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2566739 No.2566739 [Reply] [Original]

Post your unpopular /vr/ opinions - the kind that you are fairly certain nobody else on this board shares with you.

I think Super Mario Bros. 1 is superior to Super Mario Bros. 3.

>> No.2566747

>>2566739
I don't like nintendo, at all, I refuse to own even one of their consoles.

I own every sega console, even the pico

>> No.2566749

>>2566739
The N64 was a steaming pile of dog shit and the maybe 20 good games it had don't make up for how well it could have done as a SNES 2.0

>> No.2566752

JRPGs are the absolute bare basics of what you could call a "video game"; I have no idea why anyone spends a second on them.

>> No.2566753

I just started playing Mega Man, so I didn't really bother with the specific perception of the games, but I thought Mega Man 2 was seriously lackluster. I mean, I really like the music and the boss fights, but the stages weren't that enjoyable. Woodman was down right boring, while Quickman and Heatman were just a chore. I think the ones I enjoy the most were Air Man and Bubble Man.

>> No.2566760

>>2566749
I share this opinion
>>2566753
I also share this opinion

>> No.2566795

>>2566739
>I think Super Mario Bros. 1 is superior to Super Mario Bros. 3.
agreed

>>2566752
>JRPGs are the absolute bare basics of what you could call a "video game"; I have no idea why anyone spends a second on them.
mostly agreed with a few exceptions and qualifications

You guys seem pretty bad at this thread, you should try to be edgier

>> No.2566804

>Spyro > Banjo Kazooie
>The Genesis is the second worst Sega console
>Turn based jrpgs > Action jrpgs

>> No.2566810

>>2566804
>Spyro > Banko
yes
>sega genesis is the second worst sega console
no
>turn based > action
yes

>> No.2566817

Even not counting imports, the Saturn is the overall best 5th gen console.

>> No.2566818

Mega Man 5 was the best game out of the original 6. MM2 is overrated as shit and its music pales in comparison to 5.

>> No.2566821

I like retro games.

>> No.2566828

>>2566747
Sega had higher highs than Nintendo, that's for sure.
>>2566795
Alright, I'll try my best:
>Sonic is by far Sega's worse franchise and wasn't that great in the first place. The core mechanics are far too shallow to keep my attention. They're also, oddly enough, some of the only poor games on the Dreamcast.
>Collectathons are also barely what I would call "games". They were neat when 3D first came to the masses, but wondering around a bland environment touching shiny things doesn't pass for entertainment anymore.

>> No.2566829

I hate tetris

>> No.2566840

>>2566739
DKC3 is not worse than DKC2. It's at least a different beast.

>> No.2566852

Kirby would've been better off without the copy ability and the floating. Because the game is not only easy, but platforming is unsatisfying and combat boring. At least they look fun.

>> No.2566857

Donkey Kong 64 is a better game than Banjo

>>2566840
DKC3 is one of the best SNES games.

>> No.2566859

>>2566828
Sorry not edgy enough

I don't hate Sonic but Sega has done so much amazing stuff, it's strange that Sonic is more popular than all their other games put together

>> No.2566862

>>2566859
>Sonic is more popular than all their other games put together
Autism, anon.

>> No.2566867

>>2566747

You're not the only one who dislikes Nintendo that much.
I've been always an idort, ESPECIALLY the Sega-Nintendo days, so I always saw Nintendo and Sega as equals, I culdn't pick a side because it would be very silly of me, being a fan of Sega games, to be missing games like F-Zero back in 1991 (a game that years later would see a collaboration between Sega and Nintendo with GX).

I think it's all fanatism, but yeah, you're not the only one. In fact the internet is filled with those. Although you don't see Nintendo fanboys going "God I HATE Sega!", they'll usually spout things like "Sega? they're dead, and the Genesis had shitty graphics and sound".
It's as silly as saying "nintendo games are all for kids".

Anyway, want an unpopular opinion from me? um.. I like the Saturn better than the N64, and the N64 better than the PS1. For most people it'd be inverted.

>> No.2566870

I believe there has never been a great Sonic game, and the series was successful more so for the style and characters than for the gameplay.

>> No.2566875

>>2566829
You Monster!

>> No.2566898
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>>2566739
I Hate Final Fantasy.

The entire series of final fantasy games are boring and downright dumb. I never understood the popularity of turn based rpgs especially final fantasy.

Even though I hate the gameplay I still buy them to resell because they are popular.

>> No.2566912

Sonic's current design is way better than his classic design. His classic design worked well in old games but the new design works best overall. He's had his modern design for longer than he had his classic yet fans are still whining

Final Fantasy works better in the generic medieval/steampunk fantasy setting instead of more modern styles like FF7

The Atari Lynx had potential, as did the Jaguar.

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>>2566739
>I think Super Mario Bros. 1 is superior to Super Mario Bros. 3.

>> No.2566943

>>2566749
>>2566747
>>2566752
>>2566898
I agree with all of this.

Also trinitrons and all the grille variants look terrible.

>> No.2566956

The games industry today isn't worse. Just different. The games coming out aren't steadily worse, just different or a variation of old hat we liked in the first place otherwise they wouldn't have done it again.

>> No.2566957

Games can't age
The N64 is junk aside from a few stand out games (Maybe not unpopular on /vr/, but most would disagree)
SEGA were always better than Nintendo at making games (until the Sammy merger)
Most Nintendo games are okayish but overhyped by fanboys who don't know better because they limit themselves purely to Nintendo systems
Mario 64 is better than the SNES or NES Mario games
Rare are excellent programmers but I don't like playing any of their games except a couple

>> No.2566960

>>2566852

Well, I always drop an ability before a boss.

>> No.2566961

I think we should be able to talk about retrogame-related comics and/or fan pornography as long as it's relevant to the topic of retrogames.

>> No.2566964

>>2566752
They're the definition of video games. Anyone who doesn't like them isn't a true gamer.

>> No.2566968

I like the SMS better than the NES.
I like Sega, but find Sonic pretty mediocre.
Same with Nintendo and Mario.
I don't like EarthBound.

Pretty boring opinions.

>> No.2566978

>>2566912
> The Atari Lynx had potential, as did the Jaguar.

It's not an opinion but a fact.

>>2566957
> Most Nintendo games are okayish but overhyped by fanboys who don't know better because they limit themselves purely to Nintendo systems

But I agree with that.

>> No.2566979

>>2566957
>Games can't age
They can, in the same way any technology can age and be outdated.
>The N64 is junk aside from a few stand out games (Maybe not unpopular on /vr/, but most would disagree)
Very true
>SEGA were always better than Nintendo at making games (until the Sammy merger)
Also very true
>Most Nintendo games are okayish but overhyped by fanboys who don't know better because they limit themselves purely to Nintendo systems
This isn't even edgy, it's just a fact
>Mario 64 is better than the SNES or NES Mario games
This one will be accepted as fact in a few years considering how contrarianism is evolving.
>Rare are excellent programmers but I don't like playing any of their games except a couple
Literally the truth.

>> No.2566981

>>2566964
They suck but you're too autistic to see that.

>> No.2566984

>>2566981
>they suck
Back to /v/, kiddo.

>> No.2566985

>>2566984
Im an old man dummy

>> No.2566993

I think SoR and BK3 are way better than SoR 2 with the first title being my favourite.
Also I'm pretty sure everyone who still insists about console wars in fucking 2015 is retarded enough to don't know how to use an emulator and try a few titles from their "hated" console. There's a really really small number of consoles with absolutely nothing enjoyable.

>> No.2567002

>>2566985
Oh. Well then fair enough you don't like them.

>> No.2567008

>>2566993
>the first title being my favourite

I have literally never heard a human being say that before. What makes it your favorite? It definitely has the best music. Personally I like BK3 the best, which is another unpopular opinion.

>> No.2567015

>>2566978

Most discussions on the Lynx or Jaguar mostly just result in people laughing at them and calling them useless consoles that could never be decent

>> No.2567017

Chrono Trigger and Earthbound are meh-tier, at best. Not bad. Just meh.

N64 is fucking awful less maybe ten games it had that were worth a damn.

Castlevania 2, Zelda 1 and Eggerland: Revival of the Labyrinth are not at all cryptic (I beat Eggerland and I can't even read Japanese to get all the hints, so fuck no: it's not cryptic).

Zelda 1 is better thought out and has more replay value than all the other Zelda games combined.

The Makaimura/Ghosts'n... series are too difficult to be enjoyable. I try. I've been playing those games since I was a kiddie and the only one I've ever managed to beat was one of the arcade ones and that's because my parents owned the machine and I just had it set to free play and therefore had infinite continues.

Ristar needs a sequel (not an unpopular opinion, really, just one I've never heard anyone ever bring up, ever).

Pokemon sucks. All of them. And all its knock-offs, too.

7th Saga isn't all that difficult.

Castlevania III > Rondo.

No game will ever be as fun as Bomberman 94 or the original Smash Bros multiplayer.

Working Designs isn't so bad.

FFVII and FFVIII kinda bore me (I don't like every character being able to do everything at the same time as every other character).

Pocky and Rocky 2 is the most perfect game ever made.
That or Soldier Blade.
Or Guardian Legend.
Or Zelda 1.
Or Gunstar Heroes.
Or each of those is the most perfect game on its respective console. Except I can't decide between Z1 or GL for the NES. Decisions, decisions.
Strike that, Soldier Blade or Somer Assault.

The only series where each game released is better than the last is Quintet's Creation Trilogy.

I think that's it. Do you hate me yet, /vr/?

>> No.2567028

>>2567017
Not hate, but you do need to get some better opinions.

>> No.2567032
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I don't like a single Mega Man game. Something about the setting just never appealed to me. I did enjoy Gargoyle's Quest, however, which I think is loosely based on Mega Man's mechanics.

Ted Woolsey is a hack, and and the only reason anyone worships him is because he's a "good ol' boy" who's associated with their favorite overrated games.

Final Fantasy VI was my least favorite game in the series, and I'll never understand the appeal of Chrono Trigger. To be perfectly fair, I did play all the way through both games before putting them down and never touching them again. Even though I didn't like CT, I nonetheless thought Chrono Cross was an awesome game.

I thought Final Fantasy II was the best game in the series. It probably sounds like I'm trying to be a contrarian at this point, but I'm really not.

I've never actually polled anyone else on the matter and really have no idea what the popular consensus is, but as far as retro censorship goes, the thing that bothered me most was the removal or re-gendering of LGBT characters. For instance, Poison being swapped out with a male sprite, Ash being cut from Streets of Rage, or a lack of same-sex relationships in retro games that had romance systems. (Harvest Moon?) I'm sure some of it was just a calculated move to avoid backlash from the conservative media, but it was really unfair to throw LGBT gamers under the bus because a vocal minority didn't want to see them in any form of media.

Super Mario Bros. 3 > Super Mario World, and Yoshi's Island is the best game in the entire series. (Unless you want to count it as a spin-off, but I'd rather not get into that debate)

Zelda II is the best game in the series. I've played and completed all the retro titles, including the BS-X translations. I agree that Zelda is supposed to be more oriented toward puzzle-solving than action, but since I play a lot of action platformers, Zelda II was more up my alley than the rest of the series. The RPG mechanics were also cool.

>> No.2567036

>>2567032
Apart from that one tumblr opinion, all perfectly reasonable sentiments.

>> No.2567040

>>2567017
>7th Saga isn't all that difficult.
It isn't, it just glitches out if you happen to be overlevel.

>> No.2567047

>>2567017
Those are all pretty reasonable opinions, even if I don't aggree with all of them.

>Castlevania III > Rondo.

Very true. I don't get the hype around Rondo. Sure, it has a load of content but the gameplay is pretty uncastlevania-ish. The levels are pretty boring. Seriously, I even prefer Dracula X over Rondo.

>Pokemon sucks

True. But that might be because I was simply too old when Pokemon was the new craze.

>> No.2567069

>>2566867
>I like the Saturn better than the N64, and the N64 better than the PS1. For most people it'd be inverted.
my nigga

>> No.2567075

The top three Mario games of all time are Super Mario Bros., Super Mario World, and Super Mario 64.

>> No.2567098

>>2567036

I assume you mean my views on censorship. I didn't realize being opposed to censorship was a tumblr-esque viewpoint. Although I've never actually browser tumblr aside from the porn, a lot of anons seem to believe tumblr is full of far-left authoritarians who want to censor anything that triggers them. I wouldn't condone far-left censorship anymore than far-right censorship, so how am I being anything like tumblr?

>> No.2567103

>ristar needs a sequel
please, my nigga

>> No.2567105

>>2567032
>including the BS-X translations.
Oh man, there are not many people who can say that, what do you think about them? How do they compare to the rest?

>> No.2567120

I really hate the term "shmup"

>> No.2567123

>>2567120
Use STG then.

>> No.2567130

>>2566957
Games can't age, gamers do

>> No.2567145

>>2567017
All this is pretty disagreeable, but especially this-
>Ristar needs a sequel
God damn trite shite overrated "gotta go slow" Sanic-rip-off poor crap.

Ristar most overrated /vr/ game (<---- this is my unpopular /vr/ opinion).

>> No.2567149

I absolutely despise static turn-based combat and random encounters in RPGs unless they incorporate some kind of react/interactive gimmick like in the Mario RPGs and Mother series

Don't crucify me, I tried my best to like it. I guess it's also why I don't really like RPGs in general

>> No.2567151

>>2567149
Try Lufia II.

>> No.2567152

>>2567145
But Anon, Ristar's gameplay is entirely unlike Sonic's. Are you having yourself a giggle there, mate?

>> No.2567163

>>2567032
>Yoshi's Island
Except it's the worst.

>> No.2567167

>>2567149
>Mother series
What is interactive about the Mother series? The spinning health gauges? That's all it takes for you to turn Dragon Warrior (which you hate) into Mother (which you like)?

>> No.2567173

Beat em up games are boring

>> No.2567180

>>2567105

The original BS Zelda is just a watered-down remake of Zelda 1. There's a third quest and fourth quest variation with some original arranged maps. All in all, it's much shorter than the original game, and there are more powerful weapon and equipment upgrades that weren't in the original game. At one point, you get infinite bombs and arrows, and a boomerang that can kill darknuts. It guess it was fun for the novelty of it, and the graphics are really nice.

The Ancient Stone Tablets is just an episodic side game that recycles all the assets from Link to the Past. If you really enjoyed LttP and want another fix, then it may be up your alley.

>> No.2567181

Chrono Trigger is an incredibly dull game.

>> No.2567194

>>2567017

>Pokemon sucks. All of them. And all its knock-offs, too.

This might be a major cop out... but you really had to play the Pokemon games when you were a young kid to get the true experience.

The structure of Pokemon games is actually very compelling. You start out with essentially nothing as you begin a journey from home without any grand goals in sight. You are allowed to choose one of three starting pokemon and then you simply begin your journey with minimal direction. Along the way you capture more pokemon, fight trainers and gym leaders, encounter obstacles, gain levels and abilities. The backtracking is done almost perfectly as it really shows you how far you have come in the game and is never used to pad time. I think most importantly the game never takes you very far away from its core gameplay.

The major problem with Pokemon is that the combat is way to simple and for anyone who isn't a child the game is simply way too easy. Of course this doesn't really matter for the target audience, which IS children. I used to rail on Pokemon for not evolving but the fact is that it doesn't need to. The game is pretty much perfect for its audience.

I will occasionally play gen 1/2 out of pure nostalgia, I can't say from an adult perspective they are good games at all.

>> No.2567197

Wolf 3D is great but Doom is overrated.

>> No.2567198

Super Mario World is the worst game in the series. Shit level design, controls are too sensitive, and overall the game is devoid of challenge.

>> No.2567204

>>2566749
well at least you are posting that here instead of spamming it in another N64 thread again...

>> No.2567207

>>2567198
>and overall the game is devoid of challenge.
I agree with everything accept that.

>> No.2567212

>>2567207
except*

>> No.2567215

>>2566747
This is an incredibly popular opinion on /vr/, just not on the other video game boards here.

>> No.2567217

>>2567197
I think most people that aren't remero worshipers have realized this by now.

>> No.2567230

Donkey Kong 64 is an outstanding game.

The Legend of Zelda is the best franchise in gaming history, and Adventure of Link is its best game.

The original Metal Gear Solid has held up incredibly well.

Final Fantasy VII and VIII are the worst of the nine retro final fantasy mainline games. IX, V, and I are the best, in that order.

Perhaps the most heinous of all:

Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 is better than the first two.

>> No.2567240

>>2567167
Yes, the spinning health gauges combined with the lack of random encounters (not including Earthbound Beginnings which I have yet to play) and the "level up auto-win" feature make Mother 2 and 3 a lot more tolerable to me compared to a game such as Dragon Warrior

>> No.2567245

I think Donkey Kong Country is a terrible 2D platformer.

>> No.2567254

>>2566739
The "8th gen means Dreamcast is now retro but the rest of sixth gen isn't" rule is completely arbitrary that exists out of convenience to the creator rather than out of sound reasoning.

So unpopular the /vr/ VEHEMENTLY REFUSES to so much as consider it and brands anyone who does as [anything, throw anything at the filthy one and see what sticks].

>> No.2567259

Super Metroid is boring.

>> No.2567297

>>2567245
It's better than Super Mario World.

>> No.2567321

People who consider Ocarina of Time to objectively be the best game of all time are not wrong.

>> No.2567327

>>2567321

i agree with this since the only argument i hear is that it's old and a new game deserves the title

>> No.2567339

>>2567245

I love DKC 1-3, but I can understand why someone might feel that way. It's not a complicated 2D platformer. Jump on and over enemies. Pick up and throw barrels. Climb and swing on ropes. Ride a few creatures and get launched by barrels. Some speed mini-games. That's it. There are extraordinarily few alternate paths. It's not particularly difficult.

To me it is more of an experience than a game. It has a great art style and music.

>> No.2567382

>>2567240
>a lot more tolerable to me compared to a game such as Dragon Warrior
I absolutely, completely agree with you, but you must also realize that Dragon Warrior and Mother are the same *exact* game except for the things you mentioned and the setting of the game

>> No.2567384

this might be more of a /v/ opinion, but I hate all Nintendo consoles, after the SNES. I would play all of their games all day, if they were on a Playstation, or something.

>> No.2567396

>>2567254
"retro" is not a date. its a style and business model of gaming that died with the PS2 and Xbox. The Dreamcast had no annually released, multi-million dollar budgeted blockbuster games. it had no grimdark third-person action games or sci-fi FPSs. the Dreamcast was the last system that was gimmick based games (Jet Set Radio, Virtual On), arcade games, shmups, and platformers. the stuff that filled game libraries for decades, and are now largely gone. those games were quirky and weird and required skills.

just like "classic rock" is a specific set of bands and a specific sound from a distinct era, "retro gaming" is a specific set of consoles.

>> No.2567406

>>2567396
Per your definition, how's the GameCube not retro, then?

>> No.2567407

>>2567017
I think Working Designs is fantastic. its why I like companies headed by psychotic zealots. Vic Ireland brought out the best Japan had to offer, and everything American companies could not give half a shit about. I have Magic Knight Rayearth on my Saturn, and Working Designs has my undying devotion

>> No.2567408

>>2566739
CRTs are for autists

>> No.2567414

>>2566859
>>2566862
actually Sonic's popular because of all the money Sega spends on marketing

>> No.2567417

I'm sure some people here share my opinions, but whatever:
I'm not a fan of exceptionally hard games.
I sometimes find seeing/playing the development process of games (such as playing prototypes or reading things on TCRF or seeing proto carts) to be just as interesting if not more interesting than playing finished games.
I prefer the look and design of the Famicom to the US NES, despite having grown up with and still owning a good old toaster, "hard wired" controllers included.
Despite using RGB most of the time, I can still play a game with RF.
A lot of the fun I get from game carts/CDs comes from having them complete.
I do not like having new collectors drive up prices.

>> No.2567420

>>2566912
>Sonic's current design is way better than his classic design.

triggered.png

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>>2566912
I really like the artwork used around SA1/2, kinda reminds me of Jet Set Radio.

>> No.2567530

Final fantasy 8 is the best entry.

Chrono cross is better than CT

If you can't enjoy modern games, you have issues

Saga frontier isn't very enjoyable

>> No.2567548

>>2567230
>Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 is better than the first two.
First opinion to actually upset me, bravo

>> No.2567550

>>2567530
>If you can't enjoy modern games, you have issues
Is this unpopular?

>> No.2567553

>>2567530
>>2567548
Dunno, but I'm somehow in the middle. There are of course good modern games, but bland level design and downgraded mechanics decrease the amount of games which I can enjoy massively.

>> No.2567558

The controls of Super Mario Bros 3/World are terrible. Mario's momentum is so strange and the jumping is so floaty and it just feels awful.

>> No.2567559

>>2567254

You're that guy that was shitting up the DC thread, aren't you?

>> No.2567596

>>2566957
>The N64 is junk aside from a few stand out games
Yeah, but those stand out games were really fuckin' something.

>> No.2567606

99% of RPGs, especially turn-based RPGs, make me want to stab my eyes out. I have no idea why it's such a beloved genre.

>> No.2567612

>>2567606
As an avid RPG fan I can understand this. I have to be in a very different mood to play an RPG than say, a platformer or something. I usually play them before going to sleep or something like that, very relaxing.

>> No.2567637

Chrono Trigger is easily the worst RPG Square ever made.

>> No.2567679

The N64 controller was the best ever designed.

> comfy fit
> analog stick perfectly placed with trigger underneath
> octagon shape under analog stick to help you move in a straight line
> 6 face buttons for dem fighters

>> No.2567692

>>2567408
>this post
>on this board
Oh lawdy. That being said, I do agree

>> No.2567701

>>2567437
this is unpopular, alright

>> No.2567704

>>2567679
...what fighters? the ones that didn't benefit from a 6 button layout, or those that did, like the capcom fighters that weren't at all on the n64?

>> No.2567707

>>2567704
Ki gold nigga

>> No.2567709

>>2567550
People on /vr/ fucking hate modern games.
>tfw I play more modern then retro, I just like how this place is slightly more video game focused then /v/

>> No.2567712

PS1 is only semi retro if the game was 2D. Ditto for Saturn.

N64 is not retro.

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>>2567707
I see, I stand corrected: I thought it was 4 button. that's just one game, though. are there any others?

>> No.2567718

I like Gen 6 and think it should be allowed on the board.

>> No.2567729

I like Sonic3&Knuckles more than Sonic2, the gameplay feels better.

>> No.2567740

Super Mario World is the worst of the 2D Marios, not including the educational ones or Hotel Mario.

The controls feel too loose and the level design feels too inconsistent. I could have a lot of trouble on a level and just breeze through the next one. Whenever I play it, I get bored quickly as opposed to 3, 1, or even 2. Hell, I'd rather play Yoshi's Island.

>> No.2567742

Yoshi's Island is awful. The music isn't horrible, but it isn't a good game at all. I remember when the game was released, but I never knew ANYONE considered it a good game until like 10 years ago. It really surprised me.

The only positive thing I can think about it is that it allowed Panel De Pon to get localized as Tetris Attack.

>> No.2567745

>>2566739
Fairly popular opinion actually, just not a majority one.

>>2566747
VERY common opinion on this board and on the internet in general.

>>2566749
Probably the majority opinion.

>>2566752
Probably the majority opinion among gamers in general.

>>2566817
Actually really popular opinion on this board, though still a small minority.

>>2566829
Lots of people do.

>>2566898
Most people do.

>>2566956
Common opinion.

>>2566961
99% of /vr/ agrees with you.

>>2566993
SoR 1 is easily as popular as 2 among the general public.

>>2567017
Most of these are semi-popular opinions.

>>2567075
Fairly popular opinion.

>>2567120
Very popular opinion.

>>2567173
Most gamers agree.

>>2567181
Most people agree.

>>2567245
A lot of people agree. Miyamoto hated it.

>>2567254
6th gen should be /vr/ and 99% of this board knows it. Your post is not an unpopular opinion at all.

>>2567321
Popular opinion.

>>2567384
Common opinion.

>>2567606
Fairly popular opinion.

>>2567718
Most people do.


ITT: /vr/ HAS NO IDEA WHAT "UNPOPULAR" MEANS.

>> No.2567749

Gex is a better platformer than sonic 1
Almost all of the Ultima games are boring as fuck
Everquest is a horrible MMO even for back then
Dracula X is one of the best castlevania games even if it is a butchered port, I had more fun with it than IV
Mario 64 is a shitty game the camera ruins it

>> No.2567750

>>2566739
I think the Resident Evil series is overrated as a whole.

>> No.2567751

>>2567745
I fucking hate these threads.

>> No.2567753

I think Freedom Planet is better than S3&K.

I think GBA should be considered /vr/ by next year.

Also idk maybe it's just me, but something about American games on PC/Consoles probably up until Wolfenstein came out. They just feel kinda lame compared to the arcade and console games of that era, and idk what it is. Maybe it's a character design or gameplay thing idk. I don't really like RPGs and Strategy games in general no matter where they're from.

>> No.2567757

/vr/ should just become video games -alternative with an emphasis on retro, because honestly, all we get are the same fucking threads over and over.

Recent Pickup threads should be allowed, but 1 thread at a time.

Emulator vs. Collecting threads should result in an auto-ban

GBA and PS2 generations should be considered retro.

Sega has never had a good console and everytime I hear a sega fanboy raving about it I report and hide their posts (see: more confession then opinion).

Sega fanboys are also super fucking vocal.

Playstation is the only good brand thats left. Nintendo has gone to the shitter past SNES, Sega was never good, and Xbox was completely irrelevant outside of some really, really good games (Gun valkyrie, Ninja Gaiden: Black), and a couple of decent exclusives.

Anything vs. Anything threads are just trollbait and should be deleted.

Reseller threads should be deleted.

>> No.2567758

>>2567254
>>2567745
>So unpopular the /vr/ VEHEMENTLY REFUSES to so much as consider it and brands anyone who does as anything, throw anything at the filthy one and see what sticks].
>6th gen should be /vr/ and 99% of this board knows it. Your post is not an unpopular opinion at all.

So you believe that Persona 4 should be allowed to be discussed on /vr/?

Why even have /vr/ at all?

>> No.2567761

>>2567745
Fairly actually popular most lots easily common majority not unpopular OPINION

>> No.2567764

The US TV manufacturers hindered all of us by refusing to embrace SCART/RGB from the late 70s onwards (insisting on using composite), and eventually even damaged european TV standards as a result in the long term.

>> No.2567765

GBA is retro. It's a 32 bit machine filled with side scrollers, jrpgs, shmups and overall a great library.
GBA is MORE Retro than PSX, N64, Saturn and Dreamcast.

>> No.2567767

>>2567761
Are you having a stroke?

>> No.2567768

>>2567757
>Sega fanboys are also super fucking vocal.
They're maybe 1/10th as vocal as Nintendo fanboys.

>> No.2567769

>>2567761
Probably opinion fairly

>> No.2567776

>>2566829
What's wrong with you?

>>2566968

>I don't like EarthBound.

My favorite game ever. I guess everyone has their own opinion...

I don't like any Banjo-Kazooie game.

>>2567163
I liked it.

>>2567173
Absolutely, although I like River City Ransom and Turtles in Time

>>2567321
Made me vomit a little. Sick opinion.

>> No.2567789

>>2566979
All of this.

>> No.2567802

>>2567768
>>Sega fanboys are also super fucking vocal.
>They're maybe 1/10th as vocal as Nintendo f
Nintendo fanboys have nothing to prove. Sega fanboys are basically the chronically offended /vr/ troopers. Their console is dead and Sega hasn't made a good game in years.

>> No.2567824

The tube in maridia was bad game design.

>> No.2567828

I really don't care much for Chrono Trigger.

The Genesis/SNES generation was one of the fucking best for gaming all around, great games on two great systems. I don't see how we're still arguing about which one was better, when it was just about the ONLY fucking generation with two leading consoles with different, but great games.

Dragon Warrior 4 and 7 are my favorite JRPGs of all time. Really don't care for what came after, but not retro.

I think Super Mario World is the best Mario game, with Sonic 2 being the best Sonic game.

I like the first Metroid the most, though it's mostly nostalgia speaking. Super is amazing, but way too easy. Metroid 1 I spent fucking weeks getting lost and exploring when I was a kid.

>> No.2567838

>>2567207
The only time SMW ever approaches "challenging" is Tubular, and that's only because power-ups won't help you.

>> No.2567839

Ocarina of Time is boring and overrated

Mario 64 looks like garbage and has the worst controls of any Mario game I've ever played

The Final Fantasy games bore the shit out of me

I've had more fun with point and clicks than I have with most action rpgs

NES Friday the 13th was really not that bad

>> No.2567843

The NES is the greatest console ever and Battletoads is its best game.

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>>2567843
Alright. Okay.

>> No.2567851

>>2567417
>I do not like having new collectors drive up prices.
Nobody likes it but the resellers.

>> No.2567854

>>2567757
>everytime I hear a sega fanboy raving about it I report and hide

Pretty big asshole-move. Surprsied you aren't banned, to be honest. What do you expect, anyway? Surely not that a mod will delete that post?

>> No.2567862

The worst thing to happen to this board, it's the amount of times people point other users to go to /v/, sometimes over petty things like having a different opinion.

>> No.2567869

I consider people who complain about tank controls to be either brain damaged or just parroting other people.

>> No.2567890

>>2567406
tbh, as I was typing that I thought "what about the Gamecube?" Personally, I don't know if /vr/ excludes it, or not. maybe it is past the cutoff date?

honestly, I think the DC gets a pass, on this board, because it sits in such a weird place in the timeline, and /v/ won't talk about it. still, it does present a much different experience than the PS2 and Xbox, what with all the wacky Sega games. the system just feels more connected to the 90's than the 00's

probably what killed it, honestly.

>> No.2567892

>>2567869
That's not an unpopular opinion. It's truth.

>> No.2567998

Chrono Trigger's only good because of Mitsuda, all the rest is inane bullshit and Cross is a much better game in all possible ways.

Hagane is better than Ninja Gaiden

Final Fantasy II is the best Final Fantasy ever made, all the rest is a huge mistake.

Dragon Quest is a pretty bland and anonymous series that contributed nothing to the JRPG genre

Eye of the Beholder is a pile of crap

Street Fighter was never good

Castlevania 4 is better than Rondo

Snatcher and Policenauts are crap, though Policenauts at least makes a few interesting points unlike Snatcher.

Live A Live is the next Earthbound in terms of hipster cred and it's not as good a game as people say while it does have its merits.

Front Mission:Gun Hazard>Assault Suits Valken

F-Zero is a pile of junk

The Parodius games are by average better than the Gradius games

Gaiares isn't all that difficult

Apogee Software>Id

People who say that real time games are inherently better and more difficult than turn based games are the cancer that's killing /vr/

Hudson Soft made only a handful of good games, all the rest is boring shit that only Hudson fanboys can defend.

Shadowrun was never good.

Roguelikes are by far one of the best RPG genre

Unreal>Doom

>> No.2568028

>>2566739
>You did not enjoy the Sega Genesis unless you played all of your games with an official Genesis stick.

>Splatterhouse is the best beat 'em up of it's time

>Only casuals think Nintendo 64 has more than 5 pros over the PlayStaion
-no need of a multi-tap
-no loading times
-better polygon rendering but shit textures
-6 face buttons
-RareWare

>Battle Arena Toshinden was a shit series

>Crash Bandicoot was the best platformer of it's generation

>RareWare's Donkey Kong games were shit

>Smash Bros. 64 was a mistake

>Quake over Doom

>Dreamcast never stood a chance even if it were not for Sega's previous mistakes

might post more later

>> No.2568073

>>2568028
Everyone knows Battle Arena Toshinden was shit. That's not even controversial in the slightest.

>> No.2568074

>>2567998
>The Parodius games are by average better than the Gradius games


Very true.

>> No.2568120

The PS2 and other consoles came out over a decade ago. They are retro consoles. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't old.

>> No.2568139

>>2568120
is supernatural a retro tv show? is batman begins retro flick? know the difference between old and retro, faggot

>> No.2568141

>>2568120
>over a decade ago
>They are retro consoles
What's a kid like you even doing here?

>> No.2568160

>>2566739
I only have one.
im sick of fans and their opinion on a series.
i like stuff too but when something is not objectively done right i know that is not done right and i don't act like i don't see it.
Why you people are trying to find deeper meaning and argue over things that are not in the series,there are no implications about something and yet you say it like its the biggest misery.
These people should eat shit and kill themselves.
this goes for Silent Hill fans,FF fans,F.e.a.r. and blade runner fans that are not related to this board.

>> No.2568172

>>2568073
that's not what I heard

>> No.2568190

>>2566739
Die By The Sword exists.

>> No.2568217

I like 80's home computers a lot more than game consoles.
I pretty much have no interest in game consoles after the Sega Genesis.
I don't like the way the computer industry became a monoculture, compared to what it was in the 80's. I ended up running Linux instead of Windows 95, just so I could have my "ye olde days" hobbyist feels. It wasn't a good as the 80's though, and x86 machines never were as nice as Amiga for me.

>> No.2568221

>>2566968
>I like the SMS better than the NES.
Well, it's a really cool system. The sound is not so great though.

>> No.2568230

I really only play job exclusive games.

>> No.2568232

>>2568217
>I don't like the way the computer industry became a monoculture, compared to what it was in the 80's. I ended up running Linux instead of Windows 95, just so I could have my "ye olde days" hobbyist feels. It wasn't a good as the 80's though, and x86 machines never were as nice as Amiga for me.

ITT: A teenager finds his uncle's Amiga in the attic and wishes he were there in 1988

>> No.2568251

1. People who are primarily into retro stuff for nostalgia are cancer
2. I do not find the FPS genre on the whole compelling or interesting
3. The N64 was a dud of a system that relied completely on Nintendo and Rareware for games
4. PVMfags are clinically autistic

>> No.2568256

>>2567032
>I've never actually polled anyone else on the matter and really have no idea what the popular consensus is, but as far as retro censorship goes, the thing that bothered me most was the removal or re-gendering of LGBT characters. For instance, Poison being swapped out with a male sprite, Ash being cut from Streets of Rage, or a lack of same-sex relationships in retro games that had romance systems. (Harvest Moon?) I'm sure some of it was just a calculated move to avoid backlash from the conservative media, but it was really unfair to throw LGBT gamers under the bus because a vocal minority didn't want to see them in any form of media.

I want Tumblr to leave.

>> No.2568258

>>2568232
It's not like that at all. There's a few other 40+ year olds like me on this board. Just head on over to the "70s to early 90's computers general" to meet the gang. You probably will be bored quickly though unless you grew up in or around the same era.

>> No.2568262

>>2568251
>4. PVMfags are clinically autistic

fuck you, I wish I had a PVM for proper resolution scaling and perfect colors. oh wait, that's the point of this thread, nice one.

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>>2568258
>There's a few other 40+ year olds like me on this board
Pic related. This is you. Only thing missing are the MLP plushies on the desk.

>> No.2568269

>>2568258
>Just head on over to the "70s to early 90's computers general" to meet the gang. You probably will be bored quickly though unless you grew up in or around the same era.

Now, this is what we refer to on /vr/ as a "cancer" post. Why? Because of the following reasons:

1. Trying to stir up an age war - "Hurr my childhood games r better than yr childhood games"
2. Attempting to segregate the board by age and force people to only discuss their childhood games
3. Making assumptions about people who browse the retro computer general when it's an anonymous board
4. Telling people to not post in the general and acting as if it's your special oldfag sekrit club
5. Basically having a /v/ attitude about yourself

>> No.2568270

>>2566739

I think 16bit games look and play really shitty. Never liked SNES and whatever Sega shat out for competition. Super Metroid is the only game I like in that era.

>> No.2568274

>>2567194

pokemon is shitty because all you do is fight the same trainer variants with same shitty pokemans

it gets tedious fast

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>>2568269
That wasn't nice...

>> No.2568279

>>2568276
Well soooorrrry, but you shouldn't have posted /v/ flamebait like >>2568258.

>> No.2568281

>>2568279
I was not posting flamebait, dickface. I was saying go the fuck to the 70s-90s computer thread and there are many among us oldfags there.

>> No.2568282

It's just as well. Like all generals, that thread is mainly meant to warehouse cancer.

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>>2566739
I play good games on nearly all consoles. No nintendo/sega etc war here. I'm a fan of content and I've found gems on most platforms.

I also prefer emulation because of save states. I'm an adult with responsibilities and don't have time to play a particularly pain in the ass level 30 times in order to "git gud."

>> No.2568286

>>2568269
Good point. I was born in 89 so I would have been a kid during the 5th gen, but I always found those games meh. But I do have a soft spot for the 8-bit era.

>> No.2568292

>>2568286
Now this is the real cancer. Another pathetic lebornintheronggeneration faggot nutriding an era of gaming he wasn't even alive for. The video game equivalent of autists who go on Youtube and wish they were alive in 1971 to see Led Zeppelin at their peak.

>> No.2568293

>>2568286
I think the same way, but swap the gens around. With a a couple exceptions, I found the 3rd gen to be pretty "meh" in comparison to the 4th and 5th gens.

>> No.2568295

>>2568293
You're only thinking that because the 3rd gen was a Nintendo monoculture.

>> No.2568297

>>2568295
>>2568286
Personally, I find the Genesis to have a bit more interesting library than the SNES which was dominated by franchises that failed to live up to their NES predecessors.

>> No.2568301

If you haven't beaten the game on the real hardware, it's cheating.

>> No.2568302

>>2568292
See >>2568269

"I call 'em like I see 'em."

-- Casey Stengel

>> No.2568303

The quality of a game is completely independent of how good or bad other games in the series/genre are.

>> No.2568304

>>2568297
How so? The Genny didn't have an equivalent of Final Fantasy 4-6 and no sorry Phantasy Star isn't that good.

>> No.2568305

>>2568295
Uh, no? A decent amount of NES games are among those "couple exceptions", and I still recognize how influential that gen was to the modern game industry as a whole.

>> No.2568308

>>2568304
W/e. If you're a weeaboo, you'll like the SNES. But aside from Square's games, most franchises became shittier. Mario, Castlevania, Ghosts and Goblins, Dragon Quest, Mega Man, etc.

>> No.2568309

>>2568269
Fuck you, man. I posted my opinions and that's all this thread is about. Next time don't attack my opinions. You're the only asshole here.

>> No.2568312

Genesis had lots of neat arcade ports, the good version of Aladdin, and many weird, different cult games like Toejam & Earl. Having said that, I was never a big Sonic fan and that franchise was good for about 2-1/2 games at most

>> No.2568315

>>2568312
>and many weird, different cult games like Toejam & Earl

Cult classics I meant to say.

>> No.2568316
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A lot of old western-developed arcade/action games of the 80s' & 90's are mediocre at best, godawful at worst. Those bland-looking platformers with boring level design, slippery controls, and shitty boss fights, if any at all. They often spend more time on the overly-detailed graphics and music than polishing up the gameplay and design. There are a few good ones like the DKC games & Soccer Kid but the bad far outweighs the good imo.

And while we're at it, outside of Hydroah, westerners can't make Shmups to save their lives. Euroshmups just fucking suck.

Amiga & C64 games on average are shit and inferior to their Japanese contemporaries on platforms like the MSX & Sharp X68000 machines. The latter two system's library put the top-rated Amiga & C64 games to shame. I never found SID all that great outside of demoscene stuff. AY-3-8910 alone sounds better.

I fucking hate Working Designs' localizations and any others who attempt to ape that style. I personally wish the games in their catalog were retranslated from the ground up and given new localizations. I'm by no means saying they should be given TV-Nihon-tier translations though, where every other word is intentionally left untranslated accompanied by pointless TL notes & shit.

Super Turrican 1 & Mega Turrican are the only good games in the entire series. The first two have aged like milk.

Virgin's Aladdin is a highly overrated and mediocre platformer. The only thing it has going for it are the graphics and presentation. Snes version plays better despite being one of Capcom's weaker Disney efforts.

Even with it's flaws, RetroArch/Libretro is the best thing to happen to emulation and it mops the floor with the original standalones, even if it can be a royal pain to use sometimes.

6th-gen console discussion should be allowed here, or at least PS2 minimum, given it's borderline retro selection of certain games.

>> No.2568320

>>2568316
>Amiga & C64 games on average are shit and inferior to their Japanese contemporaries on platforms like the MSX & Sharp X68000 machines.

Assassinate yourself, weeaboo.

>> No.2568321

>>2568320
>weeaboo
>>>/v/

>> No.2568326

>Be me
>Born in 82
>Inherit older brothers Commodore 64 and Atari 2600.
>Had NES and SNES as a kid.
>Got my first job at 14.
>Had me some money.
>Owned another 9 different consoles before graduating in 2000 and had like 3 duplicates.
>Still own all of them.
>Took care of and repaired my shit.
>Now I only bring one down when the emulation for a particular system or game sucks ass.


I emulate most things despite most likely owning the game and console...

Hate me cause you aint me.

>> No.2568328

>>2568326
Dude nice where can I subscribe to your epic blog.

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Kid Chameleon was the best platformer for the Genesis.

SCIV < Rondo of Blood < Castlevania Chronicles

Comix Zone sucks gameplay wise.

Mario 2 is the best of the NES trio, with 3 close behind.

>> No.2568331

>>2568321
Dude, dude, dude. You are a weeaboo faggot who has a katana you bought at the local flea market and 45 boxes of Pocky Sticks littering the room and a moeshit wallpaper on your PC's desktop.

And no, the x68000 isn't better than the Amiga unless you like playing Wizardry and Super High School Dating Sim Boku. Also...

>MSX
Really, nigger? Colecovision with a keyboard is superior to C64/Amiga?

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>>2568316
>A lot of old western-developed arcade/action games of the 80s' & 90's are mediocre at best, godawful at worst.
Funny, I think the opposite. I liked a lot of the western developed platformers of the 80's and 90's a lot more than the most of the Japanese developed ones, with a handful of exceptions.

>I fucking hate Working Designs' localizations and any others who attempt to ape that style.
I like most of them as well. They have a lot of personality added to them and have a pretty cartoony vibe to them, which I really liked. Anyways, it ain't like the original nipnog script was that great to begin with anyways.

>> No.2568335

I enjoy Square's DQ mobile ports.

Dragon Quest as a whole always seems to get the better turnout when it comes to ports/remakes. It's like they purposely save the Enix content for after FF fucks up.

>> No.2568336

>>2568331
lmao I wasn't ever the guy you replied to I just though you'd like to be with the other children who cry about people having different opinions and love memes

>> No.2568340

>>2568331
Actually it would be pretty damn easy to port most X68000 games to the Amiga as they share a CPU.

>> No.2568341

>>2568328
When I'm driving my ferrari in the hollywood hills... look at my BOOKS! I'm more proud of these :)

>> No.2568343

>>2568341
nice epic i like it

>> No.2568353

Although I respect his work for actually bringing over titles and doing a decent job of FFVI over 30 days with SNAFUs everywhere, Ted Woolsey is overrated. Anyone complaining about a translation job tuning down things like Frog for the sake of MUH CHARMS is retarded. The only thing I'll concede to is that Woolsey Uncensored is better than the straight GBA/mobile job.

>>2568316
>I fucking hate Working Designs' localizations and any others who attempt to ape that style. I personally wish the games in their catalog were retranslated from the ground up and given new localizations. I'm by no means saying they should be given TV-Nihon-tier translations though, where every other word is intentionally left untranslated accompanied by pointless TL notes & shit.

I agree with this. I'll go as far to say WD ruined Lunar and Vanguard Bandits for me. At least Alundra wasn't as bad.

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>>2568331
>Really, nigger? Colecovision with a keyboard is superior to C64/Amiga?
It's all about the games, anon. Sure, most of the games aren't as flashy as the C64 alone, but many of them play and sound better. Most of the offerings, at least on MSX1, remind me of early-ish Famicom/NES offerings, most of which were pretty decent, and click with me better as a result.
>Colecovision with a keyboard
>Forgetting MSX2 & TurboR exists

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>>2567998
>Snatcher and Policenauts are crap
nigga i'mma stab the fuck outta you

>> No.2568381

>>2568316
The first half of your post isn't an unpopular opinion.

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>>2568353

>> No.2568449

Almost all older games are shit and people view them with nostalgia goggles too often.

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>>2568449

>> No.2568465

>>2566739
I dont like Pokemon, i never "got it", i actually owned the green version, and while it seemed like an intersting game at first, to me it was too repetitive and boring.

I think the best handheld Metroid game is Metroid II, i dont know if this is an unpopular opinion, but i consider it to be an excelent game, i find it more fun than Metroid fusion and Zero Mission.

Megaman Legends 2 is the best game in the whole franchise, the gameplay is great the levels and bosses are ver imaginative and it has so much replay value, on the plus side the story is great too,back in the day many of my friends had the opinion that it was a cheap zelda clone with robots, i consider it to be superior than the N64 Zelda games.

Marvel vs Capcom: Clash of Superheroes is the best fighting game ever made, and by this i mean is the overall best, as it appeals so well to both to hardcore fight gamers, and casual gamers without dumbing it down too much (like MvC3).

Ghost n Goblins is hard because the controlls suck.

>> No.2568473

>>2568465
>i don't like pokemon
not unpopular
>best handheld metroid is metroid 2
not unpopular
>MM2 legends best in franchise
not unpopular either
>mvc is the best fighting game
if you have ADD but not unpopular
>GNG is hard because the controls suck.
git gud

>> No.2568476

>>2568374
Come at me fag.

Tell me one redeeming feature of those colossal mountains of bad hollywood rip offs, the writing is beyond terrible, the plots are predictable, boring, cliched shit, the music is barely noticeable, the shooting segments are a complete joke, the point and click elements don't even let you explore or give you different paths to proceed to the game, you just have to click on everything on the screen and read all that outrageously bad writing and there's not even a single original or well done idea in any of the two, especially Policenauts which gives all those nice insights about how actually unfeasible it would be life on a space colony but NEVER FUCKING ELABORATES ON THAT IDEA BECAUSE JONATHAN IS TOO BUSY LOOKING AT TITS AND ASSES.


Literally the only reason to care about those is that the voice acting in Policenauts is admittedly superb and if you like Kojima it's fun to see all the stuff he recycled from those games and put into Metal Gear.

>> No.2568486

>>2568473
The game for ADD people would be UMVC3

>> No.2568492

>>2568465
>MML2 superior to Majora's Mask

Nigga you crazy?

>> No.2568498

>>2568476
But he didn't put them into metal gear, metal gear was on the MSX

>> No.2568505

>>2566739
Every console nintendo amde after the NES is an badly developed piece of shit hardware with bottlenecks everywhere.

>> No.2568506

>>2568486
Ah yeah that's what I've played, so I guess I gotta try out the first, is the first on Saturn by anychance

>> No.2568507

>>2568505
Also the NEO-GEO was the best console of the 16 bit era, its only flaw was the four button peripherals.

>> No.2568509

>>2568507
Why are you missing 2 fingers?

>> No.2568510

>>2568506
its on dreamcast and it was a perfect port, on saturn is Marvel Super Heores vs Street Fighter, wich is also an arcade perfect port and has better music IMO

>> No.2568513

Could never get into Mario. Not really sure why but I just get bored playing his game. I also think he might have ADHD or some form of autism by the way he acts.

Always saw Mega Man and Castlevania as superior platformers.

>> No.2568517

>>2568509
i mean that 6 button controllers are the perfect ones, nintendo got it right there though

>> No.2568520

i hate the lack of decent 2d games on 5th generation home consoles, i mean Symphony of the Night showed that 2d games could have beautifull, smooth and full of motion sprites.

>> No.2568523

>>2568498
Oh come on Anon, you know what I mean, Meryl, white blood and all that stuff, is there really a need for me to specify "from Metal Gear Solid onwards"?

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>>2568513
i couldnt agree more

>> No.2568530

>>2568492
Well, MM is a decent continuation of OoT, but it's it's not much of anything else aside from that.

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2568531

>>2568507
Expensive as all fuck though. I'm not disagreeing but growing up there was only 1 kid in the neighborhood that owned one. He'd incessantly talk shit as he whooped our ass in games he had hundred of hours of experience in that we more often than not never played before. He later replicated that same behavior when his parents bought him a $45,000 dollar car when he turned 16. It's not so much jealousy these days (it was a bit at the time.) I genuinely pity him. I see him on fb these days trying to find petty ways to prove he is better than others. He's one of the loneliest people I know and everyone from the neighborhood makes more money than he does these days. "That kid" is who I think of when I hear the words neo geo.

>> No.2568537

>>2566752
bare basics? this is complete bullshit. RPGs have a central role in video game genres and not just because they combine some genres.

>> No.2568539

The Sonic games all suck and I hate that hedgehog!

>> No.2568542

>>2568537
u removed the J. the difference here is key

>> No.2568543

>>2568539
Hello, Dr. Robotnik.

>> No.2568547

>>2568542
Not him but if you seriously think JRPG aren't videogames you should probably stop playing videogames altogether.

>> No.2568548

>>2568520
But I thought that's where the Saturn shined.

>> No.2568549

>>2568542
well, no. that's not what I mean. it may be so that JRPGs are more formulaic and repetitive but western RPGs don't really exceed doing that either. JRPGs use wizardry dungeoncrawlers as a base-concept.

>> No.2568556

>>2568537
I agree. Complete and utter bullshit.

>> No.2568559

>>2568531
what the fuck man

>> No.2568567

>>2568549
>>2568542
I mainly enjoy the stories and rewards that come from time spent. RPG's are generally the kind of games one can still enjoy when they aren't up for games that require all of their attention every second of game play. I find them relaxing. Hit the mute button on the game, listen to some good music, and just chill the fuck out.

>> No.2568568

>>2568559
o.O what did I do?

>> No.2568570

>>2568548
but most of those games where released only in japan :(

>> No.2568573

>>2568570
stop being lazy and learn moonrunes

>> No.2568576

>>2568573
i plan to, i already speak spanish, english and portuguese

>> No.2568578

third strike is over rated

>> No.2568582

>>2568578
Super SF II Turbo is overrated

>> No.2568593

>I don't like [popular thing]

Oh, but aren't we so full of special snowflakes in here

>> No.2568597
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>>2568578
>>2568582
Street Fighter in general is overrated.

>> No.2568603

>>2567998
>Street Fighter was never good
you were probably just bad at it

>> No.2568604

>>2568576
Learn another one and become multilingual instead of trilingual, that's no excuse.

I know english, german, japanese, chinese, and norwegian. lrn2lrn faggot

>> No.2568609

Cheetahmen is my favorite NES game

>> No.2568623

>>2568582

third strike and alpha 3 are names people spout out when they pretend to know what they're talking about w/fighting games

>> No.2568626

3D platformers peaked well after the heyday of the N64, around 2003 or 2004.

Crash Bandicoot > Banjo Kazooie.

>> No.2568630

>>2568626

Crash bandicoot is shit. Ot at the very least incredibly overrated.

Jumping Flash is the superior PS1 3D platformer series.

>> No.2568654

>>2568630
>Jumping Flash is the superior PS1 3D platformer series.
Meh. In concept it's pretty interesting but the overall execution it's pretty wonky.

I also really like CB because of how well it blended traditional platforming elements into a 3D space, for the most part. As for B-K I still prefer Mario 64 over it though the former's graphically superior.

>> No.2568658

>>2568623
Night Warriors: Darkstalkers' Revenge is a better game than SF Alpha 3 and Third Strike

>> No.2568670

>>2567254
>arbitrary
Of course it's arbitrary. Any division between "retro" and "non-retro" is going to be arbitrary. Some people think sixth gen should be allowed on /vr/ now that they are two cycles old. Others think that fifth generation shouldn't be allowed here because that's when 3D consoles were released. The point is, you have to set a cutoff somewhere or this board will become /v/2.0.

Dreamcast should be allowed on this board because:
1. It was released before 2000. Easier to follow only one arbitrary cutoff instead of two.
2. It was discontinued in 2001, before the N64 and the PS.
3. It is much harder to discuss the Dreamcast on /v/ than the rest of sixth gen. The Dreamcast was a console without a board to call home before /vr/ allowed it.

>> No.2568680

>>2568670
Not arbitrary at all.

Pre-1995: retro
1995 and on: not retro

At least that's my wish. I think /vr/ would be so much better with that rule.

>> No.2568682

>>2566810
Fucking this.

>> No.2568684

>>2568670
the ps2 should be considered retro by now i mean it was release 15 years ago.

>> No.2568691

>>2568680
Not arbitrary at all.

Pre-1977: retro
1977 and on: not retro

At least that's my wish. I think /vr/ would be so much better with that rule.

>> No.2568695

>>2568654
On the contrary, I love the execution of Jumping Flash (1 and 2). The controls are good and for once, it's game in first person that implements GOOD jumping controls and mechanics.

Doing a high double or triple jump and free falling, calculating where to fall felt fucking great

I played Crash 2 a lot back in the day, I found it dull. Although okay, maybe it's not shit, but it's mediocre.

I also never liked Banjo-Kazooie really. I had it as a kid and traded it in for Star Wars Racer and it was one of the best decisions I made back in the day.
I actually enjoyed DK64 more than Banjo. but Rare's best games in that era weren't the platformers IMO.

>> No.2568697

>>2568680
That means saturn would be retro, i'm down

>> No.2568702

>>2568697
the playstation too

only the n64 wouldn't be retro

>> No.2568709

>>2568670
>The Dreamcast was a console without a board to call home before /vr/ allowed it.

No, not really. There have been Dreamcast threads since the dawn of /v/, full of people patting themselves on the back for being special snowflakes who appreciate an "obscure" system. Expressing a love for Dreamcast was the precursor to wearing t-shirts with NES controllers on them. These snowflakes eventually went on to form /vr/, where the Dreamcast was initially disallowed despite being released before 2000 and discontinued in 2001.

>> No.2568710

>>2568680

The problem is that, while PS1 launched in 1994 in Japan, it didn't started getting a good catalogue until '97 or so. In 1995, if you had a PS1 you were stuck with shit like some soccer games, ports of boring strategy games from PC that are just awful to play with a PS controller (and remember, no dualshock controllers until 1998, 97 in Japan) and fuck else. Oh Battle Arena Toshinden, great... not.

In 1995, if you weren't burning your Genesis and SNES with the loads of great games that were being released, you were a retard.

What does all this means? That if we set the rules to 1995 to be the cut, it will generate endless shitposts about people discussing the same generation (5th), but the N64 will be taken out because 1996. You can't expect people to discuss the whole 5th generation without console war shitposting, so it's pointless, N64 would be discussed all the same, and the shitposting will be even worse than it is now.

1999 is fine.

>> No.2568712

The divide between later N64/PS1 games and early PS2 games really isn't all that substantial.

>> No.2568714

-I think all RPGS should have a limited ammount of experience, like strategy rpgs.
Grinding experience shouldnt be possible.
Inventing the Strategy RPG genre with Fire Emblem is the most ignored achievement of Nintendo.

-I get a bit angry when young people who begun playing fighting games around 2009 with Street Fighter IV say SFII characters like Blanka are lame.

-I think Metroid and Zelda games from the SNES on are wonderful experiences the first playthrough, but have little replayability because the combat is very easy and simple, and the challenge is in the puzzles and figuring out where to go next. A challenge that disappears after beating the game for the first time.
You should play those games every 5-10 years when you no longer remember the puzzles and the locations of everything, in order to experience it again as a first playthrough.

I dont like Yoshi's Island

Nintendo's first party became better from the N64 on because losing the third party support forced them to improve their first party.

I dont understand why people here talk about the arcade ports of Playstation and Saturn when GGPO and mame exists. Why would anyone want to play Street Fighter Alpha 2 on a Playsation or Saturn?

>> No.2568717

>>2568714
>Why would anyone want to play Street Fighter Alpha 2 on a Playsation or Saturn?

Nobody wants on the PS1.
But the Saturn port is pretty close to being arcade perfect. It's not, but it does the job.
I mostly like to play it on the Saturn because of the controller. I figure you can just get a USB Saturn pad and play mame, but I digress.

>> No.2568720

>>2568714
Saturn ports were arcade perfect with the expasion memory pack.

>> No.2568731

>>2568695
Fair enough. Never really got the appeal of JF, but I respect your opinion nonetheless.

>Rare's best games in that era weren't the platformers IMO.
This I can fully agree on though, yet I thought JFG was the best Rare platformer because of the TPS aspect that was probably inspired by their FPSes.

>> No.2568745

>SMB 1 is superior to SMB 3
>The NES Mega Man games were fucking atrocities of game design
>Yoshi's Island isn't great
>The LoZ series fucking sucks
>Rare has always been a shitty company

>> No.2568750

>>2568680
How is that not arbitrary? Why 1995 instead of 1994 or 1996? Why are you including the Playstation and Saturn but excluding the N64?

>> No.2568765
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2568765

/vr/ should make concessions for consoles that were launched after 1999, but nonetheless have primarily retro content, like the GBA and WonderSwan Color.

I'm not sure how anyone can regard the Dreamcast as retro while treating the GBA like something that belongs on /v/. Good luck discussing a decade-old handheld there. Good luck discussing video games on /v/ *at all*

>> No.2568776

>>2566821
You monster

>> No.2568791

I like most modern sonic games and Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the best retro one
Don't murder me pls

>> No.2568793

>>2568765
I don't get what people mean when they say you can't discuss videogames on /v/
I rarely visit it but it doesn't seem like that.

>> No.2568795

>>2568793
It's pretty random when discussion actually occurs. Most threads either devolve into idiots shitposting or get knocked off the board by the latest hot memes

>> No.2568801

SNES has a shit sound chip and sound font.

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>>2568801
It's a Sony

>> No.2568827

>>2568801

I feel like this is almost a common view in /vr/, kinda like when a contrarian view becomes the most popular one.
I think the SNES is the first console with soundtracks as good as some instrumental albums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-UkEsnjNRU

>> No.2568845

>>2568765

I'm happy with the Wonderswan, it's not going to get discussed on /v/. GBA might be pushing it and it'd open the door to things like the PS2 being on this board, which cannot be allowed at all.

>> No.2568856

>>2568801
>SNES has a "sound font" common to all games
Opinions based on falsehoods are to be discounted. It's also a pretty popular opinion; if you want to ruffle feathers, you'll have to go back to praising it.

>> No.2568858

>>2567194
>The major problem with Pokemon is that the combat is way to simple and for anyone who isn't a child the game is simply way too easy. Of course this doesn't really matter for the target audience, which IS children. I used to rail on Pokemon for not evolving but the fact is that it doesn't need to. The game is pretty much perfect for its audience.

Not true. The main story is easy, sure, but that goes for all modern RPGs. The postgame shit is pretty fucking brutal and absolutely requires an indepth understanding of the mechanics, heavy use of strategy in both teambuilding and battling, as well as careful preparation of stats and movesets in advance.

Reaching the credits is easy, yes. Kids are going to do that, then be happy. Unlocking the Starf Berry is extremely challenging. Kids probably won't even bother attempting it.

>> No.2568865

>>2568827
But the Sound chip was indeed SHIT, everything sounded muffled, adn samples sounded with a lot of clipping

>> No.2568870

>>2568791
REEEEEE!!!!!!!

>> No.2568871

>>2568858
Not to mention actually playing against other people. I don't understand people who rag on multiplayer titles like fighting games and first-person shooters without ever competing against anyone.

>> No.2568873

>>2568865
No more or less muffled than anything of its contemporaries. This is a purely made-up criticism.

>> No.2568876

>>2568858
At the end of the day... grinding = easy mode in any rpg. I like the complexity of some of the stats. You can build characters how you want them to be. If you want to see a truly involved modern rpg then read a walk through for Final Fantasy Dimensions on Android. Square basically made a modern game that is genuinely retro in gameplay. It follows the classic FF6789 formula yet the character mechanics and stats are drastically more involved. I dig it personally. So many ways to play.

>> No.2568881

>>2568873
Genesis and TurboGrafx 16 had an actual Synth Chip wich amde the sound crispier and cleaner, especially when it came to the drum sounds. nintendo had this muffled snare sample that sounded like hitting a turtle shell, while genesis had this awesome crisp and fully reverbed snare

>> No.2568882

>>2568856
>SNES has a "sound font" common to all games
You don't even know how the SNES chip works, do you? Protip: it's not an actual synth.

>> No.2568884

>>2568881
>Genesis and TurboGrafx 16 had an actual Synth Chip
correct
>wich amde the sound crispier and cleaner, especially when it came to the drum sounds.
Disagree

>nintendo had this muffled snare sample that sounded like hitting a turtle shell
Again, SNES did not have a "snare drum" sample embedded in the sound chip that every game had to make do with.

>> No.2568889

>>2568882
You don't even know how to read, do you? Protip: The greentext is a quotation, not my own words.

>> No.2568890

>>2568876
If you weren't talking out of your ass, you'd know that postgame Pokemon locks your levels. Just grinding won't help a bit.

>> No.2568898

>>2568884
>Again, SNES did not have a "snare drum" sample embedded in the sound chip that every game had to make do with.
i know but the frequency filter was so bad, that every single nintendo game that has drum sounds sound like that, muffled hit on a turtle shell, the only thing it could handle well were trumpet and horn like sounds.

>> No.2568902

>I think western developed games during the 4th gen played better mostly on the genesis
>I think at times the SNES sound chip can sound like farts and 10 yr olds barely learning how to play horn instruments or extremely boring.
>Rare games are good if you're 8 years old except Conker and PD
>Goldeneye is overrated
>any console version minus Saturn and all 6th gen ports of SF 2 are just ok but should be played unless for curiosity/nostalgia
>DC was probably the second best console in the 6th gen behind xbox
>KOF 2000 is much better than 2002 but not as good as 98.
>FF VII is overrated, boring and disgusts me
>I never cared for MK but I want to truly like it
>Virtua Fighter 1 and 2> Tekken 1 and 2
>Mario 2 or SM3>SMW
>I like the remakes of Red and Green better than originals
>I like darius 2
>people who can't play games cause how "graphics aged" deserve a special place in hell for them
>Colecovision>2600
>US licensed music for GT 2 sucks
>Rondo of blood best castlevania
>Alpha 1>Alpha 3 I enjoy the simplicity of the game just a bare bones simple SF game
>Sonic 3&K>Sonic 2
>nearly all of Disc 1 of Shenmue was boring and nearly stopped me from going on

>> No.2568903

>>2568881
Riddle me this batman... Why did all of their games sound like an effeminate man screaming into a tin cup? SEGAAAA!!!!!!

Shit was cheap metal ear cancer.

>> No.2568906

>>2568898
I disagree, but okay

>> No.2568917

>>2568902
>Colecovision>2600
This is not an unpopular opinion at all and most people that hold it never played much Colecovision and are just nostalgiafagging about the console they had as a kid.

>> No.2568920

>>2568765

I'll say once more, /v2k/ board is needed.

Dreamcast, I think, may be considered as retro because Sega nowadays doesn't make consoles.

>> No.2568925

>>2567036
>being gay is tumblr now

I think you're better suited to /v/, that's where edgy teens go. Not here.

>> No.2568931

>>2568917
really? I never had one since it was a generation before me (inb4 underage no im 20) but i dont really know the popular and unpopular opinions of the 2nd generation, yet.

>> No.2568934

>>2567802
>It's okay when Nintendrones do it: The Post

>> No.2568935

>>2568902
>DC was probably the second best console in the 6th gen behind xbox

i agree, they only fucked up with the shitty control design

>> No.2568946

>>2568935
the original xbox controller looks horrible! thank god we got the S controller so comfy and the DC controller was only good for some games and others well not so much.

>> No.2568948

>>2568920
>Dreamcast, I think, may be considered as retro because Sega nowadays doesn't make consoles.
Not even close to what the actual definition of the word "retro" is. Thanks for trying, though!

>> No.2568962
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The entire RPG genre (with one or two exceptions) is for faggots that suck at both irl and video games. It's pretty much there for retards to 'roleplay' and use games as a form of escapism to escape their shitty tragic existences. It's like a fucking prerequisite for RPGs to come with shitty and boring gameplay mechanics so the shitter behind the screen can 'play' the damn thing. Jesus christ what the fuck is fun about turn based RPG? What is fun about grinding mechanics so you can level up and finally shove some potion up your ass so you can beat a boss by pressing a button? Do you need a brain hemorrhage to enjoy this shit?

People that play video games for story should be lined up and shot. I'm not against story in vidya but when that story detracts from actual gameplay in the form of drawn out exposition and unskippable cutscenes then you have a fucking problem; especially considering that most video game stories are poorly written and have shitty as fuck scripts and worse voice acting on top of it. I can't relate to a goddamn pixelated character and if this shit gives you 'feels' you seriously need to grow the fuck up and maybe check yourself into an autism clinic. I play games to PLAY games - not to jerk myself off in a poorly written world with even worse gameplay mechanics.

Fuck RPG and fuck you.

>> No.2568964

>>2568931
The Colecovision was the "arcade-accurate" luxury console of its time. It had graphics relatively comparable to arcade games at the time of its release and was powerful enough to deliver gameplay relatively accurate to the original games. Its only real downside was a slightly shitty controller and the fact that Atari had exclusivity deals on a good couple arcade hits that they didn't want to share. Back in its time, it was basically perfection and the only ones that "disliked it" were kids whose parents didn't allow them to get one, so they "hated" it out of jealousy.

Kinda like the Neo Geo AES, which mostly just got shat on by people that couldn't have one.

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>>2567032
The only thing I heard you say in that entire rant was that you think grade school kids need to know what but fucking is. Final Fantasy is not the place for any kind of sexual agenda whether it's gay or straight. It's fucking called FINAL FANTASY. It's the game everyone discovered just before puberty and still see through nostalgia tinted glasses. The games are childhood and give us the opportunity to relive innocence lost. GTFO with this sexual nonsense. The most sexual moment in a retro final fantasy game involved a character going through a bunch of party switching at a book shelf to collect a magazine he was embarrassed about. I'm not a prude. Just stop trying to stick your dick in my ear.

>> No.2568980

>>2568962
>I can't relate to a goddamn pixelated character and if this shit gives you 'feels' you seriously need to grow the fuck up and maybe check yourself into an autism clinic
The part about autism is especially ironic.

>> No.2568981

>>2568964
tbh I really like the 2600 controller a little its simple and they do alot with it back then but the colecovision looks like a toy phone i guess thats what they're aiming for? i would assume so?
>atari getting exclusive deals
i remember reading about that and watching documentaries about that Space Invaders was one of the big ones iirc and coleco had the better version of DK.

>> No.2568985

>>2568970
>Final Fantasy is not the place for any kind of sexual agenda whether it's gay or straight
You must not have read his post because he didn't say anything like that.

>> No.2568989

Here's a direct song comparison to show how ABSOLUTELY SHIT the SNES sound chip was.

Genesis ver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkunDee1X1c

SNES ver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HJ_GUEkkj8

>> No.2568991

>>2568970
Not him but Final Fantasy is srsly for faggots. That shit is next level gay.

>> No.2568992

>>2568989
Thats what im talking about!

>> No.2568998

>>2568981
They were going for "lots of buttons", which was common enough at the time. The Colecovision controller had 14 buttons compared to the 2600 controller's 1. If you've played those involving 2600 games where you need to push buttons on the fucking console itself to perform basic gameplay opeations, I assume you can see the advantage in that.

Most notable CV games were relatively simple arcade games that just used the numpad for difficulty selection though.

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>>2568985
He said...
>Final Fantasy VI was my least favorite game in the series
Clearly pushing a faggot agenda.

>> No.2569002

The Magnavox Odyssey is the only true Videogame console, everything after that is utter shit.

>> No.2569005

>>2568989
>One set of examples defines an opinion as truth across the board!

This is like comparing a great song from one genre to a terrible cover from another genre and declaring that the latter genre is ABSOLUTELY SHIT.

We understand you hold an "unpopular opinion," but at the end of the day, it's just an opinion. Please stop wasting your time trying to "prove" your opinion.

>> No.2569008

>>2568750
Not him, but it might be because N64 is 64-bit?

That, or all the kiddies that ruin /vr/ grew up on N64 because they were too young and retarded to handle discs without irreparably damaging them so that's what mummsy and dada bought them and without their preciously retarded console with its oversized controllers and shitty games save a dozen or so, they wouldn't post here and ruin everything all the damn time. Just maybe.

>> No.2569009

>>2569002
You're all faggots. This was the only good form of vidya entertainment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_Ray_Tube_Amusement_Device

>> No.2569013

Many sports games on the Genesis are actually pretty fun and better than todays sports games.

>> No.2569014

>>2569005
It's not about the orchestration, it's about the instrumentation quality you dipshit.

>> No.2569020

>>2568330
Why is there no kid chameleon sequel?

>> No.2569023
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2569023

>>2569008
>trying to incite 5th gen console wars AGAIN

>> No.2569025

>>2569014
It's not about "this game sounds better than that one so ALL SNES SOUNDS LIKE SHIT" you dipshit.

>> No.2569029
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2569029

Hideo Kojima is the greatest female game designer of all time.

>> No.2569032

>>2568981
Donkey Kong was the CV's initial pack-in game and Coleco themselves intentionally made shitty port of the game for the 2600 and Intellivision so they could compare them in ads and make their own system look better.

Amusingly enough,Donkey Kong is actually one of the less arcade-accurate ports on the entire system and was rushed pretty hard.

Also, Atari ported some of their own games to the CV as well, and these were generally superior to their 2600 counterparts. Defender in particular is complete fucking garbage on the 2600, while the CV port is very impressive. The difficulty level was sharply reduced though

>> No.2569046

>>2568902
>Virtua Fighter 1 and 2> Tekken 1 and 2
I would think, or perhaps just hope everyone thinks that on /vr/. I like Tekken but it's a thimble of water compared to VF's ocean of depth.

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>>2568970
>>2569001
here's your reply.

>> No.2569057

>>2569052
I just watched that movie, it was so bad it was good.

>> No.2569059

>>2569008
>seriously using the x-bits argument
Do you think eighth-gen consoles are 256-bit, too?

>> No.2569060

>>2569052
>>2569057
lmao what movie is this

>> No.2569063

>>2569059
My bad, did the math wrong. I guess we're up to 512 bits now.

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>>2569052
I was hoping for a reply to the kojima bait. I personally thought that bit was golden. Here's my reply.

>> No.2569095

>>2568989

Congratulations, your opinion is a /vr/ meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSdfFCihX_c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9X2GN87F18

The Genesis library is full of music that sounds like a horrible harpsichord, like skeletons fucking on a tin roof.
The NES had nicer sounding music.

>> No.2569096

The best Handheld Videogame device was the Nokia 5110 it had the best game in Videogame history: Snake, it had the BEST graphics for it's time and its gameplay its so memorable that even modern games RIPOFF snake game mechanics, its the best system and the best game, not the Fucking nintendo and Sega's pieces of utter crap hardware, those consoles were for fucking faggots

>> No.2569103

>>2568684
No video game console that had Call of Duty games released for it should ever be considered retro.

>> No.2569104

>>2569095
SNES version is obviously better, but Genesis really doesn't sound that bad.

>> No.2569106

Not even 5th generation should be considered retro.

>> No.2569110

>>2569002
>>2569009
>>2569096
What the fuck?

>> No.2569116

>>2569110
You weren't there man!!!!!

>> No.2569124

>>2569110
>not grasping sarcasm
I am legit on the autism spectrum and even I can detect it.

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>>2569009
>implying electronic filth is superior to mechanical amusements

>> No.2569137

>>2569128
Pepperidge Farm Remembers :)

>> No.2569141

>>2567848
Thanks for the response. It made my day.

>> No.2569143

>>2567757
>PS2 generations
You realize PS2 was just recently discontinued right?

Even if GBA and Xbox were allowed I doubt PS2 would be let in. That's the main problem here.

>> No.2569150

>>2569020
Because no one has ever beaten the first one.

>> No.2569161

>>2569141
lol your day sucks

>> No.2569164
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>>2568970

What the fuck did I just read, and what does any of it have to do with the post you were replying to?

Don't forget to take your meds on time, people.

>> No.2569165

>>2569106

I agree to a certain extent. There's a stark difference between the 4th and 5th generation of video game consoles. If it weren't for PC gaming, it would make more sense to me to break up the boards into a generation 1-4 board and a generation 5-8 board (or perhaps a 5-7 and a current generation board). Perhaps that would fragment discussions too much.

>> No.2569167

>>2568353
>Anyone complaining about a translation job tuning down things like Frog for the sake of MUH CHARMS is retarded.
Without a doubt, translation wars are the most autistic thing to happen on /vr/. Mostly because two of the ones people sperg over the most, CT and FFVI, aren't even full retranslations. They're touch-ups of existing work.

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>>2567757
>Emulation allows for newer generations and poorfags to easily play the games of yesteryear.

>Collectors preserve and maintain the hardware that gave us these great games.

You should be banned hurr de hurr.

AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

>> No.2569174

>>2569164
Anti-SJW's are just as easily triggered as SJW's.

>> No.2569175

>>2569143
>Everything from this gen except for PS2 is allowed
>Consoleniggers from /v/ come to shitpost about Sony
>/vr/ never recovers

See, this is why I think the wall set is pretty perfect for the current rules. You open even more shit by going a single gen farther until later on.

>> No.2569179

Are Jaguar and DODODO the fifth or the fourth gen consoles?

>> No.2569183

>>2569179
Jaguar is obviously in retro.

>> No.2569191

The /vr/ doom community is fucking AIDS.

>> No.2569194

>>2569191
Explain yourself, I don't go there much but I'm curious.

>> No.2569196

>>2569191
Why?

>> No.2569205

>>2569183
Doesn't answer the question. Thanks for trying, though!

>> No.2569209

>>2569205
Jaguar is generally considered Fifth Gen

>> No.2569217

>>2569191
Really? I generally think our generals are the good kind, though Doom tends to leak a couple times. /vr/ct in particular is god tier.

>> No.2569220 [DELETED] 

>>2569164
I'll be an sjw later when this get's boring. I'm donald trump when I'm drunk and george takei when I'm high. SHitposting passes the time when you're too hfucked up to play some vidya.

>> No.2569225

>>2569194

Not that anon and I actually like the /vr/ doom community in that they're active and that their threads are pretty interesting. But they could be accused of being inaccessible. They're heavily into modding and if you aren't familiar with mods and their communities, you're gonna be lost.

>> No.2569228 [DELETED] 

http://www.esports-edge.com/

>> No.2569236

>>2569228
At least you didn't make a thread.

>> No.2569242

>>2569104

>>2568989
Genesis version is obviously better, but SNES really doesn't sound that bad.
I actually think the SNES version sounds better and that Genesis clip sounds pretty damn muffled to be supporting a "Genesis sounds crisper and cleaner than SNES" argument

>> No.2569246

>>2569194
>>2569196
It's composed of literal plebs and reddit circle jerkers that suck at the game and have godawful 'opinions' about it and other retro FPS - of which they have no clue. It is a disgusting community and their roots lie within Halo and COD. They've jumped onto the Doom bandwagon since /vr/'s creation and think they're special for it; I believe they think it gives them 'gamer cred' or some horse shit. They're like those obnoxious 14-15 year old stoners that start smoking weed and feel the need to tell everybody about it when it really isn't a big deal.

What a shithole, christ. The 'humour' in particular is so fucking gay, straight out of reddit.

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>>2567098
>>2568925
Not that anon, but it's not the censorship or gay part that makes this opinion tumblr-esque, it's the
>X should be represented in Y!
argument
I mean I'm a fag too but I don't see why everything has to have gay people in it.
This is certainly not the problem in the case where characters were removed or swapped out, but with Ash, I mean he was obviously included originally as a joke character.
Maybe it's unfair that I can't marry my husbando in Harvest Moon (the bartender), but I don't take it personally.

>> No.2569257

>>2569225
oh please

their mods are total shit and utterly forgettable. I hear h-doom came out of there. I guess that's something. haven't played that shit though because I'm not a faggot that gets off to vidya erotica

>> No.2569260

Sonic is very overrated.

>> No.2569267

>>2569257

I don't disagree in that I'm sure a majority of the mods are likely ass (like with any other game). And I don't know what the hell they're talking about half the time. But I still think it's interesting from time to time. I can see where you're coming from though.

>> No.2569270

>>2569257
Also, Doom wasn't even that good.

>> No.2569271

>>2569059
>>2569063
Nope. I don't think of anything past the fifth gen at all.
And if you were my /vr/o, you wouldn't, either. But you're not my /vr/o. You heard of "classic" games just last Thursday and that the thing connected to your teething toy is called an N64 and it fits the definition of "retro" so you're, like, totally an expert on it just because you nibbled and drooled on the controller as an infant.

>you are now aware kiddies born the year /after/ N64 was released are old enough to vote and post to /vr/
Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

>> No.2569275

>>2569270
I like Doom. I hate /vr/oom. They're a disgrace to the game.

Try out Plutonia from Final Doom btw. Original Doom is indeed pretty boring in 2015 but Plutonia is amazing. First three levels are a little boring but after that it's brilliance.

>> No.2569279

>>2569191
Fine by me, honestly. You won't get AIDS except by fucking gays or prostitutes, and you won't have a problem with the /vr/ doom community unless you go in their thread.

>> No.2569281

>>2569275
>First three levels are a little boring but after that it's brilliance.
*Not boring actually, but not anywhere near the quality of the rest of the game.

>> No.2569283

>>2569271
How pathetic are you that you have so few achievements to speak of that have to rely on the date of your birth to feel superior to others?

>> No.2569284

>>2569279
Too bad it's always shitting up the front page though. It's also amazing how they seem incapable of sticking to their horse shit general, and constantly feel the need to make Doom threads elsewhere as well.

>> No.2569287

>>2569271
>people born after the year I was born grow up and become adults
Are you literally retarded, or what?

>> No.2569296

>>2569271
You're trying way too hard to fit in, you know.

>> No.2569302

>>2569283
>>2569287
>>2569296
12 YEARS OLDS RAGING TOO HARD

>> No.2569307

>>2569254

Am I missing something? Nowhere in that post did it say, "Every game should have gay people in it."

>the thing that bothered me most was the removal or re-gendering of LGBT characters
Meaning characters who were originally LGBT to begin with, but got censored in English versions. Ash is one example, per your post.

>or a lack of same-sex relationships in retro games that had romance systems
As in games that were intended from the get-go to have a character romance system. Why limit that system to opposite-sex characters only? From a coding standpoint, you'd have to go out of your way to create a character gender flag for the sole purpose of preventing characters of the same sex from having romantic interaction choices. It's an intentional design choice to make the game exclusionary because they developers probably want to avoid controversy, or having the ESRB slap them with a T rating.

Not like it matters now though. The media is nothing like it was in the '80s and '90s when conservative pundits went into a flying rage over the least mention of gay people or atheism or whatever. I'm pretty sure even Nintendo mentioned something about allowing same-sex romances in their upcoming Fire Emblem game, because fans kept complaining about the relationship system being too restrictive. So there you go.

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>>2569302
Here is your daily fact of the day anon!
Calling people children usually indicates that you yourself are an immature asshole!~

>> No.2569313

>>2569271
>using your age as an argument on anonymous image board

I'm 137 years old, faggot. Prove me wrong.

>> No.2569316

>>2569313
Pictures faggot, provide some.

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>>2569312
He's right though.

I'm sorry but if you were born after the year '89 at the very most you literally don't know shit about video games and never will. Hell you shouldn't even be on /vr/.

>> No.2569334

we all know /vr/ has a lot of oldfags, but there also a lot of kiddos that like retro games, most of this kids are the ones that play on emulators and like to argue like fanboys about such themes like sega vs nintendo, wich oldfags dont care anymore, mostly because now we have the money to buy wathever console we want.

>> No.2569339

>>2569323
You have zero knowledge of anyone on this sites age. Also, yes you can know about video games if you were born after it.

Are you telling me that when we all die, the next generation can't enjoy or know anything about these games because they 'weren't there'.

Top notch thinking there anon.

>> No.2569343

>>2569283
How about the fact that I have a PhD and teach at a collegiate level?? Is that accomplished enough for you, kiddo? And before you say something ridiculous about age or something, I'll have you know I earned my PhD at 26 years old and have been teaching since before then (because PhD programmes force you to teach).

>> No.2569347

>>2569339
only a kiddo would care about such a thing, go home kiddo

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>>2567761

>> No.2569350

>>2569339
you're an angry '90s born loser hipster lmao

don't even try to deny it

you grew up on halo and cod on xbl

you are objectively cancer and deep inside you know it

>> No.2569351

>>2569347
kek

>> No.2569352

>>2569307
Relationships had no place in Fire emblem to begin with and all of the same sex shilling in modern games makes me appreciate retro games that much more

>> No.2569354

>>2569343
>Teach at a collegiate level
So you couldn't hack it in your field of study? What's your fucking PhD in? Women's studies or psychology I assume.

>> No.2569356

>>2569334
thats kinda true actually

>> No.2569359

>>2569350
you are actually the worst kind of person. Get the fuck over yourself and think about the superiority complex you've developed and how worked up you're getting over something so insignificant.

>> No.2569361

>>2569343
i got a phd too
a pretty huge dick lmao

>>2569359
looks like I struck a nerve :)

>> No.2569362

>>2569352
You do realize that Fire Emblem 4 had the relationship system in 1996?

>> No.2569367

>>2569283
>few achievements
Exactly what I'm talking about. You know nothing of what the golden age is. You can't appreciate it.
>Achievement unlocked: You pressed "A" through the tutorial! Congratulations! Gold star for you! You didn't shit yourself!! YAY!!!!

>> No.2569369

>>2569334
I completely disagree. The oldfags are the ones who constantly assume that someone is a "kiddie".

>> No.2569372

>>2569361
>Someone raises a completely reasonable point that demonstrates why you're being an ass
>LOL I STRUCK A NERVE?

you act like a 5 year old

>> No.2569376

>>2569362
It was not at the same level of pandering as the system introduced in awakening

>> No.2569378

>>2569372
looks like I struck a nerve :)

>> No.2569383

>>2569369
i believe i never said such a thing about anyone asuming who is a "kiddie"?

>> No.2569386

>>2569323
Stupidest thing I've ever read in my life.

That's like saying you don't know shit about cars if you weren't around in the 1920's.

>> No.2569390

>>2569383
I'm just saying that oldfags are far and away the most annoying part of this board

>> No.2569391

>>2569339
>>2569369
>>2569386
i believe someone is samefaging?

>> No.2569392

>>2569386
>>2569350

>> No.2569393

>>2569376
What do you mean pandering? And it's just as significant of a system in FE4. It's just not thrown in your face.

>> No.2569397

>>2567745
I'm willing to bet that most of these opinions are less represented than there opposition.

>> No.2569402

>>2569390
Are you aware that oldfags MADE this board right?

>> No.2569404

God you guys are all cock guzzling faggots, continue the thread already

>> No.2569405

>>2569402
You mean moot made this board, to contain oldfags.

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2569408

>>2569391
half-right.

What, I can't reply in a thread more than once to call people out on their bullshit?

>LOL SAMEFAG

>> No.2569410

All video games are made for children and are a shitty waste of time.

Grow up already. Stupid manchildren.

sincerely,
/fit/

>> No.2569413

>>2569402
What difference does that even make?

>> No.2569415

>>2569354
...
No... that's what a Master's degree is. It means you couldn't finish your PhD. And what: you think universities just give you all the money and time in the world to study what you want when you want? No!
They /force/ you to teach. Being a researcher, even in the hard sciences (I'm a cognitive scientist/linguist, so not exactly a hard science, admittedly) doesn't excuse you from teaching duties unless you're absolutely invaluable in every way.
Even absolutely brilliant people, like the recently departed John Nash, have to teach, and his schizo ass did right up to his death last month.

Every wonder why your professors are surly? Now you know. We don't want to teach. We want to research as much as possible. Or fuck around on /vr/ and play video games.

>> No.2569416

>>2569408
lol that's more than half right dumbass

also protip: never use caps, even ironically. it always makes you look mad (and we all know you're mad lol)

>> No.2569423

>>2569334
holy shit did you have a brain aneurysm while typing this out? I think it gave me one. Also samefag >>2569356

>> No.2569424

>>2569413
its stupid saying oldfags ruin this board when this board is especifically made for oldfags

>> No.2569427

>>2569393
It doesn't have all of the waifu shit and now gay shit that the current ones have

>> No.2569429

>>2569416
half-right as in the expression, I wasn't saying that you literally got half of it right

>>2569415
>No... that's what a Master's degree is

What?

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2569434

>>2569415
So you do what an app will do better in less than 5 years? Maybe your meaning was just lost in translation... I could be wrong.

>> No.2569435

>>2569429
>you
I'm not even the same guy lmfao

Also I'm getting some beta vibes from you dude tbh

>> No.2569440

>>2569435
It's obviously my 2 inch penis that is giving them off.

>> No.2569445

>>2569440
LMAO

>> No.2569446

>>2569435
You literally know nothing about me.

But tbh I get beta vibes from someone who is so quick to be such an asshole on a retro video games forum

>>2569434
What are you even trying to say

>> No.2569451

>>2569429
When you leave a PhD programme, you're given a Masters degree, basically as a booby prize. Of course, there are some programmes, such as the MFA or MBA, where the Masters is the terminal degree, but in the sciences, you only get one for not completing your PhD.

>>2569434
Who do you think builds the app?

>> No.2569456

>>2569446
>You literally know nothing about me.
I'm watching you right now anon
I watch you every day
Every minute
Every breath
you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you
srs

>> No.2569467

>>2569275
I dunno that place doesn't seem much different to other communities. In any case, the game isn't very interesting to me anymore, because the community is very different from the old days of 1994-96. Back then there wasn't much critique and so people freely did their own things, in their very own personal way, and without being constrained or influenced by "best practices".

Anyway whatever, I've moved on too, back to playing and making games for old 80's computers. Even better, there's no arbitrary engine restrictions, just hardware restrictions. So nobody will ever make an equivalent like ZDoom that gets adopted by most of the community and leaves the original in the dust, largely forgotten and despised.

>> No.2569470

>>2569410
But, of course, going out of your way to enter the neighborhood of a hobby you think of a waste of time just to taunt the hobbyists is NOT a shitty waste of time. It's something healthy people do.

>> No.2569472

Super Metroid is ridiculously overrated.

>> No.2569473

>>2569334
>wich oldfags dont care anymore, mostly because now we have the money to buy wathever console we want.

Anyone on /vr/, kid or otherwise, has the cash to buy the old consoles they want these days. It's the people who were kids when the consoles were originally released who have a vestigial emotional attachment to old console wars.

>> No.2569475

>>2569473
>vestigial
look at this pretentious autist holy shit
when was the last time you saw a fucking VAGINA irl son?

>> No.2569476

>>2569473
Exactly. If anything, younger people have a more objective perspective.

>> No.2569479

>>2569472
Agreed. It's a fucking shitty boring easy game.

>>2569476
No. You retards call anything that kills you 'artificial difficulty'. You're scum. To be specific, save-scum.

>> No.2569483

>>2569456
>i'll be watching you
FOOOOREEEEEEEEEVVVEEER

that's how the song goes right?

>> No.2569484

>>2569451
>Who do you think builds the app?
The undergrad who knows how to program in a high-level language.

>> No.2569486

>>2569483
no

wtf

stupid kids

>> No.2569489

>>2569486
i love you

>> No.2569492

>>2569479
You're apparently very out of touch.

>> No.2569494

>>2569479
younger people =/= /v/.

>> No.2569496

>>2569410
>from /fit/
I'm from fit and its pretty divided that some of us enjoy vidya and some don't you do realize where in an chinese girl cartoon fourm we people discuss F I T N E S S too and were all autist and nerds.
4/10

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>>2569489
:3

>> No.2569504

>>2569492
you apparently suck at video games

>> No.2569520

>>2569479
Turned 18, June and I've being buying my own consoles since I turned 16, I've never emulated, and never considered a game aritificially difficult because that phrase is stupid. Also, no I'm not a N64/PS1 Babby, I bought most of the consoles from 2600 through Saturn, and stopped. I also have no opinion on the console wars since they are fucking stupid. I want to talk about old games and have fun playing them, since that's what I like. Seriously, all you fucking sperglords need to stop, I just want to talk to /vr/ about hidden gems and not whether or not certain consoles are better, and whether or not emulation is wrong or right.

please leave /vr/ you are seriously making it awful for some of us

>> No.2569526

>>2569520
i'm staying right here m8

>> No.2569560

>>2569526
Why you obviously aren't contributing quality posts.

>> No.2569602

>>2567679
you're wrong dude

the analog was terrible and wore down like a motherfucker

meanwhile my ps analogs are still absolutely fine

it would have been alright if it had a good analog but it didn't so its fucked, and I absolutely loved the N64

>> No.2569603

>>2569520
>I'm not a N64/PS1 Babby
No, you're a fucking 360 kiddo. I don't even believe you've stopped breastfeeding tbh.

>> No.2569605

>>2569560
I'm the best poster on /vr/. Fact. You're just some pleb tbh.

>> No.2569620

>>2569603
>360 kiddo
>kiddo
sure, if you want, although I have never owned one.

>>2569605
>best poster on /vr/
my wife and me posts don't count

>> No.2569648

>>2568357
>Sure, most of the games aren't as flashy as the C64 alone, but many of them play and sound be
better

The best C64 games (eg. Creatures) wipe the floor with the best MSX games.

>> No.2569653

>>2568710
>In 1995, if you had a PS1 you were stuck with shit like some soccer games, ports of boring strategy games from PC that are just awful to play with a PS controller

Oh look, he just insulted X-Com and Civ2.

>> No.2569659

>>2569334
>wich oldfags dont care anymore, mostly because now we have the money to buy wathever console we want

In Obama's economy, doubtful.

>> No.2569665

>>2569334
>we all know /vr/ has a lot of oldfags

Well, it's not _that_ many. There is this one French idiot who always posts in the retro computer general about French computers in the 80s. I swear to god, he may as well tripfag because he's a de-facto trip already.

>> No.2569674

>>2567408
I agree.
CRTs suck and there's no reason to use them.

>> No.2569683

>>2567679
I'm willing to cut the N64 controller a lot of slack but never for the analog stick, that thing was atrocious, it'd wear your thumb raw and it broke or wore easily.

>> No.2569694

>>2567765
I agree on this heavily.
Some day I hope the rules are amended to allow the GBA. It's a pretty old system now, I mean, the DS is over 10 years old now, and the GBA is even older.

>> No.2569696 [DELETED] 

>>2569665
Some of them are kiddies pretending to be oldfags, usually by reposting stories about things their dad did and rewording it to make it sound like it was them, Eg. this guy.

>>2569678

This post just oozes "I found my uncle's old Pong shit in the attic and I watched an AVGN video."

There are some legit oldfags of course, but they usually look like the World of Warcraft nerd in South Park and still live in their mom's basement at 40.

>> No.2569698

>>2567017
>And all the spin-offs, too.
This nigga hasn't played the Mystery Dungeon games.

>> No.2569702

>>2569648
You have to have an actual autism, not a meme one to think that this
https://youtu.be/8aM0vBe6eHc is a better soundtrack than
https://youtu.be/1RuDUvmvzdk?t=2m12s

>> No.2569705

Snatcher is overrated

Mario Kart isnt fun

Earthbound is boring

Doom 2 > Doom 1

The retro bubble will never pop

>> No.2569707

>>2569674
How do you play your old consoles on modern HDTVs without game breaking input lag? I'm asking seriously.

>> No.2569710

>>2569696
>There are some legit oldfags of course, but they usually look like the World of Warcraft nerd in South Park and still live in their mom's basement at 40.

I don't understand the mentality of enjoying media from years ago while making fun of board members who are old enough to have enjoyed it when it was modern. I hope I'm still interested in games and stuff in 13 years.

>> No.2569713

>>2569473
>It's the people who were kids when the consoles were originally released who have a vestigial emotional attachment to old console wars

I kind of agree. I never met too many people born after 1985 who were interested in waging a SNES/Genesis flamewar.

>> No.2569716

>>2569710
>I don't understand the mentality of enjoying media from years ago while making fun of board members who are old enough to have enjoyed it when it was modern

It's 4chan. We are all, as you say, social outcasts and openly psychotic.

>> No.2569726

>>2569716
I think his point was that nobody at the age of 40 would post on this shithole if they were a normal, adjusted person with a job and a family.

>> No.2569727

>>2569696
>There are some legit oldfags of course, but they usually look like the World of Warcraft nerd in South Park and still live in their mom's basement at 40.
I'm sure those guys exist (probably more on /co/ and /tg/) and I know it's hard for you to believe but some of us are just regular dudes with jobs and shit who like shooting the breeze about games we don't have time to play anymore. Fortunately I have my own basement now.

>> No.2569734

>>2569698
>This nigga hasn't played the Mystery Dungeon games.
This nigga would rather play Nethack instead of a shit roguelike-like for kids.

>> No.2569736

Don't know if this is a particularly offensive opinion on this board, but Deadly Towers is not a bad game and it's nowhere near the worst game for the NES.

>> No.2569737

>>2569726
Damn, why do you fucking kids gotta shitpost so goddamn much. Eat my dick.

>> No.2569741

There are many among us oldfags like eg. the C64 thread. After all, the dumb kids wouldn't appreciate that stuff.

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>>2569726
>nobody at the age of 40 would post on this shithole if they were a normal, adjusted person
You'd be surprised how much time I find to waste at my job.

I am divorced, though.

>> No.2569745

>>2567032
>I'm sure some of it was just a calculated move to avoid backlash from the conservative media, but it was really unfair to throw LGBT gamers under the bus because a vocal minority didn't want to see them in any form of media.

I don't think that was necessarily always a case of "FUCK THE FAGS" or "We'd rather be on the safe side."
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of devs simply never thought about LGBT gamers at all, that it never occurred to them.

I mean, there were censorship (mainly in Japanese ports), but say for example Harvest Moon, it's not like they had a gay option planned and then canned it because of pressure, the thought probably just didn't cross their mind to even have it as an option.

It was a different landscape back then, gays weren't quite as visible as now.

>> No.2569749

>>2569741
>>2569737
Calling people dumb kids doesn't exactly paint you as a mature adult.

>> No.2569751

I ate some ramen and it's given me the worst headache I've had in recent memory. hope this shit ain't a migraine. Fucked up. Last time I eat a bowl of chemicals.

>> No.2569752

>>2569659
This has to be bait

>> No.2569753

>>2569743
>You'd be surprised how much time I find to waste at my job

t. I post on my phone during bathroom breaks at my job as a Burger King cashier that my mom made me get

>> No.2569756

>>2569751
>eating Ramen
Why would you do that.jpg

>> No.2569759

>>2569756
It's usually delicious. I love it.

>> No.2569763

My god, is this thread ever /v/-tier.

>> No.2569769

We need to ban everyone born after 85 from here, seriously.

>> No.2569772

ITT: Obese 40 year old virgins get mad

>> No.2569776

>>2568269
>4. Telling people to not post in the general and acting as if it's your special oldfag sekrit club

I never said that, you idiot. I said if you're a /v/eenager, you probably wouldn't find the shit interesting.

>> No.2569779

>>2569734
Nethack is boring though.

>> No.2569781

>>2569769
Fuck your shit. '86 is objectively the best year to be born.

>> No.2569786

>>2569752
Unless you work for the government.

>> No.2569790

>>2569776
Hurp gtfo out of my oldfag sekrit club.

>> No.2569791

>>2569772
ITT kiddos shitposting while masturbating to dubstep or something

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>>2569707
I actually don't play my old consoles really, it's frequently too much of a hassle. I mostly emulate on a PC with a gamepad or I'll play a rerelease on a modern system.

If I want to play an NES game I'll emulate it (save for Duck Hunt, which I don't know if there's any way to play on your PC), same for GB. I never had a SNES or GBC as a kid, but I emulate those anyway.

I might have broken out my DS to play some GBA games on occasion (though the damn thing broke it's hinges a while back, so no more of that, I still have an SP lying around though).

I don't have a huge desire to play on my N64, because I honestly hate the controller, and my library is limited. There's Super Mario 64 (which I have on my DS now), there's Super Smash Bros. and Mario Party 2 (which I have nobody to play with), and there's Goldeneye, a game which I've run through wholly and completely, and frankly, it's not that fantastic of a shooter today, it's not a game that has aged well at all, compared to say, Doom, which has a much simpler style of gameplay, but that's also it's forte, it's a basic formula that works really well.
If I want to play a shooter with realistic weapons, I have that in so many other games, typically much better, and Goldeneye simply doesn't have that much of an amazing gameplay compared to so many other games. I also never had a memory expansion unit so slowdown frequently gets noticeable.

I don't play my PSX because the one game I had for it which I cared about, Symphony Of The Night, I have on the PS3, also, it's a hunk of shit and you have to lean the console up on it's side against something for the bloody thing to read discs at all anymore.
The PS2, is similar (I mean, except that the thing works), any of the games I held dear I have on my PS3.

I like a lot of old games, but I'm seriously not that committed to the consoles themselves most of the time.
(I've been emulating a lot of old this summer though, particularly Earthbound, in memory of Mr. Iwata)

>> No.2569793

>>2569790
My god, do they not teach critical thinking in school anymore? I know at least when I went, they still did. Perhaps it's different for your dumbass generation.

>> No.2569796

Seriously, fuck. There should be a rule that you have to be at least 30 to post here. It would weed out the /v/eenagers who weren't alive for retro games, but who did watch an AVGN video.

>> No.2569797

>>2569796
See >>2569790

>> No.2569801

>>2569796
I'm 29 and I also happen to be an incredibly beautiful man and have incredible taste in video games to boot. Trust me, /vr/ is all the better that I'm here. I won't let you down sir.

>> No.2569802

>>2569797
Go back to your Cawad00dy, kiddo.

>> No.2569805

Anyway, you can watch all the AVGN videos you want, but it still doesn't take away your having been born 15 years after the Atari 2600 was relevant.

>> No.2569812

This is such an amazing, quality thread.

>> No.2569815
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>Cawad00dy kids who will never know that feel of putting the Pirates! disk in the drive and hitting Reset

>> No.2569817

>>2569705
>Snatcher is overrated
meh idk about that but maybe not a game for everyone? Sure its a point and click and I don't it clicks well with some people than others
>MK isn't fun
Alright
>Retro bubble will never pop
i think you maybe right it will just get higher till no one wants to do this shit no more
>EB is boring
can we be friends?
>>2568658
I like vampire savior more than Vampire hunter/Night Warriors but better than Alpha 3, yes. 3rd strike debatable they're both amazing games.
>>2569801
*tips fedora* upvoted your post amigo :^))
>>2569812
what did you expect this always happens whenever we have these or Y cant ps2 be vr threads

>> No.2569824

>>2569517
See look here, fag. I told you there's many legit oldfags among us. This gent had an Osborne back in the day. He must be at least 40.

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Seriously though, if you were born 1990 onwards you are objectively a faggot. They call you faggots the participation trophy generation. You are 'entitled' personified into a mass of retards. You were raised on Call of Duty and Halo on XBox Live. If a game kills you, you call it artificial difficulty. Every single one of you should know that you are without doubt a fucking faggot, and I think deep inside you do actually know this on some level but it's buried beneath gallons and gallons of endless denial.

>> No.2569827

>>2569824
How do I know he was really around back in 82 and he didn't find his dad's old shit in the attic.

>> No.2569835

>>2569827
Ok now you're exploiting the anonymity of this website to make claims you know are false, but we can't really disprove.

>> No.2569837

>>2569825
I was born in 88 do I make the cut?

>> No.2569839

>>2569837
You're good people, no worries.

>> No.2569840

>>2569837
Not really no since you couldn't remember one second of anything before Clinton was president.

>> No.2569842

>>2569825
keep shit posting
>>2569520

>> No.2569845

>>2569837
Yeah, fuck you. Another 90s shitbabby. Seriously, you're the same age as Skrillex and only a few months older than Taylor Shit. Some fantastic generation, no?

>> No.2569846

>>2569840
Nigga I watched the Challenger blow up on live tv in my classroom.

>> No.2569848

>>2569845
>and only a few months older than Taylor Shit

Jelly that he'll never have her.

>> No.2569851

>>2569842
lol. you quote your shitty post like anyone is supposed to give a fuck. get a life nerd.

>> No.2569852

>>2569846
>I was born in 88
>two years after the Challenger disaster
>I saw it on TV
Uh...

>> No.2569856

>>2569851
you obviously did.

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>>2569796
>tfw 23
>tfw grew up with NES and Gameboy, as well as N64 and emulated Snes
>tfw played PC games like Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, Duke Nukem 3D, Diablo, Starcraft, Warcraft 2, Baldur's Gate, Grand Theft Auto, ReLoaded, G-Police, Syndicate Wars, etc
>tfw still play some of these games to this day
>tfw anon wants me cast down to the dark depths of /v/

How did I hurt you anon?

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>>2569805
Didn't the 2600 get discontinued somewhere around 92? Quite an off estimate you have there.

Either way, I'll be sure to check out some of Jame's stuff just because it angers you.

>> No.2569870

>>2569825
>KIDS THESE DAYS
Woah, slow down there gramps, I think it's time for your heart medication.

>> No.2569898

Someone being under thirty does not automatically make them a terrible human being who will never know what it's like to fall in love with classic gaming. A person can be awesome or an idiot regardless of their age. I know this board has its issues, but I think focusing on the common interest of enjoying older games is more important than waging age wars or repeatedly instructing someone to go back to /v/ because they don't feel exactly the way you do about something. This is my unpopular /vr/ opinion.

>> No.2569917

I love Resident Evil, but I hate the tank controls, I just can't deal with them and a fixed camera perspective at the same time.

>> No.2569940

>>2569898
>Someone being under thirty does not automatically make them a terrible human being
yeah it does. you know it, too. I'm 29 tbh but I'm close enough.

'90sbabbies though. ugh.

>> No.2569987

96 master race

Cunts need to get over that you don't need to be a special snowflake or nostalgic neckbeard faggot to enjoy older games

>> No.2570012

>>2569095
Both sound under the capacity of both respective system because Capcom for the most part couldn't into 16-bit when it came to arranging their otherwise excellently composed music out of the Arcades, unlike Konami who knew both systems inside out.

>> No.2570040

>>2569987
>96 master race
>I'm under 20 and know everything
>in elementary school when 4chan started
Literally the worst.

>> No.2570065

There hasn't really been an interesting game in the Zelda series since Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and I feel that Nintendo took the franchise into the wrong direction. They should have kept it more hardcore, like Ys has been for the most part.

Super Mario World is a step down from the Nes Marios in every way, so was Yoshi's Island. One of the reasons why I didn't really want a SNES when I was a kid, well that and the snubbing of Europe Nintendo continues to be known for.

I've tried and failed to get into Earthbound. Everything about it seems like it should be up my alley but everything cool about it the fans report just gets muddled by how dull looking, handling and even sounding it is.

Picking out a favorite system today or a side in a forgotten console war is like picking a favorite color: Dumb.

Things did actually used to be better then they are now gaming wise, but we only have to look 7-10 years back. Modern times are a dry spell of the dying and fading Japanese scene, bloated AA+ titles that are cut up into patches, dlc and season passes with obtuse DRMs that punish the buyer and an "indie" scene that overcrowds the market with more bad than good and has robbed us of the more focused and fertile risk/reward based publisher funded scene that ensured at least some semblance of production value and quality.

>> No.2570085

I wonder how pathetic your life has to be where you have to constantly brag about how you're superior to someone else just because you were born before them.

>> No.2570091

>>2570085
I wonder how pathetic your life has to be that you take chan banter seriously and personally :^)

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>>2570091

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>>2569648
>The best C64 games (eg. Creatures) wipe the floor with the best MSX games.
Son, how many MSX games have you even played?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-1zthTJhhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqXx_JLcikw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ldfF3DJ_k

>> No.2570113

>>2570091
I wonder how pathetic your life has to be to spew "4chan banter" and pretend you're retarded.

>> No.2570123

>>2570113
I wonder how pathetic you have to be to be you :)

irl you wouldn't even be able to make eye contact with me lmao fucking loser. I bet you're ugly and your breath stinks like shit too haha

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>>2570123

>> No.2570221

>>2567765
GBA release date 2001
PS release date 1994
>GBA is more Retro than PSX

wat in the fuck boy
Is it cause it looks retro?
Might as well let Fez and al the other "8 bit" indie games in here as well since they share the same aesthetic.

>> No.2570228

>>2567862
SIGH
>>/v/ is that way

>> No.2570235

>>2568120
just because 10 years is 3/4ths of the time youve been alive, doesnt make it retro.

>> No.2570239

>>2570221
There are people who argue that a date determines what's retro, and there are those who argue that it's about a certain "vibe" or "style." When the former is challeneged, they often become the latter; when the latter is challenged, they often become the former.

>> No.2570247

>>2570235
Just because it's 1/3 your lifetime doesn't mean it's not retro.

>> No.2570251

>>2568270
why are you even on this board?

>> No.2570275

>>2570251
>retro is now ONLY 16 bit material

>> No.2570280

>>2568304
pssssst
hey

some people dont like jrpgs

Genesis is better for arcade games than rpgs, which they still have a decent number of. Just nothing quite matching the size of the FF series

>> No.2570313

>>2568576
>spanish
>portuguese

that only counts as 1.25 languages

>> No.2570327

>>2569825
>tfw 18
>tfw used to heavily watch AVGN
>tfw had CoD 4 as one of my favorite games, because fuck, the guns felt satisfying and some of the maps were great.
I still dig retro games beyond the basic 'hurr durr Navi is sooooo annoying Dx' jokes. You're acting like a genwunner, quit bitching.

>> No.2570381

Goldeneye sucks

Perfect Dark is better but still kinda sucks

Super Smash Bros is the best in the series

Mario Kart is bullshit ruberbanding of a game

Wipeout>F-Zero

Carmageddon>Vigilante 8>Twisted Metal

FFIX is overhyped

Blood is overhyped

Duke 3D is underhyped

Best Road Rash is on the 3DO

The first Need for Speed sucked (except for the fmv guy talking shit)

>> No.2570405

Threads about CRT televisions are not retro in the least and should not be allowed on the board, let alone have 3 threads at any given time. The picture on CRT televisions have degraded so long now that any modern television looks better than them.

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>>2568609

>> No.2570458

>>2569225
4chan used to be inaccessible
it took me a few months of browsing back in like 06 to actually figure out what was going on. Theres one thing being curious and asking questions and then theres one thing stumbling in like a drunk guy and yelling questions that are all googlable.

>> No.2570462

>>2569246
you sure know a lot about COD kiddies and reddit

since most people hate on Brutal Doom there i dont think you know what youre talking about

>> No.2570569

>>2570275
if you think 16 bit is ugly i doubt you can appreciate lesser quality graphics which make up everything else.

>> No.2570582

>>2570569
>32 bit systems aren't retro
>it's not possible to dislike 16 bit because you prefer SIMPLER aesthetics

>> No.2570596

>>2570582
so you dont like 16 bit but like everything else?
yeah that makes sense

>> No.2570652

>>2570596
I'm not that guy, but hey, why not? Also, I was positing two possibilities which are not necessarily both happening at once.

>> No.2570664

>>2569020
Did it actually sell that well? I'm not so sure myself, but I'm guessing not.
Someone did make a full romhack called Heady Metal's Revenge though. I haven't played it myself, but it might be decent.

>> No.2570701

>>2570239
99 is a good console (gaming for pc) cut off date. I dont agree with the moving up one year every year as thats completely retarded. Retro is what it is as stated on the board when it was made and thats how it should stay.

>> No.2570732

>>2570701
>This is good, and that is bad, and it should always be like this.

Well said! I'm convinced.

>> No.2570741

>>2568709
Here's a novel idea, building on what you've said, rather than have release date as the criteria, use the discontinued date.

Make it discontinued date < (current year - 14 years)

Dreamcast = 2015
Gamecube = 2021
Xbox = 2022
Playstation 2 = 2027

That way oldfags will be dead, have ms or some other debilitating condition and will not be around to complain when someone discusses the Playstation 2

>> No.2570792

>>2570741
No arguments here, but good luck with people who think "retro" is not a sliding scale and that the PS2 can NEVER be retro.

>> No.2570796

>>2570741
> have ms or some other debilitating condition
On top of the tourette's and autism they have now? Damn, life dealt them a harsh hand.

>> No.2571049

So much anger, shitposting and what not in addition to actual convetsation. This has all been hilarious as fuck. Thank you for being great /vr/

>> No.2571295

>>2570458
>it took me a few months of browsing back in like 06 to actually figure out what was going on.
Did/do you suffer from mental retardation?

>>2570462
Brutal Doom is a fun mod. I actually grew up on Doom (unlike you and the rest of the Doom babies), played Doom at release in '93, and I can appreciate that BD is fun in its own right. The fact that Doom kiddies pretend to hate on it is just another example of how shitty and tryhard /vr/oom is. Also yeah, you fags are jealous because your mods are complete shit in comparison.

>> No.2571434

Benimaru Itoh sucked at drawing Metroid.

>> No.2571486

>>2571434
I disagree. He was Nintendo's only good hired artists next to Yoichi Kotabe, Katsuya Terada, and Ishinomori.

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>>2566739
>crtl+f zero results

Okay I might have a doozy for you guys that no one has mentioned. I was a huge into the NES in it's day and my favorite games on the system were the Castlevanias.

My favorite by far of those was always Simon's Quest. Nothing else really feels like that game, it's such an adventure. For years I had no idea it was largely despised and thought just assumed it was as well liked as I thought.

>> No.2571563

>>2567396
So, why can't we include the gameboy advance then? The GBA has plenty of those types of games.

>> No.2571567

>>2567679
My man!

>> No.2571582

>>2567765
Agreed

>> No.2571583

>>2571486
He was really good at drawing Starfox but he sucked at drawing Metroid.

>> No.2571615

>>2567396
You are a complete idiot. There are still games like that being made, but they're still not retro. Even the most classic rocky sounding classic rock that gets released today isn't "classic rock"

>> No.2571621

>>2567765
Absolutely no. "Retro" is not just a set of types of games, it's games from a specific era. It also has nothing at all to do with quality.

The GBA had a lot of 2D games because of it's hardware, but they weren't retro games. They were modern 2D games. The same kinds of games that today would get put on XBLA or Steam and that you people will shit all over.

The only thing "retro" about the GBA were it's graphics capabilities. And we all know how stupid people who just reduce games down to their graphics are.

>> No.2571623

>>2571525
I think it has a very certain appeal to it that other games simply don't have (with the exception for OoE), with how you move from town to town and from forests and graveyards to mansions and shit, I really like that idea, it reminds me a bit of Zelda II that way.

There's definitively problems of execution, and I don't like that you can literally walk past the bosses, the game was also not properly translated for the west and has a lot of cryptic shit in it that don't actually mean anything.

>> No.2571624

>>2571621
I think he's half right.

What I really think is that the GBA should eventually be let onto /vr/, as it's actually pretty old system by now. It's like what, 15 years old now? I think it's old enough to be considered.

And it's really impossible to talk about it on places like /v/, they don't give a shit about it.

>> No.2571650

>>2571624
It will eventually be allowed here, I'm sure. But in the meantime we have pretty successful GBA generals on /vg/ from time to time.

The thing with GBA is that even though it looks old, the design of many of the games are very indicative of mid 00's ones. Look for example at the SNES Super Star Wars series of games and then the Jedi Power Battles ones on GBA. They look a little similar, both being side scrolling Star Wars games but design wise are very different.

Which isn't to say it's bad at all, I love the GBA but the games do have a distinctly modern feel to them despite the limited graphics.

>> No.2571663

>>2571623
I think I got lucky playing it as a kid because I grew to love the game without noticing the flaws too much. I never thought to walk past the bosses for example and kneeling with the crystal was the only part I got stuck on.

>> No.2571768

>>2571621
So are you saying that ganes from 1998 are the same era as games from 1985? Because if so then I disagree.

This is where retro runs into trouble. If it's a style then the cutoff is somewhere around either the 16 bit gen or 3d gen. The PS/N64/Saturn gen now becomes 'sonething else' along with the PS2/Xbox/GCN gen as time passes.

If it's a time period 15 yrs ago or whatever, then you start to lump so much together that using time is no longer a useful distinguishing charcteristic between older systems.

>> No.2571806

>>2571650
Now look at Metal Gear Solid compared to all previous Metal Gear games, and tell me with a straight face that it's the same style. Tell me it's "distinctly retro/not modern."

>> No.2571853

>>2571768
>So are you saying that ganes from 1998 are the same era as games from 1985? Because if so then I disagree.

Definitely not. Games are always changing, that's kind of my point. Game design is always changing and each generation is different from the last. Graphically is usually the most obvious change, but game design is equally important. GBA often looks similar to 16 bit era games, but are clearly of a different era when you play them.

But of course we're not going to set up a separate board for every generation. So at this point 1999 seems like a good cutoff date. Dreamcast being retro might be a bit of a stretch for some, but this is probably the best board for it. It's not popular enough to make general threads on /vg/ last like the GBA or PS2 ones do and would get buried on /v/. Maybe in 2020 they'll update the board and let the next generation of retro in, but maybe not. Either way is cool in my opinion.

>> No.2571860

>>2571806
That's a great example, of what I'm talking about actually. Look at Metal Gear Ghost Babel. It looks like the NES era Metal Gears but takes many gameplay cues from Solid. Old looking game with new style design.

>> No.2571880

I never really liked Mario games. There I said it. They're not bad, but not worth the crazy hype they've always had.

>> No.2572164

>>2571853
That's the point - by both standards, including the first 3D consoles don't fit. They don't have the same style as their predecessors, nor are they from the same time period.

But hey, I'm also someone who thinks that the 16-bit era isn't retro.

>> No.2572178

>>2571860
You're sidestepping my point--if GBA should be dismissed solely because its games have "new style design," you'd have to dismiss a lot of 32-bit era games, not to mention Dreamcast, on the same grounds.

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>>2572164
>But hey, I'm also someone who thinks that the 16-bit era isn't retro.

Well there's your problem. The thing is that "retro" isn't a very specific term and we could have debates all day long about who's definition of what's retro is best or most correct and never come to a real consensus.

So for here, we have to think about what works for this board. Obviously they're not going to break it down into a separate forum for each generation. But they did want to give a place where threads about older games wouldn't get instantly buried.

So they arbitrarily picked systems from 1999 as the cut off date and called the board 'retro'. Whether these systems fit your personal definition of what's retro is really beside the point. It was really just done as a way of organizing the board and what they chose makes as much sense as anything to me. Dreamcast threads wouldn't really have another good place to go, but GBA is still popular enough that it does.

Personally I think most GBA games feel a lot more modern than Dreamcast ones.

Also, 3D in a game really isn't a signifier of whether it's retro or not. One of the first games I ever played was in basic 3D and it predated the NES.

>> No.2572204

>>2572178
If that was my point, then yes. But it's not. My point is that the organization of the board is largely arbitrary but works well. GBA shouldn't be dismissed because it has newer design choices, it should be dismissed simply because of it's release date.

My point about game design evolving is that it's constantly evolving and changing. There's no hard line between modern and old game design, it's all a big blur.

>> No.2572227

>>2572164
So you think /vr/ should be limited to just 8 bit and earlier?

>> No.2572369

>>2572202
> So they arbitrarily picked systems from 1999 as the cut off date and called the board 'retro'. Whether these systems fit your personal definition of what's retro is really beside the point. It was really just done as a way of organizing the board and what they chose makes as much sense as anything to me. Dreamcast threads wouldn't really have another good place to go, but GBA is still popular enough that it does.

Right, and this works for now until the pool of "old" video game systems starts to get too large.

Vidya is relatively young and didn't really explode in popularity until the mid 80s. So you realistically have 3 generations of systems under discussion here, with a sprinking of threads discussing Atari and earlier days.

So if you want to say that "15 years" is the cutoff you start adding more systems to the mix, to the point that you will run into the same problem that you were trying to fix by separating retro games out in the first place.

>>2572227
if vr is intended to be a board about legitimately retro games, yes, it should be capped at the 8-bit era or pre 1990 (which then makes the Sega Genesis timeline awkward, so for simplicity 8-bit). If vr is just a tag for 'old shit people don't really play anymore' then no.