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Just recently coming back from a little break of DQVII. Continued my adventure after class change and now I'm on the village below Dharma temple in the present world when there is a priest lying down in the ground. He attacked me when I tried to talk to him. Any tips defeating he and his friends? I read in the FAQ that you need to defeat him to progress with the story, but they hit so hard to my party. Do I really need to grind in order to defeat them, or are there any combination of classes that'll get me to defeat them easily?


Other DQ discussions are also welcomed.

>> No.2571841

slimes have at least 2 hp

>> No.2571873

>>2571841
This one just came off a victory of battling another slime and hasn't rested yet.

>> No.2571894
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>Not being a superior Metal Slime

>> No.2572421

I don't really remember DQ7 much but I guess you can have the wolf boy bark which would scare him. I remember it was massively useful against the early bosses.

Playing DQ3 (SFC) right now. Just got to the temple but everyone is about 15 so no class changes yet.

>> No.2573493

>>2572421
Hmm, good idea. I tried to cast sleep to them but could only get two of them to sleep. Maybe if I use it with bark I can get at least 3 of them to sleep while the hero is attacking.

>> No.2573497

>At the terrible end of DQ2
>Fusions are getting real difficult in DQM (playing without any guides)
what do I do

>> No.2573832

>>2571894
I hate you.

>> No.2573834

>>2573497
Grind and hope the RNG gods smile on you for DWII. I've beaten that game severely underleveled because I got stupidly lucky.

>> No.2573894
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>>2573497
>At the terrible end of DQ2
"Hi"

>> No.2573901

Dragon Quest games always seemed like some of the most coherent games ever made.

Every title knew exactly what it wanted and then achieved that. I don't think any of the games ever made me feel like it needed a little extra, or as if something was amiss.

They were always "whole experiences" if you will.

Plus, they're all charming as fuck.

>> No.2574181

>>2572421
>>2573493
It worked! Whoa, thanks dude. Didn't know debuff could be that strong. In the previous game I only use sap or upping tension at most, not the one that paralyzes. Then again, it's rare encountering enemies that outnumber the MCs, usually it's the other way around.

>> No.2574245

>>2573834
Yeah probably just gonna turn on some show and grind it out. Fuuuuuuuuuuck.

>>2573894
p l s

>> No.2574295

which one should i start with/which one is the best? i started playing the original dragon warrior for nes but it just isnt fun.

>> No.2574302

>>2571834
what a horrible and stupid shop

>> No.2574341

>>2574295
DQ3 for the gameplay, DQ5 for the story, DQ4 for the characters.

>> No.2574369

favorite dungeon theme? V's is great.

>> No.2574472

Hiya. Does anyone know of a link to a DQ 3 SNES english rom?

>> No.2574480

>>2574472
You just have to "Dragon Quest 3 SNES Rom." I go with emuparadise, and then Google "Dragon Quest 3 English Patch" and get an ips patcher. Assuming you don't know Japanese

>> No.2574603

>>2574472
Here you go:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/u4ss6jidn9vbu8m/Dragon+Quest+III+-+Soshite+Densetsu+e...+%28Japan%29+%5BT-En+by+DQ+Translations+v1.1%5D.sfc

The pre-patched rom on emuparadise is not the most recent, this is the one you want.

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>>2574181
When in doubt use debuff or other weird attacks. Dragon Quest is one of those weird games where every attack/spell/ability has some use. And not like those "this is perfect against this one and only enemy"
>>2574245
>p l s
"That's an awful nice party you have there right out of the cave!"

>> No.2574914

>>2574295
Personally 4 for NES is my favorite and 100% playable. Than I say DQ5 (both PS2 and DS are good). After that you can really play whatever you like. DQ2 is really the only "bad" game but that's because Enix was still figuring things out with how to do exploring. So DQ2 is just a bunch of fetch quest that are all really a pain to find. I say play the SNES version of DQ since they upped the EXP and gold so there's not real grinding.

>> No.2574939

>>2574914
I wouldn't call DQ2 bad, but I would call it tedious.

>> No.2574940

>>2574341
dq3 it is then, thanks. good answer

>> No.2574950

>>2574939
You are right but that's why I put quotes around it. It was made because they hammered out what works and what didn't. Even Horii admitted that they rushed the product out so they couldn't fully playtest it.

>> No.2574984

>>2574480
>>2574603
Appreciate it.

>> No.2575012

Is there any point in finished the last board game in 3? I already defeated the demon lords and the dragon god but I keep falling into holes or running out of rolls.

>> No.2576367
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2576367

Writing my own notes while playing Dragon Quest Monsters without a guide has been incredibly rewarding.

>> No.2576426

>>2573901
Was coming in here to say something like this. It's awesome how 'complete' every numbered Dragon Quest feels.

>> No.2576893

What's a good place to start after DQ1? I'm hearing that 2 is bad

>> No.2576905

>>2576893
Just play DQ2. Its not really bad just that it shows that they didn't really understand how to make a good open world game. So there's a ton of wondering and just not knowing where to go. Personally I say play it with a guide once you get the ship since you can easily spend days just wondering around to each island talk to everyone and get nothing.

>> No.2576969

>>2576893
If you've beaten DQ1 just know that 2 is very similar to DQ1, but bigger and longer, with more grinding and more wandering about aimlessly because you don't know where to go. Everything that DQ1 had, the good and the bad, is multiplied in DQ2. If you think you can handle that, play it. If not, skip to DQ3.

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>>2576893
I just beat DQ 2 moments ago. If you thought the original was charming and fun, then absolutely play it. It's bigger and has just more cool stuff in it.
I did it with a guide, just like DQ1. But it was so much fun.

>> No.2577209

>>2576969
Guess I'll skip to 3 then.
GBC or SNES?
Is 3 the one where you have to collect a million medals or whatever?
I'm actually thinking of skipping to 4 NES and continuing from there

>> No.2577217

>>2577209
>Is 3 the one where you have to collect a million medals or whatever?

That's in the GBC version only, and it's not necessary unless you want to fight the bonus boss.

>> No.2577220

>>2577209
>skipping one of the best games in the series

>> No.2577242

>>2577209
3 is a great game, and you shouldn't skip it. The SNES version looks great and has a very high quality fan translation. The GBC version is basically the same game, except on GBC so worse graphics and sound (but good by GBC standards). It did get an official English release and the translation is consistent if you played the GBC version of 1.

Aside from the hardware and translation differences, the GBC version had a system where you randomly get monster medals from enemies you kill, and you need to use those medals to proceed through the post-game bonus dungeon. The SNES version doesn't have the monster medals, it does have a bonus dungeon but you just go through it like a normal dungeon with really powerful monsters.

>> No.2577261

Anyone have a best version cart somewhere?
Thinking about finally getting into the series.

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>>2577261
Here's a food for thought link for you friendo.

http://vsrecommendedgames.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Quest

>> No.2577279

>>2577269
Thanks. Much obliged.

>> No.2577485

>>2577261
1-3: Either GBC or SNES, depending on how much you like GBC
4: DS/Android, it has the removed party chat
5: DS/PS2
6: DS
7: PS1 3DS Version never haha

Though speaking of other versions, I wish the PS1 remakes were translated. I'd love to play 4 and monsters 1+2.

>> No.2577547

>>2577485
>monsters 1+2

Pretty sure someone is working on that...or was.

>> No.2577563

>>2577547
I can only hope so. I tend to not trust translation projects until they actually release a full patch. Too many projects have been abandoned/turned into vaporware.

>> No.2577565

>>2577485
>3DS Version never haha
It's very likely they will be coming to the west at this point actually. Horii slipped as much at some French conference.

>> No.2577579

>>2577565
Yeah, I'm not believing anything SE says until I'm holding the damn game in my hands.

God, I hate SE so much.

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>> No.2577708

>>2577704
bitch nigga, that's cute

>> No.2577720

>>2577579
>God, I hate SE so much.
Yeah. I wish they'd set a precedent and seperate at this point. Things were better with both of them creatively when they were sepperate, the merger didn't do much possitive for either parties or the Japanese gaming scene.

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>>2577708
Have another
>the plot is basically what the kids were getting up to while looking for their dad with Uncle Sancho

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>>2577740

>> No.2577842

What's the best way of catching breeding fodder in DQM? Throwing ribs at weaker enemies doesn't seem to work too well, since I've already caught them.

>> No.2577907

I finished the first game on the GBC and fell in love (its simplicity and straightforwardness actually were a plus since I don't have so much time in my hands as when I was 14); tought I had to play 2 with fancier graphics.
Then I bought the Android version andwas let down, it doesn't have the charm of the GBC.

>> No.2578027

>>2577907
2's also just not as good. It's really cool up until about 5 minutes after getting the boat, and then it kind of just becomes tedious.

I do like the GBC versions more myself though.

>> No.2578523

Has the gamebreaking bug in the DQ2 SNES fantranslation been fixed, or is NES still the best option?

>> No.2578526

>>2578523
Just name your character something with 4 letters. Unless I'm thinking of a different bug.

>> No.2578542

>>2577217
>>2577220
>>2577242
Alrighty I'll go with 3 SNES and continue from there.
I know for 5 I should either go for SNES or PS2, 6 DS, 7 and 8 3DS (Hopefully...)
What about 4? PS1 is sadly untranslated and the DS version has awful accents. Should I just play the NES version?

>> No.2578554

>>2578542
Personally
1-3: SNES or GBC GBC has more content but SNES looks nicer
4: Honestly NES is my favorite. DS not only has accents but they cut out the party chat. And NES is still 100% playable if a bit annoying at times because of NES gameplay.
5: PS2 or DS. DS adds a new wife which I enjoyed.
6: DS since SNES is unfinished
As for 7 and 8 yeah just hope for the best.

>> No.2578559

>>2578554
What's wrong with the SNES version of 5?

>> No.2578570

>>2578554
You forgot to mention that you can't control your party members in DQ4 NES.

>> No.2578581

>>2578559
There's no real reason to play it honestly. PS2 is perfect if you are more into fan translation/more literal version. And DS has a bit more stuff and the localization isn't really that bad unlike DQ4.
>>2578570
Well you can with a Game Shark code: YYEXVTGE to have control over everyone. And honestly the AI is really only stupid some of the time. Like casting Beat against bosses.

>> No.2578582

>>2578542
What's the difference between the Japanese PS1 and DS versions of 4?

>> No.2578596

What is the best translated version of DQ I,II and III?

>> No.2578598

Doesn't the mobile version of IV have party chat?

>> No.2578608

>>2578596
Probably the GBC ones.

>> No.2578613
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>>2578598
It does.
Too bad the accents are still there...

>> No.2578619

>>2578596
GBC has a great localization. I wish to fucking god Enix of America was kept for all localization. DQ7's localization was pretty good too if I remember right.
>>2578582
I don't think there really is much difference.

>> No.2578658

>>2577563
The Lagrange Point translation only took 12 years to be released

>> No.2578749

>>2578613
>>2578542
There's nothing wrong with the accents

>> No.2578910

>>2578581
>Well you can with a Game Shark code
Oh thank god. This was the only thing putting me off from playing DQ4 on NES. Now I can't wait.

>> No.2579158

>>2578613
>tfw see nothing wrong with the accents
>tfw i realise growing up in ireland makes european accents in dq easy to understand
>tfw ireland is finally good for something

>> No.2579172

>>2578613
Uh, what happened to Alena's not-russian accent?

>> No.2579212

>>2578554
>6: DS since SNES is unfinished
Unfinished? I've never played that one, just curious what you mean by that.

>> No.2579216

>>2579172
My guess it was done by a different group. Since the first one never finished it.
>>2579212
I forgot how done it actually is but there's a lot of Japanese that pops up from NPCs and other things. I mean it's still 100% playable just better to play the DS version.

>> No.2579225

>>2579212
The fan translation has the main story finished, but if you try to do any of the post game stuff or even some optional late game stuff, dialog is all random gibberish. The people making it finished the bare minimum of what was needed to see the ending then stopped. There is no 100% translation of the game.

>>2578559
There's nothing wrong with DQ5 SNES per se, it has a full fan translation and is a good game, but the remakes improve everything and are available in English. So the only reason to play the SNES version is if you're a completionist or need to see the changes yourself. It's the same reason no one recommends the NES versions of 1, 2, or 3. People only recommend the NES version of 4 because many find the DS version's localization unbearable.

>> No.2579265

>>2571834
play them all. you can spend the rest of you're life playing dragon quest remakes

>> No.2579289

>>2579225
it is debatable if the 3D asthetic actually makes the games "better" or not, I for one actually prefer the original 2D versions.

>> No.2579298

>>2579289
I agree with this, and I strongly prefer the aesthetic of the SFC version of DQ5. The character models in the PS2 version are really ugly and I don't like the weird hybrid-3D environments in the DS/Android remakes. I just love the original's simplicity.

>> No.2580029

Fucking Metal Man is kicking my ass. I think I need to grind my shiny new RainHawk up to fight him.

Fucking MetalDrak and his berserk move, I could try to just pray to RNG that he kills his whole team himself but that's been rather fruitless so far.

Or I could go back to trying to catch metalys down the well. Fuuuuuck that.

>> No.2580095

>>2579216
Oh you mean the fan translation is unfinished, okay. I thought you meant the actual game hence the confusion.

>> No.2580105

>>2578613
>bairn
This confused the hell out of me, who actually says this to refer to kids?

>> No.2580107

>>2580029
Just use Metal Blade.

>> No.2580137

>>2580107
My Spikerous has Metal Blade but he never fucking uses it. It should, on "Charge", right?

>> No.2580219

I never played a DQ game. What's the best place to start? And on what platform? Also what with the all accents and party chat talk. What is it and why did they cut it.

>> No.2580229

>>2580219
In the remake of 4 for DS, you could talk to your party members and they'd comment on the area, plot, whatever was happening around them. It was rad. SE, when they localized it, removed that because they're lazy, and also gave every character annoying accents for no reason.

The iOS/Android port of 4 (based on the DS version) added party chat back in. Still has the accents though.

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http://strawpoll.me/5087167 .

>> No.2580560

>>2580548
>8 at top
Where my DQ3 boys at

>> No.2580563

>>2580548
Surprised that 9 is so high.

>> No.2580683

>>2580563
9 is pretty fun, as far as games go. certainly it will last you a hell of a lot longer than even 7 will, being 90% post game grinding. it doesn't compare to the other main series games in terms of story but it's great as kind of a dq sandbox timekiller type game.

>> No.2580802

>>2580560
Considering it was the first DQ most people played doesn't really surprise me 8 is winning. Personally NES of DQ4 is my top spot with DQ3 being a close second.

>> No.2581174 [DELETED] 

>>2576367
what notes dumbfuck you just put down the fucking names lmfao

>> No.2581507

so I have an action replay, I was wondering if all the wifi stuff can be cheated into the game using it? I know the game does not need it to be food since I am enjoying it already, but I just want the full experience you know?

I do not have anyone else who owns the game and I do not have a r4.

>> No.2581589

>>2581507
Can't you dump your save using the Action Replay?
The best way to unlock everything by using the DQIX Save Editor.

>> No.2581659

>>2581507
wifi acquired armor/clothing can be got just by connecting no? i have them and no action replay anyway

>> No.2581667

>>2581659
did you do it before wifi went down?

>> No.2581680

>>2581667
possibly, around when was it shut down?

>> No.2581732

>>2581680
may 20th 2014

>> No.2581746

>>2581507
Yes, you can use cheats to get everything that was originally part of the DQVC. I heard the quest and inn cheats are a little buggy, though.

>> No.2581752

DQ9 is my favorite DQ, with DQ6 being a close second. I love love LOVE the series, it's the only "modern" rpg (in the case of dq9) that as an "adult" i can still find witty and fun to play... looking forward to cosmic star heroine tho

>> No.2581797

>>2580802
I adore GBC 3. I really wanna play PSX 4. Someone should translate that, and DQM 1+2 while they're at it. Those ports look awesome.

>> No.2582195

>>2581797
>and DQM 1+2 while they're at it
http://aerie.wingdreams.net/?p=307

And I wish for PSX of DQ4 more than anything.

>> No.2582209

>>2582195
Aw shit nigga.

>> No.2582223

Would it be dumb to jump to V after just finishing the first one?

>> No.2582237

>>2582223
You can play whatever you want. I mean if you played 1 you might as well play 2 then 3.

>> No.2582263

>>2581746
great now I just need to find the codes

>> No.2582275

>>2582223
No, not dumb, but not really advised either. 1-3 and 4-6 form a loose pair of trilogies and I'm not sure what of 4 would be spoiled by playing 5 first because I've been fortunate enough to have gone through in release order.

>> No.2582296

>>2582275
It's not really about spoilers, since the plot of each game is pretty much self contained, it's more about the enjoyment of getting the references to previous games.

You play DQ1 before playing DQ3 so that When you go to the "World of Darkness" in DQ3, you'll be able to recognize from the map it's Alfgard, the world DQ1 took place in. and in the case of DQ4 before DQ5 if you already know about the Zenithian equipment and how it works, you get the emotional rush of finding the Zenithian Sword in 5, and not being able to equip it. And then later finding the same Dragon God's floating Island that you visited in 4 crashed on the ground and in ruins in 5.

>> No.2582332

>>2582296
Oh, and people who haven't played DQ3, 4, or 5 shouldn't read that spoilered text, but to better explain what I'm trying to say without spoilers:

If you play DQ5 before DQ4, it won't ruin the story of DQ4. But being familiar with what happened in DQ4 does enhance the narrative of DQ5 because of certain reoccurring elements. And the same is true of DQ6. So I recommend playing the games in order, but it's not absolutely vital that you do so if you don't want to.

>> No.2582714

>>2582195
oh shit, thought they were dead

>> No.2582873

>>2582332
Yeah DQ does a lot of "Hey remember this kickass sword well BOOM IT'S YOURS NOW NIGGA" and shit. Which makes playing them in order fun.

Not that it's needed. 3 and 5 are good entry points to the series imo, along with 1.

>> No.2583008

>>2582714
I only found out when someone linked it in a DQ thread on /v/. Happy it's getting finished. Seem like it was a bitch and a half but seems all the major problems have been iron out.

>> No.2583040

>>2583008
Yeah that guy might be slow as hell but he's never dropped a project, so props to him. All his shit's either come out or still being worked on.

Unlike fucking AGTP goddamn don't just say you're working on 500 things when you're not

>> No.2583425

>>2581797
I just want the SNES version of VI to get finished

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>>2579216
Nah, there's no Japanese left in the translation. Just blank lines with reference pointers and the occasional line like pic related with isn't much better.
Really, the game is "100% playable." It's really just certain areas that have blanked dialogue, after certain events happen, where the player is unlikely to return to.
The problem with me is I tend to return to those areas in games, so it's definitely not 100% playable.

>> No.2583454

>>2577720
>The merger didn't do much positive

Enix games: DQ 1-6, Torneko's Dungeon 1.
(7 games)

SE games: DQ 7-11, DQM, Fortune Street, Monster Battle Road series, the rest of the Torneko games, Slime series, and a bunch of other shit. (~36 games)

Dragon Quest would be the worst possible example if your point is trying to say that the merger didn't have positive results.

Or would you rather Enix have just gone bankrupt and not have those extra 36 games?

>> No.2583529

>>2583454
I thought it was Square that was going bankrupt

>> No.2583530

>>2583454
Enix wasn't the one going down, Square was. And there haven't been any decent non-port Final Fantasy games since.
Should have let capitalist natural selection run its course.

>> No.2583551

>>2583529
>>2583530

>80% of the company was Square employees
>The president of Enix demoted to VP of SE
>8 of the 10 divisions in the company were Square properties

Yeah, it's totally Square getting bought out, sure.

>> No.2583559

>>2583551
Nobody got bought out. It was a mutual merger.
Square was a larger company than Enix, no one's arguing that, but it wasn't Enix that was in financial trouble.

>> No.2583596

I'm playing through DQ 1 on the SNES for the first time and I have no fucking clue where to go.
I'm level 4 and went to the town in the northwest names after that bard, I also went to Rotos cave and found out about the 3 objects I should be getting

>> No.2583606

>>2583596
This game was meant for kids right?
I feel a little retarded...

>> No.2583617

>>2583454
You're timeline's a little off there. I know for a fact DQ7 came out while Enix and Square were still separate. I think most of the other PS1 games did too.

>> No.2583619

>>2583606
Don't be. Dragon Quest I and II are incredibly vague on where you should be going. II moreso because it's a much larger world.

I haven't played in a long time, but I think you should be heading east of Tantegel/Ladutorm now.

>> No.2583625

>>2583617
VII, IV PSX, Monsters, Monster II, Monsters I&II PSX, and Monsters Caravan Heart were all under Enix.

>> No.2583632

>>2583619
Should I even play 2?
I'm thinking of just skipping to 3 after I get through 1

>> No.2583636

>>2583632
Sure you should!

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>>2583606
The SFC remake used kanji. A small child isn't going to know 竜 (Dragon).

>> No.2584375

>>2583636
Isn't it more tedious than 1?

>> No.2584404

>>2583425
There isn't a DQ4 version on SNES. It's just NES/PSX/DS/mobile. Just 1-3 was remade for SNES.

>> No.2584424

>>2584375
Yes. However, it's still pretty good. Both 1 and 3 are better, but 2 has some interesting stuff, and it's really cool to see the evolution of the series. Back then, having multiple party members was a new and exciting thing, and the game is honestly really good up until about the halfway point. Once you get the boat it kind of falls apart a bit, but it's still a fun game.

>> No.2584451

>>2583454
There's a bunch of stuff you seem to either be lying or misremembering. Fortune Street was a thing since the NES days, Torneko had 2 under Enix, Monsters 1 and 2, DQ7 was Enix.

Also Enix wasn't in any way shape or form going bankrupt. Square was after pooling all their money into Spirits. Enix on the other game was still making money not just with DQ but just publishing other games and not raking massive risks like Square.
>>2583551
Square actually made games while Enix was just a publisher. Enix never made a game when they were by themselves.

>> No.2584460

>>2584404
He said VI.

>> No.2584462

>>2584460
Oh fuck sorry.

>> No.2584519

>>2583606

http://www.woodus.com/den/games/dw1nes/dw1nes_adventure_guide.pdf

Here. This will get you most of the way through, without a TON of spoilers.

>> No.2584558

Are the Gameboy Color versions of 1, 2, and 3 playable by today's standards?

>> No.2584563

>>2584558
Not only playable, but the best versions.

>> No.2584565

>>2584563
Better than the SNES versions?

>> No.2584570

>>2584565
In my opinion, yes. Better music and portability are a huge plus.

They're honestly equivalent, just depends on if you like 8bit or 16bit really.

>> No.2584585

>>2584565
It's a matter of opinion.
The GBC versions of each game were based off their SNES remakes, so they're roughly equivalent. The GBC version of 3 has a few additional bonuses.

>> No.2585020

which is your favorite?
http://strawpoll.me/5087167/

>> No.2585173

>>2584565
Depends on what you are looking for. SNES looks better and sounds better but the GBC has more content. Another upside to the GBC is that everything is based on tiles. In the SNES you might feel like you are right above the thing you need to search but really you are a couple of pixels off.

>> No.2585431

>>2584565
gbc versions have worse screen size/music/graphics than snes. shopping menus and items bags have to be pages rather than fullscreen. its much easier to get lost while sailing on gbc. dq3 gbc has monster medals added and a new dungeon involving the monster medals.

i'd still rank the gbc remakes over the nes versions though. comparing nes the only thing worse on gbc is screen size. everything else is improved. like gbc has snes' reworked enemy stats and exp.

>> No.2585527

Is there any quick way of making money fast in DQM? The post-game gates are kind of kicking my ass, and I need to buy sirloins for better breeding fodder.

>> No.2585582

Should I start with DQ4 or 5?
I'll be playing the DS versions

>> No.2585754

>>2585582
DQ4 is the go to one to play if you are just starting Dragon Quest. The problem is that each versions has pros and cons.
NES has a pretty good localization but gameplay is a bit bad if you are not use to 8bit JRPG.
DS has a pretty annoying accent (my opinion) and they cut out the Party Chat which is half of the text which is even more annoying.
Mobile is basically the DS with Party Chat.

So pick your poison.

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>>2585431
It's not that bad.

>> No.2585828

>>2585824
I really dislike how tall the character sprites are in the SNES remakes. Why couldn't they keep them nice and square like DQ5?

>> No.2585829

>>2585828
You are the worst person

>> No.2585835

>>2585829
How so? I just like feel like the sprites are too big. Same reason I don't really like them in the DS remakes.

>> No.2585843
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>>2585828
It's amazing how much of a difference it was between DQ5 and 6. The same can be said about FF4 and 6.

>> No.2585848

>>2585843
Well yes, there's a huge improvement in terms of level of detail between the games, but I still generally prefer the aesthetic of DQ5. It's just the right amount of simplicity to complement the game's design, while not looking as archaic as the NES Dragon Quest games.

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>>2585824
you can't see the bridge and tower when exiting the town on gbc. it gets really bad once you reach the ocean. comparing item bags/shop menus shows another screen size issue.

>>2585828
they opted for more detail and human sized sprites. plus npc sprites larger than the actual square space they take up adds depth

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2585863

Do other DQ games have bikinis and appropriate models?

>> No.2585867

>>2585863
I think it's only DQ3 SNES and DQ8 with Jessica.

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>>2585863

>> No.2585876

>>2585867
9 has every equipment look like something too, including bikinis.

>> No.2585879

>>2585853
It's just too bad that they completely fucked up that approach in DQI and DQII mobile. They put in the larger character sprites, but the world around them is still mostly still squares, resulting in NPCs larger than doors.

>> No.2585882

>>2585863
Most DQ games with female party members have bikinis (or underwear) for them to wear. But I think it's only 3, 8, and 9 that have an effect on the character sprite/model.

I recall hearing that 5 had sprite changes with the Wife, but it's certainly not the NA DS version.

>> No.2585883

>>2585874
My favorite one was the merchant with the inner tube.

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>>2585876
For some reason I always forget about DQ9. Never really played it since their talk about multiplayer kind of turned me off since I'm more of a pure single player myself.
>>2585879
They just really fucked up the aspect ratio on it. But from what I've heard it's just a cheap port of the phone version like 10 years ago. The port of 3 I heard isn't very good too since they took out the board game and while you can set party to AI they aren't very smart.

>> No.2585893

>>2585884
9 becomes amazing in multi, but even the grind heavy endgame can be done solo.

Speaking of 9's endgame, it really does not have an end. Sure you can only 10 star classes, but you can still rebirth those maxed ones too...

>> No.2585896
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>>2585884
Pic related. And the walls in general too.
They tried to go for a DQVI/DQIII SNES look, but did a pretty sloppy job of it.

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>>2585893
I know I just tend to get turned off when adding major multiplayer stuff in games. Happy it did well over here at least.
>>2585896
I think the worse thing is the sparkle in DQ1. I mean I get adding it in DQ2 because those crests are a pain to find but giving a sparkle to the Fairy Flute just makes no sense since a NPC tells you exactly how to get it.

>> No.2585907

>>2585902
Oh. Freaking wow.

>> No.2586003

>>2585863
>the Hero's daughter in DQ5 can wear bikinis and leotards

J-Japan, no!

>> No.2586087

>>2585884
>>2585896
>>2585902
>that scaling
how the hell can someone actually sit through this

>> No.2586142

>>2585884
>>2585902
I truly don't understand how Japan can eat these ports up. You'd think people who love Dragon Quest so much would hate seeing the games butchered like that.

>> No.2586309

>>2577704
>that character design

I hope Square sued

>> No.2586313

>>2579158
Irishfag here

That's supposed to be a Scottish accent.

Please stay in America

>> No.2586345

>>2586313
Irish fag 2. I also thought it's stereotype Irish

>> No.2586494

>>2586313
>european accents
i never said it was an irish accent you fucking knob

>> No.2586965
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I am about a half hour into DQ4. Do these accents ever stop? Please tell me its just for this story

>> No.2586970

>>2586965
Unfortunately not, and they continue throughout all of the DS games. I really wish someone would "fix" the translations to remove this bullshit. I've never read a book that wrote accents this thick. It's fucking stupid.

>> No.2586979

>>2586965
Chapter 2 gives "Russian" accents. And by that I mean broken English for some stupid reason. I mean it's much easier to read than chapter 1 but not by much. However after that it tapers off and it's as bad. Sadly they took away Party Chat. Some feel it's because they spent most of their time making those things. The game is still good just annoying at times. Which is sad because NES version is one my favorite NES game.

>> No.2586994

>>2586970
They're not nearly as bad in V and VI. Stop being such a whiny baby.

>> No.2587810

>>2586965
Most people give up on DQ4 DS after playing that chapter.

>> No.2587820

>>2586965
Don't worry, Ragnar's chapter is by FAR the worst when it comes to accents.
It's a really shitty way to introduce you to the game, that's for sure, but it gets better.

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2588713

>My name is Erdrick, you killed my father. Prepare to die ...

>> No.2588747

>>2588713
>that resolution

Call it autism, but I'd never be able to play a game like that.

>> No.2588764

>>2588747
It's a choice between playing windowed or fullscreen ,it's not perfect but better than playing in half screen window

>> No.2588767

>>2588764
You can play fullscreen without ruining the fucking game, idiot

>> No.2588774

>>2588767
Lel, I only went out from full scream when I was saving you cock fed retarded goy

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>>2582195
It's been too long, man.

https://youtu.be/O1AW_ef4jsw

>> No.2589043

>>2588991
>played DQMonsters before playing DQVI (like almost every english speaking DQ fan).
>later on realized that the opening of DQM is a huge spoiler for a certain DQVI plot point.

As much as I like the game, it still hurts.

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>>2589043
It hurts even more when you think of all the shit Terry and his sister had to go through.

>> No.2589827

>>2571894
Anon, you cant just start as a Metal Slime. Geez, you might as well claim to be a Demon Lord from level 1.

>> No.2589860

>>2589827
I'm pretty sure slimes don't evolve.

>> No.2589876

>>2589860
>imblying I dont just throw monsters at each other and they turn in to other monsters
>some times completely different species

>> No.2591889

I just finished DQ5 on SFC and started on DQ6 for the same.

Loved this theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXz1WqRw3Ks

>> No.2591950

>>2591889
Enjoy your missing text

>> No.2591958

>>2591950
Maybe he's playing in Japanese. It's not uncommon around these parts.

>> No.2592027

>>2585824
I've played 5 and 1, and am currently playing 4. I wanted to play 3 next but I can't decide between SNES and GBC. The main this that hurts the SNES one for me is the weird fonts the fan translation uses, but I really like the better graphics, higher resolution, battle backgrounds etc. I played 1 on the GBC for what it's worth and enjoyed it.

>> No.2592034

>>2591950
>>2591958
I can switch to the Japanese ROM to read whatever I miss but generally stick to the translated version because I'm still a slow reader.

I passed over DQ4 but I guess I'll have to eventually man up and play it full Japanese if I want to dodge those accents.

>> No.2592036

>>2592027
What's wrong with the font?

>> No.2592048

>>2592034
How do you become a faster reader if not by training?
DQ2 was the first game I played in Japanese after learning kanji and obviously it was a slow start but I got used to it.

>> No.2592051

>>2592036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ea5hKnrUqI&t=21m16s
If this is how it looks, I'm seeing multiple fonts without a consistent style, odd spacing both horizontally and vertically

>> No.2592052

>>2576367
That's the way to go. Any RPGs pre-PS era are best played like that.

>> No.2592056

>>2592048
>DQ2
Why didn't you play DQ1? That's way more straight forward and easy to play. But I only just started and can't even read a proper sentence.

>> No.2592057

>>2592056
I played the translated version of DQ1 before.

>> No.2592064

>>2592051
Ah, right. I forgot that the menus and dialogue boxes use different fonts.

>> No.2594464

>>2580229
Is the iOS version different in other ways? does it run more or less the same?

>> No.2594485

>>2594464
From what I've seen, it's more or less the same otherwise. The mobile ports are all pretty decent, honestly, if you don't mind mobile gaming. 1-3 are based off of SNES, 4-6 on DS, I believe? With 8 being its own new thing and 7.. I dunno, it's not out in the west yet.

>> No.2594491

>>2594485
1-3 is actually based on the phone version from like 10 years ago. It actually lacks things that were in the SNES like the board game. DQ4 is the DS with party chat in it. DQ5 and 6 are the DS versions. DQ8 has all the stuff the PS2 version has but runs like ass. And who the fuck knows what will happen with DQ7 since even in Japan there's no DQ7 mobile.

>> No.2594492

>>2594485
I played the iOS version of 1 and I think they did some stuff to make it a lot easier

>> No.2594494

>>2594491
Oh, ok. I just saw a bit of footage and it looked like the SNES versions to me. And yeah 8 is ass, not that 3DS 8 looks much better mind you. And I forgot about DQ7 getting delayed. You'd think they'd try to push 7 and 9 on mobile out pretty fast too, but I guess not.

>>2594492
Sounds like the balance changes they've made in every version, iirc. I know you get more money from Goldmen in the GBC version, for example.

>> No.2594497

>>2594492
I think they just did two things. First is add the stick in your inventory so you don't have to waste money at the start buying a weapon. And second is adding a sparkle to where items are on the ground. However I feel doing it in DQ1 actually makes it less enjoyable. One of the great things about DQ1 is that everyone tells you exactly what to do but you have to go out and do it. And the Fairy Flute is the perfect example of that. Someone tells you in a later town that there is a Fairy Flute in the town with the bath house and tells you the exact amount of steps needed to find it. But with the sparkle you will see it right away and so you are no longer finding it on your own. Now adding it in DQ2 is fine in my opinion because most of the hidden things are just impossible to find or hidden in a way that you would just search every step to find something like with the Fire Temple.
>>2594494
>not that 3DS 8 looks much better mind you
From the few videos it seem like it runs fine plus added content. iOS is just normal PS2 but with a HORRIBLE frame rate and pretty lackluster sound quality.

>> No.2594547

>>2594497
Yeah, I can agree with the sparkles. DQ1 points out everything really well (though the seal's a bit tricky), but DQ2's hidden items are kind of crap. Fucking yarn.

>> No.2594892

Which DQ to start with?

>> No.2594893

>>2594892
Start with 1 and play them all in order.

>> No.2595013
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>>2594892
1 and 2 are short enough, 3 is fun because of selectable party members, if you're still on board then hold onto your butt because DQ4 is the best of the classic series. I still find killing slimes in DQ1 to be enjoyable.

Honestly there's not a bad game in the bunch, although DQ7 is my least favorite simply due to its length (easily 100+ hours). If you want to play just the essentials, I'd say DQ1 because it's the mother of all JRPGs, then DQ4 (probably the pinnacle of the genre on the NES), and DQ5 (which introduced mechanics like having monsters in your party and the ability to choose a bride). After that, playing a newer title like DQ8 will give you much more appreciation for how it retains classic elements while bringing the series into a modern age.

>> No.2595062

>>2595013
>barbara
>arina
Who?

>> No.2595101

What would be good starting monster in dragon quest 5? I did a booboo and I defended the fake Queen before I got the caravan

>> No.2595157

>>2595101
A Slime Knight never stops being useful, and you can get one early, too.

>> No.2595938

>>2595101
Golems scale really well.

>> No.2596123

>>2595062
Arina = Aleena. I don't knmow what Barbara was called in whatever crap remake you must have played.

>> No.2596702

>>2596123
I think she's called Ashlynn in the remake.
But that's to be expected of a modern Nintendo localized JRPG, they change the character's names to something completely different. Golden Sun, Fire Emblem, Dragon Quest, it's their thing.

>> No.2596712

>>2596702
>modern Nintendo
When did they not do that? Dragon Warrior 1 already had plenty of that.
I don't understand why, it's not like they had Japanese names or anything too outrageous for American minds.

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First time playing so far got my wifu. I know she is not as great spellcaster like the other one but I like her :)

>> No.2597260

>>2597145
>but I like her

The only good reason.

>> No.2597387

Art thou the descendant of Erdrick? Hast thou
any proof?

>> No.2597509

>>2596702
But Nintendo didn't actually localize any Dragon Quest titles beyond the original game on NES.
They only funded the localization of the DS titles they were involved with.

>> No.2597514

>>2596123
Watch out, we got a purist over here

>> No.2597518

>>2594485
>>2594491
>>2594494
1-3 were released much earlier on dumbphones in Japan. 1 and 2 were remade for these phones from scratch, and 3 was ported from the SNES, and had many features stripped out of it.
All three of these were later ported to smartphones, aka android/iphone

>> No.2597524

>>2597509
I'm pretty sure Nintendo localized VI and IX when Square-Enix dropped the DQ support in the west.

>> No.2597564

>>2597524
But that's wrong.

>> No.2597570

>>2597524
They published them and handled the marketing, they didn't do the localization.

>> No.2597753

Finished playing through Dragon Quest 1 this week, and almost towards the end of 2, I think.

I had to use a guide for 2 because this game is absurd in relation towards finding things. Hopefully 3 won't be as horrible. I'm already bracing for the dreaded Rhode/Hargon part of the game.

Anyway, which is better, Thunder Sword or Falcon Sword?

>> No.2597841

>>2597753
Thunder on Hero, Falcon on Prince.

>> No.2598032

>>2597753
3 isn't nearly as bad. 2's really the only "bad" mainline DQ, and even then, it only gets kind of grindy and bleh after you get the boat.

>> No.2598317

>>2597841
Thanks, I was thinking that would be best.

>>2598032
That's good to hear, yeah the boat part got especially annoying, with the influx of sea slugs and jellyfish. Looking more forward to finishing this game and starting 3.

Did they fix that Staff of Thunder & Water Flying Cloth glitch in the SNES version? Because I've been trying to look for another second Dew Yarn with no luck.

>> No.2598329

>>2598317
I'm fairly sure that's an NES only glitch. Enjoy grinding for a fur coat haw haw haw I'm currently putting off doing that by playing DQM

>> No.2598349

>>2598329
Damn, oh well. Maybe when I'm grinding for exp at the end of the game I would have gained enough gold to buy it, I doubt it though.

How is DQM?
I tried playing a little of it, but just couldn't get into it. Might try to get back into it with DQM3 coming out.

>> No.2598356

>>2598349
It's basically pokemon+megaten+dragon quest, which I'm more than OK with. First game has a whole randomized dungeon thing, which is fun. Post game is kind of kicking my ass because of my shit fusions, but I should be fine once I actually level up some of these slow ass fuckers. Fucking Whiteking and GoldSlime level so goddamn slow.

Kind of tedious to 100% the library since it can be hard to catch more fusion fodder, not to mention I'm playing spoiler-free and discovering new recipies can be a pain.

>> No.2600962

>>2598356
Oh I thought you were talking about Joker, I haven't tried DQM. It sounds interesting, I'm glad I've given up on trying to 100% games (for the most part, sometimes it can be too much). Seems like a lot to do, good luck with it all.

Might give the spin offs a go once I'm done with the main games, not counting 7,8 and 10.

>> No.2601328

>>2600962
I tend to not be very completionist with RPGs unless they're some form of monster collecting whatever. Get all the best weapons and secret armors and stuff? Eh. Collect all the dumb evolving dragons and rats? FUCK YEAH SON GIMME DAT

>> No.2602625
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I'm playing the 3DS version of VII right now, I've never played the original version. I just met up with Tia at the place where the Immigrant Town will be and directed her slime turned poet friend there.

I haven't yet tried out the lithographs she gives me, but I've read that with the, you can access special dungeons. Is there much point to these? Will I be screwing myself if I ignore them?

Also, what are the perks to building up the town? I remember in IV that you could buy Angel Leotards from one version, so I hunted down 30 women right away so I could get that. I plan to get the town in VII to max level anyway, but if there's no big reward for doing so, I may not worry about hunting down immigrants until right before the end of the game. I'm not even sure how they work in this game anyway. Do they appear in fixed places at fixed times? In IV (PSX anyway) random immigrants appeared in certain locations randomly. You could get as many as you wanted as soon as the Immigrant Town was open for business.

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>>2602625
>I'm playing the 3DS version of VII right now

>> No.2602716

>>2602625
Look, I'm not saying I'm jealous, but I am going to beat you up.

>> No.2602730

>>2602680
>>2602716

Heh, sorry. Hopefully it gets a localization, a decent one at that, one of these days. Tales fans went through a similar experience for awhile, so hopefully western DQ fans get a break too.

>> No.2602739

>>2602730
Sadly SE seem to be willing to localizing everything of theirs BUT DQ. And all those 3DS games look really sweet even if they are remakes.

>> No.2602898

>tfw Dragon Warrior 1 is Grinding: The Game

Don't hate it though. The game actually showed me I don't mind grinding.

>> No.2602909

>>2602898
It's not that bad once you realize you don't need every upgrade. And later remakes of 1 reduced the grinding a tad.

>> No.2602932

>>2602909
A general rule of thumb is that I grind to have enough money for certain equipment at certain points. If I do that, then I'm generally on par, and rarely overleveled. For example, I'm getting the leather armor, copper sword, and small shield before touching the first dungeon. I'll be well equipped. Further since Dragon Warrior is an open ended game, I can go to later spots and get more gold than I should, which causes grinding to taper off as the game progresses.

>> No.2602939

>>2602932
You just need to farm Golden Golems south of the town that sells keys. That cuts your need for farming by a lot.

>> No.2602943

>>2602939

Don't Metal Slimes give you the most experience? Though they're probably not as easy to find as Golems. I didn't even know Metal Slimes existed in the first game until I read about it in passing recently.

>> No.2602946

>>2602943
Gold Golems just give you fat stacks of cash.

>> No.2602947

>>2602939
I'm not quite that strong yet. Only Level 4. The thing I like about this game though is that the whole world is open to you. So I'll make my way down there.

>> No.2602949

>>2602943
They are really rare and annoying to fight. And really gear is really important.
>>2602947
Take your time. I just was saying when you can do that since gear gives a nice boost.

>> No.2602963

>>2602949
Thanks anon. At this point I only have a shield, Dragon scale, and armor. So I'm basically just thing around punching things to submission. Pretty funny actually.

>> No.2602971

>>2602963
Weapons are actually more important than armor. Since you want to kill them before they kill you. The little boost in defense is nothing compare to killing them in a turn or two. If you don't know it yet in the castle there is a guy that can refill your MP. So you can save some money from sleeping in the inn.

>> No.2602984

>>2602971
That I know. Inns at this point becomes obsolete...For now, as I do have to venture farther.

>> No.2603080

>>2602739
They've all but confirmed localizations for the PS4 DQ games, so there's that at least.

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>>2603080
Source? There have been nothing but "we will consider it like we did with all the other DQ games" like this.

>> No.2603192

>>2603080
>>2603089
Dragon Quest Heroes is confirmed for release in the west. I think other games will be heavily influenced by how well it sells.

>> No.2603223

>>2603192

>by how well it sells.

Which is why everyone thinks they're dead in the water.

>> No.2603319

>>2603223
This. I think that Final Fantasy has really overshadowed the market. I be honest the first dragon quest i ever played was 9 and I had little to non knowledge of the franchise

>> No.2603326

>>2603319
final fantasy is vaporware at this point, too

>> No.2603329

>>2603326

More like shovelware. They're still pumping out spin-offs. But please, let's not turn this into another FF hate thread, calmer DQ threads are better.

>> No.2603330

>>2603326
Yes but it will pigiback on nostalgia especially with 7 being remade with new graphics

>> No.2603342

>>2603329
Dragon quest is still standing strong where everything after FFX is just disappointment after disappointment.

>> No.2603354

>>2603342

Pretty much, though I'd say after IX. X had some good moments/things however. I love most of the older games though.

>> No.2603401

>>2603354
Well I liked the new summon mechanics, but blitzball was just soooo bad. If they made it more like a underwater fifa it would be so much Better and also the infamous voice acting in English version

>> No.2603416

I remember reading that in the older games, characters placed higher up in the party list had a higher chance of getting hit. Does that still hold true for the later games? VII keeps placing Maribel in the second slot, I'm getting tired of having her and Kiefer swap places.

>> No.2603638

>>2603416
I think it's 33/30/25/22
Or something like that. Yeah it slowly decrease more down the line but only by a little.

>> No.2603671

About to jump into DQ4-6 first, I have a question though are the storylines actually decent?

I hear complaints that they are your typical jrpg storyline, do they get better later in the series?

>> No.2603680

>>2603671
What DQ does well is small stories scattered around the world. They tend to give you a fairly open world and each town has something new to do. DQ5 is the only one that breaks the mold with a character focus story. And they are all good personally. DQ6 is really the only one outside of 2 that's not really "best JRPG ever" list. And it's not even that bad just not that great.

>> No.2603880

>>2597387
I'm a bit confused. Is Erdrick just another translation for Loto? Or is it one of Loto's descendants?

>> No.2603892

>>2603671
Dragon Quest stories are very different from the stories of other typical JRPGs. Instead of having a huge, epic plotline, the story is made up of short tales told from town to town as you solve relatively minor problems, and they build up to the final confrontation with the big bad that caused all of the problems. I think it's a nice change of pace and really suits the style of the series in general.

>> No.2603902

>>2603880
Yeah, Erdrick is Loto.
They used Erdrick in the original DQ1 localization, the Mobile port and the DQ9 cosplay equipment.

>> No.2603905

>>2603671
>I hear complaints that the game that effectively created the JRPG has a typical JRPG storyline

>> No.2604528

Well I was enjoying Dragon Quest VII, but suddenly rxTools stopped working for no reason at all. If Nintendo wasn't stuck in the 90s I'd just buy the game, I'd be happy to, but I really don't want to buy a Japanese 3DS.

>> No.2604608

>>2604528

>Error: You cannot delete a post this old.

Good lord, 4chan. I don't know why Moot went out of his way to make it worse to fuck it up before he left.

>> No.2604613

>>2603880
Loto/Roto is what Erdrick is known as in Japan.
The GBC versions of I, II, and III used translations closer to the original Japanese script, so they used Loto, while every other game before and after has used Erdrick.

>> No.2605018

>>2602625
I know that in the ps1 version you had to build a farm type town in order to get Gabos ultimate weapon, but I forgot what the other town types do.

>> No.2605127

>>2605018

From reading some Japanese sites, it looks like there's only one final form for the town in the 3DS version.

>> No.2605284
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2605284

I'm about to take Dragon Quest II with me on a 7 hour plane trip along with a few other gameboy games loaded on my flash cart/gbmicro. I've never played before, any last minute tips?

>> No.2605295

>>2605284
Try to win the Gold Card, the Wizard Ring and the Wizard Wand from the lottery. They are all very useful early on.

>> No.2605348

>>2605284
When you get the boat, explore. Look for.. smaller islands first, is what I'll say.

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>>2574295
>tried dw for the nes but it just isn't fun
I finished the SNES version for the first time yesterday and really enjoyed it.
It was pretty grindy, pretty simple and pretty short but it's an extremely oldschool game so that's kinda what I expected. Still very charming, had a lot of fun with it.

>> No.2606206

>>2606094
If you do play the SNES of DQ2 careful with having a long name. I don't know if they fixed it or not but there is a bug where if you have a long name and rest in an inn the game becomes unplayable. So best to limit it to 4 characters in the name.

>> No.2606564

>>2606206
the inn freeze is a glitch with the 2nd party member, a guy. it happens at beran inn. there's a pushbutton code at the title screen you can enter to rename your party members, so its really easy to avoid. mine always ends up as kain but it might be because i named the main character by dq number (two).

kain was fine
kaina was fine
kainaaaa hit the freeze

>> No.2606729 [DELETED] 
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2606729

Not retro, but what do you guys think about this?

>> No.2606738

>>2606729

I'm liking the 3DS version's 3D visuals more than the PS4's for some reason. They just seem to fit Dragon Quest better. I'll still probably buy the PS4 version though.

>> No.2606750

>>2606729
>reusing DQ3's assets

Boo.

>> No.2606776

Just reached Grinfrek in DQ VII (probably a different name in the English version, I don't know what it is). A second town where everyone has been turned to stone? I didn't expect that. Wonder if the grey rain struck here too? It's quite gloomy like Diarak too so probably.

>> No.2607436
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2607436

DQ's dialogue is pretty silly sometimes.

>> No.2607442

>>2607436

Looks like some fan-translation liberties or a mistake. It was probably ダメだ or something.

>> No.2607449
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>>2607442
How about this one?

>> No.2607454

>>2607449

Probably punched up a bit, but it wouldn't surprise me if pee was involved. Is that in the first town?

>> No.2607458

>>2607454

Oh wait no, that's Reeve. I'll check it out in a bit.

>> No.2607472

>>2607449
>>2607454
>>2607458

Yep.

"Whoa! Don't talk to me so suddenly! I peed all over my foot!"

I'd check the other one but she's probably in Samaltria, isn't she? And I don't feel like grinding, getting the prince, and going there since I'm currently playing another Dragon Quest.

>> No.2607516

>>2571834
What's that program that translates Japanese? I'm planning to use that along side the Dragon Quest games to aide my learning in Japanese.

>> No.2607518

>>2607516

>That program that translates Japanese

Well that narrows it down. You mean Rikai-chan/kun/sama? The Firefox plug in?

>> No.2607523

>>2607518
No...It was a downloadable program that translates kanji and kana of other programs.

>> No.2607527

>>2607523

I think I've heard of something like that, people like using it for VNs. Can't remember what it's called though. I never used anything like that when playing games even when I was just starting out, so I have no idea.

>> No.2607531

>>2607523
Kanjitomo?
Just to tell you that you are best to study grammar beforehand.

>> No.2607543

>>2607523
There's text hookers but they don't really magically translate stuff into readable english, they're more for studying. ATLAS is okay but these days it's about as good as Google translations.

>> No.2607781

>>2607527
Those don't work with emulators or even many Windows games.

>> No.2607914

>>2606729
i was hyped at first because its like 2 games simultaneously, but unfortunately i've heard the bottom screen won't always be available. its probably just a gimmick for sales.

>>2606750
ugg that kinda ruins it

>> No.2607931

>>2607914

You can choose which you want, 2D or 3D. Both are available for a time, but then you must make a choice. However, you can switch between the two at any time, apparently.

>> No.2608251

Wait...they deleted my DQXI post? But we talk about non-retro DQ titles all the time here on /vr/...oh well.

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>>2608251
its probably best not to start a post with "not retro". but yeah, chances aren't getting the game anyways so people might be salty about seeing it.

>> No.2608713 [DELETED] 

>>2608251
the /vr/ janitor is autistic as fuck and just deletes whatever he doesn't like, this is known

>> No.2608750 [DELETED] 

did someone seriously report a screenshot of XI?
wow, that's terrible.

>> No.2608834

Is there any reason why I shouldn't make a full female party in DQ3?
They have the best personalities, better equipment choices, are easy on the eyes...

>> No.2608957

>>2608834
Remake has a couple male-specific items (nothing super special, I don't think). The original has no alt female hero sprite so you still look like a man.

>> No.2609003

I only have 1-4 on NES, and only played 1. Going to play the others. I don't see the NES versions recommended much, so should I hold out for a different version?

>> No.2609008

>>2609003
They require more grinding and have less content than the remakes, but by NES standards they aren't bad games. If you could make it through 1 you can probably do the rest.

>> No.2609019

>>2609003
DQ4 is the best JRPG on the NES. I think you'll be able to appreciate it more on that console.

>> No.2609021

>>2609003
People recommend the SNES of 1-3 because it's basically NES without the grinding plus added stuff. You can easily play the NES versions of all of them just keep in mind that its super grindy and a bit unfair at times (Rhone being the biggest fuck you). Honestly I prefer DQ 4 NES over the DS since I prefer the NES localization. And by that point they had a pretty good understanding of level balance so it's not as grindy as DQ 1-3 (3 is only really grindy depending on your party).

>> No.2609072

Thanks for info. If I do SNES 2 and 3, will I "miss out" on anything by not playing the NES versions? Thinking about playing SNES 1-3 following NES 2 and 3.

>> No.2609097

>>2609072
The names of some things are slightly different in the fan translation but nothing too much. Erdrick is Loto I think is the biggest change. It's nice to play 1-3 on the same system because of consistency but as long as you know the changes it's fine.

>> No.2609103

>>2609021
Except for 1 they're not "super grindy". Just don't run from battles all the time. I never had to grind in any DQ but the first one.

>> No.2609107

>>2609097
Interestingly enough, GBC also used the more accurate to Jp names like Loto as well.

>> No.2609108

>>2609103
Have you played DQ2 NES? While not nearly as grindy as DQ1 it's still pretty fucking grindy. With having characters join you at level 1 in areas where enemies can easily one shot them. You almost need to grind in the last area because of how badly Rhone is. Even Horii said that DQ2 is just an unfair game and wish he could just redo the whole thing. And I did say that DQ3 is really only grindy depending on your party which is true.

>> No.2609110

>>2609107
Well Enix of America back in 2000 said they wanted it to be as close as they could to the original text. DQ7 is a damn good localization except for spots here and there which I've heard is because they were kind of rushed and didn't have time to properly proof read.

>> No.2609705 [DELETED] 

Currently playing Dragon Quest Monsters Super Light on Bluestacks. Good fun so far! If you want the link, I got it from a gentleman on /v/: http://www.apkpure.com/dragon-quest-monsters-sl/com.garena.game.dqmsl

If you liked the Monsters series, it's a good game.

If you actually install the game, insert that code to get a free Rank S monster: M3gqBBxS

>> No.2609706

>>2609705
Forgot to say: you need facebook to play. But it's not a facebook game. It won't post anything to your wall.

>> No.2609741

>>2609706
>you need facebook to play.
Yer fucking kidding. Why?

>> No.2609745

>>2609706
Oh. I was going to download it later, but now I'm not. Fuck that shit.

>> No.2609763

>>2609745
>>2609741
>not having a bogus facebook based off a bogus email account to take advantage of offers targeted at normies in shitty internet games
I SHIGGY NO DIGGY

>> No.2610063

>>2609019

I really enjoyed the PSX version, the first (and so far only) version I played. But I get what you're saying, it probably would be something to see on the NES, I should try that version some day.

>>2609103

You saying you never had to grind in II? I didn't run from battles and did pretty well until I got to the Cave to Rhondarkia, it got tougher then. When I got IN to Rhondarkia I had my asshole raped in ways I didn't know were possible.

>>2609110

I'm playing through the 3DS version of VII now, though I've watched videos of certain scenes from the PSX version (never played it) and it certainly seems like it has the best English DQ localization. Bit dry at times, but that's better than what Dragon Quest gets now. I've also seen some really weird things, like Patrick talking like some weirdo whereas he just speaks like a kid in the Japanese version. And of course the translators added some things for chuckles but again, just from the handful of scenes I've watched it's nowhere near as bad as the DS games seem to be.

>> No.2610071

>>2609021
>muh grinding

Here we have a casual, playing DQ without having to gain levels to get stronger kills most of the point of the game. Go play Chrono Trigger for the story or whatever, faggot