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Anonymous Tue Jul 14 16:28:01 2015 No.2539193 [Reply] [Original]

Is the first Super Mario Bros. the perfect (retro) Mario game? I've done a lot of thinking on the subject, and most people tend to agree that Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World are the pinnacle of the series. While both of those games are fantastic, they do have flaws (3 admittedly has more flaws than World, with the erratic level pacing and no save function), while on the other hand, having recently played through the entirety of Super Mario Bros., I can't find anything major wrong with it.

It is perfectly paced, tailor-made for people who have never experienced a 2D platformer before (1-1 alone stands as one of the most smartly designed tutorial levels in history) yet with a steady, robust difficulty curve that concludes in a grand fashion in World 8, which utilizes every single technique beforehand to its highest degree. It is a marvel of game design that I can't see any discernable flaws within.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 16:31:10 2015 No.2539198 >opinions

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 16:54:21 2015 No.2539208 >>2539193 Is there really anything interesting or new to say about SMB? Congratulations, you have a popular opinion on a popular game.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 14 16:54:39 2015 No.2539209
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It's pretty great, don't get me wrong, but I feel if we start mentally masturbating over it too much we'll end up sounding like those tryhard hipsters from extra credits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 17:01:30 2015 No.2539220 >>2539209 Don't watch them, but how are they hipsters?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 17:06:21 2015 No.2539229 >>2539193 Just because something was the first of its kind doesn't make it the best, anyone who really thinks this is the best platformer out there is quite blinded by nostalgia. The genre really didn't fully come into its own until the 90s.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 17:29:49 2015 No.2539271 >>2539193 It's good but it's just a bit boring compared to its successors. So that makes it not perfect.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 17:36:02 2015 No.2539287 >>2539271 It's a bit unfair to critique something based on the merits of what succeeded it.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 14 17:45:01 2015 No.2539306

>>2539287
I don't see why not, it's probably one of the better ways to judge things as they're so similar. Mario Bros 3 is better, so SMB can't be perfect as that'd make SMB3 above perfect.

While we can equally judge SMB3 or World with its successors and most people would say they don't match its level.

But maybe logic reasoning doesn't fit into what's subjective. It's just opinions at the end of the day

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 20:38:36 2015 No.2539661 I just ran through it in what felt like 20 minutes, didn't even die. I even remembered all the mazes, it was awesome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 23:31:50 2015 No.2540207 I felt like the physics were a pain to get used to after 3 and World had better jumping and enemy bopping. Therefore, the physics are the problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 23:39:29 2015 No.2540241 >>2540207 I'm not taking this bait.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 23:40:12 2015 No.2540246 >>2539220 Watch a couple episodes, you'll understand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 14 23:40:28 2015 No.2540247 >>2540241 >When your opinion is so shitty someone else thinks it is bait. Oh. :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 00:15:03 2015 No.2540340 >>2540247 If it makes you feel any better, anon, I agree with what you said even if he doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 00:36:59 2015 No.2540384 >>2539193 World is better than those, but it had a better system to run on and they had a lot of time to tinker with platforming making the first few games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 11:13:14 2015 No.2541045 Super Mario World's one flaw is that the red and blue blocks contain no items when they could very easily have had fire flowers and stars respectively.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 19:54:50 2015 No.2541989 I say Super Mario All-Stars was the pinnacle of the series :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 19:56:14 2015 No.2541991 Sorry but Sonic 2 is the greatest platformer of all time. Find a flaw, literally find one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 20:06:04 2015 No.2542009 >>2541991 Trial and Error? I dunno, spitballing. Special Stages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 21:03:36 2015 No.2542074 >>2541991 The autism of it's fans?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 21:59:30 2015 No.2542204 >>2541991 Final boss is bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 02:58:25 2015 No.2542680 >>2542009 >Trial and Error >a flaw Very funny. >Special Stages But okay, you found one flaw.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 03:01:51 2015 No.2542686 >>2542009 I honestly could never beat all of them when I was a kid. It took a decade of time a second player as tails to finally legit beat all those special stages. Fucking christ who's idea was that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 05:17:04 2015 No.2542829 >>2542686 They're not hard, you just need to memorise the stages.

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Anonymous Thu Jul 16 12:32:04 2015 No.2543324

>>2539661

I don't get how people play SMB1 so easily. I play the Deluxe and All Star versions, which have save features, yet it's still a challenge. I can play a level for a hour before beating it. I can't imagine beating the game in one go, three lives.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 16 13:35:48 2015 No.2543436 >>2543324 >Deluxe Not enough reaction space >All Star versions Fucked up physics