/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2621784]

Remember when games were good?

What happened?

[Anonymous No.2621787]

>God of War
>good
>Halo
>good

Get this piece of shit list out of here.

[Anonymous No.2621792]

There are still good games being released, and you can always return and play good old games. You only shouldn't wait for a EA or Ubisoft AAA title to be the game which will restore your faith in vidya because it won't happen.

[Anonymous No.2621794]

>>2621787

You know what I mean though, most of those games are classics ... Nowadays games are bad. Did money making corrupt the quality of manufacturing?

[Anonymous No.2621796]

ask >>>/v/

[Anonymous No.2621802]

>>2621792

I played Smash Bros for Wii U the other day for the first time. Tempted to grab a Wii U for it... Was really surprised. Probably the most fun new game I've played in a while ... Kinda ironic all the nostalgic characters are in it

[Anonymous No.2621804]

>>2621794
-Platformers died and generic fps took over.

-Add all the DLC

-Release broken fix later mentality.

-pre order marketing out the ass

-drm

Also got these developers bitching nonstop about costs when a developer in the 90s was pay like $10-$20 just making a fucking cartridge before they could sell.

[Anonymous No.2621809]

Retro games were good, but not without their problems, like flagrant censorship and poor localization quality. At least be thankful the current generation doesn't have to deal with that shit quite as much, unless maybe they insist on owning a Wii U or 3DS exclusively.

Modern games do have their problems, but mostly in the form of too much linearity / hand-holding and emphasis on creating a cinematic experience. Not all modern developers have strayed from the original philosophy of video games, though.

[Anonymous No.2621832]

>700 titles for the NES
>implying the amount of titles which were actually good and/or memorable exceeds 100 at the very best
There was always shitty games.

[Anonymous No.2621834]

I dunno OP, why are certain decades overall stronger than others in film?

[Anonymous No.2621836]

>>2621832
There weren't millions of shit games made on the NES though.

[Anonymous No.2621843]

>>2621836

Cod isnt even bad though. Its average and overrated by most but no where near shit

[Anonymous No.2621845]

>>2621784
That's the plebbiest image I've ever seen. You can tell it was made by someone whose only ever had Nintendo systems.

[Anonymous No.2621848]

>>2621836
>6 out of 7 titles are either complete trash or utterly forgettable and valueless
Math is hard to you, isn't it?

There was always loads of shitty games compared to all good games.
Look at the Commodore 64, almost 10 000 titles, how many of those were copies of existing titles, how many of those were just terribly subpar, uninteresting, or atrocious?

There was always more shit than gems.

[Anonymous No.2621853]

>>2621784
Oh cool, a circlejerk thread

go away.

[Anonymous No.2621854]

Budgets got out of control. Games used to be made by small teams, so it wasn't the end of the world if it wasn't the hugest seller ever.

Now games cost millions upon millions, they have to be focus tested into the ground.

[Anonymous No.2621867]

They got popular, which means:

>The average intelligence of the core demographic dropped significantly and had to be catered to.

>The people making/distributing games were less and less frequently individuals who had an interest in the medium and more and more individuals who were simply looking for new ways to make money.

>The independent scene was flooded with activists who saw an opportunity to spread their political agenda.

Games aren't quite dead (there will always be new gems that pop up from time to time), but the golden age is well and truly behind us. That's just something you have to learn to live with. Video games weren't the first victim of this phenomenon and they won't be the last.

[Anonymous No.2621878]

>>2621867
Do you people actually believe this nonsense? Talk about a superiority complex, Christ.

[Anonymous No.2621882]

>>2621848
Math must be hard for you if you think there was a single bad top selling NES game, champ.
>>2621843
It's trash. Nothing about is good. Gameplay is choppy and poorly optimized even if you like it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2621887]

>>2621878

Yes, they do, because it's demonstrably true, easy to follow logic.

>Talk about a superiority complex, Christ.

Ironically, I'm willing to bet that this is your default stance because arbitrary anti-contrarianism is the new black.

[Anonymous No.2621906]

Yeah I remember when games were good.

They still are, too.

Feels good liking video games.

[Anonymous No.2621907]

I honestly miss the days without internet.
People used to form their own opinions instead of spouting other's. Youtube helped ruin discussion of videogames a lot.

Discussing videogames on the internet nowdays is basically a contest of who can memorize the most Youtuber opinions.

[Anonymous No.2621908]

>>2621878

I don't. That poster sounds like a typical /v/irgin. Just disregard.

[Anonymous No.2621910]

>>2621907
Oh God this. It's made 99% of video game discussion pointless. And I really don't understand why? Why just repeat what someone else says? Why? It's beyond me. Thankfully /vr/ seems to be mostly clear of this shit.

[Anonymous No.2621919]

>>2621878
You gave exactly zero rebuttal to any of three points. Thinking your side of an argument doesn't need an argument is the definition of a superiority complex.

[Anonymous No.2621923]

>>2621910
>Thankfully /vr/ seems to be mostly clear of this shit.

/vr/ is mostly teenagers and people in their early 20s whose first console was a PS2 or a Dreamcast, MAYBE a PS1 and a N64. The rest of their /vr/ knowledge comes from youtube.

[Anonymous No.2621926]

>>2621923
>teenagers and people in their early 20s
I don't know man. Depends what thread you go to.

[Anonymous No.2621941]

>>2621923
>/vr/ is mostly teenagers and people in their early 20s whose first console was a PS2 or a Dreamcast, MAYBE a PS1 and a N64. The rest of their /vr/ knowledge comes from youtube.
I never got that immpression. There are some idiots obviously, but a lot of people talk about owning a Master System/NES/Genesis/SNES as their first console.

[Anonymous No.2621959]

>>2621923

I haven't really noticed a decrease in the age of the userbase. I'm 30 years old, so I grew up in the early NES / SMS era, and I owned a 2600 briefly. It seems like that's mostly what we discuss here.


I do have a preference for retro games, but I definitely don't agree with the points >>2621867 claims. My only problems with modern consoles are...

- The complexity of the hardware leads to so many inexplicable failures, like YLoD or what have you. I can at least service my older consoles, and emulation isn't out of the question.
- DRM everywhere. I guess that actually started with floppies, but now it's a pervasive aspect of everyday gaming.
- Too much focus on cinematics and QTEs, and discouraging the player from exploring and getting lost in the atmosphere.

I can live with checkpoints, at least. They're more of a convenience than a game breaker.

[Anonymous No.2621963]

>>2621804
Pretty much this, and the fact that it is now more a business than it is a craft, for a variety of good and bad reasons.

>>2621802
It and a few other games are pretty good on it, I'm tempted to pick up an xbox1 (I'm so sorry, /vr/troopers...), simply for the rare replay and kinda sorta the forza series, but most importantly, Killer Instinct, goddamn that game is great.

[Anonymous No.2621975]

>>2621923
>whose first console

There could be people older than you that played video games long before you did and they may have not even seen a console.

[Anonymous No.2621984]

>>2621882
>Math must be hard for you if you think there was a single bad top selling NES game, champ.
hahahaha

ahahaha

hahahahahahaha

tell us more mr. math genius

[Anonymous No.2621990]

>>2621984
Nice avgn opinion, kiddo. The game isn't bad. Maybe actually play it not watch some youtuber.

[Anonymous No.2621993]

>>2621784
They still are if you take your nostalgia goggles off.

[Anonymous No.2622004]

>>2621984
Fuck you, that game was decent.

Top-down parts were awful, rest was great.

[Anonymous No.2622012]

>>2621907
>>2621910
>>2621923
>ITT people who shit their pants in fury if someone happens to have the same opinion as someone with a youtube channel

[Anonymous No.2622013]

>>2621990
>avgn
how did i know that was coming? wanna defend hydlide next?

[Anonymous No.2622014]

>>2621990
>You just hate anal rape because of the Angry Rape Nerd, it's actually really good!

[Anonymous No.2622019]

>>2622013
>hydlide
I personally don't consider it very good. It's not a top selling game though.

[Anonymous No.2622021]

>>2622012
In fariness most Youtubers are so brain dead that if you agree with them on anything you're probably at least mildly retarded.

[Anonymous No.2622023]

>>2622014
Are you upset because I don't like one of your favorite youtubers?

[Anonymous No.2622026]

>>2622013
>hydlide
I've never seen AVGN because I'm not 12, but the original Hydlide is alright. Never played the SNES or Saturn versions.

[Anonymous No.2622027]

>>2622019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Entertainment_System_games

1 million in Japan :)

Not such a bad list overall, though

>>2622023
The analogy is probably lost on you because you actually like getting raped in the ass

[Anonymous No.2622030]

>remember when games were good
>he asks on a retro vidya board

[Anonymous No.2622034]

This entire board is about when games were good.

[Anonymous No.2622040]

>>2622023
But he isn't my favorite.

My argument is that just because he (or his character) doesn't like it, doesn't mean you have to be contrarian.
I legit see people here accusing James of having turned audiences against games they claim are great, which were actually reviled by the general populace as a terrible game before Youtube even existed.

Is it bad to thoughtlessly parrot someone else's opinion? Yes, of course, but what's worse is someone who is so hung up on that notion that they accuse others of doing it out of the blue.
People on here will bring up MUH E-CELEBS if someone happens to have even a remotely similar opinion to one, as if there is a finite number of opinions and you can't share one, and that you can only have the same opinion as someone if you worship them and kiss the ground they walk on.

[Anonymous No.2622041]

>>2622027
Wow the 55th top most sold game on that list is mediocre at best. You sure did blow my argument out of the water. Like damn kid.

[Anonymous No.2622042]

>>2622040
>But he isn't my favorite.
Stopped reading there,

Take your youtuber shit back to >>>/v/
Also this is an 18+ website.

[Anonymous No.2622048]

>>2622040

Not the guy you were arguing with and I get your point. But to be honest? chances are, if you see some retard on the internet having a shitty opinion, and that shitty opinion happens to be similar to that of some e-celeb, there's high chances he actually got his opinion from the e-celeb. There may be exceptions, but there's always exceptions to the rule, most of the time that isn't the case.

[Anonymous No.2622053]

>>2622048
So when someone says that Ghostbusters for the NES is legit a great game, this person is patrician and I'm underage for happening to agree with AVGN on most points about it?

[Anonymous No.2622059]

>>2622053
Arguing in absolutes is a sign of autism. Have you gone to a doctor to be tested?

[Anonymous No.2622067]

>>2622059
Hey, don't look at me, I'm not the one defending games renowned as terrible because some else said they were terrible (which I legit see on here on a common basis).

I just think it's inane and counterproductive to have a kneejerk reaction about e-celebs whether or not they have anything to do with a topic.

[Anonymous No.2622071]

>>2622067
Thinking youtuber shit has anyplace in video game discussion shows you're probably 14.

[Anonymous No.2622083]

>>2622071
But I am not bringing up anything with Youtube, you and people like you are.

[Anonymous No.2622089]

>>2622083
Post tree says otherwise.

Inb4 that wasn't me.

[Anonymous No.2622114]

>>2622089
You're right, that person is me, I also made your posts as well, in truth, you and me are the same person, we're the biggest samefag.

What a fucking riveting conversation we've had here, how much we've added to the board and how we've enriched our own minds, I'm glad we had this thread.

[Anonymous No.2623106]

>>2621784
For some reason game development takes a lot more time in recent years and so devs lose focus on what makes a game good.

Even nintendo who makes comparatively old-school games with little to no voice acting and simple graphics spend a fuck-ton of time developing games.

[Anonymous No.2623118]

>>2623106
>For some reason game development takes a lot more time in recent years

That's because nowadays you have to fill gigabytes of space.

[Anonymous No.2623126]

>>2623118
I don't see why though. If I'm not mistaken most 3DS games are like barely 1 gigabyte if they are at all. Of course if you're going to make a huge game with good high definition textures and such then of course it will take time, but why nintendo spends so much time making their games I dunno.

I'm saying this because I have a 3DS and wii u and I'm kinda starving for games here