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2645584 No.2645584 [Reply] [Original]

Is The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past overrated?

>> No.2645586

Overrated is pretty much a meaningless term at this point, but it's not a great game.

>> No.2645590

On 4chan everything is overrated the moment more than 5 people know about it. So yes, ALttP is highly overrated.

>> No.2645592

>>2645584
no, it's just too easy

>> No.2645602

>>2645586
Why is it not a great game?

>> No.2645604

>>2645602
It's way too stretched out. Far too many dungeons that are basically the same thing. I liked the first 5 hours or so but the last 15 were a slog. I don't dislike it or anything but I'm not nuts about it.

>> No.2645606

>>2645604
What did you think about the graphics? Did you find the color palette to be bland? I thought the music was kinda bland, as well.

>> No.2645626

Every game is overrated

>> No.2645638

>>2645584
The challenge could use boost.
Putting all objectives on the map with the order to get to them was retarded.

Otherwise it's not hyped for nothing.

>> No.2645641

Is playing the game even on real hardware cheating if you don't play according to the developers' intentions in all situations?

>> No.2645675
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2645675

Welcome to /v/ and /vr/.
The places people go to shit on great games.

It must be a tough life being an elitist who can only truly enjoy 11/10 perfect games...

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>>2645584
Goddamn. Everyday with this shit. Almost as annoying as the "I just bought [expencive hard to find game] what am I in for?" threads.

>> No.2645710

>>2645675

It isn't that A Link to the Past is bad, it's just that Link's Awakening is better by a large enough factor that ALttP is sort of irrelevant ;)

>> No.2645714

>>2645675
Who is shitting on A Link to the Past?

>> No.2645718

>>2645710
I like this answer. Haha

What is about Link's Awakening that makes you believe it's a better game than A Link to the Past?

>> No.2645757

>>2645710
I figured you'd rear your ugly mug here.

>> No.2645759

>>2645710
What's better about a gameboy game that was unable to be a fast paced action game so it instead fell into form and became yet another boring puzzle game on a console library already overflowing with them?

>> No.2645772

>>2645718
Different anon here. The story was better (LttP was kind of barebones), you get a really awesome powerup in the first dungeon, and the action was faster-paced and the game just felt much more streamlined.

>> No.2645832

>>2645584
Secret of mana was preferred in my house. Zelda seems a little 'light' in content occasionally.

>> No.2645854

>>2645832

not even close to the same type of game you fucking nigger retard.

>> No.2645905

>itt we try our best to piss all over something because just enjoying it for being fun is too much
sounds fun, here we go
>alttp
>those sloppy swimming controls
never liked em. i can't tell if they're loose because swimming is 'floaty' by nature or what.
>you can be booted off the stage for the boss and ejected to the overworld

this always irritated me. i don't like the moldorm doing it from tower of hera, i didn't like seeing him as the first boss of la. it isn't that he can swat you off the stage, that doesn't bother me. it's that you have to climb back up, usually with a little less health, to start from scratch. i could deal with taking 1-1/2 hearts of damage from being hit and falling. it makes it more dangerous. don't waste my albeit worthless time having to make my way back to the boss. the fact that ganon does this, in his final form irks me especially.

>going to one light/dark world get momentarily trapped in a rock warp back, readjust./warped just so that you can't actually reach the warp point back

having to listen to the music and sit through the animation was bothersome, i recently played through and it didn't happen much but when it did i hated it.

>no dark world fast travel
i'm traipsing about hyrule trying to get from a-b and it's in the dark world because hey, 2/3 of the fucking game happens there. now i have to either find my original warp point or find one of the 7(?) on the map. call the bird and fast travel warp back to the dark world and resume.

that said, it's a fun game, i enjoy it a alot and play it at least 1 time a year like super metroid.

>> No.2645907

yes, yes it is

>> No.2645928
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I grew up with Link's Awakening and a gameboy instead of SNES so I have zero nostalgia for ALTTP.

Having said that ALTTP was a fine game to play through but I mainly disliked the general art style, link's pink hair, the googly eye look of some characters. LA's art style was cooler to look at mainly because it was probably done by different artists and done in a smaller resolution. Link's sprite in particular looks more compact and serious with a pinch of innocence.

It's irrational nostalgia at it's finest, but it's not insane to prefer other zelda games over alttp.

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>>2645584
The term "overrated" is nonsense bullshit. Everyone has different tastes and opinions on games. All that saying something is overrated means is that you personally like it less than the overall consensus.

There's nothing wrong with that at all. I've never cared for LttP either, but it doesn't mean that it's legion of fans are overrating it. They just happen to really like the game, more than I do.

I'd take Beyond Oasis over Link to the Past any day of the week, but that's just me.

>> No.2645937

>>2645604
>four hour game
>stretched out

>> No.2645941

>>2645928
>all those reused assets
didn't see them as a kid, really fucking glaring as an adult. i'm not really a mario fan but, some of the winks to other nintendo franchises that aren't related to plumbing might have been nice. kirby being an enemy in eagle's tower doesn't count.
>>2645937
>speedrunning is the rule not the exception
keep telling yourself that.

>> No.2645945
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>Overrated games are so underrated on /vr/ they are actually more underrated than overrated

>> No.2645950

>>2645945
Pretty much yeah. It's the whole "why is Super Metroid such a shit game?" phenomenon.

>> No.2645951

>>2645941
Speedrun time for the game is 2 hours, idiot. That's how normal glitch-free playthrough takes if the player knows where to go.

>> No.2645952

>>2645584

Did you enjoy it? Or is your enjoyment based on other people and what they say? Because if so, all of your favorite games are garbage and overrated shit. So says I.

>> No.2645960

>>2645604
The whole 3+8 thing Alttp thing had going for it (plus those "mini" dungeons, like after rescuing Zelda and getting the master sword) make it way too long.

Zeldas are at their best when they have less dungeons honestly, outside of SS because that game is just a straight up piece of over designed bullshit.

>MM
>Less dungeons then OoT but with lots of optional content makes the game more interesting and engaging because you can go as deep as you want to with it
>OoT is basically linear, so the majority of the content has to be explored
Don't even bring up speedrunning bullshit here. An occasional playthrough of Zelda is fine, but speedrunning it is for autists.

>WW has less dungeons
>Best game

People whine about how WW had dungeons cut but I really feel like if WW had more dungeons it would be a horrible experience. The whole triforce chart thing is terrible, but it was mostly relieved in the HD release.

>> No.2645962

>>2645952
Yes. I really like A Link to the Past. But I think the graphics and music are kinda lame, and the atmosphere is dull. So I made this thread to see what others thought about the game.

A Link to the Past is often ranked very high on lists of best Super NES games. I'm curious if others agree or disagree.

>> No.2645975

>>2645962
If you are doing only NTSC-UC releases then it may fit in my top 10-20 (depending on rules like only 1 game from a series, etc), but if we're talking NTSC-J releases included its probably not even in my top 50.

The series as a whole is definitely the single most over rated in all of gaming. Adored by casuals and Nintendo fanboys most of all, who praise it constantly. The type of people who only own Nintendo consoles, and probably never beat the Shadow Temple in OoT, let alone have even played TP or SS.

The first was ground breaking. OoT was "ground breaking" sure (I say that because Megaman Legends had a full-3d setup and is very "zelda-like" and came out a full year before OoT)

Mario has had a lot of good games and broke a lot of ground. The series is kind of on the decline because its producing a lot of shovelware, but Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros 3, and Mario 64 all were great games in their own right, especially on release. Zelda was similar but its been on the decline since WW. You could argue that OoT was the beginning of the end with the fetch quests and hamfisted story elements.

But yeah, so many amazing games and people always put Zelda alttp at top spot in so many lists.

>> No.2645976

>>2645962
it belongs there, it just appears sophomoric between loz and oot. even though oot just reuses conventions established in alttp and la
>>2645951
>wasted enough time to be able to speed run alttp
>accuses others of being stupid

>> No.2645994

>>2645976
Don't even give him that much credit, I'm sure hes just a twitch baby who watches them.

>> No.2646007

>>2645994
>that isn't a greater waste of time

>> No.2646040

>>2645975
>Megaman Legends had a full-3d setup and is very "zelda-like" and came out a full year before OoT
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon came out even before Megaman Legends and is also "Zelda-like".

It's not about who does it first, it's about who does it first properly.

Both of those games have wonky as fuck controls, targeting, camera, etc. OoT's acclaim is for being the first 3D action-adventure game that finally got it right. That's why OoT's style of control and mechanisms are still being used to this day not only in the Zelda series but countless other games. (Inspiration is obvious in stuff like Fable, Darksiders. Even Rockstar said that GTA3's control/camera scheme was influenced in various ways by OoT).

I don't think OoT is the greatest game around, not going to be a total apologist, it certainly has its flaws. But anybody that tries to deny the game's influence (in spite of what flaws it may have) is verifiability insane.

>> No.2646358 [DELETED] 

>>2645994
Uh... I own A Link to the Past and have beaten it several times on the SNES I've had since childhood. >.>

>> No.2646556

>>2645675

Kinda this

But its not as bad as /tv/

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>>2645945

>> No.2647180

>>2645975
Megaman Legends was pretty terrible though. I mean, certain aspects of it were/are charming. I don't hate it. But it played like shit. It played like a game that didn't know how to be 3D.

You can play OoT to this day and it still feels intuitive. And that's cause it influenced nearly every game that came out after it.

>> No.2647195

It was fun when I was 10 years old.

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>>2647195
Then what happened??

>> No.2647239

>>2647237
then I grew up.

>> No.2647245

>>2647239
Oh so the game changed because you got older? Nigga this ain't Twister.

>> No.2647282

>>2645584
Yes. OoT is way better. No question.

>> No.2647293

>>2645941
>alttp
>four hours
>speedrun
you sir are an idiot

>> No.2647389

>>2645941
>reused assets

Cameos. I loved them.

>> No.2647391

>overrated

What if we just appraised games based on how fun they are instead of spiting popular opinion?

>> No.2647763

>>2645584
Hardly. Every damn Zelda game to come after it has basically just copied it.

With perhaps exceptions given for Majora's Mask and Wind Waker.

>> No.2647827

>>2645584
Nope. It's a fantastic game. One of the best games I've ever played.

>> No.2648170

>>2645584
Maybe a little bit. It still is awesome and certainly was a monster of game back then.

>> No.2648292

At what point does a game become overrated?