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2525526 No.2525526 [Reply] [Original]

Can we get a thread about classic shmups like Gradius, Darius, Star Soldier, Fantasy Zone, Aleste, etc. Most of the time I see discussions about shoot 'em ups, it's usually bullet hells and Touhou that steal the entire focus of the thread. It would be nice to talk about something like Gradius for a change. Horizontal shooters seem to get the least appreciation anymore.

>> No.2525560

>>2525526
People talk about Gradius all the time here, Anon-kun.

>> No.2525562
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2525562

I managed to clear loop 2 of the NES Gradius a few days ago. It's nowhere near as ridiculous as the loop 2 of the arcade version, but it got me a pretty nice looking score. Not quite a counterstop but

>> No.2525567

>>2525562
And I forgot to mention, this was a run where I died near the end of loop 1. I thought I was done but I somehow managed to claw my way back, when I was down to my last life no less.

>> No.2525832

>>2525526
The traditional scrolling shmups are my favorite kind, followed by the manic shooters, and then the static/fixed shooters, and then the on-rails Space Harrier variety. Arena shooters would be second or third if you want to count those. Regardless though, there's not nearly enough appreciation for the classic style anymore. Gradius, 194X, Parodius, and Aleste are equal or better than any bullet curtain series. Star Soldier as well once it moved to the TG-16.

>> No.2525868

neogeo had a bunch of neat rtype copycats
pulstar
last resort
blazing star


I've heard that part of the original rtype team worked on those games when they left irem
zed blade is also worthy checking out for the awesome soundtrack

>> No.2525886

does /vr/ like Twinklestar Sprites?

i like Twinklestar Sprites :3

>> No.2525892

>>2525886

I sure like it, it's really fun with friends. It's one of our three best two players games, along with Windjammers and Puyo Puyo.

The saturn version is the best one, if you haven't tried it yet, because the arrange version has a few extra characters, and an exra disc full of fan artwork (sometimes pretty bad but hey, they were likely teenagers).

>> No.2525896

I havn't really played much of the star soldiers. What are the series highlights?

>> No.2525906
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2525906

Super Alestate/Space Mega Force is a pet game of mine.

Its arguable one of the ugliest shmups ever made and feels like it was still in the beta stages of graphics.

The weapon system is pretty impressive. 10 Different weapons with at least 2 different firing modes for each. The enemies also drop power ups a ton so you can just fuck around and switch weapons every 10 seconds. They are actually surprisingly well balanced.

It's a very claustrophobic shmup and there's destructible environments on almost every single screen (minus the one open space level).

Pretty good music too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp0UJA5axtg&list=PL1ED6389785C4A71E&index=13

>> No.2525910

>>2525526
Gradius is my favourite shmup series easily with iv being personal fav. I played verts exclusively for years but now i find myself always playing horis which somehow always seem more atmospheric and tense to navigate through.

>> No.2525914
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2525914

Argus!

>> No.2525937

>>2525562
do you know about the romhack to make gradius more like the arcade version?

>> No.2526000

>>2525906

Love this game. I think it gets overshadowed by other Aleste titles way too much, particularly MUSHA. Now, whilst MUSHA is a better game imo Super Aleste has great merit of its own and stands out a mile on the shmup starved SNES, equalled only by Axelay and R-Type III probably.

Can't say I agree about the graphics. It's certainly very plain but "one of the ugliest shmups ever made"? I dunno, there's been some pretty fugly shmups.

That house inspired soundtrack though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rib1NYVQnlE&index=6&list=PL1ED6389785C4A71E

>> No.2526035

>>2525937
I had no idea such a thing existed, but it sounds sick.

>> No.2526043
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2526043

Found it.

Oh man, they fixed Big Core's sprite so he actually looks like Big Core now.

>> No.2526050
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2526050

It looks like your shield still protects the entire ship, unlike the original shield. That was one of the hardest things to adjust to, going from NES to AC.

>> No.2526059

Daily reminder that the best STG ever made is Ikaruga. Its sad but its the truth.

>> No.2526061

>>2526059
yeah can't argue with truth

>> No.2526063

>>2526059
>Its

>> No.2526064

>>2526059
>Daily reminder that the best STG ever made is Ikaruga.
0.4/10

>> No.2526068

>>2526059
>playing absorb-em-ups

>> No.2526079

>>2526068
lewd...

>> No.2526101

>>2526035
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1573/
same guy does one for pretty much all the nes konami shooters.

>> No.2526105

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKJqyvz-lc4
I don't think Powerstrike 2 gets enough of a mention, probably because it wasn't released in the us. It's a compile game exclusive to the Master System. I've also been playing a hack for GG Aleste 2 (also called Powerstrike 2 in the west but a different game) which makes it playable on the SMS.

>> No.2526107

>>2526105
>probably because it wasn't released in the us

Not sure that'd make much of a difference considering the SMS's dismal performance in that region. Nice to see someone mention it though. Probably my favourite shmup on that system despite the sprite flickering.

>> No.2526159

>>2525896
The three TG-16 games are among the best in the genre. I think they were called Super Star Soldier, Soldier Blade, and Final Soldier, though I'd have to look those up to be sure of the names.

>> No.2526163

>>2525906
Compile is my favorite shoot 'em up developer and that's one of their best games. NO ONE did weapons systems in shmups better than Compile.

>> No.2526167

>>2526000
I prefer Space Megaforce over MUSHA, but overall Compile's best games are probably Blazing Lazers, Spriggan, and Gun*Nac.

>> No.2526168

>>2526059
It's the best of the 20th century.

>> No.2526194

>>2526059
I prefer Radiant Silvergun

>> No.2526197
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2526197

This was my first Sega Genesis game (along with Sanic 1).

Blew my mind.

>> No.2526368

What do you guys think of Captain Tomaday for Neo Geo?

>> No.2526556

>>2526059
>Daily reminder that the best STG ever made is Ikaruga.
sorry, but that's not Touhou 6

>> No.2526603
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2526603

Did anyone else play the MSX1 Gradius / Nemesis trilogy? I thought the second and third installments were pretty innovative. You could add new weapons to your power-up meter by absorbing weapons from bosses you've defeated. Too bad that mechanic was never used in later sequels.

If I'm not mistaken, Gradius II / Nemesis II for the MSX1 is available on Gradius Collection for PSP. I don't think it's an emulated port, though. I believe they altered the graphics and implemented smoother scrolling. There was also a remake for Sharp X68k. (Pic related)

>> No.2526628
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2526628

I wonder how many others know about this little gem. Sega decided to make a compilation of every Fantasy Zone for the PS2, minus the licensed NES / Famicom ports. (They did include a "Neo Classic" arrangement of Fantasy Zone that looks and feels similar to the Famicom version, though) Also included is a remake of Fantasy Zone II using (enhanced) System-16 hardware, which of course is emulated.

There are quite a few unlockables in this collection. I think someone over at SMS Power! documented all of them. A lot of them are hidden menu items that you have to use controller inputs to unlock.

If you can't import, this game works great with Free McBoot. It can even be loaded from a USB drive without any lag, since there aren't any FMVs anywhere.

>> No.2526652

>>2526059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vAO6akjqdg

>> No.2526663

>>2526368
Never understood how a can of corn can tranfom you in a baby bottle.

>> No.2526683

>>2526163
Super Aleste wasn't developed by Compile. It is why it's so shitty.

>> No.2526717

>>2526556
>Embodiment of Random Walls
nah

>> No.2526817
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2526817

Nemesis 2 is on the Japanese only life force PSP collection. There's really good ports of nemesis 2 and salamander on psx and Saturn through the konami msx collection

>> No.2526843

>>2526817
Aw shit they fixed the choppy msx scrolling.
Too bad they didn't port the x68000 version of nemesis 3.

>> No.2526921

>>2526101
I'm still amazed at how far he went with this. Even including a new options menu and adding scrolling to stage 2 and 4.

Reminds me of that homebrew Master System port someone recently made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo4MbThsk_0

Skip to 2:48 for actual footage

>> No.2526974

>>2526683
It's awesome and I'm pretty sure that's bullshit.

>> No.2528248
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2528248

Sengoku Blade

>> No.2530604
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2530604

Please, lets not start a war here.

>> No.2530648

>>2528248
I've definitely fapped to hentai of that game but never played it.

>> No.2530670
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2530670

I just discovered an arcade game called Tenkomori Shooting where you play shmup minigames with different goals (usually "shoot something X number of times" or "destroy X number of something"). It's surprisingly fun! Makes me wonder why there aren't more "minigame shooters".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQH-tEp2_9I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBUUXNzfsx8

>> No.2530716

>>2526921
>Reminds me of that homebrew Master System port someone recently made.
Damn that looks pretty good, the slowdowns are a bit annoying but the graphics are great. Hope it works on my Genesis everdrive.

>> No.2530743

Bio-Hazard Battle - Sega Genesis / Mega Drive

>> No.2530779
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2530779

Sweet, a shmup thread! I hope you guys don't tear me apart for ps1 not being retro but I've been enjoying the shit out of pic related for the last week. I've been trying to do a one credit run and it's making me pull my hair out in frustration (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) when I get up to stage five. I thought stage four was hard but fuck me stage five requires such memorization and perfect flying that I just end up starting the whole thing over so at least I can perfect the previous stages.

Still, fucking brilliant game. Last time I played it before this week was on a ps1 demo disk and I'm kicking myself for not getting it earlier.