ITT: Consoles you believe emulation could/would never be able to adequately do justice and require physical interaction with the hardware for the full experience.

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Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:28:13 2015 No.2483163 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: Consoles you believe emulation could/would never be able to adequately do justice and require physical interaction with the hardware for the full experience.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:40:29 2015 No.2483179

Hooo boy. This thread won't end well.

I rarely emulate (especially for playing a game seriously), but I'd go with handhelds. There's nothing quite like popping a game in to an original GameBoy, turning on a light, and staring and that glorious yellow-green dot matrix screen.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:42:45 2015 No.2483184 [DELETED]

Classic PC games, specifically the early CGA stuff from 82-85. Later games on DOSBox are pretty much indistinguishable from the real hardware, but playing Burgertime on a real IBM XT with the CGA composite output is sometime emulators don't do justice to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:42:49 2015 No.2483186 All of them

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:45:55 2015 No.2483190 [DELETED]

Classic PC games, specifically the early CGA stuff from 82-85. Later games on DOSBox are pretty much indistinguishable from the real hardware, but playing Burgertime on a real IBM XT with the CGA composite output is something emulators don't do justice to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:47:08 2015 No.2483193 File: 41 KB, 300x300, virtual-boy-wario-land..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Virtual Boy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 03:54:20 2015 No.2483201 >>2483190 >console Who says you will never get the same results? Why would you play that version of Burgertime in the first place?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 04:04:03 2015 No.2483208 >>2483193 Hahah, With emulation you don't get the eye pain.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 04:05:18 2015 No.2483210 >>2483201 >Why would you play that version of Burgertime in the first place? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dNu4tjbNRg It's about as good as any other port of the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 04:05:52 2015 No.2483212 >>2483208 Hahaha XD

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 04:11:25 2015 No.2483220 >>2483210 Come on, nigger. There's no reason to play those inferior home versions of classic arcade games anymore when you can just play the real thing on MAME.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 05:18:45 2015 No.2483287 >>2483220 Nostalgia, maybe?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 05:21:21 2015 No.2483295 >>2483163 Is that what you tell yourself to justify throwing money out of the window?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 05:22:19 2015 No.2483296 File: 56 KB, 579x510, hi-sat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sega Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 05:22:27 2015 No.2483297 >>2483163 I can't seem to get the audio working with zsnes, just some awful cacophony of distorted shite

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 05:58:35 2015 No.2483334 >>2483297 Use RetroArch/bsnes There's a 100% accurate emulator for the SNES, and it's the only one worth using.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:01:00 2015 No.2483337 >>2483334 Thanks mate

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:02:16 2015 No.2483338 >>2483337 Just make sure you select 'bsnes - accuracy'

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:02:53 2015 No.2483339

>>2483193
If VR headsets become a thing and I hope they don't at this juncture. Then virtual boy emulation will be spot on.
I kind of want them to come out and hopefully it's not last attempt before people say shit we have all the problems solved pretty much and it still didn't sell. But I don't want facebook in on that shit and would rather the whole thing die.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:14:24 2015 No.2483346 >>2483338 There is one game that needs accuracy, for the rest balance is fine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:49:16 2015 No.2483385 File: 19 KB, 480x360, Burgertime composite mode.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2483201 Actually the composite mode isn't supported by DOSBox so you can't get anything but pink/white/aqua without the real hardware.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:56:43 2015 No.2483391 >>2483385 And you think it stay that way forever? And that there are no other emulators for the system either? Can't you even run DOSbox on a system with RGBi out?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 06:59:31 2015 No.2483392 File: 13 KB, 480x359, fgfp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2483391 >Can't you even run DOSbox on a system with RGBi out?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:02:21 2015 No.2483395 >>2483392 I think he means "Can you use a video card with a composite output to run the game and display it on a TV"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:05:02 2015 No.2483396 >>2483395 That may have been how many people used it because RGBi monitors were never particularly common but you should be able to get an old 386 or maybe 486 system with a CGA card.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:08:52 2015 No.2483397 File: 3 KB, 320x200, 2263-burgertime-pc-booter-screenshot-level-2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2483396 >>2483391 Uh, dude, this is how the game looks on RGB displays.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:10:06 2015 No.2483398 Vectrex obviously

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:10:20 2015 No.2483401 >>2483397 How the developers intended it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:12:54 2015 No.2483403 >>2483401 Well no actually the game was set up to display nice colors if you had the video card connected to a TV. In fact this is one of the earliest games made for the IBM PC (1982) and IBM didn't even have a RGB monitor available yet.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:16:49 2015 No.2483404 [DELETED]

>>2483395
>I think he means "Can you use a video card with a composite output to run the game and display it on a TV"

Yes but you won't get the intended color palette because those things just output a standard NTSC signal and not the hax one that CGA cards generate.

Under standard NTSC, the color burst phase flips 180 degrees every scanline, but the Apple II and CGA cards are set up so the phase stays constant from line to line. Because the luminance is twice the resolution of the chroma, the latter "bleeds" into the adjacent pixel space allowing you to produce 16 colors via artifacting.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:17:48 2015 No.2483406

Any Nintendo DS/3DS games that actually utilizes the touch pad. It simply doesn't translate well to emulation lol.

Also I have a question for you folks, that's not super off topic:

Basically, why don't you guys just emulate? What are the actual pros from playing games on their native systems beyond nostalgia?

A really low-key retro game store just opened within walking distance from my home, and I've been thinking about getting some of the classics back (NES with SMB3/LoZ, etc; Genesis with Sonic 1-3/S+K, etc., I mean I could literally get almost any retro console from the 2600 to the the Saturn lol, and all the most popular games for those systems) but I just can't find justification since I can just emulate those games for free on my computer.

I mean it'd be cool to own the actual games and systems again, but idk. I just can't convince myself to make a purchase.

Convince me, please... Or atleast let me know why you personally don't emulate.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:23:15 2015 No.2483414 The IBM port of Jungle Hunt doesn't work on DOSBox either or anything but the real original hardware because it uses some very timing-sensitive scanline tricks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:26:07 2015 No.2483415 >>2483404 How come you can use color artifacting in Apple ][ and Atari 8bit emulators?

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:30:08 2015 No.2483419 [DELETED]

>>2483415
The artifacting they use is simpler because less colors are generated by those computers and they also have no chroma, just luminance+color burst. DOSBox does support the 640x200 mode composite graphics because they work just like the Apple II, but not the 320x200 version which has luminance+chroma+color burst.

I think the reason is that the devs are lazy and nobody could seem to figure out the exact color values the emulator should be displaying. Besides, artifacting is the only way the Apple II can display color so getting it correct is essential for emulation of that system, but PCs support RGB monitors so it's not absolutely essential to support.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:31:09 2015 No.2483420 >>2483414 If higan can do that for Air Strike Patrol then it should be possible for others.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:35:46 2015 No.2483421 >>2483419 Even worse, the composite colors are different on the PCjr/Tandy 1000 and clone CGA cards. So trying to emulate this feature was an impossible clusterfuck that nobody wanted to bother with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 07:43:49 2015 No.2483425 Every single one if you're not a pleb.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 08:09:02 2015 No.2483442 Pinball

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 09:43:25 2015 No.2483523 >>2483398 About the only thing that comes to mind

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 09:46:14 2015 No.2483526 >>2483523 >>2483398 The only thing hindering Vectrex emulation is the lack of vector displays and maybe the overlays.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:29:56 2015 No.2483573 >>2483442 The Pinball Arcade is still great though tbf

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:38:53 2015 No.2483587 Sega CD. Popping in the disc and hearing it run just isn't the same on an emulator.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:40:22 2015 No.2483593 >>2483587 Why aren't you hearing your computer run the disc?

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:41:50 2015 No.2483594

The Nintendo 64. Used to own the console back in the day. Nowadays the emulation pretty much sucks, I've seen plebs playing N64 games with the goddamn keyboard. I play with a control pad and the N64 button set don't translate well into it. Nothing like holding the real control. If we are talking about SNES, Genesis or the GameBoy titles, yeah, i've been emulating them since the late 90's on windows pc and feel no shame. Especially the RPGs and Japanes titles. Now I play the retro games on my PSP and sometimes plug the pad on the computer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 10:58:16 2015 No.2483605 >>2483406 Stop with the lols

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:02:43 2015 No.2483612 >>2483605 When people lol like that on the internet and especially on 4chan, just replace the lol with "please accept me" or "do you approve, master?". It always works

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:03:48 2015 No.2483615 >>2483612 Maybe 5 years ago, now you can replace it with "I'm a huge faggot"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 11:04:49 2015 No.2483616 >>2483186 >>2483425

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:45:51 2015 No.2484468 >>2483605 Because using "Lol" twice in a large paragraph is overkill right? Also thanks for not answering my question whatsoever. Dick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:48:40 2015 No.2484470 I could emulate a Genesis easily. But I decided to buy one today and I'm much happier with the decision. Costly or not treasure hunting for games is pretty fun.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 19:57:47 2015 No.2484494

>>2483179
yeah man nothing quite like terrible hardware thats impossible to see and has ridiculous amounts of motion blur. thats all integral to the experience and thats why they changed it when they upgraded the hardware

>>2483193
you could get the same result on like an occulus rift or something

>>2483398
at high enough resolutions it doesnt really matter

>>2483406
not vr, but if someone figured out a way to connect a wii u gamepad to a computer you could get the same effect

>>2483587
asinine and stupid

>>2483594
the thread says "Consoles you believe emulation COULD/would never be able to adequately do justice," nothing is stopping anyone from making a better n64 emulator than time and poor documentation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 20:20:33 2015 No.2484537 >>2484468 >is overkill right? Yes >[buttmad response] Go back to your reddit/tumblr hugbox I emulate (on PS3 or Wii) and can't see the reason except for N64, but that's just because 64 emulation isn't the best

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:19:35 2015 No.2484632

>>2483163
Given enough time for an emulator to be developed and hardware to advance to be powerful enough any system can be emulated well enough for basic game play. But there are certain things you can't emulate such as accessories and some of these are vital to the full experience. You can use whatever filters you want but it won't put a 2600 paddle in your hand.
The term "adequately" is subjective and the sad fact is that when it comes to gaming the largest factor in evaluating it personally is how poor you are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 21:30:03 2015 No.2484650 I think given certain circumstances, emulation can be a better experience than playing them on original hardware.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:38:04 2015 No.2484898

>>2484537
I'm not mad, (I don't know how you could construe me as having posted a "buttmad response" because I called you a dick and called you out for being a total dick...

I just think you're kind of an asshole considering you read my post, and that's all you could focus on. You couldn't bother to actually answer my question, but instead you could take the time to be an asshole to a random person asking for help.

That's the kind of person I perceive you to be. I'm not mad about it. If anything it makes me sad for the both of us, because unhelpful, mean, trollish and generally stupid douchebags are becoming more and more common, and it's fucking depressing.

And to think, all I asked for was a good reasoning for NOT emulating...

>>2484470

Can you honestly explain to me WHY you're happier with your decision?

I've been debating on whether or not to purchase a Genesis (and maybe an NES) for myself, but I can't really justify it because I can emulate the games easily, and the only real "pro" to buying the consoles I can come up with is:

1. Nostalgia
2. Original Controllers

I have a fucking gold-mine of retro games a block from my house, but I can't bring myself to commit! I need guidance! Someone, anyone, help...

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:44:45 2015 No.2484909

>>2483163
>would never be able to
I actually can't think of one, and I feel like most responses to this thread are interpreting it incorrectly. This is about retro hardware that can never be emulated with modern hardware, and I can't think of any retro hardware that's unique or obscure enough. I think proper CGA emulation will happen at some point, and it's definitely possible. VR headsets will do the Virtual Boy. The Saturn, N64 and Dreamcast just have poor emulators. They will be emulated properly some day. Even vector displays will be able to be done faithfully with high-DPI displays.

Maybe lightguns? Lightguns seem to be a technology that has just disappeared, since they rely on SD CRTs, which are also dead. I don't think using, say, a Wii remote as a light gun does them justice at all, since they're not particularly accurate.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:48:04 2015 No.2484912

I'm not aware of any Dreamcast or NGPC emulators that support the link functionality between those two systems, let alone DC emulators with VMU support

>>2483179
I was thinking GB/GBA as well primarily because I'm not aware of any emulators supporting even jury-rigged forms of the cart features fond on Kirby Tilt n' Tumble or Boktai

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:48:32 2015 No.2484913

>>2484898
>Original Controllers
This one doesn't even count because you can buy adapters to connect the original controller to your PC. There are even people who make adapters for the Wii, so you can use the original controller with a Wii emulator that does genuine 240p output. For popular 3rd and 4th gen consoles, where emulation is almost perfect, nostalgia is the only benefit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:50:06 2015 No.2484915 >>2484909 >Maybe lightguns? Lightguns seem to be a technology that has just disappeared, since they rely on SD CRTs, which are also dead They died because stupid people like you quit buying them. No demand=no product.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:51:16 2015 No.2484918 >>2484915 Hey, I don't even have room in my house to set up the CRT I already own.

Anonymous Sat Jun 20 23:53:44 2015 No.2484921

>>2484912
IIRC there are Android emulators that can use the phone's accelerometers for tilt sensors. Last I heard, they won't particularly faithful to the original experience though, probably due to being calibrated by people who don't own the original carts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:41:39 2015 No.2484994 The fuck? Why are a bunch of posts just deleted now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:54:44 2015 No.2485012 >>2484994 Because that guy got apparently banned again. Next time you see somebody talking about XT, you can assume he's a ban evader.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:55:56 2015 No.2485014 >>2485012 How the fuck can you be banned for completely on topic posts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:57:22 2015 No.2485016 >>2484994 IDK. Maybe the janitor doesn't like certain retro game platforms.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:58:02 2015 No.2485017 >>2485014 I don't know what he got banned for but it was apparently enough to warrant deleting all of his posts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 00:59:46 2015 No.2485018 >>2485017 >deleting totally on topic posts >justified

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:01:02 2015 No.2485021 >>2485018 See >>2485016

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:02:20 2015 No.2485026 >>2485021 So basically you're saying the janitor just deletes on topic posts about video games he doesn't like.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:02:59 2015 No.2485029 >>2485018 The staff essentially has two options when banning somebody, either delete the offending post or delete everything. Chances are he made more than one offending post so the practical way to deal with it is to delete everything.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:03:47 2015 No.2485030

>>2484898
>I'm not mad, (I don't know how you could construe me as [blah blah blah]
Anon, I'm not the same guy you've been talking to. My only response to you was the one where I put my "actual" reply in spoilers

There is more than one person who thinks you're a little bitch. You didn't call me a dick, you called some other anon a dick, that anon just has the same (correct) opinion about you as I do

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:06:22 2015 No.2485036 >>2485029 But there were no off-topic posts in this thread, so why delete them?

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:07:59 2015 No.2485039 [DELETED]

>>2485036
You in charge of reading comprehension.jpg

The offending posts(s) were probably even on some other board and these just got accidentally taken with them because the mods are lazy and find it easier to just do a global post wipe than selectively delete stuff.

Also >>2485012 said the guy was a ban evader, but there's no way of knowing this anyway

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:08:13 2015 No.2485040 >>2485036 It's site wide.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:12:32 2015 No.2485045 >>2485040 Actually a mod can either just wipe posts from one board or the whole site.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 01:14:43 2015 No.2485048 >>2485045 What if he was over on /b/ and posted CP? We don't know.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:05:32 2015 No.2485592

>>2484909
OP here. Perhaps I worded it ambiguously or incorrectly. I more meant which consoles can you think of, that, when emulated, would not produce a sufficiently similar experience as opposed to setting everything up physically.

The NES, SNES, Genesis, Master System, and consoles surrounding that era lose little in the way of enjoyment or uniqueness in play when emulated, with the benefit of having cartridges and original controllers (which has been mentioned numerous times to be easily available even without original hardware) being more minor enhancements rather than essential to playing how the developers intended you to feel.

While still minor in the grand scheme, I think the VMU is an example of a unique feature that you wouldn't be able to reliably replicate while giving you a richer idea of what the platform's about and how Sega designed the system for the player.

Hopefully I'm articulating the thought a little better now, but I don't have much fairh in my wordsmithing or prose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:06:39 2015 No.2485593 >>2485592 *faith. Fucking mobile.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:12:24 2015 No.2485595 >>2483186 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 10:57:08 2015 No.2485646 >>2483186 This

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 21:44:52 2015 No.2486778 >>2485030 That only proves my point that there are more and more mean, unhelpful, trollish dickheads on the internet these days. So yeah, have a good day sir.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:01:04 2015 No.2486810

>>2484913
Also thanks man. Considering I didn't expect so many assholes on this forum (even though I guess I should have), I appreciate an actual answer, even if it's not quite the answer I was hoping for.

Tbh I completely forgot about controller adapters, and I forgot about USB versions of retro console controllers as well. Both of those options eliminate that bonus, so I guess it really is all about nostalgia.

And tbh, I don't give a shit about nostalgia. As much as I'd like to have an original Genesis or an NES, just to have one, that isn't a good enough reason for me.

Thanks for the help man. I really do appreciate it.

Since this is probably my last post ever in this place:

To the rest of you who were total bastards to a person who simply wanted help:

Fuck you guys.

You might indulge your superiority complexes by pointing out flaws in others, but the fact is, no one is without flaws, and I'm betting that considering you have to do something like that to people (especially people asking for your help), just to make you feel better about yourselves, you guys have tons of them.

So maybe next time some random person asks for advice, you could just give them the advice or just ignore them completely, instead of being pricks for no other reason but to be a prick. Maybe THAT will make you feel better about yourself instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:03:08 2015 No.2486815 Wii U and DS. Got their gimmicky shit cause nintendo is fucking too retarded to use regular controls

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:03:44 2015 No.2486817 Something like a gameboy I guess? The point of it was you could take it to the beach with you or whatever, if you play it with an emulator it would seem really mediocre(unless you emulate it on a psp or other handheld thing).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:08:12 2015 No.2486828 File: 189 KB, 717x880, FviuO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2486810 >expecting people on an anonymous board to behave like true gentlemen

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:39:46 2015 No.2486879 >>2486810 I answered your question while also telling you to go back to reddit and you called me "kind of an asshole" >>2484537 for reference. I am not the other anon who said "Stop with the lols" So you tell me, which one of us is the asshole?

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:43:45 2015 No.2486885

>>2486810
>Considering I didn't expect so many assholes on this forum (even though I guess I should have)
Here's how 4chan works: you either grow a thick skin and get used to people giving you advice while calling you a retard/faggot and the like, or you leave. And this place is much, much less worse than other boards.

Anonymous Sun Jun 21 22:46:09 2015 No.2486889

The Boktai games are the only thing I can think of off the top of my head, but they aren't retro anyway.

Also for the dude trying to justify that every game is exactly the same on an emulator, I think a lot of the experience for people who collect is holding the physical copy of the game and putting in a console. To me, there isn't as much value to a game that exists soley as software. It's just different strokes for different folks

>>	Boco !sCZ24qY6KY Sun Jun 21 23:06:15 2015 No.2486928 Not quite the same, but every port of Primal Rage is based on a partially censored version of the arcade game. None of the developers are interested in unlocking it, assuming they can even be tracked down these days.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 21 23:22:12 2015 No.2486965 >require physical interaction with the hardware for the full experience Pretty much anything with a vector display.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 02:08:29 2015 No.2487280 >>2486889 You can emulate with legitimate copies and play pirated games on old hardware.

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 03:25:50 2015 No.2487329

>>2486885
>Here's how 4chan works: you either grow a thick neckbeard and get used to people giving you advice while calling you a retard/faggot and the like, or you leave. And this place is much, much less worse than other boards.

There. I corrected that for you anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:36:06 2015 No.2487406 >>2483179 >but I'd go with handhelds Psp emu removes all shitty in game slowdown, can increase internal resolution and just generally look 10x better on fullscreen pc with a controller of your choice that isn't the shitty psp dpad.

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:38:21 2015 No.2487407

>>2483573
>The Pinball Arcade is still great though tbf
No it isn't its fucking abysmal, 3d from 1998, ball physics are terrible, flipper physics are terrible. Pro pinball is the only option for anyone looking for the closest to real experience and visual pinball 10.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:40:17 2015 No.2487414 >>2483163 The one thing emulation generally doesn't compete with hardware on is it tends to have more input lag. How important that is depends on you i guess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 04:41:13 2015 No.2487418 >>2487414 Some games like Punch Out are literally impossible without a real CRT display.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 05:13:04 2015 No.2487454 >>2487418 no its not

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 05:24:21 2015 No.2487464 >>2487454 Actually it is. Input lag on LCDs makes it physically impossible to defeat Mike Tyson.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 05:34:22 2015 No.2487476 >>2483163 most of them. Emulation just doesn't give the same feel. I mean, some times, when you put the cartridge in, the world seems to be a great place. With emulation it's like...meh, big deal.

Anonymous Mon Jun 22 11:14:30 2015 No.2487808

>>2487464
>physically impossible
No. You just aren't good at that game. The only time such short lag becomes an insurmountable obstacle is when you're playing against a skilled opponent that has less lag and knows how to exploit it. Otherwise you simply input your moves a bit early and achieve exactly the same results.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 11:34:02 2015 No.2487857 >>2483295 You're in /vr/. Why do you consider playing retro systems a waste of money?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 20:57:54 2015 No.2488949 >>2487857 Not him, but I like the games, not necessarily the systems

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:12:35 2015 No.2489071 >>2488949 How is that possible without being a savesumming emufag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:54:26 2015 No.2489132 >>2489071 >I like the actors, not necessarily the movie >I like the food, not necessarily the ambient >I like the cereal not necessarily the cereal box

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 22 22:55:29 2015 No.2489135 >>2483186 qft

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:12:23 2015 No.2489358
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Even after trying a handful of emulators on a handful of systems on a handful of CRTs with a handful of different scan modes, I can't quite seem to get Atari 2600 to look or sound right. Very close, but not quite what muh nostalgias demand. It's like ending up with a handful of Sixlets when all you want is a handful of M&Ms.

PS: handful

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:18:54 2015 No.2489368 >>2483339 Hell, with vr proper, vb emulation would exceed the original experience. No neck ache from holding your head against the device, you could even alter the games to play in color with enough work

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:23:38 2015 No.2489372 >>2483186 Not true. Cdi ended up using the same Gravis pc pad I use to this day for emulation. The pad with the screw in stick for the dpad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 00:24:57 2015 No.2489376 >>2487329 >muh sensitive fee fees

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 01:07:50 2015 No.2489460 >>2486810 Alright man, fuck you too. Don't come back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 01:10:15 2015 No.2489464 >>2489132 >doesn't answer the question >because it's already been answered

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 02:27:20 2015 No.2489578 >>2489464 I like the systems, not necessarily the games.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 02:44:47 2015 No.2489605 >>2483163 N64 and Saturn.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 03:14:41 2015 No.2489636 >>2487857 In a perfect world I would be able to play games on all of the obscure systems that I wanted, but at the same time there are so many other things that I could be spending money on. Things that people wouldn't look down on me for purchasing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 03:36:04 2015 No.2489649 >>2483296 Every game ive tried worked fine with SSF, fully playable no crashes or bugs ive noticed. Then again ive not played on real hardware in years to compare.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 03:37:05 2015 No.2489650 >>2483346 which is? >>2483334 >RetroArch Id avoid that piece of shit. Cant even remap my controller on the android version

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 03:41:12 2015 No.2489656 File: 2.68 MB, 3648x2736, Neogeo_Pocket_Color.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2483163 Bitches don't know bout my clicky stick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 03:46:55 2015 No.2489667 >>2489650 A.S.P. Air Strike Patrol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:23:43 2015 No.2489691 >>2489656 i fucking love the ngpc so much. Best dpad ever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 04:29:24 2015 No.2489701 >>2489656 That's not a picture of a saturn panther GOAT stick though

Anonymous Tue Jun 23 05:36:48 2015 No.2489751

It's been over 15 years and nothing properly emulates Neo Geo Pocket/ Color and there is no Neo Geo CDs with acceptable loading hack. A 16x loading hacks for NGCD would have made the game so much better. and yes, there is a point for playing these over MVS/AES.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 23 06:08:51 2015 No.2489790 >>2483406 Saying lol makes you sound weak and unsure of yourself. This is why girls don't like you.

Anonymous Wed Jun 24 08:19:56 2015 No.2492329

>>2489649

Mystaria and Gaurdian Heroes both don't even load, and they were 2\3 games I cared about playing.

The emulator needs a ton of work, I was really surprised to see the state it was in, in 2015. The other game I tried ran just fine though, albeit without the option for filters but that's not a huge deal.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 08:21:26 2015 No.2492330 >>2489751 Probably because you'd be putting in all that work for a bunch of ports and then 2\3 original games that are worth playing. May as well dedicate that energy to something that really needs the support of a developer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 08:40:57 2015 No.2492349 >>2487418 You are retarded. I've beat Punch Out like a million times on an emulator. In fact, the first time I beat the game was on a emulator, then beat it on the consoles later. Stop talking out of your ass.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 13:23:08 2015 No.2492786 >>2492349 He's probably talking about the arcade Punch Out, with the dual CRTs and large buttons. Different game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 13:28:29 2015 No.2492801 >>2487857 because /vr/ should be about authentic original experiences OR the software, not the hipster pursuit of faux authenticity

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 14:42:33 2015 No.2492973 >>2492786 I didn't get that from his post. Let's just agree that for very hard games requiring really fast reflexes the emulator experience can be very different and you will never really know. This is particularly true for 5th+ generation games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 15:20:46 2015 No.2493043 >>2492349 Man, it's pretty well established that you can NOT beat Mike Tyson on the NES Punch Out if it's hooked up to an HDTV.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 15:25:52 2015 No.2493052 Neo Geo AES

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 15:46:27 2015 No.2493085 >>2493052 Have fun putting down a mortgage payment for it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 15:50:29 2015 No.2493094 >>2493085 Really ? It seems to me that you just need 6 months of putting aside some money honestly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 16:14:35 2015 No.2493148 >>2483163 but anon bsnes, CRT monitors, and usb controller adapters exist

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 20:46:49 2015 No.2493710 >>2493085 Have fun living in some African shithole where a mud hit costs 3 goats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 21:08:37 2015 No.2493764 >>2493710 What the fuck. That is not cool and doesn't even make sense.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 24 23:34:34 2015 No.2494018 >>2493764 It doesn't make sense that the guy has Internet access when he lives in a house worth slightly more than an AES

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