THIS IS NOT A DRILL, THIS IS NOT A DRILL

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THIS IS NOT A DRILL, THIS IS NOT A DRILL Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:04:28 No.2473628 [Reply] [Original]

IT'S FINALLY FUCKING HAPPENING

>Final Fantasy VII Remake Coming To PlayStation 4

>The Final Fantasy VII remake will use a more modern art style for Cloud, similar to his appearance in Dissidia Final Fantasy or Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children. It is being created to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Final Fantasy VII.

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/15/final-fantasy-vii-remake-is-coming-to-playstation-4/

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:05:45 No.2473630 >>2473628 Reports. ie rumors. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/ps4-hd-final-fantasy-7-remake-reports-emerge-ahead/1100-6428103/ what it likely is, is a port of FFVII PC and the other FFVII compilation games.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:07:02 No.2473637 File: 54 KB, 170x170, FFVI_Edgar_Roni_Figaro_Menu_iOS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who the fuck cares. I'm sick of companies rehashing the dame ducking game ad nauseam. Just give us something new already, instead of something safe.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:09:02 No.2473641 For Advent Children fanboys who can't into the original lego character models.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:10:49 No.2473645 >>2473637 FFXV is doing incredibly unique stuff, it makes sense for them to release a more traditional game, especially a remake people have been waiting for forever.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:11:08 No.2473646 >>2473637 The problem is that a lot of the new stuff isn't so good either. At least a remake usually isn't worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:23:04 No.2473671 File: 49 KB, 467x500, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are they redesigning Cloud to look like AC? Makes no sense.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:24:13 No.2473673

>>2473645
>FFXV is doing incredibly unique stuff
not /vr/ but Have you even played FFXV?

It's doing unique stuff... for a game that is 10 years old. Its incubation period is remarkably evident in its gameplay. It is actually doing *zero* unique things. Not a god damn thing about it is unique. It would have been unique if it came out back 100 years ago when it was "supposed" to, but now it's an aged game championed to succeed yet doomed to fail because the world will refuse to let it die.

Dragon's Dogma and Xenoblade are already 100x more the FF than FFXV could ever hope to be. XV looks beautiful and has the most fluid running animation I have ever seen though

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:24:45 No.2473680 >>2473671 >Makes no sense. Shekels, lad. The answer is always shekels.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:30:01 No.2473696 >>2473680 >Cloud gets no clothes and new look years after FFVII >TURNS OUT HE HAD THEM ALL ALONG FFVII:AC wasn't even that good.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:30:22 No.2473698 >>2473628 Siliconera is the only one reporting this rumor. I don't believe it, especially when they already announced a PS4 port of the PC version of FF7.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:35:08 No.2473717 >>2473696 It was 90 minutes straight of fighting, incomprehensible dialogue and giving gravity the middle finger.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:40:47 No.2473730 File: 102 KB, 640x960, cloud-strife-advent-children-anime-cloud-ffvii-strife-960x640[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2473671 You no like?

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:41:18 No.2473731

>>2473717
The part I hated most about it was the fucking pacing. It made no fucking sense. It was like they threw all the scene transitions in the trash and just did SCENE, SCENE, SCENE, SCENE etc etc. There was no transition to them, it was like watching a movie of CG movies in a video game without playing the game to know where are you , how they got here, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:46:56 No.2473748 >>2473730 It doesn't make sense. Why get rid of his trademark and somewhat iconic clothes and instead retcon him to have always worn the AC clothes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:49:11 No.2473751 >>2473628 They just announced a port of the PC version of FF7 to PS4. They aren't going to announce some remake.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 18:51:23 No.2473758 >>2473751 And it got a TON of backlash.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 19:06:05 No.2473784

>>2473673
>Dragon's Dogma and Xenoblade
Better games than any FF in the last two gens, easy.

>>2473698
>>2473751
Yeah, this. A true remake would be a fucking ton of work, and they're putting those resources towards finishing XV. Enjoy the PC port, though. >:(

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 19:40:39 No.2473870 >>2473637 Well a true remake would actually be a good thing. What's done to infinitum are re-releases. Those are horrid shit that should never happen.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 19:50:55 No.2473896
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>>2473870
Very few games are out right rereleased (except virtual console games). Often times they pretty up the graphics, or add a spell, or maybe an extra boss or dungeon. Still the same fucking game by me though. I want a new story and game mechanics. Problem is AAA HAVE to succeed because of the investment in them, so very little chance is taken and you get an engineered to make money piece of rehashed shit.

>>2473680
Knows what he's talkin about.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:05:50 No.2474192 >>2473730 No one did.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:06:58 No.2474193 File: 259 KB, 1680x945, 1434419298712.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MY BODY IS FUCKING READY FUCK YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:09:45 No.2474196 >>2474192 sound of neckbeardette vagoo glurkling == sound of $$$

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:10:01 No.2474197 >>2473628 Damn clickbait.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:18:58 No.2474214 >Directed by Tetsuya Nomura Hope fading fast...someone better fucking reel him in.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:23:19 No.2474223 FUCKING HAPPENING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G57vtB6NU-Y

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:26:39 No.2474232 >multi platform SONY BTFO HAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:28:55 No.2474237 I'm guessing PS4 and PC.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:32:04 No.2474242

>>2473628
Meh. IF I want to play FFVII again, I'll go buy an existing copy and play the actual FFVII again.

IDK what everyone's boner for remakes is all about anyway. Rather than REmake, we could have had REW4 3 years sooner. But no, rehash the same idea, same plot, same characters, but make it pretty and add a few extras.

Like, instead of an FFVII remake, they could have already been waist deep in developing FFXVI. Hell, I don't always get sequels either. Like, instead of FFXIII-2, they could have made a new Chrono game, a new Vagrant Story, a new Parasite Eve, an original idea of some kind. IDK...

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:32:42 No.2474243 SONY B T F O

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:40:27 No.2474261

>>2474242
This is actually really funny to me because I literally just started playing FF7 again last night.

I don't think they'll do it justice. FF7 was lighthearted for the most part. Sure, there are serious bits, but they're going to Nip it all up and its going to become this melodramatic quest and lose the charm of the original. It wouldn't surprise me if they fucked around with the battle system and made it some kind of Kingdom Hearts style either.

>Could have made a new Chrono Game
People are speculating that there will be one, Frogs theme is in one of the intro videos, we'll have to wait for their conference. I think they'd fuck up a Chrono Game though. Chrono Cross is pretty much the definition of a bad sequel (but not necessarily a bad game)

>A new Vagrant Story
Vagrant Story would be a good one. I beat it recently and the ending is pretty open ended. Could have Ashley doing something with his new Dark powers with the what, Blood Sign? Rood Inverse or whatever. Could be interesting. I just like the world of Ivalice before it got retarded in FF12 with all the weird beast races that felt kind of out of place.

>A new Parasite Eve
3rd Birthday basically shows they have no idea wtf to do with Parasite Eve. Parasite eve is better off as a one off game, Parasite Eve 2 was kind loose in its connections and didn't really feel like a sequel.

I'd like to see a new PS4 Mana game with multiplayer just like SoM or SD3, that'd be pretty fun I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:41:27 No.2474269 >>2474261 >Sure, there are serious bits, but they're going to Nip it all up and its going to become this melodramatic quest and lose the charm of the original See >>2474214 Be afraid.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:42:12 No.2474271

Nothing to be exicted about. Have you learned nothing from their previous remakes? It will be a different game with different gameplay with none of the charm that you love about the real game. See: FF3 and 4 DS.

Anyone who still thinks that remakes, especially Square Enix remakes, are the same games with nice graphics is a blind cursed fool.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:45:03 No.2474285 >>2474269 >Directed Advent Children Its over.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:46:03 No.2474289 >>2474271 4 on DS was actually... pretty good. The gameplay was fundamentally the same but they added some customization and post-game content. Thats hardly a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:48:21 No.2474297 >>2474285 >ruined the once simple and clean Kingdom Hearts story which is now a fucking mess

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:49:48 No.2474301 >>2474297 While I agree. We have fucking SEEN what he has done with FF7 and you can now see exactly what its going to be.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:50:35 No.2474304 That fucking narration in the trailer completely ruins it. Seriously hope it's not present in the game and was only added for E3.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 22:57:25 No.2474318 >>2474304 I have a feeling that the remake is going to take place after AC with someone telling a story and the whole game is a Princess Bride flashback dealy.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:00:26 No.2474324 This means we'll get more Tifa netorare doujins, yay

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:00:58 No.2474327

How does it feel that you need a modern console to play the latest most up to date version of FF7? That your precious game, which is already seen as out dated and aged, will quickly be forgotten by the masses who will move onto the new Advent Children inspired version?

Delicious retro gaming tears as the kids play Neo-FF7 and love it while hating Retro-FF7. Old version will be seen as unplayable, and no better than an Atari game.

It will be just like what happened to Resident Evil, except way, way worse.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:02:13 No.2474328 >>2474324 She better get raped by monsters.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:03:10 No.2474332 >>2474327 No one buys FF anymore. The total failure of the last few FFs is why they're doing this remake. Their only chance of making the series sell again is by remaking the highest selling game in the series.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:06:09 No.2474338 File: 465 KB, 1920x1080, 20111126-170845.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474332 13 or whatever one Lightning was in killed the franchise stone dead, then they forced a sequel which no one liked THEN forced another sequel.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:07:02 No.2474342

>>2474327
how does it feel like being a gigantic faggot, holy shit
anyway ff7 fanbase was always cringe worthy and full of gay shipping, it's the exact point in history when square went into faggot gackt belt and zipper mode. complaining about it now is just wearing nostalgia goggles when there's already a million sequels on psp and ps2 that retconned advent children into the canon

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:07:30 No.2474346 >>2474332 I think its funny how things change. Final Fantasy literally saved Squaresoft. It became their flagship. Now it is the one thing that is slowly killing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:09:32 No.2474349 >>2474261 >Chrono Cross is pretty much the definition of a bad sequel (but not necessarily a bad game) Honestly, I'd be fine with another bad Chrono sequel as long as it was enjoyable in a completely different way like Cross was.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:09:54 No.2474350 File: 122 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474346 and tumblr is the thing that is saving them

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:10:00 No.2474351

>>2474346
In my opinion it's the stores killing the franchise. They used to be a little bit Japanese storytelling, a bit deep but nothing too extreme. But now they are a fucking jumbled mess or shit thrown at the wall which no one understands.

Again, Kingdom Hearts 1 then look what happened to the story afterwards. Fucking mess. SE needs to fucking pump the brakes on stories.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:13:21 No.2474359 >all these shitty jrpgs coming out from square-enix >everyone now belongs in a visual queer band can't square-enix just close their doors already?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:13:51 No.2474361 >>2474327 There's already an HD port that keeps most of the original directing intact. It's the Steam version.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:14:24 No.2474363 >>2474359 Sometimes I honestly wish a lot of the big studios would just go under. So much stagnation. So much garbage coming out lately. Such disrespect for IP's that made the companies millions of dollars.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:14:59 No.2474367 >>2474359 You bought up a good point here, I'm >>2474351 and at some point all SE characters have become overdesigned to the point where they are horrible to look at.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:17:26 No.2474373 >>2474193 Where did you find this? is this new?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:18:27 No.2474376 >>2474242 But the same game but prettier with extras is literally exactly what I want.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:19:16 No.2474378 >>2474324 Will Vincent/Cid doujins come back

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:20:12 No.2474380 Sony can even keep their game an exclusive Hahahahahahha

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:20:20 No.2474381 >>2474363 >tons and tons of people are happy about an announcement >this studio should just go under

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:22:01 No.2474382 >>2474327 This. You'll be that angry old man who stays mad because he hates new things, aka cranky kong.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:23:44 No.2474383 >>2474381 Ignoring is never an option.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:24:23 No.2474386 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTGsEHOjzAE No need for a remake. A fan has already remastered the game in HD.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:24:54 No.2474391 >>2474376 this. why fix whats not broke? just make it look better

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:26:00 No.2474393

>>2474381
I have always said, that SE is going to hold out on a FF remake until they are really in a bind.

An FF7 remake, even if its shit, is almost a blank cheque.

It was easily the single most popular game of the Playstation era. Millions of people have played, and it is universally loved.

Honestly, I probably will buy it. But I have almost zero expectations of it being anywhere near as fun and magical as the original. I honestly half expect it to be some abomination of Kingdom Hearts combat, and the story to be so needlessly drama-filled and grimdark. I expect all the characters to be completely hollow and I expect flat and uninspired voice acting to complement the "new and improved" dialogue.

But right now, I'm going to continue playing FF7 and enjoy the silly parade through Junon and hopefully get myself a Force Stealer pre-North Corel.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:26:33 No.2474394

>>2474342
>it's the exact point in history when square went into faggot gackt belt and zipper mode.

Well what happened is that FF7 was super popular, which gave Nomura more power and freedom. THEN he went insane. Nomura was restrained and totally sane for FF7. But FF7 is the cause of his insane belt-zipper phase.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:27:05 No.2474396 >>2474386 Ah yes I'm sure that'll be just as good. How the fuck can you think that the existence of this means that there is "no need for a remake"

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:27:16 No.2474397 >>2474386 that's for pc and it's also a pain in the ass to set up

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:28:16 No.2474401

>>2474361
>HD port

Bullshit. The backgrounds are still 240p or 480p, I'm not sure. They straight up lost the original models and the original renderings ages ago.

Some of the work on FF9 was out sourced, and a few of the artists kept the original backgrounds at the original high resolutions, but that's it. Square themselves lost their material. Game companies did not think ahead.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:28:41 No.2474402

>>2474351

I think their problem has less to do with the stories and more to due with the design paradigm that the writers are restricted to. Every plot in SE's games is about some global/multiverse calamity with an big bad villain and a party of heroes. You can only do so much with those ideas before they become stale. Maybe it would be better if they cut out most of the storytelling and character development and focus on the gameplay.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:31:29 No.2474406

>>2474401
They are 240p, and the native resolution for the PC version is 320x240. Even though it always had the 640x480 option, the backgrounds were pixelated and stretched even in that.

The Steam release is just the 1998 PC port with a few more recent patches thrown on to run smoothly.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:32:04 No.2474410 >>2474401 >Some of the work on FF9 was out sourced Actually, almost all of the 3D rendering was. Not necessarily outsourced, but Square had a studio up in Hawaii employed by Americans and that's where all of those renders come from.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:33:34 No.2474412 >>2474401 yeah that is correct, there's nothing we can do about it >>2474406 it's the original pc release with fan patches

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:34:52 No.2474413 >>2474402 >focus on the gameplay. What kind of gameplay is there on a jrpg? You collect equipment and mash X, that's it.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:37:54 No.2474417 >>2474413 Hey, come on now. Let's be fair, you mash Circle.

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Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:40:01 No.2474424

I know all we have is a short trailer, but the tone and overall look of what we've seen thus far screams "edgy remake in the image and tone of AC", which I seriously, seriously fear it will be.

Like, is it me or do most FFVII fanboys have a crazy selective memory of what the game was actually like? It's like all they remember is the dark and serious scenes like the FMV of Sephiroth walking into the fire or whatever. Certainly feels like AC was created specifically to appease that crowd. And now this remake is yet again pandering to that edgy subset of the fanbase who claim they like the game, but can't stand the lego characters and lack of voice acting.

Also, I recall there being an interview some years ago where they actually said some of the things they put in the game back then would not fly nowadays, and some stuff like the whole Honeybee Inn would probably be removed. This is what we're dealing with here.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:40:06 No.2474425 >>2474271 >None of the charm Its the same game with the exception of the sprites not being there anymore.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:42:22 No.2474429

>>2474425

>same game

We're gonna get retcons. There's a massive change in art style. It follows Advent Children's designs. It ditches the anime look of the original games. The game likely will use FF15's engine and battle system. So it will feel like an elaborate FF15 mod. People will either like that or dislike that.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:42:33 No.2474431

>>2473784
>Better games than any FF in the last two gens, easy.
I agree, and they are both also exactly the kind of thing that FFXV is trying to do, except FFXV (demo) is more boring.

The gameplay for FFXV so far is "hold square to run, point control stick towards pack of enemies, continue to hold square because square is also the attack button, and then keep holding square throughout the battle while your character performs (beautifully fluid) attacks that you have zero control over"

It's seriously just a worse Dragon's Dogma or Xenoblade. It would have been cool 10 years ago when it was announced, but at this point it really needs something else besides the FF name to carry it.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:44:55 No.2474434

>>2474431
>The gameplay for FFXV so far is "hold square to run, point control stick towards pack of enemies, continue to hold square because square is also the attack button, and then keep holding square throughout the battle while your character performs (beautifully fluid) attacks that you have zero control over"

heh.

I was saying just this in a /v/ thread a while ago, where I judged the gameplay would play exactly like that based on the videos. That you would feel like you really have zero control over your character and the game kind of plays itself. They said I was full of it, and that I couldn't judge a game based on video alone. Looks like I was 100% right.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:45:06 No.2474435

>>2474429
>Battle system
Don't be foolish.

Its going to get the FF4DS treatment because everyone knows that Square messing this up is tantamount to ruining what little hope people have left in them.

I feel like you guys give Nomura too much shit for the FF7 Spinoffs when some of them aren't even his fault. The main forces behind CC were Tabata and Nojima but its Nomura's fault that it turned out badly.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:50:59 No.2474449
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>>2474429
>The game likely will use FF15's engine and battle system. So it will feel like an elaborate FF15 mod.
That would actually be a fucking huge improvement. Nah, we all know it will be a lot easier to just copy the old ATB system.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:51:13 No.2474450

>>2474435
Yeah, I doubt they're going to mess too much with the battle system beyond some gameplay additions and possibly some rebalancing.

What I am afraid of is what they'll do to the overall tone of the game. Anyone that's played the game in the past 5 years will tell you FFVII is full of goofy shit, some of which I cannot foresee holding up if the entire game looks just like Advent Children. Expect a ton of scenes to be reworked or even outright removed.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:54:01 No.2474454 >>2474450 Also, expect 100% more Gac- I mean Genesis.

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:54:20 No.2474457

>>2474434
>Looks like I was 100% right.
Yeah, pretty much. I was so excited for the demo but I have no hope for FFXV anymore. I expect it to be a western RPG fan's wet dream of Final Fantasy and not in a good way.

The gameplay really is just "hold square while you do pretty looking things". It's a crime to have assigned run and attack to the same fucking button.

You equip 1 weapon to each different "type" of attack like "starter", "finisher", etc. And that sounds awesome and it sounds like you have lots of control, but you don't. The attacks all go in sequence and you don't have any control over it, you just hold square. The only thing you can really do is force the "starter" attack over and over again by pressing square once, waiting a second, then pressing it once again. Besides that, everything performs in sequence while you just fucking hold square the whole game. It goes "starter", cycles through the other attacks while you just sit hold square and watch, and then when the enemy has 15% hp or so it forces you to perform ther "finisher"

It's really really lame, and for a game that has been in development I expected more... but then again, the antiquated gameplay is actually fitting and shows what was "cutting edge" at the time of FFXV's inception.

I swear to god they have thrown 80% of their budget towards the running animation. All the animations really are gorgeous. The jump animation in the demo sucks ass though, but because every other animation is amazing I'm pretty sure they'll fix the jump one

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:55:10 No.2474459 >>2474457 nice /v/ post

Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:55:23 No.2474460

>>2474450
They won't remove anything. Most of the main staff is around so at most, they'll just change up a few things.

People are still going to say that they changed shit when we actually get proper translations this time though. Remake 8 and how much they messed up Squall's character in the translation?

>>2474454
Genesis is fucking dead get over it. Tabata and Nojima don't have the power over this remake like they did with CC.

Why do you people still spread that bullshit about Genesis being Nomura's fault?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 15, 2015 23:59:07 No.2474471 >>2474459 >nice /v/ post Thanks This thread is about a game that is coming to the PS4. I'm pretty sure we've dropped all pretenses of retro in this thread

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:01:02 No.2474480 >>2474471 yeah you might be correct, you can't avoid modern topics while E3 is happening

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:06:26 No.2474502

>>2474460
I just cannot see how something like the Honeybee Inn and everything that happens there could survive on a game looking like AC without some massive reworking. Or bits like Cloud giving a young girl CPR, and then using a dolphin to leap 50 fucking meters into a military base. The whole Wall Market bit. The bitch-slap fight against Scarlet. I could go on. So much of that would need to be changed so that it doesn't induce full-on cringe with realistic, voiced characters.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:14:52 No.2474519

>>2474460
>>2474460
Genesis is anything but dead. He's currently the planets last weapon left to protect it. The planet/life stream cured him and brought him back to life bro. And at the end of Dirge he got free again to protect the planet since it was in danger. If they ever make a sequel he's be a hero/MC

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:17:23 No.2474525 >>2474502 I wonder how they are going to handle those too. All the more reason why this remake is going to be interesting, even if you hate modern squeenix.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:19:30 No.2474529 >>2474373 not him but it looks like an Ehrgeiz promo judging by resolution and outfit

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:26:07 No.2474543

>>2474402

>you can only do so much with these ideas before they become stale

I don't think story telling has that much of a limit. Especially since they were consistently knocking shit out of the park for so long.

FF1 had the stable time loop, FF2 had the Emperor dying and conquering hell as well as a different style of darker crap-sack world narrative, FF4 was more of a traditional story with a sudden departure near the end(THE MOON!), FF5 was FF5, FF6 had two worlds and the Villain winning, FF7 BEST GAME ALL TIME, FF8 was... well, it hit the mark for different whether you love it or hate it. FF9 was a strong traditional number, 10 was a strong different twist.

12 imo fell apart really bad, I beat the whole game and it took until near the end to feel that any of the characters had any stake in what was happening at all. Haven't tried 13.

There's always room to focus the narrative or fine-tune the setting. I always thought FF7 might've been a real hoot if the majority of the game took place in or around Midgar, but that was back when it first came out and it blew my young mind how big the city seemed. I thought we'd go through all eight sectors and shit. The actual game was pretty good too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:27:05 No.2474546 >>2473628 FFX was proof just how terrible and cringeworthy FF dialogue is when you put a voice to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:30:21 No.2474552 >>2474546 It wasn't that bad, you just wish somebody was around to slap a bitch before the HA HA HA HA HA scene was put in. I liked a lot of the VAs and the work in FFX.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:31:37 No.2474556 >>2474552 at least the hahaha shit became a meme, the kiss scene was worse

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:31:57 No.2474557 damn say goodbye to most of the charm

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:33:23 No.2474559

>>2474546
Fucking this

Ever since they started doing VA work for FF (and most RPGs) I've wished I could get the Japanese voices, turn subtitles off, and just make up my own reason for why stuff is happening. It would be better that way

>>2474552
>It wasn't that bad
I just beat FFX literally last week. Rikku, Wakka, and Auron were good. Seymour did creepy very well. Everyone else had 0/10 voices, and the main fucking character was the worst of them all

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:34:06 No.2474560 >>2474557 The original game isn't gonna change, ya know.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:43:42 No.2474578 >>2473730 He looks like a faggot. SE is trying to cash in on the LGBT craze like many other companies have done.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:44:06 No.2474581 >>2474560 i know i know but this is just completely unnecessary, most of the people clamoring for it have probably never even finished the original game

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:49:44 No.2474594 >all the idiots excited for a rehash. This is why gaming is dead. Why make a whole new game when you can cash in on idiots.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 00:57:04 No.2474602 >>2474546 HUAR HUAR HUAR HUAR HUAR HUAR But for real I hope they don't add VO or at the very least keep it to a minimum

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:03:21 No.2474615

>>2474502
Bro, the entirety of the first half is campy as fuck
Off the top of my head since I'm replaying:
>Falling 100 meters into a church and landing conveniently on some flowers
>Wall Market Cross Dressing and Don Corneo
>Priscilla bits with Mr. Dolphin
>The whole Parade Segments
>Barret in a sailor suit, Red XIII in uniform
>Gold Saucer in its entirety
>Chocobo Racing
>Bugenhagen flying around
>Cid screaming about God damn TEA
>Heading to the great glacier
>Snowboarding
>Submarine Fights

And theres a shitload more.

Then it kind of tightens up towards the end, but its stilll very light, very "lets mosey"

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:08:29 No.2474621 >>2474271 I was really happy with how FF4 DS turned out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:16:56 No.2474634 >>2474594 >being this much of an asshole

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:21:09 No.2474638 >>2474393 I guess square enix is using a limit break irl... their HP is looking hella low..

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:24:10 No.2474642
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>>2474615
Not him, but I was thinking the same thing. It's going to be really weird to have all these scenes without having a chibi style to the models. Advent Children and all Compilation Of FF7 games were devoid of humor, I'm just don't see how they can make stuff like Miss Cloud, stealing Tifa's underwear, or Gold Saucer dates work in the new realistic style. It'll be really bizarre.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:31:56 No.2474660 >>2474615 remember when you fight Palmer in Cid's backyard and when you beat him he gets hit by an 18 wheeler also we're gonna see fucking hi def Cait Sith

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:39:06 No.2474680 >>2474660 LOOOOOL I feel sorry for the development team already

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:46:01 No.2474694 File: 10 KB, 180x135, 180px-FFVII_Tifa_&_Scarlet_Fight.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474680 Just imagine this scene with Advent Children models.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:50:00 No.2474703

There's no way anyone at Square knows why FF7 was good. This is obviously shown by, well, everything they've done since. And especially everything FF7 related, which doesn't look or feel anything like FF7.

I can't imagine why you'd want something you like to be defaced by talentless hacks. But then there are actually people who will defend that hideous mobile port of FF6 that looks like shit.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:50:29 No.2474705

>>2474694

Mite b hot. Especially the chair escape beforehand. Wipes sweat from brow.

You know what I wanna see no joking? The Proud Clod fight. God Damn the final take down of Shinra and Hojo was always incredible. But seeing that thing stomp up and replace the boss theme with the Shinra theme was the best and most dramatic.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:58:27 No.2474723

>>2474703
>There's no way anyone at Square knows why FF7 was good
Totally agree. Look how poorly received all three XIII games were; the usual praise is something along the lines of "it could be worse" or "not as bad as the last one". They have no idea what a good or fun JRPG is at all, only that it needs to have the best graphics possible.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 01:58:48 No.2474724
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http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/15/final-fantasy-vii-remake-coming-first-to-playstation-4-directed-by-tetsuya-nomura/

Welp, looks like it really is happening, The one remake that almost everybody has being crying over is due in a couple of years. I just hope they don't fuck it up too bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 02:05:12 No.2474731 File: 56 KB, 500x333, 1407151736151.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474724 How and why would you think they'd fuck it up??

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 02:06:33 No.2474735 >>2474731 It's modern Square, how could they NOT fuck it up?

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 02:08:47 No.2474738

>>2474237
>Japanese games
>ever coming to PC

Sony pretty much is the Japanese government, at best PC will get the game a decade later, a shoddy port that has all of the hallmarks of a console game that was built not with the source code, but as an approximation.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 02:12:49 No.2474743 File: 61 KB, 500x737, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474735 Just fuck my shit up, Square

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 02:23:03 No.2474754

>>2474502
>>2474694
>>2474642
Shit, this and some other posts really convinced me to not want the remake. I havent played FF since 10 but from what I hear, theyve all sucked since.

I think it would be difficult for Square at their best to be able to pull off what you guys mentioned (comical/light hearted scenes and moments with realistic models and voice actors)

I always wanted a FF7 remake because I feel the graphics are bad enough to warrant it (I obviously dont mind bad graphics but I mind it when it gets in the way of gameplay... Ive missed a lot of things thanks to the graphics) but I also believe true classics dont need a remake.

I guess I'll just play that cleaned up PC port.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 02:43:38 No.2474783 >>2474450 Crisis Core was pretty dark overall but it had lots of lighthearted moments. I can understand being wary of Square Enix but you guys exaggerate it way too much.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 03:20:55 No.2474834

>>2474724
I'm thinking it could have a bit of rewrite instead of a simple remake, like what happened to Gundam: The Origin.

>>2474450
Goofiest thing I remembered from AC was probably the Reno fight.
But silly stuff still happens on FF14 though, so they've still not completely removed from that.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 03:40:08 No.2474858 >>2474660 >we're gonna see fucking hi def Cait Sith it will be Iscar Matthias

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 03:43:44 No.2474860 File: 62 KB, 250x310, Final_Fantasy_XIII_EU_box_art.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] That's how it's going to be. Just with some token transgender people.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 03:49:57 No.2474869 File: 39 KB, 427x450, d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FREEZE FAGGOTS THIS IS THE NOT RETRO POLICE THIS THREAD IS IN VIOLATION OF MY FEELS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE TOLD THIS IS NOT RETRO

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 03:55:10 No.2474878
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Does anything of FFVII's plot need to be changed in order to accomodate the plots of Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core and Advent Children?

The only thing I really remember is that Dirge of Cerberus had an explaination for why FFVII's final cutscene did not feature Vincent and Yuffie.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 03:56:14 No.2474879 >>2474738 Have you... looked at steam lately?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 04:07:47 No.2474894 File: 79 KB, 716x768, 4u.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474869 >FBI

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 04:14:10 No.2474898

>>2473870
but re-boots and re-makes are usually more disasterious than re-releases. But then again you FF7-fags love FF7 and hate other retro games so much because it's a game trying to be like what is considered a mainstream modern game now in the retro era, so maybe it would work for you losers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 04:17:59 No.2474904 >>2474735 actually, modern square doesn't have the balls to fuck shit up, all they do these days are re-re-release old games and leave everything else up to US developers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 04:24:26 No.2474910 >>2474738 There's a Japan exclusive Windows port of FF7. http://www.jp.square-enix.com/ffvii-pc-jp/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 04:29:06 No.2474916 >>2473641 Mate, those were shit then and they are shit now. They tried to do the SD style of sprites and screwed it up.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 04:36:57 No.2474928 >>2474904 >and leave everything else up to US developers. That's Konami you're thinking of. They did it to Silent Hill and Castlevania, and you can bet your bottom dollar they'll do it to Metal Gear once they get rid of Kojima.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 05:42:37 No.2474997 What do you guys think about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arAOYBZZSE0

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 05:44:28 No.2474998 >>2474997 >3 seconds in >Close window Never take the opinion of a metalfag seriously

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 05:59:03 No.2475013

FF VII is one of my favourite games, but I'm in two minds about a remake rather than a new game. Careful what you wish for... the novelty of sparkly new graphics will quickly wear off.

Games are designed around the technological limitations of the time. If they just update the graphics and leave the gameplay unchanged it just feels wrong to me. It's like those tablet FFs where the sprites stand out from the backgrounds, it's better but also somehow wrong.

What I would like to see is a new game that develops the materia system even further, tries to avoid grinding, awesome AI, makes the FF world seem real (things like npcs going about their life rather being there to serve you) etc.

I hope they do FF7 justice, but I am not hopeful

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 06:37:57 No.2475048
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>>2475013
>It's like those tablet FFs where the sprites stand out from the backgrounds, it's better but also somehow wrong.
I haven't met ANYONE who defended the art style in those mobile games. I honestly think they were better off just slapping an emulator filter over the original and calling it a day.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 07:15:50 No.2475083 >>2474502 Your mind is too closed off. Why would them using the AC style art somehow make it impossible to do the lighter stuff? Crisis Core had a realistic style but they still did some light hearted scenes.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 07:16:51 No.2475085 >>2475048 5 and 6's artstyle was lifted from another game that was designed around it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 07:26:59 No.2475094 >>2474502 They better have the fucking Honeybee inn. And make ultima weapon actually hard and also add more mega bosses

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 07:29:14 No.2475097 >>2475048 Why don't the edges of the meteor tiles line up smoothly?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 07:29:54 No.2475098 >>2474660 It wouldn't surprise me if they got rid of Cait Sith all together

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:10:31 No.2475136 >>2474878 The worst change would be accommodating Genesis into Nibelheim. That shit needs to be left untouched, unfortunetly I think there is no hope of this.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:27:27 No.2475150 If only they had chosen FF4/5/6 instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:29:06 No.2475152 >>2475048 That's what happens when you hand the project off to interns. Literally looks worse than 99% of the RPG Maker shovelware out there.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:30:50 No.2475156 >tifa >cute cowgirl outfit during Nibelhelm flashback >dlc all my shekels, I don't give a fuck.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:38:34 No.2475159
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>going to remove the goofy camp aspects of the game
>turning cloud into an actual emo piece of shit like in advent children

How the fuck is this remake going to do the original any kind of justice? I'm sure the gameplay will somehow be worse and they will likely trim shit down or streamline it, almost every remake these days makes things worse than the original aside from graphical capability.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:41:36 No.2475162 File: 325 KB, 900x900, 1425624415538.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475159 >Cloud wasn't emo in FF7

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:48:43 No.2475171 >>2475162 There is a pretty big difference between FF7 cloud and advent children cloud. FF7 cloud is in "what am i fighting forrrrrrr" mode for certain sequences, while he is perpetually in that mode for the entirety of advent children.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 08:51:03 No.2475173

>>2475162
Different anon here

He's not emo in FF7. When I replayed it last year for the first time since my childhood, I was kinda shocked to find out that he isn't emo at all. All this AC Kingdom Hearts emo Cloud bullshit is completely wrong.

If he's at all emo, it's only after he finds out that he thinks he's Zack or whatever. Even after that, I wouldn't say he's emo

Squall on the other hand...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 09:16:04 No.2475196 >>2475171 >>2475173 Nah, he was definitely emo. You guys just have very poor reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 09:29:59 No.2475209 File: 73 KB, 600x563, 1428095178001.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't want to come off like a turboautist, but a PS4 remake of FF7 isn't "retro" and doesn't belong on this board.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 09:32:12 No.2475212 File: 128 KB, 960x960, 1434011894904.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475209 Agreed, it's going to be an entirely different game anyway. >mfw they remove the world map and make everything straight lines

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:00:48 No.2475240 >>2474754 The only thing bad about FF7's graphics are the world models. They are usually (but not always) zoomed out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:04:09 No.2475250 >>2475196 Salty ff6 fanboy detected

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:08:59 No.2475253 >>2475173 >Squall on the other hand... If Cloud isn't emo then Squall is even less emo as he doesn't have one moment when he questions himself. Asocial fuck=/=Emo

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:10:50 No.2475254 >>2475209 Neither is Shenmue III but it's still got a thread up.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:17:14 No.2475267
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I'm surprised to be honest. I expected more people to be against this shit here on /vr/.

Personally, although I'd love to be able to delude myself and believe the opposite, this remake has all the signs pointing against it.

First off there is Nomura directing, which is terrible since he has shown to be completely unable to do something right if he doesn't have someone making tabs on him like when Sakaguchi was still producing at Squaresoft.

Second, I don't really feel like searching for a source, but countless times he has mentioned how "different" he would have done things in games like FF7 or FF8 if he had full director's duties and, if we take a look at the projects he directed then we will see a pretty grim situation.

There is no need to name drop autistic shit like Kingdom Hearts here, is enough to look at how they already raped FF7 with things like Advent Children and Crisis Core. With CC is even sadder because the game itself is fine, they just fucked up in one thing: the story. They fucked up the one thing they already established in the original game because they wanted to retcon characters like Genesis into the main cannon and it ended up making no fucking sense.

Won't bother about Nojima and Kitase. Like Nomura they have shown that, at last in FF7 related projects, they have lost it.

tl;dr do you remember all the kids who played KH, watched AC and loved edgy Cloud? all the people who "loves" FF7 but actually never played it because "shit graphx"? This remake is for them, and for them only. I hope I'm mistaken and when SE starts showing off gameplay and stuff it looks wonderful and faithful to the original material, without any Genesis nonsense and "cool&epic" changes for the modern audience, but I know it just wont happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:18:13 No.2475269 File: 1.23 MB, 1920x1080, dat pit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475212 >mfw Final Fantasy 7: On Lightning's Wings

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:22:04 No.2475273 >>2474738 >Sony pretty much is the Japanese government, I didn't knew the japanese government was teetering at the edge of bankruptcy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:24:23 No.2475278 >>2475209 >I don't want to come off like a turboautist, but a PS4 remake of FF7 isn't "retro" and doesn't belong on this board. The board rules are confusingly stated, so I don't blame you for being confused. But remakes, and ports are on topic.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:25:17 No.2475279 >>2475267 >Nojima >Kitase Anybody else hate Japanese names? It makes their character unmemorable. I'm with you, though. This game is gonna be a big hit masterpiece (like the original) or a complete failure. There is no in between.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:27:16 No.2475283 >>2475273 The only actually stable game industry in computers in Japan is the VN one (and it's crumbling nowadays). Everything else is on consoles.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:28:59 No.2475285 >>2475279 That's where kanji comes. The phonetics is w/e.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:29:41 No.2475287 File: 18 KB, 354x333, bart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475094 >And make ultima weapon actually hard and also add more mega bosses No, shut up, go away. Leave it alone.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:31:40 No.2475290 >>2475267 I don't really care, because I don't have a PS4, and never will and thus won't play it. It is going to be awful, like every other FF7 cash-in game.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:33:01 No.2475292

>>2475094
I kinda wish that megabosses are optional ones during the storyline like that book in FF9, any optional boss added to endgame is just boring and doesn't feel really rewarding. Getting the auto-haste boots in disc 2 felt rewarding as fug in FF9

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:37:20 No.2475297

>>2475094

Emerald and Ruby already are the megabosses.

Not like square does that shit properly anyway, its literally just grind until you can faceroll them to death.

They need to look at SMT for megabosses and how they require actual strategy and not simply over levelling the encounter.

I mean emerald is pretty easy even without knights of the round, you don't even need to be in the 80s or 90s to faceroll it to death, just spam omnislash and pray you don't get wiped out before you kill him, mindless shit.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:38:08 No.2475298

>>2474878
Everything. I don't want to go in-detail but basically the whole DoC's plot is absolutely retarded by itself and by the original game standards because is established that a lot of important shit happened before and at the same time that the original FF7 (which is never mentioned ofc).

Crisis Core is really good overall. Some lame fuck ups here and there but solid... until the end that's it, then it goes all out and retcons, contradicts, changes and adds a load of shit to the original game that, like with DoC's plot, makes not fucking sense.

Any of you remember Zack's and Cloud's escape from the Shinra manor? It is almost completely redone in Crisis Core (and not in a good way).

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 10:54:03 No.2475316 >>2473696 >Cloud gets no clothes >no clothes If Square did that they'd be able to run off profits from this remake alone for the next 20 years

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:02:55 No.2475326 File: 109 KB, 563x364, 1374124690787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2474242 >a new Vagrant Story, a new Parasite Eve >tfw these franchises are deader than dead

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:04:54 No.2475328 >>2475326 Think of the good side about it: they died when they reached the top. That way you have very fond memories of them. Can you say the same about FF?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:09:11 No.2475330 >>2475328 Parasite Eve didn't exactly die at its height but at least the gameplay of the third birthday was fun as fuck.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:11:24 No.2475335

>>2475326

>further vagrant story games without matsuno brand crazy running the show

I loved both parasite eve games though, I feel those have potential for remakes/sequels, too bad third birthday sort of shit on that despite basically being a what if story line.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:12:22 No.2475338 File: 589 KB, 1010x707, lRzKs.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475162 >>2475171 >>2475196

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:18:20 No.2475349 >>2474271 except FF4DS was actually pretty good, only being hindered by the limitations of the DS. FF3 was a very shallow and charmless game to begin with. Theier attempt at characterization of the heroes wasn't good but it is still fun.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:32:20 No.2475371

>>2474754
>Shit, this and some other posts really convinced me to not want the remake. I havent played FF since 10 but from what I hear, theyve all sucked since.
The important thing to remember is that the original isn't going anywhere. It'll always exist and you'll always be able to go back to it.

It really doesn't matter what they do but with how good their last few games have been, I don't think they'd take this on without knowing what they're getting in for.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:37:31 No.2475381 >>2475338 R.I.P. in piece Cloud Strife

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:55:10 No.2475420
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>>2474634
He's right. Games are about gameplay, if you're excited to play the same game just because it looks different then you're no better than those bedshitters who like Bioshock infinite.

On top of that S-E and Nomura have done a fucking awful job in handling FF and FF7 in particular so far, why in the holy fuck would this be any different?

It's expected of /v/irgins to be excited by some sparkles, but I hoped better for this place.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 11:55:26 No.2475421 >>2473870 It's good for games you missed and that are now ridiculously priced. I never had a Playstation 2, so it was convenient that most worthwhile games for that console were rereleased at bargain price for Playstation 3.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:00:37 No.2475429 >>2474242 They're a company, they're trying to make money, not being diverse. Also, remakes are pretty much always made by B-teams or outsourced to smaller developers.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:00:41 No.2475430

>>2474289
>>2474425
>>2474621
What makes the FF4 remake good is what was left untouched, not what was added/changed.
That's the fucking point, if your game is gonna be overall worse than the original except in the graphic department they shouldn't even bother.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:06:15 No.2475441

>>2475430

While this is true, they also added / changed things about the game that made it a new experience, what with the game being overall much more difficult due to counters and what not.

Such changes are welcome, but leaving the core alone is important.

Like if they remove the world map and turn FF7 into fucking FF10 or 13 I'm going to be pissed, and I'm afraid of this because they haven't had a FF game with a real world map since FF9.

And really that's not the worst that could happen with a remake of 7, it could get real bad real fast.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:08:58 No.2475443 >>2475441 >because they haven't had a FF game with a real world map since FF9. I'll take "What is Final Fantasy 12" for 500 dollars

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:11:42 No.2475448

>>2475441
The releases for GBA did that too, while leaving the core unchanged, which the DS didn't.

And I'm gonna bet they're gonna mess with the remake too, I'm calling it now: there will be anime-style cutscenes like in AC, with people flying and bouncing like fucking DBZ.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:12:34 No.2475450 >>2475443 A boring, ugly single player MMO that we'd rather forget.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:13:20 No.2475454 >>2475450 You were wrong though, despite your opinions about 12

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:15:25 No.2475459 File: 10 KB, 429x410, reactionimage4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475048 Argh dear god, is this real? Who authorized this?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:15:50 No.2475461 >>2475454 It's world map wasn't the same, though. It was basically a decorated menu-system

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:18:17 No.2475467

>>2475443

The "world" map in FF12 isn't the same thing, its the same in concept, but in execution its more like STALKER with its huge open fields that connect to one another.

I mean more along the lines of going from kalm to the chocobo farm in FF7, with characters being disproportionate to the buildings on the world map, and being able to control the inevitable airship manually as opposed to just select this location on the map and teleport there.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:18:24 No.2475469 >>2475461 Old overworld maps were mostly because of hardware limitations and the amount of data you could have in a game and disc

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:19:56 No.2475473 >>2475467 The world map in FF7 and FFX isn't a huge amount of difference really, once you get the airship in 7 it's basically the same save the travel time

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:23:08 No.2475480

Hate to mention it, but has anybody seen the Reddit comments about this remake? They're all peeing themselves and posting some of the most autistic comments I've ever seen.

What is it that makes us difference? It seems like we're cold, rational, and weary about the game, while they're instantly amused.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:24:16 No.2475482

>>2475048
Why didn't they just port the ROM to the mobile and save people time and trouble, why waste money on making it look like shit?

I mean there should be software for Mobile phones for Emulation.

Look at how they made the SMT Mobile version, they just used an officially translated GBA version and added a unique interface. at the bottom.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:24:18 No.2475483 >>2473637 >dame ducking game What?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:30:37 No.2475491 >>2474705 FF7 did have good moments regardless of how many people think it's overrated. I would love to see the Moment when Diamond Weapon attacks Midgard using redefined graphics.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:32:46 No.2475496 >>2473637 A new RPG series would be nice. Something that breaks the standard mold. Or they could just fucking translate the SaGa games FFS and get even more money.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:33:10 No.2475497 >>2475480 Nah you guys are just unbelievably cynical and don't enjoy anything

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:33:42 No.2475498 >>2475496 no one cares about saga outside of /vr/

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:43:01 No.2475508 File: 987 KB, 450x337, ohno.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just realized they'll probably replace the entire soundtrack with generic orchestra renditions.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:44:40 No.2475512 >>2475508 Or messy, over-produced noise like Crisis Core's soundtrack.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:46:47 No.2475514 >>2475508 I don't know how to feel about that, most of the better tracks have already been orchestrated.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:46:55 No.2475515 At least SE can never fuck up IX, because they've forgotten it exists.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:47:55 No.2475516 File: 25 KB, 312x290, 1417301993869.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475508 >buttrock and metal covers

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:55:50 No.2475523 >>2473628 REMAKE != RETRO

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 12:58:31 No.2475525

Of course, they're gonna fuck this up. It's modern Square Enix. Not to mention that Nomura's name being attached to this project doesn't exactly give me any hope. This whole thing can only go 2 ways.

Either the hardcore 7 fans delude themselves that it's just as perfect as the original. The game sells well and Square goes back to what they do now or God forbid they make 5 more 7 sequels.

Or the fans create the biggest FF shitstorm ever for the defilement of their precious 7, which hopefully makes Square Enix go bankrupt (realistically they won't because Murphy.)

How much are you willing to bet they'll fill it up with DLC and pointless microtransactions? Their track record with stuff like 7's Steam version and All the Bravest certainly points in that direction.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 13:09:48 No.2475540 >>2475525 Imagine if they made reviving aerithsh as dlc. They'd make millions!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 13:26:00 No.2475552 >>2474261 >I'd like to see a new PS4 Mana game with multiplayer just like SoM or SD3, that'd be pretty fun I think. I like the way you think.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 13:27:45 No.2475554 >>2475523 Fuck off. We're on a board with people who are very well acquainted with FF7.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 13:30:18 No.2475560 >>2475525 Obviously costumes would be there >inevitable AC/KH outfits >tifa cowgirl complete with pantie shots during combat muh dick

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 14:30:47 No.2475652 >>2475515 It's more about the fact that Nomura didn't work on it, so he doesn't care about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 14:41:07 No.2475660 Calm your tits. 1.-Nomura could fuck up the game by adding FF13 gameplay 2.- If you're lucky SE will start the development in 2019 Remakes are so stupid I swear.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 14:59:23 No.2475684 >>2475525 >This whole thing can only go 2 ways. >either the fans like it >or they don't Bravo Captain Obvious.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 15:02:54 No.2475692 the massive hype for this remake almost seem strange. I know its the most popular jrpg of the 90s but its been 18 years, how many of todays gamers have even played the original?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 15:15:43 No.2475708 Is Lightning confirmed?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 15:24:04 No.2475723 >>2475692 I feel kinda bad for ignoring FFVII due to all the edgy Cloud fans in 2005~2007. I guess most people forgot about it now.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 15:32:59 No.2475730 >>2475097 The meteor (and everything else, really) is made of individual tiles, and they used bilinear interpolation to scale them up to the output resolution. When you do that, you tend to get seams.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 16:48:08 No.2475883 Anybody feel like raging today? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieB51rHpQ4Q

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 16:58:01 No.2475907 >>2475338 Jesus Christ this picture is accurate. What the fuck happened to Cloud? >>2473630 I bet you feel like an idiot right now.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:03:08 No.2475924

I'm fully expecting Cloud's character to be emo'd up to be more like his AC and KH versions.

I'm fully expecting Tifa's tits to be smaller.

I'm fully expecting Sephiroth to be the edgiest edgelord that ever edged.

I'm going in assuming the worst.

I'm going in assuming the absolute worst.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:08:48 No.2475942 >>2475883 >that shaky phone cam I'm raging alright.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:20:43 No.2475964

>>2475730
No, no, filtering just an effect you apply after you scale the images up/down. They just wrote shitty code that didn't resize or align the images properly. The size of the tiles didn't scale in exact proportion to the scaled-up positions of the tiles, which can happen when you use only integers to do calculations. It's a newbie app developer mistake. I can't believe a company like SE would release this kind of low quality shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:32:22 No.2475983 File: 2.06 MB, 2140x1519, FinalFantasy_XIII-2_Logo (1).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2473730 I do Anon. In fact, I don't think most of the FF franchise is bad at all. I absolutely loved XIII. braces for impact

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:32:27 No.2475984 File: 10 KB, 262x255, cat-ugh i hate this gay earth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475924 Probably all safe assumptions..It's become too easy to ruin shit

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:34:54 No.2475992 >>2475983 I know that is XIII-2's logo, but I'm talking about the whole XIII series.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:45:12 No.2476016

>Come into this thread expecting overjoyed FF fans
>get endless snark and gnashing of teeth

Jesus, you sourpuss sadsacks, did Square Enix rape you or something? This is the single most requested remake in video game history, I thought you'd be happy about it.

You fuckers have lost touch. Maybe completely.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:45:18 No.2476017 >>2475883 >Holding camera vertically. >Garbage brightness levels. >Screaming obnoxiously and spouting stupid one-liners. Jesus Christ.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:50:16 No.2476032

>>2475984
Honestly, even if they did all that, I wouldn't call it ruined.

The biggest thing I'm worried about is the gameplay. Like it or not, most people consider FF7 and turn based mechanics to be super dated, so there's no way they're just going to leave it unchanged.

I just hope the game is fun to play. That's it. The most basic of expectations.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:50:35 No.2476034

>>2476016
I think most of are just want a FFVII with updated graphics maybe new features.

Chances are some reports are they will Advent Children some elements into the game, add some stuff to the story that shouldn't be there, change characters etc etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:52:16 No.2476041 >>2476034 who gives a shit just dont play the new one if you dont want new stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:54:05 No.2476049 >>2476041 The best way I can explain it, without playing FFVII today in my memory I have a vivid pictures and amazing graphics in my head of what I thought FFVII looked like as a kid. I remember being blown away. I'd like to feel that again.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:57:13 No.2476056 File: 36 KB, 251x251, black5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2475924 >the edgiest edgelord that ever edged.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 17:58:19 No.2476060 >>2476016 Go to bed kid, school isn't over yet.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:00:27 No.2476063 >>2475692 Most of the people hyped for this are either idiots overjoyed for a "PS4 exclusive" or FF "fans" who only played from 8/10 onward and know 7 only by the rest of the compilation, at least on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:01:51 No.2476065 >>2476041 >duuuh if you don't like it don't play it Are you usually this retarded or is today a special day?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:03:00 No.2476069 >>2475290 >I don't really care, because I don't have a PS4, and never will and thus won't play it. It's only a timed exclusive, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:04:37 No.2476071 >>2475480 >>2475497 /v/ is the same. It's just children (either mentally or literally) being hyped for a new expensive toy. Ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:04:38 No.2476072 Confirmed for PS4 and PC ONLY. KEK

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:05:05 No.2476074

>>2476034
Personally, if's just a straight 1:1 remake with improved art assets, I will be incredibly disappointed.

To be honest, I'd rather have something that's mechanically totally different, so that will the original can still stand on it's own, and this can be it's own new thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:06:11 No.2476076 >>2476074 There's no risk either way. Has there ever been a remake who overshadowed the original in the videogame world?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:08:52 No.2476084 >>2476076 You have a good point, but there also has never been a remake of this caliber or high-expectation.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:13:00 No.2476096

>>2476076
The 3DS remakes of OoT and MM are pretty much just the original games with a bunch of refinements. Also Wind Waker HD.

I dunno, if it's just a 1:1 remake, I probably won't even bother buying it.

If it's something that's mechanically different, I will absolutely buy it.

And really, we're talking about the difference between like a $20 digital download title with maybe a limited physical release, and a full price retail game.

Personally, I think FFVII deserves the very best. And the very best isn't just a lazy 1:1 remake with new assets.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:13:46 No.2476101 not purple enough

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:13:47 No.2476102 >>2476076 The new generation of gamers will view the FF7 remake, with its Advent Children-style graphics, as the only version of FF7 that's playable. It's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:14:14 No.2476106 >>2476076 Resident Evil's Gamecube remake is objectively superior to the Playstation version, unless you're into really campy dialogue.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:15:51 No.2476109

>>2475480
Reddit as a community is based around the approval of your peers. If you make a good comment that people like, they will award it with upvotes. The comments they don't like gets downvoted.
This means any critique will get downvoted to shit and only the positive stuff is shown. It's a reasonable system for content sharing, which the site was built for, but when applied to a discussion forum it's downright frightening.
Say what you want about 4chan. We can get overly pessimistic, hateful and retarded from time to time, but at least we can hold actual flowing conversations and give room for everyones opinions to exist.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:18:05 No.2476115 >>2476076 >Has there ever been a remake who overshadowed the original in the videogame world? Star Fox 64

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:20:15 No.2476124

>>2476096
>>2476106
No no I meant among the audience.
None of those games were forgotten or toss apart because of the remakes.

>Personally, I think FFVII deserves the very best. And the very best isn't just a lazy 1:1 remake with new assets.
Considering what S-E came up with in the compilation, I'd rather have the 1:1 remake than Genesis as a super secret boss.

>>2476102
I don't think so, unless the gameplay changes radically. This is the generation of the hand holding and "press X to win", no way even the remake will be that popular among them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:21:37 No.2476129 >>2476076 >Has there ever been a remake who overshadowed the original in the videogame world? theres the tales of destiny remake

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:22:22 No.2476134 >>2476124 FF7 is a game designed to be beaten by children and girls. It isn't far off from "press X to win".

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:23:04 No.2476135 FFVII is shit, and the only reason you love it so much is because it was babby's first.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:23:10 No.2476136 >>2476129 Original Tales of Destiny is better. Sad thing is, any time I search for anything related to Tales of Destiny only the remake comes up.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:23:27 No.2476137 File: 31 KB, 514x216, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And all hope is fucking gone. Good job Square.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:24:15 No.2476140

>>2476124
Not forgotten, no, but for many games, if I want to play a certain game again, I just go for the remake.

Ever since Metroid: Zero Mission came out, I haven't even touched the original Metroid.

Also, FF7 isn't a particularly challenging game. You can beat the game without even using materia, and it's not exactly hard to do so.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:25:17 No.2476143 >>2476137 This is what I want. Thank you Square, you have saved Final Fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:25:36 No.2476146 >>2476137 It was to be expected from S-E. Well everybody can go to bed, the remake will be shit, nothing to see here.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:25:38 No.2476147 File: 84 KB, 245x316, 1434341120260.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2476137 >XV battle FUCK FUCK FUCKKKKKKKKK How do you fuck up a simple turn based?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:26:46 No.2476149 File: 33 KB, 177x170, ren.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2476137

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:26:47 No.2476150 >>2476140 >>2476134 I think you people underestimate how lazy the mainstream audience of vgs can get nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:27:30 No.2476152 >>2473646 >At least a remake usually isn't worse Arguable.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:28:21 No.2476154 >>2475883 That hurts so bad...

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:29:01 No.2476157

>>2476137
What the fuck is the reasoning for this?

A. They are lazy as fuck and don't want to build re-build old system so just borrow from newer game

B. Kids today are fucking assholes who can't bother to sit and wait for turn base.

C. STANDING AROUND IS BORING, THEY NEED TO ALWAYS BE DOING SOMETHING

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:29:39 No.2476161

>>2476149
>>2476147
>>2476146

>wanting generic and slow as shit turn based battles

Fuck all of you, this is why there are no JRPGs anymore, you just shit on anything new developers try to do.

XV's battle system is fantastic, and if it also has the gigantic open areas as well, that will be amazing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:30:10 No.2476164 >>2474386 >Advent Children Stop it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:32:22 No.2476168 >>2476137 I call bullshit. Can't find this on twitter.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:32:39 No.2476169 >>2476161 >this is why there are no JRPGs anymore This is a remake of an old game, why change the battle system at all? Remember when REmake got rid of the tank controls...oh wait.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:33:01 No.2476170 >>2476137 Well, I already didn't want a remake, but now I might just rent it to see how it turns out.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:33:02 No.2476171 >>2476168 it's fake

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:33:54 No.2476172 File: 31 KB, 189x196, 1404913573763.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2476137 The hype is over

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:35:42 No.2476175 >>2476161 Kiddo please go back to /v/ and stay there.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:37:08 No.2476179

>>2476137
But since battle system is like 75% of the gameplay of an JRPG, how the fuck is this a remake if they're just exchanging it completely? Just because the story is the same?
It'd be like Nintendo making a remake of Ocarina of Time with the same plot, but in the form of a shooter.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:37:47 No.2476180 >>2476179 >gameplay >jrpg also that twitt is fake

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:37:52 No.2476181 >>2476161 >XV's battle system is fantastic >and if it also has the gigantic open areas as well, that will be amazing. Also remaster the whole ost with dubstep

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:39:24 No.2476183 >>2476180 Yes, gameplay. There is usually a heavy focus on story, but the gameplay usually consists of engaging in battle with enemies. This takes up majority of the time playing the game.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:40:07 No.2476186

>>2476169
Remember when Metroid: Zero Mission improved upon the original game in every single way?

Also, REmake HD has an option for full analog control.

>>2476175
I haven't been to /v/ in years. I like old games, but I'm also willing to admit that some mechanics have no business leaving the time period they are in.

Progress needs to be made. Turn based had it's time, but it's fucking pointless now. It was made because RPGs were originally modeled after DnD and tabletop RPGs, and hardware limitations.

Even RPGs going back to the SNES were making efforts to get rid of turn based combat.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:41:18 No.2476187 >>2476183 lmao you guys are fucking hypocrites, any other day on /vr/ and you'd be whining about the lack of challenge on the atb system.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:42:21 No.2476190 >>2476186 The keyword here is improvement.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:46:43 No.2476197

>>2476187
FF7 is actually not really just mash O to win.

Theres a lot of materia customizations you can do (Cover+CounterAttack is fairly early, Elemental+Armor for resistances/weakness exploit, Added Effect-Status for resistance/weakness exploits) , theres a lot of gear and spell combinations (Like casting Death-Sentence on Tifa with Powersoul for damage multipliers). Its actually solid all around and you will almost always preform better with smart setups and utilizing magic and summons then just mashing attack. Although attack is quite powerful.

I will admit that outside of a handful of bosses that require special tactics, FF7 is pretty easy, but thats not a bad thing. Do you want to have to fucking grind for hours like in Breath of Fire or Legend of Dragoon, or Legend of Legaia? I don't enjoy being forced to grind just to be able to stand a chance at a difficult boss, but thats pretty much what you have to do in the above. As long as you're fighting enemies as they come in any Final Fantasy you're almost always well equipped to take on the games challenges.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:50:00 No.2476209 >>2476187 Shhh, nobody's supposed to know that the entirety of 4chan consists of two people talking to each other!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:55:31 No.2476224 >>2476197 So what you're saying is video games should be fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:59:29 No.2476234 >>2476209 I thought the only jayperguers you approved were the original nes final fantasy and dragon quest.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 18:59:38 No.2476235 >>2473646 >At least a remake usually isn't worse. Dohoho

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 19:03:04 No.2476239 >>2476129 Tales of Phantasia on PSX and PSP

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 19:04:55 No.2476247 >>2473673 >Xenoblade are already 100x more the FF than FFXV could ever hope to be. That's not an accomplishment.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 19:15:49 No.2476258 "... to celebrate its 20 year anniversary " So, 2017 release date then? Wow, they are that far along?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 19:28:42 No.2476283 >>2475480 What's a reddit?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 19:33:02 No.2476296 >>2475480 because we are not here to be seen, we are here to be heard.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 19:34:03 No.2476297 >>2475525 i cant wait for all the 3D hentai thats gonna come out because of its compatibility with Steam Movie Maker

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:00:38 No.2476325 >>2476071 incredibly presumptuous and arrogant.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:02:03 No.2476329 >>2476115 Definitely not a remake

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:04:53 No.2476335

>>2476197
>FF7 is actually not really just mash O to win.

Well, I think someone on some forum tested this. You can get pretty far in disk 1 by just mashing attack and limits. It is kinda easy.

The materia system is really neat and complex, but most of it is not needed. Throw cure all materia on someone and you could beat the entire game with just that, plus some ethers and phoenix downs.

Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:17:32 No.2476351

>>2476234
That's /vr/, the board who prefers Final Fight 1 to any Streets of Rage, and the original nes Castlevania over anything that came after.

Not because they're "better" games, but because they're bullshit hard and super hardcore, and beating those games makes them the reeel gaymerz.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:23:59 No.2476364 >>2476137 Its amazing looking at the amount of people that fell for the bait.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:25:37 No.2476369 >>2476136 You can't be serious right?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:36:22 No.2476381 http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-it-seems-like-final-fantasy-7s-remake-wont-lose-so-much-of-the-crazy >And how about Cloud in a dress in stunning HD? 'Please look forward to it', says Nomura.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Jun 16, 2015 20:39:04 No.2476386 >>2476351 You speak like a Kotaku reader, nobody is going to take you seriously. Not that you deserve it anyway.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 14:01:10 No.2477739

http://www gamespot com/articles/final-fantasy-7-remake-s-story-could-deviate-from-/1100-6428247/

>"“We’ve announced an HD port version on the PlayStation 4, and then we have the remake coming to PS4,” Nomura said through a translator. “You’ll have this extremely, very, very pretty FFVII existing on the same plane. We feel that if that happens, it’s like, why have the same exact game?"

Expect a reboot, not a remake.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 14:02:46 No.2477741 >>2476386 you speak like you're butthurt

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 14:05:02 No.2477745 I wonder if the battle+materia system is 1:1 with the original..

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 14:29:04 No.2477785 >>2477745 Not likely. See >>2477739

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 15:41:28 No.2477915

>>2476335
Well disc 1 is just disc 1. I think it becomes sufficiently difficult later on that you need to use materia and strategy, at least to win easily. Of course you can just rely on attacks and limits if you power up enough but then you would die a lot in the process.

I think FF7 gives enough incentive to not rely on O

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 15:52:29 No.2477942

>>2477739
Considering how much of FFs story got fucked sideways and how some parts were very poorly explained (namely how you're actually following Jenova for most of the game and not Sephiroth), I can see them saying "Let's expand on the story and get it how we originally wanted to."

>>2477915
Disk 1 is like 60-% of the game.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:02:57 No.2477962

>>2477739
I suspect they're talking more about changing mechanics and less about story, although there are some things that simply won't work this time around--Red XIII in a soldier's uniform for example. /v/ types will cry foul over issues like a new combat system and perceived ease or difficulty, but that majority of fans would respond most negatively to major story and character changes. I think they'll get satisfy their game-dev creative impulses with gameplay and new cinematic, but resist the temptation to change too much of what has made the game last this long in the minds of fans (hint: it's not the combat).

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:12:06 No.2477984 >>2477942 Is it really that much? I haven't beaten FF7 in years but I remember (could be remembering wrong) Disc 1 ending a little while after Aeris death which itself was actually surprisingly early on.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:25:12 No.2478017 >>2477984 Optional content aside (especially chocobos), yeah, disk 1 is the longest, disk 3 starts you at the final dungeon.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:25:31 No.2478020

>>2475267
this is a good post and i can almost fully get behind it.

the things that made me like this game, warts and all, are the things no modern remake can replicate. the relative goofiness of the prerendered backgrounds illustrating a somewhat earnest and serious story played out by superdeformed characters. i know the music gets shit on for its technical qualities, but i digged the sound textures the less-then-stellar knowledge of the sound chip produced.

there's a bunch of shit you can criticize the game for (and personally i'm giving it a 7/10), but as a product of its time it's precious. a remake doesn't have that advantage, and imagining nomura's ps3+ generation flesh puppets acting out a final fantasy 7 story played straight... ugh.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:38:54 No.2478047 >>2477942 >2477942 Its pretty obvious you're following Jenova, since he tells you that Jenova is known for changing forms. Plus you're always fighting Jenova-X not Sephiroth-X.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:46:16 No.2478059

>>2475267
I liked AC when it came out because it was cool. I didn't give a shit about the story because its 90% fight scenes anyways. I couldn't even tell you what the story was anyways, something about people getting Mako poisoning or something which I don't even remember if it gets resolved or not.

Fact is, as a popcorn-eye candy flick to someone who was a fan of videogames it was alright. I agree that the shit that came out of it like CC and the "new" FF7 retconned lore is dumb as fuck, but AC is alright if you just wanted some eye candy.

I have high hopes, but low expectations for the new FF7. FF7 is pretty ridiculous all throughout but I think pacing wise its actually fucking spot on. You don't have endless dungeons and require dozens of level ups to get through.

Hell, Temple of the Ancients is like 6 or 7 screens and its still super memorable.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:47:16 No.2478060 >>2478020 This is also my opinion. Like many wonderful things, FF7 was a specific product of its time. Attempts to recreate that without the context are doomed to fail. Also, Nomura was the worst thing to happen to the franchise.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:51:44 No.2478068

>>2477915
>>2476335
See how far you get at a boss like Schizo with Cure-All on someone and just attacking.

The great thing about FF7 is it gives you a lot of tools that are really general purpose. Elemental Materia can let you exploit weaknesses OR if you put it in armor, give you really high resistances. The command materia (especially Enemy skill) are very strong with things like Mug, and Deathblow.

As I'm replaying the most fun I've had so far is this setup:

Tifa with Powersoul weapon.
She has a shitload of HP Plus so she's got a reasonable amount of hp, but she stays in yellow which gives her a damage multiplier because of Powersoul.
Cast Death Sentence on her.
Use Big Guard immediately after to get Haste.
Deathblow Materia paired with Added Cut.

At fairly low level I was doing 8000 damage from a connected deathblow with a 4000 damage extra hit from the added cut.

I basically 3 shot Jenova-Death this way.

I just got the Cursed ring, which gives a shitload of stats and starts you with Death Sentence so she should be even more powerful. Of course I can't use her until Cloud becomes unretarded which should happen sometime tonight.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 16:57:12 No.2478073

>>2474546
This was more the VA's fault. It was FF's first venture into fully voiced characters and they had waited for a reason. The problem was they never really learned from their PS1 brethren in that more money should be spent on this sort of thing.

>>2475523
We've always included ports, remakes, and occasionally sequels when needed to be mentioned. Fuck off.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:06:12 No.2478090

>>2473641
Never saw Advent Children. The character models are just fine to me, the problem I have with the game is the same problem I have with VIII and IX and plenty of other PS RPGs that had prerendered backgrounds, I can't tell what the fuck is going on because those shitty jpg background images are such low quality.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:09:01 No.2478094 >>2478090 Time to get some glasses I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:09:58 No.2478095 >>2478090 >those shitty jpg background images are such low quality. Fyi, those are uncompressed raster images, probably TIMs. Not jpegs.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:11:35 No.2478098

>>2473641
I'll probably always favor the original backgrounds.

The main draw here for me is that we'll most likely get a full retranslation, the good kind and not shit like the fan one. As long as we don't end up getting major retcons like writing Cloud as Squall forever, I'll buy it for that anyday.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:13:00 No.2478103
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>>2478095
Close enough.

>>2478094
Really, it's hard to tell where you can and can't go. It's the same problem lots of shitty NES and SNES games had, where you can't tell where the boundaries are, what's a platform and what's decoration.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:13:54 No.2478106 >>2478098 Sadly friend, thats exactly what we will get. We're going to get Cloud screaming about Sephiroth while he's riding the damn rope train to the gold saucer.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:14:03 No.2478107 >>2478098 >The main draw here for me is that we'll most likely get a full retranslation Except they're going to keep the "iconic" lines. I'd be willing to bet money I don't even have that THIS GUY ARE SICK is still going to be in the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:15:14 No.2478112 >>2478107 It's possible that they might use it like Spoony Bard. Only difference is Spoony Bard actually made sense in the context.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:16:21 No.2478113 >>2478112 It's going to be Garland knocking them all down, not spoony bard.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:24:41 No.2478123

>>2478106
Also, Sephiroth will develop an obsession with CUROUDO, when in the original game he hardly gave a shit about him, and only saw him as a tool, which is why he fucked with him during the Northern Glacier episode to break him into doing his bidding.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:26:45 No.2478130 >>2478123 Yeah its pretty funny. Clouds like "Lol I'm not listening" meanwhile Tifa is having a fucking breakdown. That is easily one of the most laughable scenes in the game.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:35:32 No.2478146

You guys think they will change the battle system?

How will they handle Aeris death?

Will they cheese it up? Make it more dramatic than it needs to be?

Will Barrett look like a real black man unlike he did in AC movie?

Will people be okay with the character models they use?

Will Sephiroth and Cloud look super feminine again?

I don't know guys. On one hand I really want to see how this remake turns out. On the other hand I'm afraid a lot of stuff is going to upset people regardless. I am hyped, curious, confused, scared, happy, sad, and many other emotions all at once.

So many questions I could ask Square. I just really hope they handle this as well as possible. I hope that no matter what, they understand they will upset somebody and that's going to have to be okay as long as they stay mostly true to the original.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:40:26 No.2478156

>>2478146
It wouldn't surprise me if they cut out a lot of content. Some shit is just fairly irrelevant. Does Barrets backstory -really- make or break the game? It seems like that entire Gold Saucer bit is tacked on, same with the Gi Cave in Cosmo Canyon. Same with the chocobo lure and Midgar Zolom.

It wouldn't surprise me if they cut out the Huge Materia bits too, and you instead did some weird flashback sequence as Cloud in its place.

You have to have incredibly low expectations I feel. If you go in expecting the world your hopes and dreams are going to be crushed by Meteor

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 17:41:50 No.2478162 >>2478146 Yes and Nomura will fuck the story. The hype is dead for me, I understand that the youngest are excited about this because FF VII looks dated for them, but for a guy that played this when it released this is heresy.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 18:19:11 No.2478251 >>2478162 Does anyone know if the HD port is going to have anything done to the backgrounds?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 18:21:55 No.2478262 >>2478251 Everything needs to match the intro video they made. It's either they're completely redone or use shitty pixelated versions like in the PC port. The backgrounds are going to be completely redone for sure.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 18:25:07 No.2478278

>>2478146
As far as changes go, I want to know most of all how much they're going to put in Crisis Core. It needs to be dealt with, if nothing else through Vincent in an optional ref.

If they don't do anything, they're going to have a lot of explaining to do with canon because of how different the sequels are to the original.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 18:26:32 No.2478284 >>2478262 Can you link the video you're talking about please? Sorry, I didn't catch this stuff when it was first announced.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 19:00:17 No.2478362 >>2478278 It should be ignored, like all the awful compilation crap.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 23:15:43 No.2478797

>>2478156
>>2478162
>>2478278
Well there's a /v/ thread up about this link.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/06/17/final-fantasy-vii-remake-interview-e3-2015/

As I said, people are guaranteed to be upset. I really think it's going to be a huge shame if they go with action combat. Even FFXII or XIII like combat won't be suitable imo. I think they really should keep it mostly the same only enhanced a bit.

It's going to be a very tough remake to do regardless. It's not as simple as say remaking Halo CE or a 2D Metroid game. FFVII is probably going to be the toughest remake to get right that this industry is ever going to see. So many people they must please. So much they can get wrong. At the very least this is going to be extremely entertaining to see it's development unfold.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 23:41:19 No.2478834 File: 366 KB, 850x595, At rest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FF6 deserved it more, but, you know, money. I'm still kinda hype.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 23:49:17 No.2478841

>>2478834
>FF6 deserved it more
I think FF6 isn't that impressive honestly.

About the only thing it did was the World of Balance vs. World of Ruin (which FF5 did before it) and having a shitload of characters (most of which, were pretty shit). Magicite was interesting, but it ended up being a shitty version of Materia and you still had to rely on individual characters abilities (which, when paired with what I said earlier, where most characters abilities were pretty shit (outside of a few standouts like Tools, Blitz, Mime (for tools and blitz)) combined with the fact you're constantly forced to use a very assigned party for most of the game and its just very meh.

FF5 had more customization because it had a set party and way more options that you could level on each character simultaneously unlike FF6. FF4 didn't mess around with any of that and just gave everyone their own skillsets. FF7 basically took the good from all of them and made skills 100% transferable so when you were forced to use Barret, Red XIII, Aeris, and Cid, you weren't completely crippled if they werent in your main party. Which is really fucking good, especially when you're forced to use different party members at fairly regular intervals. The same goes for FF8, but people just didn't "get" Junction, I guess because it wasn't pretty marbles in holes or something.

Anonymous Wed, Jun 17, 2015 23:54:14 No.2478847

>>2478841
>and having a shitload of characters (most of which, were pretty shit
I heartily disagree. But you are definitely entitled to your opinion.

FF6's main gameplay problem came from the way it handled stats. Magic was literally the only stat you ever needed to worry about.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:02:15 No.2478853 >>2478847 That is absolutely wrong. M evade was an incredibly useful stat.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:06:53 No.2478861

>>2478841
this. this is exactly why I loved FF5 (and to a lesser extent FF3) the most. deep customization and the almost same 4-man party throughout the game, so you're pretty much free to do whatever you want. which is basically a rare "gameplay in a JRPG" gem.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:08:40 No.2478863 So are they still bothering with that earlier FF7 port they announced? The one that drove everyone crazy?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:10:10 No.2478867 >>2478834 FF6 has aged much better though. The audiovisuals and gameplay are timeless. The combat in 7 is slow and tedious, made worse by the slow hardware and disc load times, and the 3d models/backgrounds have a nice look but are low res as hell.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:12:22 No.2478868

>>2478847

Actually if you maxed speed in FF6 it made it so you were basically permanently hasted.

If anything the stat priority is something like: Speed > Magic > Strength > Stamina.

Strength would be higher if it wasn't so obvious that most of your physical damage is based on the level curving, IE you can use the level reset glitch and have 9999 hp at like level 50 and still only do 2k damage with ultima / atma weapon

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:12:45 No.2478869 >>2478867 Battles is 7 last as long as those in 6. There's a slider in the menu to increase speed.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:14:56 No.2478874 >>2478867 I'll never understand how people who have any concept of attention span can say that it's slow

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:14:59 No.2478875 >>2478863 Yes. FF7 original in HD. FF7 remake. Both on PS4. FF7 remake is potentially going to be multi-plat. I believe it was "play it first on PS4" so that may be limited exclusivity.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:17:54 No.2478878

>>2478867
>>2478869
>>2478874

FF9 is "slow". Its the only FF I consider to be unbearable.

FF7 battles can be finished in one casting of Aqualung or Trine in most cases.

If you're smart in battles they can end in 1-3 or less turns per character. Including some boss fights, which when you know about broken strategies can go from fairly long and tedious to near OHKO's.

FF6's fans are way more vocal then its dissenters. People like to hate on FF7 because its more popular.

I would play FF7 over 6 any day of the week.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:18:31 No.2478881

>>2478874
The ATB system has obviously always been the main problem, but the ps1 FF games are even slower thanks to the hardware and overuse of cinematic effects. 9 was the worst, you often had to wait upwards of 10 seconds at the start of every random encounter before you could even start inputting commands.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:20:32 No.2478885 >still caring about the original Barely Interactive Movie RPG: Angst and Bawwing Over Dead Waifu Edition Jesus fuck, kids.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:36:12 No.2478908
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>>2477942
>>2477962
Yeah, the people who in the span of 3 games, 2 movies and a bunch of novels just came up with OC Donut Steels will surely just fix what didn't work the first time, no worries!
I swear this level of delusion can only be born out of clinical mental retardation.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:37:57 No.2478910

>>2478068

Yeah the materia system has a pretty impressive level of depth.

My first few times playing FF7 I'd come across shit and be like "whats the point of this shit?" only to later find out that some things exist just to pair up with other materia.

That's when FF7 gets fun, figuring out all the ways you can play with its mechanics, even though you could easily beat the game and even the weapons with just basic materia set ups.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:48:08 No.2478927

>>2478797
>"But we can't have these upgraded, beautiful 3D models of Cloud and Barrett, still lining up in a row, jumping forward to attack an enemy, then jumping back to wait for their next turn. That would be bizarre. Of course there will likely be changes there."

Sooo.... combat engine will be nothing like FF7. Great, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:52:51 No.2478938 >>2478927 Could be more... Chrono Trigger Tier where the monsters and characters move around a bit... But I expect a Kingdom Hearts/FFXV style.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:53:30 No.2478939

I could probably live with something like FF13s battle system, but I don't know about going the KH route like XV is, that's just not final fantasy enough for me.

You won't ever see dragon quest games throw away its identity, why should final fantasy?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:55:35 No.2478942 >>2478939 Because it already did almost 15 years ago? FFX was the last one that could reasonably considered part of the main series. That fact that is boring and has little gameplay makes it not very good, but it is recognizable.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 00:55:47 No.2478943 >>2478834 Wait a minute here? Celes had a horn on her head this whole time? Why didn't I ever notice that? I could have swore she had nothing but hair last time I played it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 01:11:54 No.2478969 >>2478943 Yeah, to be honest, I can't recall what part of the game that sprite comes from, either. I think it's supposed to be a hat, though.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 08:23:58 No.2479419

>>2474642
>Compilation Of FF7
>forgetting Zack's entire character and the beach scene where he fights off Genesis clones with a beach parasol
>forgetting the NPC dialogue where everyone shits on Genesis for loving that awful play
>even forgetting dilly-dally-shilly-shally

Are the Compilation titles darker overall and of lesser quality? Sure. But let's not lie to everyone and say they were devoid of humor.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 08:46:39 No.2479439 >>2475692 basically everyone, and people in their 30s and 40s still play games even though they pretend they don't

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 08:46:39 No.2479440

>>2478060

>Also, Nomura was the worst thing to happen to the franchise.

I know this is /vr/, but you'd expect people to put a check on how much nostalgia clouds their judgment. Thinking Nomura is the worst thing to happen is flat out retarded. His primary role for a huge part of the franchise was a monster and character designer. His biggest contribution before he was given the opportunity to direct XV(which was originally a spinoff, not even mainline) was slight story direction, where he chimed in and said the best character to kill would be Aerith.

If you don't like his fuccboi character designs but still somehow like Amano, then that's fine. But he's not important in the grand scheme of things.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 09:06:11 No.2479454 >>2478834 Maybe except no one cares about ff6

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 10:53:42 No.2479563

>>2478103
>Really, it's hard to tell where you can and can't go. It's the same problem lots of shitty NES and SNES games had, where you can't tell where the boundaries are, what's a platform and what's decoration.
This is precisely why I want a remake. I dont believe true classics need remakes but I want a FF7 remake because the graphicd make it hard to navigate and even to find items.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:30:27 No.2479625 >>2478834 ff6 remake for 3ds when

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:38:34 No.2479642 So have the prices for FF7 sky rocketed back up to 75$ like in 2009 yet? since the announcement? I imagine a mass-amount of plebs trying to play it to fit it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:39:35 No.2479645 >>2479642 Then again, its on the Playstation online store now, so it probably won't rise that high again.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:45:41 No.2479653 File: 15 KB, 265x297, reactionimage10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2478797

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 11:48:04 No.2479654 >>2478927 Oooor They're retooling the battle animation so it doesn't look as stupid with the HD models. You people always assume the worst, and not even in an intelligent way.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 12:22:59 No.2479708

At the end of the day the original will always exist.

You can make a case that a remake shouldn't be a 1:1 of the original game anyway, just like in film, it should have its own flair that sets it apart from the original.

If handled properly it could be good AND different from the original, delivering a new experience. However if it ends up sucking as predicted by many, we always have the original, so it does not matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 12:38:17 No.2479739 >>2479708 In 20 years, the remake will be looked back upon as FF7 and the original will be ignored or thought of as "that bad one with ugly graphics."

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 12:43:27 No.2479749 >>2479739 Horrifying, but unlikely. This is the exact same thing as Twin Snakes. No one even really talks about that anymore.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 12:49:55 No.2479767

>>2479749
Because unlike the Resident Evil Remake, Twin Snakes fucked up a lot of shit.

The cutscenes all got Modern Kojima'd. The voice acting feels more drab and uninspired. Story and Cutscene wise it feels like highschool fanfiction when compared to the original.

If it wasn't so nipped up Twin Snakes would've been objectively the better MGS, like REmake is objectively the superior Resident Evil. But it just got so fucking stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 13:11:24 No.2479786 >>2478938 >>2478927 >>2479654 Keep in mind, we haven't seen a scrap of actual gameplay footage. Just a cutscene.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 13:13:02 No.2479789 >>2479642 Between the PC port being released on PS4, the Steam version, and PSN, I doubt we'll see it go up that high. I could be wrong though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 13:15:48 No.2479791 >>2479786 to be honest, i doubt we will ever see it. they haven't even started producing it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 13:16:29 No.2479792 >>2478797 >I thought the PS4 special edition was already out I don't blame him for thinking that, he realizes as much as we do that it was a quick and dirty cash-in. It would've been hilarious if he didn't even know it existed though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 13:55:16 No.2479834 >>2478797 FF12 and 13 combat systems were thr best thing to happen to final fantasy in years. For the first time since 2 the combat was actually consistently challenging.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 14:11:10 No.2479856

>>2479834

I don't get why people dislike FF13s battle system, its basically the same ATB system but the characters move around to make it more fluid and believable.

I guess people hate it because the game auto selects your attacks based on enemy weaknesses? The thing was that 13s battle system was largely more about managing the paradigms and not simply inputting commands, as with the pace of the game doing both would be overwhelming.

I can kind of see why people dislike 12s battle system, though I liked it, it has a lot in common with FFXIs style of combat, and being an MMO that probably turned some people off. Plus some people saw the gambits as making the game play itself, which is untrue, but whatever I guess...no one said shit about dragon age origin despite basically stealing the gambit system 1:1.

Anyways, If they stayed with the original battle system I would be fine with it, but if they wanted to add in a modern FF battle system I would at least be open minded about it going in.

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 14:24:04 No.2479881

>>2479856
>I don't get why people dislike FF13s battle system
13's battle system is god tier in terms of what jRPGs have done

Playing 13 and only leveling up the Chrystarium when I absolutely needed to was the most fun I'd had from a Final Fantasy... well, ever. I think I made it to chapter 7 before I needed to level up

Anonymous Thu, Jun 18, 2015 15:46:40 No.2480001

>>2478910
This is one of the reasons I have wanted to see a remake. Imagine if they are able to enhance the combat system? Imagine if they can better balance materia, make maybe a harder difficulty mode and have more materia with more ways to combine them into new strategies?

I always thought the materia system was the best thing I seen in a JRPG. It provided for a very open way to play the game. A remake can potentially refine this system into something far greater. Which I think should happen just so people can get the chance to experience it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 14:59:15 No.2481976 >>2473628 #1 this is not /vr/ take it to /v/ bud #2 New doom, new fallout, new hitman, ff7 remake. Are game devs really this lazy? Why don't they come up with a fucking original idea for once.

Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 15:08:47 No.2481990

>>2480001
>reworking of materia system
>characters don't level up and instead are customized via materia
>vastly expanded materia selection, more diverse materia covering niche situations
>use correct materia setups to gear yourself for specific challenges
>game becomes puzzle-rpg basically
>challenging, fresh gameplay
I want to believe

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 15:20:45 No.2482018 >>2481976 >#1 this is not /vr/ take it to /v/ bud Yes it is. I understand how the /vr/ rules are confusingly stated since it was made by non-gamers, but remakes, ports are /vr/..

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 15:23:33 No.2482024 >>2479881 Dude, the neon, the massive hud clutter, it just screams japanese and insane.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 15:26:17 No.2482027 >>2481990 >>2473628 Nah, keep the same gameplay. Don't want some shitty difficulty or puzzle elements.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 15:28:10 No.2482031 >>2480001 As long as some broken combos stay in the materia system. That was part of the fun of it.

Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 15:41:23 No.2482061

>>2481990
I think if they made more materia setups, maybe let you buy additional materia of certain times (like one of a kind materia via some expensive vender or something at the gold saucer)

Considering to master a Deathblow you needed like 60k AP (which takes a long ass time) to get another one you basically have to master one before getting the next one. Steal takes forever to master, and same with shit that could be really genuinely helpful like AddedEffect, Elemental, Added-Cut, 2x-Cut, SlashAll, are all huge investments.

and I really mean Huge Investments. When you can beat the game fairly easily with certain setups, having all your characters with 4x cut or Added-Cut setups is massively overkill.

I just beat it yesterday and it was the easiest I've ever done it.

Barret Uses Big Guard every fight and becomes dedicated healer.
Cloud with 9999 HP via HP+'s and Ultima Weapon with 2x cut.
Tifa with Added Cut-Deathblow Masterfist while under Death Sentence status from Cursed Ring, and Cover-Counter Attack from back row with Long Range.

The only reason Safer Sephiroth took as long as it did was because he got a Supernova off. I basically wrecked Bizarro Sephiroth in a minute.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 16:28:31 No.2482161 yo they will make it an action rpg and you know it. if they really want to release it during the ps4's lifespan, they'll streamline it as all fuck. they'll also have to figure out how to deal away with the overworld, so expect a lot of tunnels.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 17:10:48 No.2482226 File: 281 KB, 640x910, IMG_2258.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2473628 can it be ??

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 17:47:53 No.2482282 >>2474754 FFXII is amazing

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 19:11:29 No.2482419 >>2474754 The only one that sucked was 14 and they fixed it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 20:13:54 No.2482535 >>2475924 > Tifa's tits to be smaller FASFASDFASDASFASDASFASD NO

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 20:50:46 No.2482605 >>2476161 >XV's battle system is fantastic All you do is hold down a button

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 21:31:20 No.2482685 >>2482161 Or they'll have an over world like XV in which case it will be amazing

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 21:33:03 No.2482689 So many people hoping that FF7 remake takes on the combat systems from non-retro FF games, and even unironically claim to like FF13 battle engine... Is this really /vr/?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 21:37:58 No.2482694 >>2482605 How is that different than spamming X?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 21:42:01 No.2482701 >>2482689 I don't know about you but when I reached Gran Pulse I just dropped the whole game because of how painfully linear it was. Seriously, it felt like a walking movie. Worst and most unpleasant FF I played.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 21:42:57 No.2482703 >>2482689 >Is this really /vr/? No, it's /v/ spilling over.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 21:52:42 No.2482713 >>2482689 What's not to like about the battle engine? The fact that it makes the game actually challenging?

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 22:05:41 No.2482736 >>2473628 I hope it comes out on Xbox One so the PSBabbys commit seppuku

>>	Anonymous Fri, Jun 19, 2015 22:27:25 No.2482767 >>2473628 not retro

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 00:17:38 No.2482925 File: 102 KB, 592x593, 14b259849c636b6700ae598951d05521[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This part I could see being improved by voice-acting and proper cutscene graphics~

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 00:20:41 No.2482930

>>2482925
See a lot of the minigames could be updated to be really good especially since there was no dualshock controls for FF7.

Having full 3D movement and camera control with analog sticks would be nice. I think if they revamped a lot of the mechanics for the minigames it could be good. Especially if they give adequate rewards for being good at them.

I have high hopes. I do believe FF7 is a 10/10 even if its not the greatest game ever made.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 00:32:05 No.2482942 >>2482736 Way to keep up with the news, anon. >I hope a thing that has already been confirmed happens hurr hurr hurr Timed exclusive for PS4, read the fucking thread.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 01:25:53 No.2483024

>>2482713
Assuming this isn't a joke...

My 5 year old daughter beat FF13. Not in that "hyperbole on 4chan" sort of way, but in the "she really beat the game with only one death" sort of way. Death was on the last boss.

I did have to show her where to spend level points and where to set paradigms, but that was it. The game was devoid of travel choice until Grand Pulse. Devoid of equipment, leveling, and attack option choice throughout. And really the only choice to be had was "Be defensive and recover" vs "Be offensive and hurt them". The paradigms fell into these two buckets, and it never really mattered which was chosen. It was all window dressing.

... a god damn 5 year old.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 01:26:36 No.2483026 >>2483024 Nice lies

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 01:45:55 No.2483043 >>2483024 Young kids can be pretty tenacious. We beat a lot of pretty genuinely hard shit back in the day. I guess the question is, is FF13 worth playing?

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 09:54:29 No.2483540 >>2483024 >>2483043 Could easily said you're lying, but I remembered when I'm 6 years old, my friends bitched about contra being hard and I shoved it on their faces beating it.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 10:22:35 No.2483565

>>2483024

I beat a lot of hard shit as a kid, I mean, growing up in the NES / SNES era was filled with way more difficult games than FF13.

The trouble with believing your story isn't that a 5 year old could beat FF13, rather that she would have the attention span for a game that long.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 10:28:26 No.2483571

>>2483024
No doubt your 5 year old beat the game. I wanted to call bullshit, but then I remembered that I beat the original Final Fantasy even before I was 5, so it's probably true especially if someone showeed her how to chrystarium or did it for her. I do call bullshit on the one death though. The game lets you restart the fight immediately so whatever it doesn't matter, but some of the (are they called aeons in that game?) fights are unintuitive and not something I'd expect a 5 year old to figure out on the first try every single time. Not only that, but some of those require setups that you may not have the first time you go into the fight.

That said, the game *is* challenging if you don't chrystarium. No jrpg is hard with appropriate leveling.

>>2483043
>is FF13 worth playing?
If you can find an undub and then you disable the subtitles, fuck yes. If not, it's still ok if you don't level up. The story is probably the worst bullshit FF has ever come up with. Also, do not level up chrystarium at all. (Chrystarium lets you spend experience points you earn in battle, and if you don't spend them you never level up.) If you encounter a boss that you simply cannot beat after several tries and paradigms configurations, level up a tiny bit and try again, but really really try not to level up. You shouldn't need to level up at all until about halfway through the game.

This forces you to actually think about your paradigms and it forces you to use characters that you otherwise might not use because the default level characters have different abilities and roles that the other ones don't have. A no-level up (or as little level up as possible) run is very fun and it showcases just how good the battle system really is.

Otherwise, if you always spend all of your points or grind and play with the english dialogue and are able to understand the story it turns into a boring hallway snooze fest with intermittent pausing while the game shows you monsters and you press confirm

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 10:49:48 No.2483598

>>2483565
>The trouble with believing your story isn't that a 5 year old could beat FF13, rather that she would have the attention span for a game that long.

I was a bit surprised as well with that point, but there were two things working for her. She really liked Lightning, and I sat behind her from start to end that week. Never underestimate the power of daddy time. What's odd is, after the menu explanation, she never asked for advice until the last boss. There just wasn't choice anywhere in the game.

I got her on gaming as soon as she could hold a controller, so this wasn't babby's first game. Still though. All that talk of complex combat depth or difficulty doesn't hold water. She just played it reactive with "go defensive because your hurt while mashing auto" to "go offensive because your not hurt while mashing auto". Yeah, some fights were long with her in Solidarity or whatever it was called, but that only became a problem on the final boss when it did some sort of full party death.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 14:46:58 No.2483972 >>2474878 What did they do to explain that shit? What part of the game is it so I can look it up

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 15:58:28 No.2484109 >>2474878 Vincent's arc would have to be expanded, maybe to the point that he's no longer optional. Also there's the people who didn't die.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:03:50 No.2484117 >The PC port's port is also coming to Android I wonder how Square will fuck this up? The backgrounds will look better on a smaller screen at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:05:13 No.2484118 >>2484117 iOS was announced, not Android. Expect that in about three years, and they'll fix the slowdown by speeding up animations like FFT.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:14:42 No.2484130 >>2474502 This. The honeybee inn bubby scene would just be like watching the start of a gay porno.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:17:01 No.2484132

>>2484117

The backgrounds aren't the worst thing about the PC version. That version has so many odd bugs and quirks, while not unbearable, still make me prefer the original playstation version despite the fact that the PC has 0 load times.

>glowing eyebrows
>mouths on the field models
>missing attack particles
>music glitches
>some cutscenes seem to end too soon

I don't know man it annoyed me, sort of hard to take the villains like hojo and seph seriously with their gaping mouth, not really sure they didn't just make the mouths lines like they did for the party members.

Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:21:18 No.2484139

>>2474502

I expect the slap fight with scarlet is going to just be a 1v1 boss fight in the remake.

Everything that is too close to the FF1-6 wackiness will just be removed, and they will just keep in the meme sequences like the cross dressing, even though nearly everything in the game is iconic, its just too goofy for realistic graphics.

Won't see palmer getting run over by a random ass truck driving into a fenced in backyard with no warning, cid will probably become an SJW, shit they will probably even take out the implied bestiality of red XIIIs intro.

I mean the remake is probably going to be half the game the original is only because of all the content they will have to cut so its less fucking absurd, and I'm not sure what they will replace it with.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:26:07 No.2484143 >>2484139 What the fuck do you mean "implied" Hojo fucking says hes going to breed them together. Thats not an implication.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:27:25 No.2484146 >>2484143 No he says hes helping out an endangered species. I know this cause I just replayed that sequence yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 16:31:43 No.2484149 >>2484132 >mouths on the field models I hate this one so much. They look ridiculous, especially after Sephiroth kills Aeris.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 17:17:49 No.2484240 >>2482689 /v/ is on denial. You can't change the combat system with out cutting a lot of shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 17:23:10 No.2484251 File: 259 KB, 853x480, keepingmymoney.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2473730 >the "everyone is really azn guiz even the black guy lol" style of AC

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 17:38:50 No.2484284 File: 32 KB, 640x480, thehellareyadoing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2476137 >mfw i can't find this tweet to reply to it with boiling over salt

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 22:30:39 No.2484772 >>2473730 I'm getting tired of this native japanese sameface design.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 23:11:55 No.2484865 >Gackt confirmed for the Final Fantasy VII remake Welp, it's over. Genesis is in.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Jun 20, 2015 23:29:12 No.2484885 >>2484865 Is he voicing him or something? Cause otherwise im pretty sure literally every FF protag post 7 is based on gackt

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 00:05:31 No.2484949

>>2473628
Am I the only one not excited at all for this?

Part of the appeal of FF7 for me was the retro graphics and music. I played it for the first time in 2011 and it gave me a ton of nostalgia for no apparent reason. I think the graphics reminded me of Little big adventure, my favorite childhood game.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 00:21:12 No.2484971

>>2484949

Well FF7 is probably the last game designed with the SNES FF games as a basis, maybe that's why it feels so nostalgic.

Though I hear the game had a conflict on the design team, hence why the chibi field sprites exist, and battle models look more realistic.

Personally I love the low poly look of it though, feels comfy.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 00:47:14 No.2485001 >>2484949 >Am I the only one not excited at all for this? Anyone with a brain is not excited for a remake that will butcher the original game.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 01:15:22 No.2485050

>>2485001

They are going to remove so many things from the remake.

It's all these things that gave FF7 its identity in the first place.

I've already seen some people that are hype for the remake saying shit like "the original was too campy" and shit.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 01:32:27 No.2485059

>>2485050
>oh I can't wait for the remake, Cloud's so kawaii~~ :D
>yeah me neither, I love Sephiroth-kun >:)
>hahaha omg me too. I hope they take all the boring stuff >_<
>oh i know, like cloud in a dress xD he's too cool for that
>he is! and i think they need to change barret. the racism, omg i can't even T_T
>haha right! what were they thinking back then! :( poor barret
and these people are why a remake is even happening in the first place, so it will likely pander to them

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 01:40:25 No.2485068

>>2485059
Cross dressing is confirmed you little nigger.

I imagine they're going to retool the battle system, and probably add more content related to Clouds backstory with Zack and probably tie in Genysis or whoever the fuck from Crisis Core. More in depth stuff about Sephiroth.

I expect an entirely different experience with the same over all plot. If they made it exactly the same, with the standard JRPG stuff I dont know how I'd feel about it. I actually want something different gameplay wise. I can always pop in and enjoy FF7, but if this is really good, maybe I pop it in instead from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 09:13:44 No.2485536 >>2484971 >the last IX

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 09:33:33 No.2485563

>>2485068
>add more content related to Clouds backstory with Zack and probably tie in Genysis or whoever the fuck from Crisis Core. More in depth stuff about Sephiroth.

I hope not. There's no need and it'll just slow the game's pacing. Crisis Core has no place in FF7 canon.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 09:55:39 No.2485579 File: 23 KB, 225x350, 1387857158335.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2484109 >retconning Tseng and Rufus's deaths Jesus fucking Christ, no, please.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 10:15:30 No.2485602 Why are people treating this shit like a good thing? The realistic style is a soul-destroyer for the game, it looks like a western shooter in terms of atmosphere, they're gonna re-write it, and it's gonna fucking SUCK

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 11:02:42 No.2485652 Should Aerith's death be bloody? I remember hearing the lack of blood was due to hardware issues. I don't think she should be spewing blood everywhere but a little on the blade seems realistic

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 11:18:15 No.2485675 >>2473628 To bad I think its great the way it is.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 11:20:15 No.2485678 >>2485652 It wasn't anything to do with hardware. Final Fantasy as a whole tends to remain largely bloodless and uses it sparingly.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 18:18:54 No.2486387 >>2485678 Tactics was sort of an exception, but it was plenty different from the rest of the series up until the second half.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 18:21:22 No.2486395 >>2486387 Final Fantasy Tactics is Tactics Ogre 2 so its no surprise that its not very final fantasy-like.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 19:01:52 No.2486492 >>2486387 isn't that also what happened with everything matsuno has ever touched

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 19:07:15 No.2486505 >>2485675 >to bad

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 21:00:47 No.2486695
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My main thought about all of this isn't on the game, I'll end up getting it for pc and trying it one way or another.

No, I'm looking forward to all the sexy cosplay, the rush of rule 34, the possible merchandizing of things. I will gladly buy some totally-not-amibo materia for shits n giggles. In the end, it'll happen whether we look forward to it or not, but I'll enjoy the good of it and enjoy the inevitable live action cosplay video of Yuffie getting stuffed with glowing materia.

Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 22:30:53 No.2486859

>>2478834
VI aged much better and doesn't need a remake at all, it'd be absolutely pointless. That doesn't stop me from wanting V and VI given the IV DS treatment however on 3DS a la Anthology.

Plus, there are so many subtleties and open-ended side-story in VI that Square is absolutely sure to fuck up the story or characters somehow. I feel really bad for FF7 fans because their game's story is bound to be utterly destroyed so that the game can be "updated."

>>	Anonymous Sun, Jun 21, 2015 22:37:32 No.2486878 >>2484865 >Gackt confirmed for the Final Fantasy VII remake Nice try, but Squeenix lost the rights to him a while ago, so until the next Compilation title he won't appear.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 04:25:06 No.2487391 File: 1.97 MB, 480x360, tricky landing 1of2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] will they need to re-render fmvs?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 04:39:34 No.2487409 File: 1.91 MB, 480x360, tricky landing 2of2.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2487391

Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 05:17:54 No.2487459

They'll make it so you can only control Cloud.
Single character control is a deal breaker for modern FF games for me.

Also, they just won't do Cid right.
No GOD DAMN TEA.
No %#@&! TEA!

Also, his "lighting a stick of dynamite with a cig" badassery will be lost too I'll bet.
And Barret's Mr.T-like personality.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 11:58:57 No.2487893 >>2474529 >>2474373 It's from the new arcade dissidia

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 12:02:15 No.2487897 >>2487391 >>2487409 The trailer pretty much confirms they'll all be new. It would be wrong if they weren't. Don't get me wrong, I love the originals. But they were rather inconsistent in that they couldn't choose between normal human and SD style.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 12:13:42 No.2487923 >>2487391 bro it's a remake, not a remaster they aint gonna use 20 year old FMVs

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 12:18:55 No.2487938 >>2487391 >lol btw the spaceship has guns and shields :^) I remember being really annoyed back in the day that you couldn't order air strikes.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 12:33:04 No.2487965 >>2487459 Mr. T was only in the English translation, he's totally different in Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Jun 22, 2015 12:43:52 No.2487982 >>2487965 And they need to leave him in. Can't imagine the horrors of making a big burly nog into a japanese stoic, or whatever he was in Nippon market.

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