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Anonymous Thu Aug 13 21:55:01 2015 No.2609538 [Reply] [Original]

These little guys are way better than the US NES, more sound channels with no mod, no self destructive lock in mechanism, much smaller, all you need is the controller adapter for NES controllers and a converter and/or flashcart and you're all set but what are the prices like? Where's the best place to get one?

Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:07:46 2015 No.2609560
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I got a $20 famicom (plus $35 shipping or so) on ebay months ago. Similar on amazon a few weeks later. also, Got a famicom motherboard (no case, just the board) on yahoo auctions japan through a proxy for $8.28 plus $25 or so shipping.

They aren't too hard to get, honestly.

You do need to AV mod them or find a TV that you can tune to channel 95 (USA) on. If you AV mod it you have to deal with jailbars, similar to the top loading american NES. Lifting pin 21 really helps a lot if you do this.
Here's kirby on mine.

Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:10:04 2015 No.2609564
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Another pic, in game. You can see SLIGHT jailbars in the blue background (or at least you can if I'm not imagining things).

It is far worse if you don't lift pin 21 when doing the AV mod.

Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:12:15 2015 No.2609569
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Also pic of famicom with extra long controller cord connected to PVM-20L5

All things considered, I love my famicom. And I think the controllers look awesome :D

I'd go for one. They're cheaper than top loaders, at least. I've had both a top loader and a famicom, and of the two I'd go for the famicom.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:12:26 2015 No.2609570 >>2609560 I was gonna get an RGB mod either way, figure that's what everyone did these days.

Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:17:34 2015 No.2609583

>>2609570
Ah.
I'd kinda like an RGB mod but they're expensive for me ATM... and while I do have a PVM and would love RGB out for that quality, I'm satisfied with AV for now.

RGB would indeed eliminate jailbars AFAICT. I've done some testing and I think that the bars are caused by the RAM IC directly above the PPU's video out pin. the RGB mod replaces the PPU's video output and so I bet it'd do wonders.

I'd say if you can do the RGB mod then go for it!

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:19:30 2015 No.2609585 >>2609583 To clarify, I have a PVM but RGB is too expensive because the PVM was free. That's how that works.

Anonymous Thu Aug 13 22:24:27 2015 No.2609595

>>2609538
>>2609570
Note that you can get famicoms cheaper 'untested' - both my untested ones ended up working. One had a bit of a diagonal interference pattern even via composite - but that turned out to be a bad capacitor.

I've had the most luck with pre-'famicom family' FC's (the ones without the stylized "FF" on the faceplate). Those also predate the VCCI (kind of like the american FCC, federal communications commission). VCCI famicoms have been harder to mod and harder to remove the RF module from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 13 23:23:45 2015 No.2609683 >>2609583 jailbars are by a trace running near the video out trace. cut and lifting pin 21 to then wire it to composite amp is the most common way to cure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 13 23:32:53 2015 No.2609694 >>2609683 You can't have known this because I never made it clear, but I'm the same guy who posted the advice about lifting pin 21. I know. And the interference is from the RAM directly above pin 21 on the board, from what I was seeing when I tested.

Anonymous Thu Aug 13 23:38:27 2015 No.2609704

I was merely stating that the jailbars are still present on the famicom even after pin 21 is lifted (though a ton fainter), and even on the american front loading NES (fainter still). The bars are next to impossible to get rid of, but the NESRGB mod would do it by recreating the video signal outside of the PPU.

I'm gonna stick with my very slight jailbars and AV for now, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 13 23:51:05 2015 No.2609718 if you're feeling adventurous, you can also replace a lot of ceramic caps with multi layer ceramic caps http://vaot.mydns.jp/fc/noise5.htm

Anonymous Fri Aug 14 00:15:16 2015 No.2609748

>>2609718
I'd not seen this before.
I'd personally not do that - I'd do cheaper 1.5uf caps instead. Ceramics are still very reliable and good... but I will look into it. It's interesting.

Thanks! Looks like I have a new project when my Famicom board finally gets here from Japan [I shipped SAL... will never do that again. Was shipped initially on July 25 and is still in japan waiting to be flown over. >:( ]

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 00:17:09 2015 No.2609756 >>2609748 Well, wait a moment. Just remembered that ceramic caps only go up to about 1 uf. I guess I could do 1uf and 5 nf in parallel though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 00:33:24 2015 No.2609781 >>2609538 buy a AV Fami; even better than the original, and you don't need a controller adapter. /thread

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 00:37:11 2015 No.2609786 >>2609781 AV famicom needs an audio fix for expansion audio plays too loud. Fix is fairly easy still

Anonymous Fri Aug 14 13:41:25 2015 No.2610751

>>2609583
I'm having issues finding the controller adapter, figure I'll keep functionality of both an NES and a famicom available.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nintendo-Famicom-console-Japan-NTSC-NES-/191656273084?hash=item2c9f9aa4bc How's this?

>>2609781
No weird controller with a mic? No thanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 14:31:05 2015 No.2610852 >>2609538 I have one along with a FDS. I might get some games soon. Any suggestions?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 14:36:41 2015 No.2610867 >>2610852 That reminds me, is it true you can play all the FDS games with a Famicom Everdrive? Like, even without the actual disk system?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 14:45:06 2015 No.2610894 File: 34 KB, 480x300, fds3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2610867 That and the new FDSStick which is basically a drive emulator.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 14:50:03 2015 No.2610909 >>2610894 Either or?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 14:54:30 2015 No.2610926 >>2610867 yes, and on an NES too. you can get expanded audio out of an NES as well with a fami N8, pin adapter and some modding. that reminds me, anyone wanna trade my NES N8 for their FAMI N8?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 14:56:07 2015 No.2610928 >>2610926 Why mod? I'd rather just get the Famicom. And why bother with FDSStick when you can just use a flashcart and put every single game ever on it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 15:00:16 2015 No.2610937 >>2610928 Every flashcart i see usually cost a lot of money

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 15:01:14 2015 No.2610940 >>2610937 Yeah but the FDSStick won't play regular NES games, will it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 15:11:13 2015 No.2610962 >>2610940 you got a point. I guess i can save up and get a everdrive

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 14 15:17:50 2015 No.2610972 The controllers aren't replaceable but the mic for Zelda is worth it to me

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 01:44:17 2015 No.2611958 I own a Famicom. They aren't expensive to get and you can find a decent amount of games for cheap. I'm not the biggest Famicom fan myself though, otherwise I'd put in more money on a Famicom that supports AV or mod it or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 05:27:09 2015 No.2612172 >>2609781 it's much more expensive, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 07:20:10 2015 No.2612295 >>2612172 you get what you pay for.

Anonymous Sat Aug 15 08:07:49 2015 No.2612342

>>2610928
>Why mod? I'd rather just get the Famicom.
There's not much to mod... it's just a matter of using a 95K resistor to join a two traces. Or you could buy an ENIO board, which just plugs into the expansion port and can be used to enable the expansion audio. If you've already got a NES and want a Famicom just to avoid what is the simplest soldering project ever, you are a retard.

>>2610937
>FDSStick 33/40 + RAM Adapter 21+
>Everdrive N8 109/118
They're both "not cheap". But one does a lot more, holds a lot more games and doesn't require you to rapidly press a tiny button several times in a row to flip sides. FDSStick is more for "purists" (autism) that want that "genuine experience" without all the bullshit that comes from damaged floppies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 16:46:35 2015 No.2613354 >>2612342 I don't know how to solder, like at all. Also Famicom is smaller and doesn't need the new pin connector and pulley system not to mention the 2 times I want to use the mic on the controller I can.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 21:55:02 2015 No.2614186 >>2612342 You have a point about pressing the button there so i guess i can be smart and get a everdrive

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 22:11:08 2015 No.2614223 >>2613354 >plug in soldering iron >iron heats up >use iron to melt solder point >slide wire into solder before allowing to solidify >repeat you can't possibly be this stupid

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 22:12:46 2015 No.2614232 >>2614223 Not stupid, shaky hands.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 22:22:19 2015 No.2614259 >>2609538 >no self destructive lock in mechanism Funny because I still put pliers to it to mod it because I'm not blind and can appreciate better video.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 22:29:38 2015 No.2614267 >>2614223 >no mention of flux Don't lead the young'un astray now... OP, theses kits plus a cheap solder iron are good practice. Soldering is a useful skill for retro games. Plus, it's a cool thing to know how to do. http://amzn.com/B0002LUAL6

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 15 22:34:49 2015 No.2614274 >>2614267 don't really need flux for a quick soldering job like that

Anonymous Sat Aug 15 22:48:25 2015 No.2614303

>>2614274
Was this just a matter of adding a component to exiting solder joints? Yeah, I guess you wouldn't need flux after all. But I could see that being intimidating for someone new to soldering. The way solder behaves is weird if you're not used to it. It liquifies, flows, and solidifies in ways that will surprise you at first.

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