Turtles in Time or Hyperstone Heist?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:18:43 2015 No.2532263 [Reply] [Original]

Turtles in Time or Hyperstone Heist?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:20:45 2015 No.2532264 Two different games. Hyperstone all day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:24:13 2015 No.2532271 >>2532263 Neither, I'd rather play a good beat em up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:26:12 2015 No.2532274 Both are unremarkable games. Anyway Music HH > TiT Graphics TiT > HH Gameplay HH > TiT (just slightly) Levels/Bosses TiT > HH Sound effects TiT > HH Turtles in Time feels more polished overall, like Konami actually gave a shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:27:07 2015 No.2532275 >>2532274 graphics are better in hyperstone you retard there are more frames of animation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:29:23 2015 No.2532281 >>2532275 Marginally better animation don't change that the colors are dull as fuck in the Genesis game, you dolt.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:29:25 2015 No.2532282 >>2532271 OK, what's a "good" beat em up?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:30:50 2015 No.2532286 >>2532281 TiT is definitely brighter and more vibrant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:31:07 2015 No.2532289 >>2532282 On consoles, SoR2 and 3, on arcades, pretty much any top tier brawler.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:35:05 2015 No.2532294 >>2532286 prove it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:36:54 2015 No.2532298 File: 43 KB, 558x294, Side-by-Side-TMNT-Beat-Em-Ups-2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2532294 Quick google search.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:38:20 2015 No.2532301 File: 42 KB, 558x294, Side-by-Side-TMNT-Beat-Em-Ups-3.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2532294

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:38:41 2015 No.2532302
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>>2532289
>pretty much any top tier brawler.
oh, that certainly clears things up
also, why are SoR fans such closed minded pricks, it's like they think it's a war between them and any other beat em up fan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:39:14 2015 No.2532304 >>2532298 so you think that washed out shitty high gamma looking shit is more vibrant than the contrasting genesis colors. You kids really are retarded. Just look at the fucking picture yourself moron. You can see far more detail on the turtles in HH

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:41:35 2015 No.2532310 >>2532298 >>2532301 >>2532304 oh boy, is it time for another retarded color palette war...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:45:31 2015 No.2532314 >>2532282 Cadillacs & Dinosaurs Alien VS Predator Sengoku 3

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 21:45:38 2015 No.2532315
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>>2532304
God some genesis fanboys are retarded and delusional, even when it's one of my fav consoles.

>>2532302
Not even a SoR fan, it's just that SoR games are the only console brawlers to have similar quality to arcade games.

Also, here some games that come to mind since you can't do basic research: Ninja Baseball Bat man, King of Dragons, Alien vs Predator, Final FIght, Undercover Cops, Cadillacs & Dinosaurs, D&D Tower of Doom, Dungeon Magic, Warriors of Fate, Guardians.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:06:17 2015 No.2532352 >>2532315 genesis still looks nicer than the arcade. It just has better contrast between the colors. You're the one that is delusional if you honestly think even that looks better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:07:46 2015 No.2532354 Both are great games, but I prefer Turtles in Time

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:09:52 2015 No.2532360 File: 10 KB, 256x224, Sunset_Riders_GEN_ScreenShot2.jpg.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2532352 What is next dude, Sunset Riders looks better on the Genesis, you aren't convincing anyone.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:40:20 2015 No.2532396

>>2532281
>>2532298
>>2532301
First one is cherry picking, second shows that they have similar palette brightness depending on the stage. Plus, the entire argument is flawed because it assumes that higher contrast is automatically superior to lower contrast. It's simply stylistic.

tl;dr you're retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:49:14 2015 No.2532417 >>2532396 It certainly fits better because the arcade games are like that, the only reason of why the Genesis version looks so dark is because Genesis' color limitations and because Konami sucked developing at it. Don't be retarded, Genesis fanboy.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:56:39 2015 No.2532435

>>2532417
it doesn't matter what the arcade version looks like because the genesis version looks best. It doesn't matter how close the SNES version is to replicating the arcade because the arcade is nothing to write home about. Also that guy >>2532396 is a completely different person you autistic asshole.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 22:57:12 2015 No.2532436

>>2532417
It's not darker. The screencap in >>2532301
clearly shows that. The image in >>2532298
is cherry picked because it's comparing a dark stage to a very light stage. And lighter/dark has nothing to do with palette limitations, the only limited in color would be the number of gradient values available. You keep crying "fanboy fanboy" but you're making completely nonsensical claims. Basically, you're retarded. But I already said that.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:00:17 2015 No.2532440
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>>2532435
Doesn't matter if you are another person, only a retarded Genesis fanboy would think Hyperstone Hesit looks good, let alone better than the arcade.

I don't even like Turtles in Time, but to say Hyperstone looks better is just laughable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:02:32 2015 No.2532448 >>2532440 okay turtles in time has nice backgrounds but the sprites look better in hyperstone heist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:03:50 2015 No.2532452 >>2532448 The animation is not even close to Turtles in Time arcade. Maybe you like the darker color and that's okay, but just your opinion.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:06:33 2015 No.2532458

>>2532452
The animation of the Hyperstone Heist is objectively superior. Also, the game is not darker. That's completely false. Hilariously enough, the wiki entry says
>Though the Genesis/Megadrive has an inferior color palette when compared to the SNES, The Hyperstone Heist appears visually brighter, with a heavier use of color contrast than the SNES game

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:15:39 2015 No.2532467 >>2532458 Confirmed for not reading shit. >The animation is not even close to Turtles in Time ARCADE Also Wiki, really?

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:34:03 2015 No.2532498

Turtles in Time Easily. Hyperstone heist is pretty much just Time with less of everything. Less levels, less bosses, less types of the foot clan, less environmental dangers, less moves the turtles can do. You can't even grab people in HSH. That was something that you could do even on NES Double Dragon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:42:07 2015 No.2532512 >>2532274 >music HH Excuse you https:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-lLbHbG-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL60F983BB751A950A&v=yBPEJPO22pU

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:43:45 2015 No.2532515 >>2532498 You can grab people, the controls are just different, you have to dash-hit and then grab him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:44:39 2015 No.2532516 >>2532498 >You can't even grab people in HSH. That right there confirms you never played the game. Maybe you couldn't hair pull or throw guys into the screen, but you could slam them around like a ragdoll in HSH.

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:47:09 2015 No.2532523

>>2532512
I like it but it has that cheap sampled SNES sound which i'm not a big fan of. Also, the Genesis version sounds closer to the arcade, especially the lead melody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5fwuZwsex0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkWpqi0cVec

Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:48:37 2015 No.2532524

>>2532516

On the main topic, why pick one? To satisfy some long-dead console war fetish that people have? Each version was pretty cool for some reason or another, and I love them both for it, even if they were pretty much carbon-copies of each other(with more or less thrown in). HSH gets brownie points for throwing in Tatsu from the movies...TiT gets points for throwing in Bebop and Rocksteady as the most incompetent pirates of all time. HSH has the music; TiT has a longer game(which could be a good or bad thing, depending).

I will never choose one or the other...try harder if you want a fanboy response from me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:52:49 2015 No.2532534 I like Hyperstone better because I grew up with the Turtles in Time arcade and the SNES port feels too cut down for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 11 23:53:52 2015 No.2532536 >>2532534 Well it has a lot more solid combat which is important, but everything else is worse.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:00:27 2015 No.2532545

The Hyperstone Heist has longer levels, faster gameplay and is generally more difficult. Combine this with its better sprites, animation and superior OST and you've got the reason why I prefer it to SNES Turtles in Time. Another thing is that HH specifically recreates levels from both TiT and the first arcade game in addition to adding new levels.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:12:40 2015 No.2532559 >>2532545 I think it plays just as good, but presentation-wise it feels kinda rushed, not as polished as Turtles in Time (reused backgrounds, fewer levels, fewer bosses, boss rush in excuse of having few levels and bosses etc)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:40:36 2015 No.2532595 >>2532298 The right one is too bright for my neckbeard eyes to handle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:45:25 2015 No.2532606 File: 69 KB, 640x480, 1433005254264.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2532524 Ha nigga got told so hard he's pretending he likes both equally now.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:52:18 2015 No.2532619

>>2532524
I guess you technically can grab them, but the move is random and it doesn't work at all as a mechanic. You cannot throw people at the screen. The only thing better about Hyperstone is it had Shredder's sidekick from the first movie as a boss.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 00:55:24 2015 No.2532629 >>2532274 >Both are unremarkable games. This. I really don't know where the love for them comes from. There's way better beat em ups on both systems.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:01:20 2015 No.2532649 >>2532619 >but the move is random This guy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 01:53:21 2015 No.2532751 >>2532619 >random No it's not random, you are confusing it with the arcade. >You cannot throw people at the screen That is an irrelevant gimmick to be honest, no idea why Konami removed it anyway, probably lazyness.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 03:04:23 2015 No.2532819

>>2532606

Wow, you think we're all the same guy? Every day I meet someone who drains IQ points by breathing...today, you are that guy. Further, no one 'told' me anything, least of all you. This has been my stance since before 4chan existed.

>>2532619
>>2532751

MOSTLY, the 'throw into the screen' gimmick was a gimmick, but it was the only way to beat one boss. A shame they didn't incorporate it more into the game...that was a unique twist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 04:08:33 2015 No.2532892 File: 2.04 MB, 1440x1080, 1435220101835.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2532819 Keep back peddling nigga.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 13:30:07 2015 No.2533567

The bosses are better in Turtles in Time. Compare their pre-battle quotes:

Leatherhead

TiT: "Oh goodie, fresh turtles for lunch."
HH: "You are too immature to hang with me."

Bebop and Rocksteady

TiT: "You're walking the plank, shell-brains."
HH: "You look delicious. I'm hungry for some turtle soup!"

Baxter Stockman

TiT: "Terminate the turtles."
HH: "My Mousers will stop you!"

Krang

TiT: "Face the wrath of Super Krang!" and "You shell-heads are dead."
HH: "I'll show you the power of Super Krang!"

Super Shredder

TiT: "Turtle soup, my favorite."
HH: "Now I'll show you the real power of the Hyperstone."

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 14:59:17 2015 No.2533745 >There are actually people who think HH is better Such shitty taste. TiT is longer, has better graphics, better sound, better controls, and better boss battles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 15:02:35 2015 No.2533757 >>2533745 You're literally the biggest shitposter ITT. Congrats.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 15:07:05 2015 No.2533761 >>2533757 It's not shitposting if it's the truth. TiT is objectively better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 15:45:27 2015 No.2533827 these games were fantastic the cartoon and movies weren't all that great. video games are TMNT's real contribution to culture

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 16:33:30 2015 No.2533915 >>2533827 The Turtles games didn't get good until Turtles in Time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 16:43:47 2015 No.2533935 >>2532892 Keep showing off your reaction images, pudding head.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:18:03 2015 No.2533986 File: 9 KB, 255x247, 1435930050112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2533935

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:22:25 2015 No.2533995 >>2533761 Both are equally mediocre, you are essentially saying a shit is better than other shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:30:54 2015 No.2534013 >>2533995 Only Hyperstone Heist is mediocre.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:35:41 2015 No.2534026 >short levels >slow gameplay >drastically easier >dumb enemy AI Turtles in Time is for casuals. And if you aren't playing the Arcade version of Turtles in Time, you are playing a completely inferior game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:37:47 2015 No.2534032 >>2534013 Both are mediocre and play the same, the only thing TiT has over HH is more varied presentation, but that doesn't change the vanilla lackluster beat 'em up combat.

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:39:44 2015 No.2534037

>>2534013
Both are mediocre and play the same, the only thing TiT has over HH is more varied presentation, but that doesn't change the vanilla lackluster beat 'em up combat.

>>2534026
The AI point is valid, it's certainly more aggressive and harder on the Genesis game, however you can still kill everything just sliding all the time.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:44:14 2015 No.2534042 >>2534026 >And if you aren't playing the Arcade version of Turtles in Time, you are playing a completely inferior game. Man, I love fighting enemies that ignore hitstun!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:47:53 2015 No.2534047 >>2534042 I don't know how people enjoyed that shit back then, it's unplayable and meant to steal your money, good graphics can do magic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:52:12 2015 No.2534053 File: 74 KB, 632x350, youdumbmotherfucker.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2534042 So not only you anal pained, you're also a straight up liar? Nice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:55:13 2015 No.2534061 >>2534053 Not only am I not the person you were originally arguing about, I was not talking about the Genesis version lacking hitstun. I was talking about the arcade version lacking it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 17:56:42 2015 No.2534070 >>2534053 This nigga has serious problems with reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 18:08:50 2015 No.2534102 File: 76 KB, 509x333, youarehtisdumb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2534061 Except there's the part where there's hitstun in the arcade version, dingus.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 18:11:23 2015 No.2534112 >>2534102 That's just a hurt animation, no a proper hit-stun, the arcade Turtles in Time has terrible combat and is impossible to 1cc without using exploits and cheap garbage.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 18:12:29 2015 No.2534115 File: 763 KB, 800x800, laughing_nekoII.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2534112 >That's just a hurt animation, no a proper hit-stun

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 18:19:19 2015 No.2534124

>>2534115
Nigga please, i know this garbage game more than you do. The only way to do a safe "combo" is to temporize your hits by around 1 second, otherwise your enemy will move and you will probably get hit if you just mash buttons, because there is no combo system as such, that's why the people that try to 1cc this game mostly use dash, jump and heavy attacks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 18:24:25 2015 No.2534141 File: 39 KB, 480x325, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2532440 This

Anonymous Sun Jul 12 18:31:55 2015 No.2534160

Honestly as far as the Arcade and SNES port goes, I like them both more in different ways. The audio in the Arcade does have more coherent voices, and some of the music is nicer, but overall the SNES sounds like it enunciates the instruments better (if that makes sense), giving it more pop. The arcade also has 4 player co-op, but that's arguably better. The arcade also had better sprite animation.

The SNES version has Mode 7 going for it which changes Neon Night riders in arguably a better way. It also had more bosses. Also I haven't played the arcade version since 2004, but if I remember correctly, you can't throw enemies towards the screen on purpose.

Also, I find it odd that people haven't mentioned that in HSH, a few assets and stages were copied straight out of the first Arcade.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 19:26:32 2015 No.2534341 >>2533915 What else does avgn have to say about it? I'm curious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 21:09:02 2015 No.2534592 >>2534341 You tell us, as you seem to be familiar with his body of work. I dunno if AVGN ever said that, but it's not exactly a bold statement. Even TMNT3 is just a decent game that doesn't even stand up to the best beat-em-ups on the NES.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 21:39:02 2015 No.2534687 >People actually believing that HH has better music than TiT I mean sure, if your qualifications for good music is "sounds like the Genesis" then I guess I could understand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 12 21:47:07 2015 No.2534710 >>2534687 Stop trolling and pray for Iwata's family.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:42:24 2015 No.2537035

>>2534687
godly FM > poor cut compressed samples sounding like ducks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO5TaLbxtys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-WcjYIup8U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q19PB2Mt6jc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbj-SJuEA6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swAfubCXo0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbhNo7iIF0w

The leads were ok, but everything else was kinda shitty.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 17:49:36 2015 No.2537056 >>2532629 It's basically the best Turtles game that panders to the 80s series. People love it because it's a decent game that captures a beloved cartoon fairly well.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:13:44 2015 No.2537123

>>2537056
The graphics, animation, and music are all godly. It is a blast to play with friends and it was really easy to get 4 player games going in the arcade. It also was all over the place.

It is a pretty good game. I've played bad beat em ups. There are many, and Turtles isn't one of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:14:44 2015 No.2537125 File: 11 KB, 138x200, 1433115088437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2537035 >poor cut compressed samples sounding like ducks It really does sound like that holy shit I can't unhear it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:19:21 2015 No.2537137 >>2537123 The arcade is a bad game IMO, but as you said, the presentation is fantastic and the main reason of why people liked it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:20:56 2015 No.2537143 >>2537123 The arcade is a bad game IMO, combat is broken at best. But as you said, the presentation is fantastic and the main reason of why people liked it. SNES version has better combat but lost all the eyecandy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:25:19 2015 No.2537153 >>2537125 Once you actually listen to what a lot of SNES samples actually sound like it becomes less and less possible to enjoy SNES music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:26:17 2015 No.2537156 >>2532286 >definitely brighter and more vibrant I'm a pretty die hard snes fanboy, but genesis looks better guys, sorry to break it to you. >>2532440 read above and all of you seriously stop acting like children, I like both, I prefer HH just because.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:35:42 2015 No.2537173

>>2537156
>still thinking a rushjob has better graphics than TMNT Arcade

Complete foot troopers roster on HH:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/genesis_32x_scd/tmnthyperstoneheist/sheet/6164/

Some foot troopers on the TiT arcade:
http://www.spriters-resource.com/arcade/teenagemutantninjaturtlesivturtlesintime/sheet/46830/
http://www.spriters-resource.com/arcade/teenagemutantninjaturtlesivturtlesintime/sheet/53602/
http://www.spriters-resource.com/arcade/teenagemutantninjaturtlesivturtlesintime/sheet/51654/
http://www.spriters-resource.com/arcade/teenagemutantninjaturtlesivturtlesintime/sheet/51588/
http://www.spriters-resource.com/arcade/teenagemutantninjaturtlesivturtlesintime/sheet/46533/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:52:54 2015 No.2537210 >>2537143 Would be interesting to see someone try to hack the arcade version to make the controls and such more similar to the SNES version.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:54:10 2015 No.2537212 >>2537173 Man, back in the day arcade machines really were powerhouses of 2D game animation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:56:27 2015 No.2537214 >>2537173 Nothing beats arcade this was a comparison of Snes and gen games

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 18:58:45 2015 No.2537220 >>2537210 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_87C9D5Rtws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UDL6S-l_2o This is your best bet, there is a demo but it's not out yet.

Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:00:48 2015 No.2537223

>>2537143
I don't know, when I think broken, to use the most recent example I've played, I'd think something like Anet Futatabi, where I had to just turn off the system because a boss wandered off the side of the level and never returned. That's a broken beat em up. And that's Wolfteam quality.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 13 19:06:39 2015 No.2537243 >>2537223 Maybe broken is a bit harsh, but the controls and combat are very random and uncontrollable, they used pretty much the same combat engine from the first TMNT arcade game, which sucks. It's not a very fun game to "git gut" at.

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