/vr/ - Retro Games

[Anonymous No.2512125]

Uh, guys? Someone just found a fucking prototype console for the SNES Nintendo Playstation.

Story:
>Dad used to work at a company where Olaf, his co-worker, used worked at Nintendo
>Company went under. Dad was clearing stuff out there and found a box labeled "junk" that Olaf was supposed to throw out and that's where the console was found
>Came with a fucking prototype CD and cartridge.
>Nobody has a clue what's on them.
>OP currently searching for a power supply with the correct wattage, doesn't want to fry the thing.

Guy is currently posting on a forum under the name Dnldbld, check there for updates. http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/nintendo-snes-playstation-finally-uncovered.57166/).). Dumping pictures in the mean time.

[Anonymous No.2512127]

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[Anonymous No.2512135]

[Anonymous No.2512137]

Last image the guy uploaded. Let's hope he gets this shit up and running soon.

[Anonymous No.2512145]

o_0

[Anonymous No.2512149]

[Anonymous No.2512152]

>>2512137
>Sony PlayStation
>SNES controller

[Anonymous No.2512157]

Holy shit

[Anonymous No.2512158]

>>2512125
i really hope that cart is a game, and i hope it's all kinds of crazy

[Anonymous No.2512159]

>>2512125
>>Came with a fucking prototype CD and cartridge.
>>Nobody has a clue what's on them.

[Anonymous No.2512167]

>>2512158
more likely it's going to be tech demos

[Anonymous No.2512169]

I'm so excited.

[Anonymous No.2512176]

>>2512152
Wasn't the playstation originally intended to be an SNES accessory?

[Anonymous No.2512178]

>>2512176
yeah, it was gonna give the SNES a CD drive, which every other major console (in Japan) had at the time.

[Anonymous No.2512182]

>>2512167
"demo use" is what is written on the cart

[Anonymous No.2512202]

>>2512158
>Earthbound 3 proto

[Anonymous No.2512209]

Wow, an unfinished piece of hardware with no games.

Not /vr/, take it to /g/.

[Anonymous No.2512210]

>>2512209
that is something I would expect that Totse Redux tripfag to say

[Anonymous No.2512213]

>>2512167
Or maybe it's a map to the portal that takes you to the Pokemon world.

[Anonymous No.2512214]

>>2512209
0/10

I am dumbfounded this has never turned up before. How many of these exist, I wonder?

[Anonymous No.2512215]

>>2512213
That's stupid. Why would Nintendo need a map to the basement of their own HQ?

[Anonymous No.2512221]

>>2512214
After Sony and Nintendo had their falling out, there was some unpleasantness involving the yakuza. All known hardware and most of the development team were lost.

[Anonymous No.2512225]

>>2512178
>>2512176
>>2512152
Look up the book "Digital Dreams" by Paul Kunkel. There's a bit on the SNES/Playstation thing in there.

[Anonymous No.2512258]

>>2512209
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.2512269]

This shit got past the drawing phase and they made a prototype?

Holy fuck. This is like on the level of the Sega Pluto

[Anonymous No.2512271]

>>2512129

Can anyone read these runes?

[Anonymous No.2512294]

>>2512271
For demo

[Anonymous No.2512316]

>>2512125
fucking hell these always end up in the hands of dumbcunts who don't know how to dump roms/isos or refuse to lend it so people in order to do so. I hope that guys not a faggot.

[Anonymous No.2512321]

If this had come to actual fruition (as in sold), I wonder if it would have taken longer for 3D graphics to become commonplace in games.
Nintendo didn't start Project Reality (Initial R&D for the Ultra64 console) until Sony's own PlayStation was announced.

Without Nintendo driving semiconductor fabs like NEC to acquire licenses from MIPS and Silicon Graphics and mass produce those chips, 3D graphics hardware was fucking expensive for use in consumer products.

I'd also like to see what is on the demo disc. I believe the demo shown in this webm was actually completed in 1994, but surely it isn't this.

[Anonymous No.2512343]

At least post the good pic OP.

[Anonymous No.2512364]

You guys realize that's just a SNES dev station that's been repainted, right?

[Anonymous No.2512365]

>>2512364
What's with the CD drive then?

[Anonymous No.2512369]

>>2512365
How do you think they transferred data back then?

[Anonymous No.2512372]

>>2512125
>Dad used to work at a company where Olaf, his co-worker, used worked at Nintendo
Weird coincidence, the CEO of Sony Interactive was Olaf Olaffson from 1991 to 1996.

[Anonymous No.2512378]

>>2512369
Floppy discs, or if you had loads of money, CD-R or Flash memory. There was also Ethernet, dial-up, infrared, or others, but those are usually complex to set-up.

[Anonymous No.2512382]

>>2512378
Exactly, so why are you asking?

[Anonymous No.2512383]

>>2512382
Because you said it was a repainted SNES dev station. I don't think those came equipped with a disc drive.

[Anonymous No.2512386]

>>2512382
>the cd drive is obviously used to transfer data to the normal dev station!
>>but these methods were primarily used at that time due to being inexpensive and reliable
>EXACTLY!

Gosh you're dumb.
Also that's not a SNES dev unit.

[Anonymous No.2512393]

>>2512369
An EEPROM programmer. They were connected to computers via DB-25 or DE-9 Serial Port. They would flash a compiled ROM image onto the actual chip. The chips were dual-inline-package (DIP), so they could be taken in and out of either the sockets on the programmer or the cartridge board.

And in the beginning, Nintendo didn't have much (some, but not much) in the way of SDK Hardware for developers. This led to some developers making their own, like this one by Factor 5. Which also uses the same serial port, but this time, straight to an in-circuit emulator on the board itself, instead of having to flash a ROM.

>>2512386
That's another good example. This is a third-party dev system as well, manufactured by Ricoh and sold to many developers, such as Konami and Intelligent Systems.

[Anonymous No.2512401]

but does the demo work?

[Anonymous No.2512402]

>>2512401
We have to wait and see; the guy needs to get a power supply to turn the thing on.

[Anonymous No.2512438]

My question is what are the specs of this system? Is it just a standard snes with a disc drive? Or is it slightly more powerful. I think the Philips snes-cd was going to be more powerful.

Some specs for the add-on
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4cc2TZRufDtWERQV2FHZFhFaU1odEdTbWlTTHB1REJRNXdr/view?pli=1

[Anonymous No.2512465]

>>2512364
Ah yes, the famous Playstation dev station

[Anonymous No.2512474]

>>2512127
I'm sure someone somewhere has already mentioned this, but that port labeled "NEXT" looks a lot like the "DIGITAL A/V OUT" port on the back of my Gamecube.

[Anonymous No.2512478]

>>2512474
I think PlayStation 2s have that, don't know about the original PlayStation.

[Anonymous No.2512489]

>>2512127
>>2512478
dat s-video out is pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.2512508]

>>2512372
lol I actually know that name because its in the sky blazer credits. I made note of it because how funny his name is.

[Anonymous No.2512510]

that will be one edgy demo

[Anonymous No.2512535]

>>2512125
>day discolored plastic
as expected of a nintendo

[Anonymous No.2512612]

No one tried to turn it on and see whats in the cartridge?

[Anonymous No.2512613]

>>2512612
>>2512402

[Anonymous No.2512620]

It's amazing to see a prototype of this. It's truly something of inestimable value. I wonder how story would have been if Nintendo and Sony actually partnered up.

Makes sense how Nintendo turned down the deal though, their name isn't even anywhere in the hardware.

[Anonymous No.2512624]

>>2512620
why would you put a logo on a prototype anyway

[Anonymous No.2512635]

>>2512125
>assemblergames.com

Confirmed to be a scam.

[Anonymous No.2512637]

>>2512635
that yellowed plastic looks convincing to me

[Anonymous No.2512660]

>>2512635
He had to move it to that thread since Reddit is being retarded atm.

[Anonymous No.2512673]

>>2512321
It would more than likely dominate the market with the iron hand, and could slowdown the progress in the industry. I guess Sega and Microsoft would have to colab into Segasoft and sonic would take the place of the paper clip mascot in Word... Gonna save fast!

[Anonymous No.2512680]

If you want some more info on this thing:

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/06/01/business/sony-nintendo-s-partner-will-be-a-rival-too.html

Looks like it was a horrible deal for Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.2512684]

>>2512343
>>2512125
Here's a pic of the supposed "final version."

You can note a few differences from OPs pics.

[Anonymous No.2512686]

[Anonymous No.2512687]

>>2512680

>"I don't want to call them video games anymore," said Mr. Kleiber

Mr. Kleiber knew

[Anonymous No.2512723]

>>2512125
Why is it that every post that starts "Uh, guys" turns out to be retarded?

[Anonymous No.2512768]

>>2512680
>Looks like it was a horrible deal for Nintendo.
Naturally, Nintendo did not understand the value of optical disc technology. To them it was nothing more than a unregulated disposable medium easily destroyed by children, of which was their target audience. They never saw what the savings in production costs meant for developers.

On-top-of-which Sony reaped all of the benefits by piggyback riding Nintendo's existing library. And, Sony was willing to take major cuts in royalties to sign developers, while doing away with virtually every quality standard Nintendo demanded. Sony jewed the fuck out of Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.2512771]

HOLY SHIT

[Anonymous No.2512773]

>>2512723
What about the post is retarded?

[Anonymous No.2512790]

>>2512773
OMG he doesn't know!

[Anonymous No.2512878]

>>2512127
For people that think Nintendo wasn't getting screwed over by Sony, look at this pic. Even the font on the back of the system was Sony-fied

[Anonymous No.2512884]

>>2512878
How, pray tell, does that mean Nintendo was being screwed over?
By that logic the Sharp Twin Famicom was screwing Nintendo over because the shell doesn't look like a famicom shell...

[Anonymous No.2512887]

>>2512884
It was a joke.

[Anonymous No.2512910]

THIS BETTER NOT BE A FUCKIN HOAX GUYS

[Anonymous No.2512919]

>>2512149
good article
thx

[Anonymous No.2512929]

This is freaky.
Last night I had a dream about a PS3 that had the same design as the PS1
It was so fucking cool.

christ im a geek

[Anonymous No.2512932]

>>2512929

lol such a nerd

[Anonymous No.2512946]

>>2512929

[Anonymous No.2512960]

>>2512929
post tits please

[Anonymous No.2512969]

He posted a vid:

https://youtu.be/dCV6RusogAk

[Anonymous No.2512985]

>>2512969
im definitely convinced this is real now, look at his profile and uploaded videos - no way this is a fabricated hoax

[Anonymous No.2512991]

>>2512969
REKT NON-BELIEVERS

[Anonymous No.2512994]

>>2512969
oh god its just some douche
this needs to be put in the hands of an expert

[Anonymous No.2512997]

>>2512474
Looking at the PS1 pic two posts down, I'll bet "NEXT" is what became the link cable port on the original PSX.

[Anonymous No.2512998]

>>2512997
yes, he should find another one and link them together

[Anonymous No.2513000]

>>2512994
hes from le reddit apparently and yeah he sounds like a douche.

[Anonymous No.2513008]

>>2513000
>>2512994

>guy taking the time to take pictures and videos for video game history

>LOL WHAT A DOUCHE FUCKING IDIOT DOESNT EVEN LIKE VIDYA GAMES!@!@

/vr/ is shit, you're no better than /v/ no matter how much you spout that you are.

[Anonymous No.2513016]

Now hello, this is interesting.

[Anonymous No.2513021]

>>2512637
It would be damn hard to make a custom piece of plastic like the one around the controller ports in that mix of yellow and bluish white. Old farts know those colors by heart because it hits you so hard right in the feels.

You can even tell that it was stored for years with the controller plugged in because it kept the plastic under it from yellowing. ;_;

[Anonymous No.2513053]

It's hilarious how many people are taking this seriously. Even people on forums I've known and somewhat respected for a long time are making fools of themselves by contemplating whether it's real or not.

Nothing that has been shown that couldn't be easily faked with enough attention to detail.

>My dad worked at Nintendo and he brought home a Nintendo/Playstation hybrid prototype
>People are actually believing this elementary school bullshit

[Anonymous No.2513062]

>>2513053
>if I pretend its fake, then people will like me because im a special snowflake

[Anonymous No.2513065]

>>2513053
>mmm look at all these losers showing interest in something that is potentially interesting. how HILARIOUS!
if it's fake, it's fake. until then, I'll check in on it every now and then.

[Anonymous No.2513081]

>>2512125
Pretty amazing this thing and the prototype controller managed to make its way out into the wild. I figure some collector would have snatched it up and placed it under lock and key and charged admission for people to even look at it.

[Anonymous No.2513105]

>>2513053
I know, what a bunch of idiots. Like it was just something hanging around his dad's basement. These people clearly need to get out more, read the newspaper, even watching tv would help their tenuous grasp of the outside world.

[Anonymous No.2513106]

I don't buy it. This could easily be a cleverly fabricated forgery using components from a SNES/SFC, a SCPH-1001 PlayStation and a custom made shell. That color would not be hard to duplicate with paint.

[Anonymous No.2513109]

>>2513105
"everyone on the internet except me has no life" is my favorite meme

[Anonymous No.2513113]

>>2513106
No offense to the dude, but he doesn't seem smart or patient enough to get near-exact dimensions of this to fabricate it on his own. I''ve got most of the visible parts, and I wouldn't do it. I'd have done it already if that were the case.

[Anonymous No.2513123]

>>2513113
Don't you know how easy it is to make stuff like this man? everyone that owns anything rare is a master plastic craftsman, that can make near-perfect fakes.

Heck! I wouldn't be surprised if he 3D printed it, electronics and all!

[Anonymous No.2513131]

>>2513053
>My dad worked at Nintendo and he brought home a Nintendo/Playstation hybrid prototype

>reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.2513149]

>>2513113
Doesn't have to be made by him. I'm not saying he's some sort of frontman, but someone else could have made it, then got real uncomfortable with the thing and cast it aside.

[Anonymous No.2513175]

Panasonic M2 consoles have turned up in the wild, Sega Plutos have been found after decades. Undiscovered Famicom games still get discovered years later. This is actually the most reasonable way for something like this to turn up, some rando in Denver finding it in his Dad's stuff. I'm really curious what exactly his Dad did at Nintendo, and how this prototype even made it out of Japan. Still, it's totally believable.

[Anonymous No.2513186]

>>2513106
The rear I/O is nothing like a SCPH-1000 though dude. Nice try though.

[Anonymous No.2513191]

>>2513106
I bet you also think 9/11 was an inside job, don't you?

[Anonymous No.2513193]

>>2513106
This is the /vr/ equivalent of "Jews did 9/11."

[Anonymous No.2513201]

>>2513186
Not him, but look again.

[Anonymous No.2513203]

>>2513201
And here's the photo of the unit in question.

[Anonymous No.2513212]

>>2513203
Yes I know, they're different. Plus, the 1000 I/O hides behind a sheet of plastic. Point is, different molds.

[Anonymous No.2513213]

>>2513193
You're Hitler.
See, we can all be fucking joke cancers.

[Anonymous No.2513215]

Have they not tried running the cartridge on a regular Super Famicom? Maybe open up the cart and see what's inside? If there's some special chip on there you don't want to fry it.

[Anonymous No.2513216]

>>2513203
Sony was really pushing that plug layout for powered RF switch back then. I think it was on a couple of camcorders too. I would _expect_ that shit on the back of something like this.

[Anonymous No.2513217]

>>2513201

>>2513186
>Nice try though.

[Anonymous No.2513218]

>>2513201
>>2513203

[Anonymous No.2513232]

>>2512768
I'm surprised how nintendo is staying afloat perfectly despite all the really bad decisions they made. Especially from the start with sticking to carts.

[Anonymous No.2513236]

>>2512946
>gloss
>not sticking to that classic matte grey

come on sony

[Anonymous No.2513239]

>>2513232
These days, I wouldn't say they're perfectly afloat, what with the Wii U being a total disappointment and causing losses for the company for the first time in its entire history. They are getting by for the time being, however. Who knows what they're gonna do with the Next or whatever it's called.

[Anonymous No.2513242]

>>2513191
That's gotta be the most idiotic thing to bring up here, /vr/ is just about the most passive, docile, languid, conformist, indifferent, detached board here, IF there actually WAS solid evidence of any of a number of incidents being in some way staged, /vr/ would shrug it off!

[Anonymous No.2513246]

>>2512612
From the assemblergames thread the cart is basically a loader containing stuff to operate the cd drive.

[Anonymous No.2513252]

>>2513239
Considering they are trying to also profit from a new market (mobile) you have a point. They would never consider branching out if their current core area is giving them a stedy investment.

[Anonymous No.2513253]

>>2512125
Am I the only one who's more blown away by the fact that someone's "my dad works at Nintendo" story turned out to be real for once?

[Anonymous No.2513272]

>>2513253
because it is fake

[Anonymous No.2513280]

>>2513218
tfw jet fuel can't melt steel beams
this is pure shitposting

[Anonymous No.2513285]

>>2513193
The jews really did 911 you pleb.

[Anonymous No.2513297]

>>2512369
you must be fuckin 14 years old, NOBODY used cd's in the early 90's for transferring work data, it was either floppy or via ethernet workstations, CD-R's were fucking expensive back then, and write speeds EXTREMELY slow, CD's became a thing until 96-97

[Anonymous No.2513304]

Holy fuck I hate assemblergames forum. Bunch of fucking scam artists, neofags and redditors. Their users are fucking retards. Its fucking disgusting that they have any "authority" on beta stuff. They are confirming its "fake" based on some french twitter post fucking KEK.

[Anonymous No.2513314]

>>2513253
Apparently no one seems to have reading comprehension. It's not his dad, but his dad's co-worker at an unrelated company who used to work at Nintendo.

[Anonymous No.2513330]

>>2513304
He posted a video of him manhandling it. I hope he doesnt listen to some fucking retard on youtube or assemblergames and destroy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCV6RusogAk

[Anonymous No.2513343]

>>2513330
>manhandling it
he held it. it's a console.

[Anonymous No.2513346]

>>2513330
>manhandling
in what way? it's not a newborn baby, it's a console.
get a grip

[Anonymous No.2513347]

>>2513330
tbh I was expecting it to end the same way the pikachu n64 did

[Anonymous No.2513348]

>>2512321
>Without Nintendo driving semiconductor fabs like NEC to acquire licenses from MIPS and Silicon Graphics and mass produce those chips, 3D graphics hardware was fucking expensive for use in consumer products.
>Completely disregarding 3DFX and PC hardware

[Anonymous No.2513354]

>>2513304
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Way worse than here or reddit, which is amazing. Everyone is just repeating conjecture and misinformation.

[Anonymous No.2513356]

>>2513343
>>2513346
the way he flipped it around so care free like it was a fucking toy. I thought he was gonna fucking drop it.

[Anonymous No.2513359]

>>2513304
>Bunch of fucking scam artists, neofags and redditors.
My experience is that they're a bunch of manchildren with expensive toys and they somehow feel superior to other people because they spent thousands of dollars on some piece of shit and refuse to share it or post videos of it.

Unfortunately, most of the time it's still the place really useful tools get posted, so it's a necessary evil.

[Anonymous No.2513363]

IS THIS REAL LIFE

FIRST A FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE

NOW THE FUCKING SNES CD IS FOUND

I'M DREAMING

I'M DREAMING

[Anonymous No.2513364]

>>2513193
>>2513191

[Anonymous No.2513370]

>>2513363
>>2513363
>Caring about FFVII like a faggot
>Caring about overrated nostalgia meme console
Holy shit you really are a giant faggot. Biggest faggot on /vr/ right now

[Anonymous No.2513371]

>>2513285
>>2513364
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.2513372]

>>2513363

And both things are kinda meaningless. FF VII remake is just gonna be another Nomura bishounen flick, and this SNES CD prototype might be a fake, and even if it's not, nothing interesting will really come out of it other than collectors jerking off to it and paying thousands of dollars trying to get one.
We've had documentation of the SNES CD for a while now so it's not really anything new or world changing.

[Anonymous No.2513376]

>>2513356
The dude is not a gamer and doesn't really have a clue about the history of this thing. At least he's posting and some knowledgeable people are contacting him. I just hope that trolls and Internet bullshit doesn't scare him away, which is a real possibility.

[Anonymous No.2513380]

Polygon shit sorry. Everyone is going crazy over this. I dont feel bad for the guy. He is going to make a fortune off of this when he sells it. I just hope he sells it to someone professional who will dump and document everything properly.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/7/3/8889237/Nintendo-Play-Station

[Anonymous No.2513383]

One thing that bothered me in the video is how he pulled out the cartridge so smoothly and quickly with one hand. If I tried that on my SNES it'd lift the whole thing off the ground, or at the very least move the console somewhat. I thought it'd make sense if the console itself was empty, but seconds later he does show the blurry cartridge port.

I suppose it would be plausible if the cartridge was just sitting in the slot and not actually plugged in, but...

Do any legit cartridge based consoles behave like that?

[Anonymous No.2513384]

>>2513370
>>2513372

I really feel sorry for people who have completely lost the ability to feel joy in life.

[Anonymous No.2513385]

The thread about the PlayStation/SNES prototype turns into /v/ tier shit including memetext, reactions images, dank memes, and meme[insert thing I don't like].

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, children.

[Anonymous No.2513386]

>>2513384

Just because I don't care for a FF VII remake and a (possibly fake) console prototype that will in no way change my life whatsoever?

You have a weird concept of "feel joy in life"

[Anonymous No.2513387]

>>2513359
I guess all communities have shit users. Some great things have come from the site like the Sonic Xtreme proto.

[Anonymous No.2513395]

I really wonder why people think this is fake beyond gut feelings or whatever. He clearly shows the item, so it isn't a shoop. It is yellowed, it has appropriate connectors, the cartridge with it has a somewhat aged looking label with appropriate Japanese text, the controller seems to have security screws to prevent tampering unlike a retail controller (correct me if I am incorrectly seeing this, please), and so on and so forth. Hopefully he can get it working and prove that it is legitimate. Unless I am missing something, claiming this to be fake at this point would mean that you pretty much have to assume that all prototype stuff out there is fake.

Reactions like these are probably a big reason why those DIRTY DAMN DATA HOARDERS don't dump their prototypes or share their stuff.

[Anonymous No.2513396]

>>2513385
/vr/ was always kidding themselves where they thought they weren't /v/ with old games.

[Anonymous No.2513397]

>>2513383
>grip cartridge with 2 fingers
>push down on console with 2 fingers
have you seriously never taken a game out with one hand

[Anonymous No.2513398]

>>2513347
lol I remember that.

[Anonymous No.2513405]

>>2513384
I don't know man, I got a lot of joy out of laughing at you

>>2513385
Yes thank you for the recap faggot, any other mind boggling discoveries you want to share with us today?

[Anonymous No.2513406]

>>2513396
In the beginning we had a bunch of threads telling people who use terms like "lel" and meme to fuck off.

But this place is suffering the same fate as /v/. Reddit invasion. Be surprised how many people under 25 visit here and how many 3rd worlders.

[Anonymous No.2513412]

>>2513397
He didn't do that in the video. His fingers don't touch the console at all when removing the cartridge.

Explain.

[Anonymous No.2513413]

>>2513380
>He is going to make a fortune off of this when he sells it.
Not a "fortune", really. Last one sold for 5k USD.

[Anonymous No.2513415]

>>2513395
Its just trolls trying to make drama. They dont look at facts. They purely speculate because they are mindless retards.

[Anonymous No.2513417]

>>2513387
/vr/ has no shit users

[Anonymous No.2513418]

>>2513406
>how many 3rd worlders.

As a 3rd worlder, I feel offended. We have a lot of knowledge about retro games.

[Anonymous No.2513419]

I want a rom dump of that cart so bad

[Anonymous No.2513421]

>>2513395
>DIRTY DAMN DATA HOARDERS
CWC pls

[Anonymous No.2513423]

>>2513418
You have knowledge about bootlegs. About it.

[Anonymous No.2513426]

>>2513417
what about all those avgn youtube threads lol.

[Anonymous No.2513427]

>>2513415
There are no facts, just a bunch of pictures, a low-res video and a shitty story.

[Anonymous No.2513430]

>>2513396
I take it you weren't here for the first ~6-12 months of this board's life. The tone of discussion was much higher.

[Anonymous No.2513431]

>>2513418
Yeah, that guy is being a huge faggot. 3rd world countries are probably where /vr/ is the most strongest due to old consoles enduring longer than in most 1st world nations

[Anonymous No.2513436]

>>2513423

Those bootlegs still let me play dozens or hundreds of japanese-only games that 1st world countries in the west missed back then.
Also, even if I live in a 3rd world country, my family wasn't poor, so I also had access to original systems and games, on top of bootlegs.

[Anonymous No.2513440]

>>2513436
>>2513431
Even amongst retro game communities, giving a shit about bootlegs is rare. Some exceptions though.
I've personally never known of or heard of any American that has a sizable bootleg collection of games and consoles. Maybe some unlicensed nes stuff.

[Anonymous No.2513447]

>>2513106
It has a lot of little details that to me say it is legit. Whoever made it did their homework if it is fake.

Things like knowing it would need to have controls for the CD player portion on the system because it only supported XA audio lead credence to it being real to me.

[Anonymous No.2513451]

>>2513440

It's not about collecting (although yeah, there are collectors of bootleg stuff). it's about sheer knowledge. Thanks to piracy, I played a shit ton of games when I was a kid. You know, back when NES emulators didn't exist, and so on.

[Anonymous No.2513452]

Did Nintendo paid sony to make the console or Sony paid Nintendo to make the console, or both collaborated to make it, or how exactly did this partnership worked?

[Anonymous No.2513453]

I swear some of you people have never even touched or looked at a SNES.

You can't just pull out a SNES cartridge because they are locked at the notch in the middle of the cartridge. You have to hit the eject button that releases the lock and pushes the cartridge out of the socket. There should be no resistance at all when removing the cartridge at that point.

[Anonymous No.2513457]

>>2513427

Hopefully he will show it running, but honestly that probably won't even be enough for some people. A lot of this stuff is hard to prove. Prototypes of games often come on shitty, hand-labelled carts (or sometimes as just a bare PCB), with little to no provable history. You just have to take the fact that they come on a development PCB and/or have differences from the retail (or match old magazine articles covering the game before release) as proof. In this case, if it functions and looks legit, that is pretty much all we have. At present, it seems a safer bet to assume that it is real than that we are dealing with a master fabricator.

[Anonymous No.2513461]

>>2513418
that console looks more like something second world aka post-USSR and friends would get

[Anonymous No.2513462]

>>2513453
Uh.. The lock thing is only set when the power slider is on. The eject button only pushes the cartridge out from underneath.

[Anonymous No.2513470]

>>2513461

It's a Family Game, regular famiclone that was very common around here. I'm from latin america by the way.

[Anonymous No.2513471]

>>2513430
Somewhat. Still had petty fighting and assholes. I guess it was better then now tho.

[Anonymous No.2513472]

>>2513451
The history is pretty much limited to your country though.
Except for shit like Tengen making some unlicensed NES games and racermate there isn't much more. We didn't get any bootleg consoles during the current generation.

Many years later there were those like 200 in 1 consoles. But nobody gives a fuck about them and they're not really retro.

[Anonymous No.2513474]

>>2513406
>Reddit invasion
If you really believe this is the case, you're a fool. You truly believe 4ch users are great and le redditors are the faggots? Any and every online community goes to shit when the userbase grows; once it gets to a certain size, real discourse and dialogue become nearly impossible to maintain. Look at all the crossboard memes: lel, kek, cuck, baneposting, 911, sjw, gamergate -- none of that belongs on /vr/, none of it. The anonymous hivemind is way too pervasive, some people believe themselves to be a part of a community by following the example of others.

[Anonymous No.2513480]

>>2513472

Yeah that's right, but still you're talking about collecting, and in the present day.
I'm talking about experience in the past.

I remember the kids who owned an original NES were limited to what they could get.
Me, on the other hand, was playing all sort of games that came in 30 in 1 cartidges (those would usually include a bunch of early Famicom games that never left Japan, like Battle City, or TwinBee), besides newer games like SMB3 or Ninja Gaiden.

it was just better to own a Famiclone back then, more (and cheaper) games. In fact, there used to be an adapter so you could play bootleg Family Game carts on a NES, many kids had that.

[Anonymous No.2513481]

>>2513474
Don't take it as an absolute. The site went to shit starting with the Scientology raids. Soon as "anonymous" started protesting on the streets.

The whole reddit/new age social media shit with wanting to make the internet a personal hugbox is just the newest worst thing to happen.

[Anonymous No.2513484]

>>2513480
Almost all of those multicart games are trash. SO trash that it's pretty much the only appeal in buying one. For a laugh.

[Anonymous No.2513489]

>>2513484

Nigga, you calling Battle City and TwinBee trash?

Seriously though, you're wrong. Famiclones in the 80s was a blessing. Best of both worlds, you got western games and japanese games, in the same console, and for real cheap (compared to what they'd cose on an original NES, when in the end it was the same experience)

[Anonymous No.2513493]

>>2513489
No man. Just no. I've seen how trash those multicarts and clone system can be and haven't seen much to contrary.

[Anonymous No.2513495]

>>2513484
You probably wouldn't think it was trash if you grew up in some poor violent shithole

[Anonymous No.2513502]

>>2513493
But what do you mean "trash"? I can't speak for the modern multicarts, but the ones I had back then included a lot of great games. Stuff like Contra, Adventure Island, SMB, and a bunch of early Famicom games that were never released on the NES, like the aforementioned TwinBee, Battle City, and many others.

So I dunno. I had a great childhood, and mind you I also owned original consoles, like Genesis and SNES, but my old Family Game is still the console I have best memories with. Just so many games, I probably played a new one everyday.

[Anonymous No.2513505]

Reading the thread over at assemblergames...

Everyone there but a couple of posters are fucking idiots.

Not because they think it is fake, but because of how they would treat it if it is real.

Try a PS1 power supply? Put the disc into a DVD drive and see what it has on it?

Good fucking god you morons.

This is a museum piece. This may be one of a kind. You don't go sticking random power supplies into the thing and trying to turn it on 2 days after you find it. You don't put the (probably unique) disc into a random DVD-R/W drive that may destroy the damn thing.

This should be handled with white gloves by someone who knows what they're doing. It should only be powered on after careful research and documentation. And even then it should be done with a professional grade power supply to prevent a power surge or some other unexpected event from possibly damaging the console.

I'd donate money to Assembler getting it if he set up a crowd fund for it.

[Anonymous No.2513509]

>>2513505
>You don't put the (probably unique) disc into a random DVD-R/W drive that may destroy the damn thing
Do you have any idea what you're saying?

[Anonymous No.2513514]

>>2513509
Charlie has been sniffing glue again.

[Anonymous No.2513515]

>>2513371
See: >>2513242

[Anonymous No.2513517]

>>2513502
They aren't the original game.
>>2513495
I'm not in 3rd world so I wouldn't know.

[Anonymous No.2513519]

>>2513412
... are you serious? he pushes down on the console behind the cart. you conspiracy theorists are so fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.2513520]

>>2513509
Yes, I know exactly what I'm saying. Optical drives are known to occasionally damage discs. I wouldn't put a priceless possibly one of a kind CD into a drive I don't trust even with a 1 in 10,000 chance of it being damaged.

[Anonymous No.2513521]

>>2513509
I assume he meant a damaged CD drive or something that could scratch it? Otherwise isn't the worst that could happen would be the drive not being able to read the disc?

[Anonymous No.2513525]

>>2513521
Theoretically the disc could have become brittle with time and would shatter when it was being spun up. Very unlikely, but still possible.

[Anonymous No.2513526]

>>2513517
Me either just saying you sound like a spoiled and sheltered little kid. Pretty sure little kids who grow up in a violent hellhole where they are seeing people getting murdered and raped aren't going to give a fuck if it's "the original game" or not. You are seriously retarded. Nintendo and Sega didn't even sell games in half of those countries to begin with.

[Anonymous No.2513530]

>>2513519
Some of his fingers are obscured, but you can clearly see there is zero force being exerted.

shill

[Anonymous No.2513531]

>>2513520
Between that and the "MUH DON'T TURN IT ON IT'S A MUSEUM PIECE", your entire post is just unwarranted hysteria. Not to mention, a PS1 power supply would most definitely be right for that system. But for real, a museum piece? If it's a museum piece, why not turn it on now anyways? If it doesn't work it can go in the museum just the same. Do you think this is such a monumental piece of technology that we should shield our eyes and call it Muhammed too?
>>2513521
Pretty much.
>>2513525
I'd think a disk would start to rot before that happened.

[Anonymous No.2513534]

>>2513505
>Everyone there but a couple of posters are fucking idiots.
Yep, and one of the mods is giving the guy warnings about double posting. That guy is never posting there again.

[Anonymous No.2513535]

>>2513526
>you sound like a spoiled and sheltered little kid.
Because I don't give a fuck about a 3rd world shithole? Sorry for not being sensitive enough.

[Anonymous No.2513536]

>>2513525
>brittle with time and would shatter when it was being spun up
This has never happened, don't make shit up.

[Anonymous No.2513539]

>>2513531

We have no way of knowing what power supply would right for it. We have the suspicion of knowing it would be right for it, but nothing conclusive yet. The owner would be retarded to just "try it out" without careful research first.

> If it's a museum piece, why not turn it on now anyways? If it doesn't work it can go in the museum just the same

You are the stupidest person I have met on this site in a long time.

>working SNES CD prototype
>blown up SNES CD prototype because the person who discovered it was a dumb fuck and tried to power it on with a power supply with the wrong polarity

Which one do you think a museum would prefer?

[Anonymous No.2513542]

>>2513530
I assume you're being sarcastic, but if you watch, you it looks like you can see that the cartridge is being pulled out due to the slight jerk when it comes out of the slot as it breaks free from the connector pins.

But seriously, what WOULD make the doubters think this is legit? I know on the internet no one wants to look like a fool or assume everyone will lie about everything for little to no reason, but there comes a point where it starts to sound like legit paranoia.

[Anonymous No.2513546]

>>2513534
Yes, that was horrible. One of the worst examples I have seen in a long time of how moderators and administrators don't know anything about the subjects of the boards they moderate and end up being rules nazis at the expensive of original content and discussion.

You've got the holy grail here, and you're chiding the guy for protocol?

It's like another user there told the mod. It's like an alien spaceship landed in your living room and you're telling them not to wear shoes on the carpet.

[Anonymous No.2513548]

>>2513539
You can plain as day see the power plug configuration on the back of the thing. It matches a PSOne's power supply, same colour plug even. But don't take my word for it, find a picture of a psone psu online and compare. It's exactly the same, ~7.5v with center positive.
>>2513539
>Working SNES CD prototype
Yeah, because we 100% know it works if it hasn't been tested. Right?

[Anonymous No.2513549]

>>2513535
No because you are having a spergout over what little kids in Chechnya decide to play .roms on you fucking autist.

[Anonymous No.2513550]

>>2513536
Discs occasionally shatter inside CD drives. The reason is usually referenced as the glue holding the two halves of the CD together becoming dry and brittle over time.

So it has happened, and it could happen.

[Anonymous No.2513552]

>>2513549
I didn't know saying clone consoles and pirate carts are shit is considered sperging now.

[Anonymous No.2513553]

>>2513542
Seeing it running something wouldn't mean shit to me since that could also be easily faked.

A decent photograph of the internals would be enough to convince me. All the individual parts being identifiable would prove to me whether it's fake or not.

[Anonymous No.2513554]

>>2513493
early clones from late 80' and early 90' are great
I'd say they are better than original. They tend to look like original famicom but with AV and controller ports. and they can be "switchmoded" to 60/50 hz without replacing the PPU.
they were build on quality UMC clone chips (that company also made some 386 and 486 processors as well as chipsets).

as for multicarts
Why would you even buy something like 999999in1 and hoping to be legit or have nearly this many games.

some good multicarts are
168in1
rockman 10in1
and newly released 400in1

Newer clones are build around NOAC (nes-on-a-chip) and that is the worst piece of shit that you could buy. It will break out of shame by just looking at it.

[Anonymous No.2513557]

>>2513542
Fuck, sorry for that word soup in the first sentence. Basically, it looks like the cartridge slightly jerks free when he begins to remove it.

[Anonymous No.2513558]

>>2513280
YOU GULLIBLE IDIOT!!

Or do you not care about anything but being smug about how "proper" you are?

Where did you hear that they actually found molten steel beams?

Some shitty CNN reporters probably pulled the molten steel discovery straight out of their ass because they thought it would sound good.

>inb4 typical gamer lack of reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.2513560]

>>2513550
...In which case, the case for ripping the disc with IMGBurn first makes perfect sense.

Look at the SegaCD. No copy protection there, and that was a commercially released addon. I highly doubt this device has copy protection. It just makes sense to rip the disc to a .iso first.

[Anonymous No.2513561]

>>2513548
This is a prototype, just because it says one thing does not mean that is how it will work. Don't trust any label you find on it. Open it up and look at the board and have someone who knows what they are looking at decide if that will be the right power.

>>2513548
You test it under controller and calculated conditions, not by plugging something in because it fits the hole.

[Anonymous No.2513564]

>>2513430
We're still here. Everyone was behaving because we didn't want to see this board get the axe in its infancy. Now that it has become somewhat established, people wander here from /v/ and /b/ and post like they would there, just trolling for the sake of trolling.

Hide threads you don't care about, ignore inflammatory posts, and /vr/ is still an enjoyable board.

[Anonymous No.2513565]

>>2513560
The case for ripping it with IMGburn is good, the case for putting it into a random DVD-R/W drive is not.

Would you put this disc in a laptop or slot-loading disc drive? I wouldn't, and the owner may not know the difference.

[Anonymous No.2513568]

>>2513191
>>2513193
Why, because your kind feels reproduction carts are equivalent to the Holodomor?

[Anonymous No.2513569]

>>2513553
So, proof of a unique, operable PCB, perhaps with Sony and/or Nintendo labels silkscreened onto it would be enough?

[Anonymous No.2513572]

>>2513561
A far as the PSU goes, there's a 99.9999% chance the power just goes through a 7805 step down regulator, so besides polarity, voltage wouldn't be an issue. Besides that, the same exact plug is used on the PSOne and its screen, including plug colour, and seemingly the rest of the I/O on the back has been reused as well, and the case was custom made for this, chances are VERY low that anything will go wrong. I'd bank on there being a higher chance of breaking the yellowing plastic by taking the console apart to "investigate" over potentially frying the thing.
>Because it fits the hole
lel what is reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.2513574]

>>2513572
>Because it fits the hole

This thread just got sexy.

[Anonymous No.2513575]

>>2513546
Mods are usually fucking idiots. Just look /vr/ for an example.

[Anonymous No.2513581]

>>2513569
Yeah, if the dude posted a teardown with the chip labels readable, that would be convincing. THEN we can check exactly what that thing has inside.

>>2513572
99.9999% is not 100%. It could be something else. The guy would still need to open the machine up and inspect the traces to see where the power goes. This is not even mentioning any potential hardware problems it might have inside, for all we know the entire motherboard inside has corroded away due to leaking caps.

I'll be laughing so damn hard when the dude plugs it in and all he gets is a puff of smoke.

[Anonymous No.2513585]

>>2513572
If you don't take it apart before plugging it in you're just asking for trouble.

[Anonymous No.2513586]

>>2513530
>it's obscured but you can clearly see I'm right
you're proposing that rather than just using a SNES connector, he went out and got a similar looking connector, but you were able to catch him because it's too loose. it's entirely possible it's fake, but damn you're retarded

[Anonymous No.2513587]

>>2513517
>They aren't the original game.

And? you keep talking like a collector, and I'm playing from an experience/knowledge perspective.
A person who grew up with a Famiclone in a 3rd world country it's likely more knowledgeable about 8bit gaming than someone from a 1st world country, simply because thanks to piracy, we got more variety of games than you did.

[Anonymous No.2513589]

>>2513581
If you're so goddamn scared about it, tell him to plug in a 3.3v supply first, and when it inevitably doesn't work, then a 5V, then finally the 7.6 that'll actually work.

Name one time that a high profile company like Nintendo or Sony mislabeled the input voltage my more than .1V. I dare you.

[Anonymous No.2513591]

>be SNES CD dev
>new system board calls for 6 volts
>they haven't got around to changing the case and it still says 7.6 volts
>prolly should write over that with a sharpie
>eh, who cares I know what it needs nobody will ever be using this thing but me

[Anonymous No.2513594]

Why didn't it get discovered sooner?

[Anonymous No.2513595]

The CD should be in a caddy according to specs. How many of you even have a drive that uses them? Hell, I have a CDROM drive where the entire thing pulls forward and then opens up, but I don't have a caddy one and I've only seen one ever.

It is odd that he mentions having the CD, but doesn't mention a caddy and hasn't even attempted to rip it.

The discoloration only being on the front is odd. Also, if you look at the controller ports there is an area where the more original color is, but it extends further down on the bottom.

The 'oh it is at my dad's' is a classic hoax tactic too.

[Anonymous No.2513601]

>>2513595
I don't really think it's a hoax because the guy in the video seems too ignorant and young to even know what he really has. Either someone really went to a lot of work and acting to fool some neckbeards on the internet or he actually has it

[Anonymous No.2513602]

>>2513594
A lot of developers and executives are normal people who either throw away old game stuff or forget about it and let it rot in the basement.

[Anonymous No.2513604]

>>2513589
It's a piece of prototype hardware. None of the labels should be taken for granted, they could be used for any damn thing that only the engineers working on it would need to know. Some prototype 3dfx cards had molex power connectors which depending on version were either required for function, or straight up fried the board.

[Anonymous No.2513607]

>>2513591
>Be SNES CD
>Have hardware betwen that of a PS1 and SNES
>SNES runs off 5v with a regulator that'll take anything from 7 to 15v without complaining
>PS1 runs off 7.5v
>Want to be turned on
>Some anon wants to take me apart and fondle me before sending me to a museum
>>2513595
My later production SNES has only gotten discolouration in areas that were exposed to direct sunlight, it's partially hidden behind some other shit and I wouldn't put it past the thing to just have been left partially sticking out near a window.
>>2513604
The entire case was custom manufactured for this, everything else was labeled properly and any background knowledge would lead you to believe it's fucking fine.

[Anonymous No.2513608]

>>2513595
Discoloration doesnt always happen in a uniform way. The controller was probably plugged in blocking direct sunlight or exposure.

[Anonymous No.2513610]

If this is a hoax I'm going to be sorely disappointed

[Anonymous No.2513620]

Sticky when?

[Anonymous No.2513621]

>>2513607
>The entire case was custom manufactured for this, everything else was labeled properly and any background knowledge would lead you to believe it's fucking fine.

And how do you know if there weren't any internal memos at Sony Imagesoft in 1991 to only use, I dunno, 5V power bricks due to the input being mislabelled due to hardware changes made after they molded the cases?

[Anonymous No.2513624]

>>2513610
i'm going to fucking end my life if this is a hoax, man

i've been waiting for this moment

[Anonymous No.2513626]

>>2513595
>The discoloration only being on the front is odd. Also, if you look at the controller ports there is an area where the more original color is, but it extends further down on the bottom.

The discoloration is really suggesting fake to me.

That's not how old SNES and PlayStations yellowed. They had different amounts of flame retardant in the plastic, and the yellowing occurred along distinct lines of the different pieces of plastic for this reason.

Compare a real yellowed SNES's controller ports.

[Anonymous No.2513627]

>>2513314
You get what he means, you autist.

[Anonymous No.2513629]

>>2513608
>The controller was probably plugged in blocking direct sunlight or exposure.

Controller being plugged in doesn't make a difference.

[Anonymous No.2513631]

>>2513621
Because no fucking hardware like this runs off 5v or 3.3v. Practically everything from that era ran off a 7.5v or 12v power brick.

[Anonymous No.2513634]

>>2513626
Also take note of this very early PlayStation unit, a DTL-H1000 debugger. These are among the oldest of the known PlayStation models that were put into large scale production.

[Anonymous No.2513635]

>>2513505
it's a good thing it wasn't me that found it, because I'll be damned if I didn't start sticking random ps1 and super famicom games in it to see what the devs had in mind. PS1 with SNES compatibility...I want to live in the alternate reality where this was realized.

[Anonymous No.2513641]

>>2513631
Which is converted to 5V inside of the console by a 7805. lol good job m8.

>>2513634
They're no older than a SCPH-1000.

[Anonymous No.2513642]

>>2513626
this kind of discoloration requires light, so if it was packed into a shelf with only part of the front exposed it's entirely possible

[Anonymous No.2513643]

>>2513631
Are you an electrical engineer? If you are then maybe I would take your advice and maaaybe start looking at getting a switching power supply and letting you try to power it on (after opening the case and having someone else double-check everything).

You fry whatever onboard EEPROM or other non-volatile memory this thing might have and you'll have fucked up big time and destroyed video gaming history.

[Anonymous No.2513646]

>>2513641
They are older than the SCPH-1000. They use an earlier revision GPU. Do your homework before posting.

[Anonymous No.2513649]

>>2513626
You dont know if its the exact same pastic used in the snes. Your full of shit.

[Anonymous No.2513652]

>>2513646
Same BIOS mate.

[Anonymous No.2513653]

>>2513649
I don't know that, but it raises my suspicions when I look at it.

In fact, going by the video a lot of the case is of a shiny material that wasn't used in much of any kind of electronic back then. It has a look more like a white Saturn's plastic than anything SNES or PlayStation.

[Anonymous No.2513654]

>>2513641
Your point being? If it's stepped down to 5v, it's stepped down.
Actually, speaking of which, I don't believe the PS1 was stepped down to just 5v, the SNES was for sure though. It had an internal PSU, and IIRC not even the PSOne had a clear 5v input on the motherboard.

[Anonymous No.2513656]

>>2513546
>end up being rules nazis at the expensive of original content and discussion

Hm... sounds familiar. Glad at least /vr/ is still clean of that nonsense.

[Anonymous No.2513658]

>>2513652
Same BIOS doesn't mean same age.

[Anonymous No.2513660]

>>2513642
>this kind of discoloration requires light
No, it requires exposure to oxygen. Excessive sunlight can hasten that, but people have found new, boxed SNES systems yellowed.

>>2513649
A lot of people are speculating based on SNES or later Playstation specs (even PSOne), which is totally the wrong thing to do.

[Anonymous No.2513662]

>>2513658
Considering it needs a BIOS to function... Well, I'll let you work it out.

>>2513660
Has the same expansion port as a SNES/SuFami.

[Anonymous No.2513676]

>>2513662
>Has the same expansion port as a SNES/SuFami.
And it has video outs matching the lauch Japanese PS. None of that means anything. This is a prototype system that is neither a SNES or a PS.

[Anonymous No.2513678]

>>2513654
The PS1 output several different voltages. I don't know each value from the top of my head but the most likely candidates are 3.3V, 5V, 9V and/or 12V. It's part of the reason why it had an internal PSU.

[Anonymous No.2513680]

>mfw suits from Nintendo show up at the guys house and confiscate it

>mfw Nintendo reports it was destroyed according to original orders issued

[Anonymous No.2513681]

>>2513660
It needs to have been exposed to enough light before oxygen becomes a factor. Given that this was a prototype system, I think it's fine.

[Anonymous No.2513687]

>>2513662
>Considering it needs a BIOS to function... Well, I'll let you work it out

There's nothing to work out. Having the same BIOS does not mean two things are identical in age.

[Anonymous No.2513695]

>>2512125
hey dude, i have an idea, why don't you open it?

[Anonymous No.2513696]

>>2513660
>A lot of people are speculating based on SNES or later Playstation specs (even PSOne), which is totally the wrong thing to do.

We actually do have the SNES-CD specification from 1993 February. It may match what is inside this machine. The specs do not mention Sony or how the machine might look, but it does mention using CD caddies (with protection hardware and SRAM inside).

If we could see the insides of the machine, we could potentially match up the hardware inside.

[Anonymous No.2513704]

>>2513696
That looks more like a final design for the retail version, which would be an expansion module for the SNES. It's possible that they just used regular discs for the dev version, as they'd be much easier to use, and since they weren't retail games, they wouldn't need to worry about durability. (My guess as to why there are caddies involved at all)

[Anonymous No.2513705]

>>2513232
One of the wisest things they've ever done was to never well hardware at a loss. That alone kept them from going under. Plus the undeniable success of Pokemon & their handhelds allowed them to weather the storms.

[Anonymous No.2513723]

>>2513705
I don't want to start and argument of whether or not these are real or fake, but just curious if anyone has contacted either Sony or Nintendo on the matter.

[Anonymous No.2513730]

>>2513474
>You truly believe 4ch users are great and le redditors are the faggots?
No, I believe one group is faggots and the other one are even bigger insufferable faggots and I'd rather not have the insufferable faggots here.

[Anonymous No.2513746]

>>2513575
> Just look /vr/ for an example
But /vr/ has the best mods, or alternatively /vr/ is just self moderating so the mod doesn't have to do anything at all.

Either way, their lack of a presence is a good thing

[Anonymous No.2513752]

>>2513746
Thats true I guess. I have seen some threads pruned that were on topic though.

[Anonymous No.2513754]

Why doesn't somebody just invite him here?

[Anonymous No.2513768]

>>2513754
Do we have some hookers and coke here on /vr/? We could bait him with that.

[Anonymous No.2513771]

>>2513746
/vr/s mods are shit, they banned 5 dreamcast threads in the last 24 hours for no reason.

the first 3 or so included reference to a magnet link, but the last 2 literally had nothing wrong with them. they were just pure dc conversation.

[Anonymous No.2513775]

>>2513626
The controller was left plugged in for years, blocking light to that part of the plastic, you stupid autist.

[Anonymous No.2513778]

>>2512321
3D possibly could have taken longer. The Saturn was originally going to be 2D only if it weren't for the PlayStation and N64.

[Anonymous No.2513780]

>>2513008
100% truth. just because he's a layman doesn't mean he's a douche. /vr/ please take a step back and reevaluate yourself.

[Anonymous No.2513786]

>>2513252
>>2513239
Wii U is making money. Nintendo has some of the highest software sales for this generation.
>>2513232
They aim for a 40% profit
>>2512768
>kids bullshit
No. CD tech isn't something that can be controlled easily. Why they made the 64DD.

[Anonymous No.2513792]

>>2513008
>>2513780
Considering the fact that this is huge news and has been posted on many sites I suspect there's a couple people coming over to /vr/.
Not saying vr/ is great, but there might be a small amount of traffic coming in here thanks to this discovery.

[Anonymous No.2513793]

>>2513418
>We have a lot of knowledge about retro games.
Apart from you call them new games

[Anonymous No.2513794]

>>2513746
>/vr/ is just self moderating

You are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.2513802]

>>2513786
>Nintendo has some of the highest software sales for this generation.
Give me a source on that.

>They aim for a 40% profit
See above.

>CD tech isn't something that can be controlled easily.
What?

[Anonymous No.2513803]

>>2513746
There is no point in moderating vr. vr doesn't have the aptitude for forum wit/drama and all that carry on, it's way too stuffy for there to be anything to mod.

[Anonymous No.2513807]

>>2513771
>killing 6th gen console shit threads
Sounds like good moderation to me

Besides, I've been noticing way too many fucking dreamcast threads lately. you don't need that many. 5 in the last day is testament to that.

[Anonymous No.2513814]

>>2513794
Good counterargument kid.

[Anonymous No.2513815]

>>2513794
I feel like it is, in a way.

Judging by being here everyday, my guess is we don't have any moderators. When a post/thread is reported enough a mod from another board would check it.

Out of context, not knowing /vr/, they just kill the post/thread.

either that or we have one mod who is severely autistic

[Anonymous No.2513819]

>>2513775
That's not how it works. That's literally not how it works. at all. I don't know how to put this more bluntly.

Sunlight does not cause yellowing.

[Anonymous No.2513820]

according to archive.moe, the ratio of deleted posts is lower on /v/ (0.8%) than /vr/ (2%) and the ratio of deleted threads is the same (16%)
if you only consider the time frame /vr/ has existed, then /v/'s totals are actually lower (0.6% and 8% respectively)
>>2513819
exposure to UV light is a prerequisite for oxidization of those plastics.

[Anonymous No.2513821]

>>2513807
Read the fucking sticky, Dreamcast is OK you asshat.

[Anonymous No.2513825]

>>2513746
>But /vr/ has the best mods

BAHAHAHA it has NEVER had good mods.

[Anonymous No.2513831]

>>2513814
This whole thread shows vr doesn't have any restraint. Don't delude yourself.

[Anonymous No.2513834]

>>2513821
says who? the same mod deleting dreamcast threads?

[Anonymous No.2513838]

>>2513834
The. Stickied. Post.

The same fucking one that says that the rest of the 6th gen consoles are banned.

>>>/vr/ click that, look riiiiiiiight at the top, you'll see the post.

[Anonymous No.2513839]

>>2513821
If you would read more carefully, you would notice that he said that 5 dreamcast threads is too many, which anyone with a brain would agree with.

[Anonymous No.2513841]

>>2513802
>Give me a source on that.
You can't google software sales?

CDs are easily massproduced. Unlike carts which need certain chips. That's why you have the amount of shit games on the popular CD consoles.

[Anonymous No.2513842]

Guys, am I the only one freaking out over this guy just booting the cart without dumping it first?
Chances are it has a boot limit like many protos of the era and will wipe itself after a couple more boots.

[Anonymous No.2513843]

>>2513786
> CD tech isn't something that can be controlled easily.
Are you some kind slave with stockholm syndrome, why caring about copyright problems of megacorporations so much?

[Anonymous No.2513849]

>>2513843
A company like Nintendo cares.

[Anonymous No.2513851]

>>2513839
Each one was made after the other got deleted for no reason. Not at the same time.

There was one with over 300 replies, when it hit the bump limit, another was made and taken down after 20 replies. So another was made, and that too got taken down after like 10. Eventually it got to the point where one would be made and taken down with no replies. All while there were NO OTHER DREAMCAST THREADS ON THE FUCKING BOARD.

[Anonymous No.2513852]

>>2513081
There are many types of collectors.
Personally, I do keep many rarities, but I always document and dump anything that's undumped.

[Anonymous No.2513856]

>>2513842
This or just plugging it in after finding something that fits. You can't just plug in something that has been sitting around unused for years and years. There's a chance nothing will happen, but there's also a chance something could blow inside.

[Anonymous No.2513860]

>>2513856
Caps that have been sitting for years could blow. But I think the chance with Jap caps is pretty low.

[Anonymous No.2513871]

>>2512125
>>Came with a fucking prototype CD and cartridge.
>>Nobody has a clue what's on them.
if this is really for reals why don't they just use the damn machine to find out?

[Anonymous No.2513875]

>>2513819
yes it does retard

[Anonymous No.2513876]

>>2512125
>>Dad used to work at a company where Olaf, his co-worker, used worked at Nintendo
>>Company went under. Dad was clearing stuff out there and found a box labeled "junk" that Olaf was supposed to throw out and that's where the console was found
that story sounds extremely fake... also why the hell do people always feel like the need to attach some sort of fake sentimental story to this stuff? It makes no sense and just makes it look even more like a scam.

[Anonymous No.2513882]

>>2513871
>be me
>unable to read basic english

[Anonymous No.2513887]

>>2512125
why is the browning only on the front panel, and why does it literally look spray painted on?

[Anonymous No.2513891]

>>2513871
As many anons are pointing out, the system is very old and we have no idea if it even works still. To just go on plugging it in willy-nilly without finding out whether or not it's even stable to go on and plugging it in may or may not have consequences. At this point and time, the system should be examined carefully and once everything seems in order, then we may test it out.

[Anonymous No.2513893]

>>2513841
All I see is Sony taking the lead on that one in terms of console software.

>CDs are easily massproduced.
Combine that with a much lower production cost and you had something that attracted devs and publishers alike.

>That's why you have the amount of shit games on the popular CD consoles.
>implying there weren't any large amounts of shit games on popular cartridge based consoles as well

>>2513849
>A company like Nintendo cares.
...about your money.

[Anonymous No.2513901]

>>2513891
I would assume, age or not, they system would certainly be on working order simply because it had barely been used, stop wasting your life sticking up for some stupid shit online, it's like your life hangs on this or something, for christ sake. Also, why the hell couldn't the person selling it plugged it in to see if it worked?

[Anonymous No.2513905]

Have we heard from him at all ever since the video? I pray that some faggot from assemblergames didn't just offer him thousands so he can sit on it and it will never be heard from again.

[Anonymous No.2513906]

>>2513891
>To just go on plugging it in willy-nilly without finding out whether or not it's even stable to go on and plugging it in may or may not have consequences

this is one of the most retarded excuses I have ever seen in my life, it's not like the system will explode if it's buggy or something, dear god.

[Anonymous No.2513907]

>>2513876
really bro???

this is a kid, who is posting the vid. the kid is maybe not older than 20yrs old. he clearly does have the slightest clue, except for being a sony super disc nintendo whatever thingy.

[Anonymous No.2513912]

>>2513887
The front panel is made out of a different piece of plastic. The plastic used to make SNES and apparently PS shells has varying amounts of flame retardants, which are what react with oxygen to cause yellowing. The amount and type of flame retardants affects the extent and rate of yellowing.

In addition, the reaction is accelerated by UV exposure and heat, though neither are a necessity for yellowing to occur.

The system looks like it might have been stored in a non-climate controlled space with inconsistent ventilation, with a controller left plugged into the first port. That this is an old prototype left ignored and neglected by people who didn't care is a more plausible story than a carefully constructed and artificially weathered fake.

[Anonymous No.2513914]

>>2513907
wow, that makes me think that this is a scam even more now.
also
>bro
fuck off back to /v/

[Anonymous No.2513915]

>>2513893
>implying there weren't any large amounts of shit games on popular cartridge based consoles as well
Back to /v/ kiddo.

[Anonymous No.2513916]

>>2513905
>I pray that some faggot from assemblergames didn't just offer him thousands so he can sit on it and it will never be heard from again.
Come on, it's fucking assembler. You fucking know that shit happened because they're fucking manchildren with too much money and egotism

[Anonymous No.2513919]

>>2513912
still looks spray painted on though
but I guess your life hangs in the balance simply on if a prototype playstation is real or not, so I will stop responding to keep you from having a heart attack.

[Anonymous No.2513923]

>>2513919
Just repeating what I've read about yellowing from the Retr0Brite folks, and my opinion regarding the post. Why is this thread so goddamned hostile?

[Anonymous No.2513924]

>>2513915
Stop being a hipster.

[Anonymous No.2513925]

>>2513915
>tells the simple truth
>"g-g-go back to /v/!"
Really?

[Anonymous No.2513926]

>>2513923
/vr/'s true colors are being shown in this thread

[Anonymous No.2513929]

This is a rom dumper. You put a cart in and it burns it to CD.

[Anonymous No.2513930]

>>2513926
Not just /vr/, but /v/ and probably other people too.
This board will never go back to its prime.

[Anonymous No.2513931]

>>2513926
>a board derived from /v/ sometimes acts like /v/
holy shit stop the presses somebody is being an asshole to me on the internet call it in /vr/ is dead forever

[Anonymous No.2513934]

reddit is coming to 4chan, were taking refugees..

reddit is coming to 4chan, were taking refugees..

lets discuss this somewhere that isnt going to 404 in a few min..

vola fOYgl7

lets discuss this somewhere that isnt going to 404 in a few min.

[Anonymous No.2513935]

>>2513916
Will not wonder, if the owner was fooled, and agreed to sell that piece lot cheaper then it really costs.

[Anonymous No.2513936]

>>2513931
>Le we are anonymous!
>No repercussion for me!
>Let me act like a asshole just for the sake of being mean!
>On a board for old video games
Just stop

[Anonymous No.2513937]

>>2513925
Its the default tactic of shitposters on /vr/

[Anonymous No.2513939]

>>2513923
>back tracking and implying that your post was not hostile what it obviously was to make yourself look like the "nice guy" of the thread
oh screw off.

[Anonymous No.2513942]

>>2513936
>No repercussion for me!
>Repercussions
>On an anonymous imageboard
Holy shit get a hold of yourself you retarded faggot and stop being so serious. Funny how you should liken that to reddit when it's reddit who can't stand abrasive comments that have been here since forever. What, you wish you could shame and browbeat me into not offending your faggot sensibilities? Get over yourself loser.

[Anonymous No.2513945]

>>2513931
>hu hu, we can act like /v/ cuz we have a v in the boards name
you are among the worst types of posters, fuck off

[Anonymous No.2513948]

>>2513942
wtf are you even talking about?
reddit was never even mentioned in his post...

[Anonymous No.2513950]

>>2513948
>Le we are anonymous
>Le

[Anonymous No.2513956]

>>2513945
>hu hu, we're nothing like /v/ at all we're a separate entity that existed out of nowhere independently from /v/
you are among the worst types of posters, fuck off

[Anonymous No.2513954]

>>2513950
god, fuck off back to /r9k/ you retarded autist

[Anonymous No.2513957]

>>2513942
>Can't into reading comprehension
>all this swearing
I'm used to seeing the constant amounts of crude and insensitive comments here. I'm not phased, but why do you have to bring in "Le 4chan crude culture" into this?
We're discussing old pieces of plastic.
If the first thing you do to respond to me is call me a faggot and go back to reddit, you need to leave this site for a while, it's getting to you, better yet go to /b/, /r9k/ or /s4s/, they'd love you there.

[Anonymous No.2513959]

>>2513954
Can't use the /v/ or reddit boogeyman so you resort to anything else huh? Pathetic. This all could have been avoided by simply ignoring abrasive comments instead of acting like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.2513963]

>>2513959
this isn't /b/ or /r9k/, go back there

[Anonymous No.2513968]

>>2513963
>he continues to do it

[Anonymous No.2513975]

>>2513968
this is not a place where cyberbullying people you don't know on the internet gives you points, screw off

[Anonymous No.2513979]

>>2512684
I suspect this is actually an earlier version.

Playstation logo is earlier, eject/reset on the buttons which I suspect would be moved because of ware and fading, volume knob replaced with more durable dial on OP's picture, L+R 3.5 inputs, who needs those ever? Big flap on top you presumably have to lift back instead of just just little spring protection flap of SNES style.

I would make a bet that this is the earlier model and OP's is actually the final prototype model.

[Anonymous No.2513984]

>>2512137
>that SONY logo molded into the controller plug
If this is a hoax, tell me where I can get one of those.

[Anonymous No.2513987]

>>2513984
could easily had been made with a good quality 3D printer.

[Anonymous No.2513990]

>>2512378
What? Serial ports -- null modem cables. Or maybe floppies. But certainly not CD-Rs, Flash, or even ethernet on a devkit. Jeez.

[Anonymous No.2514000]

>>2512321
Yeah. Because 3d hardware was only in consoles and not in PCs, right?

[Anonymous No.2514001]

>>2513990
you are very stupid... this was 1994, not 1984, CD-R was very much in use in those sort of envirorments, though flash sticks and usb flash drives in the like were not in use, flash memory did exist in other forms, wtf do you think the save feature in NES and SNES era games are, or even the memory cards used in the playstation it's self, and it was very feasable to put an ethernet connection on a devkit...

[Anonymous No.2514009]

>>2513987
>has never seen a 3d printer in real life
>has never made anything with his own two hands
fuck off with this trolling
Molded plastic is the only way to get this kind of look.
Its not even that hard to do, so suggesting that an individual part is molded doesn't prove or disprove its authenticity.
I've made parts of molded plastic, its fully possible in "garage" level manufacturing

[Anonymous No.2514012]

>>2513348
The N64 came out in 1996, as did Quake 1, which was unaccelerated. The PC accelerator boom came next.

[Anonymous No.2514018]

>he finally gets the correct PSU
>tuns it on
>black screen because there is no actual disc in the cd drive
>sells it to a collector and we'll never even see internal hardware pictures
It would be fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.2514019]

>>2514009
why are you so ridiculously angry? I mean I can see being anoyed, but this is ridiculous, I just said something stupid without thinking on the internet. Did you father die in a tragic 3D printer accident while trying to perfect a molded plastic look on it or something?

[Anonymous No.2514028]

>>2514019
You think this is anger?
I'm just being dismissive. Brushing you off.
/v/ has much greater anger than this, you should be used to it.

[Anonymous No.2514029]

>an amazing X discovery is made

>the internet is overjoyed

>4chan shits its collective pants and spergs out against X like petulant children

[Anonymous No.2514032]

>>2514028
that's nice and all, but you aren't on /v/

[Anonymous No.2514043]

>>2513595
>The CD should be in a caddy according to specs
This will be interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LKfWL7BbBNg#t=41

[Anonymous No.2514047]

Are people on Reddit and AssemblerGames retarded?
"Just plug it in to a playstation power adaptor and see if it works!, don't open it up, don't give it to experts, plug it in and see if it goes! wooo! oh also try the CD in a computer"

What in fuck are these people thinking? This thing needs to be handled by experts, I would first take it to a museum and see if they could look over and document the thing.

[Anonymous No.2514048]

>>2514029
It's good to be home, innit?

[Anonymous No.2514051]

>>2514032
dont try to kid yourself

[Anonymous No.2514052]

>>2512321
>I'd also like to see what is on the demo disc. I believe the demo shown in this webm was actually completed in 1994, but surely it isn't this.

That demo used 100% Playstation hardware.

This SNES CD is most likely a SNES + SFX chip + lots of memory + extra adpcm audio.

[Anonymous No.2514059]

>>2514047
What I dont understand is how they think shipping him multiple power supplies nobody knows will work is a better alternative to sending him a security bit screwdriver? Knowone is that retarded that they cant use a fucking screwdriver.

[Anonymous No.2514062]

>>2514047
>"Just plug it in to a playstation power adaptor and see if it works!, don't open it up, don't give it to experts, plug it in and see if it goes! wooo! oh also try the CD in a computer"

wow... this is 13yo male logic at it's worst... dear god...

[Anonymous No.2514069]

>>2514051
why are you still going on with this shitty troll? I would have thought you would have gotten bored and moved on by now, you must be pretty devoted.

[Anonymous No.2514071]

>>2514001
Not him but serial/parallel were much more useful back then because they usually allow direct debug access to the hardware, unlike e.g. an ethernet card which requires software to work

[Anonymous No.2514073]

>>2514001
>CD-R was very much in use in those sort of envirorments,

CDRs took over an hour to burn in 1994, burners cost $3000 plus the necessary SCSI hardware, CDRs themselves were $50 a piece, and I don't even know what kind of software you used to burn them - you couldn't just download the latest trial version of Nero Burning ROM.

They only used CDRs for stuff like E3 (or rather, ECTS) demo kiosks, magazine previews, internal showcasing, and so on. For places where you needed to show how the game operates from the disc itself.
Developers themselves used CD Emulators, which worked on the same principle as HD Loaders do today, the console itself saw a normal CD, but in reality it was connected to a PC that streamed the data from its own hard disk. This was done because it was faster and because CDs were expensive.

>wtf do you think the save feature in NES and SNES era games are

They used battery backed static RAM. Flash started getting used in consoles in 1994/5 with the Playstation and Saturn memory carts.

>and it was very feasable to put an ethernet connection on a devkit...

In 1994, it definitely was not. You'd need a ton of hardware and software to get that communicating.

They used parallel ports or even SCSI for communication, most of the time. And debugging was done on ICEs, cpu in-circuit emulators, which were big-ass debugger boxes connected into wherever the consoles main cpu was meant to go.

[Anonymous No.2514074]

>>2514001
Nope. I was a programmer at that time. There were CD-Rs and similar (WORM and magneto-optical were more common) but that certainly wasn't used for transfer to console devkits. Of course flash memory existed, but not in some way that you could exchange data with it. Two words: serial port.

[Anonymous No.2514076]

Looks like AG is looking up his home address and rob his ass. RIP

[Anonymous No.2514079]

>>2514073
Don't forget that this thing, if real, is from oct 1992.
CD-R burners cost $12.000 at that time:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R

[Anonymous No.2514080]

>>2514001
FYI, the "save feature" in NES games is typically SRAM, which is why there's a battery in the cart. Flash memory only got cheap and fast enough to use for that stuff later.

[Anonymous No.2514081]

>>2514071
>sticking up for some one that made out like CD-Rs and flash storage were beyond the realms of possibility when the playstation was in development.

[Anonymous No.2514082]

>>2514073
CD emulators also emulated the slowness and lag of a CD. That way you could know how much a badly organized CD filesystem was slowing down your game. But yeah, you copied data to them at HD speeds, instead of waiting an hour for a 1X CD-R burn that you couldn't even re-use.

[Anonymous No.2514083]

>>2514081
At least read what he posted:
>>2514073

[Anonymous No.2514084]

>>2514073
that's nice and all, but companies sure as hell did use CD burners in making copies to test.

[Anonymous No.2514085]

>>2514081
>being this bent out of shape because someone called you on your anachronism

[Anonymous No.2514086]

>>2514073
>They only used CDRs for stuff like E3 (or rather, ECTS) demo kiosks, magazine previews, internal showcasing, and so on. For places where you needed to show how the game operates from the disc itself.
this is not true

[Anonymous No.2514087]

>>2514079
As I recall, Sega was advertising CD burners for $3000 and a three pack of CDRs for something like $60, in 1995, but I'm saying this from memory, I'd need to look it up.

[Anonymous No.2514089]

>>2514087
>in 1995
3 years after the thing OP posted was made.

[Anonymous No.2514090]

>>2514076
>Looks like AG is looking up his home address and rob his ass. RIP


hahahahah

that place is fucking scam city.

[Anonymous No.2514094]

CD burners were expensive as fuck until the late 90s+early 00s, I think the first CD burner I ever owned I got in maybe 01 or 02, before then it was Zip Disks and Floppies.

[Anonymous No.2514097]

>>2514089
I'm sorry I don't have exact references for the price of CD burning hardware for every year of the 90s. That example was the closest I have for the time frame.

[Anonymous No.2514098]

>>2514087
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R
in September 1995, Hewlett-Packard introduced its model 4020i manufactured by Philips, which, at $995, was the first recorder to cost less than $1000.

Shit was NOT cheap until the late '90s. And CD-RW didn't come out until '97, so every burn was a coaster once you were done with it. And you can't develop software with a 1-hour lag. You only burn a real CD for a nearly finished version of something, like to show off a demo.

So much underage in this thread.

[Anonymous No.2514102]

>>2513626

I have a SNES and it isn't yellow at all. Not all age badly

[Anonymous No.2514103]

>>2514076
this is why we can't have nice things

now no living soul will dump anything

[Anonymous No.2514105]

>>2513635
>.I want to live in the alternate reality where this was realized.

Someone's written an alternate history story dealing with just that. It's a bit idealistic, but fun.

PLAYER TWO START
http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=280151

Table of Contents:
http://www.alternatehistory.com/Discussion/showpost.php?p=10900159&postcount=1487

Some greatest hits of the world of SNES-CD...

>Secret of Mana isn't crippled on a cartridge, and ends up as the breakthrough JRPG in the West (as opposed to FF7) partly thanks to Nintendo pushing it due to a earlier "moral panic" Senate hearings on video game violence.

>The Sega Saturn has the guts of what in real life was the N64, and Sega doesn't fuck up its next-gen launch.

>There's a loose sequel to "Link to the Past" and "Link's Awakening" on the SNES-CD that's considered the greatest 2D Zelda game.

>There's TWO Battletoads sequels and one stars the Black Queen.

>Final Fantasy 6 ends up far more linear in order to better show off the improved graphics.

[Anonymous No.2514106]

>>2514097
Yes, but it's important here. Even CD-ROMs (not CD-Rs) didn't appear until the very late 80s.

[Anonymous No.2514107]

>>2514102
I've seen SNESes where one half of the shell is white and the other half is yellow. It's completely random depending on the manufacturing lot.

[Anonymous No.2514109]

>>2513975
>cyberbullying
Is this guy serious

>>2514012
But regardless it happened independent of Nintendo. 3DFX hardware was born out of the arcades which was blazing in 3D technology innovation

[Anonymous No.2514110]

>>2514105
>The Sega Saturn has the guts of what in real life was the N64
That makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.2514113]

>>2514052
>This SNES CD is most likely a SNES + SFX chip + lots of memory + extra adpcm audio.
Had another coprocessor that would have been capable, but slow.

>>2514074
Funny you mention WORM. The SNES-CD Specification Document calls the burnable discs CD-WO (Compact Disc - Write Once) instead of CD-R.

[Anonymous No.2514114]

If anyone wants a crash course on the history of this thing:

>Nintendo wanted a CD add-on for the SNES
>Partnered with Sony to develop one
>There would be two versions: An "all in one" SNES/CD combo called the PlayStation that would exclusively be made by Sony (this is what is pictured in the OP), and a CD player add-on that would fit into the bottom of existing SNESs
>The two devices would function identically, only one would require you to already own an SNES (The PlayStation was basically a Nintendo version of the Genesis CDX)
>The deal stated that Sony would have complete control over the CD-based games, while Nintendo would retain control over the Cartridge-based games
>Sony would be free to manufacture the "PlayStation" model and basically do whatever they want with it (notice how there are barely any Nintendo logos on the PlayStation)
>When it came to SNES CD games, Nintendo was basically a third party developer for Sony
>Nintendo saw this was a bad deal and chose to publicly humiliate Sony by abandoning them shortly after the PlayStation's announcement
>This lead to the Sony PlayStation we have today and the downfall of Nintendo's supremacy

Looking back Nintendo probably should have tried to negotiate a better deal with Sony. The decision they made is probably one of the worst decisions in the history of videogames.

[Anonymous No.2514115]

>>2513842
I don't know where you guys get these crazy ideas. If it's a demo cart, it's EEPROMs, and EEPROMs take UV light shining in their little window for 10s of minutes to erase the things. The cart will be fine if he loads it up.

[Anonymous No.2514116]

>>2514105
>Final Fantasy 6 ends up far more linear
I don't think that's even possible.
All the FF's are linear as fuck, ESPECIALLY all the ones post NES.

[Anonymous No.2514119]

>>2514047
For fuck sake, the transformer is INSIDE the fucking console, it doesn't matter which cable you use

You ever notice playstation power cables are just cables and not bricks? fucking hell, you can even use the power cable from the dreamcast and it works fine and vice versa. You idiots don't know the first thing about anything

[Anonymous No.2514120]

>>2514110
Sega was going to make a deal with silicon graphics but decided to pass.

[Anonymous No.2514123]

>>2514110
I think Sega would have still made the same stupid mistakes no matter what happened between Sony and Nintendo. Sega's problems were animosity between SOJ and SOA, and the purpose of the 32X.

There probably still would have been the "$299" speech.

[Anonymous No.2514125]

>>2514012
http://vintage3d.org/virge.php
http://vintage3d.org/nv1.php
http://vintage3d.org/verite1.php
Wrong.
>>2514120
>>2514123

I thought the saturn was initially going to be a 2D only system?

[Anonymous No.2514126]

>>2514076
Fucking assembler is a cancer on the retro video game community

[Anonymous No.2514127]

>>2514110
>That makes no sense.

In real life, Silicon Graphics first approached Sega of America with the tech that was eventually incorporated into the N64. SoA was all for having Silicon Graphics design the guts of the Saturn.

Sega of Japan shot it down. Thanks to the bad blood brewing between SoJ and SoA, they wanted to (re)assert control over their ward American and European branches... which had been far more financially successful than them.

Silicon Graphics then went on to work with Nintendo, because they were the other big game in town.

[Anonymous No.2514128]

>>2514105
>thinking Saturn wouldn't have done better in the west with fucking idiots running the company anyway

Besides, competition is always a good thing.

[Anonymous No.2514130]

>>2514116
>I don't think that's even possible.

It's the World of Ruin portion that's far more linear.

[Anonymous No.2514132]

>>2514114
And if I recall correctly, because of the lopsided agreement with Sony, the N64 had to NOT use a CD-ROM.

[Anonymous No.2514135]

>>2514119
>There's no such thing as damaged ram/bios
>Theres no such thing as blown caps
>Theres no such thing as corrosion.

Again, plugging anything in to test it out without experts going over what is essentially a one in a kind, almost mythical console that has been searched for for decades is retarded

[Anonymous No.2514139]

>>2514135
None of that shit has anything to do with using a wrong cable, for starters

And two, you wouldn't be able to tell anything is fucked if you never power it on. You're going full retard right now

[Anonymous No.2514142]

>>2514119
That's not the case with this one, this one clearly needs an external PSU

>>2514135

>There's no such thing as damaged ram/bios
Possible, we'll find out when he turns it on
>Theres no such thing as blown caps
They probably used high quality components for the prototypes
>Theres no such thing as corrosion.
The connectors at the back look fine

[Anonymous No.2514143]

>>2514125
From what I've read Sega of Japan wanted to to be a 2d system. However Tom Kalinske has said that Sega was offered deals with Sony and Silicon Graphics for 3d technology.

[Anonymous No.2514145]

>>2514132

I heard that it was mainly due to load times related to Mario 64. Miyamoto wanted to avoid them as much as possible.

Plus, Nintendo had a lot of trouble early on transitioning to 3D worlds. For example, Ocarina of Time almost lacked its open world horse riding portion. The game would've been based around a hub with portals, like Mario 64. The Forest Dungeon boss fight holds over some design elements from that. Luckily, they figured out a way to better compress elements, so we got the Zelda we know.

[Anonymous No.2514147]

>>2514087
>>2514094
>>2514098
>Shit was NOT cheap until the late '90s. And CD-RW didn't come out until '97
CD burners weren't cheap, but they were definitely in use in professional settings. I worked at a lab doing digital audio and video work from 1994 - 1997. CD-Rs were preferred to Zip, Jazz, Syquest etc because they were cheaper and held more. It wasn't consumer stuff but people who had a need for the technology were using it in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.2514149]

>>2514143
It's performance probably would have been even worse than the N64
Remember, Silicon graphics workstations were not really used for real time calculation but for good quality rendering

[Anonymous No.2514151]

>>2514143
Saturn was highly influenced by the reported PSX specs. The whole reason they used the convoluted 2 CPU architecture was so they could hold something over Sony's heads in advertising. Sega had no fucking clue how to design a 3D system at the time, I mean shit, who makes a 3D graphics chipset use quadrilaterals as its most basic shapes?

[Anonymous No.2514153]

>>2514147
That still doesn't mean that they were used impulsively like some kind of big floppy disk. You only burned something that you were ready to burn. You didn't use a CD-R for sneaker-net.

[Anonymous No.2514154]

>>2514142
>That's not the case with this one, this one clearly needs an external PSU
Well in that case, all this worrying is mildly justified

I say mildly, since actually frying something by giving it too much power is something you'd have to actually be trying to do, it's not something that happens accidentally.

[Anonymous No.2514157]

>>2514151
>Sega had no fucking clue how to design a 3D system at the time

Except that they were one of the pioneers of 3d games in the arcades, so clearly not.

[Anonymous No.2514158]

>>2514151
>I mean shit, who makes a 3D graphics chipset use quadrilaterals as its most basic shapes?

[Anonymous No.2514159]

Anyone who thinks this is what 3D printed plastic looks like has never used or seen a 3D printer in real life.

[Anonymous No.2514162]

>>2514151
Sega's Arcade hardware used quads so they used that because it was probably easier to port arcade games.

[Anonymous No.2514163]

>>2514159
this argument ended ages ago, calm down.

[Anonymous No.2514164]

>>2514151
>The whole reason they used the convoluted 2 CPU architecture was so they could hold something over Sony's heads in advertising. Sega had no fucking clue how to design a 3D system at the time
But that isn't true at all, Sega was after all the pioneers in 3D video game graphics with Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter and psudeo-3D before that. They were well accustomed to 3D hardware. The Saturn being the failure it is has nothing to do with inexperience

[Anonymous No.2514168]

>>2514151
>Saturn was highly influenced by the reported PSX specs.

Yup. Although that's pretty typically.

The SNES-CD was mooted since the late 1980s, but what really got it and the core SNES going was fear of the PC Engine. It influenced Sega to a degree as well, because the Japan-based companies naturally feared NEC.

Sega of Japan just reacted to the PSX in the most boneheaded way possible, especially at a time when Sony was going out of its way to make the PSX as developer-friendly as possible.

[Anonymous No.2514170]

>>2514153
I used them for client's projects all the time. I didn't say anything about impulsive, they were a preferred method of storing data in 1996. Relatively inexpensive and more capacity than Zip disks, which were the other popular media at that point. Even as a college student in the mid 90s, people were burning files for storage. My point is that professionals working in tech development (like games/art/media) were using CD burners.

[Anonymous No.2514171]

>>2514159
True.
>>2514163
The retarded in that shitty forum and on youtube piss us off

[Anonymous No.2514174]

>>2514170
>1996
That's nice. Except this is around 1992, and a lot happened in those four years.

[Anonymous No.2514178]

>>2514174
This
Even windows 95 had a floppy version because many people did not even have a CD-ROM drive

[Anonymous No.2514181]

>>2514174
My evidence is anecdotal, but the fact is that many tech professionals had access to, and used, cd burners. I don't know why you're arguing otherwise.

[Anonymous No.2514184]

>>2514178
I like floppies.

[Anonymous No.2514187]

>>2514178
>windows 95 floppy verison

That's what my parents bought. We had a computer with a CD drive. No, I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.2514191]

>>2514187
At least you didnt have to use boot floppies with broken CD-ROM drivers

[Anonymous No.2514196]

>>2514181
Because you didn't read the thread:

>>2512369
>How do you think they transferred data back then?
>>2512378
>Floppy discs, or if you had loads of money, CD-R or Flash memory.

They didn't use CD-R to "transfer data" in 1992. The burners cost $10K and they certainly didn't have anything faster than 1X, so it took a full hour to burn. You only burned something that you needed to be on a CD-R, either long-term archive or final proofs of a disc.

While you may remember using them in 1995 (assuming you even got the year right, that was 20 years ago), what you don't seem to catch on to is that you _weren't_ using them in 1993. Or even 1994.

[Anonymous No.2514203]

>>2514151
>I mean shit, who makes a 3D graphics chipset use quadrilaterals as its most basic shapes?

Quadrilaterals are less versatile than triangles but they allow you to retain more detail at very low poly counts. Given the computing power available at the time it was a sensible choice.

[Anonymous No.2514208]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if that disc is a CD-R from that era, which it has to be, then it's rotted through guys. The cart will be good because the EPROMs are safe from strong UV in that case, but I doubt the disc is anything but a useless piece of plastic history at this point.

[Anonymous No.2514217]

>>2514208
Well, I have some CD-Rs from 1996 which still work perfectly fine. Not 1992, but still. Also we don't even know if a disk is inside of it.

[Anonymous No.2514221]

>>2514208
A pressed CD should be just fine. I don't know where this shit comes from

[Anonymous No.2514225]

>>2514208
I'd call bullshit, but I remember the one time I left a Tomb Raider disc inside my bookbag during a super humid and sunny day and when I tried to play it it didn't work anymore

[Anonymous No.2514229]

>>2513680
I don't know why, but that made me laugh pretty hard

[Anonymous No.2514230]

>>2514208
It might depend on how well the disc was manufactured.

Ten years ago it was well known that there were crap CD-Rs that wouldn't even keep data for a year, and then there were Taiyo Yuden and gold-metal CD-Rs that could keep the data for years.

When it cost $10+ to buy a single CD-R, they took a little more care.

I was a big fan of Imation CD-Rs back then because they seemed to work well. I may find out just how well in a few months when I dig out my stacks of burned divx animu.

>>2514221
This probably won't have any a pressed CDs. You didn't do that unless you needed at least 1000 copies of the same disc. Because they were, you know, pressed, from a stamp. Like vinyl records. Making the stamp was the expensive part.

[Anonymous No.2514234]

>>2514230
Back then when every CD-R came in a jewel-case and they tried to invent bullshit, like how their product was "more reflexive" than others.

[Anonymous No.2514242]

>>2514196
>They didn't use CD-R to "transfer data" in 1992
You're mixing up multiple anons, I never said anything about transferring data. Anyways, I'm not sure why we're debating this point. Have a nice evening.

[Anonymous No.2514243]

>>2512969
I was waiting for him to drop it

[Anonymous No.2514245]

>>2514234
Oh man, when I could buy CD-Rs in a 100 stack pack for like 20 bucks, that was so awesome. Especially when I learned how to burn discs for Dreamcast.

And now I have a bunch that I never used and will probably never have to buy a blank CD-R ever again. And I have a bunch of DVD-Rs I'll probably never use too, some of which I bought by weight from bins at a thrift store, slightly scratched.

[Anonymous No.2514246]

>>2514243
>I was waiting for him to drop it

Brother...

[Anonymous No.2514261]

>>2514105
>Battletoads game starring Black Queen
FUCK THIS REALITY.

[Anonymous No.2514270]

>>2514221
Pressed discs would be totes fine because they don't suffer from disc rot. Prototype discs don't get pressed though. That would be like ordering new mask ROMs for each nightly build you make of the game you're developing. The scale of cost and time would be conducive for development, which was the purpose of this device.

[Anonymous No.2514271]

>>2514261

1/2

>The Dark Queen would later get a game of her very own, when Battletoads: The Dark Queen was released for the Super Nintendo CD in February 1996. The game, though significantly easier than previous Battletoads titles, was an intriguing look at the past and present of this beloved villainess. The game was somewhat unique in that it switched back and forth between the Dark Queen's past and her present, with levels alternating between them. In the past, we see the Dark Queen's origins as a young apprentice sorceress named Vixariel. In these stages, the young Dark Queen completes a series of tasks but we soon discover that she plans on betraying her master and stealing his immortality. In the present stages, the Dark Queen is once again plotting to conquer the universe, and you must gather components to build a massive machine that will drain the universe of its life energy. As the Dark Queen ventures forth to gather the components, she slaughters all who oppose her in a series of levels that make you truly feel the Queen's evil power.

[Anonymous No.2514272]

>>2512969
>REAL REAL REAL
>talks and acts like a 13 year old
god, what an over grown man child

also wtf is with the video cutting out before he is even done talking? but then again I didn't really need to hear him finish saying "this is for all u old skool gamers out there!"

[Anonymous No.2514273]

>>2514271

2/2

>Finally, the past stages culminate in a boss battle against the Queen's master, where she defeats him and takes his immortality to become the Dark Queen. In the final level of the present stages and of the game itself, there is a unique final boss... YOU are the final boss, controlling the Dark Queen as she faces off against the Battletoads. It is...extremely neat to play as a final boss and whether you win the fight or not, the game ends, giving you one of two endings. If you lose to the Battletoads, the Dark Queen once again retreats to the ends of the universe, where she actually considers relinquishing her immortality and the ending is left very ambiguous as to whether or not she'll attempt her evil schemes again. If you defeat the Battletoads, the Dark Queen conquers all and there's a very entertaining and triumphant ending of her subjugating the entire universe. The game actually makes it quite fun to play as the villain and though there are a couple scenes in the “past” levels that give her sort-of a sympathetic line or two, ultimately she's an unrepentant villain and the character is all the better for it.

>-excerpted from ”The History of The Dark Queen”, an article on IGN.com, January 24, 2012

[Anonymous No.2514276]

>>2514105
>>2514261
>>2514271
>>2514273
>reading literally fanfiction.net-tier content

[Anonymous No.2514282]

Video here:

http://www.gamesradar.com/video-sonynintendo-playstation/

A potential relic is in the hands of a dudebro, it would seem.

[Anonymous No.2514283]

>>2514208
disc rot is brought on by improper storage, if the disc was taken care of properly then this shouldn't be a problem

>>2514217
there is literally pictures of a cd with this thing... what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.2514285]

>>2514272
He said real once. You really need to calm down.

[Anonymous No.2514286]

>>2514283
Where is this pic?
Its not in the original imgur gallery

[Anonymous No.2514289]

>>2514283
Something tells me this wasn't kept in some sperglord autist's private climate controlled faraday cage dewar flsak. Instead it was essentially found in a box labeled junk.

[Anonymous No.2514292]

>>2514282
He first posted on r/gaming so we're lucky he can even formulate human speech.

[Anonymous No.2514294]

>>2514283
>there is literally pictures of a cd with this thing
Where? Every picture he uploaded is also in this thread. Also another anon mentioned that this thing probably needs CD caddies
>>2514289
The optical condition of it is good
The connectors have not corroded

[Anonymous No.2514296]

>>2514289
people attach stories like that to make it seem for "interesting" to the manchildren with too much money that collect these things. Also I fail to see how storing it in a box with no exposure to people touching or light for 20 years would be any different...

[Anonymous No.2514303]

>>2514296
I have CD-Rs written later than 1994 that I kept in disc binders made to store CDs which rotted. Sure, it might still be usuable, but I'm not very optimistic. The cart should be fine tho.

[Anonymous No.2514305]

>>2514151
>The whole reason they used the convoluted 2 CPU architecture was so they could hold something over Sony's heads in advertising.

They only changed the NEC V60 to 2x SH2. The rest of the hardware was nearly finished by late 1993 when they heard the Playstation specs, and it was NOT the 2xSH2 that made it convoluted.

>>2514157
>Except that they were one of the pioneers of 3d games in the arcades, so clearly not.

That was Yu Suzuki and his crew doing that, using licensed military grade 3d simulator hardware from Lockheed Martin, cut down to an arcade cab.

Sega themselves never produced 3d hardware in-house. The Saturn and the H1 board pushing Cool Riders was the closest they developed in-house, and they were both super powerful sprite pushers, strong enough to do basic 3d.

[Anonymous No.2514307]

>>2514303
you are retarded if you think storing cds in a cd binder is the same as storing a cd in a box that hasn't had any human contact in 20 years.

[Anonymous No.2514310]

>>2514303
Meanwhile, my CD-Rs from 1995 still looks and works fine

[Anonymous No.2514315]

>>2514168
>Sega of Japan just reacted to the PSX in the most boneheaded way possible,

For the Saturn, doing anything other than boosting the CPU would have meant a full project reset, which meant scrapping over a year of work and two complete video chipsets.

The problem wasn't (just) the cpu, but the fact that their video hardware was weak, compared to the Playstations. Not even the fact that they used quads, but the fact that they couldn't even push those fast enough. The Playstation could push quads way faster, it just had no background processor.


>especially at a time when Sony was going out of its way to make the PSX as developer-friendly as possible.

If you mean their devkits, that came way later.
They did know that they have a giant logistics advantage, having been selling CDs for so long at the time, and they used that to their advantage a LOT.

[Anonymous No.2514316]

>>2514305
>That was Yu Suzuki and his crew doing that, using licensed military grade 3d simulator hardware from Lockheed Martin, cut down to an arcade cab.
And Yu Suzuki was still employed at Sega, what's the difference? The N64 also uses simulation hardware from somebody else that's cut down. Only Sony produced original hardware meant for the sole purpose of video games.

>Sega themselves never produced 3d hardware in-house.
Also wrong, there's the Sega Hikaru which is entirely custom.

[Anonymous No.2514324]

>>2512343
>Henckel Knives Set

This guy's a high class baller.

[Anonymous No.2514349]

>>2514178
It's not suprising at all that Win 95 had floppy versions. You should have said something else. Like Windows 8. That actually does have a floppy version.

[Anonymous No.2514351]

There's something really off about the quality of posts in this thread and I can't quite place it. Just the way some posts are worded, it's like they aren't from here. Do we have visitors?

[Anonymous No.2514353]

>>2514289
>Taking care of your things is wrong

[Anonymous No.2514359]

>>2514349
>Like Windows 8. That actually does have a floppy version.
You do realize that it's as fake as this one?

[Anonymous No.2514363]

>>2514351
Leddit is apparently down, if that's what you mean.

[Anonymous No.2514364]

>>2514351
well reddit was down earlier.

[Anonymous No.2514369]

>>2514316
>And Yu Suzuki was still employed at Sega, what's the difference?

The part where Sega had tons of other developer groups doing their own thing, and they also had Sega of America having many of their own groups coding their own thing.

Just because 1 group was doing 3d, does not mean that Sega as a whole was familiar with 3d.

>Only Sony produced original hardware meant for the sole purpose of video games.

Yeah and after the 3dfx voodoo, every single silicon valley startup.

>Also wrong, there's the Sega Hikaru which is entirely custom.

It most likely used off the shelf components. Sega Retro lists the hardware as two SH4, two PowerVR2, and a custom T&L unit, so probably similar to Naomi 2 just with more powerful T&L.

[Anonymous No.2514374]

>>2514364
The major boards are still down

[Anonymous No.2514379]

I just dug up an old CD-R from 1999 (a no-label generic, no less!) and all 500 megs on it read fine.

>>2514184
>>2514359
>1440K
>not using the 1680K DMF

[Anonymous No.2514381]

>>2514379
>not using ED 2.88MB disks

[Anonymous No.2514382]

>>2514369
>Yeah and after the 3dfx voodoo, every single silicon valley startup.
Silicon Valley startups are not video game companies, I was talking about video game companies in the console business although I didn't make that clear.

>Just because 1 group was doing 3d, does not mean that Sega as a whole was familiar with 3d.
>The part where Sega had tons of other developer groups doing their own thing, and they also had Sega of America having many of their own groups coding their own thing.
Yu Suzuki and Sega AM2 were also mostly responsible for creating games on top of hardware R&D, so it's a reasonable assumption to say Sega as a whole was familiar to 3D hardware.

[Anonymous No.2514384]

>>2514381
>implying anybody actually used ED floppy drives other than IBM PS/2s

[Anonymous No.2514390]

>>2514359
You do realize the one you posted actually is fake but >>2514184 isn't?
Windows 8 is actually contained on those disks.

[Anonymous No.2514396]

>>2514382
>Yu Suzuki and Sega AM2 were also mostly responsible for creating games on top of hardware R&D, so it's a reasonable assumption to say Sega as a whole was familiar to 3D hardware.

You are generalizing.

Yes, Yu Suzuki and his group was familiar with 3d hardware, and making games for it.

But that does not mean that every programmer and engineer who was contracted by Sega automagically was an expert 3d magician by extension.

Let alone skilled at CREATING HARDWARE, which is an entirely different ballgame compared to writing a game.

[Anonymous No.2514406]

The guy is taking it to some random retro game store in Denver.
RIP

[Anonymous No.2514408]

>>2514406
source??? fuck no please

[Anonymous No.2514409]

>>2514406
>Denver
I bet he will sell it for weed money.

[Anonymous No.2514416]

>>2513398
What's the story on this?

[Anonymous No.2514418]

>>2514409
>mfw he has the guts removed so he can keep his weed in it

[Anonymous No.2514419]

>>2514406
I'm the dude developing the SNES game in another thread. I wish I could get my hands on it. Not only do I know the architecture well, but I have a fully equipped electronics bench and EEPROM programming equipment that would do great justice in documenting this thing. Alas, although I haven't read the threads this guys been posting in, I seem to be in the wrong state.

[Anonymous No.2514420]

>>2514416
anon couldnt get it to work so he got banned

[Anonymous No.2514432]

Oh fuck, turns out I was right about the whole Olaf Olaffson thing. It's totally the old CEO of Sony Interactive.

[Anonymous No.2514435]

>>2514416
>>/vr/thread/1065127

didnt some anon also drop their n64 out of a window?

[Anonymous No.2514441]

>>2514406
I'm about 99% certain it's a troll that started that, there's nowhere on Reddit that he says it or in the ass forum thread.

[Anonymous No.2514442]

Polygon interview the kid and closed with this:
>He added that he's going to bring the console back with him to Denver and might have a friend who runs a retro game shop have a look at it.

:(

Pretty obvious that neither this kid or his dad (who is the actual "owner") have any fucking clue. Hopefully it gets documented and dumped before getting sold.

[Anonymous No.2514447]

>>2514435
oh my bad its from that thread also.

[Anonymous No.2514448]

>>2513552
what the fuck u got against clone consoles

[Anonymous No.2514450]

>>2513359
I never will understand why sad little men want to keep things from others for no reason whatsoever, if I find something rare I'll share it with the community. Obsessive collectors are all terrible people in general, keeping games sealed in box and other such shit, but proto collectors are the worst of all.

[Anonymous No.2514453]

>>2514408
>>2514441
see >>2514442

[Anonymous No.2514456]

>>2514441
>Polygon
Nevermind, I read this interview and saw that text there.

Holy fucking shit, he better manage to get it home. Someone needs to instruct him on how to properly rip the game as an .iso with IMGBurn on a desktop.

[Anonymous No.2514461]

>>2512125
RetroN V is better than this hunk of junk.

[Anonymous No.2514463]

>>2514450
>Obsessive collectors are all terrible people in general

Pretty out spoken but fuck it if it doesn't feel like this is true. People who buy things and never use them are wasteful. Someone could really use that thing you obviously only want as a constantly depreciating asset because you're an idiot and don't really care about.

[Anonymous No.2514465]

>>2514461
maybe for your wife.

[Anonymous No.2514467]

>>2514453
well... shit. From there it will probably be sold to an obsessive proto hoarder and it will never be seen ever again.

Another piece of history lost forever to "collector" dipshits, like Conker Twelve Tales and the completely different Castlevania Bloodlines proto...

[Anonymous No.2514469]

>>2514465

[Anonymous No.2514476]

>>2514442
Assgames users scared him off because they were being faggots. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.2514485]

I honestly can't even think of anything else in the video-game world that could be used to define the word "priceless". It's such a significant piece of video game history thought to be lost 20 years ago that it honestly belongs in a museum of some sort rather than the hands of a single collector. So long as it's digitally preserved, anyway, which it won't be, but it's fun to think positive sometimes.

[Anonymous No.2514498]

>>2514463
>proto hoarder cunts who refuse to dump their games and purposely leave the EPROM chips exposed

[Anonymous No.2514501]

>>2514485
It belongs in a museum!

[Anonymous No.2514519]

>>2514476
>One of those people are obsessively finding out where he lives and what retro store he's taking it to
>They're going to find out and actually go out to buy it up
>And then post 2 or 3 pictures and let it rot in storage forever
Where is the justice

[Anonymous No.2514528]

Kek. You can't take it with you.

[Anonymous No.2514538]

>>2514519
The guy doesnt know how to dump it. Its most likely going to vanish just like the Sega Saturn Pluto did after it was sold. No documentation just a bunch of jews out bidding each other.

[Anonymous No.2514541]

>>2514498
>purposely leave the EPROM chips exposed
Do people like that exist?
Kill me.

[Anonymous No.2514560]

>>2514485
It's not like they weren't other console prototypes lying there in the wild, though.

[Anonymous No.2514563]

>>2514541

He's talking about decapping.

[Anonymous No.2514569]

>>2514184
I can only imagine the agony of being the poor intern forced to sit there and install it one at a time of every machine in the building.

[Anonymous No.2514575]

>>2514569
I could write a CD driver and hack it into a computer system faster than it would take to load that shit. The funny thing is I bet 90% of what's on those floppies are drivers for some such shit.

[Anonymous No.2514576]

>>2514569
I was about to say, I'd expect a big company to have to only install once and then clone the drive for a few hundred other computers, but then I realized, if they had the ability to do that they wouldn't have the need to use 3000 fucking floppies either.

[Anonymous No.2514589]

>>2514467
You could buy them yourself, you know. A lot of prototypes aren't terribly expensive. Many sell for less than a loose Earthbound. Even good ones can go for less than a grand. Don't let dumbfuck BiN-tards, VGA idiots, and elitist circle-jerk idiots fool you.

[Anonymous No.2514595]

>>2514467
Will you stop it?
There's nothing wrong with being a collector.
Hoarders are a different thing, they just want to hoard valuables and keep their price high, no actual interest on video games at all.

[Anonymous No.2514616]

>>2514114
I think the biggest thing that set Nintendo off was; Sony could make their own successor to this console that was backwards compatible to the SNES CD games, thus leeching off the SNES' success without doing anything on their own. In fact, Sony always succeeded because their competitors always fucked up. The PS3 caught up and beat the 360 because MS was so enamored by the Wii, they went all out with the Kinect and killed themselves.

>The decision they made is probably one of the worst decisions in the history of videogames.

By that do you mean "they allowed Sony to reshape the game market into what it is today"?

[Anonymous No.2514619]

Here is further proof that its real. This old photo shows the exact same hardware with only 1 headphone out.

[Anonymous No.2514632]

>>2514619
They could have created those fake machines based on those same pics. Correlation not always imply causation, you know.

[Anonymous No.2514640]

>>2514616
Same with the 5th gen. Nintendo went with expensive, limited old-fashioned cartridges; Sega's American and Japanese branches were at each other's throats and fucked each other over; and the PSOne didn't do much right, but it did do nothing wrong just like Hitler.

[Anonymous No.2514642]

>>2514139
>None of that shit has anything to do with using a wrong cable, for starters
What is barrel polarity? The wrong cable can potentially fry the fucking thing. Look at a Jaguar, if you plug an NES power brick in it fries a very important IC because Atari didn't protect the stupid thing.

[Anonymous No.2514651]

>>2514632
I find it very hard to comprehend how someone could manufacture an exact detailed replica from a old low quality scan.

[Anonymous No.2514672]

>>2514560
They were supposed to be destroyed. There might have been a handful that survived. None have so far surfaced and this has been the absolute holy grail of video game collecting for 20 years.

This one might just be it.

[Anonymous No.2514682]

>>2514047

It's the youth, brother.

To them this is not the find of the fucking century in video game collecting, this just "something cool" that might make a good youtube video.

"got the sooper suness prototype playstation here lol! let's fire this baby up! lel lol" cue accidental on purpose drop

[Anonymous No.2514685]

>>2514651
Because some people just doubt for the sake of doubting. It could be fake, but for right now it seems more logical that it is real, unless someone knows this guy to be in cahoots with a master fabricator. I really want to know a solid argument for why this seems fake.

[Anonymous No.2514686]

>>2514126
We throw the word autistic around here a lot, but those guys really actually are literally autistic about a lot of things.

[Anonymous No.2514687]

>>2514616
>The PS3 caught up and beat the 360
Uhhhhh

[Anonymous No.2514690]

>>2514208
I have some CD-Rs from that time period that I burn on special occasions and they have about a 50/50 survival rate.

So we'll see.

[Anonymous No.2514692]

>>2512202
>Earthbound 3

[Anonymous No.2514704]

>>2513531
PS1 power supply is just a cord. Not a bricked supply. I would imagine he might need an SNES power supply adapter, but Idk, since it says 7.6V and Idk what the SNES one is.

[Anonymous No.2514708]

man, even if it is fake, he did a great job. if it is a mockup, you can't tell me that isn't a damn good looking one.

[Anonymous No.2514714]

I used to get pretty hyped about rarities like these, until I realised I couldn't do anything with them if I owned them.

Working at a game studio, during clearouts I've seen countless old devkits for SNES, PSP, PS2, and I've coveted them but for what?
The thing would be quite useless to me.

Yes, I understand they have value because they could be sold for profit, no this does not make them any more exciting.

[Anonymous No.2514715]

>>2514704
People keep telling him to use any 7.5v power supply too which is fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.2514717]

>>2514714
I have a "test" ps2 that literally lets me play games from any region including burnt cd-r & dvd-r. Its ntsc only but still very useful.

[Anonymous No.2514720]

>>2513008
>guy realises he's found something rare on a ridiculous scale
>gets as much marketing done as possible ahead of a sale

Of course he's stupid as shit, because this still belongs to Sony or Nintendo and he can't rightfully sell it as his own.

[Anonymous No.2514728]

>>2514714

Just a part of video game history is all, you can't do much with them except play around with it and learn more about it.

This is like the video game equiv of an archeologist coming across a find, many won't care, but archeologists do.

[Anonymous No.2514730]

>>2514728
I understand that, I'm interested in it myself, I guess I'm just not getting caught up in it.
I'd probably stop short of saying rubberneckers on the internet were archaeologists.

[Anonymous No.2514737]

>>2514047
Honestly, as autistic as he is- I want Byuu to get his hands on the hardware. If anyone is going to do it any justice it's that dumbass.

[Anonymous No.2514741]

>>2512269
More like sega venus, which I've only seen one pic of and absolutely no proto exists

[Anonymous No.2514747]

>>2514741
Sega venus is what became the Nomad, correct?

[Anonymous No.2514756]

>>2514714
You're what's wrong with the video game industry. People who

A. Have no passion
B. Aren't interested in the hobby past adolescence
C. Don't even play video games.

[Anonymous No.2514765]

>>2514747
Nah on my phone so too lazy to post the pic, but GIS it, looks like a disc man with the words 32 BIT on it. Was probably a cdx with 32x built in..

[Anonymous No.2514769]

>>2514765
Nvm I figured out how to do it.

[Anonymous No.2514865]

>>2512152
Is it really that surprising to you? Look at the playstation pads, they STILL look exactly like a poorly named snes controller with 3dimensional grips.

[Anonymous No.2514873]

>>2513417
/vr/ is as much stuck up their own asses as /m/ is.

[Anonymous No.2514887]

>>2514616
Smells like sonypony.

[Anonymous No.2514889]

>>2514715
it's not stupid. it's fine as long the polarity is correct and enough watt. that 0,1v difference rarely is needed, since in most consoles internally it's stepped down anyway.

[Anonymous No.2514904]

>>2514889
it probably would be fine but who would be stupid enough to risk it with a one of a kind holy grail.

[Anonymous No.2514921]

>>2514904
>but who would be stupid enough
Did you not see who's hands this thing is in?

[Anonymous No.2514973]

Yeah, you guys are freaking the fuck out about the power supply.

[Anonymous No.2514974]

>>2514973
Too late anyway, he apparently sold it to a "retro shop"

[Anonymous No.2514992]

>>2514974

Dumb fuck, he got sooo jewed over.

[Anonymous No.2514998]

>>2514974
source of him actually selling the thing?

[Anonymous No.2515002]

>>2514998
None, but they would obviously want to buy the thing at any price

[Anonymous No.2515049]

>>2514974
Goddamn, he's not selling it. Read the text again. His friend owns a retro shop and he wanted him to take a look at it. He's not taking it to GameStop.

[Anonymous No.2515121]

>>2514865
Look at the controller's plug, it has the Sony logo MOLDED into it. You can't do that with paint.

[Anonymous No.2515145]

>>2515121
I think he meant the ones the retail playstation uses

[Anonymous No.2515173]

We hit bump limit, let's try a new thread:

>>2515172
>>2515172
>>2515172
>>2515172
>>2515172

[Anonymous No.2515349]

>>2514324
That's not the Henckel logo.

[Anonymous No.2515442]

>>2514704
PSOne.

[Anonymous No.2515498]

>>2513587
He is just butthurt because he got new games only on his birthday or Christmas. And if the game would suck then tough luck, lol. I had a great childhood too in Russia with PS1 and ton of cheap pirate games.