old one (WHERE'S MY JULIUS BELMONT BATTLE OF 1999 IGARASHI?), I can't really think of a way to use newer mechanics while keeping the parts that made older Castlevanias great.

It seems too late to make more side-scroller titles, and we already have a flood of those for portables.

To be completely honest, I really liked the Lament of Innocence / Curse of Darkness style of 3D castlevania. It was basically just a direct 3D rendition of a metroidvania, optional grinding for shitloads of collectable equipment included. But I know that more games like that just wouldn't sell today. Hell, they wouldn't even make it to the market.

[Anonymous No.2673727]

>>2673719

>But shit, even in the "good old days", the ultimate battle over whether metroidvanias were better than classicvanias raged on.

Yes, but CV fandom became shittier, and like the Final Fantasy fandom, it's no longer a battle of "old vs new", now it's "my favorite iteration is the GREATEST OF THEM ALL AND YOUR FAVORITE ON SUCKS! SUUUUUUCKSSSS!"

I also liked Lament (haven't played Cuse of Darkness), and I also liked the N64 castlevanias for what they were.

[Anonymous No.2673728]

>>2673521
>>2673525

The hype mainly comes from the fact that it was mostly unknown in North America until the internet made its existence common knowledge.

Everyone had only ever played Dracula X, and thought it was awesome and looked/sounded really good. However, Rondo of Blood was the original, and better version in almost every way. People who were in the know have always been very quick to inform people that Rondo is basically the better version of X. This, combined with the fact that Rondo is a rare game for an even rarer console and was the original japanese vision for the game/series all adds to the hype surrounding it.

[Anonymous No.2673730]

>>2673728

Yeah but it's 2015, you'd think most people have already played both games and are able to decide for themselves.
Back then most people didn't have the chance, so they'd just accept what people "in the know" would tell them, that Rondo was better and that DX was a bad port, but now it's time to accept this was a lie, and Dracula X is not the same game, and is still a pretty solid entry in the classicvania library.

[Anonymous No.2673736]

>>2673727
>I also liked the N64 castlevanias for what they were.

I liked the N64 CVs too. Well, I loved the second one since it's basically an expansion of the first. They were fun, had good length, and managed a good balance between combat, platforming, and minor puzzle-solving. The only real issue with them is that the camera controls were really awkward, which turned most people off before they could finish the first level.

They will never know the joy of unlocking Henry, one of my top 3 favorite CV characters.

[Anonymous No.2673741]

>>2673730
All true, but old habits (and myths) die hard.

Hell, we're still circumcising children in North America because some prudish pesudo-celebrity quack in 1880 said it will stop them from masturbating.

[Anonymous No.2673742]

>>2673730
>Yeah but it's 2015, you'd think most people have already played both games and are able to decide for themselves.
I already decided that Rondo was a better games, but if i do that all you shitters do is call me a youtube kid who use save-states

[Anonymous No.2673747]

>>2673742

I didn't meant that, if you think Rondo or DX is better, that's OK, it's your own taste.
I mean that DX is a "bad port of rondo", that was a lie, and it's still something that people parrot.

[Anonymous No.2673887]

>>2673714
pleb

[Anonymous No.2673916]

>>2673887

OG Maria is super cute and super stacked. Like ridiculously stacked.

[Anonymous No.2673918]

>>2673887
>waifushit in castlevania
truly the death knell of the series, before igavania raped its corpse

[Anonymous No.2673929]

>>2673887

>Akihiro Yamada
>pleb

I like the silly Rondo animu designs as much as the next guy, but make no mistake, Yamada's art is superior.

[Anonymous No.2675014]

Which do you all prefer? Bloodlines or Super 4

[Anonymous No.2675019]

>>2675014

The one that's less popular to increase my hardcore hipster retro cred/on my favorite childhood console/on my collection which I paid hundreds of dollars off ebay so I must defend as if it was my own life/

[Anonymous No.2675034]

>>2675014
IV because:
>Simon
>8 direction whipping goodness
>GOAT music
>Nice levels
>Once you get Dracula's health down to mid bar SIMON'S THEME FUCKING OVERRIDES HIS THEME HOLY SHIT

Bloodlines just doesn't have what it takes and all the little changes like no hearts are pretty gay, some of the levels are cool though, high tier Castlevania all in all.

[Anonymous No.2675082]

>>2673561
That goes for pretty much every popular retro series fandom though.

[Anonymous No.2675094]

>>2673887
Wow, even back then the series was pandering to weebs and pedos.

[Anonymous No.2675573]

>>2673505
i dont get why your so salty, they know more about retro gaming then me so i follow them, it just WORKS

stay mad faggot

jontron ftw arinfags get rekt

[Anonymous No.2675578]

>>2673532
Me too. I even enjoy the 3Dvanias and think Lords of Shadow is the best out of that bunch.

[Anonymous No.2675584]

>>2673663
You appear to be agitated.

[Anonymous No.2675625]

>>2675014
Bloodlines, it feels more of an action game than 4, which i like. I still like 4, just not as much.

[Anonymous No.2675634]

>>2673505
>and take their stance on the franchise depending on their favorite e-celeb's tastes
I don't think that's really as widespread as you people say it is.

[Anonymous No.2675665]

Not sure if baiting or just blatantly shitposting, OP.


BUT, the game was good... to its own merits, which, by the way, were few.

It definitely does have an amazing OST though.

[Anonymous No.2675678]

>>2675634

I don't think you're in contact with many kids/teens.

I also thought the whole e-celeb/youtube craze was just contrarians and anti-socials on 4chan being paranoid, but it really did get big.

[Anonymous No.2675779]

>>2675678
Kids and teens fandom opinions online should always be disregarded. They suck at making objective opinions.

[Anonymous No.2675841]

Still trying to figure out how people can like a game that was cannibalized from a different, superior game. Its as if OP only has access to a SNES and MUST defend this pile of shit since he is unable to play the true, superior version of it. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.2675842]

>>2673109

>There's fanboyism and then there's outright trolling.

fix'd

[Anonymous No.2675849]

>>2675841

>cannibalized

You're not using that word correctly

>different

yes, now you're Correct

>superior

eh... neither Rondo or Dracula X are my favorites, really, but if I had to choose, Dracula X it is, it feels more like the NES CV1 and 3, Rondo is just too easy.

>Its as if OP only has access to a SNES

What? You can play Rondo of Blood in any toaster or even any phone today. Actually owning a SNES and a Dracula X cartidge is less likely as it's very expensive, it's cheaper (actually free) to just emulate them, and in that case, you can emulate both games, who cares.

>the true, superior version of it

But... you said it was a different game before, why are you going back to being wrong at the end of your post?

[Anonymous No.2675860]

>>2675849

These may be good points, but since you prefer DracX to Rondo I have no choice but disregard and ignore everything you have said.

[Anonymous No.2675863]

>>2675860

The good thing though is that it's possible to enjoy both. You don't HAVE to hate one because you like the other, you can like both because they are different games.

This whole hyperbole black and white extremism in the castlevania fanbase is nauseating.

[Anonymous No.2675883]

>>2675863

The reason I dislike X is because it is uninspired garbage produced for no other reason than to make a quick buck off the Castlevania name. I guarantee this game would not get as much hate as it does if it had been developed as it's own game instead of reusing sprites and art from a vastly superior game.

[Anonymous No.2675903]

>>2675883

I think it's retarded to dislike or hate a game just because "it's not this other game that I think it's superior" (because, again, that's just an opinion, a popular one, but still an opinion and can be debated with actual good points, which was already done ITT).
If it was meant to be a quick buck off the Castlevania name, then they could have just copypasted the Rondo levels and somehow adapt them to the SNES hardware. Instead, they made a completely new game, while reusing some concepts and designs from Rondo.
I really don't get it. I'm not the biggest Rondo or DX fan, but if I liked one or the other that much, I'd be like "amazing, I've got 2 different games with the same style and setting to play". But instead, all you do all the time is "waaah DX sucks because it's bad port of Rondo! Rondo SUPERIOR! SUPERIOR JAPAN ONLY GAME!"

[Anonymous No.2675969]

>>2675883
>vastly superior game.

Because it has super awkward voice acting and a cutsy anime art style ? From a gameplay point of view, it's pretty boring. At least DX tries to offer some classical gameplay. And if we talk about reusing assets: Other CV did it too. Even SotN used RoB assets.

Let's be honest here, the only reason why it's held in higher regard is because it was a high hanging fruit for years.

[Anonymous No.2675996]

Dracula X is a 7/10
Rondo is a 8.5/10

[Anonymous No.2676013]

>>2675996

give some insight to that, random numbers don't tell anything to me... what makes you rate these games that way?

[Anonymous No.2676019]

>>2676013
How much i enjoyed them

[Anonymous No.2676026]

>>2675969

Ok but broken level design does not equate to a superior gameplay experience. The game was pieced together by amateurs, I'm sure the dev team was inexperienced.

[Anonymous No.2676038]

>>2676026

>broken level design

Broken? please explain, I've played through Dracula X several times and I never got any "broken" experience.

>pieced together by amateurs, dev team was inexperienced

Nice facts pulled out of your ass, the Dracula X team were all Konami veterans that worked on previous castlevanias, goemon, contra, etc.

[Anonymous No.2676073]

>>2672764
>final boss
>hard

umm... use the axe

he's extremely easy

[Anonymous No.2676076]

>>2676073
It's not that hard, but doing the same shit again and again for almost 10 minutes is awful for a final boss.

[Anonymous No.2676109]

>>2676038

>the Dracula X team were all Konami veterans that worked on previous castlevanias, goemon, contra, etc.

[citation needed]

And leave my ass outta this baby

[Anonymous No.2676115]

>>2676109

You're this dense?

http://www.mobygames.com/game/castlevania-dracula-x

[Anonymous No.2676117]

>>2676115

>Developed by Konami Co., Ltd.

This says nothing about any single person who did any work on this abomination. Try again.

[Anonymous No.2676119]

>>2676117

Pro tip: click on the individual staff members to the right side of the page.
You never browsed mobygames?

[Anonymous No.2676125]

>>2676117
>on this abomination

delicious memes! I bet you never actually played a single Castlevania game in your life, all based on Youtubers!

[Anonymous No.2676129]

>>2676117

you are very, very stupid.

I'm surprised you're even able to post on an image board at all without getting lost.

[Anonymous No.2676139]

>/vr/ hates on rondo of blood
for what purpose?

[Anonymous No.2676142]

>>2676117
>abomination

[Anonymous No.2676213]

>>2676139
>38 posters
>116 replies

It's just butthurt Dracula X fans.

[Anonymous No.2676234]

Castlevania 3 is better than both games anyway.

[Anonymous No.2676529]

>>2673452
Not always. There was a time when /v/ (not /vr/) would have late night Castlevania threads which usually broke down into people posting their favorite music in the series and usually sharing Castlevania art. What was strange was that people typically posted what their favorite Castlevanias were and why. Virtually everyone agreed that all of the Castlevanias were good and that Classicvanias and Metroidvanias were both good for different reasons.

Those days may seem long dead, but like Dracula they can always return.

[Anonymous No.2676554]

>>2676529
Sounds like circlejerking bullshit to me anon. Neo-Castlevania threads are much more interesting.

[Anonymous No.2676667]

Rondo of Blood is, in my opinion, the best Classicvania, and it's up there in contest to be THE best Castlevania game.

That said, it has (for me) one big flaw and that is its super kawaii artstyle... Then again, Castlevania struggled to find its definitive artstyle until SotN. Take a look at the covers from SC4 or C2, Simon looks like a Golden Axe reject.

Dracula X is a great game tho. I think some people hate it because is "cool" to do that and say how different is from RoB (which is actually kind of true). I personally think that it just loses when directly compared to RoB.
That said most of the Classicvanias are, at worse, 7/10 games. SotN is amazing however I always felt like they stopped trying after it. The others "metroidvanias" are boring and, basically, SotN but without being SotN, whereas the Classicvanias always felt very different from each other and kind of "unique".

My 2 cents

[Anonymous No.2676669]

>>2676554
australians are crazy confrontative for some reason

[Anonymous No.2676693]

>>2676076
That's called bad game design.

[Anonymous No.2676709]

>>2676667
>best Classicvania (Rondo) has cutesy anime artstyle which alienates some players
>best Metroidvania (Dawn of Sorrow) has cutesy anime artstyle which alienates some players
Funny stuff.

[Anonymous No.2676734]

>>2676709
dawn of sorrow was the second worst metroidvania though

[Anonymous No.2676736]

>>2676734
Says who?

[Anonymous No.2676746]

>>2676736
>soul farming out the ass to get the good ending
>have to draw with the shitty stylus to kill bosses
>no more glorious kojima artwork
>rehash of a better game, Aria

it was shite, mate

[Anonymous No.2676749]

>>2676709
>Dawn of Sorrow
>Best
Nope


>Re-used graphics up the ass
>Best

[Anonymous No.2676751]

>>2676734
>>2676746
>>2676749
and then there's these edgy hipsters

[Anonymous No.2676757]

>>2676751
>He disagrees with me.

>Therefore he must be a hipster who goes against the grain.

[Anonymous No.2676982]

>>2676139

Huh? Who is hating on Rondo? I love Rondo, I'm just a bit more down to earth than most "fans" and accept that the game is not as perfect as some people say, and that the level design is not 100% perfect, I think the exploration aspects they wanted to implement got in the way to deliver a 100% action-packed Castlevania feel, but it's still pretty much great anyway, the bosses are all great.
The game that's getting hate and actually getting called "shit" or "abomination" for no reason other than "the internet told me to hate it" is Dracula X.

>>2676554

>discussing something without /v/-tier shitposting is circlejerk

memes, memes and more memes!

[Anonymous No.2676997]

>>2676076
>>2676693

Just get good, you can defeat him in under 5 minutes without using any subweapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9FX95aFyr4

[Anonymous No.2677050]

>>2676749
>implying every other Castlevania didn't recycle graphics like mad

[Anonymous No.2677056]

>>2676751

>edgy hipster

top kek m8. DoS is worse than AoS, and that shit is on a GBA. Also,

>no hammer shop theme

Automatic minus 4 points out 10.

[Anonymous No.2677058]

>>2676751
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.2677149]

>>2677058
You quoted the wrong guy, m8. Let me fix that for you.

>>2677056
>>2676734
>>2676746
>>2676749
>>2676757

[Anonymous No.2677152]

>>2677056
>and that shit is on a GBA
So?

[Anonymous No.2677168]

>>2676746
>soul farming out the ass to get the good ending
I like soul farming.

>have to draw with the shitty stylus to kill bosses
I didn't mind the stylus

>no more glorious kojima artwork
>glorious
>kojima artowk

>rehash of a better game, Aria
every Castlevania game is a rehash of each other

there are only 2 factors for judging a Castlevania game:
>is the gameplay fluid?
>is the atmosphere solid?

if the answer to both of those is yes, then it's a good CS game

if the answer to only one of those is yes, then it's a mediocre for CS standards game but still a solid game on it's own rights

if the answer to none of those is yes then it's not a Castlevania game

[Anonymous No.2677173]

>>2677050
>Implying Aria of Sorrow (aka the best Metroidvania) recycled graphics

[Anonymous No.2677176]

>>2677149

>if I say a shitty game is shitty I must go to other board

Sure m8 as you wish m8

>>2677152

DS could do way better than Dawn of Sorrows.

[Anonymous No.2677180]

>>2677152
Circle of the Moon is underrated.

[Anonymous No.2677216]

>>2677152

Is that a bad port of Rondo of Blood?

[Anonymous No.2677220]

>>2677216
That's Circle of the Moon, you bombastic moron.

[Anonymous No.2677223]

>>2677216
Rondofags make me sick.

[Anonymous No.2677364]

Rondo of Blood is garbage

- Anime shit

-a little girl who throws pigeons is stronger and better than a legendary vampire hunter

-a little girl can kill dracula with pigeons

[Anonymous No.2677371]

>>2677216

Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.2677427]

This game is bad and you should feel bad for liking it.

[Anonymous No.2677430]

>>2677364

>- Anime shit
>definition of 'anime' is 'Japanese animation'
>every single Japanese 2D game is a form of Japanese animation
>being this retarded

[Anonymous No.2677436]

>>2677364
Nice b8

[Anonymous No.2677439]

>>2677427

What game?

[Anonymous No.2677447]

>>2677439
You know, the popular one!

[Anonymous No.2677450]

>>2677447

Oh, yeah absolutely, I agree, it sucks.

[Anonymous No.2678591]

>>2677152
Circle of the Moon has the best castle out of the GBA bunch.

[Anonymous No.2679610]

>>2678591
Sorry guys, I meant to say Aria of Sorrow.

[Anonymous No.2680345]

I like dracula x alot also it's a decent entry let's just leave it at that. So which weapons are best for the bosses in this game?

[Anonymous No.2680649]

>>2679610
No, I fucking didn't, you quantum nigger!

Circle of the Moon had the best map layout out of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.2680750]

I've only played the first few levels so far, but
>actually makes the game more challenging
It seems like so far a lot of the level design is bullshit.

>the collapsing platforms while mermen pop up in front of you
You can just spam the cross they give you to get by, but you don't really know that unless you've gone through already.
>knight on the edge of a platform by the stairs you have to jump from
It sort of encourages you to not jump up there to take out the armored knight. Punishing you even. You end up just hanging out by the stairs waiting for the knight to get as close to the edge as possible so you can whip him.
A lot of shit ends up hitting you multiple times too due to the insanely smal linvincibility time. The bat boss, Medusa heads, etc.

I do appreciate the verticality in the levels that Rondo of Blood certainly lacked.

[Anonymous No.2680867]

>>2673561
That's a fuck ugly Snes controller. What happened to the buttons.

[Anonymous No.2681040]

>>2677220
Shit gameplay system.

[Anonymous No.2681058]

>>2673475
agreed with this post. thinking of starting a new game of Symphony of the night. It's a great game, but the NES/SNES/Genesis titles are just the best.

[Anonymous No.2681078]

>>2673573
cybernet!

[Anonymous No.2681127]

>>2680867
I think that's how it looked in America.

[Anonymous No.2681162]

>>2677364
>game is garbage because you can use a different character

Are anti animefags really this butt devastated?

[Anonymous No.2681169]

>>2673561
>keyboard
>implying at least 80% of /vr/ isn't just emulating because retro shit is too expensive

[Anonymous No.2681178]

>>2681162
You have to admit that Maria is a bit out of place in the Castlevania universe, just like that loli in Castlevania 64. III and Bloodlines handled multiple characters much better.