/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2602705]

I loved the first game, but this one is just a mess. Missing all of the charm of the first game, level design is repetitive and boring, boss fights are slow and take way too long, and generally the levels are based more on "tricks" than actual clever design. Why did so much go wrong so fast?

[Anonymous No.2602835]

2 has the best controls and pacing between levels. Sorry if you don't "get" it. Call me back when you 100% it for the first time though, I'm sure your opinions will have changed by then.

[Anonymous No.2602867]

>>2602705

The first game had way more repetitive and boring level design.

[Anonymous No.2602936]

2 was pretty good though, save for the jetpack stages. Those control like ass.
If you have this opinion about 2, I wonder what you'll think of 3. That one has quite a few gimmicky stages, and I'd understand you if it was that one you were complaining about.

[Anonymous No.2603361]

Crash 2 is essentially about domestic abuse

[Anonymous No.2603368]

Actually, OP, 2 is the best one.

[Anonymous No.2603369]

First game is a mess of poorly thought out game mechanics.

Second and third games are beset with terrible gimmick stages.

All of the games have an unresolved major problem with depth perception.

But what matters most of all is that despite the above, they are all fun

[Anonymous No.2603391]

>>2602705

I like crash bandicoot 2 but it's like if sonic had went from sonic 1 straight to sonic 3 if you get me

[Anonymous No.2603438]

>>2602835
No need to be mean about it, just looking for opinions.

>>2602867
>>2602936
I feel like 2 has an issue with having almost the *exact* stages just with different box placement. These sewers stages in particular are really starting to drag, a friend of mine who was watching me play on and off thought I was still on the same level they look so similar.

1 certainly wasn't perfect, but I never felt like it was a slog either. Even the rather difficult last few levels felt varied and interesting to me, what with the side scrolling one in the rain, the pitch black one where the masks are lights, etc

[Anonymous No.2603445]

Crash 3 was much better than the first two. A lot more interesting locations and it didn't have the same levels every time. It was nice to switch it up from time to time (even though admittedly the flying levels were awful).

[Anonymous No.2603579]

>>2602705
1&2 are pretty great. 3 kinda sucks.

[Anonymous No.2603878]

The 2nd one is my favourite by far, really comes into effect after playing through the first one.
>>2603445
I thought 3 would have been perfect if they didn't have all the, for lack of better words, special levels. Talking swimming, racing, flying and especially that jet ski business.

[Anonymous No.2603891]

>>2603361
>That speedrun
Too bad the guy got IP banned from Twitch.

[Anonymous No.2603897]

>>2602705
>generally the levels are based more on "tricks"
What does this even mean? What tricks?

[Anonymous No.2604232]

>>2603897
Like >>2603369 said, the levels are often based on gimmicks, where you basically have to learn a trick rather than using platforming skill.

[Anonymous No.2604267]

>>2604232
That's not true, there are only 2 jetpack levels and that's it.

[Anonymous No.2604276]

>>2603878
>>2604267
I honestly didn't all of those levels, neither did I mind the jetpack levels in 2. They were all pretty much fun on their own ways. Could've been a bit more optional yes, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.2604279]

I would like Crash 1 if it wasn't programmed with input delay built in.

[Anonymous No.2607279]

bump

[Anonymous No.2607316]

I think Crash Bandicoot 2 is the best in the series, all things considered.

Best gameplay and controls, best graphics, level design almost on par with Crash 1, but lacking a little in the color palette sometimes, best music, even got the best story.

The only criticism I've got for it is that it's too easy. They all are, platforming-wise. I seriously wish somebody could bring Crash Bandicoot's well paced and compact 3D platforming to its full potential.

[Anonymous No.2607319]

>>2603361

I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.2607336]

>>2607319
It's best you don't, it's a reference to a recent SGDQ speedrun of Crash. Runner was extremely socially award and made some bad jokes that people got assblasted over.

[Anonymous No.2607340]

>>2603445

More interesting locations? I thought at that point they were just throwing in the most generic locations from the real world into Crash's world.

You're never actually at the archipelago south-east of Australia, you're fucking around everywhere else. It's terribly inconsistent compared to Crash 1 and even Crash 2 and unoriginal.

Now, I admit they should have made more of an effort to give name and much more individuality to the places you go to in the first two games, because if there's one video game world that I would give anything to explore further, apart from Silent Hill - and maybe that utopian Rayman 1 world - it's the archipelago from the first two games.

And no, fuck Crash Twinsanity. Not only are the islands WAY too small, but they are also plagued with that try-hard Nickelodeon feel.

[Anonymous No.2607352]

Check out Crash Bandicoot: The Untold Story on Facebook (4chan is gay as shit, so I can't put up a link)

This will be an interesting read in the near future.

There is some drama about NaughtyDog and Universal surfacing at the moment.

Someone put up a scrapped animated intro for the original game as well.

[Anonymous No.2607370]

>>2603438

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some reused content in Crash 2 and 3. They had less than a year to make each game.

We have heard NaughtyDog's side of the story, about Universal being huge tyrants that tried to break them apart. I wonder what Universal's side of the story is.

Regardless, I will be biased against Universal, for fucking up my nearest and dearest piece of entertainment.

[Anonymous No.2607381]

>>2603897

Closest I can think of is that certain parts are easy enough for a skilled player to skip platforms at times.

[Anonymous No.2607395]

bump

[Anonymous No.2607405]

>>2602705

A lot of developers of the original game were not around for the sequels.

[Anonymous No.2607895]

>>2607352
I don't know what to think about all that. On one hand I like all the info, but he often comes off as a child when he rants about betrayal and all that. I dislike that he keeps advertising his game ideas, but I think that's just the "everyone's a shill" mentality I've developed.

[Anonymous No.2607935]

>>2602705
Crash 2 has way better pacing then 1.
It also makes replaying levels a shitload easier since they got rid of the stupid Mario-style overworld.

[Anonymous No.2607954]

>>2602705
Am I in bizarro /vr/ or some shit? Crash 2 is an improvment over the first game in every way. It's not like Spyro 2 which got too dumbed down with annoying side characters and goofy enemy designs etc. Crash 2 retains everything good about the first game and improves on it.

[Anonymous No.2608052]

>>2607954

Unlike Crash 3, which reduced "air acceleration" (slower to change direction in mid-air), threw out all that reminded of Crash Bandicoot's environment, put in a bunch of annoying vehicle levels and all the music from the bonus rounds and death routes are exactly the same now with instruments.

[Anonymous No.2608054]

[Anonymous No.2608062]

>>2608052
Crash only had one line in the entire trilogy.

And Sonic had already done the "animal dude with the 'tude" thing.

[Anonymous No.2608065]

>>2608062
Meant to reply to >>2608054

>>2608052
Fuck those underwater levels, seriously.

[Anonymous No.2608070]

Crash 1 is great, but is very simple. It's no better than a typical NES platformer.

Crash 2 is excellent, best level design and abilities

Crash 3 was my favourite as a kid, but looking back it's plagued by shitty minigame levels. It's why I can't enjoy the otherwise great GBA games.

[Anonymous No.2608089]

>>2608054

The color orange doesn't automatically put Crash in that category. The Simpsons already made a parody of Crash Bandicoot as well. If you knew either, you would realize how retarded this comparison is, unless you draw a conclusion from the advertisements only, which was just the 90's being the 90's, like with every other game.

[Anonymous No.2608090]

>>2607895

I just want the series to make a comeback. I'd go as far as wanting to work on it myself.

[Anonymous No.2608385]

>>2608070

Just want to point out that simple ≠ bad

[Anonymous No.2611263]

What do you think of thw recent uproar about Crash's real creator?

[Anonymous No.2611287]

>>2611263
Hm?

[Anonymous No.2611303]

>>2611287

Apparently a guy named Dave Siller's huge involvement in the first game has been buried and forgotten by NaughtDog and its affiliates.

[Anonymous No.2611310]

>>2611303
Oh yeah, that "Untold Story" thing. Never really got to look that up.

[Anonymous No.2611845]

>>2607336
Did he still end up completing it?

[Anonymous No.2611849]

Isn't it weird that there are more Crash games on Nintendo systems than on Playstation consoles?

So weird.

[Anonymous No.2612162]

>>2611849
>implying anybody played those

[Anonymous No.2612226]

>>2611849

And they are all either copypasta of the NaughtyDog games or complete garbage (maybe Titans on the DS is good, but it also literally had a fucking laugh track).

[Anonymous No.2612297]

Left it at 80% or 81% more than 10 years ago and when I came back I couldn't do shit.

[Anonymous No.2612352]

>>2612297

Were you just bad, or was the game unplayable to you? I really can't see the latter happening, as the controls for the 2nd game are very much timeless.

[Anonymous No.2612528]

>>2611845
No
He softlocked in purpose at the very end.

[Anonymous No.2612557]

>>2612528
Why would someone softlock on purpose?

[Anonymous No.2612559]

>>2612557
He was dropping spaghetti and looked like it was on something the whole run.

[Anonymous No.2612563]

>>2612559
Oh wow.