Do you feel that your vidya skills are fading with age? I personally don't feel it at all. 29 years old here and I feel better than ever.

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Anonymous Fri Aug 21 06:57:49 2015 No.2628339 [Reply] [Original]

Do you feel that your vidya skills are fading with age? I personally don't feel it at all. 29 years old here and I feel better than ever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 06:59:24 2015 No.2628341 Same age and same feeling here bro

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:03:22 2015 No.2628350 >>2628341 Still look real young, too. No hair loss at all, /fit/ and still handsome. High five bro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:08:42 2015 No.2628362 >>2628339 I feel it. My fingers are slower, my perception is slower, and I can't pull an all-nighter playing games anymore. I've kinda given up on fighting games because of this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:12:38 2015 No.2628364 I'm pushing 40 and I feel like my reaction time has slowed somewhat. I still enjoy playing fighters though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:13:35 2015 No.2628365 aw shit depression thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:16:43 2015 No.2628368 >>2628365 Think of it this way, we've refined our tastes and can introduce a new generation to video games that don't suck.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:17:01 2015 No.2628369

Here's a trick to help your reaction times.
Pause buffer trick: pause the game, hold a direction and button, unpause and pause again immediately, hold the opposite direction or a different button, rinse and repeat, etc.
It's essentially what they do in TASes and the only way I can pull off special moves motions in Neo Geo fighters.
Achieve close to frame perfect movement depending on how the game implemented pausing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:24:46 2015 No.2628373 >>2628368 Shame the new generation only cares about pewdiepie and minecraft.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:32:19 2015 No.2628383 >>2628364 Stop eating junk food and you wouldn't have the body of an 80 year old at 30, dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:38:20 2015 No.2628385 Get offa mah lawn

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:48:21 2015 No.2628390 >>2628373 it's not true, i'm the >>new generation<< and the last new games i played was doom 3 when it came out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 07:51:03 2015 No.2628394 I've sucked at video games ever since I got into RPGs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:11:22 2015 No.2628406 >>2628339 If this is the middle of the 21st century, why are they dressed like grandpas from the 1950s?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:13:16 2015 No.2628408 >>2628390 You're the old new generation of 20 year olds, the new new generation are like 12.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:14:19 2015 No.2628412 >>2628390 Doom 3 came out 12 years ago, by the way, the Minecraft gen wasn't even born back then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:15:48 2015 No.2628414 >>2628406 The pic isn't actually taken in 2057, crazy, I know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:19:10 2015 No.2628418 >>2628414 Even old guys today don't look like that for chrissake.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:23:51 2015 No.2628421 >>2628418 First thing I noticed is that they have pretty great hairline for their age. Fuck, getting old sucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:40:41 2015 No.2628425 >>2628421 My family's genetics suggests that I'll have full, dark hair until I die. My wife has a thing for older guys, and she's upset that I'll probably never go gray.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:43:56 2015 No.2628427 >>2628339 I've been playing the counter strike games for more than 10 years and I'm better now than I ever was.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:45:25 2015 No.2628428 >>2628425 Nice. My genes suggest I'm gonna look like a creepy child molester.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:56:58 2015 No.2628442 >>2628339 >29 Wait until you actually get old. Your body doesn't really slow down until your 30s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 08:59:20 2015 No.2628445 >>2628383 >projecting this hard

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:00:43 2015 No.2628448 >>2628442 I remember reading a paper that said your reaction time starts to deteriorate at 25.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:10:58 2015 No.2628460 Modern lifestyles poison the hell out of you. Processed foods, pharmaceuticals, toxic chemicals, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:14:42 2015 No.2628465 >>2628460 Don't eat bread. Feel free to smoke marijuana and smoke meth, that shit is natural and good for you. But whatever you do, do not eat bread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:16:09 2015 No.2628468 >>2628465 Well, not Wonderbread anyway because that stuff isn't edible.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:31:26 2015 No.2628487 >>2628465 >meth and marijuana is good for you Well that's the dumbest shit I've heard in a while here, congratulations

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:49:37 2015 No.2628509
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>>2628442
This. You probably won't start to feel much different until you're past 35-40. But the biggest change is just simply not caring so much about these action games. Then at some point you get into the Sunday Bingo lifestyle and other weird stuff like shuffleboard, and then it's all over...

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:50:17 2015 No.2628510 File: 331 KB, 700x3287, 3ZduaAx.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2628487 Don't eat bread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:56:39 2015 No.2628517 >>2628465 Yeah man, weed is like, so natural it's like from the Earth and stuff just like ricin and the countless other deadly natural substances 420blayzeit

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:56:59 2015 No.2628518

>>2628339
Some are, but I'm developing other skills to compensate. I'm turning 50 in a few years and my reaction time has definitely taken a hit. But I've played so much that I just remember how to pass levels on so many games and can do it pretty much without even thinking. Reaction time doesn't really even come in to play.
In the case of fighters the same applies to moves. I can just spam ranged moves until the kid looses patience and makes a mistake. I also find it's much easier to predict what someone's going to do than it was when I was younger. Slower reaction time isn't a major obstacle when you know what your opponent is going to do before he even does it most of the time.
It helps that my youngest is a top notch gamer and likes a lot of the same stuff I do. If I had to practice against my friends, or even his, it would be so easy I'd actually get worse.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:57:25 2015 No.2628520

>>2628421
>Fuck, getting old sucks.
This fucking feel. You never thought it would happen to you either.

All those fags that died at 27 did it right I swear.

>>2628487
Could you seriously not tell that he was obviously being facetious? /vr/ proves itself to be the most autistic board yet again.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 09:57:56 2015 No.2628523

>>2628394
I've always kind of felt this way, too. It's also the only genre I really get into, so it might just be an issue of not really playing other games.

I'm really happy that I don't have to worry about skill deterioration in the future though, being as most of what I play is strategy and RPGs.

29 as well, OP. I'm kind of worried about getting old.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:00:39 2015 No.2628526 >>2628523 29 is not old man. Age ain't nothing but a thing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:03:54 2015 No.2628529 >>2628526 Yeah, obviously. Thanks, anon.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:04:47 2015 No.2628530

>>2628518
>I'm turning 50 in a few years and my reaction time has definitely taken a hit.

That's a sign that death is not far off. It's the so-called "terminal drop" hypothesis that cognitive functions begin deteriorating within a few months to as long as 5 years prior to death.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/749173

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/16/news/la-heb-forgetful-elderly-death-20120716

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/03/smell-test-longevity-study_n_7496322.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:08:41 2015 No.2628536 >being almost 50 >still using 4chan Talk about quadruple platinum wizard status.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:09:41 2015 No.2628540 >>2628536 Hush. He's probably got only a few years left on this planet anyway. Don't pick on the poor sod.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:12:34 2015 No.2628543 >>2628540 >>2628530 Golly, you guys are making me feel real good about myself now. 'Preciate it.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:13:13 2015 No.2628545

>>2628530
Are you retarded? It's documented for years in sports that reaction time gradually decreases by aging (along with some other physical traits). It doesn't mean he's going to die anytime soon. It just means it's time to retire from pro/competitive scene.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:13:13 2015 No.2628546 >>2628530 Well, you don't need scientific papers to know that at age 50.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:16:03 2015 No.2628549 >>2628546 Yeh but 50 seems an oddly young age to die at. Since this is 4chan of course, there's a high chance he suffers from morbid obesity and diabetes from years of a Tasty Kake/energy drink diet.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:17:29 2015 No.2628552

>>2628545
>It's documented for years in sports that reaction time gradually decreases by aging (along with some other physical traits)

Uh...yeah that was the point. If you start having a measurable loss of reactions and other cognitive functions, it's an indication that your body is starting to shut itself down and you're not long for this world. Sounds morbid, but hey, we all gotta go something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:21:19 2015 No.2628558 >>2628552 I remember that my grandfather...the last few weeks of his life acted very strange. Like he seemed to not notice you or pay attention to anything you told him even though he was not ill and had been going about his daily life same as always.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:22:14 2015 No.2628559 >>2628558 My Grandpa has been like that for about 15 years now, plus a 12-pack of Bud Light every day. Seems pretty anecdotal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:22:36 2015 No.2628560 >>2628518 Basically this poster gets it. When your reaction time starts to fade you start building better predicting skills through experience to compensate. It's the reason why older people make better drivers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:23:11 2015 No.2628562 >>2628559 Mine didn't drink or smoke. Also he was only in his early 70s so not that elderly.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:24:25 2015 No.2628565

>>2628560
>It's the reason why older people make better drivers

Are you stupid?

http://abc7ny.com/news/90-year-old-woman-crashes-car-into-bayside-clothing-store-/830041/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2957296/The-moment-92-year-old-driver-smashes-NINE-CARS-leaves-grocery-store-getting-foot-caught-gas-pedal.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/02/88-year-old-in-car-crash-that-killed-wife-pregnant-woman-surrenders-license/

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:25:25 2015 No.2628569 >>2628565 Well, I said old not senile.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:26:31 2015 No.2628571

>Back in the day me and my dad would play vidya all the time
>Our peak was on the PS1, mainly playing sports games but we were super competitive against each other.
>We would also play Donkey Kong Country co-op and had our own thing.
>Last month while visiting the parents I discovered our old SNES in our crawlspace
>asked my dad if he wanted to play for old times sake
>He was atrocious but was having such a good time just reliving the glory vidya days with his son.

Even if your skills fade, you can always enjoy yourself with video games, never let skills hinder the experience.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:27:01 2015 No.2628572

>>2628549
I know. My mom is like 60 and has cat-like reflexes. She has no diminishment that I can detect compared to herself 20 years ago. But then again, she doesn't have the BMI of the World of Warcraft nerd in South Park.

t. poor lifestyle choices can put you into an 80 year old body at 50

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:27:01 2015 No.2628573 >>2628565 But anyway, you get the point, predicting skills are infinitely better for driving than quick reflexes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:28:01 2015 No.2628576 >>2628572 Women age better than men anyway because stronger immune systems.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:28:45 2015 No.2628578

>>2628339
>Do you feel that your vidya skills are fading with age?
Not at all im 29 also and been mainly shmup player for 7 years and im playing better than ever. Reactions are only a part of it people need to realise memory and approach are much important and can balance out against slower reaction times (in the genres i play anyway)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:28:46 2015 No.2628579 >>2628552 Aging takes decades, and is a gradual process. If you compared your reaction time in your 20's vs. your 50's you would notice a difference, but it doesn't mean you're going to die in 5 years or less. Most people live until 70-80's these days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:29:02 2015 No.2628580 >>2628573 I don't get the impression that the people in those linked stories had good predicting skills. Or much of any mental skills at their age.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:29:53 2015 No.2628582 >>2628580 And you would be right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:30:08 2015 No.2628583 >>2628579 >but it doesn't mean you're going to die in 5 years or less. Most people live until 70-80's these days How much of that is due to modern medicine keeping you alive artificially?

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:32:03 2015 No.2628585

Cognitive abilities on average remain more-or-less stable from your mid-20s through your 50s, then there tends to be a slight drop in your 60s and a big drop from 70. Note that individual people may show considerable variance due to lifestyle, genetics, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:32:58 2015 No.2628590 >>2628578 Panic bombing is downright punished in some shoot'em up games anyway. Psykyo is particularly guilty of this.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:36:19 2015 No.2628595

>>2628583
It depends on the person, their culture, their lifestyle. It was pretty common for japanese to live healthy even into old age, but diets have changed and gotten much worse with westernization (ironically, traditional diet was more healthy).

Medicines are important for some diseases and viruses, but overall your lifestyle and diet are the most important factors (besides your genetics).

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:36:53 2015 No.2628597

>>2628571
This reminds me of a couple of times I saw older people playing games.

One was when I was a kid and MvC first came out. There was this long line of people waiting at 2p, with a short, balding older guy owning everyone. He finally lost when he got tired.

I also remember walking into a Best Buy and saw this old guy fighting Muhammad Ali in Fight Night Round 3 on a demo system. He was really into it.

I also remember this old guy I saw on the train who was owning it up at a Medal of Honor game on his PSP. It's pretty neat to see old people play video games.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:37:20 2015 No.2628598 >>2628595 They also had a lot less cancer with traditional asian diets. Something related with high carbs. DON'T EAT BREAD.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:38:31 2015 No.2628602 >>2628583 >>2628595 Big pharm is killing you, dude. >>2628565 I wonder just how many medications these old fucks were on. The US and New Zealand are the only countries in the world that allow prescription drug advertisements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:42:24 2015 No.2628606 File: 504 KB, 1536x2010, o-MICK-JAGGER-MOVES-LIKE-JAGGER-facebook.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2628598 Pfft, once upon a time, the idea of 70 year old men being rock stars was pretty unbelievable too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:43:57 2015 No.2628609 >>2628606 and they look fucking pathetic, tbh I'd rather age with dignity, whatever that means.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:46:22 2015 No.2628613

>>2628609
And Keef says they'll probably still be doing it when they're 80. "I'm still an apprentice. Like any artist, you never stop learning new things as you go along.

>mfw you realize he hasn't learned a single new thing since about 1968 when he ran out of stolen Chuck Berry licks

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:47:24 2015 No.2628617 ITT: Really, really uninformed broscience and random /b/ shit that has nothing to do with video games

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:48:47 2015 No.2628623 >>2628617 bread faggot detected

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:49:46 2015 No.2628625 >>2628543 Don't worry about those negative creeps m8.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:50:57 2015 No.2628629 >>2628579 Like anything else, you lose it if you don't use it. The best 70 year old athlete will never beat the best 30 year old athlete, but he can easily beat the obese fat fuck 30 year old who spends all day drinking cola and eating Doritos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:51:57 2015 No.2628632 >>2628625 >calling people "creeps" unironically You're a gril, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:52:30 2015 No.2628635 >>2628632 we all grills on 4chan

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:53:45 2015 No.2628638 >>2628339 I wonder if skill and reaction based video games help to keep your brain sharp in older age. Maybe this gen will be the most functionally cognitive generation in old age ever so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:54:37 2015 No.2628639 I'm not as good at modern fighting games but I'm just add dominant at two fighting games. .. this could be for a lot of reasons besides my age catching up with me though, probably mostly to do with how much time people have to invest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:55:43 2015 No.2628642 >>2628639 Which games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:56:15 2015 No.2628645 >>2628638 I'm going to off myself at 64 so I won't be around to see it, but hey, good luck with that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:58:22 2015 No.2628647 >>2628617 Cognitive reflexes start to slow down past age 24. Source: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0094215

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 10:59:44 2015 No.2628649

>>2628638
I think the lower rate of smoking and today's young people not living in a world of asbestos and leaded gasoline would be more of a factor than fucking children's games. The bad environmental conditions of the mid-20th century eventually caught up with those people as they aged.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:00:48 2015 No.2628652

>>2628647
You also start losing muscle mass and bone density at around that age due to a condition called Sarcopenia. I don't even mean this as trolling, it's just one of those hard facts of life, you will grow old and look like shit and there's nothing you can do about that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:01:39 2015 No.2628656 >>2628647 That would be an example of said broscience, ie. linking medical journals you never actually read beyond like one sentence and then taking the thing out of context. Face it dude, none of us has any training in the field of medicine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:02:42 2015 No.2628657 >>2628649 We might start reporting less cases of Alzheimer at least.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:03:13 2015 No.2628659

>>2628652
>I don't even mean this as trolling, it's just one of those hard facts of life, you will grow old and look like shit and there's nothing you can do about that

Uh...yeah. There's a reason I'm packing it at 64. It'll get you eventually unless you off yourself before it happens. 'Cos brotha, you sure don't want to become these people in >>2628565

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:03:44 2015 No.2628660 [DELETED]

>>2628657
>The present study investigates age-related changes in cognitive motor performance through adolescence and adulthood in a complex real world task, the real-time strategy video game StarCraft 2. In this paper we analyze the influence of age on performance using a dataset of 3,305 players, aged 16-44, collected by Thompson, Blair, Chen & Henrey [1]. Using a piecewise regression analysis, we find that age-related slowing of within-game, self-initiated response times begins at 24 years of age.
I'm quoting the paper itself, sounds pretty clear to me.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:05:10 2015 No.2628661

>>2628656
>The present study investigates age-related changes in cognitive motor performance through adolescence and adulthood in a complex real world task, the real-time strategy video game StarCraft 2. In this paper we analyze the influence of age on performance using a dataset of 3,305 players, aged 16-44, collected by Thompson, Blair, Chen & Henrey [1]. Using a piecewise regression analysis, we find that age-related slowing of within-game, self-initiated response times begins at 24 years of age.
I'm quoting the paper itself, sounds pretty clear to me.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:07:07 2015 No.2628667
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>>2628661
>The present study investigates age-related changes in cognitive motor performance through adolescence and adulthood in a complex real world task, the real-time strategy video game StarCraft 2

>playing a silly children's game
>real world task

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:08:39 2015 No.2628668 File: 48 KB, 600x600, 1365741512907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It is true that your reflexes will diminish a bit with age, however you shouldn't have a noticeable dropoff until >>2628530

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:09:10 2015 No.2628669 >>2628667 But that's what's being discussed here, silly. I don't care about what you consider real tasks or not.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:14:11 2015 No.2628674

>>2628642
Auto corrected "old games". I still stomp ass at street fighter 2, Tekken 2-3, and ESPECIALLY Killer Instinct arcade which I'm practically unbeatable at -though I heard it's available on 7th gen consoles for online play? I should really put myself to the modem test and find out if iit's the time I poured into it back in the day and modern gamers just don't. Might let me find out if rust is actually permanently destructive or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:16:15 2015 No.2628678 >>2628339 I find memory gets better with age. In my youth, I had tenacity, but now I analyze problems in games better.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:18:04 2015 No.2628682

>>2628667
Of course it can also be assumed that Starcraft neckbeards are not exactly the most active people or have the healthiest diets so that can also affect the results of that study. It goes without saying that living on a diet of Coke and Doritos doesn't exactly lead to good health or stamina levels.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:19:04 2015 No.2628686 >>2628617 Thread should have ended here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:20:30 2015 No.2628690 Depends on the game and my current state of fitness. A lot of people blame fading reflexes on age but often it comes down to being out of shape. I admit, I made the same mistake once upon a time.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:20:37 2015 No.2628691

General skill and gaming knowledge, no, but rote memorization, yes.

I could speed-run both Contra and Super C without losing any lives back in the day, but not so much 10 years later. Being able to beat those games means rote memorization of enemy patterns. Unless I exercise my memory on a regular basis, I'm going to forget those patterns eventually. If I take a few days to refresh my memory, then yes, I can resume speed-running both games without losing any lives.

Shmups are the worst. I used to be able to beat Life Force without losing any ships, but now I have to use the 30 ships code until I get used to certain stages again.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:22:29 2015 No.2628695

>>2628652
>you will grow old and look like shit and there's nothing you can do about that.
Yeah, but some people age slower and better than others. Some people have superior genes. I'm 29 but I still look around 21, feels so fucking good. Most of my friends look so much older than me, are fatter, have receding hairlines, wrinkles and shit. I've always looked young for my age though.

Also some people actually look better as they age, up until a certain point of course, like George Clooney. George looked way better at 40 than in his 20s.

But yeah, eventually we're all nothing but old farts and play-doh. I really hate aging. There's nothing that depresses me more in life than the fact that I'm getting old. I'm still a total manchild, too. My actual age does not reflect my mental age. Although the sad thing is you say you feel 21, but when you actually hang out with 21 year olds you do actually feel a fairly palpable difference in maturity. But hey, at least 18-21 year old qts still want my D big time, maybe more than ever, so I guess I'm still winning.

Life is such a fucking trip. 0-18 went by so fast, then when you hit your 20s it all goes by in a flash. Sorry to sound so superficial but I hate seeing that all these movie actors like Brad Pitt are suddenly old motherfuckers now. These assholes were supposed to be godlike and eternal and now here they are looking old as shit. It's like a reminder that it's happening to you, too, and you remembered them being young just yesterday. It feels like you're gonna be just as old as they are before you even know it.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:23:52 2015 No.2628698

>>2628690
I agree. Everyone experiences at least a little diminishment in their physical abilities with age, however you're not supposed to have serious deterioration in functionality until you're close to the end. Notice that animals die after a short illness. They don't linger for years in an adult diaper with an oxygen tank.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:24:15 2015 No.2628702 >>2628678 I noticed this too, specially in RPGs. I couldn't believe it took my younger self months to beat LttP, for instance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:25:06 2015 No.2628703 >>2628695 >Most of my friends look so much older than me, are fatter, have receding hairlines, wrinkles and shit. Yeah, eating junk food will do that to you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:26:34 2015 No.2628707 >>2628695 I can relate a lot to your post, man. Except for grills still wanting my D, that never happened.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:27:18 2015 No.2628709 >>2628690 I was out of shape throughout my 20's and my reflexes were great. I think it has more to do with having more free time to play games. If you don't use it, you lose it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:28:01 2015 No.2628712 File: 34 KB, 380x500, image[50].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2628703 It will happen regardless if you're a /fit/fag or not.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:28:39 2015 No.2628713

>>2628702
Hmm. Well, in games like Link's Awakening, I just become too frustrated to predict what comes next and check a guide. That shut with the book on top of the shelf was fucking ridiculous, it's a prime example of "do everything until something works".

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:28:43 2015 No.2628714 >>2628709 That's only your 20s though, that shit wouldn't fly in your 30s and beyond. You'd have to spend some time in the gym if you wanted to keep your reflexes top notch, that's just the way it is.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:29:30 2015 No.2628717 >>2628695 >0-18 went by so fast *I meant slow. 0-18 went slowly and every year felt different, but the 20's were over in a blink of an eye

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:30:48 2015 No.2628719 >>2628714 I don't understand how exactly working your body out helps hand-to-eye coordination?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:31:53 2015 No.2628720 >>2628364 I feel you bro, pushing 40 as well and reaction is starting to slow, partly due to OA.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:32:34 2015 No.2628723 >>2628719 Neither do I, but it does.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:33:23 2015 No.2628725 >>2628723 Tendon muscles, I guess.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:34:36 2015 No.2628726

>>2628576
>Women age better than men
lolwut?

When women hit 30 (at the latest, some even at 27) they literally hit a brick wall and it's all downhill. It's ridiculous how badly they age once they hit that magic number. A guy will generally look better in his 30's and 40's than in his 20's provided he doesn't go bald or fat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:35:35 2015 No.2628728 >>2628725 I try to work out my tendon muscle every day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:36:37 2015 No.2628729 >>2628726 *Also bear in mind that women are always playing tricks with their makeup and face paints. It's all a ruse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:38:47 2015 No.2628737 >>2628726 >>2628729 this is bullshit made up by puafags, men age worse than shitcunts precisely because we DON'T have access to make up tricks, botox, face lift surgeries, etc

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:46:02 2015 No.2628752

>>2628737

"Aging well" is relative to what is attractive.

Age does not have a significant negative impact on a man's attractiveness because age does not have a significant negative impact on his fertility. A 55 year old man can still get a 20 year old woman's juices flowing if he has looked after himself.

Most 20 year old men would not look twice at a 55 year old woman unless she was VERY exceptional and he had a particular taste. Instinct tells him to pass her over because her plumbing is all dried up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:49:43 2015 No.2628757 >>2628752 except males are fawning over old cunts all the time in those milf threads on /b/. yeah, nah, you're deluded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:53:38 2015 No.2628760 >>2628757 >>2628737 Yeah, you guys need to get off the internet. Real life MILFs are rare. Now look at how much young women are dating older men. Faggot. Women in their 20s fucking 30 or 40, even 50 year old guys. You are the ones deluded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:54:48 2015 No.2628763 My vidya skill has become much better ever since I've become a NEET, though when I was younger I wasn't all that good at video games. Born in 93, I mainly grew up with 6th gen stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:55:39 2015 No.2628768 >>2628737 Men just become more desirable as they age. Not just in looks but in all aspects of their life and it drops off much later than women.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:57:19 2015 No.2628769 >>2628760 Fucking truth. Milfs are fucking chads and Dilfs are fucking 18yo girls

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:58:20 2015 No.2628772 >>2628757 >except males are fawning over old cunts all the time in those milf threads on /b/ Wait, you think /b/ is an accurate cross-section of the real world? >you're deluded Define irony.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 11:59:45 2015 No.2628775 >>2628768 >Men just become more desirable as they age. lol you guys seriously believe that. Ok.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:00:30 2015 No.2628776 >>2628645 Why? Do you have 6-bit body? Normally people on /vr/ are 8-bit at least, so you can theoretically live up to age 127 (assuming signed byte, because there's negative age during pregnancy).

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:01:20 2015 No.2628780 >>2628776 Whoa, dude. Hand me that joint you're smoking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:04:05 2015 No.2628782 File: 9 KB, 284x160, laughing whores.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2628760 >Now look at how much young women are dating older men. >>2628769 >Dilfs are fucking 18yo girls RETRO VIDEOGAMES!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:06:55 2015 No.2628784 >>2628775 as a 30 yo I cant speak for everyone but that's how my life went >18 awkward and unfuckable >21 doing better still single mostly >28 always dating someone younger and attractive >30 found the "one"

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:10:19 2015 No.2628792 >>2628784 This, of course when we say older men we don't mean 70 year old farts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:15:44 2015 No.2628804 I imagine I'll get more into RPGs as I get older, better to play hardcore action titles now. I'm already tolerating turn-based battles which I hated a few years ago. Some more years and maybe I'll even start drawing maps, UGH.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:20:08 2015 No.2628809 File: 23 KB, 250x250, 1300044776986.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2628752 >because age does not have a significant negative impact on his fertility

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:21:18 2015 No.2628812 >>2628712 Ladies and gentlemen, the end result of steroid abuse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:21:41 2015 No.2628814 >>2628809 just down some viagra you impotent geezer

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:23:46 2015 No.2628818 Seriously though, the quality of sperm begins deteriorating from about 42. Would you seriously think an 80 year old man has as good sperm as a 25 year old?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:27:34 2015 No.2628825 If you practiced anything like a remotely /fit/ lifestyle, you should be able to do nearly anything at least into your 60s. Maybe not at 80 though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:28:27 2015 No.2628827 >>2628530 Thanks for the advice Doogie. >>2628560 b-b-but everyone over 30 is senile.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:30:44 2015 No.2628830 >>2628818 Why don't you do a taste test and let us know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:30:51 2015 No.2628831 >>2628442 33 here. My reaction has only slowed because I haven't been able to play as much anymore. Too much life going on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:32:02 2015 No.2628836 >>2628831 That plays a role too, time becomes a scarce resource at around that age.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:35:53 2015 No.2628841 File: 38 KB, 600x499, zyzz_zps52efe495.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Age is an excuse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:37:26 2015 No.2628845 >>2628760 >Real life MILFs are rare. Because you're so you're still breast feeding. For you their MILS.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:38:52 2015 No.2628848 >>2628841 >also did roids

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:39:06 2015 No.2628849 [DELETED]

ITT: We learned the following interesting "facts"

1. Old men have as good sperm as 20-30 year olds
2. Old people are not only great drivers, they get better with time
3. By the age of 30, you have comparable reflexes and hand-eye coordination to an 80 year old dementia patient
4. Gremlins went and put Hillary Clinton's emails on some server they weren't supposed to be on
5. Meth is better for you than eating a piece of bread

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:40:12 2015 No.2628852 >>2628849 at least meth won't give you cancer

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:42:29 2015 No.2628862 >>2628849 18 year olds are fucking DILFs, don't forget that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:46:12 2015 No.2628865 Nah, not really. I'm only 27, but the only thing I find fading is my concentration. Even that I believe is due to sleeping and other issues instead of general weakening of my brain or dedication to things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 12:48:02 2015 No.2628869 Paul Newman was like in his 70s and still doing auto racing. Man up, you babbies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 13:30:41 2015 No.2628928 >>2628862 Can confirm. /hm/ has at least 3 active DILF threads on the first page at any given time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 13:33:49 2015 No.2628931 Nah not really, maybe as I get older physically it'll get more difficult due to my pending arthritis but I'm always up for a challenge. Mentally I view it as an exercise so the more I the more I do it the better I get.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 13:41:03 2015 No.2628943 >>2628928 >he thinks /hm/'s userbase is made up of hot teen girls Where do you think we are?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:01:00 2015 No.2628971 Some of /vr/ is so old and closed-minded that they would never accept young people playing retro videogames. They would probably just think of them as posers or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:01:07 2015 No.2628972 >>2628849 >ITT: We learned that prepubescents learned all that shit from this thread. How did you learn anything when you already know everything?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:09:44 2015 No.2628989 >>2628943 >he thinks /hm/'s userbase is made up of hot teen girls Um, no I don't. No one said anything about girls. I post there on a regular basis. Retro gaming just happens to be another one of my interests.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:15:31 2015 No.2629001

>>2628339
I'm 42 and can definitely feel it. Certain genres like shmups and fighters that I'm just nowhere near as good as I used to be. I can still do pretty well at slower fighters like SF or the like, but the fast ones are totally inaccessible to me at this point.

There's still plenty of stuff to play and it's all good fun, but I can certainly feel age starting to affect things.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:18:01 2015 No.2629003 >>2629001 Go to the gym and lay off the Tasty Kakes, you fat fucker.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:19:00 2015 No.2629004 >>2628989 Are you a grill? LONDON?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:20:14 2015 No.2629007 >>2629001 >slower fighters like SF You must only play the original SF1 or World Warrior, then. No one plays Street Fighter at anything below Turbo 3.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:20:35 2015 No.2629008 Just finished Battletoads in one sitting the other day on Rare Replay I still got it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:21:23 2015 No.2629010 >>2629003 You hurt my feelings. And I'll have you know my weight condition is glandular.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:21:36 2015 No.2629013 >>2629004 Yes and yes. Don't hit on me you silly boys.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:32:53 2015 No.2629038
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>>2629001
>tfw you will never play tribes ctf or rabbit, or a pug again because you can't possibly get up to a competitive level

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:50:37 2015 No.2629075

>>2629003
It's not that, I'm in pretty good shape still. Actually better than I was in my 20's probably. But I can feel things starting to get a little slow in the reaction department.

>>2629007
I'm actually talking about SFIV. I actually never liked the series much until 3 (KoF fan) but the only KoF that has even slightly decent net code is XIII and I hate that one. I could have mentioned Injustice but that usually just brings trolling.

>>2629038
Actually Tribes and Tribes 2 I probably still could get into. I used to be massively into both those games and was actually playing Tribes 1 on a private server not too long ago. Those are still perfectly good.

But, there was a time when I could 1cc Gaiares and the like, and now I can barely make it through. That's more the kind of thing I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:52:52 2015 No.2629081 File: 86 KB, 640x400, southpark-nerd3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ITT: People that look like this and wonder why they have the reflexes of a garden slug

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:57:59 2015 No.2629092 >>2629081 >implying that's what every 4chan poster looks like. Most people on /vr/ are just your average bros who has their lives together.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:58:24 2015 No.2629094

If we're talking single player games:

>26
>Way more aware of how mechanics work and my thought process is a shitload better when it comes to puzzle solving and taking advantage of game systems
>Not nearly as skilled as I used to, mainly because I don't have time to drop 6-8 hours a day on games anymore.

Mixed bag. I've really been trying to play newer stuff (for me), like stuff I missed out on these days. Vagrant Story always eluded me because it was too complicated for my childlike brain. Its actually pretty simple and reading the ingame documentation helped a shitload (which obviosuly, I never did as a child). Very satisfying game with great atmosphere.

I still tend to favor action games though, and am really finding JRPG-style (games I used to love as a kid) to be incredibly grating and dull.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:58:47 2015 No.2629096 File: 97 KB, 1280x720, mihygwBKi61qevnqqo3_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2629092

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 14:59:29 2015 No.2629098 >>2629096 He said /vr/, not /v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:01:58 2015 No.2629113 >>2629098 It's the same damn board except /vr/ is slightly older userbase. /v/ averages about 14 and we're maybe 20.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:03:34 2015 No.2629116 >>2629113 That 6 year gap makes all the difference. People here have been far nicer in my experience and actually helpful when I wanted advice about CRTs or computers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:05:57 2015 No.2629119 Lol @ not being on steroids/TRT after the age of 40. Once I turn 40 I'm pumping testosterone into my body, end of story. I don't see why men are so complacent with letting their body shutdown and become overweight and eternally flaccid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:06:02 2015 No.2629120 >>2629116 I can say though that /v/ is not as bad as people make it out to be if you have actual questions and such. At least not in my experience.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:06:23 2015 No.2629121 >>2629116 You are clearly very very new here and not aware that there is a very substantial level of shitposting eg. the Yuropoor vs Amerifat Commodore 64 threads or Amiga is a shitty furfag computer or asinine console wars.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:07:23 2015 No.2629125 >>2629119 >TRT Biggest scam ever. Enjoying dying in 10 years of cancer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:08:12 2015 No.2629128 >>2629121 Those are definitely the contrarians on this board. There's little shitposting here. >>2629119 You're probably going to create more problems than solutions.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:08:23 2015 No.2629130 >>2629113 Vat? I thought we had more oldfags who were like 30-40 (?)

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:09:06 2015 No.2629134 >>2629075 I dunno I cant get 10 or 15 MAs a game anymore because I'm out of practice so I can't defend myself or chase. I could camp somewhere with a mortar but that's not helpful in lt or most pugs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:09:23 2015 No.2629138 >>2629130 Eh, maybe 3-4 of them and they all look like >>2629081. Most of /vr/ is just dumb kids who watched AVGN videos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:12:13 2015 No.2629149 >>2629125 >>2629128 Good, good SJWs. Fear the evil testosterone. Men should be weak and overweight and unable to maintain erections and lack energy as they grow old.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:15:19 2015 No.2629160 [DELETED]

Anyway...

http://healthscamsexposed.com/2014/03/the-testosterone-scam-that-kills-healthy-men/

http://health.usnews.com/health-news/managing-your-healthcare/sexual-and-reproductive-health/articles/2010/11/05/no-magic-in-testosterone-replacement-therapy

http://www.drugwatch.com/testosterone/strokes/

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2013/09/cincinnati-doctor-warns-testosterone.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:18:39 2015 No.2629169 Reminds me of Dixie Carter. Bragged about hormone replacement therapy for years as an anti-aging remedy. She died of cancer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:19:01 2015 No.2629171 >>2629149 It's not bad, but you can easily take more than you need, which causes your body to stop making it's own, and you'll be a hulk of your former self...for worse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:19:11 2015 No.2629172 >>2629160 Nice I can post links too http://www.newsmax.com/Health/Anti-Aging/low-t-testosterone-blood/2015/07/20/id/658033/ >Testosterone Doesn't Cause Blood Clots: Study

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:19:50 2015 No.2629174

>>2629119
>>2629125
My bros a cop, and I'm into natural bodybuilding.

The second we get to be like 35-40ish were going to start juicing.

Quite honestly you'd be a fool not to at least supplement your test. Testosterone does so much for your body. There have been studies where people who changed absolutely nothing, except had testosterone added gained up to 15 lbs of muscle and lost a lot of fat, had more energy throughout the day, and had better sleep cycles.

Seriously. If T was legal for everyone (not just F>M trannies) we could be looking at a society that looks much different. Less obesity. Less depression. A stronger youth workforce, etc.

Its literally like magic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:20:05 2015 No.2629175 Basically, Big Pharm brainwashed thousands of stupid baby boomers into thinking they take a magic pill to be 25 again instead of getting off their ass, going to the gym, and not eating Big Macs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:21:39 2015 No.2629179 Now, the other thing is that TRT usually involves synthetic testosterone made in a Pfizer lab somewhere that isn't even chemically the same thing as your natural testosterone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:22:43 2015 No.2629181 >>2629175 most of us already hit the gym, ever thought about that?

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:22:56 2015 No.2629183

>>2629134
When I played last I was still pretty good. But definitely practice is a thing. When I got back into fighters around when SFIV came out, I was pretty rusty. But after several years of playing regularly I got not bad, and in Injustice my fighter of choice I hold my own quite well. It's slow as the genre goes these days, I doubt I'd do as well if I was trying to succeed at Guilty Gear and the like.

Also, to all the youths out there who think aging is just letting yourself go and getting fat, I hate to tell you it's not. It's inevitable, and if you make it to the point where your body actually does start to give out then you're among the lucky. I've seen too many people die before their time.

If you doubt it, make some videos now, of you at your best excelling at some game and then save it. Watch them when you're 40 or 50 and then try to replicate it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:25:03 2015 No.2629191 >>2629174 Legit. It just sucks that it's illegal. I refuse to look the average 40/50 year old man. Fucking depressing. Shit even looking like the average 20 year old would make me think about suicide. Once I feel my body slowing down, it's test time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:27:14 2015 No.2629198 >>2629183 >It's inevitable Yes but you'd have to take pretty amazingly poor care of yourself to have a 70 year old body at 30-40. You should be well past retirement age before your body starts to give out on you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:29:58 2015 No.2629207 >>2629198 >most people don't take good care of themselves Stop the presses. That's why I said people die before their time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:30:29 2015 No.2629208 >>2629191 >tfw just lift. I'm not ripped, but I'm at least fairly healthy.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:33:52 2015 No.2629216

>>2629198
>Yes but you'd have to take pretty amazingly poor care of yourself to have a 70 year old body at 30-40.

Ohh of course, I didn't mean to imply that at all. And taking care of yourself is of utmost importance. This is the only body you get. Bu the mirror of what you said is also true. You're simply not going to have the body of a 30 year old when you're 70. All I'm really saying is don't squander your youth.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:34:41 2015 No.2629217

>>2629198
Nah, shit just starts to go south.

>Parents friend is losing his hearing, he's like 54, has to wear hearing aids
>Everyones eyesight gets worse
>General lethargy as you get older, spend more time napping/sleeping
>Less ability to develop muscle, more likelihood to put on weight
>Chances are you're going to get some kind of illness. Cancer, Diabetes, etc.
My uncle just developed Type1-diabetes. He's 58. He hasn't had any health problems and lives a fairly healthy lifestyle, and runs probably 3x a week.

My parents are in the best shape they've ever been in. They've been running quite a bit, but they still flake out on the couch and fall asleep watching netflix at 10pm. They often take naps during the weekends as well.

Its just the nature of things, shit just starts going south.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:41:24 2015 No.2629227

>>2629217
Yep, just like I said. Live on a junk food diet and don't exercise and oh shock, I have an 80 year old body at 40-50 and I weigh 400 pounds and need a motor scooter to move. Some people are just genetically unlucky of course but by and large you get the health you deserve.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:44:15 2015 No.2629229 >>2629227 Sounds like that poor sod's family hit the wrong side of the genetic lottery. Some people have inherently poor immune systems and can't resist disease incursions well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:45:33 2015 No.2629230 >>2629229 I didn't know that.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:47:31 2015 No.2629237

>>2629230
Yes the overall strength of your immune system is important. That's why some people can be like 85 and drop dead one day after painting a fence and they were never sick while others are like in their 50s and look like a decrepit old man. If you have ass genetics, you can't really do much to help that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:48:28 2015 No.2629241 File: 40 KB, 594x404, forever-young-jack-lalanne-bodybuildingcom-tribute_a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Jack wasn't just juicing vegetables. This dude found the fountain of youth, TESTOSTERONE

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:48:31 2015 No.2629242 >>2629237 We all remember what Satchel Paige said. "How old would you be if you didn't know how old you was."

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:52:33 2015 No.2629252

>>2629237
Genetics really determine how long we live and that's pretty much hardwired. Lifestyle won't affect it. What you're more out to do is ensure maximum quality of life within the life expectancy your genes let you have.

>>2629241
Say, Jack Lalanne probably had longevity in his genes since his mother lived to 93 and his brother to 97 even though neither were health nuts. So he likely could have lived to 96 regardless, perhaps not as fit and vital though.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:52:48 2015 No.2629254

>>2629229

In my opinion, genetics play a bigger role in health issues than other factors. I eat like a health nut and have been a vegetarian for almost a decade, but I have several autoimmune issues including thyroid problems, a bladder disease, food allergies and allergic reactions to several things in my environment. I've had to take immunosuppressants before.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:54:54 2015 No.2629258

>>2629252
>Genetics really determine how long we live and that's pretty much hardwired. Lifestyle won't affect it

Right...

This guy >>2629217 claims his parents are decrepit fuckers despite a decent level of exercise. I'd wager they just have shit genetics that can't really be worked around. They're fated to die in their 60s and there's nothing they can do about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:55:36 2015 No.2629260 >>2629254 sitting in yo ass all day aint gonna do u any good no matter what genetics you got this is why i work out to compensate for my sedentary life

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:55:56 2015 No.2629261 >>2629252 My bad, I meant external fountain of youth

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:56:13 2015 No.2629263 >>2629229 In olden days, people with poor immune systems used to be wiped out by tuberculosis and pneumonia at young ages.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:57:31 2015 No.2629267

I'm 30 and no. But if it's like 99.5% of what it used to be, you're really not going to notice. It's not a case of actually being able to do something in a game with practice, almost no games actually challenge you in a way that you could never actually get it even with unlimited practice/strategy.

Arthritis though could really fuck you up, and even for just typing and mouse movement it mightn't be very nice. But what're you going to do, shit sucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:59:49 2015 No.2629269 >>2629237 Yes...biological age is more important than chronological age. A given 70 year old may be actually 50 under the hood while another may be 90.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 15:59:56 2015 No.2629270

>>2629263
you think our inmune systems got better NOW that we have thousands of ways of preventing death from sickness? If anything, the people before used to have better immune systems or just DIE. Thats what evolution is for. Now we defy evolution and let the weak and underdeveloped survive, practically making our whole race worse.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:05:01 2015 No.2629279

>>2629270
Back in the Middle Ages/Renaissance, the peasants had a much lower rate of infant mortality than the nobility who lost babies left and right. Why? The nobility used wet nurses to feed infants, women for hire that went around feeding all different people's babies which contributed to the spread of pathogens.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:07:32 2015 No.2629281 File: 79 KB, 600x400, 02_full_600x400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2629270 People in India who live in total filth are probably much tougher than we are just because we're so used to cleanliness that we lack the same immunoresistance.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:10:14 2015 No.2629283 Like I said earlier, when you start developing chronic health conditions, it generally means the body is starting to shut itself down and death is approaching. This could happen in your 50s or perhaps not until your 80s.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:15:47 2015 No.2629297 Being 22 I probably err on the younger side of /vr/ posters, but I don't feel like im getting worse, I keep improving.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:21:37 2015 No.2629310

>>2629283
Apparently you were full of shit earlier as well. My dad got chronic horrible arthritis in his 50s or so and lived until he was 81. I got chronic horrible COPD 7-8 years ago and am doing fine now. People get osteoporosis or diabetes which are chronic, and live decades after it. People get chronic diseases all the time, it doesn't mean their bodies are "shutting down" due to age at all in any sense.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:49:22 2015 No.2629372

'84 represent.
If anything, my initial skills have improved, but I feel like I have less patience for trying to master high skill/reflex games than back in the day.
When you were a kid you only had a limited selection of games available to you, and trough rage and commitment you mastered that shit. Now I have too much life going on and too many other hobbies to approach that level of commitment, but the odd blue moon when I'm able, I feel I do so with more experience and skill than before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:51:07 2015 No.2629375 >>2629281 Those who survive, sure. Then there are those who perish before the age of 30.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 16:53:53 2015 No.2629378 >>2629375 this, they have a much shorter lifespan than western nations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 17:06:18 2015 No.2629402 >>2629174 Are you from Chicago?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:23:56 2015 No.2629667 >>2629402 This thread is now officially a /fit/fag fest

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:32:43 2015 No.2629691 [SPOILER]

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>>2629297
Yeah, you're around your physical peak. Don't let this precious window close without living it to the fullest.
There's still time for you to complete the Solid Snake Simulation.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:38:43 2015 No.2629706

>>2629378
The reason they have a short lifespan isn't because of lack of civilization, it's because of the civilization they do have. (I know noone said that, I'm just making and important point).

In his natural habitat man survives indefinitely, in full health and vigour, and unless he's unfortunate enough to get eaten dies at a really old age. Civilization caused plagues everywhere because of tons of people living together without sanitation and without the natural environment that normally houses primates.

People in western countries live longer... but often in terrible, terrible agony.. What kind of a life is it with alzheimers etc.? Often it would be much more a mercy to let them die in peace. So living longer isn't the best measurement.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:44:05 2015 No.2629721

>>2628339
I'm 33 and although I don't feel like my skills have begun to wane, my tolerance for online shenanigans certainly has. I don't feel like I can be bothered to put the time and effort into getting good and being competitive anymore. Give me a 70+ hour single player game and I'm happy as a cat with a cream-flavoured arsehole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:44:16 2015 No.2629725 >>2629706 >What kind of a life is it with alzheimers This reminded me that I should get tested. My wife's getting worried about me.

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:47:29 2015 No.2629728

>>2629706
Age related symptoms and diseases drive forward research and cures. Of course it's fucked up that people that old and in constant pain can't legally off themselves or be legally offed when it's pretty clear they're already gone, but it's a preferable alternative to children dying in the streets and drives medical progress forward.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:47:59 2015 No.2629730 >>2628339 tbh I'm jealous I didn't grow up with unforgiving games, I wish I did so I built up skill and perseverance. First Console was PS1, wish it was NES. Playing fighters and BulletHells to make up for it though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:51:09 2015 No.2629741 >>2628509 >Be at old people resort visiting my grandparents >Go to the shuffle board court >Get hustled for chores by old people ...

Anonymous Fri Aug 21 19:54:47 2015 No.2629748

>>2629741
Old people are the worst man.

>Visiting my brother
>Small town
>Old lady in the apartment across from him accosts us as we're returning from Subway
>She needs help moving furniture because shes moving 2 floors down
>Brother clearly doesn't want to
>We go anyways because whatever
>Pick up the shelf and move it
>As soon as we put it down she asks us to move more stuff
>Brother tells her to hire some fucking movers and walks away
>See her later as we leave and she accosts us again trying to get us to more shit
>She is literally waiting in the hallway to guilt trip anyone into helping her move

Fuck. Just spend some fucking money.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 00:18:50 2015 No.2630275

>>2629310
>My dad got chronic horrible arthritis in his 50s or so and lived until he was 81. I got chronic horrible COPD 7-8 years ago and am doing fine now. People get osteoporosis or diabetes which are chronic, and live decades after it. People get chronic diseases all the time, it doesn't mean their bodies are "shutting down" due to age at all in any sense.

See >>2628583

The way we originally evolved, if you got chronic arthritis, you wouldn't last very long because a lion would eat you or something. Notice how a lot of animals like horses die extremely fast after breaking a leg. Evolutionary thing. You'd simply be food if you can run from prey, so your body essentially initiates self-destruct mode.

t. it's completely unnatural to live with ailments for years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 00:20:33 2015 No.2630281 >>2629297 >Being 22 I probably err on the younger side of /vr/ posters Nah you're about average.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 00:23:29 2015 No.2630282 31 here. I am still moderately good at fighting games. Even if my reflexes arent as good as when I was 10-25 I dont want fighting games to get easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 00:25:25 2015 No.2630289 You shouldn't lose any measurable amount of reflexes until well past the age of 50 and even then, exercise can help you stay effective.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 00:33:59 2015 No.2630302 >>2630281 Eh? I was sure we had more dudes >30 than average.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 00:35:00 2015 No.2630304 >>2630302 Not really, no. There's a few old dudes but not that many. It's mostly just dumb teenagers who watched AVGN videos.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:02:52 2015 No.2630348

Life is short.

My uncle was riding a horse one day and it fell into a stream on top of him and he drowned. Another uncle was surfing in Hawaii and got eaten by sharks. My maternal grandpa was a miserable SOB who drove his family away. He eventually died after falling and breaking his neck and nobody but him was there to know. My paternal grandpa died young when he drowned while duck hunting. And lastly, my aunt ran away from home in the late 70s as a teenager and everyone assumed some serial killer got her. Turns out she's living in California as a hermit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:14:02 2015 No.2630365 My gf's dad worked from the age of 16, saved for retirement, had plenty of money there, retired at 62, and almost immediately got cancer and died. Pffffffftttttttt....

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:17:16 2015 No.2630372

>>2630365
Well my dad got the boot at 59 from the company he'd worked at nearly 40 years. He was looking forward to retiring and not upset at all, but died of a heart attack three weeks after turning 60. I myself doubt I'll live much longer than that. Not that I'm going to complain since who wants to end their days with a nurse changing your poopy adult diaper anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:17:17 2015 No.2630373 >>2629691 But Colonel, it's not retro but I already beat MGS 2 on Extreme, with all the Dog Tags and VR missions complete!

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:18:38 2015 No.2630378 >>2630304 Unfortunately. Ive been browsing since the boards inception, and boy howdy had it taken a nose dive. Still love you guys though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:22:41 2015 No.2630386 >>2630378 > and boy howdy had it taken a nose dive This thread being an example.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:39:28 2015 No.2630429 >>2630372 Ouch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:40:46 2015 No.2630432 >>2630429 Yeah it's freaky, man. He was completely healthy, had never been sick in his life, but he just dropped one day of a heart attack and that was that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:50:38 2015 No.2630452 The real answer is to live every stage of your life fully and enjoy every minute. People who spend every waking minute whining about their aches and pains and doctor visits are the type that end up in a rest home pooping themselves.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:52:53 2015 No.2630456

>>2630432
I have an even better story. My dad's one co-worker retired at 62. Completely healthy, vital guy. Went to a retirement luncheon they threw for him and ended up dying before he could get home that afternoon.

>dying at work
Can't think of a worse way to go than that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:55:16 2015 No.2630458 >>2630432 >>2630456 >tfw my dad is 56 Stop making me nervous anons. His father died of alcohol poisoning but his mother is still going at 78 damnit, and the guy's healthier than me at thirty years his junior. Wait, what if he outlives me?

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 01:58:32 2015 No.2630463

It's the health screenings, I tells you. They keep looking obsessively until finding something wrong with you that they can prescribe a pill. Or two. Or four. Or eight. These drugs create nasty side effects that require still more drugs to counteract them. Then, like the other 100,000 people a year who end up this way, you'll die of an adverse drug reaction or else go in for an unnecessary surgery and succumb to a staph infection due to the hospital not practicing proper sanitation. That or the doctor completely fucks shit up and you die from his incompetence.

Think of all the older relatives you have that died. How many of them had a condition that was "discovered" during a routine health screening. Once the medical system gets ahold of them, they're probably dead in four years.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:03:28 2015 No.2630470

>>2630463
>only person in family whos had real medical issues is my grandmother
>anemic
>glaucoma
>gallstones

You can take your illuminati shit somewhere else. Routine medical examintations are good, and you don't have to take perscriptions from your doctor you fucking faggot.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:03:29 2015 No.2630471

I'm 45 so a bit older than most on 4chan. I have some years before worrying about retirement, but I have had older co-workers. In my experience, the guys that dropped right after retirement were in bad health anyway. So my experience is a little different from some of yours.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:05:27 2015 No.2630473

>>2630471
There's definitely an element of people dying BECAUSE they retire. I don't know if there's any actual studies on it, but it seems like so many people drop dead between one and five years after they "stop" whatever they were doing with their life. Sitting around and doing nothing probably kills a lot more people than you'd think.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:12:31 2015 No.2630481 >>2630473 I've seen those studies and it is a thing. Men much more than women, if they don't have or can't establish a life outside of work they'll stop working and die right away.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:13:29 2015 No.2630483

I have seen many people who look eagerly forward to retirement. They think they're gonna travel to exotic places, fuck underage prostitutes in Third World countries, get sloshed on the beach, spend all day golfing, etc.

Well, most of them (like 80%) are dead within five years of retiring. Without the structured workplace environment, they lose their sense of purpose. It's neurological; when you perform a certain task a lot, your brain rewires itself that way. After retiring, you find that your brain has been "programmed" for certain tasks and once it doesn't have them anymore, you start to break down physically even if it's not immediately apparent.

My neighbor is like 81 and still gets up every day to work on his son's ranch. He handles horses, builds fences, and delivers calves. He has a purpose and goal in his daily life that keeps him alive and vital. But out here in rural Texas, this is the norm. Many people never stop farming or ranching until they die and it's not unusual for them to still be at it into their 80s.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:14:31 2015 No.2630484

>>2630483
>My neighbor is like 81 and still gets up every day to work on his son's ranch. He handles horses, builds fences, and delivers calves. He has a purpose and goal in his daily life that keeps him alive and vital. But out here in rural Texas, this is the norm. Many people never stop farming or ranching until they die and it's not unusual for them to still be at it into their 80s.

Well what the fuck else is there to do in rural Texas?

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:22:22 2015 No.2630494

>>2630481
>Men much more than women
Not based on my experience. My mother worked at a law firm. A librarian there retired at 65 and died the next year. Another female coworker was still going at 67. When she didn't come into the office one day, they sent someone to her apartment to check on her and found her dead.

Different coworker same exact deal except she was 60. One other chick died at 57. Turned out she had no life outside of work and spent the weekends alone in her apartment drinking.

Another an heroed at only 42.

All of these were single women, either divorced with grown kids or else spinsters that had never married in the first place. Marriage and family life definitely are good for you and loneliness a killer. But then again, this was the proverbial musty old law firm. Not much life inside or outside of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:23:46 2015 No.2630497 My dad's a retired cop still going strong at 63 but it seems that a helluva lot of cops die soon after retiring.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:27:18 2015 No.2630501

If you have a desk job and you don't set aside time each day for exercise, you are setting yourself up for trouble.

About a third of my office is made up of fatties who are on 10 different prescription medications. I'm pretty sure none of them exercise at all.

t. take care of yourself

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:29:06 2015 No.2630503

>>2630458
my father got drunk in late 2012, fell hard on the floor, hit his head, fainted, and since then he has been deaf, with bad equilibrium, and much dumber.

Shortly before that, he had bragged to me about being a "hot mature man for women" and of how much money he made, while I was a fat nerd, less attractive even though of my youth.

Now, I am basically his tutor.

Life is cruel like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:32:51 2015 No.2630508 This thread has so much to do with video games, no?

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:43:33 2015 No.2630520

The aging process is a mind over matter. thing.

Physical ailments are a manifestation of an emotional discord within....

there's a ton of literature out there giving the underlying cause to that which ails you, and things you can do to repair and reverse those aches and pains.

DIET is HUGE. cut the crap out of your diet. Eat more organically. drink more water. More alkaline in the body ( i just read an article on that today as a matter of fact) Exercise and meditate daily.

underlying cause of it all = FEAR.

quit the mind chatter. stop the worry. gain a more positive attitude on life.

you sit around whining about aches and pains and saying you're too old for this and that and it ends up a self fulfilling prophecy

focus on that in your life that is going right!

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:44:52 2015 No.2630521

>>2630520
Oh for the love of...

Some of this is true (managing diet, stress), but to say that EVERY SINGLE PHYSICAL AILMENT IS A MANIFESTATION OF EMOTIONAL DISCORD WITHIN can also be used to blame the victim.

Sure, my late sister who was Type I diabetic (that's juvenile diabetes, not the kind you get from existing almost exclusively on sugar and grease) suffered from kidney failure, early menopause, osteoporosis and various diabetic neuropathies because she had so much "emotional discord" at the age of 8 that she gave herself an incurable condition. If only she'd meditated more in elementary school...

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 02:48:57 2015 No.2630526

I guess I got lucky genetically, at least on the male side of the family (the women have not fared so well). My one grandfather is 92 and still pretty fit, has all of his mental faculties, and drives a car (safely). The other is 91 and still works. Neither look close to their age. My dad is 70 and looks like he's in his 50s. I could not imagine him slowing down anytime soon.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 03:40:40 2015 No.2630572

You know what it all boils down to? At the end of the day, you get the old age you deserve. My grandfather was just the nicest guy on earth who'd give you the shirt off his back. He died at only 74, but still fully active and going about his life same as he always did. My grandmother died at 86 in a home. She was a chronically whiny hypochondriac obsessed with old age and death. I hate to say it because she wasn't a malicious person by any means, just very immature and child-like, but it was never going to end any other way.

Anonymous Sat Aug 22 04:16:26 2015 No.2630617

We've seen it before. We've all seen the commercials targeted at baby boomers showing the 80 year old guy hang gliding or riding a motorcycle or cruising in a yacht. The claim being "Alzheimer's Disease and shitting in your Depends? Nah, that was your parents' old age. Boomers are special snowflakes that won't happen to you." Those who end up shitting in their Depends will be seen as failures who got what was coming to them.

This of course creates the inherently toxic idea that those who still fall victim to the "bad" old age did something wrong and it was their own fault instead of being a victim of circumstance. They didn't play enough tennis or do enough hang gliding or go biking in Italy. They got what was coming to them. If my mother ends up at 90 putting a tea kettle in the freezer or smashing her car into a playground full of kids because she hit the accelerator instead of the brake, they'll say "Oh, your mom did it wrong. She walked two miles a day, but she didn't run a marathon like her sister did. Not good enough."

I suppose my grandfather who was a physics professor that ended up getting Alzheimer's anyway could be blamed for not being mentally active enough, but that's neither here nor there. We may still do our best to stay /fit/ and end up losing in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 04:28:21 2015 No.2630634 My grandfather was a doctor who never gave a thought to retirement. He finally hung up his stethoscope at 91 and died only three months later.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 06:08:08 2015 No.2630724 >>2630520 >Physical ailments are a manifestation of an emotional discord within.... Emotional discord like believing some crazy cult shit?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 22 14:30:40 2015 No.2631424 >>2630634 I don't think that's allowed in the UK. Once you hit retirement age they make you retire here.

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:07:35 2015 No.2632819

My grandfather is 80 and he retired 20 years ago (so, at 60). He was going to sell off the family home and move into a condo since he didn't really need it anymore and assumed he'd have trouble maintaining it as he got older. In the end, he decided to keep the house because it had a huge backyard. The place looks like a goddamn farm and he's always out there working on something. Swears that it keeps him alive and vital unlike his friends who retired and did nothing but watch TV, so they ended up going downhill in a hurry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:09:37 2015 No.2632821 It's a lack of purpose in their lives that does it. Many people's live revolve around work. You take that away from them and depression kicks in, no sense of meaning.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:11:19 2015 No.2632826 >>2632819 Just simple activity does one wonders. We have one car prep guy at Enterprise that comes in two days of the week. He's 75 and fit and active.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:13:08 2015 No.2632828 it's funny how people spend decades working with the hope that one day when they're 65, they get the freedom to do nothing. they end up bored out of their minds and fall apart physically.

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:16:16 2015 No.2632830

I've seen worse.

>used to work in a furniture store
>we had one salesman who was about 60
>nicest guy on the planet, had a fantastic wife too
>he was getting ready to retire, had just bought a cabin-like house in the woods somewhere and they planned to spend their remaining days there
>within about two months of retiring, his wife's car was hit by a semi and she died
>it just devastated him and caused him to put off his retirement plans

That was eight years ago so I have no idea what the guy is up to now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:19:00 2015 No.2632841 >>2630497 It's true. Studies have shown that cops and other emergency workers tend to die very quickly after retiring.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:20:00 2015 No.2632842 >>2628339 I am 35 and I feel that the opposite is true reallly, I feel that I am better at games in general than I was when I was younger. My hands are more prone to cramping though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:20:22 2015 No.2632845 I think it's worse for lonely people like >>2630494. They have no family, no life, nothing but their job. And when they don't have that anymore, the only thing getting them out of bed in the morning is gone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:21:22 2015 No.2632847 Recently a guy at my company retired on a Friday and died over the weekend. o_O

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:23:21 2015 No.2632849 >>2629038 why the hell would you need sort of fast reflexes you need for a fighter to play tribes?

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:32:19 2015 No.2632860

WARNING - GRAPHIC:

>back 10 years ago
>after high school graduation, I got a job at a rock quarry
>supervisor came up and asked me to torch a tractor tooth out of a rock crusher
>now, this guy was a known junkie who only got the job because he knew someone
>I'm a dumb kid who just got hired and have no fucking clue how to do the task he's asking
>the manager chews him out for trying to make me do someone else's job
>supervisor walks off in a huff
>manager then shows me how to do this thing
>turns out the supervisor didn't properly secure all the shafts
>the manager, who had been here 40 years and was weeks from retirement got stuck in a rock crusher after he torched the tooth out
>his legs got crushed and 3/4ths of his face ripped off
>I took off my shirt and wrapped it around his face to hold it in place
>then called 911

Never heard from him personally again. Was sure he'd died. I know he barely made it to the hospital and he looks nothing like he did before the accident. He spent two weeks in a coma and I had to remove a bunch of 12 pound boulders that he was trapped under. That's some shit I never ever want to see again.

The guy would have been retiring at the end of the month.

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 02:36:10 2015 No.2632871

The placed I worked at two years ago hired an older gent who got bored of retirement and wanted to resume working, partially because he'd had alcohol problems and found that he tended to drink more often when he had nothing to do. This was a fairly physical job and he struggled with some things, but we found tasks he could handle. We hated the work for the most part, but he loved it and looked forward to accomplishing something each day.

A year later, I left that job. A friend told me they'd laid off a bunch of people for cost-cutting reasons including the old dude. He died in about three months. I almost cried.

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 03:31:38 2015 No.2632947

They've done studies of hunter gatherer tribes in the Amazon and Africa which found that they rarely suffer many of the common ailments associated with aging like loss of hearing and eyesight acuity, atherosclerosis, and arthritis. One famous study of an African tribe in the 1960s found that at the age of 70, most had comparable hearing to a 20 year old and the loss of frequency range with age was quite minimal.

It's been theorized that the hunter gatherers ate a wide variety of animal and plant products while people in modern industrialized society only eat a relatively small variety mostly bred for ease of mass production and shipping, in addition to being blasted with chemicals and growth hormones. Meaning that most of us are starved of vital nutrients.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 03:55:49 2015 No.2632969 >>2632947 Sure "they" have

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 04:06:19 2015 No.2632990 >>2632969 >>2632947 Why did you idiots bump this stupid thread that stopped being about video games 40 posts ago? Just let the shit die.

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 04:13:14 2015 No.2632998

>be unhealthy as fuck during 18-28 years of age
>play video games all day long and eat junk food
>basically waste all my best years inside sitting in front of my pc
>turn 28, start losing weight
>healthier foods, more vegetables, fruits, fish, meat etc, less fast food, leave soda completely, start jogging and lifting

I'm 30 now, and I haven't been in better shape since my early teenage years. It has also affected my gaming skills and stamina, I can actually play a game for longer periods of time than few years ago. I also seem to have better concenctration and understanding of all the game mechanics, it's especially useful when I'm learning a new strategy game. Still kinda bummed I basically wasted all my best years inside doing nothing productive, but at least it was fun.

Anonymous Sun Aug 23 05:37:32 2015 No.2633090

>>2632947
I'm not sure how valid those studies are. It's true that African countries have lower rates of heart disease, dementia, arthritis, hearing loss, and whatnot...BUT you could just as easily argue that this is due to them having an average life expectancy in the 60s. You're not going to have many 85 year old dementia patients falling and breaking their hip when you die at 50 of tuberculosis.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 05:40:43 2015 No.2633093 >>2633090 Kind of true. Africa is the only part of the world where infectious diseases still cause the majority of deaths.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 05:52:50 2015 No.2633105 File: 5 KB, 153x179, 56899.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Played Douk 3D all day erry day when I was a kid and had no problems at all. I recently replayed Douk and the expansions and I had to savescum through the whole game. Feels bad man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 05:55:17 2015 No.2633109 >>2632998 I recently lost lots of weight and now I'm feeling very energetic and my depression has gone milder. I actually feel like playing more vidya nowadays thanks to my better physical and mental health.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 23 08:57:12 2015 No.2633139 Nah, if anything I just got more impatient. That being said, been knocking out a few games each weekend and it's really quite enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 00:00:58 2015 No.2635145 >>2628339 i got better at games games that gave me so much shit way back in the day are nothing to me now, and I mean I was away from them my adult life until recently and got back into my old games and just blew through them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 18:52:48 2015 No.2636768 >>2628647 Your reflexes won't get better from non-use. Lazy people who don't exercise deteriorate physically.

Anonymous Mon Aug 24 19:12:17 2015 No.2636804

If I did get slower, it's because I don't play as much now as I did when I was a kid.

I play more intelligently though. As a kid I'd just brute force through. Nowadays I play legit and put effort into what I'm playing. As a kid there were games I could not complete, and as an adult I could complete it within a few hours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 19:14:31 2015 No.2636808 I am better at games now (30) than I was at 10. I don't get scared by challenging situations like I did as a kid. When I was a kid, I'd always try to figure out some way to cheap shot a hard section.

Anonymous Mon Aug 24 19:16:13 2015 No.2636809

>>2633093
Infectious diseases increased exponentially after humans left their natural habitat in the savanna and started living in closely knit housing - rats, germs, sanitation problems caused this. There was none of this in man's natural habitat. There is no evidence that man ever had a low life expectation before he left Africa.

Other primates sometimes succumb to infectious disease in the wild. However it's recently been argued this could in fact be due to man bringing infectious diseases with him, like how white man did when coming into contact with America for the first time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 19:29:47 2015 No.2636839 lot better. But just not as easily amused. Been trying to get back into games lately.

Anonymous Mon Aug 24 19:35:12 2015 No.2636853

>>2628667
How exactly is Starcraft a "silly children's game"?

I want you to explain in even just a basic way how this is the case.

Instead of posting "funny" images of people implying academic studies are bullshit, you should recognize it's you yourself who are full of shit to your tits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:04:57 2015 No.2636904 File: 365 KB, 640x480, vlcsnap-2015-05-25-15h05m12s124.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >There are other 30 yr olds (+)on 4chan I cannot express my satisfaction and relief. I would date and/or buy a drink for you all

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:20:51 2015 No.2636930 >>2636904 Been here since 2004. Though this is the only board I still browse, moved on from the rest of the site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:30:13 2015 No.2636943 >>2636930 >>2636904 Hey you, samefag. Stop necrobumping this useless thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:31:14 2015 No.2636945 >>2636943 You know, there's no point to saging on a board this slow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:32:23 2015 No.2636948 >>2636943 How is it useless?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:33:23 2015 No.2636949 >>2636948 75% of this thread doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with video games. Let it go, dawg.

Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:34:18 2015 No.2636950

Yes and no.
I'm 24 and I am noticeably better at figuring out what's going on and how to overcome obstacles quicker.
But my attention span is a lot shorter now. When I was younger I could play the same game for hours on end and be fine. Now I can be bored of a game I love in 20 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:34:25 2015 No.2636951 >>2636949 Oh. Well fuck me if I could be bothered to read through the whole mess anyway. I just saw it on Page 1 and posted at the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:35:29 2015 No.2636954 This was my fault. I posted >>2636768 and ended up necro bumping the thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:36:29 2015 No.2636957 >>2636954 shakes head You're a bad, bad boy who should be spanked until your cheeks are redder than a certain reindeer's nose at Christmas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 20:40:13 2015 No.2636965 >>2636950 pretty much. I can remember staying up all night playing a game. Now it's about an hour max.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 21:30:39 2015 No.2637039 File: 278 KB, 1280x720, vlcsnap-2015-07-07-20h39m22s225.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2636943 >bitching about bumping a thread by bumping Bitch that wasnt even me Not to start more tension

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 24 21:31:18 2015 No.2637040 26 here, better than ever

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:03:45 2015 No.2638259

Chronic diseases and pain are not necessarily inevitable with the advancing years. If you resign yourself to the idea of a miserable old age of course, you usually do end up that way. I come from a family of farmers and ranchers who usually still work and do labor around the farm at 80-90 because they didn't give up on themselves.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:06:20 2015 No.2638268

My great uncle was an 86 year old diabetic on kidney dialysis. One day he fell over and took an entire hour to realize what had happened. Needless to say, he'd seen better days. Well, he called the family to his side and announced that he was done and he was officially quitting dialysis. Didn't feel any point to continuing and decided to pack it in.

And so he did. He died peacefully in his sleep five days later.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:24:04 2015 No.2638302 >>2636930 I've been here since around the same time, but I'm active on about half the boards still. /b/ and /pol/ are the one places I never go anymore. /b/ moves so fast now it doesn't even make sense to my old brain anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:32:35 2015 No.2638316 >>2638302 >>2636930 >>2636904 >still having this conversation with yourself Sad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:35:49 2015 No.2638320 >>2638316 Wtf. Why the nigger dick would I do that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:39:32 2015 No.2638325 >>2638320 The hell would I know. You expect me to psychoanalyze some anonymous neckbeard on an anime-themed video game board?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:39:58 2015 No.2638326 Not to ride on the circlejerk but I thought I was falling off for years until I actually did research and realized the input delay that comes with flatscreen TVs Got a CRT and im as good as ever boiz

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:47:13 2015 No.2638336 >>2638316 >still having this conversation with yourself You do realize 4chan is constantly changing, right? I don't even really know what this is supposed to mean.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:49:43 2015 No.2638340 >>2638320 >alleged crusty oldfag talking like a 13 year old And they said with age came maturity...

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:51:19 2015 No.2638345

>>2638340
Ah, just shut the fuck up before I hunt you down and waste you. I'll have you know that I know how to kill someone and make sure their remains are never found. Just dump it down an abandoned mineshaft with a bag of quicklime and the buzzards won't even find you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 11:52:30 2015 No.2638347 >>2638345 I only wish I knew what drugs this guy was on. Whatever it is, cut the dosage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 12:18:08 2015 No.2638398 Opposite. I used to be a pussy with games and gave up too quick with too hard of a difficulty. 27 now. Games like Binding of Isaac and Hotline Miami made me grow a pair of balls and actually start seeking high difficulty games like Dark Souls series

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:42:26 2015 No.2638553

My mom bit the farm at only 70 a few months ago. She'd had some surgery a couple years ago, but I was shocked that this happened since she had been saying she hadn't felt so good in years. Just passed away in her sleep like a light going out. I wished it didn't have to be like this, but she said don't feel bad Anon, it even says in the Bible that we're not supposed to live longer than 70 unless we're very exceptional. Why did she have to say that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:43:32 2015 No.2638558 >>2638553 I know what you mean. Lost a favourite aunt to lung cancer (she was 65). That was five years ago but I still miss her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:46:31 2015 No.2638561 If Republicans had their way, SS/Medicare would all be privatized and mandatory euthanasia instituted for all of us on our 70th birthdays.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:46:49 2015 No.2638562 35 here. better at video games now than I was as a child.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:49:07 2015 No.2638567 >>2638561 FYI, I used to live in Hyde Park, Chicago. That area is filled with limousine liberals, who say that they are advocates for the poor, but want nothing to do with the black ghettos in the city.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:50:29 2015 No.2638569 >>2638561 You may not like me saying this, but it happens to be true, that those systems were created with the assumption that we'd never have more than 5% of our population over the age of 65.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:52:00 2015 No.2638572

>>2638561
To debate Medicare as is and see no real limits to extended care that only prolongs life, and does not really improve quality of life, is an empty argument and only self serving to a population over 60 that isn’t accepting the boundaries of life.

Everything involved in health care is finite, costs included.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:57:30 2015 No.2638578

>>2638561
>>2638569
Forget the morality considerations. Just look at it from a dollars and cents POV. An 80 year old with cancer doesn't have a huge chance of recovery or responding well to treatment. Besides, he's (in all likelihood) retired and not putting money back into the system.

The socialist countries that libtards love so much did ration and limit the health care that senior citizens could get. This was true of the Soviet Union and many others - if you were over a certain age, you'd be put at the bottom of the list for things like heart surgery, kidney dialysis, etc.

There is certainly nothing wrong with younger workers chipping in payroll taxes to make life longer and better for older persons. What grinds in America is that younger working people have, to use the old Yiddish term, bupkes for health insurance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:57:43 2015 No.2638579 >>2630348 >all those unnatural deaths what the fuck dude. how are you planning to croak? skydiving accident?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:58:29 2015 No.2638580 >>2638326 Similar to this. Thought my skills were fading when I was playing like a retard in Mario 64. Got a new low latency LCD and framemeister. Feel like a pro again.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:59:43 2015 No.2638581

>>2630463
>It's the health screenings, I tells you. They keep looking obsessively until finding something wrong with you that they can prescribe a pill. Or two. Or four. Or eight
only in murka, where healthcare has been privatised nationally top kek.
in actual developed countries where health care is 'free' they're always trying to save money on this shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 13:59:58 2015 No.2638582 Contemporary Western society has this huge, overwhelming phobia of death to the point where many of us just can't accept that we're gonna go at some point. It's why we give heart bypasses to 90 year old dementia patients.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:00:58 2015 No.2638585 >>2638581 That was covered in >>2638578.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:03:30 2015 No.2638589

Unfortunately, the steady drumbeat of propaganda from some sources has given most Americans as poor an image of how the economies of other countries work as of how their health care systems work. The fog surrounding both is a significant impediment to arriving at health care and economic decisions that really work.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:04:30 2015 No.2638592

>>2638589
Aside from higher taxes on the wealthy, which I support, what would those economic decisions that really work be? I’m genuinely interested in your opinion.

Regarding health care, Japan spends only about 8% of GDP and enjoys the highest life expectancy in the world but its economy has been in a funk for two decades and their public debt to GDP ratio is the highest in the development world by far. They don’t seem to have any answers either.

Some of the European countries you referenced have a much higher percentage of their population that is 65 and older now than the US does. While that drives up costs for pensions and healthcare, it also mitigates the unemployment rate from what it might be if the population was younger on average.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:09:18 2015 No.2638605 >>2638592 japan eats fish three meals a day. europe probably eats pretty good. Not sure what the average american eats. But probably....

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:17:43 2015 No.2638632

>>2638592
>Aside from higher taxes on the wealthy
Stopping the wars and confiscating 100% of the wealth of the private wealth in this country would not even fix the fiscal cliff we’re headed for. Research that for a while and then attempt to make an intelligent comment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:19:05 2015 No.2638637 >>2638632 Not 100%, just 90%. It worked during the Eisenhower years, didn't it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:19:58 2015 No.2638638 Can we bring this back to retro video games, please?

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:20:39 2015 No.2638639

>>2638637
Mmmmmmno it didn't. Nominal tax rates are not the same as effective tax rates. The 50s tax rates included enormous provisions for deductions and allowed for tax shelters. Most of these were eliminated in the Reagan tax reform. The actual effective rates were not greater than today’s and if you look at tax revenue as a % of GDP it was around 18%, about the same as it has always been. This was also at a time before Medicare, Medicaid and the explosion in Social Security spending so that the Federal budget was less than $100 billion compared to over $3 trillion today. Increasing taxes will raise more revenue in the short-term but it will not come near to balancing today’s budget and it will not solve the long term entitlements problem.

Also FWIW, the Eisenhower economy was actually pretty anemic with real GDP growth averaging just 1% a year in addition to there being three recessions (53-54, 58, and 60).

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:21:39 2015 No.2638642

>>2638639
Cut the military budget by 90%. Take the cap off Social Security taxes, as well as benefits. Make corporate tax rates and investment income tax rates equal to payroll tax rates. Make income tax (payroll, investment and corporate) heavily progressive. Maybe not as progressive as Ike’s but much more so than today. Nationalize all health care, eliminate insurance companies and seize their assets. Ration the health care along standards of need, not standards of greed we currently have. Problem solved.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:22:40 2015 No.2638646

>>2638642
Seriously, you need to go read up on Clement Atlee, and the vast nationalization of multiple sectors of the UK economy following WWII, along with the progressive taxation they imposed. Those policies were a key part in the decline of the UK's economy.

As to your comment about making corporate tax rates equal to payroll tax rates. Do you mean to lower them to the current payroll tax rate of 12.4%? Or did you mean to say raise them? Current US corporate tax rates are one of the highest in the world.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:23:48 2015 No.2638649 This is Within-the-Beltway, Gilded-Age resurgent, Big Lie. We do have choices: stop fight unnecessary and unfunded wars, tax the rich and corporations sky-high, reinvest in our infrastructure, and take care of our young, infirm, and elderly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:25:44 2015 No.2638652 >>2638578 I'm only going to live to my early 60s anyway and then an hero. Who the fuck wants to be old anyway. Your eyes don't work, your ears don't work, your private parts don't work, etc, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:26:45 2015 No.2638658 >>2638649 I'm sure by "rich" you mean "Anyone who's white and makes over $30,000 a year".

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:28:53 2015 No.2638664 >>2638658 In LiberalWorld, all races, religions, and sexual orientations are equal except for straight white Christian males. It's just like Animal Farm - "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:29:53 2015 No.2638667 >>2638664 Oh boo hoo hoo how terribly those straight white Christian men are oppressed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:31:12 2015 No.2638670 File: 22 KB, 294x350, this triggers the Rethuglican.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2638667 SWCM are a dying demographic anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:32:20 2015 No.2638676 >>2638670 And yet, that fag couple still wouldn't have those kids if a man and a woman hadn't fucked.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:33:20 2015 No.2638680

>>2638670
>>2638676
I don't have many prejudices, but I do find it hard to reconcile with gay couples having adoption rights. The whole idea seems wrong to me.

I guess you could argue the same about single mothers, but then life is not meant to be perfect.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:34:21 2015 No.2638682

>>2638680
The only case against homosexual parenting is homophobia. Homophobic views cloud the persons views towards what is best for the children.

For a change, try focusing on what is the best for children rather than the sexuality of parents/potential parents.

There are many same sex people very capable of giving children the very best start in life ... while there are same sex people not suited to parenting. Same as the heterosexual community.

Rather than stereotyping potential parents by their sexuality, it should be one by one, or couple by couple, without their sexuality helping or hindering.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:35:58 2015 No.2638686

>>2638680
I agree completely.

Quick anecdote - a former work colleague (an intelligent and highly-qualified woman too I might add) who's lesbian partner underwent artificial insemination and conceived twin boys whilst they were a couple .. is currently in a very awful predicament.

Her partner and her have now split up .. and her partner has taken the twin toddlers interstate to live with a new lesbian partner. The move was made without her approval/consent. She is unable to see the children who she regards her own (even though biologically they are not hers).

As if that isn't enough .. the biological father is now on the scene and is involved in the bitter feuding and costly family law proceedings.

Bottom line? It's a very ugly, messy, confused, and costly affair. It's bad enough when two parents are fighting for custody .. can you imagine what it must be like for THREE parents fighting for custody of 2 toddlers who have no idea what the fuck is going on and who is who. There are three solicitors and three barristers involved now .. so the legal fraternity is doing well out of this tragedy.

The colleague in question is now a former colleague because she has since suffered a nervous breakdown on a/c of all the stress and is no longer able to work. She is presently on Centrelink benefits as a result and her career is on hold .. possibly for ever.

Food for thought.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:36:56 2015 No.2638690 How did you faggots turn this into a political discussion? Can a mod just delete this fucking thread already?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:36:59 2015 No.2638691 I would put it another way and ask: what is the case for it? What >>2638682 and others just can't see is that, regardless of the worthiness otherwise of the homosexual parent, there is one big strike against them. The question of role model.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:38:39 2015 No.2638698

>>2638691
Now see, this is a homophobic view implying same-sex people can not obtain a loving environment for a child to feel safe, loved and have the potential to blossom into a full-functioning adult on all levels. Your post reveals your ignorance and bigotry considering some heterosexuals are not very good role models. It comes down to case by case, not just a big homophobic stereotyping.

If some posters were serious about what was in the best for children, they would of started a thread on child rearing rather than just a full on attack against all gay parents.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:39:40 2015 No.2638703

The question of role model:

Heterosexual couple with 3 kids. Mother on pension and father on the dole. kids range between 14 and 5. Fat slag sits at home all day doing nothing except drinking grog and watching all the soaps. The kids live in a filthy house and are under-fed and most of the time look like they just got out of bed. The eldest daughter is so rough and wild that she would probably give you a blow job for $2. The 2 little boys look like rats and are skittish. The old man is a crack addict.

Fantastic heterosexual role models.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:40:40 2015 No.2638705

look, the donut punchers can't have kids.
nature states that, not me.
If they can't have kids, they ain't meant to have them

about 2-4 % of population are homo.
Few of that want kids.
What %age are we spending millions on to grant them something nature says "NO" to ?????

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:41:40 2015 No.2638708 I have a few gay friends with kids. They are without exception loving parents who dote on their children. As an aside, are you against IVF for infertile hetero couples?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:42:40 2015 No.2638712 >>2638705 Will you be applying the same to any person who wishes to conceive a child through unnatural causes?

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:44:25 2015 No.2638714

>>2638703
There's just such a couple in my neighborhood who deserved to be sterilized at birth. Their kids deserve better. A lot better.

My point was that heterosexual families are not the only beacon for role models for happy family units, and that there is good and bad in all society units.

Shouldn’t the emphasis be placed on who can provide a child with a happy secure loving home and environment regardless of sexuality?

Even the most long-term loving relationships break up sometimes and the children of these families are left living in homes where there is only a male or female parent.

If children are raised in single male and female heterosexual homes, then what’s the difference with them being raise in same sex homes?

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:45:25 2015 No.2638715

>>2638705
When you get right down to it...'nature' says we aren't meant to do lots of things...

Nature states we aren't supposed to travel faster than 44.72km/h (the fastest human running speed) but we all travel at speeds over 100 km'h, in cars
Nature states we aren't supposed to fly, but we fly in planes..

Nature states we aren't supposed to live past 70...but we do, due to medical knowledge and surgery...

Nature says we aren't supposed to do lots of things, but our scientific skills allow us to....so why should reproduction be any different.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:46:25 2015 No.2638719

I personally think it depends entirely on the individuals, and everyone else is entitled to their opinions, but they should stay out of other people personal business and private decision making.

Nature is a fantastic teacher, but it also indicates that only 3% of the species on this planet are monogamous. Being human beings we sometimes have to look outside the box.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:48:03 2015 No.2638726

I dare say Elton John's kid is going to have a far richer life than long term unemployed outer suburbs Bob and Wendy's kids. :)
Being gay or straight makes no difference it's the love of the parents that counts.
There are highly educated gays and lesbians with good careers that are financially secure that have a far greater prospect of bringing up loved, well rounded and successful children than the typical intergenerational unemployed white trash in the outer suburbs that pump out kids by the dozen for the welfare payments.
I say lets ban the long term unemployed from breeding before we get stuck into the gay and lesbian community

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:49:04 2015 No.2638730 >>2638726 >I dare say Elton John's kid is going to have a far richer life I feel bad for him. This is a case of celebrities treating children as a fashion accessory rather than a human being.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:50:05 2015 No.2638732 I will never, ever, ever support homosexual people being allowed to be parents of children. It is an intolerable situation that's only going to end disastrously for the kid.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:51:07 2015 No.2638741

>>2638732
So what happens when a heterosexual family man suddenly turns gay? Does mean he should no longer be allowed to be a parent to his children? What happens when a heterosexual female turns gay? Does that mean she should be no longer allowed to be a parent to her children?

What exactly is your problem with gay people parenting children?

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:51:54 2015 No.2638747

>>2638732
>have married gay friends
>They are the biggest misogynists ever
>End up adopting a child
>They don't care if he's straight or gay, but he's going to grow up knowing that women are inferior.

Kids either going to be crushing pussy, an absolute homo, or an Elliott Rodger, but probably also a rapist instead of just a little faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:52:07 2015 No.2638749 >>2638726 Is there any argument FOR gay marriage/breeding/adoption that doesn't rely on a comparison between the best of gays and the worst of heterosexuals? It'd be a lot more convincing if we compared apples with apples.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:53:08 2015 No.2638753

Unless a gay/lesbian couple is trying to adopt/kidnap one of your kids I doubt it will ever effect anyone here, unless one of those kids becomes a surgeon and saves your life :)
Where as the intergenerational unemployed kids will probabaly end up breaking into your house flogging the stuff you have worked hard for and using your car for a toilet/drug den.

I have no problem with any loving, hard working parents gay or straight bringing up kids but I would sterilise everyone living 20kms outside of all our capital cities unless of course they can produce evidence of a high income, good housing and a tertiary education

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:54:08 2015 No.2638756 >>2638741 >So what happens when a heterosexual family man suddenly turns gay? Err, don't the donut punchers always claim they were _born_ that way?

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:55:16 2015 No.2638758

>>2638749
WHY does there need to be???
The couple who can provide the 'best' life for the child should be the ONLY criteria...Which is better in your mind....a hetero couple, made up of an alcoholic mother and pedophile father, OR a gay couple made up of 2 loving, non addicted, non pedophilic parents (male OR female)???

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:56:16 2015 No.2638761 >>2638756 It depends on the age, societal position and family background....Lots of people realize, later in life, that they're gay and decide to move to a gay lifestyle...

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:57:16 2015 No.2638764 I am trying to show that there are wealthy, poor, good, bad, loving, resentful, selfish, giving, uneducated, educated, ignorant, involved etc parents out there and their sexuality has no influence whatsoever on who they are as a person or a parent.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:58:17 2015 No.2638768

>>2638758
Ahaaa but gays are 'just like you and I' aren't they?
So if that's the case, the gay couple are just as likely to be alcoholic pedophiles aren't they?

Let's face it, the 'queue' for adoption is waaaaay longer than the children available for adoption.

Of course, if they can make their own child, how could I object?

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:59:17 2015 No.2638772

>>2638768

That's my point...Judge the prospective parents by their behavior, not their sexuality...

If the parents are alcoholic,druggies or pedophiles, refuse them, irrespective of the parents sexual preferences...Why is it 'better' to allow drunk, or druggie or pedophile parents to adopt...JUST because they're heterosexual, when there are gay parents willing to adopt, who aren't alcoholics, druggies or pedophiles?????.....Do you see my point?? it's better to allow an upstanding, 'clean' couple to adopt, no matter their sexuality than it is to put the children at risk...

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 14:59:53 2015 No.2638774 File: 15 KB, 256x192, segayes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Retro video games

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:00:19 2015 No.2638776

Actually you will find advertising agencies "profiling" of long term LGBT couples show them to be on average higher achieving, highly educated, higher incomes, better traveled, happier with their lives and much more involved in community issues than the average straight couple. So in that sense they are a little different.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:01:46 2015 No.2638785 >>2638776 You'd also find that they're more prone to STDs, substance abuse, suicide, mental illness, and domestic violence. Not that we're allowed to discuss it...

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:02:47 2015 No.2638791

It is true to say that established loving gay/lesbian couples are less likely to be victims of spouse abuse, alcohol abuse, drug abuse, suicide and venereal diseases.
In fact straight men in rural areas have much higher stats when it comes to all of the above.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:02:57 2015 No.2638792 File: 3.63 MB, 295x222, fuck off ricky.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2638774

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:03:12 2015 No.2638794 Where is the best place to eat AIDS out of a gay man's asshole /vr/ - Retro Games? This topic and more while the mod is AWOL

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:04:24 2015 No.2638803

>>2638791
Gay and Lesbian domestic violence
Data on domestic violence in gay and lesbian relationships in Australia is
almost non-existent. McQuarrie (1995, p. 39) states, ‘although no research
has ever been done, guestimates suggest that up to 25% of same-sex
relationships could be affected.’ Others have also commented that
prevalence rates are not dissimilar to those in heterosexual relationships.
Papers from the First National Conference on Violence and Abuse within
Lesbian Relationships (Irwin, 1997) highlighted that it has been difficult to talk
about violence within relationships within the lesbian community, let alone the
broader community, and that there is little documented evidence available.
The NSW Police Service Out of the Blue report (Thompson, 1995) provided
details of the experiences of violence of gay men and lesbian through a
survey administered at Mardi Gras Fair Day in 1994:
Australian Domestic and Family Violence Clearinghouse Topic Paper:
Australian Statistics on Domestic Violence
13
• 5% of lesbians and 5% of gay men who responded to the survey,
stated they had experienced domestic violence within the previous 12
months.
• Barriers to reporting incidents to the police were highlighted with many
reporting that there was little they thought the police could do.
• Results also indicated that lesbians expressed higher fear levels about
sexual assault and domestic violence than gay men and that they were
twice as fearful of experiencing domestic violence than the general
female population.
http://www.austdvclearinghouse.unsw.edu.au/PDFfiles/Statistics_final.pdf

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:05:57 2015 No.2638805

(I'm Aussie, so posting studies from my country)

School's Out: Homosexuality, Bullying and Suicide

Heidi Gilchrist, Glennys Howarth and Gerard Sullivan

University of Sydney

Suicide is now the leading cause of death by injury in Australia ahead of car accidents and homicide, and it is the largest single cause of death in Australian men. In recent years, several reports have linked homosexual orientation to youth suicide. Studies estimate nearly 30 percent of gay youths attempt suicide (Nicholas & Howard, 1998), but the complex relationship between the two has not been studied. This paper, therefore, focuses on the cultural context of suicide and asks questions about how it comes to be constructed as an option for young people experiencing harassment due to sexual orientation. The data are based primarily on interviewee responses to a scenario that describes the experiences of Chris, a young person, who confides in a teacher that s/he is considering suicide due to the marginalization s/he feels as a result of a gay identity. This paper explores the views of young people, teachers, youth counselors, parents and community leaders about the role of school communities and key actors within them in the development of this situation and their role in overcoming it. The paper concludes with an investigation of implications for pastoral care of gay youths and professional practice in schools.

http://www.aare.edu.au/02pap/gil02454.htm

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:06:43 2015 No.2638806 you bunch of geriatrics. well play for liver pills.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:06:57 2015 No.2638809

(this one's American)

Alcohol and drug use among homosexual men and women: epidemiology and population characteristics.
McKirnan DJ, Peterson PL.

University of Illinois, Department of Psychology, Chicago 60680.

Abstract
Homosexual men and women have been described as at high risk for alcohol and drug abuse, due to psychosocial variables such as stress levels or the cultural importance of bar settings. However, there are few actual data in this regard. This paper presents the findings of a large (n = 3400) survey of a homosexual population regarding population characteristics and patterns of alcohol and drug use. Psychosocial variables that may account for substance use patterns both generally and in this population are discussed in an accompanying paper. Substantially higher proportions of the homosexual sample used alcohol, marijuana, or cocaine than was the case in the general population. Contrary to other reports, this was not accompanied by higher rates of heavy use, although homosexuals did show higher rates of alcohol problems. In the general population women consume less drugs and alcohol than do men, and substance use substantially declines with age. Neither of these patterns were found for the homosexual sample, thus creating overall higher rates of substance abuse. This may reflect differences between homosexuals and the general population in their adherence to sex-role stereotypes and age-related social role changes, as well as culturally specific stressors and vulnerability to substance use.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2589133

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:08:07 2015 No.2638813

It all points to older gays and lesbians in stable loving relationships as being as good a parents as any straight couple.
What are the comparisons to men in rural areas where suicide, violence and drug and alcochol abuse are in almost epidemic proportions.

I don't usually pay much attention to stuff plucked from the internet because quite honestly two people could go back and forth for years posting opposing uni papers plucked from almost anywhere.
University papers are usually the worse way to prove a point..I dont know anyone who has a tertiary education who would wipe their bums with a paper that came out of a uni.
Unless of course it was by an internationally respected expert in the particular field, otherwise its just a lecturer or a student dribbling on looking for brownie points Smiley
I am always happy to consider studies done by respected, experienced; experts in the field.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:09:07 2015 No.2638815 If you're going to make claims about how superior gays are, I don't need to look too hard to 'prove' otherwise. They might be just as good PEOPLE, but as for being just as good PARENTS...well, one could debate whether they are really parents at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:10:07 2015 No.2638819 >>2638785 >>2638768 They don't!!!!! there's a rigorous screening process.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:11:09 2015 No.2638827 >>2638819 Yes THAT is exactly my point...as long as the SAME screening process is used, it doesn't (or shouldn't) matter about sexual preferences.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:12:09 2015 No.2638829

>>2638827
Well if it came down to two 'equally qualified' couples (whatever that means) one hetero, one homo, you'd hafta go hetero every time, for the child's sake. And since the queue is so full with caring, stable heterosexual couples anyway, it'd be a very rare occurrence indeed for the homos to win out.

Of course, if history tells us anything, they'd just sue, claiming discrimination until they get their little trophy.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:14:43 2015 No.2638835

>>2638726
Whoawhoawhoa. Hold on there. I support the idea of gay adoption, but I still don't like what Elton John and his partner did. Not because they're gay, but because they're too damn old. They decided to adopt a kid in their 60s when there's a good chance they may not live to see him graduate high school. If they did it 20 years earlier, then ok.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:15:53 2015 No.2638839

Homosexual parents? To be a parent requires the heterosexual 'congress of the antelope'. Homosexuals can't be parents unless they have first performed it. The homosexual 'congress of the (your image of degradation here)' is no substitute. It don't work, parenting-wise.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:17:28 2015 No.2638847

LOL.

http://www.threedonia.com/archives/4749

A Massachusetts lesbian was arrested for domestic violence for trying to impregnate her wife with her brother’s semen.

Jennifer A. Lighten, 33, told police that Stephanie Lighten, her wife, was “all liquored up” when she returned to their Lincoln Street apartment, where the defendant then allegedly tried to use a syringe to inseminate her, according to a police report.

Jennifer told investigating officers that Stephanie “has been talking about trying to impregnate (her) for some time,” police said.

According to a report by Pittsfield Police Officer Kipp D. Steinman: “Jennifer said that Stephanie had a ‘turkey baster and her brother’s semen in a sealed container.’ Jennifer said she told Stephanie that she didn’t want to get pregnant.” The device was actually a large syringe with a catheter tip, police said, and it was still in its original package when officers confiscated the item.

That’s allegedly when Stephanie threw Jennifer on the couch, grabbed at her clothes and threatened to impregnate her, police said.

Aren’t a lot of wives liquored up when they’re impregnated? Wow! lesbian marriage is just the SAME!

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:18:33 2015 No.2638850

I don't agree with homosexual parents.
The kids are going to see two daddies in bed together
& wonder where their mother is & what their daddies are doing together.
Imagine the kids getting mercilessly bullied at school when they
are naive enough to tell the other kids.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:19:33 2015 No.2638854

>>2638850
Like you, I don't agree at all with same sex parents.

I think it is immoral and cruel and doesn't sit well with me at all.

Children can be subject to intolerable cruelty and putting them in an unnatural situation with abnormal makeup of families is not the best start in life.

It's something that just doesn't sit with me.
I even donated money in California to the movement to prevent same sex couples being allowed this kind of thing.

I just think we need to take a stand at times to prevent a complete breakdown in our moral social fabric.

I am fine with same-sex couples, just keep it to yourself, don't broadcast the fact in public and I am fine with it.
I am not fine with putting these relationships on the same level as normal ones.

It's a personal choice of mine. Not religion or party political related, simply what I believe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:20:52 2015 No.2638858 There is no reason why same sex couples shouldn't be allowed to raise children. Evidence suggests that kids raised by same sex parents are just as happy and well off as kids raised by straight parents.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:23:14 2015 No.2638865 >>2638858 There are perfectly valid reasons. See >>2638850

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:24:14 2015 No.2638870

That pretty well sums up my position too. Call me old fashioned, and maybe it is due to a lack of familiarity with that kind of domestic situation, but the concept doesn't sit well with me at all. Like you, I don't have any objection to homosexual couples, but I draw the line at children being involved.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:25:14 2015 No.2638873

Surely if you really put the interests of the children first, you would seek actual evidence about what is the best domestic situation for them rather than confusing your own gut feeling for what is right. So far the evidence points to homo couples being no worse than heterosexual couples.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:26:36 2015 No.2638875

I guess this entire argument has been the case of broad generalities versus specific cases. When it comes to adoption or legal custody, a wide range of factors would almost certainly have to be considered on a specific case basis (not on the basis of statistics, broad generalities or gut feeling).

When it comes to the natural children of parents who have gone on to a homosexual lifestyle, it becomes a question of what's the alternative anyway?

I am only saying that I have a gut feel about it, and that it may be no more than a prejudice. When it come down to actual legislation, a lot of injustices have been perpetrated as a result of blanket laws applied to families. We always need to consider individual case details.

So when it comes down to adoption or anything in that line, I am not advocating gut feeling as a determining factor. I think that all aspects of the case should be considered in great detail with the welfare of the children in mind.

In my view, with all other factors being equal, if it came down to a choice of custody between heterosexual parents or homosexual parents, the heterosexual parents would win hands down, because it's a much better environment from the viewpoint of role models and social stability for the child. Again there are obvious exceptions. The case of the lesbian relationship that Lisa brought up and the dysfunctional heterosexual parents that another poster brought up are extreme cases that should be rejected for adoption, and obviously alternative custodial arrangements made for the children - with urgency. The kids need to be taken out of that harmful environment. These are no brainers.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:28:13 2015 No.2638881

>>2638749
I think that's the valid point.

A lot of people tend to compare the WORST heterosexual parents with the BEST POSSIBLE homosexual parents.

In some ways that's like comparing your quad core PC to an Apple II and proclaiming that the Apple II isn't as powerful of a computer.

The normal, everyday scenario should be what is best for a child.
That's a mother and father in a stable family unit. Like I had.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:29:30 2015 No.2638885

At the end of the day, I haven't seen any rational arguments to why homosexual couples can't adopt or marry, apart from the religious argument, or the appeal to what is normal or natural. If we only did what was natural or normal, we would still be in caves and die at 40 of bubonic plague.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:30:32 2015 No.2638889 >>2628339 I think it's more that I now as an adult can recognise tedious game design.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:30:32 2015 No.2638890 >>2638885 Killing your own children isn't normal, homosexuals raising children normal. Take a hint from nature? Or too arrogant?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:31:34 2015 No.2638891 File: 64 KB, 468x611, elton-john-david-furnish_001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here are two happy parents.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:32:57 2015 No.2638896

>>2638891
He tells WENN, "It's fantastic!I love the smell of nappies. It's been the most wonderful thing that's probably ever happened to me after meeting David. Surprisingly it's been very relaxing because this little soul that you're feeding and you're changing and you're bathing and you're telling bedtime stories to is a blank canvas and all it needs is love and nurturing and it's just the most wonderful feeling."

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:33:23 2015 No.2638901 >>2638854 what the fuck does that have to do with anything post about video games you faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:34:40 2015 No.2638904 >>2638896 It's time for the $1,000,000 question: What are they gonna feed that baby with seeing as to how no mommy=no boobs=no milk. And no, the cream produced by certain other appendages isn't an appropriate substitute.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:35:40 2015 No.2638906 >>2638904 And neither would it work for ALL the women who use formula from birth then....

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:36:41 2015 No.2638908 >>2638906 I didn't see him mention formula either, do you? Nope, ALL a child needs is love and nurturing...Elton views on child rearing seem to be a lot like his supporters views on everything - all airy fairy ideals, but no substance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:37:42 2015 No.2638910 >>2638908 Umm YOU mentioned it...formula feeding is just as useful as breast milk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:38:43 2015 No.2638916 >>2638910 Formula is no substitute for the mother's natural milk. You wouldn't feed a calf with human milk, would you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:40:15 2015 No.2638917 All the same, plenty of mothers do use formula to feed their baby. If it's good enough for them, it's good enough for Elton and his partner, no?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:41:29 2015 No.2638919 well...just so long as he DOES feed them formula...or at least something other than love.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:42:29 2015 No.2638925 So what exactly is the difference between Angelina Jolie feeding HER adopted child on formula, and Elton John, feeding HIS adopted child on formula????

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:44:20 2015 No.2638934 >>2638919 >or at least something other than love. When you're talking donut punchers, this is a pretty bad idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:45:22 2015 No.2638939 >>2638925 the difference is Angelina Jolie feeds her children, not like Elton who says, and I repeat ALL it needs is love and nurturing. It might seem obvious to you and I, but who know what the decades of drug abuse have done to his noggin?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:46:32 2015 No.2638946 >>2638939 Hoq does Angelina 'feed' her children, when she hasn't been pregnant??? Angelina uses exactly the same 'method' to feed her kids, as Elton John does......formula...

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:47:32 2015 No.2638949 >>2638910 Yes, it is not REALLY as good - but there are many reasons why women don't breast feed and 'selfishness' is not as high on the list as you might assume...

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:47:50 2015 No.2638951 what are you faggots even talking about? stfu tbh

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:48:33 2015 No.2638954 >>2638946 No no Elton was quite clear ALL it needs is love and nurturing. Show me where he mentions food, clothing, shelter... All the decades of huffing coke must have destroyed a piece of his brain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:49:18 2015 No.2638956 >>2638910 WHO recommends breast feeding for at least 18 months. 5-10 IQ points for breast milk Better immune response, especially from colostrum. Formula is a fucking crock of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:49:34 2015 No.2638957 It doesn't work....Any woman who adopts a child must use the very same method of feeding that a man who adopts a child uses....

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:51:32 2015 No.2638960

>>2638956
Technically children are supposed to be nursed until about 5-6, which is when the adult teeth start growing in. You may be a bit surprised, but it's actually true. When the adult teeth grow in, the shape of the child's jaw changes as well so they can no longer easily grab onto a breast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:52:32 2015 No.2638965 >>2638957 LOL....Unless they don't feed it anything but love and nurturing...after all isn't that ALL a child needs? Well, that's what elton reckons anyhoo...

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:53:45 2015 No.2638970

A respectable black couple from Derby, England, called Mr. and Mrs. Johns, wanted to foster a child aged between 5 and 10. In the 1990s, they had already successfully fostered 15 such children and now, after a break, wanted to resume.

However, there was a stumbling block. No one ever suggested that they were other than decent and compassionate people; but, being evangelical Christians, they answered questions put to them by a social worker about homosexuality in a way that was deemed unacceptable. They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a homosexual child because of his homosexuality; they said that they did not think that homosexuality was morally neutral, believing it rather to be against the laws of God; and they admitted quite openly that they would not change their minds about this. On the other hand, they said that they would treat an individual homosexual with kindness: no doubt an attitude thought condescending.

I’ve known saner lunatic asylums than this. Surely any sensible person, religious or otherwise, would simply say ‘The Johns are very good people, they have an excellent record of fostering young children who need fostering: finita la commedia.’

But no: in the modern world everything must be codified, and everyone must conform in the name of diversity. Let the heavens fall, so long as the boxes have been ticked

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:54:46 2015 No.2638972

>>2638970
The Derby social services and Mr. and Mrs. Johns went to court to seek advance clarification of the legal position should the Johns be denied the opportunity to foster children on the grounds that they did not fulfill their obligation to be non-discriminatory towards homosexuals and homosexuality.

Contrary to impressions given in many reports in the press, the court declined to rule; it said that the case was purely hypothetical, Mrs. and Mrs. Johns had not yet been denied the right to foster, and the court did not consider merely hypothetical cases. It therefore did not rule either that Mr. and Mrs. Johns had, or had not, the right to foster.

However, it did say that Christian views were entitled to no special protection in England (notwithstanding the fact that there is, at least for now, an established church). The law stated that the principle of diversity, under which various, though presumably not quite all, moral viewpoints were entitled to equal legal consideration and protection, was legally paramount, and therefore Christians were not illegally discriminated against if or when they were denied the opportunity to foster because they refused to teach their child that homosexuality was not morally inferior to heterosexuality. In such a case they would not be discriminated against religiously (religious discrimination being itself illegal), but correctly prevented from discriminating illegally against homosexuals. In other words, you can have any opinion you like, so long as it is ours.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:55:52 2015 No.2638974 >>2638970 >They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully a homosexual child because of his homosexuality These are what you'd call unfit parents, not Elton John and his partner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:56:55 2015 No.2638978 >>2638974 Back in the 60s-70s, donut punchers wanted just to be tolerated. Now you have to embrace them or else. Kids adopted by inverts - every day they must feel like a bastard on fathers' day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:57:58 2015 No.2638981 >>2638972 Let's rephrase this, shall we? They did not know what they would do if their hypothetical foster child started to bully an African-American child because of his skin color.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:58:59 2015 No.2638986

I personally dislike homosexuals. I don't care what they do, as long as they keep away from me. Don't care if they marry whatever, but when it comes to children, I petty any child subjected to such sociological experimentation.

I am afraid I believe in the evolutionary model for raising children- a man and a woman.

Gay rights all the way, except I don't want to be exposed to gay sex acts, and I think the rights of children override the rights of gays.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 15:59:59 2015 No.2638989 >>2638986 That's interesting since in most primitive societies the 'model' was children raised by the whole tribe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:01:00 2015 No.2638991 >>2638989 Shit, now you are angling for NOT just gay couples but the whole smacking Village People adopting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:02:18 2015 No.2638993 >>2638989 That is true, but in most primitive societies, there weren't these bogus notions of homosexuality being an equal or desirable condition either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:02:29 2015 No.2638995 >>2628373 lol you have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:03:18 2015 No.2638998

>>2638991
Yeah, why not???

Only three members of the Village People were actually gay after all..

And back when I was a kid, the whole street ('tribe') looked after us kiddies......if we fell over and hurt ourselves, the people from the closest house did the first aid and comfort thing...including food and drinks...

Back then, a crying child attracted every adult within hearing, to help... sadly, that doesn't happen now...
But even then, it was still a case of one in ten people were homosexual, and it made NO difference...Homosexuals were just as quick to help injured children, as anyone else...

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:04:27 2015 No.2639004

>>2638998
Actually the village idea is good, but I think the man and woman still bore primary responsibility for the children...

In my opinion homosexuality is a form of personality disorder. I also don't believe 10% of males are gay, that is just propaganda to make them seem more common, more like 3-5%, similar to the rate of deranged personality disorders and mental illness... Hardly something that should be encouraged... I mean hey if you want to not discriminate against homosexuals, and celebrate their sexuality, then you should celebrate pedophilia, because its just as legitimate a sexual orientation, and if the person isn't molesting children, then they should morally be accepted.

I have known two gays in my life, and they were both complete wackos, confirming that homosexuals tend to be more mentally unstable than heterosexuals, on average.

I don't hate homosexuals as people, I hate the advocacy of their sexual orientation. They have far enough bloody rights, bloody appalling the idea of fags having kids, as if the kids aren't at a much higher chance of being molested by them, and the homos will try and "convert" them by deliberately sexualizing the children with their gayness. Gays = hypersexual lunatics.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:05:13 2015 No.2639005 [DELETED]

>>2638981
Is there anything in the bible saying black people are inferior, though?
>>2638986
What if the man/woman is just like everyone else except they happen to have a preference in partners? Would you refuse their friendship or something, after discovering that? Taking in account that they never attempted anything with you.
>>2638995
Not him but the only two games my little brother has bothered playing for more than a few hours is minecraft and CoD. He has dozens of PS3 and PS4 games and the only things he does is playing the online mode of CoD the whole day. I don't see much reason to believe children and teens who game aren't doing the samee with league of legends and the like, and the ones who vary a lot, specially with other generations, are exceptions.

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:05:28 2015 No.2639006

>>2639004
I think you might need to re-write that as "I have known openly gay people....'' etc...

I've known considerable more than 2 gay people in MY life and most of them have been fairly well adjusted and 'normal' (allowing for the differences in sexuality)....And I've yet to find any reliable data in any study of child molesters to indicate that homosexuals are more likely to molest children.....quite the opposite in fact, most paedophiles are heterosexual, and something more than 80% are married or in long-term heterosexual relationships...
That is actually the problem...most child sexual abuse is committed by a family member (parent, grandparent, uncle/aunt) or step-parent (step-father, step-mother)...the adoption risk of abuse is also from heterosexual foster parents...

Anonymous Tue Aug 25 16:08:27 2015 No.2639016

>>2638986
>I personally dislike homosexuals

How did this subject even come up on /vr/?

Anyway, as one of these evil homosexuals you dislike so much, I can definitely assure you that children have a grasp on their sexual orientation from a very young age. I was a gay kid just like you were a straight kid. It's not like there was some sudden epiphany in my teenage years that led me to believe I was gay, I just always knew. It was not a process of self-discovery. I was never attracted to the opposite sex to any degree, and that was that. I tried to convince myself that the whole gay thing was just a phase that kids go through and eventually grow out of. I even tried to pray with church pastors, and begged God to "heal" me of my homosexuality.

There's nothing inherently destructive about children being subjected to the existence of homosexuality. My parents, my church congregation and the media in general was constantly trying to push the notion of heterosexuality on me, and that did nothing to shift my orientation in the opposite direction. Sexual orientation is just not something that a person can change. It doesn't matter how you're raised or what kind of environment you're raised in. I had straight parents and I was consistently led to believe that homosexuality is some kind of abomination, but I was always gay and am still very much gay at this moment.

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