>tfw everywhere except /vr/ thinks the Sega CD had no good games except for Sanic Why are "gamers" so misinformed?

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Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:06:55 2015 No.2647360 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw everywhere except /vr/ thinks the Sega CD had no good games except for Sanic

Why are "gamers" so misinformed?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:11:29 2015 No.2647368 It had large amounts of shovelware and all the good games for it sold like shit. Also thanks to the 32X people assume the Genesis addons were a commercial failure even though the Sega CD sold 6 million units.

Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:12:21 2015 No.2647370

Easy answer: Blame AVGN

Hard answer: The Sega CD was prohibitively expensive at release and went on to prove itself to be a poor investment despite the few good games that were available on it, except for the few people like myself who are into collecting 1-2 gen old stuff

This second reason is why the good games for Sega CD (and Saturn) are so expensive. They came in under the radar very similarly to those awesome games that drop during the lame duck period for a console when the vast majority of gamers have already moved on to the new hardware. With Sega CD and almost to the same extent with the Saturn, the console was in its dying phase almost from release.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:17:59 2015 No.2647380 >>2647370 Sega fucked up by dropping advertising and support for their Genesis systems in 1994. I thought it came out late in the systems life when it came out in 1991 in Japan and 1992 in Norh America, there was still plenty of time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:19:11 2015 No.2647384 File: 50 KB, 64x109, 1434805902571.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2647360 AVGN is a big part of the answer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:21:47 2015 No.2647387 >>2647384 Literally this. This is the reason why I though the Sega CD was shit a few years back.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:22:44 2015 No.2647390 It was expensive and the most advertised games were shitty FMV titles. Which is a shame. Sega CD was what everybody were porting their PCE games into for English speaking audiences, since the T16 was dead in the US.

Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:25:30 2015 No.2647395

>>2647380
I actually think a later launch could have saved it, it was extremely expensive when it came out, more than the cost of the console. If it came out later it would have been cheaper due to less CD costs and would have had a well acknowledged library in contrast to early 32 bit games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:28:02 2015 No.2647402 Because it had a ton of shovelware

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:29:25 2015 No.2647406 >>2647402 So did the PS1/2.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:30:45 2015 No.2647409 >>2647360 I implore you to name said games.

Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:36:59 2015 No.2647427

>>2647380
You said a mouthful, Anon. Sega always had a terrible habit of not only launching new hardware too early but also cutting support for the old stuff. Tom Kalinske was almost solely responsible for the amazing success of the Genesis and it wasn't just because of the "Nintendon't" and other advertising campaigns, he was also a true believer in backward compatibility which is something Sega systems were great for and if Sega of Japan had fully supported 32x and Sega CD they not only would have avoided alienating a lot of their loyal fanbase but they wouldn't have really needed to launch the Saturn at all rather an all-in-one unit that could have competed with Playstation both on price and performance, freeing their R&D up to get the Dreamcast out even earlier and maybe not having suffered the fate we're all familiar with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:39:36 2015 No.2647432 >>2647409 Snatcher, Popful Mail, Lunar: Eternal Blue, Eternal Champions, Eye of the Beholder, Shining Force CD, Dark Wizard, Final Fight CD, The Terminator, Keio Flying Squadron, Vay, Heart of the Alien.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:41:55 2015 No.2647441 File: 82 KB, 584x389, spoon-feeding.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2647432 Thanks, gonna be a fun weekend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:42:59 2015 No.2647442 >>2647427 Fuck, Sega had some of the most idiotic management of all time did they? Sometimes I feel they just got lucky with the Genesis. Great hardware, great games, idiotic business.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:45:04 2015 No.2647449 >>2647441 No problem anon! Lunar Silver Star is also on the Sega CD but the remakes are much better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:47:55 2015 No.2647459 >>2647441 Also Lords of Thunder, Silpheed, Novastorm, Outer Space Adventure and a number of computer ports that are probably better on computer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:49:09 2015 No.2647463 >>2647442 It was Kalinske. He's got the Midas touch.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 28 23:56:32 2015 No.2647489 File: 96 KB, 640x480, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I bought a used CD just for my retrofu. No regrets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 00:02:29 2015 No.2647508 >>2647432 >Mention of Eternal Blue but not Lunar: SSS Glad I'm not the only one who knows where it's at.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 00:11:56 2015 No.2647539 >>2647360 It had a ton of shit on it. Only good games were Snatcher and Final Fight CD.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 00:13:31 2015 No.2647547

>>2647432
>>2647459
>>2647432
>>2647459
Was going to mention Silpheed and Lords of Thunder but you beat me to it. I would also add Sol-Feace to those albeit to a lesser extent, but I still love it.

I would also add Dungeon Explorer to that list even though it is hard as all hell, though easy to exploit (the manual even tells you how to exploit the game!)

To name a few more - Robo Aleste, Panic! (fun for a playthrough, takes a little while to get into it though), Mickey Mania, Puggsy, The Secret of Monkey Island, Wolfchild (personal guilty pleasure), Rise of the Dragon, Powermonger.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 00:13:50 2015 No.2647550 >>2647441 I loved The Adventures of Willy Beamish growing up too. Try that if you want a point 'n clicky cartoon game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 00:14:51 2015 No.2647557 >>2647489 Mail is worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 00:31:20 2015 No.2647595 >>2647539 >Only good games were Snatcher and Final Fight CD. Kill yourself, both figuratively and literally

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 08:51:31 2015 No.2648358 >>2647406 Indeed, but it also had a shitload of good stuff. The Sega CD had a few pretty good games, and a load of really mediocre and terrible games. It needed less Night Trap and more Snatcher, if you get what I'm saying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 08:53:21 2015 No.2648361 Youtubers ruin everything, basically.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 08:54:43 2015 No.2648364 >>2647432 >Heart of the Alien that game is objectively shit and a non-canon sequel

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 08:59:06 2015 No.2648373 I want to say the FMV craze hurt it, it seems to me that they toted those games a lot, obfuscating all the good stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 09:00:26 2015 No.2648375 >>2648361 Won't your boogeyman keep demand down, and thus lower prices for these games?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 09:03:33 2015 No.2648383 File: 190 KB, 439x269, 1440837585644.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2648375 How is it a Boogyman if it's literally true?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 09:45:10 2015 No.2648443 >>2647360 >>2647432 >>2647539 >>2648358 >Snatcher Any of you niggas played Cobra - The Space Adventure? I heard it's similar to Snatcher if a bit shittier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 09:46:12 2015 No.2648445 >>2648383 Is that Urusei Yatsura?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:07:37 2015 No.2648485 >>2648443 Kind of. It is basically a visual novel. Moreso even than Snatcher. If you like sci-fi manga and pixel art, you'll love it. If you like video games, you may not.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:12:40 2015 No.2648492

Youtuber reads wrong info off Wikipedia -> Youtuber makes video with wrong info -> Journalist watches video with wrong info -> Journalist writes article including the wrong info since that is the extent of their research -> Wikipedia editor provides citation of journalist's article next to wrong info (Now it's impossible to remove it since it has a 'source')

Congratulations, you have now learned how misinformation becomes systematized on the internet

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:17:15 2015 No.2648496

>>2648375
Not him, but this used to be the case. Scalpers read boards like this(and even post, you can see them complaining in emulation/flashcart threads), though, so prices have gone up anyway. Even though people here like to blame such things on "youtube".

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:22:24 2015 No.2648510 >>2647370 >>2647384 AVGN said himself that the CD and 32x had a bunch of good games (snatcher etc) but he couldn't review them because he doesn't own them.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:23:59 2015 No.2648516

For fucks sake I love sega games but cmon guys, the butthurt in this thread is embarrassing. If the console really was as good as you all claim then it would have been remembered as such like people remember the Dreamcast. Posting 2 or 3 obscure games doesnt change the fact that these were the exception and not the rule. Even though there is definitely a certain appeal to tbose few games, take off your fanboy goggles and actually put yourself in the time of its release. Its not worth it all to buy something so expensive to play games that dont even utilize the hardware for anything other than fmv and cd audio. Take a look in the mirror fanboys, you are the ones trying to rewrite history not your AVGN bogeyman.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:36:08 2015 No.2648545 >>2648516 >tfw LttP is overrated and Super Metroid is shit >Sega CD and 32x are gud We bizarro-world now

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:42:11 2015 No.2648564 >>2647406 The PS1/2 had way more high quality games mixed in with the shovelware than the Sega CD did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 10:59:02 2015 No.2648608 >>2647360 Both Ecco games are much better on the Sega CD thanks to the SPECTACULAR FUCKING MUSIC. Thank god I never played them on the Genesis before.

>>	Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sat Aug 29 11:47:21 2015 No.2648694 File: 124 KB, 500x647, tumblr_mw0f6jsOTn1qjfs3eo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2647489 >>2647557 Yes, Popful owns.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:29:02 2015 No.2648753 >>2648516 James Rolfe, pls go

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:33:28 2015 No.2648765

>>2648545
The 32X was terrible, anybody who defends it is just plain deluded. The CD is good tho.

>>2648516
The CD had way more then 3 good games. Most people are retards, the Saturn is better than the. DC (both good tho) but everybody beloves the latter more for no reason other than muh tragic Sega

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:39:21 2015 No.2648771
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>>2648765
>the saturn is better than the DC
That's it. I'm outta here. People here are obviously more interested in being contrarians than actually discussing the merits of older games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:42:37 2015 No.2648778 File: 17 KB, 225x225, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2648516 Gillian, I'm detecting high amounts of Faggotry in this poster. Proceed with extreme caution!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:42:39 2015 No.2648779 >>2648771 Not that guy but I like the Saturn more than the Dreamcast (which I still love) too. It's hardly an unpopular opinion in retro circles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:44:42 2015 No.2648783 >>2648771 Saturn had longer support and had lots more quality titles if you count Japanese games. I don't see the problem.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:47:52 2015 No.2648787

>>2648771
Like I said, the DC is good, but the Saturn was better, much better controller and a giant library of great 2D games. The DC's main benefit is perfect (basically a Neo Geo for Capcom games) arcade ports, I didn't really care for the 3D games except Skies and Jet Grind.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:50:23 2015 No.2648794

>>2648783
The problem is you're a fucking weeb and you didn't have a Dreamcast when it launched to see it make ps1 and n64 games look like shit in comparison. Instead you go on websites and find out what to think from other people. No one remembers anything from Saturn besides NiGHTS and Panzer the rest are just snes games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:52:50 2015 No.2648797 >>2648794 >You're a fucking weeb Says the guy who plays Japanese consoles like the Sega Dreamcast. Fucking weeaboo faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:54:53 2015 No.2648806 >>2648794 I was there when the Dreamcast launched and it was incredible. But in retrospect I think the Saturn probably has a stronger library. Again, I still absolutely love the Dreamcast though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:55:31 2015 No.2648807 >>2648797 Sure a triple-a gamer such as himself would play a triple-a console like the XBox!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:55:40 2015 No.2648808 >>2648794 >Weeb >Graphic whoring Opinion disregarded, and for a second there I thought you made some articulate points. Dreamcast is shit bro, 360 shat over it! Fucking moron.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:58:15 2015 No.2648813 >>2648808 You mean I did make good points but I hurt your feelings so you don't want to listen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:58:34 2015 No.2648814 >>2648778 Now this is a good post

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:58:34 2015 No.2648815
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>>2648794
Except I have a Saturn and a shit ton of burned CD games. Not the consoles fault the company went full retard with management unlike the DC.

Saturn > Genesis > Dreamcast > Sega CD > Master System > Game Gear > 32X. Don't get triggered bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 12:59:23 2015 No.2648818 >>2648807 Not retro but the Xbox was a good system. The main problem was the lack of support due to the dominance of the PS2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:01:24 2015 No.2648819 File: 9 KB, 204x256, 5 star post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2648778 I read it in Metal Gear's voice. Best post on /vr/ right now, right here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:01:58 2015 No.2648821 >>2648545 The 32X is shit, other than that everything else in that is true.

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Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:04:59 2015 No.2648825

The AVGN fucked up and cherry picked a bunch of FMV shit, now tons of "retro gamers", usually Nintenbabbies, thinks the console was terrible on the basis that it didn't sell well.

Make no mistake, I like Rolfe a lot more than the angry collectors of /vr/, but he really fucked up on that episode. The Sega CD has some of the best 16 bit games ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:08:24 2015 No.2648826 >>2647360 Marketing focused solely on shitty FMV games because it's easier to advertise that than explaining why someone would want CD audio in Final Fight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:09:39 2015 No.2648827 >>2648824 This list upsets me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:11:25 2015 No.2648830 >>2648778 10/10 >>2648815 Replace DC with the Genesis and I'd agree.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:14:20 2015 No.2648834

>>2648825
>>2648824
>>2648765
You are all missing the fucking point. Its not that those games are bad, its that there is no difference between them and sega genesis games besides slightly improved sound and graphics. Imagine actually being a gamer in the time and how pissed of you would be if you bought the Sega-CD and realizing instead of being revolutionary like the bullshit commercial implied its just a slightly more powerful genesis. Ironic that you are accusing a Dreamcast fanboy of being a graphics whore when the only thing Sega-CD games improved upon Genesis was graphics and not gameplay.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:15:54 2015 No.2648835
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>>2648794
>Instead you go on websites and find out what to think from other people

Or maybe they own one and actually know what's on the console instead of parroting shit from other people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:16:44 2015 No.2648837 >>2648834 >slightly more powerful genesis >slightly It's literally just Genesis with redbook audio.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:17:09 2015 No.2648838 >>2648824 Is the English translation for Illusion City still dead?

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:19:14 2015 No.2648846

>>2648834
The SegaCD was literally just a CD reader for the Mega Drive. It had a CPU for reading the disc, and some minor improvements to the audio. It had nothing that could improve graphics.

Curiously, the SegaCD was capable of some pretty amazing things that comercial games never actually did. For instance, you could make cartdridge games use the Sega CD hardware, which in theory would allow you to run a gamefrom the cart and the CD at the same time. I think some ROM hacks do this, in particular a ROM hack of Rock and Roll racing that can play custom soundtracks from a CD-R.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:24:37 2015 No.2648852

>>2648835
The only way to find games for the Saturn would be to look it up online now. Yeah im sure you only bought the saturn games that were in stores when it was being made and didnt just look up the grand list of weaboo shit to help get rid of your buyer's remorse for buying a saturn after neckbeards on gaming forums convinced you to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:25:49 2015 No.2648856 >>2648834 I'd say the 700MB space is a much bigger fucking improving than the Genesis, allowing for larger games and narratives.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:27:12 2015 No.2648858 >>2648852 All retro video game consoles are weeaboo shit. Please go back to >>>/v/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:27:16 2015 No.2648859 >>2648824 Why does that image have Dungeon Master II listed as Dungeon Explorer II? Is there some hidden mystery connection between the two series?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:28:05 2015 No.2648860 >>2648856 And cheaper production costs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:28:44 2015 No.2648861 >>2648852 Or I bought ports of arcade games I enjoyed like Virtua Cop, Darius Gaiden, and Strikers 1945 just to name some examples.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:29:34 2015 No.2648863 >>2648856 >>2648846 Except it doesn't matter because no games actually took advantage of it besides Sonic-CD

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:30:11 2015 No.2648865 >>2648856 Shhh let the Nintendobabies cry, you know they'd be singing the praises of the SNES CD if it came out. Even if garbage like Hotel Mario and the garbage CD-I Zelda games came out on it.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:30:26 2015 No.2648867

>>2648846
>The SegaCD was literally just a CD reader for the Mega Drive.

hahaha

>It had a CPU for reading the disc

hohoho

>and some minor improvements to the audio
>minor

>It had nothing that could improve graphics.

Except, you know, fucking scaling/rotation. That's not even mentioning the fucktons of more RAM (which was not puny cache) you could store some of the graphics. It's like you're confusing with the TFCD.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:31:55 2015 No.2648873

>>2648852
>>2648852
What makes the Saturn's game library "weeaboo shit"? The fact that a lot of it was only released in Japan? Is Radiant Silvegun "weeaboo shit"? Yeah, the Saturn was terribly managed and advertised, which lead for the majority of its game library being hidden gems or non-localised. I don't see how that should reflect on the quality on the game library.

You seem to care more on how well the systems were marketed instead of how good the game library is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:33:15 2015 No.2648875 >>2648873 >I don't see how that should reflect on the quality on the game library. The guy isn't even arguing about the quality at this point. He's just rambling about Saturn owners buying games because other Saturn owners told them to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:33:21 2015 No.2648876 >>2648863 Except, you know, RPGs and adventure games, two genres nonexistent on the Genesis with a few exceptions.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:34:49 2015 No.2648882 >>2648865 >>2648858 >>2648825 >>2648819 >>2648814 >>2648807 >>2648797 >>2648778 >>2648753 Sure is /circlejerk/ in here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:35:53 2015 No.2648887 >>2648867 sega cd could also push more sprites on screen than the genny

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:36:09 2015 No.2648890 >>2648875 I will admit that the Saturn is a lot overhyped on /vr/, especially when people say it's better than the fucking PS1. But it's still a great system with a large library of quality titles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:38:15 2015 No.2648897 >>2648875 No I'm arguing about people ignoring the quality of games and instead trying to prove how much of a speshy snow flake they are by playing obscure games for the sake of obscurity.

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:40:21 2015 No.2648903

>>2648897
>and instead trying to prove how much of a speshy snow flake they are by playing obscure games for the sake of obscurity.

What the fuck kind of Saturn discussions have you been joining? All the ones I've seen are usually talking about fighting games or shmups which are far from obscure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:42:05 2015 No.2648907 >>2648846 Get fucking shreked matey.>>2648867

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:49:10 2015 No.2648915 >>2648897 Oh, so you're insecure about the fact that other people are enjoying games you've never heard of and you have to lash out them. That's pretty sad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 13:56:32 2015 No.2648937 >>2648915 Quite the opposite in fact. Its people who ignore great games and would rather play a game thats on Saturn soley for the novelty of playing a game on a saturn and not because it's actually fun.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 14:00:34 2015 No.2648952 >>2648937 Well it's a good thing no one who owns a Saturn actually does that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 14:06:06 2015 No.2648969 File: 1 KB, 635x64, bait.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2648897 I bet you listen to nothing but top 40 music.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 15:01:08 2015 No.2649114 >>2648510 sorry but that's not good enough no review = shit positive review = WHOA SHIT MUST BUY THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME MY OPINION negative review = shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 15:04:12 2015 No.2649120 >>2648859 no, just someone who can't read

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 15:50:33 2015 No.2649282 >>2648694 >tumblr

Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:22:10 2015 No.2649354

>>2648865
Except those games for the CD-i hadn't even manifested by the time the SNES CD was still being developed.

Philips simply just had some rights left to publish some Zelda titles and a Mario titles, the CD-i games weren't developed by Nintendo or under their lead, and Philips went with the direction they did because of the kind of console they ended up making.

Had the SNES CD happened like originally planned the games would probably have been way different. Not necessarily good, buy different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:23:17 2015 No.2649358 >>2648882 >console warring fanboys >circlejerking Shocking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:23:33 2015 No.2649359 >>2648882 >People aren't fucking stupid and put two and two together. The jig is up james.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:27:11 2015 No.2649365 >>2649359 Do you genuinely think that he would come to a Vietnamese sockpuppet board to defend himself from the criticism of some Segs fanboys?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:30:16 2015 No.2649371 File: 381 KB, 772x873, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2649114 How do you explain this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:31:24 2015 No.2649374 >>2649282 You know that tumblr has a million other uses than to blog about being a quasimodosexual right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:32:23 2015 No.2649376 >>2649371 why would you want that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 16:33:09 2015 No.2649379 >>2649376 I don't.

>>	Princess Tumblrleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sat Aug 29 16:41:23 2015 No.2649391 File: 100 KB, 500x460, tumblr_ndzmp2QzUD1r7sijxo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2649282 Where else am I supposed to find cool retro game pics? Facebook?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:00:27 2015 No.2649427 >>2648516 This. You faggots like the Sega CD because normies hate it. That shit only has like 3 worth games and a bunch of shitty Japanese games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:03:43 2015 No.2649432 >>2649427 Nice samefag faggot. Kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:05:03 2015 No.2649437 >>2649427 I don't like the Sega CD much either, but it has at least 15 really good games. Not enough to build a console on but there are some gems there. So emulate, don't waste money on a real unit or shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:05:50 2015 No.2649438 >>2649427 The Sega CD didn't have many Japanese games, all of those were on the PC Engine CD. The Sega CD was seen as the "American" PCE there. Go back to >>>/v/, your uneducated kind aren't welcomed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:06:50 2015 No.2649441 >>2649437 Good thing it's an add on and not a console.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:07:53 2015 No.2649443 >>2649427 End your own life. >>2649437 You too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 29 17:10:44 2015 No.2649449 File: 76 KB, 464x348, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2649427 >That shit only has like 3 worth games and a bunch of shitty Japanese games.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 01:35:07 2015 No.2650204 >>2647384 The idea that some swearing, angry YouTube celebrity is enough to fully shape people's opinions about things they don't know about is disturbing.

Anonymous Sun Aug 30 02:04:33 2015 No.2650243
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>>2648824
>Annet Futatabi

Yikes, I usually can stomach a lot of Telenet, uh, "quality" but that game is pretty schlock. Whoever plays it I hope they emulate or find it dirt cheap.

>>2648952
I did do that until I bought Mr. Bones, a Saturn game so stupendously shit that I stopped buying Saturn games from that point on. Thank you Mr. Bones for having me see the light.

As far as FMV games go, I still keep around Corpse Killer because its cutscenes are so lovably cheesy. But I make no mistake when it might be the most irredeemably bad game I've played.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 04:27:29 2015 No.2650384 >>2648608 But they have great music on the Genesis as well, especially II. >>2648846 >It had nothing that could improve graphics Anon please, something like Soulstar would not have been possible on the Genesis alone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 06:11:28 2015 No.2650446 This thread in a nutshell: >I know nothing about a console's library >therefore it's shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 06:23:19 2015 No.2650456 >>2650243 yep anett futabi is clearly unfinished, the camera doesn't even lock up if you walk to the right

Anonymous Sun Aug 30 06:28:45 2015 No.2650462

>>2648887
Hmm, no. You have been misinformed, sprites are still handled by the Genesis VDP. All Sega CD hardware can do is helping generating scaled/rotated tiles in memory, instead of doing it through software calculations, but all graphics data are still being processed by Genesis hardware.

Only 32x was able to render its own graphics layer, but it required vido mixing cable.

Princess Sevenleaf !AnVbXjgZco Sun Aug 30 09:51:13 2015 No.2650681
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>>2650204
These are the same people who get their political opinions straight from South Park, Family Guy, and other cartoons.

These people are allowed to vote in elections.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 10:47:06 2015 No.2650781 >>2648824 got one of these for the 32x?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 10:59:12 2015 No.2650801 Any tips on playing NTSC games on a PAL MD/CD setup? I really want to get groovy with the CD version of SMT. Also how's the mouse for the MD? I'm thinking of picking up some RPGs and it might be useful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 10:59:35 2015 No.2650802 >>2650462 While the Sega CD can't actually display more sprites per row, you can just let the add-on's own 68000 handle the game, which will perform better than the stock Genesis processor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 11:14:20 2015 No.2650832 >>2650801 I think you have to use an Everdrive, with it you can actually boot the US/JP BIOS from there, then you can run foreign games. You'll probably need two dip switches for both refresh rate and language.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 16:12:38 2015 No.2651380 >>2647360 >tfw everywhere except /vr/ thinks the Sega CD had no good games except for Sanic Why are "gamers" so correct?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 16:13:58 2015 No.2651385 >>2650204 >>2650681 Children are very inclined to believe the first thing they are told about something they don't know. Especially if its from someone they like

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 30 16:15:11 2015 No.2651394 >>2651380 There's literally a list in this very thread proving you and the other 12 year olds wrong.

Anonymous Sun Aug 30 17:22:17 2015 No.2651610

>>2650456
This gets even better when you spend half of the game waiting for enemies to find their way back onscreen after you've left them behind in that dark void beyond your tv edge.

I feel that most Telenet games from the mid90s are unfinished. Like, they just gave up.

>>2649391
pixiv, I guess, but that's pretty spotty for older obscure games in my experience.

>>2648838
Ha, I didn't know there was one; it's a game I've wanted to play for some time now. Micro Cabin needs some more love.

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Anonymous Mon Aug 31 03:53:30 2015 No.2652979 [DELETED]

>>2650802
It can't handle the game by itself because the second 68000 can only access its own memory and Sega CD specific hardware. It cannot access Genesis sound or video hardware, hence why you still need the slower stock 68000 to send commands and data to the VDP. All they can both access is shared RAM and some communication registers, which limits what you can actually doon both sides.

That's the reason why 95% of Sega CD games do not benefit from the faster CPU for faster game processing and only use it to call BIOS commands related to the CD (play audio tracks, read data from CD, etc).

Anonymous Mon Aug 31 03:59:55 2015 No.2652990

Anonymous 08/31/15(Mon)09:53:30 No.2652979▶
>>2650802 #
It can't handle the game by itself because the second 68000 can only access its own memory and Sega CD specific hardware. It cannot access sound or video hardware and more over, it could not access the large memory area offered by cartridge ROM if you wanted to, hence why you still need the slower stock 68000 to send commands and data to the VDP. All they can both access is shared RAM and some communication registers, which limits what you can actually doon both sides.

That's the reason why 95% of Sega CD games do not benefit from the faster CPU for faster game processing and only use it to call BIOS commands related to the CD (play audio tracks, read data from CD, etc).

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 04:37:24 2015 No.2653048 >>2651380 Kill yourself, AVGN filth

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 05:15:55 2015 No.2653098 >>2648443 Yo that anime is pretty great, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 31 05:46:17 2015 No.2653119 >>2649427 what you're thinking of is the nes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 03:22:25 2015 No.2655305 >>2647360 Wasnt there a version of Lunar for it? The Sega CD was cool but we never had money for it when I was a kid and I don't have the money for the games now. Good thing emulation's really solid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 12:18:18 2015 No.2655916 >>2647489 Bardon my asking as I know nothing in regards to CD. Is it region free? Can I play Jap CD games on an American SegaCD? I do really want to give popful a try. In the meantime though, any good cD emulators?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 12:22:03 2015 No.2655924 >>2655305 Two of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 12:38:14 2015 No.2655943 >>2651816 Get this on PC, not Sega CD. The load times are painful on Sega CD.

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 12:51:27 2015 No.2655957

>>2655916
it isn't region free (so if you're burning games, you'll need to change the disc region before that)
Kega Fusion is brilliant for the Sega CD, just remember to get the bios files.

>>2650802
which communicates over a narrow bus and is completely separated from Genesis RAM

the 32X has this very same problem as well, although that got around it by just plugging straight into the TV, overlaying itself over the Genesis's output and having big set of its own RAM

A Sega CD that was wired more like the 32X could have totally done a lot more. Direct video output and a bit more RAM on the CD side would have pretty much let Sega push all kind of impressive graphics and add more color like they wanted.

if Sega knew they'd have such an expansion fetish, they'd have built some way for expansions to access RAM into the Genesis

as it stands, there's a tiny handful of games that really push the CD like Silpheed (which calculates real 3D for the interactive objects, quite a good game if not entirely brilliant) and Soul Star (kind of lame game, but incredibly pretty with all kind of "mode-7" playfield effects and scaling)

>>2650781
there's like, 34 32X games
if you want some generally good ones, you get
>Shadow Squadron
>Space Harrier
>After Burner Complete
>Virtua Racing
>Virtua Fighter
>Kolibri
>Chaotix (isn't actually good, but pretty much anyone you hand it to will at least enjoy it for a bit)

and even Doom 32X isn't a terrible port, but it's marred by being rushed and the music being dogshit (otherwise, runs fine, and is better than all except the PC, PS1, and Jag versions, seems to have a higher average framerate than the PS1, but the lighting is heavily neutered)

I think there's one game I'm probably missing that's good on the mushroom. It's not Zaxxon, fuck that game. I wanted to like Metal Head but it is unimaginably clunky. Darxide is pretty and that's fucking it.
Mortal Kombat is okay, IIRC. I'm not a MK person, so I haven't touched it in forever.

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 13:07:44 2015 No.2655981

>>2652990
was it really necessary for the mega cd to have its own 68000 and be as powerful as the base console? i think SEGA should've made it just a cd player more or lesslike the turbo cd and release it cheaper so people would buy it. The worst thing about the Megadrive when comparing it with the competition was the low color count and the megabcd didn't change that. So I suppose the main exixsting reason of that 68000 in the cd unit is its fmv abilities?

Anonymous Tue Sep 1 13:58:29 2015 No.2656074

>>2648824
Only like one third of that list is legitimate. A lot of those games are technologically impressive but crap (Batman Returns, anyone), others are available on other platforms like PC and the Mega Drive itself, while others are only available in Japan.

If you made a list of exclusives that are actually good games and are playable by non-moon speaking audiences, it'd be tiny.

>>2648516 may be an asshole but he's not wrong. MCD might be a cool collectible nowadays if that's your thing but if you'd shelled out for it when it was new you'd be pissed. Not as pissed as if you'd bought a 32x but then not everyone can be as daft as I was.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 1 18:38:15 2015 No.2656713 Ok since this looks like a Sega CD thread. I just bought a JVC X'Eye and I want to burn a copy of Snatcher and some others. Anyone have a good resource to check out that explains it all? Is it as easy as copying a DVD?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 2 19:56:00 2015 No.2658291 >>2648445 Looks like it.

Anonymous Thu Sep 3 04:19:15 2015 No.2658815
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>AVGN makes a video about some underdog vidya/console and completely shits all over it because it's part of his character
>babbies take his word as the word of god and spout their opinions even if they haven't personally touched the damn game/system

I love AVGN, but goddamn he has so much influence over people. Try to talk about some 3DO games like Star Control 2 or Flashback on some mainstream vidya forum and you're going to get thrown all over the place with uninformed baby shit opinions and memes all because "le 3DO is le bad because le internet le man le said something le le le xD xD". Fucking horse shit.

Anonymous Thu Sep 3 04:23:09 2015 No.2658818
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>>2658815

I suffer the same thing as a Virtual Boy fan (for those of you who claim AVGN always shit on Sega/other companies and not on Nintendo).

The VB was a commercial failure and a bizarre thing, alright, but it still has some great games and the thing, if bizarre, is quite unique.

But it's impossible to discuss it because there's always going to be people who never played it but will say it sucks because it gives you eye cancer or whatever.

Anonymous Thu Sep 3 04:26:44 2015 No.2658824

>>2658815
>blaming AVGN when people cant think for themselves.
How do you thing same governments stay in power for 10-20 years.
People do what they are told to do.
I know people that still thing that everything said on TV and Radio is truth and they wouldn't lie to them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 3 04:27:44 2015 No.2658826 >>2658824 think*

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 3 05:02:54 2015 No.2658859 Blame the Angry Video Game Cuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 3 14:39:41 2015 No.2659382 >>2647360 Same reason why people think Silver Surfer is a bad game, they watched an AVGN video.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 3 14:50:29 2015 No.2659403 So we can all agree that Youtubers are the worst cancer to ever affect retro games. What can we do about them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 3 17:48:48 2015 No.2659672 >>2655957 >Not mentioning Tempo Unless that's the game you're thinking of your list is shit

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