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[Anonymous No.2635305]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2625430
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

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[Anonymous No.2635306]

===NEWS===

[08-23] Anon map release: Vanillic Acid
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2634884
https://mega.co.nz/#!RxBCiRCT!b1MnUJGE9FB8kvCbnONszDiuaaEdZcNqrRTqeMT2PhA

[08-23] Anon mod release: MBF HUD for ZDoom
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2633498
https://www.dropbox.com/s/svntk74s5ypn229/mbfhud-20150823.pk3

[08-23] Anon map release: Toxic Base
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2632192
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hn911ts1b9pyfj7/Toxic%20Base.wad

[08-22] Going Down bugfix update
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1412093

[08-22] Simple Mutators: no hitscanners, toned down revenant fire, and more
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48978

[08-19] Don't Be A Bitch Remastered: 33 T/LMS maps updated for better DM play. Designed for Eon Weapons
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=18189

[08-19] Discovering The Essence Of Doom
http://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/discovering-the-essence-of-doom/2015/08/19/13

[08-19] Demonsteele: Sun Shihong beta test
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2624117
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fo9nh88xs48xv7u/te13-DemonSteele.pk3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xi94i3p550grunh/ssh.pk3 (load both, plus mapset)

[08-18] /vr/doom community wad: Famous monuments, landmarks, or places of interest
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2619435 - Announcement
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2619669 - Rules

[08-16] RIP, Ty Halderman, /idgames maintainer, Boom co-author, TeamTNT leader
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/post/1409629
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/74184-idgames-maintainer-ty-halderman-passes-away-at-69/

[08-16] Torr Samaho: "I merged Zandronum with GZDoom's head"
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=854551#p854551
https://bitbucket.org/Torr_Samaho/zandronum-zdoom-sync/

[08-14] The /newstuff Chronicles #478
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4471

[08-13] X-Com mod released (unfinished, for modders)
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2608653
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0tq6vv6f71q2pm/XComModStuff.rar?dl=0

===

Please reply to this post with news.

[Anonymous No.2635313]

So who's going to make ATHFDoom now that the show just ended?

[Anonymous No.2635326]

I'm not really familar with modding, are there any mods like Hexercise or that one Heretic mod that just buffs weapons for Doom? The modding community for doom is so much larger than both of those combined and all I see is completely game mechanic overhauls for miles around.

[Anonymous No.2635328]

>>2635326
>I'm not really familar with modding, are there any mods like Hexercise or that one Heretic mod that just buffs weapons for Doom?

You could throw a stone and hit at least ten.

[Anonymous No.2635331]

>>2635328
I've tried looking around but I keep finding stupid shit that adds iron sights and assault rifles. I just want some beefier original DOOM weapons is all.

[Anonymous No.2635332]

here is something I did for a part of my map.
a maze that is a part of map progression, and you can find exit easily in two seconds of entering it. exploration of maze leads also to a secret area with armor, player should have little problem finding the secret since imps were shooting from that place earlier. but there is also a catch
if you just keep exploring, you will end up in a room that will lock you out.
and the only way to reveal exit is to enable crushers with a switch.
there are 8 of them, and you pretty much have to walk through all to reach exit.
did I mention its 64 unit wide maze?

how evil am I?

[Anonymous No.2635339]

>>2635332
depends how hard they are to pass

[Anonymous No.2635342]

>>2635331

The problem is that everyone has a different mindset of what being "beefier" entails. Hexercise is excellent, but it takes so many liberties--it's a complete gameplay overhaul, even just by making the weapons more satisfying and fun.

The question is just how much you want to deviate, and where.

[Anonymous No.2635347]

>>2635332
depends how hard they are to pass - if it's a guaranteed death sentence you're just going to piss players off, if not it might be interesting the first time, but may reduce replay value of level, etc. OTOH if it's avoidable with prior knowledge and you can still get 3x100% without having to visit the trap then you can make it as evil as you like

[Anonymous No.2635350]

>>2635305
Can I just say the Cacodemon is adorable? I see these threads all the time and love when you use the cute pictures.

[Anonymous No.2635351]

>>2635342
Ya Hexercise definitely changes the game by making it a lot easier, but using it with the wrath of cronos mod balances it out a little bit I think.
Really I just want something similar to the Heretic mod, a couple new weapons that aren't just OP and are actually somewhat balanced and not just IRL assault rifles and pistols, and upgrades and alt-fires to existing weapons. In hexercise the whole revamp I was okay with because vanilla hexen combat is kinda boring to begin with, Doom is a lot more sound it's combat so I don't think it needs such overhauling adjustments.

[Anonymous No.2635356]

>>2635347
these are fast crushers, so making a step too far is not a death sentence. its meant to add tension to player since I am using that green gargoyle on wood wall texture for moments where I fuck with player.
>pit just lowered?
a gargoyle
>platform with keycard just raised?
guess what, it has gargoyle on its sidedefs
>door just closed off exit?
another gargoyle.

and this part with maze is an example, going too far into maze traps player in room where crushers must be activated to reveal exit. original entrance is blocked by gargoyle

I like developing themes through my maps, in half life 2 maps I always used various birds that are in game, and few players actually caught onto that and kept their eyes peeled.
crows for example meant danger, and amount of them was proportional.
pigeons were secrets, seaguls were safe spots. when my mate was testing one of my maps, he stopped playing as soon as he saw dead seagul and few crows sitting on tree above it. he noped the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.2635371]

>>2635356
i like the idea of creating a link between some innocuous visual element and gameplay consequences.

[Anonymous No.2635419]

I want to learn how to use Doom Builder 2. Is the tutorial on their page enough or I should look out anywhere else? Also, where would I get some inspiration to create a map?

[Anonymous No.2635424]

>>2635419
your second question suggests you do not have any inspiration to map, in which case i wonder why you want to learn a map editor?

[Anonymous No.2635428]

>>2635419
your third (not second) question suggests you do not have any inspiration to map, in which case i wonder why you want to learn a map editor?

[Anonymous No.2635454]

>[08-23] Anon map release: Toxic Base
see also >>2634078

[Anonymous No.2635463]

>>2635419
Get GZDoom Builder instead, as its still gets updated. You can do vanilla and boom format maps with it fine.
I haven't read their tutorial, so I'm not sure, but give a read anyway I guess.
Scythe series, Alien Vendetta, and Plutonia are probably good places to get inspiration.

>>2635428
I think he meant he wants to know a good source for inspiration. Something to get ideas from. Not that he wants inspiration to convince himself to map.

[Anonymous No.2635484]

>>2635306
>[08-23] Anon map release: Toxic Base

Just did it.

Quite a nice map, last room with the two archies was a cunt.

I feel like the lighting could do with being touched up a bit, but nice anon.

[Anonymous No.2635495]

>>2635463
Thanks, based anon.
>>2635428
I meant what >>2635463 understood.

[Anonymous No.2635498]

>>2635463
Can Scythe be played 'properly' or is it just 'go fast'

[Anonymous No.2635518]

>>2635498
mostly you can take as long as you want. the exception is map28 which has to be exited before a timer expires. however, you'll probably find you don't need very long for most maps, as they are small, although there are couple of exceptions, notably map30.

[Anonymous No.2635541]

>>2635351
Well you should start out with Smooth Doom. Personally I find that's all the standard doom arsenal/monster roster really needs. Play it with the doom64 skin option and SSG gibs turned on.

[Anonymous No.2635543]

>>2635498
i mean you can play it like this if you want

http://a.uguu.se/hpckar_sc01asslowaspossible.lmp

1:51 try to avoid nearly getting barrelled by the dying shot of the final monster alive

[Anonymous No.2635547]

>>2635498
You can play at your own pace. Map28 being the exception, though its only hard on UV.

[Anonymous No.2635567]

>>2635547
>its only hard on UV.
this is true. but for the first time player, before you know the route and what to do, it can be pretty frustrating regardless of skill level.

i know it took me a few attempts to "get it", and then watching a demo, to really appreciate it. going by posts in previous doom threads i am far from the only one.

[Anonymous No.2635592]

>>2635543
I don't know why but that webm made me laugh

[Anonymous No.2635595]

>tfw want to play Doom 64 but it seems too scary for me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6ghG072FUY

[Anonymous No.2635606]

>>2635592
intentionally terrible play can be entertaining. but quickly becomes hackneyed.

[Anonymous No.2635613]

>Always underestimate how much a Revenant's homing shot can curve.

[Anonymous No.2635625]

>>2635606
I've been playing like that through doom 1 2 and now TNT though, is it bad to bother killing enemies, and I should just leg it to the exit instead?

[Anonymous No.2635629]

Coding some hit detection for a sword. The idea is that the if the arcing projectile (will be invisible of course) hit something the sword goes CLANG and plays it's animation backwards step by step.

Problem is: it doesn't die when it's warped inside of a wall. How come? Is there a projectile flag for that?

[Anonymous No.2635631]

>>2635625
Play how you feel.

Unless you're speedrunning, I don't think you should feel pressured to hurry to the exit

[Anonymous No.2635634]

>>2635595
It's not scary as much as it feels really unwelcoming (thematically I mean, the game is great). It's kind of like system shock, you feel very alone even when you're wrecking shit.

[Anonymous No.2635636]

>>2635634
I felt like that in Doom 1 at first but the spookiness wore off and you end up feeling like a god mowing down armies of monsters.

[Anonymous No.2635649]

>>2635636
IMO, Doom 1 was only ever spooky in E2M4.

[Anonymous No.2635651]

>>2635649
I found E2 spookier than E3 tbh

[Anonymous No.2635652]

>>2635613
Its fun dodging them in levels full of windows, only to have one sneak its way back to you.

[Anonymous No.2635656]

>>2635651
Music choice was probably a big factor to this, too.

E2 had spooky/moody music on 4 maps (M2, M4, M6, M8). Where as E3 only on 1 map (M4).

[Anonymous No.2635659]

>>2635625
>>2635631
yeah i mean the fact is you win by triggering the exit, whatever that might be (switch, line, killing a certain monster, etc.). everything else is optional, the game doesn't care if you don't get all kills or secrets, you just get smaller numbers on the intermission screen

[Anonymous No.2635660]

>>2635649
same for me except s/E2M4/E2M6/
that dark maze with barons creeping up on you, shudder

[Anonymous No.2635664]

>>2635660
>E2M6

Fuck that was a spooky map.

[Anonymous No.2635685]

>>2635306
>[08-23] Anon map release: Vanillic Acid
>>2634884

Firstly, a bunch of things that could use fixes:
-The .wad file has a space in its name, this is a no-no for a wad intended to be vanilla compatible.
-Chocolate Doom crashes the moment you open the door to the shotgun room, upon using Chocorenderlimits it seems the STEP4 texture on the raised ledge is causing problems, I don't know how to fix this.
-The switch that lowers the lift to the shotgun can only be activated once, if you miss the lift you can never use it again.
-The secret sector where the backpack is is too small/close to the wall, it doesn't activate unless you fall off the ledge toward the blue key, in Zdoom I was wandering around trying to figure out where the last secret was.
-"That room" was so jarring, I didn't know what it was meant to be after I left it and looked at the map, I think the teleport would look smoother if the destination was moved back against the door, currently you jump forward a bit and lose bearings.
-On one of my tests a zombieman wandered into "that room" and disabled the one-use teleport linedef, maybe block monsters from walking on it? (thankfully map was still completable due to the "co-op" red key)

Besides the technical uses it's a nice little map, I liked all the details that gave context to each room (the closed doors in the crate room, for example), and nice touch with the light beams coming in from the windows! I feel like the north room leading to the exit door could use a bit more decoration though, as it feels a bit bare in the upper portion. Maybe put something against the wall next to the pinky demon in the southeast corner?

Gameplay-wise I played on HMP, and ended up not using the Plasma Rifle at all due to having plenty bullet ammo over at the end. I think you're right that you could've had more enemies teleport in on the way to the exit. Also, having all the monsters in "that room" start facing away from the player was a good idea, makes it fair.

[Anonymous No.2635763]

>>2634080

What I don't like about Doom: One is how it completely misses the point of what his (alleged) source of inspiration achieved. The only original parts of the project go to show how much amateur his mapping skills are.

A fun fact: He did a gameplay video with Brutal Doom, and then a few gaming websites posted his mod, while claiming "how weird and out of place Doom looks with modern FPS tropes". I shit you not.

[Anonymous No.2635809]

>>2635685
>The .wad file has a space in its name, this is a no-no for a wad intended to be vanilla compatible.

Shit, I'll remember that next time. Thanks.

>Chocolate Doom crashes the moment you open the door to the shotgun room, upon using Chocorenderlimits it seems the STEP4 texture on the raised ledge is causing problems, I don't know how to fix this.
I had a vague suspicion it had something to do with that. Maybe using textures like that is a big no-no in pure vanilla limits?

>The switch that lowers the lift to the shotgun can only be activated once, if you miss the lift you can never use it again.
I'll fix that. I never went up there more than once.

>The secret sector where the backpack is is too small/close to the wall, it doesn't activate.
I didn't have this issue on my zDoom, but I'll play with it.

>I think the teleport would look smoother if the destination was moved back against the door, currently you jump forward a bit and lose bearings.
Got it. Old style Doom teleports are weird to work with.

>On one of my tests a zombieman wandered into "that room" and disabled the one-use teleport linedef, maybe block monsters from walking on it? (thankfully map was still completable due to the "co-op" red key)
Hey! It worked out at least. I'll put a monster-blocking Linedef. I totally forgot that of the two teleports (monster only and teleport), that plain-Jane tele allowed monsters too.

Thanks for the advice! I'll fix it up and call it done so I can go back to work on my other project.

[Anonymous No.2635813]

>>2635495
>I meant what >>2635463 understood.

http://www.jmickle.com/genrerator/maptheme.html

Is your friend. It's how I got myself to make my first ever map, even if it was just a dumb gimmick bloated with mp3 audio.

[Anonymous No.2636054]

Borrowing a topic over at Doomworld; what's the (legitimately) weirdest thing the community has ever done (or seen) in Doom?

[Anonymous No.2636067]

>>2636054

Grezzo 2.

I'm a man who has both done and seen many things in video games. And even a few questionable acts in real life. Never has a mod made me feel so uncomfortable and slightly nauseous, but also on some other level, impressed at the amount of work (stolen or not) that went into it.

[Anonymous No.2636078]

hey guys test this for a minute
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbmlwa6hmy8kux5/medievalmod.pk3?dl=0
(super wip, requires GZDoom)

You start with the weapons, but the one new enemy you have to summon by "summon archer" in the console.

The sword has a little plasma ball effect to show it's hitbox in the game world, but you can disable it by changing it's sprite in decorate.

If anyone can figure out why the sword/flesh sound only plays occasionally when a monster is hit I'd be greatful.

[Anonymous No.2636091]

>>2636054
most recently, pic related

[Anonymous No.2636103]

>>2636091

ZanZan? That's from the late 90s!

[Anonymous No.2636104]

>>2636054
I'm going with Impse for historical reasons -- it happened not long after I began lurking the community, so was the first truly WTF community moment and most memorable for me.

[Anonymous No.2636108]

>>2635484
Thanks! Had fun making it.

[Anonymous No.2636113]

>>2636054
>>2636104
My first encounter with Impse was in April 2009 on Skulltag, 4 months before the final version of Jumpmaze came out, only a few weeks after I had started playing ST, and about a year since I started playing Doom. The "main" Jumpmaze server at the time had cheats enabled for a day and someone was spamming "summon impse" in console all over the map. It caught me off guard but I managed to laugh it off.

[Anonymous No.2636126]

>>2635763

Gaming journalists are retarded, film at 11.

[Anonymous No.2636159]

>>2636054
That gay furry dating sim.

[Anonymous No.2636162]

>>2636159

That ain't even on top 10.

[Anonymous No.2636198]

I kinda feel Deus Vult II should have just been a 4-6 level minisode. Even as an unfinished megawad, it looks like the author ran out of ideas.

[Anonymous No.2636238]

[Anonymous No.2636239]

Its time to plow through hordes of twenty fuckzillion aliens again, this time with Epic 2.

[BE] Montreal :: Epic 2 Bug Hunt!

this version includes general improvements to melee, kicking and other small bugfixes and changes to the xenos and weapons.

[Anonymous No.2636265]

>>2635613
As an admittedly mediocre Doomer, I've always found that a hop to the side and getting right back behind the missile works great. It can curve, but I don't think I've ever seen it successfully pull off a 180 degree turn.

[Anonymous No.2636313]

>>2636265
>dodge at the last moment
>shot loops around
>smacks revenant who fired it in his bitch face
I don't even know if it does damage, but it's satisfying.

[Anonymous No.2636317]

>>2636313
Unfortunately this actually can't happen. Projectiles aren't allowed to hit their shooter. You can fake it in DECORATE, though.

[Anonymous No.2636319]

>>2636313
Projectiles will clip through the monster it came from

[Anonymous No.2636323]

>>2636317
>>2636319
I play mods more than vanilla...

[Anonymous No.2636329]

>>2636265
i think this is what i do.

suppose there is a missile coming towards you. position yourself slightly away from a wall (on the left in the diagram).

it's important to start a slight distance out from the wall to leave enough room on the other side of you for the missile to pass

then as it's about to hit you, run forwards towards the missile and simultaneously strafe towards the wall. then the missile will curve around behind you and hit the wall harmlessly.

the forward run seems to be important; the missile's curve is far more likely to keep up if you only strafe left or heaven forfend try to run backwards away from the missile.

as you get better you can do it without stopping, just run towards the missile, gently drift away from the wall to lure the missile out, then hard strafe towards it just before collision

[Anonymous No.2636364]

>>2636317
>>2636319
>>2636323
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/fuckoffskeletons.pk3

[Anonymous No.2636373]

>>2636364

[Anonymous No.2636382]

>>2636198
The near-universal adoption of the "megawad" as the default project scope is one of the worst things to ever happen to the Doom community. Not even kidding.

[Anonymous No.2636386]

>>2635306
New Bethesda blogpost: Honoring the Legacy of Doom

http://bethesda.net/#en/events/game/honoring-the-legacy-of-doom/2015/08/21/14

[Anonymous No.2636404]

>>2636386
>New Bethesda blogpost
Is this newsworthy or just part of their marketing

[Anonymous No.2636409]

>>2636404
The latter, absolutely
Still thought it was worth a post, even if not a spot in the newspost

[Anonymous No.2636413]

>>2636382
I agree so much.

[Anonymous No.2636418]

>>2636386
this is utterly pointless. Three and a half minutes of platitudes

[Anonymous No.2636426]

>>2636409
>even if not a spot in the newspost
oh, right. your use of the backlink suggests otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2636438]

>>2636426
It's kind of ambiguous isn't it. "Reply to this post with news" - does that mean reply to this post to submit things you want in the news post, or just reply to this post to say "just leaving this here, not necessarily a reply to the ongoing conversation"?

[Anonymous No.2636443]

>>2635306
Looking at the archies, looks like the How Doom Combat Will Test Your Skills post (an actually interesting one) was only ever posted once, never in the news:

https://youtu.be/A12sET6EXKI
Seems like the monsters have windups for heavier attacks. We saw this in the demo but some seem to have missed it (revenants rocket barrage, zombie/that new monster's laser, imp's bigger fireball). Also, Nightmare was confirmed (probably everyone knew/suspected about it) though they didn't say what it changes.
>>2636426
News post only says "Please reply to this post with news."

[Anonymous No.2636472]

>>2636238
Always liked that rifle graphic, though the sights always bothered the shit out of me.

Needs a muzzleflash too.

[Anonymous No.2636494]

I was going to say "someone should make sprites out of the D3's archvile model" but fuck that. It looks like the archie is wearing a bootleg body suit of himself.

And to think that at some point these were hi-res graphics.

[Anonymous No.2636497]

>>2636494
Oh god it looks like some halloween costume.

[Anonymous No.2636501]

>>2636472
There's no muzzleflash because it's supposed to be suppressed, I just don't have sprites for that nor the artistic talent to make them.

[Anonymous No.2636514]

>>2636501
Suppressors don't necessarily hide the flash (though they definitively dampen it).

At least add some smoke, like the weapon actor fires out a little translucent gunsmoke actor which rapidly dissipates, it'll look cool in rapid fire.

[Anonymous No.2636521]

just finished innocence: the new technology yesterday. it has a three plutonia-like levels in terms of difficulty & the rest is like ultimate doom on uv in terms of difficulty. my question is, which mini/megawads have levels that have that some sort of balance that are piss easy & which levels make you rage quit immediately?

[Anonymous No.2636537]

>>2636438
>>2636443
>News post only says "Please reply to this post with news."
okay, I will try to reword it for clarity

[Anonymous No.2636581]

>>2636494

The thing with doom 3 is that it relies heavily on bump maps.

That model on pic related only has the colormap that is essentialy grey. And really fucking plain.

The sum of all color, bump and specular maps, rendered, may result in something better, but hardly spriteable.

[Anonymous No.2636590]

>>2636386
This is just PR bullshit.
>the fans say it feels like doom
>what do fans want?
>capturing original
>we're totally fans you guys!

[Anonymous No.2636604]

>>2636364
I said it before and I'll say it again: never fuck with someone who can run endlessly at 60mph.

[Anonymous No.2636685]

>>2635305
wtf is this homo shit OP?

[Anonymous No.2636696]

FUCK UNHOLY CATHEDRAL

WHERE THE HELL DO I EVEN GOOOOOOOOOO?!

[Anonymous No.2636716]

>>2636382

Can't agree enough.

Even if you have the coolest shit, it gets tiring after 30+ maps. This goes in triple for authors or static small teams.

Going Down! is real fuckin' neato, but you kinda want to be done with it by 20 maps in, even though they're all tiny and bite sized.

[Anonymous No.2636728]

>Post yfw 1% Health

[Anonymous No.2636732]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636734]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636736]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636737]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636746]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636765]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636770]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2636778]

>>2636728
and then a hitscan appears

[Anonymous No.2636780]

>>2636728
>1% health
>only way out is through a damaging floor
>no radsuits

[Anonymous No.2636782]

>>2636728
If a game that = doom + quake (doom graphics & gameplay, full 3D), would you buy it?

[Anonymous No.2636785]

>>2636728
1% health is my real life berserk pack
ALL OR NOTHING, HERE I COME FUCKERS

[Anonymous No.2636787]

>>2636780
>1% health
>Rad suit
>Walk on damaging floor
>Damage leaks through

>>2636782
In a perfect world that's what Doom 4 would be.

[Anonymous No.2636790]

>>2636787
What if I'm working on one right now and I'm trying to check for demand?

[Anonymous No.2636791]

>>2636790
Then I hope it comes out good.

[Anonymous No.2636798]

>>2636782
>>2636787
>>2636790
>>2636791

Good luck. Considering the recent onslaught of "retro" FPSes trying to be "like Doom", you'll have a lot of bitten cynics.

[Anonymous No.2636807]

>>2636791
It will.
>Proper modding with good scripting, not hacks
>Radiant/Hammer style level editor, fast & simple
>Generates sprites from 3D models, no need to flip pixels by hand

>>2636798
I know what you're saying. The ones I've seen are getting it wrong. Like that one with the acid blood that totally kills the pace.
Gameplay-wise my core is based on this article, and mini-maxing it:
http://vectorpoem.com/news/?p=74

[Anonymous No.2636810]

>>2636778
Y'know I wish there was atleast one more matrix game made for next gen like 360 or PS3 that gen.

There's so much potential but the games we got weren't bad, they just could have been better.

Path of Neo a best.
Although I probably shouldn't say that since nowadays the scenes where they dodge bullets would probably be quicktime events because fuck you

>PRESS SQUARE TO DODGE BULLET

[Anonymous No.2636815]

>>2636807
>Generates sprites from 3D models, no need to flip pixels by hand
Hey, is this theoretically possible to do at run-time, i.e infinite rotation "sprites" which can have actual shadows cast on them?

[Anonymous No.2636816]

I want to get into FPS games, but I don't know where to start. I really enjoyed Metroid Prime, so I'd like to find more games with a similar setting and atmosphere. The closest thing that came to mind was Quake II, which I'm downloading now. From what I saw of the game, it reminded me of the versus mode in Metroid Prime 2.

I've already tried Doom and Duke Nukem, but couldn't get into those series.

Any recommendations? Maybe something that involves robots in space stations.

[Anonymous No.2636818]

>>2636815
That's what I did.
Tho I haven't tested world shadows.

[Anonymous No.2636824]

>>2636818
That sounds pretty cool, what's the performance like?

[Anonymous No.2636830]

>>2636824
I only prototyped it so far, haven't implemented the optimization draft I have. In theory after optimization it should be as fast as regular sprites, if not better because of efficient texture bin packing and big texture atlases.

Btw it can do full sphere of sprites (up and down too).

[Anonymous No.2636831]

>>2636818
>That's what I did
Fuck YES. I've had the idea of doing this for a long fucking time and haven't even seen anyone else do it yet.

You don't suppose you could post a render of some really simple object like a bunch of spheres and squares using this method? Or even better a webm.

[Anonymous No.2636836]

>>2636816

If you want Metroid Prime-esque, then check out Powerslave EX, see if you can find a surviving download. It was a great Metroid Prime game before Metroid Prime even existed.

If you want robots in space stations, then check out Descent and DXX-Rebirth. Prepare for vertigo.

[Anonymous No.2636841]

>>2636728
>mfw managing a difficult situation while almost dead
>mfw maneuvering and slaying like a slick motherfucker
>mfw reach exit room and health is waiting for me as a reward
WOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.2636842]

>>2636816
if you are just starting with FPS series go for original Half-Life, it will remind you of Prime.
its dirt cheap on steam, or you can just pirate it.

if you like the idea of exploring unknown alien world, you may want to try Unreal. now I am talking about normal unreal game, not the "tournament" version, while its great, its not a singleplayer game and you will get shredded by veteran community.

another game you may like is S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl.
either buy it or pirate, when you pirate make sure you patch, and dont instal any mods, you gotta taste the vanila first.
then prepare for spooks, vodka, jamming weapons and bandits in tracksuits

[Anonymous No.2636843]

>>2636198
>>2636382
Yeah I agree.

[Anonymous No.2636846]

>>2636830
*full sphere is important for full 3D

>>2636831
I do have an old demo on YouTube of the first successful run (Been greatly improved since):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igu4jK7EjRU

[Anonymous No.2636848]

>>2636846
Really nice work. Would it possible to have the amount of rotations restricted to emulate a storage restriction?

[Anonymous No.2636852]

>>2636848
Already implemented in the current version.
Angle snap size (rotation), raster size, and animation frame rate are controllable.

[Anonymous No.2636867]

>>2636816
Quake II is fun, even if there's fags who shit on it.

Why couldn't you get into Doom?

[Anonymous No.2636873]

>>2636846
Damn, it looks just as good as I expected it would. Really wishing you the best of luck with this.

Will the game world also be mosaiced or whatever you call it?

[Anonymous No.2636878]

>>2636873
not sure what you mean with mosaiced.
If you're talking about level design, I want to have something abstract that will support the gameplay.
If you're talking about setting or plot, I don't have anything specific for now.

[Anonymous No.2636880]

>>2636878
When he said mosaiced I was thinking pixelated.

[Anonymous No.2636885]

>>2636878
>>2636880
Yes, I mean pixellated. I said "mosaiced" because that's what photoshop calls the effect, my only reference point. As in, will the game world be rendered by through the same pixel filter your models/sprites use?

[Anonymous No.2636886]

>>2636852
Sounds great if it works flawlessly! Have you got an animation demo?

[Anonymous No.2636894]

>>2636880
>>2636885
Oh, ok. That could either mean low res textures or no texture filtering. Filtering will be configurable, and textures aren't decided yet.
Either way the goal is to make the game look good. Whatever will look consistent with the sprites.

>>2636886
I don't have any good model to make animation demo (only free models with basic animation that comes out bad).

[Anonymous No.2636912]

>>2636728

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47u-GSFAiEI

[Anonymous No.2636929]

Why doesnt someone just make Doom 4 in the Quake 1 engine

[Anonymous No.2636935]

>>2636929
well why dont YOU do it smartass?

[Anonymous No.2636938]

Does anyone have a mod that displays enemy health like a healthbar or a number or something?

I just want a mod that shows enemy health and preferably nothing else.

I just like to be able to see how many more shots it's gonna take to kill my foes. I feel more comfortable in this knowledge.

[Anonymous No.2636942]

>>2636929
Why would you willingly degrade the graphics?
I'd want doom 4 fixed up with proper mods, not a fan recreation.

[Anonymous No.2636946]

>>2636929
Because I'd like more than 50 polygons per monster.

[Anonymous No.2636975]

>>2636938
Let me clarify I just want a mod that displays enemy health and changes nothing else beyond that.

[Anonymous No.2636991]

>>2636938
>>2636975

Just get Kyle873's DoomRPG. It does that, and the *few* other changes it makes are hardly noticeable.

Hope that helps! :)

[Anonymous No.2637002]

>>2636991
>It does that, and the *few* other changes it makes are hardly noticeable.

You are a fucking liar.

[Anonymous No.2637005]

>>2636938
PrBoom+ has an option for healthbars

[Anonymous No.2637029]

>>2637005
I use Gzdoom though.

I was looking for a healthbar mod that would be easily compatible with other mods or just for vanilla uses.

>>2636991
How retarded do you think I am anon?

[Anonymous No.2637031]

>>2637029
>or just for vanilla uses.
That's why I recommended PrB+

[Anonymous No.2637046]

>>2637031
does PrB+ Support smooth doom? Because that's honestly what I aim to use it with.

that or beautiful doom.

[Anonymous No.2637050]

>>2637046
>tfw beautiful doom will never have unfucked auto-aim
>tfw smooth doom will never have brightmaps
Why is nothing perfect

[Anonymous No.2637059]

>>2637046
Nope. Those don't count as vanilla.
>>2637050
Fairly sure the Beautiful Doom dev said he wanted to remove the autoaim requirements. But I haven't kept up with development.
About Smooth Doom. Don't the default brightmaps work? Or the modified ones? In any case, I wouldn't discard the possibility of them being added.

[Anonymous No.2637062]

>>2637059
Smooth Doom adds a bunch of inbetween animations that don't have corresponding brightmap frames. Seems like someone would have to sit down and create the "missing" ones.

[Anonymous No.2637090]

A question for you guys: how are music files defined in Doom 1? Are the intro/intermission names hardcoded? Does this mean the game just looks for D_EXMX.MUS or is it defined in some other lump?

[Anonymous No.2637137]

Is there a (G)Zdoom type of source port for Build Engine games? I'm trying to play Shadow Warrior but the Redux version has fucked up mouse aiming and I just can't bear it anymore.

[Anonymous No.2637143]

>Thats a nice WAD you got there, wanna let me help you to improve it?

[Anonymous No.2637154]

>>2637137
You want this:

http://www.jonof.id.au/jfsw

Since it's been reverse-engineered, don't expect high levels of accuracy/stability. This is definitely the best you're ever going to get until 3D Realms coughs up the game's source code.

[Anonymous No.2637173]

>>2637154
>until 3D Realms coughs up the game's source code
You mean Shadow Warrior's source code was never released? Why? I thought only Blood was a Build Engine game that didn't have its source code released.

[Anonymous No.2637182]

>>2637173
Duke3D was the only 3D Realms game to have its source code released as far as I know. Since SW shares a lot with D3D's code it wasn't as crazy as writing new game logic from scratch (Blood).

[Anonymous No.2637203]

>>2637182
>Duke3D was the only 3D Realms game to have its source code released as far as I know

Shadow Warrior had its source released long ago.

ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/source/shadowwarriorsource.zip

[Anonymous No.2637210]

>>2637203
Oh, wow. Then I guess people just don't bother.

[Anonymous No.2637215]

>>2637137
>>2637182
You guys are just reminding me how much I want to see pic related in a crossover buddy cop movie.

I'm sad now.

[Anonymous No.2637258]

>>2636782
that depends

[Anonymous No.2637263]

Anyone else working on a map for the /vr/ project? I've started on one and making reasonable progress (I think). I did start with zero experience outside of tutorials though so there's a 1994 vibe.

[Anonymous No.2637287]

>>2636728
How I usually end up

[Anonymous No.2637294]

>>2637287
what wad is that

[Anonymous No.2637295]

>>2637263
What location is your map based on?

[Anonymous No.2637296]

>>2637294

It's a drawing.
It's not a wad.
Why would you even ask that?

[Anonymous No.2637305]

>>2637294
Not a wad, Marathon chapter screen. (Maybe next time I'll bring at least a pistol.)

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637312]

>>2635305
I was roaming around looking for Doom shit to download and this triggered me quite a bit:

http://vectorpoem.com/news/?p=74

Laughed at the comment almost at the bottom that rekts him though.

[Anonymous No.2637325]

>>2636728
>Pst yfw 100% Health

[Anonymous No.2637327]

>>2637312

You're a dumbass, because that's a good article and the poster was an autist.

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637337]

>>2637327
I'm a dumbass for realizing the guy who wrote it was a retarded fuck-toy hipster who thought he was some knower of arcane knowledge because he made a doom map? Lol, go fuck off. The dipshit had no idea what he was talking about, you 16 year old, and I doubt the cunt even read a single page from the Doom Bible to see what the original design philosophy behind the game was, or to see where the inspiration came from.

Tempest being an inspiration for Doom? Lol, you're a fucking nitwit.

[Anonymous No.2637348]

>>2637337
>I'm a dumbass

Yes.

[Anonymous No.2637350]

the old FPSes that grognard mentions are all totally dog shit.

dactyl nightmare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6t69mp0ZhE
exorex: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0SmB0i9Ato
starglider: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVldpx04V8

we should thank our lord jesus christ every day that if these are the first person games that came before doom, that doom didn't draw any inspiration from them at all.

[Anonymous No.2637352]

>>2637312
The guy is right though. Doom is unique in that your mobility is your main defense against everything. Hell you can flat out outrun every projectile except for missles, plasma shots, and mancubi fireballs.

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637357]

>>2637352
>Doom is unique in that your mobility is your main defense against everything

Yes, he makes very obvious statements. And also ones that are laughably naive.

>>2637348
>hurr let me shitpost to support myself, that'll work

Nice work junior, done sucking off daddy yet?

[Anonymous No.2637360]

look you faggots, rather than bickering over stupid shit, let's argue about the real problem:

Where the fuck did these chaingunners come from and why are we not genociding those hitscanning bastards

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637361]

>>2637350
>we should thank our lord jesus christ every day that if these are the first person games that came before doom, that doom didn't draw any inspiration from them at all.

Look out, it's the guy who wrote the article! Kek

Nah, just Catacombs 3D, Wolfenstein 3D, Hovertank 3D, Maze War, and Ultima Underworld: The Stygian Abyss came before DOOM.

Not that any of those ever had any meaningful impact on the gaming industry, or the first person genre right?

[Anonymous No.2637367]

>>2637348
>Hipster

Just don't bother with this retard.

[Anonymous No.2637368]

>>2637350
>Dactyl Nightmare
>Starglider
>shit

Literally kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.2637369]

>>2637360
>having trouble with hitscanners
They are easy to fend off.

[Anonymous No.2637370]

>>2637361
And Old-Timer McGee doesn't even mention any of those, except for the Catacomb 3D games, which he only mentions in order to describe them as "realistic". Uh, OK.

[Anonymous No.2637372]

>>2637367
Or this one.

[Anonymous No.2637375]

>>2637369

They're a huge pain in the ass, and they're one of the biggest things that kill me.

Mainly because I'm caught at low percent and I get sniped in the asscheek from across the map. Damn those guys suck

[Anonymous No.2637378]

>>2637046

oh god it's already happening

[Anonymous No.2637392]

>>2637370
It looked like he was pointing out that FPS games have been around a lot longer than the guy who wrote the article thought they were (which they were).

It's funny how the guy who wrote the article said the game feels like all those shooters he mentions, but then makes his "Arcadia Demade" map fucking barren.

>>2637348
These kinds of replies are LITERALLY always talking about themselves. If there was ever one kind of poster I'd wish I could punch through my monitor.

[Anonymous No.2637395]

>>2637348
did u just call yourself a dumbass?

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637401]

>>2637375
Use the rocket launcher to fire and forget at them from behind a corner. Their wind-up animation will play as your ammunition is heading straight for them.

[Anonymous No.2637416]

>>2637143
sure

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637420]

>>2636521
Fava Beans?

[Anonymous No.2637423]

>>2637295
I signed up for MAP31, so Secret Nazi Moon Base (on the basis that someone else claimed the Lunar Landing).

The layout is a vertical swastika with the player starting in one corner. The whole thing's in Wolf textures with SS troopers and pinkies. I've put up support pillars so you can dodge between cover. Also in the middle there's a huge pillar to block firefights across the middle and keep ambushes working.

In each corner of the swastika (except the one you start in) there's a door to a short techbase-type area with more varied enemies. Only one starts unlocked. At the end of each one there's a key to unlock the next area but getting it releases an arch-vile into the swastika to resurrect the SS troopers and pinkies.

Once you've beaten all three doors, use the final key on a switch near the middle to open up the big central pillar, revealing the exit and a cyberdemon.

So far I've built the main swastika and the first section (a computer maze). I was planning to make the other two something nukage-y and something dark and strobey with spectres.

[Anonymous No.2637431]

>>2637392
>but then makes his "Arcadia Demade" map fucking barren.
to be fair, he was copying a level from a modern FPS, so it made sense

[Anonymous No.2637448]

>>2637090
>the game just looks for D_EXMX
this is correct. the names are hardcoded, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.2637452]

>>2637431
That doom level was made by the exact same guy who designed the bioshock level, IIRC.

[Anonymous No.2637453]

>>2637337
this kind of attitude and insult-throwing is not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.2637457]

>>2637452
yes.

and just like a modern title the final release was full of bugs which were never patched ;)

[Anonymous No.2637459]

>>2637392
Hey, Arcadia Demade wasn't that bad. I've seen far worse maps in Hellbound.

And Bioshock 1 and 2 are pretty decent games, despite not living up to the System Shock series.

[Anonymous No.2637470]

>>2637395
anon do you know how quotes work
they aren't just maymay arrows

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637474]

>>2637453
>this kind of attitude and insult-throwing is not welcome here.

Then the shit-bird shouldn't of replied to me the way he did, IE, defensively and immaturely, as if he wrote the fucking thing.

>>2637459
The maps in Hellbound are beautiful, the problem is that they lack pacing for shit.

>>2637470
Nah, I'm pretty sure the fuck-offed faggot just called himself a dumbass, since I know he wasn't referring to me, someone who's objectively more intelligent than him.

[Anonymous No.2637485]

>>2637210
Shadow Warrior has a very small community, from what I've noticed. Even smaller than Blood's, funnily enough.

[Anonymous No.2637487]

>>2637474
>The maps in Hellbound are beautiful, the problem is that they lack pacing for shit.

I should've phrased it as
>I've played far worse maps in Hellbound.
Cause thats what I meant.

Though IMO, Hellbound's visuals are hit and miss for me. Some levels have very odd texture combinations.

[Anonymous No.2637492]

>>2637474
>https://archive.moe/_/search/boards/a.an.biz.c.co.diy.fit.gd.gif.h.i.int.jp.k.m.mlp.out.po.q.qa.r9k.s4s.sci.tg.tv.u.v.vg.vp.wsg/tripcode/!MAxPETUTTk/
/tv/ and /v/. What are the odds.

[Anonymous No.2637494]

>>2637492

okay we've acknowledged he's a useless poster, now let's just ignore his dumb ass.

[Anonymous No.2637510]

>>2637474
>Then the shit-bird shouldn't of replied to me the way he did, IE, defensively and immaturely, as if he wrote the fucking thing.
>disagreeing with you means he wrote the thing

Heh.

>>2637494

I dunno, I kind of find him cute in a sort of "petulent toddler" kind of way.

[Anonymous No.2637519]

Still working on Map05

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmremakev4.wad

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2637539]

>>2637494
>>2637510
>Samefagging your jerk-off posting this hard because of how raped you were
It's okay, I'll go get some tumblrites to help defend your sore ass.

>okay we've acknowledged he's a useless poster, now let's just ignore his dumb ass.
>says the useless shitposter saying nothing of value
Congrats! You can off yourself in the tub now.

>/tv/ and /v/. What are the odds.
Oh wow, you can cross-reference tripcodes! Look, he's at elementary level now!

But whatever, keep crying about you have absolutely nothing left to say about my criticisms other than irrelevant abusive ad hominem.

>>2637487
The thing with large maps like the ones in Hellbound is, they have to be interesting. Making them simply to impress with scale is very hard to do.

[Anonymous No.2637562]

>>2636382
I think megawads are fine if they have a loose story, and the mapper/team behind it are capable to ensure consistency. Stuff like Scythe series, Alien Vendetta, Speed of Doom, and BTSX are Megawads done the right way.

But I am sick to death of megawads that are just a Collection, or merely based on a concept. They almost never give me the incentive to play them from start to finish, and always result in me just cherry picking maps to pistol start. These types of megawads could have been released Master Levels style instead, and nothing would be lost out of it. Stuff like Community Chest series, 1024 series, 10 Sectors, and Five Rooms of Doom are Megawads of this kind.

[Anonymous No.2637567]

>>2637539
>multiple people can't possibly be calling me a douchebag! it must be the SAMEFAGS!

nah m8

[Anonymous No.2637568]

>>2637519
What wad is this? The pic alone looks cool.

[Anonymous No.2637569]

>>2637567
Stop giving him attention and report him. How hard can it fucking be?

[Anonymous No.2637572]

>>2637568
iirc, a port of GBADM (gameboy advance deathmatch maps)

[Anonymous No.2637593]

>>2637572
How crazy.. I remember playing the gba port when it came out and not thinking much of it. I certainly never bothered with its deathmatch option.. how good could it have really been lol

[Anonymous No.2637614]

>>2637325
>Mfw 100% Health

[Anonymous No.2637621]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2637623]

>>2637325

[Anonymous No.2637657]

>>2637325

[Anonymous No.2637661]

>>2636728

[Anonymous No.2637673]

Report and ignore guys

[Anonymous No.2637702]

>>2637673
The janitors haven't been responding in a timely fashion to reports for a while now.

[Anonymous No.2637709]

>>2637621
>>2637623
Would be better if they weren't so uniform with the looking.

[Anonymous No.2637716]

>>2637702
I received a warning for reported a thread that was basically some guys fanfic about a RPG he wanted to make. The thread got deleted anyways. I don't think there's a janitor here all the time.

[Anonymous No.2637719]

Is marrub in here? I can't into git commits because I'm still stuck in the 90s, but have a little fix for GLOOME for you.

The 1680x1050 resolution on 16:10 monitors doesn't work under OpenGL mode under non-Windows systems. The fix:

Line 107 in /src/posix/sdl/sdlglvideo.cpp
For some reason { 1600, 1000 }, is listed twice, so this should be replaced with ( 1680, 1050 },

Thats it. I'm temporarily using a 16:10 monitor, so that is why I noticed. I normally use my television as my monitor, which is 1080p, but I was using it to watch TV.

[Anonymous No.2637723]

crusher-satyr anon from earlier

some progress on map, its vanilla comp and constantly tested with chocolate doom

balancing idea I had
for every 10 monsters place 10 healthpoints on map.
so if map ends up with 300 monsters, put 300 hp worth of health pickups

easy difficulty: 20 hp and 20 armor for 10 monsters
normal difficulty: 10 hp and 10 armor for 10 monsters
hard difficulty: 5hp and 5armor for 10 monsters

feedback/ideas on this?

[Anonymous No.2637724]

>>2637719
Also, I think the current gzdoom master needs this too, which is weird, because it used to have this line. Not like it would hurt to not have it. Zandronum still has it.

[Anonymous No.2637735]

>>2637723
that seems pretty stingy, but obviously i'd have to try it. of course it depends on a lot more than purely population count as to what damage you'll need to heal; monster type, placement (whether you're likely to see it before it can damage you - an imp in a large space is unlikely to damage you at all, but being teleported into a small closet with one right next you is likely to hurt) etc.

[Anonymous No.2637738]

>>2637735
I am balancing this map with my skills, as in I consider myself below average when it comes to doom, so all testing in chocolate is done on HMP with all monsters and items spawning.
UV is meant to be hard difficulty, not normal.

[Anonymous No.2637750]

>>2637723
I think it should depend on which monsters are used, not just how many of them.

I mean, what if the map was just 10 cyberdemons?

[Anonymous No.2637752]

>>2637723
Surely it depends on what the monsters are, not on the quantity, as >>2637735 said. Maybe you could balance it to the total monster HP instead (use the Doom wiki) but like >>2637735
said, it depends on placement as well.

Personally I prefer the IWAD method of balancing by altering the number of enemies present rather than altering the health & ammo present but that's just changing the nature of the problem.

[marrub No.2637789]

>>2637719
Thanks, I thought there was some reason for that when looking at the code since it was in mainline. Fixing now.

[marrub No.2637793]

>>2637789
Ah, wait, I already removed that duplicate. For some reason the commit that I merged removed 1680x1050, so I'll be adding that now.

[Anonymous No.2637805]

>>2637789
another anon here
what do you think of having obj support for modeldef in gloome? is it doable?

[Anonymous No.2637809]

>>2637305
Is that really official art? I thought that they had Craig Mullins doing the still artwork. Did he not do the in game work?

[Anonymous No.2637823]

>>2635809
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=ao42ro

FDA for vanillic acid in 9:22, misses one monster which seems to be stuck in a teleporter, gets all secrets (i had read the previous comments about some of them)

this was very good, looks nice without being horribly overdetailed, i like the scenery views.

gameplay is okay, mostly shoot from the doorway kind of stuff. the helltrap was a good idea, it might have killed me if the monsters weren't looking in the wrong direction. the two barons by the exit aren't much of a threat.

as for bugs as the other fellow mentioned >>2635685 there are a few single-use lines that should be repeatable, the shotgun lift as he said, and the four lines that teleport the imps to the entrance hall, were those i noticed. in vanilla compatibility the lines get used up even if the monster doesn't teleport upon crossing it.

also another vanilla compatibility issue, you will notice in the demo there are two stimpacks which have levitated up onto the top edge of a switch (sector 152) because they're too close to it when a nearby sector moves. somehow later they fell back down again, which is rather unusual for this type of bug.

simply moving some of the items around up on the ledge would fix this, but i think the best idea may be to rotate the switch and move it back against the wall, since you can quite easily press the switch from below (unless this was intentional).

[Anonymous No.2637857]

>>2635809
>>2637823 (me)
http://temp-host.com/download.php?file=bw51ew

here's a boom complevel demo for vanillic acid that gets 100% kills. i am pleased with how well punching that hellknight by the lift went. i also allow myself to get mauled by a baron in order to spend less time waiting in the exit cage.

another issue i noticed: if you're going quickly, as i was here, the green armour secret is easy to fly over and not get credit for it.

[marrub No.2637864]

>>2637805
I don't really see why you would want that, but I suppose it might be doable.

[Anonymous No.2637865]

>>2635809
>>Chocolate Doom crashes the moment you open the door to the shotgun room, upon using Chocorenderlimits it seems the STEP4 texture on the raised ledge is causing problems, I don't know how to fix this.
>I had a vague suspicion it had something to do with that. Maybe using textures like that is a big no-no in pure vanilla limits?

this is most likely the medusa error. STEP4 is a texture made of more than one patch. you can't have multipatch textures on the middle texture of a two-sided line, it will freeze up the game or crash it.

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Medusa_effect

[Anonymous No.2637868]

>>2635809
>>Chocolate Doom crashes the moment you open the door to the shotgun room, upon using Chocorenderlimits it seems the STEP4 texture on the raised ledge is causing problems, I don't know how to fix this.
>I had a vague suspicion it had something to do with that. Maybe using textures like that is a big no-no in pure vanilla limits?

this is most likely the medusa error. STEP4 is a texture made of more than one patch. you can't have multipatch textures on the middle texture of a two-sided line, it will freeze up the game or crash it.

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Medusa_effect

edited to add/emphasise that every source port since boom fixed it, it's a vanilla problem only.

[Anonymous No.2637923]

Google wasn't turning anything up for me so I figure someone here may be able to help me. Me and a friend were trying out some Brutal Doom deathmatch through zandronum and were having an issue. Whenever we spawn and sometimes randomly we won't be able to move. We just mashed jump and crouch and tried moving until it worked. Happened every time we spawned. Anyone know a fix?

[Anonymous No.2637925]

>>2637923
We are using the latest v20

[Anonymous No.2637946]

>>2637864
I guess he wants to use the myriad of free random objects in .obj format available on various sites. Converting to md3 works fine for me though

Anyway unless you haven't seen it already, please take a look at and consider implementing:
>http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=49391

..and possibly the same features for actors spawned by a FastProjectile through it's MissileType (trail) function.

[Anonymous No.2637970]

Requesting hdoom gifs and webbums

[Anonymous No.2637984]

>>2636780
>damaging floor is a tiny sector
>chance i could survive running over it
>die anyway

[Anonymous No.2638006]

So, is somebody going to ask the tough question to Kinsie or not?

[Anonymous No.2638048]

>>2638006
Why don't you do it nigga?

[Anonymous No.2638057]

>>2637448
Thanks for clarifying. This leads to my next question, does vanilla Doom (even older revisions) support extra levels after the 9th per episode? I'm not talking about a 4th episode, I'm talking an extra secret level, like EXM10.

Also, are modern doom editors backwards compatible with the aforementioned older revisions like pre-1.6?

[Anonymous No.2638070]

>>2638048

because I don't have a forum account?

[Anonymous No.2638084]

>>2638057
Well there was the sewer level in the xbox version that came with Doom 3 that was technically E1M10. But pure vanilla I have no idea.

[Anonymous No.2638126]

>>2638057
The mapslot E1M10 or E1M0 is not supported by vanilla. I believe the xbox version used its own source port for this.

[Anonymous No.2638142]

>>2635306
Jedi Knight II Touch is free for limited time.
http://www.amazon.com/Beloko-Games-JK2-Touch/dp/B0143INHXG/

Not sure if /vr/ enough but eh.

[Anonymous No.2638148]

>>2638126
indeed, it seems impossible to -warp or idclev to maps numbered higher than 9, at least in chocolate doom.

[Anonymous No.2638168]

>>2638006
>>2638048
>>2638070

Tough question? What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.2638187]

>>2638168

people were wondering if they were going to be able to play the new update of Reelism on pre-2.0 GZdoom

[Anonymous No.2638189]

>>2638084
>>2638126
>>2638084
I see, thank you. I also asked if common map editors are backwards compatible with early vanillas, is that the case?

[Anonymous No.2638204]

>>2638189
Outside of maybe some 1994 editors that ran on DOS, I doubt you'll find anything that'll design maps for versions earlier than 1.9

[Anonymous No.2638220]

>>2638204
Welp, and there isn't a fast way to make them compatible, right? I wanted to make some cool WAD that ran on my 486 but I might as well set up a modding environment there. Do you know which one of those 1994 editors is the best or was at least the one with most care put into?

[Anonymous No.2638226]

aight
what the fuck
plutonia 2
first level has mancubi

[Anonymous No.2638231]

>>2638226

you're playing a user-made wad, specifically made for the hardest iwad of the bunch

be glad that plutonia-style maps don't rely on slaughter gameplay (with the exception of ONE map, of course)

[Anonymous No.2638232]

>>2638226
so does plutonia map01. what's your point exactly?

[Anonymous No.2638234]

>>2638231
wait did it? it's been a while

[Anonymous No.2638237]

>>2638204
>>2638220
there aren't any fundamentally incompatible changes to the wad format though.

[Anonymous No.2638296]

Can someone get me up to date with Doom 4? I haven't checked anything out since the first trailer because sites that would report on it are all shills that would mask any and all shortcomings.

[Anonymous No.2638310]

>>2638296
try asking the non-retro games board?

[Anonymous No.2638364]

>>2637420
l-link?

[Anonymous No.2638376]

>Kama Sutra map 20 and 21
>On Complex Doom
I hate playing with mods and then the map decides to throw a curve ball the player, it's like the curve-ball is made out of solid steel and was accelerated at 7000mp/h.

[Anonymous No.2638401]

>>2638226
Plutonia 2 is a hard sequel to an already hard Plutonia. What did you expect?

Just be glad they didn't put Arch-viles in map01 like the original did.

[Anonymous No.2638403]

>>2638376
>I hate playing with mods
did you actually mean this? because there's an obvious solution - if you hate playing with mods, don't do it!

[Anonymous No.2638418]

>>2638401
the two in the original aren't particularly nasty either

one is up on a ledge and although it keeps resurrecting a chaingunner you can more or less ignore it if you don't hang around too much

the other is released from a trap when you grab the super shotgun. but there's plenty of cover in the room, from the crates, and, of course, you'll have a super shotgun.

i think the one that teleports behind you when you pick up the red key on map03, blocking your escape, is much nastier than both of these.

[Anonymous No.2638436]

>>2638403
I don't hate playing with mods, I just hate playing with mods and then the map cranks the difficulty up, it's pretty fun watching a BFG soldier destroy every other enemy while trying to kill me or using a necronomicon on flaming revanent (forgot it's name) and watch it blast and punch a bunch of enemies to death.

[Anonymous No.2638439]

Dr.Pavel?

I'm UAC.

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2638442]

>>2638364
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/0-9/01fava.zip

It's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.2638449]

>>2638442
Didn't one of the maps in Fava Beans get remixed for MM2?

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2638453]

>>2638449
>MM2

Maybe it's because I've only got 5 hours of sleep, but I'm not sure what you're referring to.

[Anonymous No.2638458]

>>2638453

memento mori 2

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2638460]

>>2638436
I find some gameplay mods like Brutal Doom to be fun when playing WAD's that are strictly just new levels and not TC's or partial TC's.

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2638467]

>>2638458
Oh, right. I played the first one, but it's on my "to play" list.

[Anonymous No.2638516]

>>2638449
yeah, either 24 or 31, i forget which

[Anonymous No.2638520]

>>2637823
>>2637857

There's a weird, tingly feeling when you get to watch other people play your map. I'm gonna bring it up to true vanilla compatibility and fix the bugs people brought up, add more warp-ins after the hell room.

[Anonymous No.2638525]

>Picked up Risen3D

>"ooh doom with 3d models this oughta be neat."

OH NO I WAS WRONG HOLY FUCKING SHIT

JESUS CHRIST SAVE ME FROM THIS HELL!

[Anonymous No.2638528]

Btw is anyone here excited about the new Doom? Yes it does look awfully modernized and the executions will get repetitive, but I am gonna try it out.

Do you think it will get godly mods like the real Doom, or is will it be another modern FPS with the Doom brand slapped on it?

[Anonymous No.2638540]

>>2638528

My confidence in it is zero.

>Romero Status: MMMMMmmm gone.
>Cyberdemon design: fucked alien Serious Sam garbage.
>Editor Status: Kiddy-tier memory-limit locked garbage that will be fun for consoles, but won't even remotely offer any real power or creativity.
>Actual Editor Status: Maybe later. (cough cough Rage)
>Chainsaw Status: Delegated to sticky QTE kills.
>Multiplayer Status: Looks promising actually, but will die out in probably a year or less.

etc etc

[Anonymous No.2638541]

>>2638528
signs point to godly but like you said repetitive. just like doom3

I cant imagine it will have as much replay ability as the first 2

[Anonymous No.2638550]

>>2638528
That revenant has a cute cartooney face.

[Anonymous No.2638590]

>>2638528
So far it looks like it'll be Halo meets Painkiller. Not sure if want.

[Anonymous No.2638596]

>>2638516
24, as the start of that map resembles greatly with the start of fava beans e1m7

[Anonymous No.2638598]

>>2638528
As someone who grew up with Half-Life and went backwards to discover Doom source ports, enjoyed Doom 3 co-op and currently enjoying Resurrection Evil, I can clearly see the issues with Doom 4 but I am willing to give it a chance and just play it as-is just like with Doom 3. There could be some fun to salvage from it.

My biggest issue with Doom 3 wasn't with the flashlight, but the run button and limited stamina. Run speed should be default.

[Anonymous No.2638648]

>>2638598
Worst thing with doom 3 was the level design and the schizophreny of it's gameplay elements (story based moody survival horror with logs and cutscenes + linear arcadey combat). Had it been a pure system shock-esque game it could have been wonderful, same if it'd been quake 4 except better (though I actually like q4).

[Anonymous No.2638672]

So guys, assuming Doom 4 is successful, do you assume the next thing ID will work on is Quake 5? It's pretty much confirmed to be a cthulhu-ish setting, so that will be intresting. We don't have too many like that these days.

[Anonymous No.2638681]

>>2638672
Why not merge the two storylines and have cyborg cthulhu?

[Anonymous No.2638707]

>>2637923
>>2637925

Sounds like a SetPlayerProperty script isn't firing properly.

[Anonymous No.2638729]

>>2638672
Speaking of new FPS games, something I'd really enjoy is a current gen game patterned after Project MSX. I think that mod strikes a beatiful balance between old and new FPS mechanics.

[Anonymous No.2638770]

>>2638648
On paper, all those design elements does seem like a cluster fuck. I can't believe I'm actually defending Doom 3, but whatever.

>story based
I love the cutscenes. Enough to establish a context for this hell demon murder arcade game.

>cutscenes
Again, not too much to look like a cutscene-corridor-cutscene modern shooter. My favorite cutscenes are the ones played everytime to introduce a new type of monster. The most memorable one is when you hear a distant cry while exploring, you find a female scientist and she has the life force sucked out of her skin. Her head and spine pops off and turns into a Lost Soul.

>horror
This one is interesting because Doom, objectively speaking, should remain arcadey. But Doom 3 sort of gets a pass because for the first time ever, this approach is actually fully backed and justified by the tech. id Tech 4 is moody as fuck with the super impressive dynamic lighting, bump mapping and stencil hard shadows. I would say the graphics have definitely aged well, minus the low poly cone head characters.

>logs
I have no idea where audio logs originated from, the only two games that come to mind is System Shock 2 and Doom 3, but I feel this radio and log bullshit wasn't oversaturated in 2004. I don't really have an issue with this. Going through my PDA for storage codes was pretty neat.

>Quake 4
I actually thought Quake 4 was forgettable and bland, although I did love the torture scene. Prey is better than all of the above though.

Doom 3 should've had co-op built right in, but that's just me and even though it would go against the whole creepy theme. But you can be creeped out together with a friend.

[Anonymous No.2638817]

>>2638520
>There's a weird, tingly feeling when you get to watch other people play your map.
it's great isn't it? make more demo-friendly maps and you'll get recordings of them.

[Anonymous No.2638861]

>>2638770
>I love the cutscenes
Me too actuall
>logs
I liked them too, though there was a bit too much filler compared to ss2.

I didn't mean those elements were bad at all, but the levels and the combat didn't fit with the approach at all and vice versa. If level progression had been objective based and the base much more open for exploration (again, like system shock 2) and the combat more tactical rather than arcadey, it would have been a great game - though not really doom in anything but name. That would have been fine with me.

>I actually thought Quake 4 was forgettable and bland
But it's much more similar to doom than doom 3 in my opinion. I liked the combat/gunplay.
> Prey is better than all of the above though.
I'd say it's on par with quake 4, except for the visual/character design which is overall much better. I loathed the spirit shooting minigame upon death however, just as bad as bioshocks respawning.

[Anonymous No.2638894]

>>2638540
>>2638590
These people piss me off to no end.
Holy shit, get it through your thick skulls that this is a reboot.
It's taking an old concept, and adding NEW THINGS.
This isn't a fucking remake of Doom 1 or 2.
This is a re-imagining.
Why the hell do people even WANT a pixel-for-pixel remake?

[Anonymous No.2638907]

>>2638894
Eh, for me the only really important things are dodging rather than cover based gameplay and good fucking level design. Games have in general been sorely lacking in the latter since the early 2000's or something.

[Anonymous No.2638918]

>>2638894
People don't want a REMAKE, they want more DooM. Like it or not FPS has changed but that is not the issue. DooM is still popular because there are countless mods that use that solid run n gun foundation, without throwing it away entirely. What I want is an expansion of that DooM styled gameplay based around a diverse bestiary and skill based movement. Does DooM4 have that? I don't know, but it is very easy to see how many people are worried about it, as at this point it seems that fast paced movement has been replaced with BRUTAL executions but again, it is too early to tell. Also the lack of mod support is a huge negative to me, as I would love to see awesome mods such as demonsteele or Hideous destructor recreated in a modern engine.

[Anonymous No.2638929]

>>2638894
>Why the hell do people even WANT a pixel-for-pixel remake?
We don't. The people that do are weird and strange.
We want developers that know what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.2638943]

>>2635306
Chris Lutz is doing a reimagining of the Doom 2 Hell maps (21-30).
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/74292-doom-ii-hellscape/
Check the screenshots (there are about a million), it looks gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.2638953]

>>2638528
I am. Some things do worry me but overall, I'm hype.
>>2638590
It doesn't look like painkiller at all imo.
>>2638550
Huh, he really does.

[Anonymous No.2638963]

>>2638929
seeing as the revenant is far and away the best looking monster seen so far, i'd say what's wanted is a fifty-thousand-polygon-for-pixel remake ;)

[Anonymous No.2638985]

>>2638550
his eyes are modeled after dead fish ones aren't they?

[Anonymous No.2638996]

>>2638985

dead eyes period

[Anonymous No.2639002]

>>2636912
>turn on music
>wayyy too loud
>let that shit play

[Anonymous No.2639003]

>trying to run DoomRL and DoomRPG together
>Script error, ":actors/doomrl/Ammo.txt" line 10:
Unexpected 'items/clip' in definition of 'RLClip2'
>mfw

help

[Anonymous No.2639008]

>>2639003

if this banner is flashing, etc.

[Anonymous No.2639010]

>>2639008
What?

[Anonymous No.2639015]

>>2639010
https://archive.moe/vr/post/2543408

[Anonymous No.2639020]

>>2639010

I don't have the image, so I made a reference to it

Simply put, use a SVN build of gzdoom

[Anonymous No.2639026]

>>2639015
>>2639020
Terribly sorry for bothering further but now it gives this:

Execution could not continue.

Script error, ":ANIMDEFS.txt" line 5:
You cannot use "warp" for long texture names.

[Anonymous No.2639027]

>>2638963

Yes, but that's the Revenant. Practically the only good monster so far. The Cyberdemon is just...bad. Baaad. Baaaaad.

[Anonymous No.2639031]

>>2639027
Precisely my point. They should have done high polygon remakes of the original monsters, as demonstrated by the revenant being far and away the best looking Doom4 monster.

[Anonymous No.2639036]

Didn't they hire a guy who worked on Pacific Rim? Because yeah the Cyberdemon has the same "generic monster" look about it.

[Anonymous No.2639037]

>>2639027
>Practically the only good monster so far.

Hey, the Imp is pretty decent and the Pinky looks creepy and goofy enough

[Anonymous No.2639038]

>>2639027
>opinion: the post

No point in giving reasons for opinions since they'll just be deleted anyway! When did I click on /v/?

[Anonymous No.2639052]

>>2639026
pls

[Anonymous No.2639089]

>>2639026
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.2639096]

>>2638894
>Why the hell do people even WANT a pixel-for-pixel remake?
I'd rather the Cyberdemon look like a demon rather than an alien, and I'd also much rather the game not be influenced by garbage modern-shooter cliches but I dunno. That's just me?

Sorry that offends you so much, forgot to put a trigger warning on my opinion, but I'm pretty sure the new ~D00M~ is destined for mediocrity if you scratch just a tiny bit beyond the surface of it's history or current progress.

Worst case scenario, my expectations are extremely low so that if it does turn out to be alright, I'll be moderately impressed. I just really haven't seen /anything/ worthy of real hype yet.

[Anonymous No.2639107]

>>2639026
>>2639089
>Script error, ":ANIMDEFS.txt" line 5:
>You cannot use "warp" for long texture names.
i'm no expert in zdoom mods, but i'm pretty sure this is another indication your gzdoom is too old.

[Anonymous No.2639110]

>haven't played through av in over a decade
>start playing
>something compels me to check for an update
>update
>load up map01
>BWOOOOH dem lighting changes

should be a fun return

[Anonymous No.2639114]

>>2639107
Well it's quite a pickle since i just downloaded the latest beta build of gzdoom

[Anonymous No.2639115]

>>2639114
yeah it's confusing me too
i'm sorry i can't be of more help

[Anonymous No.2639116]

>>2639114

post the fucking number jesus

[Anonymous No.2639121]

>>2639116
gzdoom-g2.1.pre-1231-g5a7afad.7z

[Anonymous No.2639126]

>>2639121

huh.

well, I'm short.

[Anonymous No.2639127]

>>2639038
people post their opinions in an online discussion, news at 11

[Anonymous No.2639137]

>>2639110
av? alien vendetta? there was an update - in 2002...

[Anonymous No.2639147]

>>2639137
yeah, it's been a very long while since i played, so it never occurred to me to check for an update of such an old mapset.

[Anonymous No.2639154]

>go on zandro
>COMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOMCOMPLEXDOOM
>close zandronum

[Anonymous No.2639160]

>>2639154
Why the fuck is that broken piece of shit so popular?

[Anonymous No.2639167]

>>2639160
I don't know, but it's one mod that deserves to be forgotten eventually, unlike others.

[Anonymous No.2639170]

>Freedoom
>E2M1
>Walk into random patch of grass in courtyard.
>Fall below map and get stuck.
>No indication of the hole being there.
Well this is a huge turn off.

[Anonymous No.2639174]

>>2639170
Scratch that there's 2 fucking holes.

Right next to eachother infact.

[Anonymous No.2639178]

>>2639170
Looks like you went somewhere earlier than you were supposed to.

[Anonymous No.2639185]

>>2639170
>>2639174
>>2639178
>Looks like you went somewhere earlier than you were supposed to.
yes it appears he has got past the red bars without lowering them first. lowering the bars (there is a switch by them behind a red door) also causes the holes to pop up.

[Anonymous No.2639191]

>>2639185
Still doesn't excuse it. Regular doom never does shit like that if you cheat.

It's just shoddy design.

[Anonymous No.2639195]

>>2639191
how did you get past the bars?

[Anonymous No.2639201]

>>2639191

You cheated and broke shit, then blame the game when your cheating breaks shit?
Nah, it's not shoddy design, you should've played it properly.

[Anonymous No.2639220]

Man, this shit is getting nuts. I'm getting lag because of all the bodies. I love Oblige.

[Anonymous No.2639235]

>>2639220

You're also probably getting lag because of those filters. Turning them off would reduce your lag significantly.

[Anonymous No.2639239]

>>2639235
Really? I didn't even mess with the filters but that might be true.

[Anonymous No.2639245]

>>2639239

The short of the matter is that additional filters cause the engine to render the sprite multiple times in a row with additional effects on them. So with something that provides a whole ton of sprites lying around, that's going to be a lot of extra weight to carry.
Some people think filters look better I don't but at the very least keep in mind that it's going to cause some lag.

[Anonymous No.2639249]

>>2639245
Huh. Makes sense.

I really don't care one way or the other about filters, I'm just in it to shoot some fuckin' demons.

[Anonymous No.2639265]

I'm that guy on a virgin playthrough of Plutonia and little prior Doom experience (other than the id software released essentials) who decided to do a no-reload run of each map.

My ears are ringing after Go 2 It (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) and I still haven't beaten it, the final 3 Cyberdemons near the exit always kill me.

I preserve Megaspheres near anally and set off football fan fights everywhere instead of shooting monsters myself, and I'm still stuck after 4 hours of trying.

I have to admit, though - with no-reload, you really are getting heart attacks in situations like
>wake up the Cyberdemon guarding the button behind the blue door
>run away preparing to corner camp with Rocket Launcher out
>run into a stray Chaingunner I forgot about
>get stuck on him
>frantically try to change into Super Shotgun while dodging an incoming rocket
>barely make it out of the way of the rocket and kill the chaingunner
>press "ESC" and live out the heart attack in peace

Holy fuck I suck at Doom.
It's still great.

[Anonymous No.2639274]

>>2637809
Craig Mullins only made the Marathon 2 and Marathon Infinity artwork / chapter screens, that one is from the first game made by J. Reginald Dujour

[Anonymous No.2639334]

speaking of marathon, question:

has anyone tried the win95 port of m2? if so, was the engine reworked so that it doesn't have the massive mouse issues that the original mac marathon games had? that is: the cap on turning speed and meandering & imprecision with small movements... which still exist in aleph one, with no fixes in the foreseeable future.

i could unearth my old xp comp to see if i could the win95 port running (getting an unworkable error on win8), but i'm wondering if it's even worth the hassle.

[Anonymous No.2639338]

>>2635305
While out walking today it occured to me that the Doom-monsters are some of the most iconic and adorable fictional game creatures ever created.

And then I became sad when I thought of how they were changed for Doom 4.

[Anonymous No.2639357]

>>2636746
>So you want to death slide.

[Anonymous No.2639383]

>>2639265
heh i'd love to see a demo of this

[Anonymous No.2639386]

>>2639334
So I'm not the only one getting mouse issues in Aleph One then. Why the FUCK hasn't it been fixed? If being true to the original is the reason, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2639447]

>>2638528
I'm excited for the people who will use the Map making system to recreate Plutonia, TNT, and the Master Levels.

Also, that picture becomes hilarious if you look at it like the Revenant is cross-eyed.

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2639461]

>>2638918
>People don't want a REMAKE, they want more DooM. Like it or not FPS has changed but that is not the issue. DooM is still popular because there are countless mods that use that solid run n gun foundation, without throwing it away entirely. What I want is an expansion of that DooM styled gameplay based around a diverse bestiary and skill based movement. Does DooM4 have that? I don't know, but it is very easy to see how many people are worried about it, as at this point it seems that fast paced movement has been replaced with BRUTAL executions but again, it is too early to tell. Also the lack of mod support is a huge negative to me, as I would love to see awesome mods such as demonsteele or Hideous destructor recreated in a modern engine.

And here's my answer to people like you; GO FUCKING PLAY DOOM THEN.

It was done once, it was done twice, and it was done THREE TIMES, on the PC and N64.

Not all of us want to re-tread things that have already been done, and I would feel pretty fucking raped if it was literally just Doom with a new engine. In fact, I'd be pretty fucking pissed, since I can get mods to do that for me.

> Also the lack of mod support is a huge negative to me, as I would love to see awesome mods such as demonsteele or Hideous destructor recreated in a modern engine.

There's a huge map-making system.

[Anonymous No.2639469]

>>2639383
You wouldn't; I basically just corner camp. I never died on Cyberden because I corner camped the whole time. The massive Cyberdemon roadblocks in front of the keydoors prove to be terribly tedious, and then in any real fight, I eat two rockets and that's all she wrote.

[Anonymous No.2639470]

>>2639461
>huge

You can't even fucking make outdoor areas.

[The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk No.2639474]

>>2639470
>You can't even fucking make outdoor areas.

Does the map-making system include hell assets?

[Anonymous No.2639486]

>>2639386
ha, i doubt even a purist would go that far.

apparently the physics would need to be reworked, which would break netplay and old replays (and maybe this still wouldn't work for m3?). i'd be all for the change, and maybe they could figure out some new netplay for multiplayer, but i'm not a coder so i don't really get the challenges or how much work would be involved.

all i really know is that if you're like me and aren't willing to give up being able to flick and track, then the marathon games are unplayable in aleph one. i get how they might have been playable when kb-only was commonplace, but now, no way.

[Anonymous No.2639505]

>>2639447
>Also, that picture becomes hilarious if you look at it like the Revenant is cross-eyed.
Thought the same.
>>2638918
While it isn't sanic fast anymore, there's plenty of dodging projectiles, watching out for windups, and baiting melee attacks in the demo
>>2639461
>There's a huge map-making system.
That anon was talking gameplay mods.
We'll see about those. They showed a few, but they didn't change a lot.
I assume HD would be rather easy to make.
>>2639470
Yeah that sucked. The meters that limit how much shit you can put in the map kinda worries me. Hope there's a non-snapmap editor that removes that, released at some point (probably not at release, since they want to get the whole bethesda.net thing going)
>>2639474
They didn't show them. And they talked about snapmap being mostly about interior areas and stuff.
I hope there are, otherwise that's a huge fuckup in their part

[Anonymous No.2639546]

Unused quite messages in doom 2:
>https://tcrf.net/Doom_II:_Hell_on_Earth_%28PC%29#Quit_Messages

fucking romero lol

[Anonymous No.2639564]

>>2639003
Are you loading them with the dedicated doomrpg launcher?

[Anonymous No.2639565]

>>2637143
>tfw terry wads are actually well done

[Anonymous No.2639586]

>>2635306
>>2635685

I have fixed all the bugs I could find, added additional spawn-ins post "room", and was able to do a full run with Chocolate Doom.

Project: Complete! Thanks for all the feedback you guys, you can find version 1.1 here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!Z05ykKLb!Wun5pFmw3z3tbV_HniyvxuCLPK0SkvIblNK6rW722TY

[Anonymous No.2639664]

>>2637572

Its actually a remake of the GBA DM maps

[Anonymous No.2639669]

>>2639586

Oh, and bonus points if anyone recognizes the song the MIDI is trying to copy.

[Anonymous No.2639704]

>>2638985
I think he's based on the deadites from Evil Dead

[Anonymous No.2639706]

>>2639586
>soulsphere over corpse

[Anonymous No.2639774]

>>2639706

I remember you guys when mapping, so now it's part of my headcanon that Soulspheres are souls of humans, and Megaspheres are those of demons. Dunno what you'd call Invisibility and Invulnerability spheres. Probably more Demon stuff.

[Anonymous No.2639810]

So Hdoom update never? Not even new art?

[Anonymous No.2639837]

>>2639810

http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/tagged/hdoom

He posted updates barely ten days ago.

I ain't even a fan of HDoom but calm your tits.

[Anonymous No.2639850]

>>2637923
It's a bug with v20 itself. Check the latest beta, it got this bug fixed already.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/79o1l7foi4nd7x9/brutalv20btest28jul.zip

[Anonymous No.2640095]

>>2639137
I remember when it first came out. Valley of Echoes was a bloody insane map.

[Anonymous No.2640105]

>>2639586
>>2635685 here; I'm having a couple imps almost constantly getting stuck in their starting teleport room, seems the lines are still being disabled, as >>2637823 said.
Is it intentional that the Arachnotron now teleports to random locations? over three different runs I had it teleport into the lowered green armor area (where it was made easily killed by hitscan), the open space in the crate room (which was a nice surprise), and lastly stuck inbetween crates, unable to move.
After looking in doombuilder it seems there's a heap of one-use teleport linedefs in the monster spawn room, the arachnotron's are getting disabled somehow and its wandering into the other teleport spots. Also in Chocolate Doom I could see the second red key embedded in the wall, pic related.

Bugs aside, I don't think you need to worry about ammo being tight, all the former humans drop plenty of it and a berserk pack secret is given early on, I do feel like there's too much armor, the non-secret green armor is so close to the blue armor that I find myself never needing one or the other.

I really like the hell room now, you hear a crapload of monsters teleporting into the rest of the map, and the way out of the room is a lot more natural and no longer makes you do that awkward turn-around to go back to grab the items.

Really though it's a nice little map! The Arachnotron having a random teleport spot was neat, though unintentional. Happy accidents are great.

[Anonymous No.2640109]

>>2639774
Invisibility = all seeing eye
Invulnerability = angel souls

[Anonymous No.2640149]

>>2639850
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/79o1l7foi4nd7x9/brutalv20btest28jul.zip
thank you very much, a god among men

[Anonymous No.2640163]

>>2635306
>[08-23] Anon map release: Toxic Base
Nice for a first map, extremely tight on ammo though, the RL is only really used in the room you get it in as there's no rocket ammo on the map, and the optional north room with all the lost souls/PEs is really unrewarding for how much ammo you use up in it.
Also consider flagging the two windows to block monsters, the sergeants that shoot out of them step up on the window ledge and it looks a bit awkward, doesn't actually affect gameplay though.

[Anonymous No.2640170]

>>2638894
We don't want a remake of doom 1 and 2. We want a new game that is still Doom at the essence.

None of the material I've seen looks like Doom. All I'm seeing is Halo with demons.

[Anonymous No.2640173]

>>2640170
It doesn't feel like Halo at all

[Anonymous No.2640178]

>>2639546
>hey, ron! can we say 'fuck' in the game?

[Anonymous No.2640183]

>>2640173
>It doesn't feel like Doom at all.

ftfy

[Anonymous No.2640189]

>>2640183
>repeating your opinion in such a retarded unfunny way
And the "ftfy" is unguaranteed, you don't even know what my opinion of the game is at all. I'm just telling you, it doesn't look feel or look like Halo

[Anonymous No.2640190]

>>2640105
>Happy accidents are great.

Story of my life. I guess I need to make a v1.2

[Anonymous No.2640196]

>>2640189
I've played Halo. Yes it does.

[Anonymous No.2640202]

>>2640190
>Happy accidents are great.
>Story of my life.

Ouch, anon.

[Anonymous No.2640249]

>>2640163
Yeah in hindsight the pain elementals may have been a tad too much. I'll try not to make the same mistakes in my future maps.

[Anonymous No.2640279]

Are there any good vanilla compatible DM sets? Bonus points if stock textures only.

[Anonymous No.2640349]

>>2639850
This was never posted here before was it?
And it's a month old?
Has Mark abandoned /vr/ ??

[Anonymous No.2640359]

>>2640349

Good riddance, if so.

[Anonymous No.2640432]

Can anyone hook me up with Duke Nukem 3D and maybe recommend a good source port if they even exist? I used have the game's files but an accident shrekt my computer and I lost all my shit... Can anyone help? ;_;

[Anonymous No.2640441]

>>2640432
http://dk.toastednet.org/3dsl/DN3D_ONLINE_RIP/DN3D_ONLINE.rar

Comes with eDuke32, but its out of date, so get an updated version.

[Anonymous No.2640515]

>>2638310
They would shill the game there though

[Anonymous No.2640517]

>>2638770
>Prey is better than all of the above though.
My nigga. If only it had a proper death mechanic though.

[Anonymous No.2640529]

>>2638296
>>2640515
pic related


>>2639586
Nice map, dude.

[Anonymous No.2640882]

>>2635306
Doom can now be purchased on GOG.

http://www.gog.com/game/the_ultimate_doom
http://www.gog.com/game/doom_ii_final_doom

[Anonymous No.2640895]

>>2640882
Huh, interesting.....

[Anonymous No.2640896]

>>2640432
I've got Megaton Edition on Steam, bought it for cheap and it comes with all of the expansion packs, or you could go the >>2640441 route

[Anonymous No.2640951]

>>2640882
Quake too, but only the first one as of yet. I'm sure GOG's trickling them out slowly.

>>2640896
Worth noting that this and the expansions also work with EDuke32. Megaton's source port is actually very old, apparently because this came out on XBox first.

[Anonymous No.2640954]

Would be cool if Chocolate Doom would emulate the DOS loading screen.

[Anonymous No.2640958]

>>2640202

Ouch as much as it is good.

High ASVAB scores made my recruiter force me into Cryptolinguist even though I was fighting to sign up for EOD because I was borderline depressed/suicidal at the time.
Asthma I didn't even know I had got me right back out of the military with 7k pocket change despite the fact I had solid scores in everything test and physical wise except the run.
That money helped me go to college until I got a full-time, low-pay job in summer and stayed with it instead of going back to college.
Broken leg got me back into college.
Being frustrated with a dumb game got me into Doom mapping.
Going a little too far with a good friend when I should've been cold between Exs got me the person I plan to marry and have been with for six years.

Gotta think in positives. One closed door opens many others.

[Anonymous No.2640963]

>>2640954

Did DOS Doom have a loading screen? What did it look like?

I grew up with Mac Doom (Mac Family), so I never remember them. I also remember the ease of drag-and-drop on the exe to play WADs. I also remember the torture of having so many early mods not work properly and not being able to access the same tools DOS/Windows users had.

[Anonymous No.2640964]

>>2640963
>Mac Doom
no fucking way i thought marathon was made because they didn't have doom on MAC

[Anonymous No.2640967]

>>2640963

[Anonymous No.2640970]

>>2640964

Dude, I played the /shit/ out of Doom on... MacOS9? I don't remember what OS we were on exactly when I started. I was also 3 years late to the party or so.

I also had Marathon and Duke, as I recall.

I loved Doom for the gameplay and early mods, Duke for the interactive and realistic levels, and Marathon for the story.

[Anonymous No.2640974]

>>2640964
I still remember that little pop-out option tab in the bottom left so fondly.

Because back then you always had to fuck with colors and shit for certain games to work.

[Anonymous No.2640982]

>>2640964
IIRC, the 90's megawad Realm of Chaos was made by a team of Mac users.

[Anonymous No.2640985]

>>2640970
>I loved Doom for the gameplay and early mods, Duke for the interactive and realistic levels, and Marathon for the story.
It's really funny how different they are from each other once you get past the essential similarities. DN3D is half game, half shitposting simulator, and Marathon really nails the brooding darkness that later id games could never get right (maybe they should have studied more ancient myths and philosophy).

[Anonymous No.2640993]

Looks like WGR2 is still active: http://www.moddb.com/games/wgrealms-2/news/back-in-action14

[Anonymous No.2640998]

>>2640985

Doom is a game at it's core. Once they took Tom Hall and the Doom Bible out, it was pure, liquid game.

Marathon is a story. Some of the dialogue in that still gives me chills.

Duke is.. I don't know what to call it. I like the shitposting simulator definition. The balance is all over the place, but it's just a wacky and wild romp and all the other things it does right excuses what it doesn't.


If they were movies, Doom is like this serious kind of action thriller. Straight-forward. Duke is one of those wacky over the top action movies where the main character walks away from explosions and hashes out an awful one-liner. Marathon is just a dark thriller where you have a looming sense of dread despite there never being any direct threats.

[Anonymous No.2641034]

Quake I and its expansions can now be purchased on GOG
they all include their original soundtracks
sadly it took this long for a digital release of Quake I to have this feature.

[Anonymous No.2641039]

>>2641034
>they all include their original soundtracks
As in the music plays ingame and everything? Because it's about fucking time. Steam version better get updated for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5Jvr2Fp48

[Anonymous No.2641043]

>>2641039
knowing how lazy id/bethesda is I sadly doubt it.
I haven't seen it in action but it does play in game by default and offers the option to use 3dfx

Though the version of Blood on Steam is the exact GOG version so anythings possible

[Anonymous No.2641051]

>>2641039
>>2641043
Just found out some band used music straight from Quake in one of their songs without permission. They make money off of it, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puBDBzxlTHQ

First 55 seconds sound familiar to you?

[Anonymous No.2641054]

>>2641051
Might as well mention which songs have been stolen: The screaming part of Quake's theme and "It is raped", both layered on top of eachother.

[Anonymous No.2641083]

>>2640958
Needed to hear this. Just got turned down by another girl after years of being dateless and I'm starting to feel angina. It's hard to keep hoping, but I'll try.

[Anonymous No.2641113]

>>2641039
It was confirmed on GOG's forums that the music does actually play ingame.

Holy fuck it actually happened.

[Anonymous No.2641117]

>>2641113

so long, gay steamwser

[Anonymous No.2641120]

>>2641083

Love and relationships are random af. Sorry to hear that, but ye. The most important thing is to keep trying (if that's what you want that is), even if it's super passive/casually, instead of shutting yourself off. Also to act yourself, because the more of a facade you put up to get it going, the more work it is later.

[Anonymous No.2641191]

>>2640951
>Quake too, but only the first one as of yet. I'm sure GOG's trickling them out slowly.
>>2641034
>Quake I and its expansions can now be purchased on GOG
>they all include their original soundtracks
do either of you have newspost-suitable links for this?
or to put it another way is this right
http://www.gog.com/game/quake_the_offering
the "the offering" part made me question it

[Anonymous No.2641213]

>>2641034
Magnificent, now get them to release Quake 2 with working soundtrack, I'll lap that shit up.

[Anonymous No.2641217]

>>2641051
you sure they can't just claim they "sampled" it since its a song called "House of Chithon"?

[Anonymous No.2641220]

>>2641191
Quake The Offering was originally a physical release that bundled the expansions with the base game back in the day. That is likely why they went with that name on gog

[Anonymous No.2641226]

>>2639154
Fucking this, why the hell would you have a server running sunlust AND complex doom AND a mutator that only allows ammo respawns AND in survival mode. Holy shit dude...
Maybe I have to git gud

[Anonymous No.2641227]

WAIT
TUROK

[Anonymous No.2641236]

turoooook

[Anonymous No.2641239]

>>2641220
okay, good enough for me, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2641250]

>>2641051
Not sure if Trent Reznor or id/bethesda even care, to be honest.

[Anonymous No.2641253]

>>2641250
Well the music is not Trent's property so it doesn't legally matter what he thinks.

[Anonymous No.2641262]

>>2641191
What a great deal! If I buy now, I can get games that are already free...for free! Bethesda's generosity truly knows no bounds.

[Anonymous No.2641279]

>>2641262
What if the games are the CD releases ?

[Anonymous No.2641280]

>>2641262
That's a point. News items have been removed for going pay.

[Anonymous No.2641290]

>>2641262
GOG's done that with some games though since day one, they put some out for free that they've made usable on DOSBox at their own expense. Like Stargunner, which is one of those few that are sometimes a bitch.

The forums already have DaggerfallSetup mentioned, if it's any consolation.

[Anonymous No.2641293]

>>2641279

They are the CD releases. At least I know that Arena is.

[Anonymous No.2641306]

>>2641293
The free versions available through Bethesda are the floppy releases. So if you Buy This Game™ you are getting something more than just what's already available.

[Anonymous No.2641323]

>>2641279
Whats the difference between cd and floppy versions?

[Anonymous No.2641331]

Turok and Turok 2 now on PC from the same team that brought Strife

[Anonymous No.2641348]

>>2641331
>>2641227
>>2641236

which reminds me

wasn't Kaiser involved in something Turok-related?

OH SHIT

[Anonymous No.2641352]

>>2641331
Probably going to pirate it for the sake of a quick demo. Was a bit difficult for me trying to play it on an N64 emulator with a keyboard

[Anonymous No.2641368]

>>2641323

I think the CD version has either speech or CD Audio.

[Anonymous No.2641369]

>>2641323
I think Arena had voices for FMV sequences. Daggerfall had FMV sequences and voiceovers also.

[Anonymous No.2641372]

So I downloaded the Duke Nukem 3D High Resolution pack.

I like it. The models look nice and don't look too out of place compared to doom. Plus I grew up with the 2 playstation duke games so it's sort of nostalgic for me.

[Anonymous No.2641378]

Do you guys think it's wrong to change the passive voice of Doom's obituaries, where the victim is announced before the killer, to an active voice where it's the other way around?

As I've said here before, I am doing a "translation pack" in European Spanish for all commercial games in the Doom engine supported by ZDoom.
The problem is, the passive voice isn't used often in Spanish and it sounds awkward in most situations, and almost every game I've played uses the killer>victim form, but I am so used to Doom's wording that I am not really sure of what to do.

Also, I've been trying to voice Korax but erasing the noise caused by my strong pronunciation of the letter P is impossible, ugh...

[Anonymous No.2641393]

>>2641369
Are they either good or hamtastic voiceovers? I'd give it a go if they were worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.2641418]

>>2641378
> an active voice where it's the other way around
It's perfectly fine anon.

>Also, I've been trying to voice Korax
Please try to find some VA with an actually decent mic to do that for you. From experience, people who edit code make for shitty VA's, no offense.

[Anonymous No.2641425]

>>2641418
>Please try to find some VA with an actually decent mic to do that for you. From experience, people who edit code make for shitty VA's, no offense.
I am a measly translation student who works in small, personal projects as a hobby. No one mildly decent would want to do it for me, hah.
I was probably going to find someone with a better voice and mic, though. I had to try importing sounds in SLADE first anyway, so it didn't hurt to do it with my own cheap impersonation.

[Anonymous No.2641437]

>>2641393
>Arena
> The CD-ROM edition is the more advanced, featuring enhanced speech for some characters and CGI video sequences.

I think it's similar for Daggerfall. Overall there's nothing that would influence the gameplay.

[Anonymous No.2641473]

>>2641372
Personally, I find the models disorienting. They don't look good either and not even the bad kind of good

[Anonymous No.2641476]

What I'm doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.2641481]

>>2641476

>1.3

Update it brah, it's on 2.1.2

[Anonymous No.2641523]

>>2641481
I had a hard day.

[Anonymous No.2641532]

>>2641425
it's fairly easy to find willing voice actors on the internet I believe.

I think your project is neat anyway, especially because of how professional you come off about it.

[Anonymous No.2641545]

>>2641523

[Anonymous No.2641558]

Wait, are Ashot and Yar voiced by Yuri Lowenthal and Steve Blum, or is it just me?

[Anonymous No.2641609]

>>2641545
>"Look mom, I'm meme!"

[Anonymous No.2641636]

>>2641372
I really like the Octabrain model. Pigcops are okay too. The alien troopers look kind of cartoony to me though, kind of like how the Cacodemon model in Doomsday/Risen3D looks more like that Hissy plush doll instead of a monster. The stripper/dancer models suck.

I also prefer the Glock looking pistol model in the older HRP instead of the new one, but yeah, the weapon models aren't too bad.

All the textures are pretty damn good, though.

My two cents on the Duke3D HRP.

[Anonymous No.2641738]

>>2641636
The alien troopers are pretty shitty from the beginning though.

[Anonymous No.2641749]

>>2641738
The sprites have this funky skin thing going on that simply couldn't be done with the 3D tech of the day (but could be done now in engines like Unreal).

[Anonymous No.2641803]

This sword has become pretty fucking satisfying to use now. It can visually connect with anything for each frame of it's animation now. A happy accident made it so that if you just graze a monster/wall with the swing it'll seem to slide along it's surface unhindered.

The overhand attack was a fucking bitch to implement because the source model doesn't have an animation like that, so I had to manually 'roll' the arm and apply offsets and shit. Anyway I've found a third source of gothic medieval type weapons and monsters other than quake and hexen, so there can be some actual human enemies.

[Anonymous No.2641804]

>Hi guys,
>Unfortunately due to complicated legal issues we needed to remove the ogg music from the game. Instead we've added disk images into the build so that the DosBox version stays intact (as DosBox can mount CD images by itself). As for the Windows version, if you happen to have the game's CD you can just insert it and play the game with music.
>I'm terribly sorry for the inconvenience, but the world of legal agreements written 20 years ago can be ... a complicated one.
>Anyway, hope you enjoy the game!

I miss the old days of software usage ethics.

[Anonymous No.2641812]

>>2641804
give link

[Anonymous No.2641840]

>>2641804

So the GOG version doesn't have music too?

[Anonymous No.2641926]

>>2641804

nice source

[Anonymous No.2641930]

>>2641812
>>2641926
since >>2641804 is a fag
https://www.gog.com/forum/quake_the_offering/quake_the_offering_music/page1

[Anonymous No.2641932]

>>2641930

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2641949]

>>2641930

OH WELL, getting all hyped up for nothing

At least Turok 1 and 2 will be on PC

[Anonymous No.2641953]

>>2641840
apparently it does but you have to mount an image file from the dosbox version or some shit

[Anonymous No.2641990]

What is the equivalent of Chocodoom for Quake?

>>2641804
>>2641930
>>2641949
You can still get oggs out of the download relatively easily.

[Anonymous No.2641992]

>>2641990
>What is the equivalent of Chocodoom for Quake?
WinQuake, of course.

[Anonymous No.2641994]

Is it worth 4 bucks just to avoid dealing with other issues?

Brutal doom works on it as well right? Was going to try that after a quick run through the game on normal

[Anonymous No.2641997]

>>2641378
Voice actor here, stretch some pantyhose over a knitting ring and you've got yourself a ghetto pop filter to deal with your plosives.

[Anonymous No.2642000]

>>2641990
>Chocodoom
I was imagining the enemies being replaced by chocobos

[Anonymous No.2642001]

>>2641997
Socks are more readily available

[Anonymous No.2642003]

>>2641994
>Brutal doom works on it as well right?

Heh.

Knowing GOG it may come with Dosbox, which doesn't support mods outside of Dehacked.

[Anonymous No.2642005]

>>2641997
>>2641378

One of these things, I mean.

[Anonymous No.2642006]

>>2641994
Downloading it from GOG will just be a different way of getting yourself DOOM.WAD.

[Anonymous No.2642007]

>>2642003
Well that's lame

[Anonymous No.2642012]

>>2642001
I guess thin ones could work, you don't want to end up sounding like you're talking through a sock tho

[Anonymous No.2642014]

>>2642012
Just needs to be relatively thin

[Anonymous No.2642026]

>>2641994
Doesn't really matter whether you buy it from Steam or GoG. Steam lets you run the bundled DOSBox .exe just fine without Steam running, and I'm pretty sure you could drag and drop the files to a different folder outside the Steam folder and still play the game just fine.

At the end of the day though, it's really just what >>2642006 said.

[Anonymous No.2642030]

How long would Doom guy last in the 40k Universe?

[Anonymous No.2642037]

>>2642007
Brutal Doom needs either (G)ZDoom or Zandronum to run. The latter is mostly used for multiplayer.

[Anonymous No.2642038]

>>2641994
Just get it from the OP, and use it with GZDoom

[Anonymous No.2642041]

>>2642037
And for precision's sake, all of the source ports I mentioned in that post are free and can be easily found on Google.

[Anonymous No.2642043]

>>2641992
I'm playing on WinQuake, and I'm getting this issue after playing for long enough, the screenshot isn't quite right, it's not all black like this, but the bright RGB spots are all there and seem to follow the lighting.

Please tell me it's a software problem and not a hardware problem.

[Anonymous No.2642078]

>>2641994
None of the original creators get a single dime from doom purchases anyway. Just fucking pirate that shit, the only reason for buying it is if it's a physical copy.

[Anonymous No.2642082]

>>2642007
To play brutal doom you only need the .wad file and a source port anyway.

[Anonymous No.2642097]

>Mighty boot while running.
I always questioned how duke accomplished this without tripping and falling on his fucking face.

I guess douk is too cool for gravity.

[Anonymous No.2642103]

>>2642097
>voxels
Explain

[Anonymous No.2642106]

>>2642097
whats even better is alternating between his melee weapon and might boot.

[Anonymous No.2642114]

>>2642103
>He's never heard of the high resolution pack.
Lurk moar.

i'm kidding just google "Duke Nukem 3D High Resolution Pack" you'll find info in seconds.

[Anonymous No.2642115]

>>2642103
High Resolution Pack

[Anonymous No.2642423]

Oh cool. Aparrently gog version of Final Doom is the id anthology versions of the iwads.

[Anonymous No.2642425]

>>2642423
What's different with them?

[Anonymous No.2642427]

>>2642425
TNT, the yellow key is fixed in map31, and I believe map10 has differences in secret tags and nodes.

Plutonia only really added deathmatch starts to a couple maps.

[Anonymous No.2642442]

Its too bad quake never had backup music in case of a lack of CD
I liked that Blood techinally had 2 different OSTs, the CD one and the MIDI one

[Anonymous No.2642446]

>>2642442
I actually prefer the midis in Blood

[Anonymous No.2642448]

>>2642442
I would've loved if Quake actually had an option for a MIDI soundtrack. It could've been just like Blood: CD soundtrack is more atmospheric while the MIDI soundtrack isn't really atmospheric at all.

This is exactly how I imagine the theme would've sounded in MIDI mode, complete with the "screaming" part of the song gone: http://vgmusic.com/new-files/quake.mid

[Anonymous No.2642452]

>>2642448
>complete with the "screaming" part of the song gone
*mostly gone

>>2642446
Same. I personally think the MIDI soundtrack fits the game more.

[Anonymous No.2642457]

>>2642452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZoDLbqQWCc my favourite midi

[Anonymous No.2642491]

So I've known about ZDoom and Doom source ports for quite some time, but today I learned about PowerslaveEX and DarkXL, and I'm pretty fucking hyped about the knowledge. Are there any other source ports/modernised engines for any other games? I'd be particularly interested in Ultima Underworld, System Shock and Blood.

[Anonymous No.2642502]

>>2642491
>DarkXL
Sorry, it's vaporware. The guy has not posted any progress in over a year.

[Anonymous No.2642545]

turok 1 and 2 are geting remastered

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dino-games-turok-and-turok-2-getting-pc-remasters-/1100-6430062/

[Anonymous No.2642546]

>>2642491
there is a system shock clone being made by some guy on the system shock forums. Literally just making the same game in a newer engine like darkXL. The same guy making the XL engine was supposedly (he has not logged in in over a year to his own website) going to make BloodXL and DaggerXL (TES2).

>https://www.openttd.org/en/
Transport Tycoon Deluxe rewritten in C with hundreds of new features added to it (and not a single feature that doesn't make sense or detracts from the original experience)

>https://openrct2.com/
Same as above but for Roller Coaster Tycoon 2

>http://www.dfworkshop.net/
Owner of the site made tools that allow importing the world of daggerfall into the Unity engine, he's recently vowed to port the whole game over (which will finally allow high res, bug fixes and mods)

>https://github.com/OpenMW/openmw
Exactly what is looks like, an open source engine for morrowind

fuck it, here's a massive list: http://osgameclones.com/

[Anonymous No.2642548]

>>2642546
also wanted to ask this before I saw anon's question:

I have the disc for both quake 1 and hexen 2(think I bought them at an op shop/thrift store yesrs ago), can I install them directly into dosbox or should I just pirate them and pretend

[Anonymous No.2642549]

>>2642545
shit games tbh

[Anonymous No.2642552]

post yfw getting a bfg 9000

[Anonymous No.2642554]

>>2642548
Hexen 2 is made for Windows 95. Go for installing it, but don't imagine it runs well on modern Windows 7/8/10. Try a source port, or dick with it and try to get it running.

Quake... I'd recommend a source port just because, but installing it directly into DOSBox works just fine. Quakespasm is pretty faithful and easy to set up.

tl;dr - Hexen 2 is for Windows, not DOS. Installing Quake 1 in DOSBox works.

[Anonymous No.2642558]

>>2642554
And you could just copy the id1 folder off of the Quake 1 CD for the source port, no need to install in DOSBox unless that's just something you're into.

[Anonymous No.2642564]

>>2642554
>tl;dr - Hexen 2 is for Windows, not DOS.

Originally, yes. However, the uHexen2 source port has a build back to DOS, if you really wanted to run it in DOS.

Quake 2 was also backported to DOS recently, and even works with 3DFx Glide if you are running on a system with a real Voodoo card.
Well, there is a DOS Glide wrapper, GLIDOS, but its shareware and it probably doesn't work

[Anonymous No.2642575]

>>2642549
Disagree. Turok 2 was awesome.

[Anonymous No.2642597]

>>2642552
this, of course. honestly have you people even played the game?

[Anonymous No.2642602]

>>2642597
actually yes

[Anonymous No.2642603]

>>2642602
fair enough, carry on then.

[Anonymous No.2642619]

>>2642603
thanks

[Anonymous No.2642632]

>>2642575
you have shit taste tbh

[Anonymous No.2642638]

>>2642632
>>2642549
and this is why we use filters

[Anonymous No.2642720]

I want some vanilla-styled Doom games for when I don't want an epic adventure, but want some quick popcorn doom.
They don't need to actually be vanilla/limitless compatible.

[Anonymous No.2642743]

>>2642720
Scythe 1
Demonfear
TVR!
The Rebirth

[Anonymous No.2642745]

So glad that Doom is now on gog. Much easier to configure, and it comes with dosbox v0.74 instead of v0.72

[Anonymous No.2642749]

>>2642745
Comparing this to Steam, btw.

[Anonymous No.2642754]

>>2642743
Already played Scythe 1, but thank you for the rest.

[Anonymous No.2642831]

>>2642554
DTWID maybe?

[Anonymous No.2642869]

After hours of slaving away (right click -> add to archive) I bring you, the lazy motherfuckers Quake pack. What does it have you ask? A straight copy of my Quakespasm folder, both expansions and all music set up. Until someone can be arsed to do more work than me, this should do for people wanting to get into SP Quake 1 with a minimum of configuration.

Warning: This has the x64 build of quakespasm in it, if you don't have a 64 bit pc, then you need to get off your ass and download the 32bit one and just install it over this one.

https://mega.nz/#!8MlzHK5A!_dDotjEfkUhYPdkGhn2ZWtVaruEt0R75noIcxJkHwyo

[Anonymous No.2643057]

Interesting, the DOOM.WAD and DOOM2.WAD files from gog have a date of 27/02/2015 12:28 PM. And all the Master Levels wad files have a date of 10/03/2015 12:50 PM

Yet, it appears they are the exact same versions as the originals, though.

[Anonymous No.2643083]

>>2643057
Is it the exact same size? I think some zip formats scrub dates from files which could be the reason.

Anyway, I checked my doom.wad and it's from 1996-03.

[Anonymous No.2643091]

>>2642869
DL'd it for the expansion sets. Thanks.

I actually owned the big original boxes for all three of them until a family member threw the expansion ones away when moving houses a decade ago. Still have the original one as well as Q2 with intact boxes though, manuals and everything.

[Anonymous No.2643115]

>>2643083
Is yours from gog?

[Anonymous No.2643118]

>>2643115
It's from a torrent.

[Anonymous No.2643164]

>>2643118
Ah.

But yeah. All that matters is the size and MD5, and gog's versions are correct.

[Anonymous No.2643174]

Doom

[Anonymous No.2643176]

>>2642000
Final Doom Fantasy WAD?

excluding Heretic/Hexen of course.

[Anonymous No.2643230]

>>2639003
I installed these recently and had a similar issue, tried to launch it every which way but it would always have script errors. Reinstalling from scratch a few times didn't help either. I think either the compatibility is broken or I'm a retard who can't into computer. The only way I could get it to run was to delete the offending line in that script. It worked perfectly after that.

[Anonymous No.2643814]

>>2642743
>TVR!
this sounds like an anime
and i don't even watch anime

[Anonymous No.2643894]

>>2643814
heh. that's the filename. the title is in fact "Revolution!"
http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=11848

[Anonymous No.2643981]

>>2643814
ANIME JA NAI

[Anonymous No.2644052]

>>2642043
Fuck winquake. The best close to vanilla port is quakespasm. Just have to fix the filtering setting and it is good. Look at my lazy motherfuckers Quake pack to get into playing vanilla Quake fast

[Anonymous No.2644185]

>>2636728
Activate autism rage mode

[Anonymous No.2644196]

NEW THREAD

>>2644191
>>2644191
>>2644191

[Anonymous No.2644206]

>>2640190

Alright. VA1.2
https://mega.co.nz/#!88pR1QaJ!OEId3gl9OLot9Xmg4uFLnAc5ormVq5Di-s4UpDijFCE

Fixed aforementioned bugs (I think). Attempted to fiddle with teleports. Locked off the final sector during fight, but kept coop compatibility in still (I think.) Added coop starts because I am still not clever. Arachnatron was given his own suite so he'll stop crashing other people's pads. You will get a visplane overflow in ChocoDoom if you noclip to inspect that, though.

People also said double-baron was too easy, so I fix. Might not be possible with old school Doom controls less your hot shit. Then again, you can always kite and run to the exit. Picture very related, both to my general frustrations and the new end. One day I might go back and add difficulties and DM starts for completion's sake.