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2509569 No.2509569 [Reply] [Original]

Have you ever beaten the NES version of Super Mario Bros. in one sitting with no warp zones or save states? I'm talking from start to finish in one go, every single level.

>> No.2509572 [DELETED] 

ive beaten ur mom from start to finish on the go in one sitting.

>> No.2509574

Yes, but I used both hands.

>> No.2509575

>>2509569
That would be the normal way to play it, yes. It only takes half an hour.

>> No.2509583

Yes. When I was 5, back in 1988.

How's it feel being 27 years late to the party?

>> No.2509693

>>2509569
Many, many times, more than any other game.

>> No.2511170

>>2509569
Of course.

If you can't or haven't done this, you have absolutely no place on this fucking board and need to fuck off srsly.

>> No.2511174

A couple of times.

Don't really want to do it again though.

>> No.2511191

Don't think so.
I've beaten it something like 7 times in a row in one sitting with warp zones though.

>> No.2511212

>>2511170
This should be required every time you log onto /vr/. Srs. Beat SMB without warp zones, and only then you get 24 hour posting privileges.

>> No.2511218

>>2511212
yea elitism about beating fucking super mario brothers
such special snowflake, much wow

>> No.2511239

>>2511218
>butthurt over a joke post
kek :^)

>> No.2511241

>>2509569
Nah. I probably could, but I'm not really that into the game, although it is good. I've beat Ninja Gaiden in one sitting though.

>> No.2511258

>>2511218
You're a snowflake if you haven't. I get that young people get into older games, but really the first thing you should do even if you aren't a big Nintendo fan is grab the SNES SMB1-3+World cart / ROM and play through them all. Even 2. You wont be sorry you did.

>> No.2511261

the game is one of the few that's probably easier if you do the speedrun strats rather than play it normally

>> No.2511264

>>2511239
in which case I apologize

>> No.2511269

>>2511258
your missing the point, mario 1 is one of the most popular games ever. there's nothing special about having beaten it

>> No.2511290
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2511290

So you think you are tough shit, huh? DID YOU KNOW mario 2 was really duck duck penis?

>> No.2511293

>>2511269
Jesus. That's exactly what I said. You're special if you haven't beaten it. Sometimes /vr/ I just don't know.

>> No.2511297

>>2511290
huh??????????

is that why there's dunk hunt on my smb 1 cart?

>> No.2511307

>>2511293
aight ill refrain from posting for a while

>> No.2511341

>>2509569
yes. over 25 years ago.

>> No.2511347

in my neighborhood growing (born in 80), literally every kid, even the rare ones that didn't own an NES, could beat SMB (with warps)

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2511383

That took an embarrassingly long time. I think my gamepad is fucked

>> No.2511394

>>2511383
emulators don't count, boy

>> No.2511398

>>2511394
shut the fuck up

>> No.2511401
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2511401

Yeah but that was over 20 years ago. I think it took me like 2-3 hours.

>tfw my hands got old and I can't pull any of the tricks I used to

>> No.2511410

>>2511398
you literally just wasted your time, you can't tell people you've beaten the first Super Mario Bros. without lying, you have to say it as "I beat Super Mario Bros... with an emulator" and then nobody will give a fuck because it means nothing.

>> No.2511414

>>2511410
beating on a cart means nothing too

>> No.2511420

>>2511410
He still beat it, though. You seem angry, friend. Would you like to talk about it?
Emulators got you down? You do know emulators are a very, very convenient thing to have, right?

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2511431

>>2511420
YOU DON'T FIT IN HERE FILTHY MILLENIAL, LEAVE REEEEEEE is what I would say if I were a false fagging asshole but I'm better than that.

>> No.2511436

>>2511414
>>2511420
this is why retro gaming is such shit today, millenials like you.

>> No.2511443

>>2511420
He did not "still beat it, though". He beat an interpretation of the game that got released on an emulator. They are absolutely different whether you like it or not.

For a game like an RPG or strategy game, it doesn't really matter. Even for an easier game, it may not matter much. But for a difficult game when you're relying on split second reflexes, the difference is pronounced and can make the emulated game a lot easier or sometimes harder. It might be fun to defeat it like that, but it's not actually beating the game. Emulating an "impossible" hardcore game like Silver Surfer and claiming to have beaten it like that is a joke.

Nobody wants to take away your fun or say you must buy and set up all this equipment. However the point is that he didn't beat it so can't say he can.

>> No.2511450

>>2511443
This^

>> No.2511451

>>2511443
absolute cancer

>> No.2511539

>>2511443
If you're arguing against save states, then you have a point. Your entire argument predicated on imaginary and insignificant differences that have no impact on the difficulty of the games.

>> No.2511564

>>2511436
Reminder that millenials are anyone born between 1982-2000, which is almost everyone on this website.

>> No.2511573

>>2511443
this guys gets it

>> No.2511649 [DELETED] 

>>2511539
Unless they are cycle emulators can be off by 20%+ without being noticeable.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/

It can add up to minutes of difference in speedruns, nevermind fractions of a second, that's why they're usually disallowed. So no, beating a hard game on an emulator is not the same difficulty or experience. If you use a cycle accurate emulator you might at least have an argument over it.

>> No.2511652

>>2511564
Reminder that no one cares what a retarded millennial who can't even spell millennial wants to say a millennial is.

>> No.2511653 [DELETED] 

>>2511539
Unless they are cycle accurate emulators they can be off by 20%+ at certa points without being noticeable overall.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/ You can have lags or hacks on the game itself that the emulator reproduces but the NES doesn't quite do properly (altering gameplay).

It can add up to minutes of difference in speedruns, nevermind fractions of a second, that's why they're usually disallowed. So no, beating a hard game on an emulator is not the same difficulty or experience. If you use a cycle accurate emulator you might at least have an argument over it.

>> No.2511661

>>2511443
Does it count if you beat the PAL version

>> No.2511664

>>2511443
You must also beat it while sitting in a beanbag chair and using a wooden tv or else its not the same as how I played it!

>> No.2511669

>>2511661
that's actually harder than ntsc, that makes you better than everyone else in here

>> No.2511674

>>2511664
Only first-party controllers too, and it can't be played on a top-loader.

Also, you can't claim to have seen a movie if you saw it on VHS.

>> No.2511679

What about a DOS game, how do I determine which hardware I need to actually beat a game and not a crude approximation of the game?

>> No.2511681

>all these emulator kiddies pretending they are not butthurt

>> No.2511691

>>2511681
I have a real SMB cart and a real NES hooked up to an honest-to-Jesus CRT

This will not prevent me from laughing at you

>> No.2511697

>>2511679
Console purity whiners never gamed on a computer, so they don't care.

>> No.2511706

>>2511679
You don't. That's why there aren't that many extremely hard DOS games and there isn't speedrunning communities built up around it, because there's no standard platform that will play it all the same way genius.

You can cry all you want but emulators that look "perfect" can be off by up to 20% on different frames, but then correct it and it looks like it's the same. They also put hacks and tweaks in the game to make them play right.

It's not just being pedantic or anal, it's just a fact that it will play differently. Some games can be speedrun at different times adding up to minutes overall. The emulator at least has to be cycle accurate.

>> No.2511709

>>2511706
>>>/srg/

>> No.2511714

>>2511706
>there aren't speedruning communities for DOS games

>> No.2511716

>>2511709
I find it disturbing if you guys have seriously been going around thinking beating a game on an emulator is the same as beating it legit. An emulator is just a good approximation that plays like it.

>> No.2511718

super mario bros is srs fkn bsns

>> No.2511721

Hoo boy, what the hell happened to this board? These console elitists are an absolute joke.

Playing SMB on a NES or an emulator produces absolutely minimal differences. They do not change the game enough to make one easier, trust me, I've beaten it on both, and it's the exact same experience. If you can honestly spot the differences you probably have autism, hth.

>> No.2511726

>>2511241
fuck off G

>> No.2511727

>>2511718
U got thart roight.

>> No.2511737

>>2511721
>what happened to this board
>posts the autism meme

You showed up /v/abby.

>> No.2511740

>>2511258
They are boring m8, i prefer to play other games.

>> No.2511741

>>2511737

I found a site you'd fit in with better, it's called reddit. It's for faggots like you.

http://www.reddit.com

Try it out

>> No.2511750

>>2511737
>autism
>meme
You need to go back to your doctor and take what he has to say seriously next time

>>2511706
Cool, there is no such thing as beating a DOS game, you can only play an approximation of a hypothetical game, which may or may not exist

This is the thread that keeps on delivering, may it live forever

>> No.2511752

I'm sure everyone here has. It's not hard.

>> No.2511826

>>2511443
Emulation of retro consoles always adds one frame of lag on any normal PC setup, something the original consoles do not have. This is always a disadvantage.

>> No.2511895

yeah. what else were my sister and i to do in the late 80's?

>> No.2511912

I beat it on my Dreamcast using NesterDC 6 without savestates.

That means I beat it on a console, with a crt.

>> No.2511924

>>2511443
This post is hilarious to me.
Why do you care about how someone beats a game? I mean seriously is your life THAT shallow and pathetic. Who the fuck cares?

>> No.2511935

>>2511895
Go outside and play?

>> No.2512046

I was born in 1995 and I beat it in half an hour on my first time with 10.

No one needs to play this game. No one needs to play any game. That there is elitism about beating this easy as fuck game shows that the old men around here not to get the fuck out and leave immediately this anime image board and work on their miserable careers.

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>>2512046
>No one needs to play any game.

>> No.2512791

It's as simple as this: Someone beating a game on an emulator isn't the same as a console. I've never met someone who games on emulators who doesn't use save scumming.

I know this will get flooded with "I don't!" and "Not me", but even if you're telling the truth, you're extremely rare. Whenever emulators are brought up in comparison to consoles, save states are the most common 'perk' thrown out after free games. Remember when bsnes didn't have save states? Mass bitching.

So it is, and always will be... Emulator = Cheaters.

The trick is to not care what others think of you. Play games the way you want to play, and don't have a chip on your shoulder. And at the same time, understand that you might be playing with a handicap.

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>>2512791
How is it possible to cheat at a game that you aren't actually playing in the first place?

>> No.2513067

>>2511924
Have you no brain? It matters because a lot of what they say about the game can be inaccurate, if they claim they beat the game that's a lie, particularly a really hard game.

It's like that retard saying "I beat it in half an hour on my first time" except less obvious.

>> No.2513075

I beat it on an emulator when I was a kid without any tools or cheats. The program was shareware, so save states were disabled. I later found a code to unlock the full version well after beating SMB.

Does that count?

>> No.2513093

>>2513075
Only to sane people

>> No.2513094

>>2512791

Your statement is pretty dumb, but it made me think if there aren't emulators without save/load states.

>> No.2513947

>>2513067
And why do you care if someone claims to have beaten a game when they haven't? I mean, how does it effect YOU personally?

>> No.2513962

No. NES was never really a thing in the UK, so it's not a childhood game for me. I probably should some day, though.
I've beaten 3 (all star version) and world, though.

>> No.2513967

>>2509569
Of course. Wait, you mean some people still haven't? Well, I guess newborns and some secluded aborigines, but I figured we weren't including them.

>> No.2513995

>>2513947
ah you kids today, it's like your logic is broken. If you say something false online (or in real life), that affects everyone that reads it. This won't give people sleepless nights, but it's worth pointing out that it's a lie. Are you seriously asking about the merit of reading something that's true rather than something that's false?

I'm not talking about going around /vr/ saying they beat SMB, that's more just being pedantic, anyone can beat SMB. The tiny irregularities won't come into play. Games that are considered broken hard though are a genuine accomplishment that some people couldn't do, at least not in a respectable time frame. Writing messages and reviews when it's not even the actual game. All you have to do is say you beat it on an emulator, just clarify that.

>> No.2514008

>>2513995
either way you haven't accomplished anything

>> No.2514014

>>2511564
No, it's people born within +/- 5 years of 2000 (the millennia)

>> No.2514161

>>2514008
Just stfu. You clearly aren't able to have a proper conversation.

>> No.2514173

>>2514014
No. A millennial is what people used to call "Gen Y" before someone realized that sounds fucking retarded. It is exactly what the guy you quoted said it was.

>> No.2514180

>post a single picture
>entire thread derails

whoops

>> No.2514264

>>2514180
There wasn't much to say on the original topic that wasn't said by you and the posts before yours so the retard brigade took it on themselves to start a new discussion

>> No.2514291

>>2511443
>He beat an interpretation of the game that got released on an emulator.
what the fuck are you trying to say.
if you don't use savestates, the game is the same.

>They are absolutely different whether you like it or not.
kek. they are not.

>implying 1 frame of input lag added changes the game in any significant way

>> No.2514314

>>2514161
you haven't accomplished anything. you're just a middle aged man sitting alone in the basement playing a children's toy

>> No.2514332

>>2513995
>you kids
everybody sperging about this seems to be a console kiddie

>I'm not talking about going around /vr/ saying they beat SMB
>All you have to do is say you beat it on an emulator, just clarify that.
guy posted a screenshot from an emulator, hope that's clear enough

>Games that are considered broken hard though are a genuine accomplishment that some people couldn't do,
take this into a shmup or other arcade game thread and see how many of those guys are playing on original hardware

>> No.2514360

>>2514291
>>implying 1 frame of input lag added changes the game in any significant way

A few frames is everything in an intense game. Lag in the original console, things timed differently. These are clear discrepancies and this is well known.

>>2514314
If you're calling all videogames a "children's toy" then you should leave this board and never play videogames again.

>> No.2514689

>>2514360
>These are clear discrepancies and this is well known.
It's also well known that different models of consoles have different timings, as evident by console-verified TAS'es performing differently on different console models.

It's also well-known that you'll experience different amounts of input lag depending on what kind of TV you're using.

So if emulators don't count as the real game because they change the game from the original state, then by the same logic you have to decide what TV and console models don't count too.

>> No.2514726 [DELETED] 

>>2514360
>If you're calling all videogames a "children's toy" then you should leave this board and never play videogames again.
So what video game isn't a children's toy? Your pretentious art games? Simulations?

Video games are electronic toys faggot, there's nothing wrong with that. You can be a toy enthusiast and not be a giant sperg too.

>> No.2514753

>>2511564
Millennials are fine. It's Gen Z that's the problem. That's all the faggots here born '95+ (probably you, kek).

I fucking hate Gen Z.

>> No.2514776

>>2514753
>It's Gen Z

I didn't even knew about it, who come up with this shit ?
You have some problem if you go search for this bullshit just to hate someone.
And i'm 30.

>> No.2514793

>>2514776
lol no you're not
you're a '96fag guaranteed

>> No.2514971

I spent around 1½ week playing Battletoads on emulator non-stop until I managed to beat it. I live in Europe so I cba to import an american NES and Battletoads to not suffer the PAL conversion bullshit.

Are there really people out there who would claim I haven't actually beaten the game?

>> No.2515041

I've been seeing clocking SMB1 specific threads a lot lately

>> No.2515047

>>2514971
why do you care what people think? spending the weekend playing videogames makes you a loser in the eyes of the majority of people

>> No.2515051
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2515051

this is an enlightening thread, I'm so glad we're having this important discussion

>> No.2515052

This reminds me of that faggot who thinks if you used stage select for practicing a shmup you haven't actually beaten it, because the kids in japan weren't allowed to do that in arcades or whatever. In fact I think it's the same faggot posting here.

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>>2511269

I went back a few years ago and finally beat Super Mario Land for the first time on my original gameboy.

I felt pretty special.

>> No.2515196

>>2515187
mario land is piss easy, but really great

>> No.2515205

Ah, just when I wonder why I stopped coming here I open this thread and am instantly reminded.

People arguing about something that is meant to bring happiness. Very disappointing.

>> No.2515362

>>2511212
>requirement
>log on
>4chan
Maybe you should find another discussion board

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>>2511394
>>2511436

>> No.2515380

>>2514971
Tough shit, you did not beat the game unless you beat it on a NES, period. You might be able to beat it on a NES, maybe Battletoads is the type of game that's the exact same on one. But you can't just assume that because there isn't overall slowdown that the game is the same when we know that many games are significantly different in emulation.

>> No.2515473

>>2509569
I've beaten the All-Stars version. Does that count?

(yes, I know it's an inferior port)

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2515476

>>2509569
>tfw I can't beat this game

what do?

>> No.2515479

>>2515476
GIT GUD!

>> No.2515483

>>2511170
tfw I can't beat SMB3 either

>> No.2515485

I was more of a sonic the hedgehog kid myself.

>> No.2515494

>>2509569
Yes. On an actual NES too. Sadly I didn't have a CRT at the time and the TV I had was a little laggy, made it kind of hard.

>> No.2515503

>>2515380
>Many games are significantly different in emulation
>NES
Seriously? The NES is perfectly emulated now. The only problems now come from latency in video drivers (1 frame of latency always, can't chase the output stream) and using an LCD instead of a CRT. If you install Retroarch on Linux without Xorg, the first problem is pretty much eliminated (240p might even work with the right old graphics cards). The latter just get a CRT monitor or find a way to hook up a normal TV.

If you want the easy, slightly less than perfect but pretty damn close way, get a Wii, install Retroarch on it and run it in 240p over component cables (if that works with your particular CRT TV, otherwise just run RCA)

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>>2515503
>le RetroArch shill

Fuck off and stop spamming your shitty software all over /vr/. Don't you ever get tired of spamming this same shit for months straight?

It's already been thoroughly established why no one wants to use that piece of shit frontend in the first place. It's bugged out as fuck and wrecks configuration options on a random basis. RA slaps together a bunch of popular third-party emulation cores like NEStopia or snes9x, and the it calls itself an original emulator. There's literally no reason not to use the actual emulators those cores are taken from. At least they'll work out of the box, whereas using RA just fucks with their base functionality and configuration.

>> No.2515554

>>2515476
use an emulator

>> No.2515571

>>2515543
This is for you:
>Obligatory "who is shilling it doesn't cost anything" post.

>> No.2515612

>>2515051

Indeed, as discussing under which circumstances you really beat(TM) a retro game is a thing of most utter importance!!1

>> No.2515619

>>2515554
I am...

>> No.2515624

>>2511741
The saddest thing about this post is that you probably think you were being clever.

>> No.2515868

Nope, I've always been terribad at platformers, I prefer shmups or RPG's

>> No.2515875

>>2515868
you're probably bad at shmups, too

if you're not good at platformers you're pretty much not good at video games, period

>RPG's
that's all the proof I need that you suck at video games. RPG's are literally for people that can't handle actual gameplay and like to 'immerse' themselves in video game worlds to escape the crappy existence that is their irl. RPG is bad and you should feel bad.

>> No.2515886

>>2515875
>Elitism about Mario :^)
http://niceme.me

I grew up without video games at home so I played at arcades, so lots of galaga, street fighter and rail shooters. Platforms all suck ass and are only played because of nostalgia anyway, that's why the only new ones nintendo makes are Mario games.

>> No.2515891

>>2509569
I've tried to beat it a couple of times in four hour sessions with warps and I just can't do it since I'm so retarded.
I don't think I could ever beat it without warps, I just don't have the patience for that.

>> No.2515919

I am 30 years old, I've had access to SMB since I was old enough to hold a controller, and I've never beaten it. I am okay with it.

>> No.2515946

>>2515875
You get the trophy for biggest faggot

Congratulations, the competition was tough

>> No.2515992

As a very young kid i had this weird anger problem with platformer games that when i died once, i would reset the game and try again. It took me a year or two, but i beat smb, like ..once. No saves since nes, no warp zones, all in 1 life.

Today i feel like a colossal jackass idiot for it.

>> No.2516238

>>2509569
I don't, maybe... let me travel back to 1987 and ask myself.

>> No.2516242

>>2511436
You don't get any hipster cred here with people here who care about gaming and were actually alive then by suggesting owning the physical cart makes a real difference.

>> No.2516725

>>2509569
I once made it to 8-3 but got fucked over by time limits. A strange glitch occurred where the level was neverending. I think I'll try again sometime. It's a fun game even if I never get around to beating it.

>>2515868
>>2515886
>tfw didn't spend entire childhood playing video games, had a life, went outside or watched cartoons or played with other toys sometimes, didn't always have video games, etc, but always liked video games

The thing about platformers is there's a bit of practice involved in being good at them. The thing in my case is, I've only played through the levels of that game a few times in my life. Mostly, what ends up happening, is, Mario keeps dying somewhere between world 4 and 6, 7 if I'm lucky. Then I'll have something else to do. Then once I get back to it, I don't feel like doing it all over again so soon after a game over, I get frustrated and play a different game.

>> No.2516778

It's even harder to beat games on an emulator because of latency.

>> No.2516810

>>2509569
took me about 30 minutes, i did that later for smb2 lost levels that took a few hours

been speedrunning before it was trending as a kid that was how I got replay value out of the old 2d marios

>> No.2516940

maybe like once

to be perfectly honest the whole thing gets awfully boring after a while, and I much prefer running through something like Alien Soldier

and nothing can really beat Umihara Kawase in terms of pick up and play

>> No.2516956

Nah, I suck at it.

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>>2509569
I'd bet my left testicle that most people on /vr/ can't do this without save states. Yes I know it's not hard, that's just how casual fags here are.

>> No.2516983

>>2516725
>>tfw didn't spend entire childhood playing video games, had a life, went outside or watched cartoons or played with other toys sometimes, didn't always have video games, etc, but always liked video games
lol so did I. I like how you imply that if you beat mario as a kid you didn't have a 'life'. being bad at video games has nothing to do with 'having a life'. You're either good or you're not and Mario isn't even hard.

>> No.2517008

This guy is hilarious. Next time I say I've beaten a game that I played using the laptop keyboard on an emulator, I'll get a sense of satisfaction from some "muh original hardware" retard shaking his fists.

Playing the PAL version is much further off gameplay-wise than emulating the NTSC, for fuck's sake, if I played this as a kid I wouldn't be experiencing anything like the "muh authentic console feel".
NES emulation is for all intents identical.Stay mad, faggot.

>> No.2517028

Just loaded up SMB after more than half a decade in honour of this thread.

No save state used or warp zones, made it to 5-3 before getting the game over.

You guys try the same, it will be fun, let's see how far we can get on first try after ages.

Also I'm genuinely impressed by this game. It still feels fucking great, platforming feels solid, levels are well designed, Mario's momentum requires mastery and the game sure is unforgiving with the little lives you have. Coins are therefore always satisfying to get to reach that 100 for the extra life. Feels just as good as it did when I was 5. Timeless game to be sure.

>> No.2517037

>>2517028
I played the all-stars version I grew up with for the first time in maybe 5-6 years yesterday and made it through without any game overs without warps.

>> No.2517098

>>2515543
Retroarch works fine for me. In fact the GBA emulation I got on it works far better than the standalone does. Only real issue I have with it is that it seems needlessly difficult to change button configurations. So I just use the standalone for NES games since it has O mapped to jump and X mapped to run for Mario for example.

I use a DS3 since 360 dpad is shit.

>> No.2517101

>>2517037
all-stars version is insanely easier for all games.

>> No.2517105

>>2517098
Config is a bit fucked in Retroarch but once you set it up with specific controls for each system it's a dream. Every RA core runs better for me than the emulators themselves - I can barely run MAME on my laptop, on this thing they run smoothly. Same thing with Mednafen.

>> No.2517114

>>2515886
it's not elitism though. mario is easy. the fact is that if you're not good at platformers, one of the most basic tests of gamer coordination and control, then in all probability you're shitty at all games that require any semblance of skill :)

>> No.2517149

>>2517105
Should I do this with the keyboard? I tried mapping the controls using the controller but it started getting all screwy for some reason. As in it seemed to start locking up the controller until I closed RA. Also how do you set it for each emulator? I go to setting and imput options but I am not seeing it.

>> No.2517158

>>2509569
I had the original game on the NES but never beat it, I beat the remake on the SNES with savegames (not savestates) and then I beat the anniversary version on the Wii without saves but with warps.

Does beating the Wii version count in the minds of emu-haters?

>> No.2517162 [DELETED] 

How hard is it for you fucking dipshits to understand? It "counts" that you beat it on an emulator, just don't say you beat it period because people assume the original emulator. For many consoles it can be very different.

Nobody's being "elitist", nobody's hating emus, we're saying don't just interchange the two as if it's all the same thing.

It's completely fair. The people getting all butthurt about people saying they didn't beat it on the NES are the ones with the issues.

>> No.2517164 [DELETED] 

How hard is it for you dipshits to understand? It "counts" that you beat it on an emulator, just don't say you beat it period because people assume the original emulator. For many consoles it can be very different.

Nobody's being "elitist", nobody's hating emus, we're saying don't just interchange the two as if it's all the same thing.

It's completely fair. The people getting all butthurt about people saying they didn't beat it on the NES are the ones with the issues.

>> No.2517167

How hard is it for you dipshits to understand? It "counts" that you beat it on an emulator, just don't say you beat it period because people assume the original console. For many consoles/games it's known to be completely different.

Nobody's being "elitist", nobody's hating emus, we're saying don't just interchange the two as if it's all the same thing.

It's completely fair. The people getting all butthurt about people saying they didn't beat it on the NES are the ones with the issues.

>> No.2517171

>>2517164
>we're saying

you're saying

>> No.2517215

>>2517171
I'm not the only non-retard around here.

>> No.2517224

>>2517149
You need to enable the "Per-Core Configs" in the Setings. Then you can "Save New Config" in the Main Menu or choose a new one manually with the option above. It should automatically switch now but I'm not sure, I had a bit of trouble with making it work.

I don't know what's happening with your joystick, maybe you could ask over their forums or something.

>> No.2517270

>>2517167
>How hard is it for you dipshits to understand? It "counts" that you beat it on an emulator

>>2511394
>emulators don't count, boy


>How hard is it for you dipshits to understand?

>> No.2517314

>>2517101
Can someone post those comparison videos again to show just how "insanely easier" the all-stars versions are?

>> No.2517558

I just can't do it. I keep trying but most of the time I'm game over by world 4. World 5 only gets harder from there. Games way too difficult.

>> No.2517924

>>2517314
There is a video that shows the different gravity - but that doesn't affect the difficulty for me, I'm equally good/bad at both versions.

>> No.2517941

>>2511218
>much wow
Do we have to use retro memes on this board as well?

>> No.2517986

>>2517924
Well, the only thing I can think of that would make it "insanely easier", would be that you have 2 more lives to start with on All-Stars. I guess that would make it "insanely easier" if one sucked.

>> No.2517990

>>2509575
Under a minute per stage? I call shenanigans.
The earlier stages are certainly doable in under a minute, but many of the latter ones are just not.
Takes me about an hour.

>> No.2517994

>>2511443
>>2511706
>>2511716
>>2512791
>>2513995

>He beat an interpretation of the game that got released on an emulator.

what the fuck am I reading you insane bastard

doctorwhat please get the fuck off /vr/

>> No.2518000

>>2517990
>but many of the latter ones are just not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB9lO_1t_oI

doesn't even take 20 minutes at best

>> No.2518005

>>2518000
Not watching the video, but I'm assuming it's some hyper-elite gamer, have I got that right? The majority of us lack the wherewithal to play games like that. It's highly unlikely that Anon takes thirty minutes to finish the game. Forty-five is believable, but thirty is not.

>> No.2518009

>>2518005

oh yeah it's the world record done by an insane autist whose speedrun with warps is only like a few frames off from being tied with an actual machine playing the game.

Thirty's pretty fucking achievable by even non-autists to be honest. I buy it completely.

>> No.2518054

>>2518000
To me, what is really impressive about this is making sure he doesn't get the fireworks at the end of each stage.

>> No.2518087

>>2517114
nothing wrong with being bad at videogames, you can still enjoy them just fine :)

>> No.2518121

>>2516725
It wasn't a glitch. You have to take the correct path or it loops

>> No.2518128

>>2518087
thats true actually

glahf :)

>> No.2518152

>>2518009
Thirty without warps is just not.
There are eight worlds of four stages each.
That's 8 × 4 = 32 stages total.
Thirty minutes equals eighteen-hundred seconds.
1800 seconds ÷ 32 stages = 56.25 seconds per stage.
While I don't say this is impossible, it's mathematically unlikely that a non-autist could use under a minute per stage to beat every stage in the game without warps.

I just sperged out and did some furhter calcumuhlations if anyone is intermuhrested (likely not, but I'll post my findings if asked).
Suffice to say, now that I've done the research, I'm quite confident Anon does not beat Super Mario Bros. without warps or cheats in thirty minutes.

Breaking it down mathematically like that makes /me/ seem like the autist, I know, but seriously: it's just not likely and I don't believe him.

As for having a tinge of the 'tism myself, entirely possible: I read maths at university, after all.

>> No.2518156

>>2517994
My favorite is when he days DOS games don't have speedrunning communities. Doom and Quake fucking started all that shit as far as I know.

>> No.2518160

>>2518121
8-3 doesn't require a path, it's a straight line with some hammer bros on it.

>> No.2518161

>>2518087
>your skill at video games isn't your worth as a human being
Well well well, look at Mr. "I've had sex before" here

What a casual

>> No.2518162

>>2518152
Not that anon, but you do have to factor in that some stages are gonna be really fast, or longer, not all stages are gonna be 56.25 seconds. Some might be 40, others might be a minute.

>> No.2518174

done this for the NES marios. did it again on the All-Stars cart for SNES. doesn't mean shit at the end of the day but at least you managed to entertain yourself.

>> No.2518182

>>2518156
Commander Keen games are also always run at every GDQ.

>> No.2518184

>>2518161
Please nobody reply to this cancer.

>> No.2518192

>>2518162
1-1 is the most straightforward. There are no huge pits. There are no moving platforms. There are no pixel-perfect jumps necessary. There are no hammer bros. There's no swimming and the little chasm-y things that suck the PC into them. All others can be measured relative to 1-1 because all others will take more time. And lets not forget that there's about a twenty second pause between 1-1 and 1-2 (touching the flagpole, walking into the castle, walking out of the castle, going into the pipe, and being able to control the PC again).
No. I still call shenanigans. You can't play every stage the whole game through in thirty minutes. Just not possible.

>> No.2518204

>>2518192
I think it's possible. Hard, but doable. Just make a beeline, and to do that efficiently you need awesome knowledge of the game

>> No.2518223

>>2518204
10-20 second intervals between levels, Anon. Excepting worlds 3, 5 and 6, there's one underground or underwater subworld or mandatory part of a subworld per world (such as 1-2 in world 1, 2-2 in world 2 and the underwater section of 8-4) which tacks on an additional 10 seconds per transition (down the pipe, emerging and up the pipe again at the end).
In total, there's about 6 minutes of inactive time in a single SMB1 playthrough of every level without using warps.
That means that the total time spent playing a stage drops to 45 seconds on average.
Total shenanigans.

>> No.2518267

>>2518223
Don't forget you have to account for stuff like this >>2518054, which is totally optimized in that run. All assuming that there are no player deaths whatsoever.

>> No.2518280

>>2518267
Which is precisely why I say it's so unlikely that Anon beats the game in thirty minutes.

>> No.2518291

>>2518204
1st world - 3 minutes
2nd world - 5 minutes
3rd world - 6 minutes
4th world - 5 minutes
After that, looked at the clock and just stopped.

These were my times on NTSC emulated. I usually run PAL (even competed on a convention once for SMB1 speedrunning in PAL), but if we're talking time here, you're not running anywhere near 30 minutes in a casual run without knowing the stages beforehand.

>> No.2519350

>>2518184
I thought he was funny. Lighten up m8. Take the spiders out your asscrack mmmk?

>> No.2519359

>>2518184
he was ironic

>> No.2520157

>can only really manage to get to world 4 before getting destroyed

what do? do you guys consider 1up trick in 3-1 cheating? it's so damn tricky to do.

>> No.2520175

>>2520157
No. It's difficult to pull that trick off and the 1-ups are a perfectly legitimate reward.

>> No.2520189

>>2519359
ok, I didn't realize that. Nevermind.

>> No.2520642

>>2515543
>lies and FUD, the post

Do you have an agenda against RA or something?

>> No.2520650

>>2518291
>30 minutes in a casual run without knowing the stages beforehand.

Come back with those goalposts anon. Of course he knows the levels beforehand, we're talking about a game that is near and dear to many of us.

I don't see why you gotta sperg out about this so hard. 30 minutes is completely humanly achievable and not even particularly unreasonable for someone to achieve.

fuck I've done it, dude

>> No.2520731

stuck in world 8-4.

>> No.2520745

>>2511258
This isn't a Nintendo board, anon.

>> No.2520796

>>2520650
Once more, I call shenanigans!
It's just not possible and I did the 'sperg calcumuhlations to prove it even further than >>2518223 did. Without glitching or using any warps of any sort, it is impossible to play through every stage of the game in thirty minutes.

Here's an example of one of the calcumuhlations I did: using the in-game timer, I timed how many blocks the player character can run in fifteen seconds then divided this number by five to get the average running speed of 18⅓ blocks per five seconds. For the sake of kindness, I rounded down to 18 blocks even. 1-1 is about 200 blocks long from start to flagpole. 200 ÷ 18 = 11.11~, so I rounded down to 11 even (again, to be kind). This means that there are 11 five-second intervals from start to finish in world 1-1 IE that it takes 55 seconds to beat.
I timed it by modifying the game to remove all enemies, leaving only obstacles and coins. My first run through was 59 seconds followed by 56 then 58 seconds. A reasonable margin means that my 55 second estimate for 1-1 from start to flagpole was spot on.

55 seconds > 45 second average necessary per stage according to >>2518223 and other level is as straight forward as 1-1 is, each taking longer to beat than that.

So yeah: bullfuckingshit Anon beats it playing through every level without warps in under 30 minutes. Shenanigans.

>> No.2520802

I haven't beaten it. It's too difficult to not die at least three times however getting lives isn't easy.

>> No.2520919

>>2520796
Here's some proof that it's possible, you brainless retard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ6oyxclbpQ

>> No.2520932

>>2518005
>Not watching the video, but I'm assuming it's some hyper-elite gamer, have I got that right?
Just because you fucking suck at the game doesn't mean everyone here does. Speedrunning SMB isn't that hard. It's very easy to run through most of the levels.

>> No.2521001

>>2520919
>>2520932
>>2518000
lol the video invalidates itself in the first fifteen seconds, faggot
he doesn't go through the whole first stage
try again

>> No.2521571

>>2521001

>he doesn't go through the whole first stage

????????

Yes, he does???

>>2520796

are you fucking trolling or are you just actually out of your goddamn mind, I could beat SMB1 warpless in 30 minutes right fucking now. This isn't fucking complex.

>> No.2521636

>>2521571
>skips 80% of 1-1
>"hey guys!!! i beat duh whole first stage!!!"
No.

I bet you're one of those faggots that caped through SMW at every opportunity yet thought you "beat every stage."
No.

>> No.2521640

>>2521636
if you use a pipe as a shortcut you haven't beaten mario 1
you all casuals

>> No.2522117

i've been playing yesterday and today and the farthest i've gotten is 3-1. it's tough with only 3 lives.

>> No.2522156

>>2521640
> not using the pipe for coins

>> No.2522163

>>2509569
Nope, I usually burn out around World 6-8ish.

>> No.2522216

>>2511170
What if I never managed to beat a super mario game before the advance versions?

Also I still never managed to beat super mario bros with warp zones, doesn't mean I don't love the games though. I was raised with them, I'm just not that amazing at them.

>> No.2522227

>>2513967
It was my first game and I have still never beat it.

>> No.2522243

>>2518087
Glad someone gets it.

>> No.2523169

I can beat most of World 1 pretty easily but the castle portion is surprisingly difficult. I always die somehow. I used to be be able to get several Worlds into the game, at least to World 3, but now I can't.

>> No.2523212

>>2509569
not personally, but someone yrs ago beat it as I watched her play it in my house.
>1997
>hot highschool girl used to play nes with her brother when she was my age
>babysitting my sister and technically me, but im 10 and doing my own thing
>she plays mario, i watch
>she does that life up glitch
>myface.jpg
>has that look about her like she would be into the kardashians and Iggy today, not having bowers world 8 castle memorized in her head.
>owns it
>my jaw drops

so yes, my cart has shown the ending on my TV through my NES, but I was not operating the controller.

>> No.2523226

The summer after my sister got her first appartment I'd stay a few days at a time and we'd pick an NES game to beat each morning, watch a couple of movies in the afternoon, and git gud at the game we were going to clear the next day that night.

Long story short, I've not only beaten the NES version of Super Mario Bros many times, I've also beaten the second quest many times.

>> No.2523239

>>2511674
And that fucker better be hooked up through the RF module so help me god.


By the way, did anyone see the AVGN episodes where they are just absolutely shitting bricks over the quality of the RF module? Is it really that bad? It looked fine to me growing up....

>> No.2523851

>>2523239
>AVGN
>shitting bricks
Over-reacting over trivial subjective shit is his stick.

>> No.2524287
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2524287

i guess this will make u feel "super"

https://fbcdn-video-e-a.akamaihd.net/hvideo-ak-xpa1/v/t42.1790-2/11657709_711414755676391_994890510_n.mp4?efg=eyJ2ZW5jb2RlX3RhZyI6InJlc180MjZfY3JmXzIzX21haW5fMy4wX3NkIn0%3D&rl=572&vabr=318&oh=50f9ab8f2ffde0eec3e134831ed51e00&oe=559D71C1&__gda__=1436381566_53575d0b2c4df768269f761a4799ee07

>> No.2524332

>>2523239
I don't know about VHS but if you saw a movie on a snowy analogue tv signal or with poor noise then you also shouldn't say you saw the movie. Because you didn't see it how it was intended and you're not talking about what everyone else is talking about. There's an appreciable difference, just like there is with emulation a lot of the time.

It's not trying to be elitist or anything, it is just that you shouldn't claim you beat a hard action game - and write reviews and comments about it - if you only did it through emulation.

>> No.2524340

>>2524332
No, you're being elitist.

>> No.2524772

>>2509569
If I were still a kid I would say yes, lying.

>> No.2524940

>>2509569
I used continues but those aren't warp zones or save states so technically yes, I guess.

>> No.2524954

>>2524332
oh fuck off

>> No.2525248

>>2509569
Don't believe I have.

>> No.2525379
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2525379

Once those hammer bros. appear it's all downhill for me.

>> No.2525417

>>2525379

Did Hammer Bros get easier in future games? They seem like no issue in NSMB games or in SMB3DW however in the original they are hard to get by

>> No.2525424

>>2525417
I think they throw less hammers and their jumps are not as quick. Also it seems you can always find another power up if you take damage in newer games

>> No.2525701

>>2509569
I've beaten it many times. I've never played it with save states. I have no idea if any of those times met your other criteria because I'm autism free.

>> No.2525837
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2525837

The only level that legitimately pisses me off is this one and the one in world 8 with all the fucking hammer bros

>> No.2527723
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2527723

Try this.
>inb4 emulator

>> No.2527730

>>2509569
It doesn't really make a big difference if you use warp zones or not, because the levels you skip are very easy.

>> No.2527953

>>2509569
Yeah, I did this when I was 2.

>> No.2528002

>>2524332
This like say I've never seen 2001: A Space Odyssey because I watched it on DVD instead of a reel to reel projector.

>> No.2528650

>>2527730
It matters for the X-4 stages a bit.

>> No.2528686

>>2509569
sorta related

i'm playing through SMB3 with no warps and my wife (inb4 retron5) was blow the fuck away by how hard some of the levels are later in the game.

i let her play on the final levels of world 7 and she couldn't even.

i took back the controller, beat them, beat the castle and started on world 8....

>here, you try this first tank level
>WHAT THE FUCK THAT'S NOT EVEN FAIR YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE THE CANNONS COMING
>FUCK THIS GAME AND FUCK YOU
i might have broken her spirit and she'll never play retro mario again...

>> No.2528887
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2528887

>>2527723
Continue playing and test your limits.

>> No.2528902

>>2528887
This is loop 3, right? I remember I got past 3-1 through sheer luck, but then the ogre house was my stopping point.

>> No.2528903

>>2528902
Loop 4 actually. Loop 3 doesn't have quite as many ghosts.

>> No.2529040

>>2528686
>she couldn't even.
> world 8....
>again...

Cool facebook post.

>> No.2531180

>>2511706
This is so wrong in so many ways it's not even funny

What is up with the shitposting on this board, it's gone up by 500%

>> No.2531279

>>2531180
It is not wrong, everything I said there is 100% correct.

What are you thinking of, are you thinking of Quake Done Quick? A bunch of guys around the internet speedrunning for competition? Oh wow, one game. Speedrunning consoles have huge communities, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark speedrunning are going strong to this day. Even shitty obscure games have large speedrunning competitions on consoles. There is no comparison.

The 20% difference is a known and accepted fact by everyone. Your source and knowledge are just your own delusional imagination of what you wished was reality.

>> No.2531570

>>2531279
You write like a crazy person

There's a huge DOS and PC speedrunning community, plus plenty of speedrunners use emulators and emulated software. That doesn't even count tool-assisted speedruns, either

You're probably one of those crazy people who say you can't beat Punch-Out on a modern TV because of "screen lag" or whatever

>> No.2531729

I just did that, and boy oh boy I feel elated.
It was also my first time truly beating the NES version of the game.

>> No.2531746

>>2525379
Just get right up in them niggas' grills and you're pretty much untouchable.. It's easier if you're Small Mario, but you can also avoid all hammers if you're Super Mario if you time your ducking right.

>> No.2531757

>>2514014
>tfw born in 1994
>not entirely sure where I fit in