/vr/designs the perfect crpg

[Anonymous No.2589151]

Ok, I've played many many crpgs, but I want to pool our experience together to create the perfect crpg. You decide the setting, theme/genre, story/plot, quest types, skills, classes, perks, weapons, monsters, villains, factions, extent, and depth, etc, etc.

So what will it be, I wonder?

[Anonymous No.2589189]

I'll just give Chris Avellone a shit-ton of money and time to do whatever he wants to do.

[Anonymous No.2589243]

-Infinity Engine.
-Classic Black Isle (Chris Avellone and all).
-Dune universe.
-GURPS like system.
-On 5+ disks.
-In a big cardboard box.
-Art direction based on the concept art of Jodorowsky's Dune, with Mœbius, H.R. Giger and/or Syd Mead supplementing additional art.
-Score by Frank Klepacki and Mark Morgan.
-Two sided poster with cool looking artwork on one side, useful setting info on the other.
-Star Map made out of cloth.
-A manual the size of a phone book that includes but is not limited to: faction info, skills, excerpts from the Orange Catholic Bible and a Dune series timeline.
-A couple of feelies that physically represent in game items.

[Anonymous No.2589346]

>>2589243
I was never that into Dune. I like the box and all that, and Chris Avalon is a must. I was thinking more along the lines of original universe.

[Anonymous No.2589370]

>>2589346
Well, you asked "us" what we'd want. Or are you going for a collaborative thing? What would be the point? There's no common denominator with those things, we all have our little dream projects to share. And an "original universe" designed by comity almost always just guarantees fan fic tier circlejerk anyways.
That said, what do "you" want, what's your idea of the "perfect" crpg?

[Anonymous No.2589408]

>>2589370
Geeze. Calm down buddy. I didn't mean to insult you. I just don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I don't know any thing about dune, and therefore have no connection to your perfect game.

My perfect crpg is:

> Futuristic Chinese Mythology Steampunk
> Classic black isle
> DnD stats base
> Huge open world
> 3d environment, fully detailed and interactible
> 3rd person perspective
> Seamless environment. No loading breaks ever.
> Hunger, Fatigue, Disease, Carry weight, Rucksack system
> Everything is craftable, except artifacts and uniques.
> Jeremy Soule composing
> Gigantic durable box
> Models of some creatures / in game items
> Map written on Chinese Scrolls with classic tri-pen calligraphy
> In universe Bible, stating history and lore in the game
> ^ Book is hard-bound with detailed leather cover adorned with ornaments
> Manuel of all game mechanics size of a phone book
> Decorative scaled suit of armor from the game made from titanium

Hope you like mine.

[Anonymous No.2589415]

>>2589408
>Futuristic Steampunk
So, diselpunk?

[Anonymous No.2589418]

>>2589415
Kind of like Ancient Chinese Power Armor. Cars would be like that except they would be asian brands and models.

[Anonymous No.2589456]

I'm on the "give Avellone alot of money and see what he shits out" train too

But maybe we could use someone else for the gameplay, I don't know

[Anonymous No.2589540]

>>2589456
Obsidian Games in general has made very good gameplay systems in their games, most of which were rpgs.

[Anonymous No.2591287]

What are some unexplored settings in the genre?

I can think in western, prehistory, not many more.

Well thinking about it, Chrono Trigger covers prehistory and Live a Live covers both prehistory and western.

[Anonymous No.2591306]

>>2591287
One where immortals (If there are) aren't essentially kids throwing tantrums over shit that happened a thousand years ago, but just people who got tired ot conflict and try to keep things at least stable.
Hell, I'd really fucking love a immortal that wants to create political entropy ala Order Villain.

[Anonymous No.2591758]

Isn't that RPGCodex's top 50 CRPGs of all time?

[Anonymous No.2592491]

>>2591758
OP here. Yes. Yes it is.

[Anonymous No.2593778]

Art, animation, voice acting, prose, QA up to commercial standards; Multiple player characters; Fully designable/controllable auxiliary PCs; PCs can move independently and have discrete turns; Position matters in combat, tactical options like overwatch exist; True turn-based combat rather than tick-based and/or real time with pause; Random encounters; Procedurally-generated maps, enemies, and loot. Don't care about story

[Anonymous No.2593948]

>>2589243
>-Infinity Engine.
You've already ruined it.

[Anonymous No.2595289]

>>2593948
What's wrong with infinity engine?

[Anonymous No.2595332]

>>2595289
It's an ancient engine, man. And engine does not guarantee game quality. Just because so many good games are associated with it doesn't make it should be used to make something in 2015.

[Anonymous No.2595336]

>>2593948
This. RTwP is LCD dross.

[Anonymous No.2595337]

>>2591287
Dark Sun

[Anonymous No.2595386]

>>2591287
The American slave trade could make for a fantastic Gold Rush!-styled CRPG.

I'd also like to see one about waterbears

[Anonymous No.2595421]

>>2595332
>And engine does not guarantee game quality.
That's true, but it can be really cheap and versatile.

[Anonymous No.2595659]

OP here. I think this needs a little more structure. So post your game in the following way.

> Theme / Genre
> Developer
> Atribute system
> Graphics
> World
> Gameplay features
> Composer
> Package / Box
> Manuel / Documentation
> Knick knacks
> Misc.

I can't wait to see what you guys have in mind.

[Anonymous No.2595749]

>>2595659
>> Theme / Genre
The American slave trade
>> Developer
Tim Cain
>> Atribute system
Original, based on real-life assessments of slaves
>> Graphics
Low-end. Game should run smoothly on rigs from 2010
>> World
The Americas, the Atlantic Ocean + islands, Western Europe
>> Gameplay features
Plantation management, runaway hunts, training minigames
>> Composer
Quentin Tarantino
>> Package / Box
Deluxe edition: disc clamped between rusty iron fetters weighing 80 lbs
>> Manuel / Documentation
Included Manuel will narrate the game and provide tips when stuck
>> Knick knacks
Action figure in white suit and fancy hat
>> Misc.
Sequels will cover Civil War and Reconstruction

[Anonymous No.2595776]

>>2595749
Sequel after the others is the modern Russian Sex Trafficking of today.

[Anonymous No.2595858]

>>2595749
> Composer
>Quentin Tarantino
What

[Anonymous No.2596213]

>>2591287
I've always had this idea that a well made RPG based in the world of professional wrestling would be huge, I know Live-a-Live had their wrestling stuff, but I'm talking a full on in depth RPG about raising through the ranking to become a legend in the industry. You'd start off as a created scrubby gaijin who works as a janitor in the Wrestling dojo's of japan, but one day, you get a chance to prove yourself in the ring. There could be promo-cutting minigames and all sorts of shit.

I don't understand how we've gotten this far as a species without something like this yet to exist.

[Anonymous No.2596268]

>>2595659
Something like this
>>2596213

>> Theme / Genre
Wrestling / Being the Man, By Beating the Man
>> Developer
Yukes in conjunction with CD Project Red
>> Atribute system
Some hybrid of the classic
>STR, DEX, VIT, INT, WIS, CHA
with
>Grapple/Strike/Endurance/Agility/Speed/Submission, etc.
>> Graphics
Cartoony? Serious and realistic like Sports games? Not sure, it could go either way.
>> World
Ours, USA, Japan, Mexico, everywhere wrestling thrives.
>> Gameplay features
matches play out ala the WWE Wrestling games, but everything else plays out like an RPG, my first instinct is making it Persona' like in the context of time management/social links (stables, rivalries & alliances)/working on improving your character.
>> Composer
A combination of atmoshery classical tunes like a film score & all the awesomely bad buttrock of the actual american wrestling federations
>> Package / Box
Artist Want
>> Manuel / Documentation
comes with a condensed yet comprehensive history of the sport, and a pocket dictionary of insider terms & their definitions. possible fold-out map of the game world ala Legend of Zelda, so you don't get lost in all your backstage shenanigans like spying on your upcoming opponent or asking the general manager for a title shot
>> Knick knacks
Includes optional epilogue where your "retired" character comes back as n authority figure and potential federation owner/booker. Welcome to WrestlingSimRPG3000!
>> Misc.
There's an optional storyline where you go full on Benoit, the only downside is the save file gets erased after it ends.

[Anonymous No.2596751]

>>2589151
It feels both good and bad to have played all of those games. Good because they were good, bad because there is nothing new there and nothing new is quite like them.

[Anonymous No.2597417]

>>2596268
>a pocket dictionary of insider terms & their definitions
This things are cringy as fuck 90% of the time

[CHAD PIFFINGTON No.2597698]

>>2596268
Dude..... I always wanted to make a wrestling themed game. A la Gemfire/Romance based on wrestling. The game will have different timelines. The main storyline would take place in the early 80's-early 90's. Each territory would represent a different kingdom. So WWF would be like Cao Cao, and Tao Qian would be Smokey Mountain. Promoters would be the Kings,wrestlers would be the generals, and office/managers would be strategists. Someone make this.

[Anonymous No.2597726]

>>2595749
We can make movies about it, why not a video game?

[Anonymous No.2598071]

>>2589408
>3D
>3rd person
>Simulationist crap
>Minecraft shit
>Jeremy Soule
Ew

[Anonymous No.2598135]

>>2598071
Who's the qt?

[Anonymous No.2598192]

>>2598071
I hate minecraft. Also it's my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2598535]

Not familiar with this genre branding, whats the C for?

[Anonymous No.2598691]

>>2598535
Computer role playing game, usually to differentiate it from JRPGs.

[Anonymous No.2598702]

>>2598071
As much as I love games with an older isometric perspective it doesn't cut the mustard anymore. It sucks not being able to zoom in and look around.

[Anonymous No.2599437]

>>2598702
Why must graphics whores ruin every kind of gaming?

[Anonymous No.2599648]

rules: 1981 Basic D&D (and the matching Expert set too)

setting: generic medieval fantasy with orcs and elves and the typical real-world myths and legends thrown in

engine: that's rough, I can't think of anything ideal. But I like older stuff like Ultima and Wizardry style a lot more than 90's realtime 3D or even fancy-schmancy isometric. (90's stuff like Might & Magic III was alright though)

game style: something of a mix between hardcoded quests (basically very detailed and well-designed pre-gen dungeons of various types and size, even megadungeons) and sandbox. There could even be some random events that happen in the game world (I used to have a table for that when I DM'd real D&D games) and those create consequences and situations that your party can interact with. Well this is probably the most challenging aspect to get right, but also the most interesting...

pic sorta related, it's from AD&D but a campaign's gotta have some interesting personalities

[Anonymous No.2601778]

>>2599648
sounds fun as hack

[Anonymous No.2601947]

>>2589408
>DnD stats base
>3rd person perspective
>Hunger, Fatigue, Disease, Carry weight, Rucksack system
Dropped already

[Anonymous No.2601963]

Too many RPGs envision fantasy as boring, derivative Tolkienesque political struggles and military conquests. What about the more whimsical, fairy tale works of fantasy? Alice in Wonderland RPG, anyone? I don't care about kings being cunts to each other, I want to explore weird places, wrestle with werehippos and split tiny luminiscent fairies with my dick.

[Anonymous No.2601991]

>>2601963
>The Little Prince RPG
>There are no combat mechanics, what you level up are abilities that help you exploring like rock climbing
>You hunt the world for hidden texts and dialogs with god tier writing
I want

[Anonymous No.2601992]

>>2601963
Windham Classics redux? Yes please.

[Anonymous No.2602024]

>>2589189
And he'll still make a half-baked lousy game.

[Anonymous No.2602076]

>>2601947
Hardcore mode in Fallout NV was the best thing about that game, why don't you like actual roleplaying?

[Anonymous No.2602087]

>>2602076
To whom does one role-play in such an exercise?

[Anonymous No.2602117]

>>2602076
While I haven't played NV I have enough experience with each of those elements to determine how tedious and ultimately useless and counterproductive each one of those systems actually is.
>let's explore, Iolo!
>5 minutes later
>IM HUNGRY
>feed, 3 minutes later
>IM DYING FOOD PLS
>feed, 2 minutes later
>HELP AVATAR I AM HUNGAR
>uninstall.bat

[Anonymous No.2602135]

>>2602117
I dunno, in FNV it works for a post-apocalyptic world. It also makes sense ingame because you find food and water in the places you would expect to (fridges, cupboards, sinks, toilets, harvesting from animals, bodies of water, etc). I honestly don't think there's many /vr/ games that pulled it off well, though.

[Anonymous No.2602139]

>>2602117
Why uninstall, you could just turn off hardcore mode you big nerd

[Anonymous No.2602140]

>>2602139
What are you doing on this board?

[Anonymous No.2602143]

You're a beat cop in a major American city.. An EMP blast of unknown origin takes out all electronics and communications (no way to know the extent). Zero/minimal fantasy or sci fi elements. Scenarios are randomly generated and all interaction is through menus, similar to King of Dragon Pass.

[Anonymous No.2602153]

>>2602135
And yet it's all rendered moot by the game allowing savescumming. Hunger systems only work in roguelikes.

[Anonymous No.2604404]

>>2602153
You aren't forced to savescum. Not everyone plays games that way even if they aren't restricted by the system.

[Anonymous No.2604407]

>>2604404
That still leaves another issue open - the world isn't randomly generated. If you lose in one playthrough and refuse to keep saves, you'd already remember the positions of food, etc. from the last one anyway.

[Anonymous No.2604537]

>>2604407
And how is that bad? Even on a roguelike you'll find paterns in the world generation after some time. The player should be rewarded for exploring and having good memory.

[Anonymous No.2604602]

>>2604537
Which is the point where the food system starts becoming a pace killer and a liability. Maybe it'd still have some utility if the food could have some special effects to it.x