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Time for some Daggerfall.

>quick install guide
http://pastebin.com/7EFSJrBG

>> No.2671885

>>2671875
I'm gonna roll. It takes way too long for me to create my characters.

>> No.2672130
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2672130

Play now, my lord!
redguard ladies sure look pretty

>> No.2672185

>>2671875
lets talk about the only thing worth even having a thread about
what's going to be done sooner? Daggerfall Unity or OpenDaggerfall?

>> No.2672790

>>2672185
I was only aware of Unity and XL.

>> No.2673035

>>2671875

Link to previous thread for any Q & A or discussions to be continued. >>2632552

>> No.2673067

Everytime I play this game I:

>make a completely broken character
>quickly trivialize all the challenge in the game with knowledge of spellmaking and enchanting after slamming through the mage's guild advancement by doing the night watch quest over and over (also the fastest way of making money)
>start actually playing the main quest and doing other quests and exploring dungeons and stuff
>within a day grow so frustrated with the semi-random gigantic byzantine labyrinths and their constantly recycled cells that make navigation improbable that I just skip all of them with console commands
>become the wrong kind of lycanthrope by accident
>quit before ever finishing the game

>> No.2673490

>>2673067
Play it like you're having an XCOM session. If your character dies, roll a new one.

>> No.2673551

Daggerfall is fucking great.
I love rolling an argonian and go on a graveyard tour since all graveyards have a mausoleum which is basically just a tiny-ass dungeon full of loot, which is a wonderful way to get yourself some cash before the game proper.

>> No.2673745

We should have some kind of collaborative save file. Someone plays the character for a day, then puts the save up for download, leaving another person to play, and repeat.

Though I guess we'd have to make sure everyone has the exact same installation.

>> No.2674409

>>2672790
https://github.com/kcat/opendf
>last updated August 11

>> No.2675507 [DELETED] 

Getting lich and daedroth quests at level six, lousy equipment (Elven > ) and only a 120 spell points.

What do?

I do not fancy robbing a "soothe" store or exploit Rusty Orge, but I also have only 120 spell points.

>> No.2675513

How do I get more magicka? One spell and I'm drained.

>> No.2675515

Getting lich and daedroth quests at level six, lousy equipment (Elven > ) and only a 120 spell points.

What do?

I do not fancy reloading saves until I get easier quests, nor robbing a "soothe" stores or exploit the Rusty Orge. I'd like some ideas to combat the liches/vampires, perhaps with magic, but I also have only 120 spell points.

>> No.2675521

>>2675513

Have you got the character trait of having magica tripple times' intelligence?

>> No.2675527

>>2675521
Probably not. Does Intelligence have an effect on magicka?

>> No.2675534

>>2675513
INT. Without any decent advantages like increased magery, then you're stuck with shit magika until you can use enchanting services and add magika bonuses to your stuff.

>>2675515
You're fucked m8. You need mithril or better.

>> No.2675546

Also, the only dungeons I'm seeing on my map are cemeteries. Does that change as I level up?

>> No.2675550

>>2675546
You need to take quests to unlock dungeons. Do do it the painfully difficult way and find them on foot.

>> No.2675551

>>2675550
>Do do it the
*Or do it the

>> No.2675552
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2675552

a Daggerfall thread?!

>> No.2675557
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2675557

On a quest for Rusty Incense

>> No.2675808

>>2675552
I like a lot of his videos, but is he autistic?

>> No.2676148

>>2675550
>find them on foot
Like finding a needle in a haystack in a warehouse full of haystacks.

>> No.2676163

>>2673490
Fuk that

>> No.2676251

Why does it take like 10 real time minutes for an in game hour to pass? WTF?

>> No.2676274

>>2671875
This. This I like

>> No.2676434

>>2676251
That's why you have a loiter option while using the rest button.

Speaking of resting - sleep, leveling, and damage is so much more balanced in this game compared to the rest of the series. It's great not needing a shitty difficulty slider just to gimp yourself with cause the game is so damn easy.

>> No.2676921

Stabbed that motherfucking lich to death with a mithril dagger I found on some orc.


How to train medical? By resting only, or by resting while injured?

>> No.2677227

>>2676921
I think you can only train it while it heals your HP. If you're a capable spell caster, without spell absorb, you can try throwing a weak AOE spell right beside yourself.

>> No.2677285

>>2677227

smart, will try it.

>> No.2677295

What should I keep in mind when playing Daggerfall? Guy not used to having Western Styled RPGS and only have Skyrim, reporting.

>> No.2677329

Rolling. But probably won't start this game immediately

>> No.2677373

>>2677295
Just RP.
>you can buy houses
>there are different regions with different climates
>some regions and cities have gigantic houses that can cost 1m+ gold
>can buy one of 2 types of boats
>there are disadvantages that can restrict the type of equipment you use, so you can't be a jack of all trades
>different regions have different patron deities
>some regions have a knight faction
Take quests, join factions, pretend to be the character you're playing as. Protip, the options you choose about your character's history in character creation have an effect on your backstory. You can check your backstory in your character sheet. Some of them can be pretty neat.

>> No.2677403

>>2677295
Also there's a shit ton of clothing you can buy. And like ever other TES game, you can enchant them. Plus some clothing you are able to change the way you wear them (Click use, then click on the clothing).

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2677405

>>2677403

>> No.2677428

>>2677405
>>2677403
>>2677373
Thanks anon(s). I'll play it when I get home. Not retro, but how's Morrowind and Oblivion?

>> No.2677452

>>2671875
rolling

>> No.2677479

>>2677428
Modded Morrowind: A whole new game with all of mainland Morrowind to explore.
Modded Oblivion: A whole new game where you get raped by wild wolves, become a bandit slave, and give birth to rape babies.

>> No.2677586

>>2677479
Why mods and not the base game?

>> No.2677598

>>2677586
For some reason I read
>how's modded Morrowind and Oblivion?
I am not proud.

>> No.2677660

>>2677586

Can't speak for Morrowind, but unmodded Oblivion is pretty bland overall.

Modded Oblivion makes it so you can add in interesting character builds, intuitive leveling, better enemy scaling (or lack thereof, so bandits won't appear with Daedric gear or stuff), companion NPCs that follow you around, etc.

You can make Oblivion into one of the best TES experiences out there with the right mods. I had a blast playing some sorta kung-fu wizard-monk compared to my first playthrough as a generic almost-paladin.

>> No.2677686

It's taking me forever to level up. I'm in a dungeon trying to work my way out and I've been level fighting spiders, rats and bats and resting. Every time I rest it says this or that attribute had increased. I'm still level 2.

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2677727

>>2677686
Keep that difficulty dagger down.

>> No.2678459

>>2672130
Santaki always was cool cause it was an enclave. Why didn't Dak'Fron have any large cities? I always wondered.

>> No.2678462

>>2672790
XL is dead I think man :(

>> No.2678467

>>2678462
Yeah, it's a shame.

>> No.2679151

Bump.


Who is the Underking? What's his agenda? Why does he want to save the Blades' fortress from the Necromancer's ill enchanted item? Why is he against the Necromancers, and claims to do no harm to the blades?

>> No.2679441

>>2679151
Don't spoil it! play the game and find out. the underking is awesome.

>> No.2679748

>>2677660
>kung-fu wizard-monk
shit I need to try that sometime

>> No.2680548

>>2679441

I just don't understand the Blades' Fortress quest. Why'd he want the necromancer's cursed item back?

>> No.2680660

rollin

>> No.2680785

>>2671875
Imma roll too since I'm going to play this game after classes. I'll write down a journal of my adventures in character.
U-unless it's autistic

>> No.2682465

What and how should I play to get the most enjoyment out of my first time playing this? Also, how does the lore, gameworld, characters etc compare to morrowind?

>> No.2682501

>>2682465
>>2682465
Read the manual. And...RP your character. It is an open ended game, so if you're like me that might make things hard for you to enjoy.

>> No.2682579
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2682579

>tfw just wasted over an hour messing with DOS trying to run this game
>tfw even when I got it running the mouse doesn't register
>just found out the quick install
>internal rage

>> No.2682673

>>2682465
Like the other guy said. This game is pure RPing. The options you choose, and the class you make even have an effect on your back story. Not to mention all the clothes and houses you can buy, and the different environments and climates you can live in.

If you end up getting tired of huge dungeons, you can try living in a smaller region. The average size and the amount of dungeons in a region is relative to it's landmass.

>> No.2684413

>>2677727
what are your disadvantages?

>> No.2684476

>>2684413
Crit weakness to disease, paralysis, and poison are the three biggest. You can add damage to sunlight, holy, and "darkness powered magery" since they bring down the dagger a lot too. And I think "unable to regen magika" lowers the dagger more than critical weaknesses.

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2684585

One of the comfiest moments in gaming for me, I think is when I travel somewhere in Daggerfall and arrive in the evening with snow or rain falling and I go to an inn and this plays:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8EaL1Zm6w
Really makes you feel like you are actually walking in from the cold and dark outdoors.

The exterior music is comfy as fuck too.

Also reposting this picture, because it helped me not quit because of shitty controls.

>> No.2684694

>>2684585
What button is rest?

>> No.2684772

>>2684694
Just set your own. I think the picture is set to the "~" key.

>> No.2684797

>>2676163
casul

>> No.2685947 [DELETED] 

3

>> No.2686591

I really want to get into this game. Just made a character and finished the first dungeon, dying a thousand times and using a walk through. Controls seem horrific. Slow as fuck turn, forced(?) mouse control in battle, positioning is tricky af, walk speed slower than a snail...
It seems so cool I really hope it opens up a little...

>> No.2686595

>>2686591
Change your controls.
>walk speed slower than a snail
SPD is super important in this game. It's not a dump stat like in Morrowind and Oblivion. It actually affects attack speed, and how fast enemies can attack you. If you have low SPD, you better be a damn good mage.

>> No.2686602

>>2686595
Yea, I tried fixing controls, but then I couldnt attack. Im prolly just too newb.

I might make a new character after a cake walk build...

>> No.2686605

Are missed arrows lost or am I just not looking for them the right way?

>> No.2686607

>>2686602
Just turn on mouse look and keep attack on right click. Then when you have to attack, hold the attack button and move the mouse around to swing. See >>2684585

>> No.2686610

>>2686605
Gone forever m8. Just buy/make a create item spell that conjures arrows.

>> No.2686642

>>2686595
Speed is still pretty good in Morrowind, unless you like moving like a slug.

>> No.2686650

>>2686642
>Speed is still pretty good in Morrowind
boots of blinding speed nigga

>> No.2686684

>>2686650

>high speed
>boots of blinding speed
>fortify acrobatics +Gorillian spell
>leap across the map for days

I wish you could do shit like that in Daggerfall, imagine not having to fast travel because you can just hulk that shit.

>> No.2686710

>>2686684
Only if Daggerfall Unity gets finished. I tried the demo, with high walk speed, traveling from town to town isn't that bad. Especially with modern view distance.

>> No.2686746

https://youtu.be/k9SGBrgFDl0

>> No.2686769

>>2686746
https://dangoodale.wordpress.com/downloads/daggerfall-remixes/
Holy shit these are good. Dat track 04.

>> No.2687382

>>2684585
maximum comfy, this track and the scene you described, color my imagination of what many roleplaying game and fantasy world inns and taverns are like.

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2687389

>>2671875
K

>> No.2687414

>>2687389
Quick, non /vr/ question. How is Morrowind? How does it compare to the DOS games, and should I get the overhaul?

>> No.2687423

I still never know what to do after getting out of the tutorial, the sheer openess is crushing to me, and aside from the main quest al li know about it just doing fetch quests for shop keeps and randomly selecting a dungeon tile in the map and just going there.

>> No.2687425

>>2687389
>>2687414

Morrowind is not retro.
>>>/v/

>> No.2687430

>>2687425
Just asking a quick question, mister. Please don't hurt me.

>> No.2687435

>>2687423
Join a guild or something. Or maybe join one of the knights or temples. Or do quests for nobles. Eventually you'll get a letter that let's you continue the main quest. BIG warning about it though. You absolutely need to follow the letter's instructions in a month, or you completely abandon the main quest.

>> No.2687439

>>2687435
That's...really weird for a game. I know Daggerfall is huge and all, but...Damn. It does make it realistic in a sense it's time sensitive.

>> No.2687446

>>2687439
A ton of quests have time limits. But once you answer the letter, you can put the main quest on back log indefinitely.

>> No.2687454

>>2687414
Morrowind's great, the world is small and hand-built compared to Daggerfall/Arena so it may feel limited if you're used to those. Still good for roleplaying. Vanilla's fine.

>> No.2687474

>>2687454
>compared to Daggerfall/Arena so it may feel limited if you're used to those
Holy shit, this. As I slowly finished up the mages guild quests, it felt like I was running out of things to do. Even when I still had a lot of Telvanni shit left.

>> No.2687602

>>2671875
Rolling

>> No.2687673

Rawling

>> No.2687680

>>2687602
finally made it out of Privateer's Hold, now at a tavern in some random town. I bought a bed for the night, now how do I sleep in it?

>> No.2688154

>>2687680
Just use the rest key. When you wake up, you'll be in your room automatically. Also don't forget to buy food for that extra mercantile training.