BEAVILE AND BONE-HEAD

[Anonymous No.2502213]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2496716
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

===WEBSITE/COMMUNITY===

http://doomwiki.org/
The OFFICIAL Doom Wiki, actively maintained and supported by the Doom community. Want to learn more about Doom? Check this site first!

FAQ/Pastebin, updated semi-frequently
http://pastebin.com/vPbiw4NR

IRC (Password is in the FAQ.)
irc.zandronum.com
Channel: #vr

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
http://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

So You Want To Play Some Fucking Doom? (v5)
https://data.archive.moe/board/vr/image/1408/04/1408049162719.png

Vanilla/Boom: http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/
/idgames torrent (as of 2013-11-25; 12GB): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13513277/idgames.torrent

##Our WADs can be found here!##
http://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS (old)

[Anonymous No.2502214]

===NEWS===

[06-27] The Doom Hi-res Textures pack updated.
http://dhtp.hiriwa.com/
https://github.com/KuriKai/DHTP

[06-26] Two articles about Doom on mainstream websites
http://killscreendaily.com/articles/long-live-doom/
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-cult-of-doom-the-thriving-mod-scene-behind-ids-classic/

[06-26] RTCW Touch on Amazon, get it while it's free
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010E3ZPMU

[06-24] Zandronum 2.1 (maintenance build; fixing bugs, patching things)
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=6102

[06-24] Enemy sprites by an anon, offered preferentially for /vr/ use.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/e0thh723b862tzk/GimpDemon.zip
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dj2xr2mjvdub8cf/MrHands.zip

[06-22] 500 Quake maps, shared by an anon
https://mega.co.nz/#!n41H1KQJ!3sTL61u4KVPET2E_sxUBopcGfsFKUrLtA01jD3BX94U

[06-22] Doom Radio discusses Doom 4
http://doomradio.org/podcast/program-b-episode-21-doom-4/

[06-22] PC Gamer review of Doom 64 EX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sflyowXFTf4

[06-21] Masters of Doom to be updated
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/73316-

[06-21] Vela Pax (6 massive intricate maps by Mechadon) beta #2
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/50158-

[06-19] DIKZAK, a self-described "strange jokewad in the vein of /pol/.wad"
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dldizo52c4mrcv2/DIKZAK_Demo_version.7z

[06-18] Descent, a 10 map Hexen hub
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ycs4jtj5xli11fg/descent.rar

[06-18] GBA Doom Deathmatch Remake v3, map03 completed
http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv3.wad

[06-17] Restoring Deimos, a 32 map megawad for ZDoom and derivatives
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/73047-

[06-16] Valiant gets some gaming press coverage
http://www.vice.com/read/unmoved-by-doom-ii-this-guy-made-his-own-hellish-megawad-454

[06-15] Project Brutality (BDv20 metamod) released
http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/project-brutality

===

Please reply to this post with news.

[Anonymous No.2502221]

>>2502213
>http://dhtp.hiriwa.com/
nice

[Anonymous No.2502224]

>that op pic

[Anonymous No.2502247]

>>2502213
That pic is straight up terrifying.

[Anonymous No.2502250]

>>2502213
>>2502224
>dat op pic
>dat thread name

[Anonymous No.2502263]

so does anyone know how to get Doom RPG working, cause neither the dedicated launcher for it, or making a BAT file for it worked, so is there a way to get it working with ZDL or something?(also does anyone know why Doom RPG wasn't made in a wad/pk3/pk7 format like most Doom mods are?)

[Anonymous No.2502276]

>>2502162
Thanks m8

[Anonymous No.2502331]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHbS6erL0iI
I never realized how dumb this show is until now.

[Anonymous No.2502345]

What're some good mods for co-op? Didn't see it in the guide.

[Anonymous No.2502347]

>>2502331
>They say Doomguy can carry so much shit because of Mars
>Doom handles gravity like normal outside of how much he can carry
>He goes to Hell which doesn't have Mars or it's moon's gravity
>He comes to earth
>Doomguy's capabilities is static
I GUESS MYTHBUSTERS GOT BUSTED

[Anonymous No.2502349]

>>2502345
memento mori 2

[Anonymous No.2502369]

>>2502347
Why would Hell have "normal" gravity?

[Anonymous No.2502378]

>>2502369
It has the same gravity as Phobos and Deimos, which in Doom has the standard normal gravity of Earth.

There was no shift in gravity, everything is static. Doomguy is a constant in his universe, unaffected by gravity or silly things like fall damage.

To say it was plausible for Doomguy to hold everything because gravity is weaker over where he was is pretty silly

[Anonymous No.2502408]

>>2502221
>Doom high-res texture project homepage
>Plain text
For some reason this makes me happy

[Anonymous No.2502439]

>>2502369

Why is there water surface on the ceiling in some level in episode 2? Because Doom.

[Anonymous No.2502441]

http://www.europeanspeedsterassembly.com/schedule

July 1st, d1 + d2 + quake.

[Anonymous No.2502442]

>>2502441
no dime, no watch

[Anonymous No.2502463]

>>2502347
Do they not know about Doom II: Hell on E A R T H?

[Anonymous No.2502476]

>>2502463
No they don't.

[Anonymous No.2502512]

>>2502213

Now I have a proper filename for that picture.

I went with Archvis and Buttvenant.

Also, in the iwads collection on our pastebin it seems that chex's main wad is missing. Just a heads up.

[Anonymous No.2502515]

>>2502347
>>2502369
>>2502378

I'm bored, trapped indoors because it is 113 degrees Fahrenheit outside, so I made this.

Now I'm going to attempt to play Doom with these values.

[Anonymous No.2502557]

>>2502442
Adam_ak is really good at commentary, definitely worth a watch.

Noobest on the other hand, is hoping to rebound off a disaster run last year. He learnt his lesson on why you practice your game!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlEFrs-m2PE

[Anonymous No.2502594]

>>2502557
Why would you post this
this is painful

[Anonymous No.2502603]

>>2502349
>memento mori.
Shit now I need to go listen to any means necessary by hammerfall.

[Anonymous No.2502605]

>>2502515
Now that I think about it with this in mind, Marathon making you really floaty makes sense.

[Anonymous No.2502606]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf6TH2vggHw

[Anonymous No.2502612]

>>2502605
It was a lot of fun flying around with the flamethrower in Marathon.

[Anonymous No.2502634]

What would be the most fitting theme song for Doomguy or hell even just Doom in general?

1 Rule:Cannot be any song from Doom, because obvious is obvious.

[Anonymous No.2502638]

>>2502634
Can we rule out anything by Metallica/NIN too? Doom music is very Metallica/NIN inspired/rippedoff

[Anonymous No.2502642]

>>2502634
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSAwU5q5SYc
The only right answer.

[Anonymous No.2502647]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTlhQm6f4lo

[Anonymous No.2502650]

>>2502634

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkFqg5wAuFk

[Anonymous No.2502653]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vBhkMYE980

Megadeth - Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good!

[Anonymous No.2502656]

>>2502647
Grezzo 3 when

[Anonymous No.2502673]

>>2502642
that is so 90s teen angst oh god

[Anonymous No.2502681]

>>2502642
>>2502673
If anything this fits brutal doom.

But not much else.

[Anonymous No.2502683]

>>2502408
my sides

[Anonymous No.2502690]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W5v77dASGw

[Anonymous No.2502692]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asyO6tonbLQ

[Anonymous No.2502698]

>>2502221
>>2502408
Is this a different DHTP? I recall them having a really gross wordpress site.

[Anonymous No.2502701]

>>2502653
>>2502650

>>2502638 is right, using anything from the Big 4 (Anthrax, Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer), NIN, or Pantera is cheating. All of the music on Doom and Quake were either made by, ripped off of, or heavily inspired by music those guys created. If anything, try finding music from bands that started after Doom came out.

>>2502642
Too angsty / stereotypical.

>>2502647
What the fuck?

This is my contribution :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_rTTsZZ9KE

[Anonymous No.2502702]

>>2502698

it is maintained by the same author.

[Anonymous No.2502706]

>>2502701
>If anything, try finding music from bands that started after Doom came out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2ZXmqRItM

For Doom 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR8FG_NJmp0

[Anonymous No.2502712]

>>2502701
>Too angsty / stereotypical.
thatsthejoke.wmv

[Anonymous No.2502717]

>>2502712
>thatstheshittyjoke.avi

[>>2502634 No.2502724]

OP here >>2502634


>>2502701
It's not cheating. But it still falls under obvious is obvious.

[Anonymous No.2502751]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugZagqErNBs

[Anonymous No.2502759]

>>2502331
They ran out of common myths, so they rely on fiction and conspiracies now.

[Anonymous No.2502798]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVg1PiXxP2A

[Anonymous No.2502805]

Russian Overkill doesn't load.
Script error, "RO_pb_2.4.pk3:decorate/weapons/set 1/stachanov.txt" line 794:
"NEVERTARGET" is an unknown flag

Script error, "RO_pb_2.4.pk3:decorate/weapons/set 2/leviathan.txt" line 20:
"WEAPONSPAWN" is an unknown flag

Script error, "RO_pb_2.4.pk3:decorate/weapons/set 2/bsupreme.txt" line 426:
"NEVERTARGET" is an unknown flag

Script error, "RO_pb_2.4.pk3:decorate/weapons/set 2/instafun.txt" line 682:
"NEVERTARGET" is an unknown flag

Bad hex number: No
Bad hex number: No
Script error, "RO_pb_2.4.pk3:decorate/weapons/mp40.txt" line 154:
"WEAPONSPAWN" is an unknown flag


Execution could not continue.

5 errors while parsing DECORATE scripts
pls send help i wanna kill with fellow comrades

[Anonymous No.2502807]

>>2502805
Update to the latest GZDoom build

[Anonymous No.2502817]

>>2502805
When in doubt, upgrade to a later dev build.

[Anonymous No.2502829]

>>2502807
>>2502817
Damn, didn't expect to be out so quick. My bad

[Anonymous No.2502837]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWo_OQ6O7vk

[Anonymous No.2502851]

having an error running Doom RPG with GZDoom, here's a screencap showing what it says went wrong and here's how I have the bat file for it set up;

C:\Users\joe\Documents\ZDoom\GZDoom/gzdoom.exe -file "DoomRL Arsenal Beta 7.94.wad" "DoomRL HUD.wad" "DoomRL Monsters Beta 5.2.wad" DoomRPG\DoomRPG DoomRPG\DoomRPG-Brightmaps DoomRPG\DoomRPG-Extras DoomRPG\DoomRPG-RLArsenal DoomRPG\DoomRPG-RLMonsters


also I tried updating GZDoom to the most recent version, but that just gave me a different set of errors, I'll post that one shortly

[Anonymous No.2502869]

>>2502851
and the other set of errors

[Anonymous No.2502872]

What are some easy maps that I can play HD with?

[Anonymous No.2502875]

>>2502851
Either you're loading it in the wrong order or you need to update either GZDoom or DoomRPG. Either (either either) way, just use the launcher.

[Anonymous No.2502889]

What do you think of the island

[Anonymous No.2502891]

>>2502889
Goofy looking.

[Anonymous No.2502905]

>>2502889
Looks good, except for that tree on the bottom right.

[Anonymous No.2502916]

>>2502875
I've tried using the launcher but it doesn't work right, but I'll give it another shot

[Anonymous No.2502932]

>>2502916
>>2502875
and while I got the Launcher to work right, it still won't run(seriously why the hell didn't the author make Doom RPG into a wad or pk3 like everyone else does?)

[Anonymous No.2502938]

>>2502932
That sounds like you forgot to load a file.

[Anonymous No.2502945]

>>2502889
This looks so wrong in Doom.

[Anonymous No.2502947]

>>2502889
DOOM: Farcry Edition

[Anonymous No.2502959]

>>2502938
well it worked when I turned off all the patches(Doom RLA, RLA Monsters, Extras, Brightmaps, and whatever the heck TUTNT is, although Brightmaps did work)

[Anonymous No.2502972]

>>2502889
Too much.

[Anonymous No.2502995]

>>2502959
okay I got it to work with RLA and RLA Monsters, but the HUD isn't loading right at least I assume it isn't cause it isn't showing Ammo or Armor or anything like that, barely showing anything in fact

[MadoKage No.2503000]

Even though this is getting worked on I will share it anyways.

MAP04

http://www.best-ever.org/download?file=gbadmplusv3a.wad

[Anonymous No.2503029]

>>2502347
>>2502369
>>2502378

For those who do not care about D3 - according to D3's lore, being in hell provides people with so called "Hercules complex" - they feel no fatigue and have no need for food/water while in hell.

My guess is that Doomguy spent so much time in hell so the effect stuck.

Reposting >>2501910 because relevant

>be Doomguy
>Demons invade Mars, everyone but you died, and you have to fight them
>They are ridiculously stronk and can tear you in half with ease
>Shit's scary as fuck, but you have no choice but to press on
>go to Hell
>Shit's downright terrifying
>But then you notice something
>You no longer need no food nor water
>You no longer feel tired no matter what you do, even if you carry shitton of weapons.
>You feel the best you felt in your life
>Euphoria comes, and with it new strength flows through you
>"It's my turn now to Rip and Tear, bitches!"
>You walk through Hell, guns blazing, wrecking everything on your path, and beat all the invasion forces on your own
>And then you return back to Earth, but the people be like
>"No, Doomguy, you are demons!"
>And then he was a zombie.

[Anonymous No.2503074]

>>2501345

>That pathetic swing animation
>that idle frame

[Anonymous No.2503085]

>>2502889
It needs fog to add atmospheric perspective.

[Anonymous No.2503109]

>>2502634
For the name of the song.
https://youtu.be/xLxhwgSQeas

And a non metal song for a change.
https://youtu.be/FgmhfSuDybA

[Anonymous No.2503314]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKu0do-Y9sE

[Anonymous No.2503317]

What is the hardest non-slaughterwad?

[Anonymous No.2503321]

>>2502642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8-sMJZTYf0

[Anonymous No.2503334]

>Contra Doom with 8-bit soundfont
Hell Yeah.

[Anonymous No.2503343]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm_MFauHzdo

So did this make anyone else want to rip and tear screw attack's guts?


Seriously though I doubt master chief is stronger than a goddamn cyberdemon having played halo and doom one BFG blast to destroy his shield then one more to his exposed ass and chief would have bee history.

[Anonymous No.2503347]

>>2503343
I heard the problem was with the animator, who's a total Halo fan boy.

[Anonymous No.2503349]

>>2503343
Didn't they say some shit like 'the blue armour protects you from plasma damage more' or something.
I remember it being clear that they didn't properly research the source material and were just Halo fan boys.

[Anonymous No.2503350]

>>2503343
Allow me to give my opinion from a fan of both Doom AND Halo.

Now I love both series equally and I see what screw attack did here but....Doom guy would have won i'm sorry.

From my experience with every halo thus far (besides 4 which hadn't come out at the time of this video's making so I doubt it matters.) all it would have taken was 2 BFG blasts and Master chief's ass would have been grass.

1 blast to destroy the shield. 1 more to destroy chief himself. And considering how fast doom guy can run he could literally just strafe out of the way of Chief's bullets then give him an ass full of BFG.

Of course this is all going by GAME logic. in universe logic though Chief would have won.

So I guess screw attack were going by universe logic since the only non game logic doomguy has are the comics as far as my knowledge goes.

[Anonymous No.2503359]

>>2503343
>8:32

>Doom guy's rockets MISS
Already calling bullshit on this.

>Master chief turns invisible WITHOUT picking up a power-up.
Even more bullshit.

>Master chief CATCHES the fucking rocket.
It would have exploded in his fucking hand.

>Master chief CAN'T block bullets with the energy sword and this is even partially brought up when they're summing him up.
FUCKING REALLY?
>Invincibility only lasts like a few seconds at best.
Bullshit
>He also doesn't even fire once while invincible.

>One plasma grenade destroyed doomguy despite him suffering little damage beforehand yet he can survive atleast 2 direct rocket blasts from a cyberdemon before kicking the bucket.

THIS IS ALL KINDS OF WRONG

I swear this fight was so rigged and one sided as shit. fuck these guys.

[Anonymous No.2503360]

>>2503359
I also forgot

>Chief T-bags Doomguy.

THANKS FOR RUBBING IT IN OUR FACES FAGGOT!

We get it you think your green spaceman is stronger than our green spaceman fuck you.

[Anonymous No.2503362]

>>2503343
>Doomguy's enemies weren't that different from master chief's.

>Screw attack confirmed having NEVER picked up a doom game in their fucking lives and probably just googled everything.

[Anonymous No.2503373]

>>2502656
speaking of grezzo 2, does anyone have the English patch. The download for it is dead :(.

[Anonymous No.2503379]

>>2503373
nevemind

[Anonymous No.2503380]

Has there ever been a Wolfenstein or Doom map based upon the old Windows screensaver maze?

[Anonymous No.2503420]

>>2503380
Great idea

[Anonymous No.2503438]

>Hear about how a member of the doom community was having an emotional time and needed support.

>Sergeant Mark IV told him to kill himself.

>Members disappears from the community and nobody has heard from him since then.

Did mark actually drive someone to an hero?

[Anonymous No.2503448]

>>2503438
No.
I checked with the guy himself a few times, he's all right.

[Anonymous No.2503459]

>>2503438
just some made up story from jellytards who kept whining that their Doom-Mods were never so popular like BD!

[Anonymous No.2503461]

>>2503438
just a made up story by some jellytards who are afraid that their mods will never be popular again!

[Anonymous No.2503463]

>>2503438
just some jelly mods who kept being tards

[Anonymous No.2503465]

>>2503461
>>2503459
>>2503463

[Anonymous No.2503481]

Mmmmmm.

[Anonymous No.2503482]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxU0C8XoLns

[Anonymous No.2503484]

>>2503481
Mmmmmmmmmm.

[Anonymous No.2503486]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm4ojHKiMks

[Anonymous No.2503492]

>>2502653
Is it bad that I only really like a handful of songs by Megadeth and Iron Maiden? I mean I like metal, don't get me wrong, but I just really don't care for their style

I do however love the design of Eddie

[Anonymous No.2503493]

>>2503486
i just saw them live last week

[Anonymous No.2503496]

>>2503492
Eddie's cool as hell
Even as a fan of Iron Maiden I can agree that their style isn't exactly consistent and that some are better than others
What albums do you like? I'm curious

[Anonymous No.2503501]

>>2502221
Woah I never expected this to be updated.
Thanks for a heads up!

[Anonymous No.2503505]

>>2503438
Nah, that was some newboy who thought that ZDoom's offtopic section was his personal blog where he could vent his angst, probably a disposeable account too.

What Mark did (giving link to a suicide guide) still was a dick move.

[guy you replied to No.2503508]

>>2503496
I haven't really listened to a lot of their discography, but I did try and sift through Powerslave a few weeks ago

[Anonymous No.2503513]

>>2503343
Death Battle is shit anyway, I'll never understand why people like that.

[Anonymous No.2503514]

>>2503420
Well I'd thought it would be a thing by now.

[Anonymous No.2503556]

>>2503508
we all did mate. but then it got C&D'ed

[Anonymous No.2503567]

>>2503556
Oh you

[Anonymous No.2503568]

>>2503380
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9x_eEnAdG4

[Anonymous No.2503572]

>>2503556
>C&D'ed

bastard

[Anonymous No.2503587]

>>2502263
Probably because Doom RPG isn't a mod.

[Anonymous No.2503616]

>>2503514
it is now.

if I knew how to webm I'd post the walls going up

[Anonymous No.2503624]

>>2502634
No other song has given me a stronger doom vibe (the game that is, not that it's similar to the OST) than Venetian Snares - Lioness

[Anonymous No.2503634]

>>2503616
How will you handle the object that made the camera go upside down? Will the random mouse and faces be enemies?

[Anonymous No.2503636]

>>2503343
some anon made a list of all the factual inaccuracies of this video
don't have the pic with me atm tho

[Anonymous No.2503645]

>>2503568
noCyberdemonhidingaroundacorner / 10

[Anonymous No.2503652]

>>2503636
Here you go

[Anonymous No.2503673]

>>2503634
>How will you handle the object that made the camera go upside down?
teleport to a map thats inverse of the current one.

teleporting will be a big thing in a maze map. endless, disorientating teleporting.

[Anonymous No.2503723]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQlZweKNBjo

[Anonymous No.2503839]

>>2503109

Christ, that Hell Knight's head looks a billion times better than the original one. It's actually pretty spoopy.

[Anonymous No.2503841]

Every time I join a survival server I always have to wait for fucking ages and I usually just quit and join another one.

Is there no middle ground between 2easy coop and wait forever survival?

[Anonymous No.2503851]

>>2502634
don't know if the most fitting, but i've played uac ultra levels with this in background

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPTGP30a9aQ

supreme experience

[Anonymous No.2503857]

>>2502634

Every time I pick up a Berserk Pack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoDn_scXqvQ

[Anonymous No.2503925]

>>2502634
https://youtu.be/thei1zxfJWA
Well, both games take place on Mars, soooo...

[Anonymous No.2503959]

>>2503925
>Well, both games take place on Mars, soooo...
Only the first episode of Doom 1 is on mars.
Episodes 2 and 3 are in hell, episode 4 and Doom 2 are on earth and hell.
That's still pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.2503962]

>>2503839
I like the original a lot.
It looks like a very demonic kind of handsome, which is fitting for a baron or knight. Also the grin on the reliefs looks very intimidating and shows their high rank.

[Anonymous No.2503973]

>playing pseudo brutal duum mod
>kill a mancubus
>this happens

[Anonymous No.2503980]

>>2503959
Episode 1 is phobos, episode 2 is deimos, episode 3 is hell.
Mars is only part of the backstory, you didn't go there in the game.

[Anonymous No.2503987]

>>2503973
G-get the kerosene!

[Anonymous No.2503990]

>>2503973

What mod is that? That SSG looks sexy a hell.

[Anonymous No.2504004]

>>2503973

I think I've seen that shotgun before....but yeah, what mod is that?

[Anonymous No.2504024]

>>2503990
>>2504004
I think that's the pre-order bonus sawed-off shotgun from RAGE.

[Anonymous No.2504039]

>>2504024

I figured but what is the WAD?

[Anonymous No.2504060]

>>2503990
>>2504004
>>2504039
pan's mod

[Anonymous No.2504072]

>>2504024
That was like my least favorite weapon in Rage.
Loading the self-loading shotgun with pop-rockets was much better, it's like a tiny repeating grenadelauncher.

[Anonymous No.2504081]

>>2503556
it's pretty easy to find the open beta around somewhere

[Anonymous No.2504110]

>>2504072
yeah, but 2 pop rockets at the same time is way more fun.
not as pratical, but definitely more fun

[Anonymous No.2504149]

>>2504060
is that the freedoom demon?

[Anonymous No.2504152]

>>2504149
I always hated freedoom.

[Anonymous No.2504154]

>>2502634
The following isn't really of the same ilk as regular doom tunes, but it's still pretty damn eerie and kind of feels like a lost soundtrack for the original Alien movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx90P7sQSTE&list=PLmGjRYYpgQDQ_A1xLACuZCmosRz-BaVsI

[Anonymous No.2504160]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQCZg2JIX7U

[Anonymous No.2504164]

So is one missing much by skipping the first Community Chest?

[Anonymous No.2504169]

>>2504164

Nope. It's generally pretty bad.
There's a few okay-to-fun maps in there, but for the most part it's stinkers by stinkers.

[Anonymous No.2504223]

>>2504164
they are four megawads of standalone levels, you can do each map in any order, or not as the case may be

[Anonymous No.2504305]

>>2503514
Preview kinda reminded me of this.

[Anonymous No.2504315]

Heh.

[Anonymous No.2504332]

>>2504315
>people like this are the target audience for doom 4
Lord in Heaven (hallowed be thy name), please help us .

[Anonymous No.2504358]

>>2504315
>>2504332
I was sort of inconvenienced when Zandronum suddenly "updated" without my knowledge, but not to the levels of that guy

[Anonymous No.2504376]

http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Hell_to_Pay

Where can you download this? Must have been shit if I can't find it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.2504389]

>>2504376

http://maraakate.org/Kali/downloads/Games/HELL2PAY.7z

[Anonymous No.2504410]

>>2504315
>mfw

[Anonymous No.2504415]

>>2504315
>shitty failed update
>you dun went fucked up
>In the words of brutal doom, GO FUCK YOURSELF
>baww, fix it

How can you write something like that with a straight face?

[Anonymous No.2504421]

>some guy revived some old sorcery platformer from the 90's into a doom mega wad called "Hocusdoom"

Amazingly fun shit

[Anonymous No.2504430]

>>2503973
This shotgun is stronk

[Anonymous No.2504435]

>>2503373
>>2503379
I know you've already got it figured out, but for future reference, the Grezzo 2 download from the main site includes the english patch as well. I was having the same issue as you as well about a year ago.

[Anonymous No.2504480]

this was always a very striking view. you're not really aware of the deep gorge in the center of the map until you reach it. (scythe2 map23)

[Anonymous No.2504503]

>>2504389
If it's legit, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2504509]

>>2503359
>>Master chief CAN'T block bullets with the energy sword and this is even partially brought up when they're summing him up yet during the death battle he does anyway.
>FUCKING REALLY?

I still can't get over that one it's so fucking glaring.

[Anonymous No.2504530]

>>2503359
>Master chief turns invisible WITHOUT picking up a power-up.
Actually if you look CLOSELY you can see the power up next to his foot before he uses it.

It's still fucking dumb though that an energy sword AND invisibility power up just happened to be underneath the fucking car.

[Anonymous No.2504614]

>>2503359
>>2503343
It's literally nothing but a popularity contest.

Don't even give it the time of day.

[Anonymous No.2504620]

>>2504614
the fact it got so many replies is extremely discomforting

[Anonymous No.2504631]

>>2504620
Most of them are probably the same person.

[Anonymous No.2504641]

>>2504620
>>2504631

>being this much paranoid over something that more than likely was discussed by more than three different people at the same time.

[Anonymous No.2504742]

>>2503359
This death battle definitely needs a remaster!

[Anonymous No.2504743]

I really wish mark would add more taunts than

>FUCK YOURSELF
>GO FUCK YOURSELF
or
>GET OFF SCUM

those 3 taunts get really fucking boring after hearing them atleast twice.
There's so many quotes from the comic alone he can use.

[Anonymous No.2504746]

Will we ever get a Doom 4 styled sprites of the monsters? Would be good resources.

My major complaint with the designs is that they're way too desaturated.

Honestly I couldn't give a fuck about the graphics, so as long as the gameplay is doom and kicks ass, I'll enjoy it.

I love how they've got basic modding tools built right into the game. ID Tech 6+Modified Gamebryo looks to be used for FO4 as well, so maybe we could get a DOOM 4 RLA?

[Anonymous No.2504751]

>>2503359
They're just a bunch of fags who can't get over their fanboying for babbys first shooter.
If Master Chief didn't win, they'd have pissed fans, and they would have let their god Bungie down.

[Anonymous No.2504752]

>>2504743
I don't think he can get any more lines, he fell out with his seiyu

[Anonymous No.2504754]

>>2504746

the far they stay away from the Doom 3 designs, better.

I let a heavy sigh when I saw the Hell Knights having almost the same look from D3. The new imps are cool. Can't wait to see an official picture of the Baron of Hell

Anyone saved the link to the uncompressed Doom showcase?

[Anonymous No.2504757]

>>2504315
this is why I have zip files for both 2.0 and 2.1 on hand, if I need to it takes less than a minute to swap between versions

[Anonymous No.2504762]

>>2504742

It basically starts with the halo marine getting absolutely massacred without a hitch. Several times.

Doomguy eventually just sits down on a cyberdemon and lets the forces of hell play with the halo pissant as they're at least a bit more managable of a fight.

Doomguy didn't lose the death battle.

He just had better things to do.

Like ruling hell.

[Anonymous No.2504765]

>>2504754

They do have the classic baron. I'm assuming they're keeping the hell knights as D3's for variance/flavor's sake so it's not just a pallet swap.

[Anonymous No.2504778]

Any WADs with really good music?
Picture somewhat related.

[Anonymous No.2504780]

Baron got fucking RIPPED.

[Anonymous No.2504790]

Am I a faggot for using freelook?

I don't know but after getting used to modern day games it's just strangely disorienting being unable to look up or down.

[Anonymous No.2504796]

>>2504790

Nah, but just consider turning off the texture filters.

Read: consider.

[Anonymous No.2504808]

>>2504790
look but don't shoot ;)

[Anonymous No.2504815]

>>2504778
I don't have a ps mobile device so i can't play this game, is the music anywhere online?

[Anonymous No.2504834]

>>2504790
No, but I never liked using crosshairs in Doom. They just feel weird in Doom. And yes, disable fucking filter.

[Anonymous No.2504835]

Is there a pwad that replaces only the shit levels from doom 2?

>inb4 "hurr you mean a 32-level replacement wad"

[Anonymous No.2504841]

>>2504815
I can't find it anywhere, but it's bound to show up some time.

[Anonymous No.2504846]

>>2504835
hurr you mean a 32-level replacement wad

[Anonymous No.2504849]

>>2504841
If you've played it, do you think the music is good? What kind of music is it? sorry to ask you all these questions, I'm just dying to know (lol really dumb.. :()

[Anonymous No.2504856]

>>2504849
Actually, I take that back. I found A video of the music being played by the composer, but it's not a very good video. The game's great though, like Outrun with deer.

https://youtu.be/hxQAUADFCzw

[Anonymous No.2504870]

>>2504856
Ahh this is pretty neat, he looks so sad though. also the background is really cool

[Anonymous No.2504884]

>>2504835
you can make your own.

use an editor like slade and grab maps from wads you like.

[Anonymous No.2504890]

>>2504846

good boy, now jump

[Anonymous No.2504895]

>>2504884

so there isn't. good to know

[Anonymous No.2505013]

>>2504796
>>2504808
>>2504834
>Let's mostly ignore the actual question and tell him to do things differently because we don't like what he does even though what he does has no effect on us at all.
How about I leave the filter on just to spite you?

Little do you know this is only my brutal doom folder. I have several other folders for pure emulations among other things. I just like it because it gives the game a sort of artstyle.

[Anonymous No.2505020]

>>2504790
Since my filter triggered so many people i'll as again "Properly"

Am I a faggot for using freelook? it's just so disorienting for some reason being unable to look up or down?

[Anonymous No.2505021]

>>2504752
new seiyu time

[Anonymous No.2505069]

>>2504743
wasn't there a button in older versions that just let you quote the doom comic at will

[Anonymous No.2505072]

>>2505020
>>2505013

Did the "no" last time you asked confuse you?

[Anonymous No.2505084]

>>2505013
>>2505020
>asks question
>no
>asks question again
No, but you might be a faggot for other reasons.

[Anonymous No.2505097]

Where the fuck is the gold key card?

[Anonymous No.2505101]

>>2504890
that's not vanilla so no

[Anonymous No.2505110]

How to download Zandronum 3.0?

[Anonymous No.2505126]

>>2505069
There is an advanced taunt and one liner button but no matter how many times I press either button they don't do shit.

[Anonymous No.2505127]

>>2505110

very carefully

[Anonymous No.2505128]

>>2505110

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d2rjl0wldggsudn/zandronum-3.0-150613-1038-6a22ff8-windows.zip?dl=0

[Anonymous No.2505131]

Is it just me, or does that door that doomguy's staring at in the D4 trailer look like a Quake/2 door?

[Anonymous No.2505138]

>>2505020
freelook is fine
it can let you see things you're not supposed to if you abuse it (by looking straight up or down) but it's perfectly fine 99% of the time

[Anonymous No.2505148]

>>2505131
it does

[Anonymous No.2505152]

>>2505138
It also allows you to cheat at map30

[Anonymous No.2505160]

>>2504164
CC1 is very hit and miss, and very amateurish. Doesn't help that most of the music is unreplaced. You can definitely skip this if you want.

CC2 is also hit and miss, but has far better hits than CC1. Sorta skippable, but you do miss out on some neat maps doing so.

CC3 and CC4 are generally the more consistently good community chests.

[Anonymous No.2505187]

>>2502213
>BEAVILE AND BONE-HEAD

That's Archvis, not Beavile.

[Anonymous No.2505215]

>>2503343
Glad I don't watch ScrewAttack anymore. Even if this video didn't even exist, their content has been going down the shitter for a while anyway, and I haven't watched them since 2012-2013 or so. I don't blame Handsome Tom and ProJared for leaving. Craig can choke on a dick.

[Anonymous No.2505238]

>He doesn't have each Doom mod and wad in it's own personal folder with a copy of gzdoom each with it's own unique settings for that specific mod or wad.

[Anonymous No.2505247]

>>2505187
actually it's bonevis and archhead but don't let anybody know

[Anonymous No.2505257]

ayy lmao

[Anonymous No.2505262]

>>2505238
this is /vr/, friend, you don't need to post this way to get replies

nicely done, but doesn't it takes too much space?

[Anonymous No.2505269]

>>2505262
If he was smart enough to it with symlinks (NTFS does support these) it would be easily manageable.

[Anonymous No.2505272]

>>2505257
>french
quoi?

[Anonymous No.2505273]

>>2505262
>too much space.
Weak computer detected.

[Anonymous No.2505274]

>>2505257
hey osti d'tabarnak

[Anonymous No.2505276]

>>2505238
>The Theater

[]Spooked

[Anonymous No.2505286]

>>2505262
>too much space

1TB HDDs these days are less than 50 bucks

[Anonymous No.2505295]

>>2505276
Yeah i'm probably gonna delete it.

It's literally just
>walk through hall twice.
>Screamer
>walk through hall again, one more screamer.
>watch man back down hallway infront of you
>touch brick wall
>Crash game. well it doesn't work since gzdoom can't read the crash script apparently.
it's pretty shit

[Anonymous No.2505306]

>>2505238
I set up my wads in different folders, but I only have one copy of each source port and I use ZDL.

Also, I usually only play maps, cause I always get bored of gameplay mods 5 minutes into them.

[Anonymous No.2505309]

>>2505286

>only getting 1tb

[Anonymous No.2505313]

>>2505309

right back at ya

>getting more than 1tb

[Anonymous No.2505314]

>>2503343
For your reading pleasure

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/doom-guy-vs-master-chief-1465508/

[Anonymous No.2505331]

>>2505313
Not him, but I have a 3TB external with only 400GB space left.

[Anonymous No.2505334]

>>2505126
The voices have long been removed from the main .pk3 and uploaded separately on Moddb as an addon because of kids spamming it on multiplayer.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/optional-doomguy-taunts-and-footstep-sounds

[Anonymous No.2505335]

>>2505160
>>2504164

>trying to play through CC1 with MSX
>first levels pretty good
>second level is HOLY SHIT THIS IS AWESOME
>next two levels are sorta meh
>map06 slaps the shit out of you in comparison with its challenge and design
>slog through map08 and map09 thinking, "wow, I hope there's not any more levels with back-to-back map authors because that was boring as fuck."
>get to No Tomorrow (map12)
>holy fuck that was hard and monotounus
>next map by the same author

And that's when I stopped playing CC1. I've played through it with all sorts of mods, and straight vanilla, but those fucking maps always bore me to death. CC2 was a fucking great step up from CC1 imo, and you don't miss a god damn thing; besides Thomas van der Velden's awesome map02.

[Anonymous No.2505339]

>>2505334
>because of kids spamming it on multiplayer.

Or he could've just had a check for compat_disabletaunts.

[Anonymous No.2505348]

>>2505126
There's a mutator for that for v19, none for v20 yet. He had it removed from v18 because faggots complained too much about it being annoying during multiplayer and he got fed up and removed it.

[Anonymous No.2505360]

>>2505238
that's actually what I've ended up doing

>>2505269
>NTFS supports symlinks
well I'll be damned, that's nifty as fuck
why the fuck haven't I heard about this before

>>2503343
>watching death battle
yeah, fuck that

here's my bullshit take on how it'd go anyway
>Doomguy can take like two rocket blasts unarmored, give or take (if fully armored, he can take up to 3 directly to the face) -- Master Chief dies if he's remotely near to an explosion with no shield, and can take two blasts with full shield maybe.
>Master Chief hits like a truck (like, two melee hits will kill another player, full shield), Doomguy without a berserk pack hits pretty softly in comparison.
>Doomguy runs crazy fast (he's like a goddamn car), Master Chief is slow as balls.
>Doomguy can't take prolonged damage for shit though, Master Chief does significantly better over time (and his shield can absorb damage completely, unlike Doomguy's armor).
as for weapons, I know Halo CE the most so I'll use that:
>gonna assume the rocket launchers do the same amount of damage, give or take
>gonna assume the Halo pistol is as retarded OP as it is in CE, so it shits on the Doom pistol
>CE shotgun is pretty much Doomguy's SSG, maybe a little worse (high damage falloff, narrower spread, similar damage potential)
>plasma weapons suck a lot in CE, apart from shit like the fuel rod gun -- the CE plasma rifle is like a slow, shit version of the plasma gun in Doom
>Chaingun makes the CE automatic weapons look embarrassing.
>Doomguy doesn't reload

would probably say Doomguy wins because he can take a bit more punishment at once and move faster
but from a pistol start, Chief has a better chance because the CE pistol is just that completely retarded (fully armored Chief dies in like, 3-6 hits or some shit from it)

[Anonymous No.2505373]

>>2505335
CC1 map 29

[Anonymous No.2505393]

>>2504754
the imps are just smaller hell knights tho

[Anonymous No.2505401]

>>2505138
>>2505020
if yo ever play strife, don't use it or you'll spoil the ending for yourself

[Anonymous No.2505407]

>>2505393

Hell no, they have huge spikes on their backs and they have more exposed flesh near the mouth compared to the Hell Knight

[Anonymous No.2505413]

tbh i prefer doom 3's hell knights design to the new one, at least visually
>>2505407
i don't remember that, i'll rewatch the trailer later i guess

[Anonymous No.2505452]

>>2505215
I did the same. They were alright for a while, but Craig has his ways of kicking all the good guys out for stupid reasons. When you look at the kind of stuff they put out now, it's all "top 5 best / worst something" videos and Death Battle, at least on their Youtube channel. I've never cared for Death Battle and top 5 lists are just shitty filler content. I don't like Jared but there was a time right before he left that the content Screwattack put out was kinda good. Death battle has always been shit in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.2505578]

What are some good megawads with short levels? They don't need to be physically small like 1024x1024, but I want something to blast through in record time.

[Anonymous No.2505736]

>>2505013
>Let's mostly ignore the actual question
i did no such thing. i said look but don't shoot (i.e. don't shoot things you wouldn't otherwise be able to with autoaim).
>>2505020
and to answer you again, try not to shoot things that are out of autoaim range.

[Anonymous No.2505769]

>>2505578
tvr
scythe
rebirth
dmonfear
minilevel megawad (mlm12)
extremal doom
heroes tales (ht)
swift death
armadosia

NOTE: one of these answers is a joke.

[Anonymous No.2505801]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yIxUOWrtw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NURfvG0lfpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F0AdWBmiQY

[Anonymous No.2505805]

>>2505578
900 deep in the dead

[Anonymous No.2505812]

>>2505801
I played all 3 of these.

They bored me half to death like most modern day shooters but that's their goal so I guess they succeeded in that regard.

Call of Dooty 2 is best simply because of the secret wolfenstein machine behind the so called "Menu".

[Anonymous No.2505835]

>>2505812
The zombie mode was fun too.

But that's about it.

[Anonymous No.2505858]

>>2505801
Fuck Call of Dooty.

There's a point where that joke should have ended and it was a short while into the first video. It doesn't even properly parody modern war games and just becomes a shallow homage to modern warfare.

[Anonymous No.2505868]

>>2505858
i enjoyed the pepsi dispenser in the jail, that was funny.

[Anonymous No.2505885]

>>2505858
>Joke
The author said himself these Wads are a statement about the modern industry and not meant to be "Fun" it even says this in the .txt that comes with the Wad.


So there never was a joke, just a long winded boring statement everyone already knows about.

[Anonymous No.2505892]

WHUT DUR THUR KEEYCURDS MEEN, TUGGURT

uh durnt nur whut dur furck yur turkn aburt

[Anonymous No.2505906]

Best Gameplay Mods?

[Anonymous No.2505907]

>>2505314
>MC is just as fast as DG
>MC is experienced and therefore would win
>Muh the flood
>MC tanked a rocket in the lore and therefore the game version can too even though he can't
>MC would just dodge and get his shields back everytime because he is experienced
Wowee I don't like reading this

[Anonymous No.2505909]

>>2504780
Is it augmented?
Those glowing parts resemble the other demon's mechanical parts.

[Anonymous No.2505913]

>>2505906
Zen Dynamics.
Pirate Doom.
Any others that don't make me play MAP01 again.

[Anonymous No.2505916]

>>2505913
People aren't OBLIGE'D to make you new maps.

[Anonymous No.2505917]

>>2504315
But he's right. This is dumb as fuck. Maybe if the servers didn't use dumb mods it wouldn't be problem.

[Anonymous No.2505929]

>>2505801
Yeah I too hate story-telling in my videogames.

[Anonymous No.2505934]

>>2505917
the release thread indicates a bugfix release that had so many new bugs that servers had to be reverted immediately

[Anonymous No.2505939]

>>2505909

>that leather strap

HEY BRUISER I THINK YOU GOT THE WRONG DOOR

[Anonymous No.2505941]

>>2505934
I see. In that case they should test their shit so it can be rolled ASAP.

[Anonymous No.2505946]

>>2505939
i'll show you who's the BOSSA1 of this gym

[Anonymous No.2505957]

>>2505941
>In that case they should test their shit
you
don't
say

[Anonymous No.2505961]

>>2505957

[Anonymous No.2505965]

>>2505934
>the release thread

>The health desync issue should be fixed with this changeset. The server admins are invited to build zandronum with that changeset and test if the health desync is fixed for real.
>[edit]Actually, the server admins must build the 2.1 changeset with a dirty working directory containing the changes in the mentioned changeset, otherwise servers wouldn't be reachable by 2.1 clients.

with the hoops they're making them jump through, no wonder it's broken

[Anonymous No.2506008]

Okay so I have the latest version of Samsara and this picture one the official download page shows prisoner 849 yet she isn't available to me.

To add to this question where can I get some Samsara character plugins, I want extra characters damnit.

[Anonymous No.2506013]

Doom is a over rated game and you are a bunch of faggots.

[Anonymous No.2506020]

>>2506008
>I want extra characters damnit.

No you don't. Trust me

[Anonymous No.2506036]

>>2506008

She was never officially added.
The extra characters are shit.

[Anonymous No.2506041]

>>2506008
i guess whoever made that image was a little premature

[Anonymous No.2506145]

>>2505892
Tuggurt wut r u doin? sit bak dun naow!

[Anonymous No.2506189]

Looks like BJ gave you good advice

[Anonymous No.2506351]

>>2505286
>>2505309
>>2505313
>>2505331
Why anyone would need more storage space than 1-3TB is baffling to me, but I'm sure people have said that before when 200gbs and 1gbs where the norm for hard drive storage space

[Anonymous No.2506359]

What sourceport do i use for quake?

[Anonymous No.2506387]

>>2506359
Quakespasm

[Anonymous No.2506390]

>>2506351
games, movies, series, anime, porn would be my guesses

[Anonymous No.2506392]

>>2505373
Fuck that map. I just went and played it because you posted about it. Fuck that whole map. Fuck wandering around for hours barely surviving, fuck all the bullshit ambushes in tight corridors, and fuck that FPS dropping mass of death that follows you out in the courtyard.

The Cyberdemon fights were cool, and the layout was actually really greats, but that fucking difficulty man. God damn.

[Anonymous No.2506396]

>>2506390
Loads of porn for me. Loads of loli and cowtits mostly... Anywho, any good atmospheric wads with some decent action? Just finished Unloved and loved every second of it.

[Anonymous No.2506404]

>>2503317
Scythe gets p. wicked in the last episode. Don't think it counts as slaughterwad.

Valiant also has some difficult stuff, but it never got as hard as Scythe.

[Anonymous No.2506406]

Man Mayan Mishap can be pretty nasty for a scrublord like me.
Level design is great though. One trick the mapper pulled in the first level is great
>after a rather nasty fight you get the rocket launcher as a prize
>go into the next area
>get surprised by 2 pain elementals, panic shoot while you probably still have the RL out, die

[Anonymous No.2506412]

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/247300/How_a_Hellraiser_tiein_became_Super_3D_Noahs_Ark.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GamasutraNews+%28Gamasutra+News%29

interesting

[Anonymous No.2506438]

>>2506412

I do remember that. There's also a couple of leftovers floating in the web of the Hellraiser sprites in Wolf3d style

[Anonymous No.2506441]

>>2505906
Satanic
Psychic
Demonsteele
Project MSX
DoomRPG+RLA
I guess people like Hideous Destructor?

[Anonymous No.2506446]

>>2505916
Never got good levels out of this. Maybe I needed to do something other than largest maps for a megawad with most enemies on UV?

[Anonymous No.2506452]

>>2506441
>>2505906
Also Russian Overkill and Nazis!

But mostly Russian Overkill

[Anonymous No.2506473]

>>2505835
>The zombie mode was fun too. But that's about it.
Just like in real Call of Duty.

[Anonymous No.2506483]

>>2505909
His fists look like they're covered in jizz....

[Anonymous No.2506487]

Post your favorite song(s) that happened to be used in a custom WAD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epJEdCH1BrY

[Anonymous No.2506508]

>>2506483
Considering that getup I wouldn't be surprised...
>>2506487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=terSkeR44kc
Community Chest 4, map02

[Anonymous No.2506597]

>>2506487

epic 2, map29

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzwADJqf_Ok

[Anonymous No.2506605]

DOOM 4 soundtrack teaser.
https://twitter.com/Mick_Gordon/status/615760872498049024
https://instagram.com/p/395y5KpqHG/
Sounds very djent.

[Anonymous No.2506613]

>>2506605
I dig it

[Anonymous No.2506614]

>>2506605
reminds me of the DmC reboot

[Anonymous No.2506625]

>>2502214
http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-doom-2015-6

an interesting article i found

[Anonymous No.2506729]

Excuse my ignorance, is there a Doom 64 wad to play with GZDoom?..

[Anonymous No.2506731]

>>2506729
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B68BnG5RgWAfQ0dOQzZYTFlxU0k/view?pli=1

yes

[Anonymous No.2506742]

Can anyone tell me what exactly SmoothDoomJ adds into base SmoothDoom?

[Anonymous No.2506751]

>>2506008
>>2506020
>>2506036
someone needs to do a version of Extra Heroes that isn't crap

[Anonymous No.2506752]

>playing hideous destructor for the first time
>nobody told me it would be arma2 doom edition.
>mfw i get killed with one shot
>mfw "x has died from his injuries" despite fixing myself with a medkit.
>mfw i get sniped from across e1m1 by a zombie with a shotgun.

[Anonymous No.2506754]

>>2506742
>SmoothDoomJ
What in the world is that?

[Anonymous No.2506758]

>>2506754
sounds like a brand of soft drink

[Anonymous No.2506759]

>>2506754
Brutal Doom J + Smooth Doom

[Anonymous No.2506781]

>>2506752
Literally my experience this morning. I feel like I must be missing something. Also the shit it pulls when I get near walls pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.2506825]

>>2504430
Also these little guys.
They've outright destroyed Black Mancubus and the black imp.

[Anonymous No.2506831]

>>2506392
i feel your pain man i rage quit this level while playing samsara as parias

[Anonymous No.2506834]

>>2506825
that's kind of bright and washed out

[Anonymous No.2506882]

>>2506729
>>2506731

I'm being rused here..

[Anonymous No.2506898]

>>2503438
A friend of mine who browses the forums and Facepunch talked the guy down.

[Anonymous No.2506921]

>>2506882
Use Doom 64 EX. Best way to play Doom64 on PC.

Here are the two files you are going to need. They are usually made from the Doom64 ROM, the data the Nintendo 64 would read.

http://wikisend.com/download/877308/82q-30md-qwj8ed.7z

Google if you need to learn more.

[Anonymous No.2506976]

>>2506020
>>2506036
Caleb is pretty great, if you want to play something completely broken, also RoTT one is pretty nice, the rest are complete shit, not gonna agrue that.

[Anonymous No.2506990]

>>2504743
>>2504752
>>2505021

Should I?
https://soundcloud.com/stephanosrex/doomguy

[Anonymous No.2507005]

>2002 A DOOM ODYSSEY

This level set is awesome. I didn't think I would ever have this much fun with the old shotty again. It's so cool finding a level set you enjoy, knowing you're going to go through it again with a gameplay mod.

[Anonymous No.2507027]

>mfw there won't be another Community is Falling episode
>mfw Kaiser will never mock Terryfags and Sgt Mark
>mfw i miss the 2006-2008 period of doom community

[Anonymous No.2507035]

>>2507027
>>mfw Kaiser will never mock Terryfags and Sgt Mark

good, even Kaiser knows they don't deserve the attention

[Anonymous No.2507042]

>>2505929
Technically doom DOES infact have storytelling.

It's just very minimalist.

[Anonymous No.2507046]

>>2502214
Gooberman has released a new WAD after a decade or so.

http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/73466-space-station-omega-follow-up-released/

[Anonymous No.2507049]

>>2505906

While not exactly gameplay mod (since it only changes weapons), Trailblazer is super awesome and it just reeks of quality.

[Anonymous No.2507053]

>>2506605
>https://twitter.com/Mick_Gordon/status/615760872498049024

If you're interested in what Mick Gordon is capable of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhUINujrrwY

and something that sounds more in tune with what he seems to be going for with Doom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uy08um2jKI&index=6&list=RDRhUINujrrwY

[Anonymous No.2507058]

>>2505906
I'm digging Buttsex + Project Brutality. I love how it gives you stronger weapons and enemies as you progress through the game. The revolver is so fucking fun to use it's almost ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.2507065]

Anyone know of any scary/spooky wads to play? I remember there was something where you like run around in a forest or something, but I can't remember the name of it

[Anonymous No.2507070]

>>2507065
ghoul's forest?

oh, and you'll probably enjoy buttpain

[Anonymous No.2507079]

>>2507070
I don't think was it, but it looks pretty good anyway. I'll give it a shot

[Anonymous No.2507090]

>>2502634
>Doom II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viKo_mAqsLE

[Anonymous No.2507097]

>>2507070
played it, tbh it was pretty garbage

[Anonymous No.2507101]

>>2507065
Unlove'ds atmosphere is so thick it could be canned and sold as a broth.

[Anonymous No.2507116]

>>2507065
Buttpain is fun (play it on Zandronum), Lasting Light is also fun, Unloved is atmospheric but otherwise not the least bit scary, Ghoul's Forest is the original jumpscare wad, Circus666 and Circus2 are also atmospheric as fuck.

[Anonymous No.2507145]

>>2507053
I adore the soundtrack for TNO, but I felt that the battle music was weak.

His KI stuff is so much more powerful and energetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQDab8vT8GU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLmf3n00IM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmwFBK0cyk

If we are getting a solely djent or idustrial soundtrack I'm going to be very disappointed. He's capable of so much more and he does other things far better.

Here's a remix of some Doom 1 music he did long before he was a renowned music producer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LmwGPtVnmc
It shows that he's got a varied imagination when it comes to Doom. I only hope he still has it.

[Anonymous No.2507210]

>>2507145

Cinder's theme is pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.2507247]

>>2507005
uh...

[Anonymous No.2507251]

>>2507247
...ok

[Anonymous No.2507253]

>>2507247
You're beloved wife a shit.

[Anonymous No.2507258]

>>2507247
Now that is a horrifying copy-paste job.

[Anonymous No.2507313]

ive never played quake because i had shit childhood. now id rather not play oldschool quake so which engine should i use? i already got 2 different ones and its confusing

[Anonymous No.2507378]

>>2507313
Darkplaces is considered good.

gl_texturemode gl_nearest
in console or in your id1/autoexec.cfg to disable texture filtering

[Anonymous No.2507381]

>>2507058
>Buttsex

link?

[Anonymous No.2507417]

>>2507381
back to saturn x, or btsx
google it

[Anonymous No.2507434]

>>2507251
>you're wife
>you're way back
>you're beloved wife
>you're
>you're

This shit pisses me off so much. And english isn't even my first language

[Anonymous No.2507446]

>>2507434
its the product of internet meme society.
its actually intentional, not just a consistent grammatical mistake.

are you new to 4chan?

"you're waifu a shit" was what started it I believe.

[Anonymous No.2507450]

>>2507446
That's dumb as fuck. I remember when memes were ideas that spread and not just, "hey this a funny thing."

[Anonymous No.2507453]

>>2507446
I know about the meme, but there are actually a lot of people who genuinely mistake 'your' with 'you're'

[Anonymous No.2507459]

>>2507450
>I remember when memes were ideas that spread
that's what he's talking about though
the "you're" thing spread and mutated, it's a meme

[Anonymous No.2507471]

>>2506752
Might wanna skim through the included manual file. Has a load of useful info, like how medikits take around 2 or 3 seconds to stop bleeding and work best standing still for that time. If you're bleeding bad enough to die before that kicks in, you were dead already.

Not much different from Project Reality's field dressings, I find.

tl;dr use a medikit to stop bleeding, stims to give a boost of regeneration. Just don't don't spam them, they don't work any faster or stack if you do.

[Anonymous No.2507476]

>>2507459
The fact that anon didn't understand it makes it not a meme but whatever.

[Anonymous No.2507493]

>>2507434
Also

>would of/should of/could of

[Anonymous No.2507678]

>https://twitter.com/romero/status/616064304652029952
Romero showing off (and selling) more cool doom stuff

[Anonymous No.2507694]

Is Back to Saturn X supposed to be pistol started?
I feel like I'm cheating by using auto-save.

[Anonymous No.2507712]

>>2507694
As in per-map? I doubt it, it's more traditional Doom progression and meant to be played relatively vanilla-style.

[Anonymous No.2507729]

>>2507694
Every map is balanced so that they're both doable from pistol start, and aree perfectly fine for progressive play.

[Anonymous No.2507736]

Is there a good way to replace sprites for custom monsters in either Vanilla Doom or Boom? I'm want to play around with inserting new enemies, but it's a huge pain in the ass to make sure all of the frames for each sprite are covered.

I've done some basic sprite substitution and played around with frames to create custom enemies. Eg I've changed the trooper with a marine, bumped up movement speed, and changed the attack to that of arachnotron.

However, I've downloaded some wads off Realm667 with custom monsters in them, and I want to use the sprites in a Doom/Boom wad. Is there a good way to go about bulk-replacing sprites? I've renamed the sprites in SLADE to have the same prefix as the sprite I want to replace, but there's some mismatching in a few of the frames, and there's some extra frames. Also, the new sprites don't show up in WhackEd.

[Anonymous No.2507737]

Been playing Wolfenstein 3D for the first time. So far it's pretty okay, but what the hell is up with 2-8? 178 secrets? Good lord.

[Anonymous No.2507746]

>>2507737
It's the Aardwolf maze. Don't worry about trying to complete it.

[Anonymous No.2507752]

>>2507737
>>2507746
Not even sure you can get all 178 secrets and complete the level, can you?

[Anonymous No.2507759]

>>2507752
i'm pretty sure you actually can't, at some point you have to chose between aardwolf and some door with a hans and an 1up behind, both are secrets

[Anonymous No.2507761]

>>2507752
I don't think you can, don't you cut off one path every time you open another in the Aardwolf maze?

[Anonymous No.2507796]

>>2503109
>>2503839
>Pain elemental has no arms
To me that's the spoopiest thing about the picture. It just looks wrong

[Anonymous No.2507807]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwfQsBRWsJk

[Anonymous No.2507810]

>>2507807
>The zombies actually hop in the air and do a 360 to shoot you.

IT'S FUCKING GLORIOUS

[Anonymous No.2507843]

>>2507752
You can't. A lot of pushwalls block other pushwalls. even the room that originally told you to call apogee can be blocked off.

[Anonymous No.2507848]

>>2507807
If only it wasn't a brootal doom mod.

[Anonymous No.2507876]

>>2507694
The only mapsets I can think of where Pistol starting every map is more ideal, are the CC series, NDCP series, and most concept megawads (Excluding TWID series and Hadephobia)

[Anonymous No.2507886]

So, I'm playing DoomRPG with RL Arsenal and RL monsters, and I just got shield components, so I savescummed to buy every shield accessory to find out what they all do.

That's where I found out that you could 'quickcharge' a shield via EP (while the accessory let you quickcharge via cells) but I have no clue how.

[Anonymous No.2507889]

>Show nephew Doom
>He actually likes it
>Plays it for awhile and makes it to the end of episode 1 only dying once
>says it was cooler than the call of duty game my brother bought him.
This has to be a dream, there's no way my brother's son is this based, my brother is a faggot.
a faggot with a wife ;_;

Still though he's your typical CoD baby so how his child is this based is beyond me.

[Anonymous No.2507896]

>>2507889

A lot of people are getting into retro gaming as of late. A counterculture always rises to the current culture.

[Anonymous No.2507968]

>Playing DoomRPG
>Thermonuclear event
>Run around, grab keys, deactivate the bomb
>Have bomb in inventory for three, four levels.

>Back in outpost, spend time fucking around with the various guns I've lockered during my explorations
>Accidentally hit power conduit.
>Wander around in a dead-power outpost
>Find the SHOP, with all their delicious goodies- the ones that had been hidden behind the impenetrable forcefields
>Yoink! Suddenly spring up 18 ranks and unlock a thousand new items
>Outpost doesn't take kindly to thieves in these parts, start teleporting into the shop to shoot my shit in
>Try to run to teleporter to refresh the outpost, forcefield in the way. Forcefield has some kind of UPS power supply right behind it, when I can't shoot through it.
>Happen to know about the one item that can


>Inject a one-unit invulnerability stim. Won't last long, but it'll last long enough.
>Slam down thermonuclear bomb
>Burn, motherfuckers, burn.
>Everybody dies, I power the teleporter from my suit energy, GTFO.

And that's how I blew up the UNSC, jumped up eighteen ranks, and stole tons of shit.

The fact that there weren't enough marines to fight off the demon invasion was probably my fault.

[Anonymous No.2507981]

>>2507889
>try to preach to my friend the glory of doom
"how can you even like it, it's so old and the graphics are shit"

[Anonymous No.2507982]

>>2507678
Thats rad as fuck.

[Anonymous No.2507992]

>>2507889
That's pretty cute. That kid is a rare gem for coming from that family.

[Anonymous No.2508003]

>>2507889
Did he pistol start each level?

[Anonymous No.2508082]

[Anonymous No.2508121]

Favourite BTSX maps
>E1M02: Postal Blowfish
>E1M07: Metal Mothers
>E1M12: Underground Initiations
>E1M15: Tricyclic Looper
>E1M19: Bingo Pool Hall of Blood
>E1M22: Gonna Never Have to Die
>E2M01: Shadow Port
>E2M08: A Blue Shadow
>E2M10: Eureka Signs
>E2M15: The Theory of Broken Circles
>E2M17: Steeple of Knives
>E2M22: Bite
>E2M25: Unstable Journey
>E2M26: Beneath a Festering Moon

[Anonymous No.2508126]

>>2508003
Nah. He just stuck with the strongest gun he currently had ammo for.

Usually the shotgun.

[Anonymous No.2508135]

>>2507896
it's because modern games are so shit

[Anonymous No.2508139]

>>2507889
Get a kid hooked on quality early on in life and they'll have higher standards to judge other things by. Doom may be old but it's a solid shooter that isn't afraid to have slower-paced moments or throw a lot of enemies at you at once, not to mention make you think, "Should I pick that medkit up when i'm already near full health, or those shotgun shells? Should I risk the Rocket Launcher or stick to crowd-clearing with the Chaingun and then fall back to Shotgun? Where was the last time I saw a red key door..?"

Not all kids have standards but if Call of Duty's what he's mainly been exposed to, the first step is always the hardest in transitioning to or playing other franchises, but he's already got a taste for class.

[Anonymous No.2508141]

>>2507090
5:29
Most heroic part.

[Anonymous No.2508143]

>>2508139
Luckily from what I can tell he isn't a graphics fag. He plays games for fun.

And I guess he found doom "fun" I've never heard him complain about
>Muh graphics.
once.

It's just so bizzare how such a great kid came out of my CoD baby bro's dick.
Unless he's more like my sister-in-law but she doesn't play vidya so I have no clue.

[Anonymous No.2508148]

>>2508143
Well to be fair, unless you're playing as vanilla as possible with pixelation included, Doom didn't age badly. The spritework and textures are arguably more timeless than Doom 3's stiff mitten hands and low poly heads, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.2508251]

>>2502214
>http://killscreendaily.com/articles/long-live-doom/
>shillscreen
>ever

[Anonymous No.2508271]

>>2508121
>>E1M07: Metal Mothers
>>E2M15: The Theory of Broken Circles

These are my faves. Vader sure knows how to make a fun nonlinear map. Hope to see more of him in Episode 3

[Anonymous No.2508279]

>>2504421
fuuuuuuuck

[Anonymous No.2508284]

>>2508135
Not to mention nowadays FPSs are all the same shit.

Doom was an imaginative idea, a fucking space marine descends into hell itself and kills satan.

What's the plot on most modern day shooters?

>Hurr durr de russians/germans/nazis are doing bad things jew mus keel dem in de nam of murica freedom an french fries.

[Anonymous No.2508296]

>>2508284
>and kills satan

Satan isn't even in Doom

[Anonymous No.2508301]

>>2508296
>satan isn't even in doom
nigger you what

[Anonymous No.2508314]

>>2508296
he's talking about the icon of sin

[Anonymous No.2508317]

>>2508314
That's what I thought he was anyway, just with a different name.

[Anonymous No.2508318]

>>2506825
wat wad

[Anonymous No.2508323]

>>2508314
>>2508317
I more see the IoS as one of Hell's many army generals.

[Anonymous No.2508332]

Is there a no -ullshit answer why ZDoom and Zandronum can't merge?

[Anonymous No.2508337]

>>2508332
The two are at a complete disagreement when it comes to netcode.

[Anonymous No.2508340]

>>2508337
>ZDoom

What netcode?

[Anonymous No.2508345]

>>2508340
Zdoom's coders stubbornly think their own netcode is good. That was my point.

[Anonymous No.2508353]

>>2508337
zandorum isn't perfect, right? i think i heard you can't save in multiplayer, is that still true?

[Anonymous No.2508359]

>>2506605

The instagram link isn't working anymore. Did anyone save the teaser?

[Anonymous No.2508372]

Besides webm related, what wads make you feel like you are moving?

[Anonymous No.2508378]

>>2508372
one of the early ones of TVR.wad is set in a moving train

[Anonymous No.2508379]

>>2508332
>>2508337
To clarify, ZDoom's netcode guy, Edward850, thinks peer-to-peer is the end-all be-all.

Zandronum does modern client/server/master server, adjusting ZDoom code where necessary (adding things like "clientsideonly" flags for decorative actors like the Quake explosion particles in Samsara, etc)

Merging the two would probably mean a shitload of code clashes and headaches, and needing to make all of the ZDoom functions C/S latency friendly and introduce new flags to accomodate that: basically what Z&'s doing already.

[Anonymous No.2508383]

>>2508372
>>2508378
indeed
there's another in EPIC.WAD

[Anonymous No.2508386]

>>2508372
One of the early maps in Jumpmaze, forgot which exactly though.

[Anonymous No.2508389]

>>2508332
i imagine the zdoom developers do not wish to test every new addition/feature for client/server issues. it would greatly slow down zdoom development and they likely have no interest, regardless of netcode implementation as others have mentioned.

[Anonymous No.2508403]

>>2508318
It's epic 2

[Anonymous No.2508415]

>>2507005
I always found it funny that Pcorf's boom megawads often had bonus "zdoom exclusive" maps.

2002 ADO and Whispers of Satan both feature such maps.

[Anonymous No.2508420]

>>2508284
>>2508301
>>2508314

>you kill satan in doom

don't be that kind of guy

[Anonymous No.2508425]

>>2508415
i don't think he has any interest in complevels or demos or anything like that, otherwise there wouldn't be so many different versions of 2002ado/2002ad10 which make demo playback a pain and bugs like monster teleporters that prevent 100% kills wouldn't remain broken across all the rereleases.

[Anonymous No.2508427]

>>2508284
>>2508296
>>2508301
>>2508314
>>2508317
>>2508323
>>2508420
>Everybody ignores the point of the post because of a small oversight.
Stay autistic /vr/, you fucking spergs.

[Anonymous No.2508428]

>>2508427

what's there to ignore that hasn't been discussed to death?

[Anonymous No.2508434]

>>2508427
there's no point to discuss there, just a dead horse to beat

[Anonymous No.2508437]

>>2508427

What damn point? That "every modern-era FPS is shit" (which is far from being true)?

[Anonymous No.2508447]

>>2508427
Why are you getting mad over nothing?

[Anonymous No.2508458]

>>2508428
>>2508434
>>2508437
>>2508447
>A million responses within a fucking 3 minute time frame.
Amazing. it's like fucking clockwork.

[Anonymous No.2508461]

>>2508332
>Is there a no -ullshit answer

well, first of all, what kind of "bullshit" answers were you getting?

As for the topic in hand, both sourceports can't be "merged" just like that because we're not talking about legos

[Anonymous No.2508462]

>>2508458
>3 minute time frame.

[Anonymous No.2508463]

>>2508458
Go take your autism back to /v/, please.

[Anonymous No.2508468]

>>2508458
leave

[Anonymous No.2508470]

>>2508337
>>2508340

>zdoom
>netcode

[Anonymous No.2508471]

>>2508372
The second level in DOOM Barracks Zone.

[Anonymous No.2508476]

>>2508468
No :^)

[Anonymous No.2508481]

> Yet another random number generator that depends on global mutable state and therefore unsafe to be used in multithreaded context.

> People should not get into the habit of depending on global mutable state. What if the project evolves and now going to work multithreaded? What if parts of the project are extracted to be used in another one? What if a toy project grows to be massive?

> I say this because I have investigated many crypto libraries for usage and nearly every one of them (especially openssl) have random generators that depend on global state. The attitude of not caring about correctness and thread safety is just pervasive.

-- some guy on Hacker News commenting on Doom's random number generator

[Anonymous No.2508491]

>>2508481
what?
is he comparing encryption to a simple dice roller?

[Anonymous No.2508494]

>>2507807
MLG parodies is a shit meme that hasn't been funny in three years because people started overusing the same five sound clips in every video. I have to admit I smiled at the Round Ending Kill though.

[Anonymous No.2508502]

>>2508491
it's some child trying to show off how clever he is by complaining about a lack of correctness and thread-safety in code from a computer game written four years before he was born.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9809998

[Anonymous No.2508517]

>>2508143
I've got friends my age who refuse to play any old game because the graphics are dated. I assume it's even harder to get a child who only knows the newest COD to get into something like Doom. You got lucky.

[Anonymous No.2508581]

>>2508517
I tried to get a few of my friends into Doom, and luckily, most of them were like, "damn this is fun." Then I tried to get one particular friend into Doom, and his list of complaints were like listening to dumb playtesters.

>I'm lost, I dunno where to go
Just explore man, that's the point: discovery
>I'm moving too fast and can't control where I go
Actually, the movement is precise, smooth, and accurate
>Where's the mini-map?
Press tab
>But how do I get a mini-map?
You're not supposed to have a mini-map; explore.
>I keep dying. This isn't fun.
You're supposed to move around the enemies and stay on the move.
>These graphics are terrible.
>How do I know the enemies are shooting at me?
>How do I know where they're shooting me from?
>How do I know I'm getting shot?
>Why isn't my health regenerating?

That's when I realized he was a pleb of maximum proportions and told him I was going to bed. No point in sharing fine wine with someone who guzzles it from a box.

[Anonymous No.2508596]

>>2508581
>Actually, the movement is precise, smooth, and accurate
..nah it's anything but. The slippery movement still isn't something I like despite being a lifelong fan of the game

Curiously I've not talked videogames with a codfield dudebro since back in high school, and almost everyone I bring up the subject of videogames with are really into /vr/. Recently found out one of my coworkers pretty much has the exact same taste as me and played through all the FO2/TESIII/VTMB type rpgs and knows more about romero and carmack than I do so that was pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.2508645]

What sector light mode in GZdoom do you guys use?

[Anonymous No.2508657]

>>2508645
Software lighting mode.

Everything else looks lifeless and makes the fixed light levels more apparent.

[Anonymous No.2508659]

ksutra map18 is still really really good.

play it if you like non linear exploration and a lot of monsters (but not overwhelming).

[Anonymous No.2508667]

>>2508458
>W-WOW /vr/ SO MUCH AUTISM
>what?
>LOOK AT ALL THESE RESPONSES IT'S LIKE CLOCKWORK :^) :^)
>uh okay
>:^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) :^) ::^)

I like you. You're funny.
Not for the reasons you think, though.
But that's what makes you funny.

[Anonymous No.2508679]

Can you guys tell me what the latest version of GZDoom was before it switched over to that new performance-killing version of OpenGL?

[Anonymous No.2508683]

>>2508679
1.8.10.
Which is more advanced than 1.9.0 for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2508684]

>>2508645
>>2508657
Same.
Also makes Spectres remain spooky

[Anonymous No.2508706]

So Googling has not brought me much joy. I'm looking to see if there is a sound replacement for Doom. I'm not talking about perkristian's work. I'm talking about just getting new high-quality sounds and not worrying about authenticity so much as just making sure they fit.

[Anonymous No.2508718]

>>2508706
rip them from other mods?

[Anonymous No.2508721]

>>2508706
>I'm talking about just getting new high-quality sounds and not worrying about authenticity so much as just making sure they fit.

That sounds like it would be remarkably easy for even someone who hasn't ever modded before to do, the problem is that everyone else has different ideas as to what they think "fits".

[Anonymous No.2508753]

>>2506752

[Anonymous No.2508761]

>>2507210
That's incredibly dangerous.

If you have long hair, wear it up in a net around machinery, if a machinepart like a drill or a saw catches even a little of your hair the machine can tear your entire scalp off.

[Anonymous No.2508767]

>>2508148
Yeah, if you play in even 800x640 res in OpenGL mode, the game looks pretty damn great still because frankly they put a lot of work into the graphics.

[Anonymous No.2508776]

>>2508761
i am sure the guy is aware of that and does not make a habit of the activity.

[Anonymous No.2508816]

>>2508379
What's his fascination with P2P?
Why doesn't Grafh just boot him out? He's an obstruction to development and gameplay.

[Anonymous No.2508821]

>>2508776
Maximum off-topic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiAGSDkkRHw It's from this video.
Looks like a bored construction worker having fun.

[Anonymous No.2508826]

>>2508816
>>2508379

At this point it would be better for everyone to wait for Zandro 3.0, which might be closer to be released than we think

[Anonymous No.2508840]

>>2508816
Because nobody else is willing to work with ZDoom netcode.

[Anonymous No.2508912]

>>2507889
I don't know what it is but it seems that the previous generation is so unfascinated by Doom while this one is fucking enamored by it.

>Visit nephews
>Casually mention Doom in a vidya discussion
>"Oh man Doom? I love watching my dad play that game! It's the best!"
>"Hey dad, remember Doom? That game was great"
>You mean Doom 3 right?
>"No no, the old one! We have it on our computer!"
>warm fuzzies

[Anonymous No.2508916]

>>2508826
God, I swear I'm fucking switching to Zandro once v3 is out.

Maybe then I'll join for some spots of multiplayer.

[Anonymous No.2508919]

What use is the Key Drop in DoomRPG's arena? I have four keys and there's nowhere in the outpost to use them.

[Anonymous No.2508924]

>>2508919
You're suppose to use them outside the outpost.

[Anonymous No.2508937]

>>2508924
But that doesn't work.
When you teleport back to a level all your outpost-keys are gone.

[Anonymous No.2508958]

>>2508596
>it's anything but
I was talking about movement of aiming as well as the players movement. If it is, "anything but," then I guess consoles have better movement than Doom by a huge margin.
Honestly, this is subjective since I've played games with far, far, far worse movement.

I had no idea Doom was clunky, sloppy, and inaccurate. I swear we must be playing different games; maybe different systems as well.

[Anonymous No.2508959]

>>2502214
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LMy3sCbBA

Brutal Doom v20b video showcasing some of the new upcoming features: Nazis are back, BD-ization of certain custom monsters (Plasma marines in Scythe for example) and new CVARs.

[Anonymous No.2508962]

>>2508937
I should of said "I think*", because I never really used the dropped keys.

I guess you're suppose to save the character inside the outpost?

[Anonymous No.2508974]

>>2508959
> BD-ization of certain custom monsters (Plasma marines in Scythe for example)
How in the god damn fuck is anyone going to survive Scythe 2 in Hurr Duur?

[Anonymous No.2508975]

>>2508596
The movement never felt floaty to me, it just felt like I had a lot of momentum.
Even Doom 64's slight changing of the movement throws me way off because I'm so used to the original speed.

[Anonymous No.2508992]

>latest HDoom

>still no Mastermind porn

[Anonymous No.2509003]

>>2508974
Welcome to the new "Complex Chillax"

[Anonymous No.2509008]

>>2509003
>filename
i don't get it

[Anonymous No.2509029]

>>2509008
It's based off a screenshot from the infamous Zelda CD-i game "Link: The Faces of Evil"

[Anonymous No.2509031]

>>2509029
Ah, laughing-elf-man.jpg, yes

[Anonymous No.2509078]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb2EuBBeDr0

A bit on the nose, but Doom's never been about subtly.

[Anonymous No.2509081]

>>2508959
>added a CVAR to disable shotgun testicles

el oh el. The swinging shotgun testicles looks very silly, but I don't know why people complained so much about it to be honest

[Anonymous No.2509132]

>>2509081
Because they look really unnatural.
A sling wouldn't swing like that.

[Anonymous No.2509146]

Why does this happen sometimes?

[Anonymous No.2509150]

>>2508974
looking at that vid, the plasma marines were nerfed not buffed.

[Anonymous No.2509153]

>>2509146
http://doomwiki.org/wiki/Grab

[Anonymous No.2509269]

Has there ever been a gameplay mod for Doom with a good bayonet?

[Anonymous No.2509272]

Is this canon?

[Anonymous No.2509298]

>>2502634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziodGpdaew

[Anonymous No.2509316]

>>2502634
First song that came to mind was Slayer's Hell Awaits. I always think of Doom from that song.

[Anonymous No.2509324]

>>2509272
Ever heard of cameos?
Besides, Duke wouldn't even be alive during that time period, time travel aside.

[Anonymous No.2509340]

>>2509324
Ever heard of joke posts?
Christ anon I really can't believe you took that question seriously way to ruin it.

[Anonymous No.2509350]

>>2508596
Only thing particularly clunky about Doom's movement is the hilarious wall collisions. Actually moving and dodging feels amazing. You feel fast, but just a little bit heavy.

there's nothing as silly as bouncing off of a wall behind you like there was a spring or something there instead of sliding off of it
or getting a little stuck on walls (like, not permanently stuck, just you stop moving and have to change direction to move again)
or getting a little stuck when touching impassable linedefs

actually, doom's collisions are depressing, even if you can do neat shit like wallrunning because of them

[Anonymous No.2509357]

>>2509340

[Anonymous No.2509358]

>>2509350

Jeez anon, make your mind up.


On a different note, what if Doomguy was brosephs with Jesus? I'd imagine the both of them fighting side by side in the bowels of hell.

[Anonymous No.2509364]

>>2502213
Why hasn't Doom clicked with me? I love all the other games that came after (Duke 3D and such) but anytime I try to play Doom it never clicks. I feel like a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.2509368]

>>2509364
There's a rhythm to doom. It's like ballroom dancing with shotguns and no other shooter had it really. Everything's tied into it.

All you have to do is get into that rhythm and everything clicks.

[Anonymous No.2509381]

>>2509368
>t's like ballroom dancing with shotguns
this is surprisingly accurate, thanks for the descriptor idea

[Anonymous No.2509395]

>>2509381
welcome :) I hope neo-ID get it too.

[Anonymous No.2509430]

>>2508581
yikes, that sounds awful

he seems to think modern console FPS conventions have always existed

>>2509368
>It's like ballroom dancing with shotguns and no other shooter had it really.
that's a way too apt description

>>2509395
>I hope neo-ID get it too.
god, I really do

I still keep thinking we're going to end up with a Doom 4 made mostly by people who've played 1 and 2 for less than 20 minutes, and it's going to suffer for that.
They'll all have played the game (I actually can't imagine anyone on the team having outright never played 1 or 2), but not for any extensive time.

>>2509364
Duke 3D still hasn't clicked with me. I think it's a neat game and is full of super neat little TECHNOLOGY bits (shit like spiral staircases and lighting coming through doors and slopes and I kind of want to make maps for Build even though I can do all of that shit in GZDoom), but I'm still not into it.

[Anonymous No.2509435]

>>2509364
Don't feel like a piece of shit for not liking something other people do. That's some peer expectation shit you're putting on yourself.

That said, I don't know. What of it do you feel is bringing it down for you? The thing is that most problems are solved by maps and mods. Too slow or easy? Try a harder mapset. Weapons, monsters or mechanics not doing the trick? Get a mod (Smooth Doom makes them fun to use).

Hell, if you like Duke so much you can just go get Samsara, pick Duke and play as him for a bit.

[Anonymous No.2509449]

How do I make the starting pistol in Reelism not suck?

[Anonymous No.2509458]

>>2509449
Make it recoil upward instead of downward. (Or go down and spring up.)
Make it faster.
It doesn't need to be stronger.
Give it a better sound.

[Anonymous No.2509496]

>>2509368
>>2509381
I've always found that every single 90s shooter has kind of a feel to it that makes it more than just pointing and clicking at nasty people to make them go away.

Doom feels like a waltz. You move around the floor with surprising dexterity to keep you and everyone around you in sync. I wish I could come up with something different to for Heretic and Hexen but I still keep falling back to Waltz.

Duke feels like a sockhop. There's a lot of moving around but not a lot of getting somewhere, if you get my drift. Lots of dodging and movement, but most of it is trying to keep up with crowd control while in a nice arena-like place. This is why the multiplayer is so good.

And Quake... hohohohoho quake. Quake is like a fucking ballet up in here, as several dancers hop around the stage to make the most of it while interacting in a glorious spectacle of fighting. Er, dancing. Wherever this allegory is going.

So yeah, basically 90s FPSes are like bloody, gory dancing, amongst other things. (Chess, an Escher painting...)

(No, I haven't played Unreal yet. Sorry.)

[Anonymous No.2509543]

>>2509435
Not sure. I think it's just the beginning maps are uninteresting to me. I've never beaten episode 1 and not sure how much the game changes

[Anonymous No.2509545]

>>2509496
Yeah you didn't have to talk your fellow marines through their relationship problems back then :)

[Anonymous No.2509553]

>>2509458
>make it faster

That's all it really needs. If I luck out with 2x weapon speed on the reel, the pistol is completely serviceable. Feels fine, kills things well enough. 2x current speed might be too fast, but it's more in line with what the gun should feel like.

As it is right now, it is actually awful and feels awful.

>>2509496
>(No, I haven't played Unreal yet. Sorry.)
man, I really do need to play Unreal at some point myself

I keep forgetting it exists. Hell, UT was so famous that I actually didn't even know there was a singleplayer game before it back then.

[Anonymous No.2509584]

[Anonymous No.2509596]

>>2509543
Immensely. Trust me, Episode 1 is the "training" episode, with only the weaker weapons available and the weakest monsters against you.

The variety and strength goes up as the episodes go on, and shoot straight up in Doom 2.

[Anonymous No.2509598]

>>2509596
I'll have to get through episode 1 then. I really want to read masters of doom but it feels shitty to read it when I've not finished either game

[Anonymous No.2509601]

>>2509584
What's Phase Locket?

[Anonymous No.2509603]

>>2509584
Gonna need to provide a lot more information than that, anon.
Plus I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious anyway.

[Anonymous No.2509612]

>>2509603

I was portalfreak

I was joking with him

Youre a dingus

:^)

[Anonymous No.2509613]

>>2509612
You're a dumbface

[Anonymous No.2509649]

>>2509496
I realized recently that I've played Duke Nukem a lot more than I played Doom when I was a kid, and I also realized that I like Duke Nukem's level design a lot more than anything Doom 2 has. I liked E1, but nothing else makes me feel like I'm really running around a part of a specific area; that's one thing I really, really like about Duke Nukem. A lot of the areas feel like actual areas, but it also seems that Duke used more textures than Doom did.

Really makes me wish there was more Duke WADs.

[Anonymous No.2509702]

>>2509649
It's because Duke3D had an actual "3D' world. Buildings felt natural because they had rooms above rooms like a normal building. Doom2s "buildings" feel abnormal because all they can be is rectangles with hallways carved into them.

[Anonymous No.2509703]

>>2509649
Yeah the build engine helped a lot in that regard. Even Quake looked pretty vacant compared to Duke when it came out.

But for me nothing had the sheer momentum doom has. I'm in it for the dance :p

Iv'e heard the build engine was harder to map for,
but here was that Die Hard Duke mod some guys were working on recently. Might check that out myself.

[Anonymous No.2509709]

>>2509601
It's an item from Shovel Knight. It makes you invulnerable for moments at a time.

[Anonymous No.2509714]

>>2509702
Technically D3D couldn't do true 3D or rooms over rooms either, if I remember right. But the devs were real clever about subtle teleports and transitions so that you could seamlessly go between different floors of buildings and areas without realizing it unless you're paying attention. Doom didn't even try techniques like that, although clever mappers probably have recreated some of the tricks.

[Anonymous No.2509717]

>>2509714
Jeeze, I knew the devs pulled a lot of sneaky shit with the Build engine, but this is pretty impressive.

[Anonymous No.2509718]

>>2507968
Oh, huh. Turns out that there's a different way to loot the outpost.

You just need to fight and wait and fight some more until the UPS runs out of power.

[Anonymous No.2509728]

>>2502213
How the fuck do I run project brutality?

[Anonymous No.2509731]

>>2509728
Update your GZDoom first, check the SVNs. Second, Project Brutality runs on its own so that by itself (or with whatever maps and other things you may want to try it with) after the update.

[Anonymous No.2509740]

>>2509731
Link me to the update.

I didn't even know Gzdoom was updated. Then again i'm a retard.

[Anonymous No.2509748]

>>2509731
>>2509740

I have version 1.8.2
What version do I need? Where can I get it? osanet only goes to 1.8.2

[Anonymous No.2509752]

[Anonymous No.2509757]

Does anyone know where I can find the Doom RPG? I can find the Doom II RPG but not the first one. I'm not talking about some conversion wad or whatever, I mean a rom of the phone game.

[Anonymous No.2509760]

>>2509748
Oelecker's site isn't updated anymore. Everything is through Github now.

But most people who use Windows don't compile stuff, so you can get the latest builds here: http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

[Anonymous No.2509761]

>>2509752
I don't get it. Is this making fun of the Doom 4 screenshot edits?

[Anonymous No.2509767]

>>2509748
Check the devbuilds. http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

Newest is past 2.1.11xx

[Anonymous No.2509772]

>>2509748
>>2509740
SVN version, not release.
http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/gzdoom/

[Anonymous No.2509835]

Why is it that MAP08 and MAP09 bring my UV runs to a screeching halt?

[Anonymous No.2509865]

PROJECT BRUTALITY IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN BRUTAL DOOM HOLY SHIT

Why does anyone even play BD anymore?

I bet mark h8s project brutality.

[Anonymous No.2509869]

>>2509835
08 isn't that bad. I just played it on UV myself, albeit not on a pistol start, and the only room I took damage on was the Red Key room that sics two Barons and a bunch of Imps on you. The Cyberdemon/Baron room is basically 'sit back and wait for things to resolve themselves before grabbing the Invulnerability and blowing up what's left'.

09 on the other hand is not a fun map for me to say the least.

[Anonymous No.2509872]

Hey guys. Really enjoying the Complex Doom wad. Looking for some more levels to burn through. I'll take fun levels over insanely difficult any day. Wads I've already thoroughly enjoyed: DTWID, Plutonia 2, Vae Victus.

[Anonymous No.2509878]

>>2509869
agreed

[Anonymous No.2509890]

>>2509835
>>2509869
The Pit has a LOT of unnecessary sections that can be mistaken for being required.

[Anonymous No.2509895]

>>2509869
I've struggled more for ammo on MAP10 than any other Doom map or even wad.
That music tho.

[Sergeant_Mark_IV No.2509896]

>>2509865
They're only copying me.

They do not possess my incredible and unbeatable talent, dexterity, and penis size.

They are nothing but charlatans.

[Anonymous No.2509908]

>>2509865
My biggest problems with Project Brutality, besides some of the assets clashing big time, are taking out the auto-fire for the Assault Rifle aim, and the goddamn ceiling-crawling Imps. I don't mind the idea, but I don't know how many times it seems like I get ambushed by fireball-slinging Imps from the ceiling that suddenly appear infront of me because they don't give a shit for ceiling height differences unless a window's in the way.

[Anonymous No.2509954]

>>2509430
Yeah they should have hired some of the bigger names from the community as consultants.Somebody from BTSX maybe.

You know, people who actually play the damn thing. They seem to be focusing on the smaller details.

[Anonymous No.2509997]

oh god oh god oh god oh god

Was not a good idea to go with a Suicidal Reinforcement mission why did I even do this I have like zero stat resists and if something takes off my damage aug I'm useless.

[Anonymous No.2510007]

>>2509997
I don't know why but those flying fatsos with jets for legs always make me laugh.

[Anonymous No.2510027]

>>2509954
>Yeah they should have hired some of the bigger names from the community as consultants.Somebody from BTSX maybe.

Honestly, I'm more excited for BTSX E3 than I am for Doom 4.

[Anonymous No.2510029]

>>2509997
I killed them! All of them!

With lots of help from the floaty guy above the holoflag. I completely forgot about using him, but apparently he can one-shot certain baddies. Mostly the hellstorm elementals, which is important, because those guys make instant-death singularities. Even if you have invulnerability spheres/charges/stims.

[Anonymous No.2510034]

>>2510007
Yeah, Yholl doesn't like the Volacubus and wants a replacement for it.

[Anonymous No.2510048]

>>2510027
I hear you. Just have to wait and see I guess.

[Anonymous No.2510056]

>>2510029
Yeah, fuck hellstorm elementals. I recently took a suicide level mission to kill a bunch of the fuckers, they'd never given me any trouble before, so I thought it'd be easy.
I did not know these missions make the target enemy spawn more often. Nor did I know hellstorm elementals can spawn in place of cacos.

The map I was on had like 15 caco spawns in an outdoor area with no cover and thin walkways.. Falling off here means death, and just before this was a one way elevator, so no retreating to better terrain.
I open the door and god damn 15 fucking green death spewing meatballs rape me over and over and over.

[Anonymous No.2510058]

>>2510056
Ouch. I'd have thrown together a chrono stim for a bit.

I really need to use stims more.

[Anonymous No.2510061]

>>2510058
I just discovered how hilariously broken stims are after this mission. I used the base's stim machine for the first time because I wanted a little boost to help assassinate a nightmare cyberdemon. It made me a god for an hour.

But for those hellstorm elementals, I pulled out my nano-SSG, sat myself behind the tiny corner which was my only cover, and blasted them as they came DoomRL style. Still died like 10 times.

[Anonymous No.2510063]

>>2510061
For fun, I put 100 stim of every stat, then 100 purifier and 100 potency vials into the medbay stim machine.

I ended up with 500 to every stat. For seven and a half hours.

Then I loaded, because that felt too unfair.

[Anonymous No.2510095]

I didn't realize DoomRPG added missions and hubs and shit like that. I thought it was just like slapping some WoC style stats and some skills.

Well fuck me. I've been missing out.

[Anonymous No.2510098]

>>2510095
Yeah, it adds a single hub, in which you can buy items, accept missions, fight in the arena, drop a thermonuclear bomb, refill your health/energy/cure status effects (helpful when some dickass gives you Curse V for two fucking hours), and some other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting.

[Anonymous No.2510110]

>>2510098
You can also go to medbay and stim yourself up. A lot. Without need for syringes.

You can also do a heist. If by heist, you mean 'blow up the power, steal the goodies behind the forcefield, and kill good guys until the emergency forcefield goes away

[Anonymous No.2510160]

>Playing Project Brutality.
>Random demon [Who I can't fucking find] says "I will eat your soul!"
>Instinctively press taunt button as if in response.
>Doom guy says "FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!"
I love it when the taunts are coincidentally relevant.

[Ven No.2510169]

Hello I am the new school girl, rape me pls.

[Anonymous No.2510171]

>>2510098
Level 2 to healing gets rid of status effects. Costs 200 EP, though.

[Anonymous No.2510172]

>>2510095

Yeah, DoomRPG has a whole fuckton of content.
Most of which you'll never see.

[Anonymous No.2510173]

>>2510169
wrong thread..?

[Anonymous No.2510176]

>>2509357
np bb x

[Anonymous No.2510178]

>>2509364
try plutonia from final doom. doom 1&2 are boring and way too easy in 2015. plutonia is not only more challenging but also has way better level design.

[Anonymous No.2510185]

>>2509702

"All they can be is rectangles"

Have you even played Doom. Have you, or did you just come in here to say dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.2510190]

>>2510178
>doom 1&2 are boring and way too easy in 2015.
What do you mean?

[Anonymous No.2510192]

>>2509364
>>2510178
I'd also recommend Alien Vendetta. Plutonia and AV are basically the codifiers of modern doom mapping standards.

[Anonymous No.2510197]

What's the best shield combination? Right now I have two different loadouts. One that's all capacity, minimizing charge and maximizing Delay. Then giving it H0W-EV3N, so instead it's a huge charge, with barely any delay, and up to 4000 capacity.

Then for the other loadout, it's one with minimum delay, the largest charge possible, and E1N-T31, so that it stops time every time I take damage.

[Anonymous No.2510202]

>>2510190
Doom 1 and 2's base levels are not representative of modern mapping standards in the doom community.

[Anonymous No.2510257]

>>2510202
>modern mapping standards
>standard

I prefer the term "style".

[Anonymous No.2510263]

>>2510257
Tell that to the mapping community.

[Anonymous No.2510284]

>>2510190
Not him, but I don't disagree. They're mostly (looking at you, E4M2) a breeze to anyone adept at 90s shooters. The difficulty bar is pretty low for most part and moderate by the ends of them. This can bore people expecting a challenge.

This doesn't make them uninteresting for a first playthrough, just not as adrenaline-pumping. Some maps like Containment Area and Deimos Labs demonstrate atmosphere building over in-your-face hordes.

AV and Plutonia, like others have said, are great examples of challenging, faster paced and fun mapsets.

If all else fails, play it with -fast.

[Anonymous No.2510292]

>Freedoom has the shitty blue BFG from the movie.
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.2510305]

>>2510292
fun fact: the blue skag projectile predates the movie by three years or so.

https://github.com/freedoom/freedoom/blob/v0.5/ChangeLog#L325

on the other hand, given what freedoomguy's face is based on, that's a surprising thing for you to complain about.

[Anonymous No.2510309]

What happened to that guy who was making the Doom Adventure Game engine?

[Anonymous No.2510334]

>>2510197
What

[Anonymous No.2510338]

>>2510292
The sprites are getting updated. For example, the monsters are going to look GOOD. The Arch-vile replacement looks fucking bad ass, and I want him in every game.

[Anonymous No.2510419]

>>2510185
I haven't played Doom2 in a while, but most of the skyscraper buildings that I can remember were just giant rectangular blocks with very bland looking exteriors. I'm probably wrong on that, but that goes to show how little of an impression the city levels left on me.

[Anonymous No.2510445]

>>2510419
nah

[Anonymous No.2510523]

>>2510292
>the movie
wut?
The Skulltag BFG10k is based on the Doom movie BFG, but the one in Freedoom is nothing like it.

[Anonymous No.2510549]

What's the comfiest wad you guys have played?
For me, it's Golden Souls 1.

[Anonymous No.2510568]

>>2510549
Doom 1 The Way Id Did. Maybe i'm confusing Comfy with just pure enjoyment, but man, DTWID felt like pure Doom Extract.

[Anonymous No.2510575]

>>2510445
I've completly forgotten about that map. I guess it's time that I replay Doom2.

[Anonymous No.2510580]

>>2510549
Comfy Doom, obviously.

[Anonymous No.2510587]

>>2510549
I replayed it recently, and while I love the idea of it, the enemies are mostly all very tedious.

You end up spending way more time shooting at one enemy than what you really should have to.

[Anonymous No.2510601]

>>2510445
>downtown
>actually looking anything like a downtown

As apart of the initial convo, Doom still has bland levels in comparison to Duke Nukem. Duke's city levels actually look like a city; not just blocks of different textures.

[Anonymous No.2510609]

>>2510338
>Fuck this, I'm out

[Anonymous No.2510621]

Is there a way to take reloading out of Brutal Doom's modern setting?

[Anonymous No.2510639]

>>2510549
Comfy Doom.

[Anonymous No.2510650]

>>2510338
That's pretty fucking badass. Much better then that shoddey red skeleton that jumps around and has crap sprite setoffs. I do hope they keep the Revenant replacements tough, those are cool as fuck.

[Anonymous No.2510654]

>>2510621
Yes, editing the Decorate yourself

[Anonymous No.2510660]

>>2510549
i used to go through 2001-e1.wad on lazy sunday afternoons

[Anonymous No.2510667]

>>2510650
Last I checked, he was still experimenting with the Revenant-goblin.

[Anonymous No.2510679]

Anyone know of any good wads to play co op on?

[Anonymous No.2510687]

>>2510679
I think Epic and Epic 2 would work well.

[Anonymous No.2510696]

Greetings from Anaheim doomguys!

Now time to get back out there and re-experience Hell on Earth, damn it is hot.

[Anonymous No.2510701]

>>2510334
DoomRPG.

[Anonymous No.2510704]

>>2510419
>>2510445
>>2510601
>the city levels r bad hurr hurr
See there's a reason they didn't exist in Doom 1: They just plain aren't fun unless you can zoom around the vertical axis with any sort of alacrity. Dukes got jumps and jetpacks to deal with that. There's a reason Doom has had an abstract level design philosophy ever since Romero first tried it out.

[Anonymous No.2510725]

>>2510621
why don't you just play with the classic setting? Modern setting without reloads would be the same thing.

[Anonymous No.2510739]

>>2510725

Classic setting is a weird, weird anomaly.
It's not actually anywhere close to vanilla, but at the same time it's way too different from the actual Modern setting.

It's trying to appeal to two niches and failing at both.

[Anonymous No.2510768]

NEW THREAD

>>2510765
>>2510765
>>2510765

[Anonymous No.2511016]

>>2507981
I know how you feel
>mfw the same happened to me

[Anonymous No.2512519]

I'm playing the latest DoomRPG. Is there anyway to disable the way stat upgrades fly past the screen? It's distracting enough to make the mod virtually unplayable.

[Anonymous No.2512519,1]

>>2509872
Complex Heretic is a thing now.