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You faggots will fight over anything

>> No.2579901

>>2579896
k

>> No.2579908
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2579908

>>2579896
What about I enjoy playing both and don't give a fuck about the respective rankings they get on a chinese cartoon image board?

>> No.2579920

4 is too long, slow and focus on semi-tricky platforming instead of constantly fighting enemies, Bloodlines feels more true to the NES classics and is more of an action game.

>> No.2579934

Bloodlines is far better

Rondo is still best overall

>> No.2580038

>>2579908

Oh god, this.

>> No.2580041

>>2579934
Rondo is best

>> No.2580057

Bloodlines is more challenging, IV is more relaxing.
Bloodlines if I want action, IV if I want atmos.

I'd rate both about equally after X68000/Chronicles and Rondo as the best Classicvanias.

>> No.2580069

I've always preferred The New Generation, IV seems slower, the music is inferior, the graphics are worse and the stage designs are largely boring. New Generation is the second best behind Rondo.

>> No.2580076

>>2580069
>tng
Get out, Eurocuck. Your points are all very valid, but I don't like the artstyle that Bloodlines brings with John looking like Johnny Bravo with a massive upper body while skipping leg day. Bloodlines really suffers from being on the Genesis, you know? That awful sound chip. Imagine those great tunes on the SNES.

>> No.2580078

>>2580069
>I've always preferred The New Generation
>playing the shitty yuropean censored version
:^)

>> No.2580080

>>2580076
The Mega Drive had a more distinct soundchip that gave the music character. Snes music is bland in comparison.
>>2580078
What else am I gonna play? Why would I import a Japanese or American Mega Drive just so I can have blood?

>> No.2580082 [DELETED] 

>>2580076
>le ebin "Genesis has bad sound compared to SNES xDDD" meme
Get out.

>> No.2580084

>>2580082
It's about as much of a meme as "Genesis games were generally faster than SNES games"

That is to say not at all.

>> No.2580085

>>2580080
>Why would I import a Japanese or American Mega Drive just so I can have blood?
If you aren't willing to do such a thing you should just accept you're a faggot and emulate it.

>> No.2580086

>>2580080
Ahh, Sega Kid. No, the Genesis's soundchip was literally a tinny Yamaha keyboard that could do piano samples well, but couldn't do the simplest sound effect without it ending up sounding like a fart. The SNES's chip, on the other hand, was so good people could make games that sounded just like the Genesis.

>> No.2580098

>>2580085
Why would I care? I didn't even know there was an edgy version until a few years ago, I didn't give a shit in the 90s.
>>2580086
>The SNES's chip, on the other hand, was so good people could make games that sounded just like the Genesis.
They should have, the Mega Drive sounds better.

>> No.2580106

>>2580098
Okay, give me the best sounding music track on the Genesis. I won't sound anywhere as good as anything David Wise composed for the SNES.

>> No.2580108

>>2580106
Earthworm Jim sounds better on Mega Drive.

>> No.2580115

>>2580108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu-DY6Phm_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cAtfPd4O6E

The only reason to ever prefer Earthworm Jim on Genesis over SNES is Intestinal Distress.

>> No.2580116

>>2580115
Nah, the whole game sounds better on Mega Drive. New Generation also sound better than IV.

>> No.2580118

>>2580115
Yeah. EWJ sounds like trash on the genesis.

If you want EWJ that sounds good with all the content, get the Sega CD or PC version.

>> No.2580119

>>2580116
Neither sound as good as Master of Monsters.
https://youtu.be/DxrllRDbrNc?t=14m45s

>> No.2580124

I enjoy them both about the same, with maybe IV having a bit of an edge.

I love Rondo too, but I don't like it as much as some people seem to. I think the original, III, and 68000 are better games. Rondo's level design is somewhat boring sometimes. Great bosses, though. Maybe the best in the series.

>> No.2580125

>>2580116
How does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9oy5G7yemg sound better than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKVmvVRXXCM?

An SNES launch title, back when no one knew quite what the SNES was capable of.

>> No.2580126

Genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kil4JNMUvgI

SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehPrT2YkHKk

SNES sounds like it is being held underwater and drowned.

I've had my SNES 10 times longer than my Genesis, but I can't stand tasteless nintendo fanboys

Guess what, the Playstation has a "better" soundchip than the SNES, and usually sounds worse. Because specs mean nothing in relation to how good music is.

>> No.2580132

>>2579896
>You faggots will fight over anything

You take that back before I make you!

>> No.2580135

>>2580126
And the SNES can do drums and doesn't sound tinny. The SNES sounds so much better there.

>> No.2580145
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2580145

You faggots will fight over anything.

>> No.2580147

>>2580135
SNES and Genesis "do" drums exactly the same way, you tard.

>> No.2580148

>>2580126
The very first PS1s had great soundships, but that has everything to do with composition and sampling. I'll concede that Bloodlines has a better soundtrack, but holy shit would it sound so much better on the SNES.

>> No.2580150

>>2579908
+9999, post of the year, all years

>> No.2580151

SCIV is way more polished and has way better music, but Bloodlines is just more fun imo.

>> No.2580153

>>2580147
But they have no impact. They sound like St. Anger. They sound like someone beating on a metal pan instead of, you know, a drum.

>> No.2580154

>>2580151
Maybe you should form your own opinion instead of just parroting what e-celebs are saying.

>> No.2580159

>>2580154

I personally prefer IV but don't find it odd that someone would prefer Bloodlines. I also don't think people who prefer Bloodlines had someone tell them to like it either.

Then again, I'm not a fucking moron, so there's that.

>> No.2580163

>>2580153
That particularly track isn't using snares, only the SNES one is. They aren't composed identically. The drums in that are the bases, you can clearly hear them in the background. They are sampled, exactly as in an SNES game. I don't know why I am wasting my time explaining this to you. Actually I do know, its because this also explains things to other posters.

These are sampled snares:
https://youtu.be/QXtDeny2p0Y?t=39

>> No.2580168

>>2580125
genesis versions sounds way spoopier and more castlevania

>> No.2580169

>>2579896
I know mine isn't the popular opinion but I never liked any of these games because of the look of them. It was like watching an 8-bit period infect my tv screen. Battletoads bitches.

>> No.2580175

>>2580169
simbly ebin :^)

>> No.2580176

>using CV4 in a stupid console war thread.

Jesus christ, you plebs. CV4 sounds fucking awful compared to Bloodlines. You want to champion the SNES, post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzrvBANyArs

That's CV music.

>> No.2580180

>>2580154
The fuck? That IS my own opinion from personal experience you douchenozzle. What "eceleb" are you referring to?

>> No.2580186

>>2580175
le right?

>> No.2580190

>>2580163
And those tinny keyboard synths still sound awful. I know it's nostalgia talking for you, so listen to some Donkey Kong music.

>> No.2580196

>>2580190
kek. I got Donkey Kong Country for Christmas in '94. I am extremely familiar with the series. You just have a tin ear and can't actually distinguish between good and bad sampling. The fact that you don't like FM synthesis is also the sign of awful taste.

>> No.2580204

>>2580196

lets see how long this thread survives after posting this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvvgYFio4Jk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3_qJfLwM48

>> No.2580208

>>2580196
>sound engineer at local record company highly regarded for the quality sound of its albums
>tin ear

I'm afraid I'm going to lose this argument. The Genesis sounds awful and has always sounded awful. As a matter of taste, the Game Boy sounds better than it.

>> No.2580209

>>2580204
the genesis version sucks big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11ajwlxiUyk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5g_dD5ri0

defend the stupid nintendo now.

>> No.2580210

>>2580204
American Genesis games are notoriously bad.

>> No.2580213

>>2580208
you have shit taste. You prefer faked orchestras over actual video game music. Yeah shit taste.

>> No.2580215

>>2580208
There's nothing wrong with the Game Boy or the way it sounds, though. Well, other than that you need headphones, because all portable systems have garbage speakers.

>> No.2580217

>>2580213
Now you just sound mad because the console your parents got you sounds like ass. Please tell me what actual video game music is.

>> No.2580220

>>2580208
>>2580208
>>sound engineer at local record company highly regarded for the quality sound of its albums
I'm sure everyone love how you mixed Rebecca Black's Friday. :^)

>> No.2580223

>>2580217
I am another guy, and it's anything made on a real synth you shitty

>> No.2580224

>>2580217
Because this crappy site doesn't have poster IDs, you can't tell, but that isn't the anon you've been arguing with (I am). Just throwing that out there because its a shitpost.

>> No.2580225

How can anyone possibly prefer the way the SNES sounds?

In the wrong hands, the Genesis sounds awful but when used by someone who knows what they're doing it's great. Whereas SNES music is consistently mediocre reverb.

Nothing on the SNES sounds as good as the music in Battle Mania Daiginjou or Sonic 2. Nothing.

>> No.2580228

>>2580225
Well, Donkey Kong Country 2 kind of does sound that good. Which is why you'll notice it constantly mentioned to exclusion of pretty much anything else.

>> No.2580230

>>2580208
Video game music isn't the shit you hear on the radio. I'm sure he did the best he could with that tin can he was recording through.

>> No.2580232

>>2580225

What Genesis music sounds as good as this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UkEsnjNRU

>> No.2580234

>posts a blatant /v/ level console war troll
>/vr/ falls for it

Of course.

Rondo > Bloodlines >>>> IV

>> No.2580236

>>2580232
Wat. Plok doesn't even sound that great. Something like Alien Soldier sounds far better.

>> No.2580239

>>2580209
well? can anybody defend this or not?

>> No.2580243

>>2580232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrF3WPi_7uI

Not only does it sound good but it blows the SNES out of the water.

Gens samples+synth > SNES samples only

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2580248

>>2579896
you make me sad OP

>> No.2580253

>>2580084

But it's a known fact the Genesis had a better CPU.

>> No.2580278

Genesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfeSggmk8JQ

SNES:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoRz3CMaLmU

>> No.2580290 [DELETED] 

>>2579908
>LOOK AT ME GUYS I'M TOO SCARED TO MAKE UP MY MIND SO I'M GONNA LOOK DOWN ON EVERYONE AREN'T I COOL?!

God I hate that South Park has raised a ton of stupid millennials who think hiding away from any conflict by just pretending to be neutral is actually a good idea. Swear our country is gonna go down the shitter once these guys get into office and try to solve any crisis by just going HURR BOTH YOU GUISE R DUMB XD!

>> No.2580292

Can you fat Americucks stop naming the Mega Drive after your Jewish fairy tales, please?

>> No.2580293

>>2579908
Look at this guy, No nuts for an opinion.

>> No.2580295

>>2580126
Post a link that isn't in 144p next time retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVDXxGsEzxI

>> No.2580298

>>2580293
>>2580290
samefag

>> No.2580302

>>2580298
Different fag actually. Just drunk and want to start a fight though.

>> No.2580303

>>2580298
Nah people just don't like you being a lil girlyman who pretends they don't have an opinion so they can look down on both sides.

>> No.2580304

>>2580302
Could you do it on /v/?

>> No.2580305

>>2580295
I don't know what he recorded his stuff from, but the highs are too high. High notes don't pierce your ears like that on actual hardware. I avoid posting his videos for that reason.

>> No.2580306

>>2580295
>Professor G
Post a link recorded from actual hardware you dweeb.
https://youtu.be/8rmEPAp2730?t=3m33s

>> No.2580308

>>2580302
>>2580303
Let's shit on this faggot and his weak neutral opinions. I bet he's a vegan.

>> No.2580312

>>2580295
Also don't call people "retards" when posting poorly emulated tracks, faggot.

>> No.2580314

>>2580304
I can do it everywhere. I'm not inhibited by your standards. It's probably why I fucked your mother in the bathroom at bennigan's. Give us an opinion to genuinely hate you for faggot.

>> No.2580319

>>2580308
And an environmentalist, left wing anti-racist.

>> No.2580320

>>2580312
>>2580306
>>2580305
Look guys it's ok that your music is full of loud shrieks that make ears bleed. Just don't post 144p uploads in a poor attempt at hiding that because that's incredibly dishonest.

>> No.2580327
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2580327

I love Castlevania, but I fucking hate Castlevania threads and its fanbase.

>> No.2580331

>>2580320
Yeah, just listen to this wonderful SNES music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDlnEDoaLos

>> No.2580334

>>2580320
I'd rather listen to phonautograph recordings of said songs than Professor G's shoddy emulations. It's downright cancerous how he seems to be the first choice whenever you search for a song on youtube, and he has probably done more damage in these type of pissing contest threads than the 16-bit console wars ever did to either system.

>> No.2580342

>>2580327
>Hurr durr I hate the fanbase
If you really did, you wouldn't feel the need to read or comment thus in these type of threads.
Face it, you're just as "bad" as the rest of us.

>> No.2580357

>>2580342

No I'd like to have nice Castlevania threads but that's impossible, everytime it's just a war about which entry in the series is best and shitting on the others.

Maybe I generalized when I said fanbase, I mean people who usually shitpost in CV threads, not necessarily CV fans. Most of them are just console warriors.

>> No.2580361

>>2580357
It's late/early.
Most here I think are just taking the piss, some probably drunker or more tired than others.
Something you shouldn't take seriously or should just avoid if you're not in the mood instead of taking a false high road.

>> No.2580408

>>2580209
>>2580239
super nintendo fags confirmed blown the fuck out.

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2580414

MFW this whole thread. I play these games while listening to actual music. I don't need to hear the same thing a thousand times like an autist.

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2580732

>>2580145
The only correct Apple's are golden delicious and granny Smith. All other apples are inferior and anyone that enjoys them are wrong.

>> No.2580778

>>2580303

But he does have an opinion. His opinion is that both are good games and only children like you need to give everything an arbitrary ranking system.

>> No.2580803

>>2580732
The only bad apple in that lineup is the red delicious. All of the rest can be delicious.

>> No.2580809

>>2580414
>playing gay shit that ruins the atmosphere of the games
>not wanting sound effects
>needing to play the same levels thousands of times

>> No.2580863

Quick SNES fags, post a better OST than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVx7VxHESL4

>> No.2580868

>>2580863

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QasPiQtkfr8

>> No.2580883

I'll just leave this right here....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hyyutNbEgiE

>> No.2580885

>people actually complain about the amazing tunes in Bloodlines
Well I've heard everything. Genesis has awesome sound and I'm not a fan of EVERYTHING SOUNDS LIKE SYMPHONIC MUSIC so many SNES games do. No, I don't care about technical bullshit, I care how the games sound. They are different machines but Genesis music pumps me up

>> No.2580903

>>2580290
Jesus Christ. You guys are gonna be as entitled as some of the boomers. I want off this ride.

>> No.2580910

>>2580076
While the SNES can actually use real samples, and quite frankly do some impressive stuff, I think that the samples just sound so hollow and empty to me, y'know?

>> No.2580937

>>2580290

>aggressively posting my raging opinion where my points are absolute truths and the other are a filth pile of shit is the best way to go

By your post it doesn't even seem necessary for you to say to us which one do you prefer, it'll probably be some shit of this kind.

>> No.2580938

>>2580883
>There's Professor G again
Here's how it really sounds:
https://youtu.be/o1QAKVfRFas?t=4m25s

>> No.2581367
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2581367

I like them both

>> No.2581373

>>2579896
Not really. Consensus is that these are three amazingly great games.

>> No.2581504

they're both gayest games in the series.

castlevania 3 is better than both and is 8-bit
rondo is better than both and is 16-bit

if you enjoy either you're a dumb faggot

>> No.2581506

>>2581373

Three?

>> No.2581537

>>2579896
Bloodlines is more interesting, better music, faster gameplay, finally breaking the mold.

>> No.2581554

>>2581373
>three

I like how people are throwing in Rondo of Blood just because.

>> No.2581559

>>2581504

But, Castlevania IV and Bloodlines are 16-bit too...

>> No.2581562

>>2581537
>finally breaking the mold

Yeah, if you use Eric.

John Morris is just the same old shit. Simon at least rocks with the whip.

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2581624

>>2580732
>not cox apples

>> No.2581646

>>2581562
Eric is best. He has longer range, has a high jump ability, and can spin his lance around to do a bit more damage. Morris is probably just for people wanna go more traditional, but Eric is definitely more versatile and better imo.

>> No.2581654

>>2580163
Oh damn that is sexy

>> No.2581682

>>2581559
i'm aware, but i'm drawing attention to the fact that lesser and same hardware have better alternatives

>> No.2581684

>>2580938
>Full soundtracks recorded on original hardware.

This is my fetish. Thanks for the link, anon.

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2582040

>>2580154
>form your own opinion
>he literally said "in my opinion" (imo)

>> No.2582059

>>2579908
You're a wise honorable poster, Anon, and I'm glad to share a board with you.

>> No.2582067

>>2582059
You guys gonna suck each others dicks now?

>> No.2582069

>>2582067
If he takes me out for dinner and a movie.

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2582074

>>2582069
can i watch jw

>> No.2582080

>>2582074
No.

>> No.2582369

>>2580106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOagvSmosBg

probably my favorite Genesis track of all in terms of the instrumentation

>> No.2582427

>>2580106
I can't choose one. Just listen to the entire thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MRKjLmVZBA

>> No.2582434

>>2579896
THIS WHOLE THREAD REFER TO
>>>/v/

>> No.2582960

Symphony of the Night would clearly be the best game in the series if it had a hard mode.

>> No.2582974

SOTN is overrated and GBA & DS titles improve upon it considerably.
Great presentation for sure but it's flawed

>> No.2582979

>>2582960
Try this
http://www.insanedifficulty.com/board/index.php?/files/file/80-castlevania-symphony-of-the-night-hardtype/

>> No.2584487

>>2579896
>play SCIV
>love it, beat it multiple times over the years
>play Bloodlines
>it's boring and the only good level is level 4 (coincidentally the only level with good music)
/vr/ sure has a lot of blind Genesis fanboys. Simon's Theme is fucking butchered as hell in Bloodlines, by the way.

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>>2584487
>the only good level is level 4 (coincidentally the only level with good music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBr5ATbPMc0

>> No.2584521

>>2584512
The genesis sound chip is so fucking bad.

It really sucks becuase I like Bloodlines, but the Genesis sounds so fucking bad,.

>> No.2584525 [DELETED] 

>>2584521
Guy hates video game chiptunes everybody.

>> No.2584540

>>2584525
I see the Sega Defense Force is in full swing tonight.

>> No.2584549

>>2584521
It has 2 sound chips and no, they don't suck.

They were just underxploited as all those lazy western sound guys couldn't play Yamaha synths for shit and preferred using that GEMS garbage.

Actually talented musicians could do wonders with the console.

https://youtu.be/KC-B3Q0cRrY

>> No.2584590

>>2580115
Holy shit, I can't imagine why anybody wouldn't prefer the new wave sound that SNES version had going on over whatever it was the Genesis was trying to do.

>> No.2584654 [DELETED] 

>>2584549
You're almost certainly talking to an underage who only knows about old games through Youtube bro, don't even bother.

>> No.2584656

>>2580115
>>2580118
>>2584590
>cherry picking
>bad recordings
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTPJLWA7Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5L7M7efN9w

The SNES ost lacks soul with those fake ass muffled samples.

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2585104

>Liking dulled out muddy sounds

>> No.2585128

>>2584521
You talk ass mate, go away.

>> No.2585152

>>2580106
the entire Streets of Rage 2 ost

>> No.2585154

oh look, this thread is still up after 3 days, happy to know that the janitors and mods are doing their job.

>> No.2585161

>>2585154
HE DOES IT FOR FREE

>> No.2585197

>>2580106
Thunderforce iv completely teabags the fuck out of any Snes ost.

>> No.2585338

IMO

Castlevania 4 has better atmosphere, levels, and eye candy.

Bloodlines has better music, bosses, and Eric is more fun than traditional whip wielding character's.

Both games are great in their own ways but I'm going to give 4 the nod over Bloodlines.

>> No.2585564

III > Rondo > Original > ReBirth > SCIV = Chronicles > Bloodlines > Dracula X

>> No.2586746

>>2585564
Chronicles > Rondo > SCIV = Bloodlines > III > Original > ReBirth > Dracula X > Simon's Quest > Belmont's Revenge > Vampire Killer > The Adventure > Legends > Haunted Castle

>> No.2586762

>>2580145
not having best apple: pink lady!!!!!!!!

>> No.2586826

>>2586746
>Simon's quest over Belmont's Revenge and Vampire Killer
Nigga wat

>> No.2586829

>>2586826
He has Adventure over anything. That's the real crime here.

Haunted Castle was fun to me. As long as you played the one with the toned down difficulty.

>> No.2586831

>>2586829
>Haunted Castle was fun to me. As long as you played the one with the toned down difficulty.
True, the Japanese revision is fair and enjoyable, but the USA revision is a broken quarter muncher, i like to 1cc arcade games, but Haunted Castle is pure memorization.

>> No.2586915

>>2580057
>X68000/Chronicles and Rondo as the best Classicvanias
My fucking nigger