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2436083 No.2436083 [Reply] [Original]

It's good, but it's just not Streets of Rage.

>> No.2436102

The Sega CD version? Sure, but the arcade version is better than any Streets of Rage.

>> No.2436120

>>2436083
>It's good

Nah, it's mediocre. Nowhere near as good as Streets.

>> No.2436125

>>2436083
Streets of Rage is good, but it's not Final Fight.

>> No.2436132 [DELETED] 

>>2436120
>lining a cheap ripoff over the original game
kek

>inb4 b-b-but muh music!

>> No.2436135

...I don't remember a stage with all that japanese motif?
It's been a while since I played Final Fight though, I normally play a better game.
Like Streets of Rage.

>> No.2436140

>>2436135
>>2436120
>liking a cheap ripoff over the original game
kek

>inb4 b-b-but muh music!

>> No.2436163
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2436163

>>2436140
It's more fun to play. No need to desperately try and troll because you're upset than some people prefer one game other another.

>> No.2436168

>>2436163
>It's more fun to play.
Only for casuals.

>> No.2436173

>>2436140
Yeah, muh music, muh better gameplay, muh cooler stages, muh less cheapass difficulty, muh better, more diverse combat, and muh better graphics (as far as home versions of FF go).

I don't care what game came first, SOR still had better execution and was more fun overall.

>> No.2436179

>>2436083
I can't get over the fact that SOR's hit effects sound so meek, It's a lot less satisfying than FF.

>> No.2436190

>>2436173
>cheapass difficulty
>SoR was more fun overall

See >>2436168

>> No.2436191

>>2436163
SoR1 isn't fun to play in the slightest.

>> No.2436196

>>2436083
oh look, it's this bait again

>> No.2436204

>>2436190
Oh wow, so the game with stiff gameplay, worse music and annoyingly cheap quarter munching difficulty is a better game than SOR just because it isn't fun?
Oh wow, you're such the harcore gamer, bro.

>> No.2436207
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2436207

>>2436190
>>2436168

>> No.2436231

SoR 3 > SoR 2 > FF1 (arcade) > FF 2 & 3 > SoR 1 > FF 1 (SNES)

>> No.2436248
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2436248

Clench your hands into fists
Then spin around, one two three four
Come on, everybody do the Haggar!

>> No.2436270

>>2436231

>FF3 being better than anything

GTFO. Agreed with BK3 though

>> No.2436282
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2436282

Let's salvage a pretty decent BMUP thread from a pissing contest. Post non quarter-muncher bmups and counter quarter-muncher strats.

>> No.2436286

>>2436231
How do you rank the SOR Remake?

>> No.2436289

>>2436248
noy jitat, is that Pirates of Dark Water?

That was one of the greatest cartoons of the early 90s.

>> No.2436291

>>2436135

It's another game mode only on segacd

>> No.2436293

final fight cd was the version that made me a fan after getting wrecked by the arcade game and annoyed by the snes game.

The big selling point for me was how varied the enemy behaviour is compared to rage and how well they all work together to make a great fun challenge to fight.

>> No.2436294

>>2436286
Above all.

>> No.2436495

>>2436294
The only correct answer. It's the only beat'em'up you could ever need.

>> No.2436497

>>2436204
>annoyingly cheap quarter munching difficulty
Again, not the game's fault if you suck at video games.
>stiff gameplay
I like the controls in Final Fight way more than SoR2, SoR2 has shitty range and stun-lock with most characters, they are fucking slow too, especially when you play on Mania. Plus, SoR2 lacks the ability to do combo+grabs and reverse jump with are essential for crowd control in Final Fight.
Not that you knew these things though, because you were too busy chilling with the music.

>>2436207
Me too, so leave, please.

>> No.2436507

>>2436140
super mario bros seems to be a lot more popular than pacland...

>> No.2436516

>>2436168
because exploiting and jumping backwards the whole game is so hardcore...

>>2436497
shut the fuck up. none of those things exist to final fight autists its just jump backwards and 'sploit. I am not saying CC isn't important but if you are playing final fight the true 1cc autistic faggot way you just exploit the whole game and the mechanics are meaningless.

>> No.2436519

>>2436516
what's the deal with jumping backwards, I never heard of that

>> No.2436521

>>2436289
the genesis game is better

>> No.2436525

>>2436519
look at that epitome of deep beat em up gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfveIzui8jE

>> No.2436554

>>2436516
>>2436525
That's not necessary at all, and even if you have that knowledge you still will get your ass kicked if you don't know how the game works.

Sorry, but you sound butthurt as fuck just because you suck at the game.

>> No.2436556

>>2436525
I never got Cody's infinite punch trick.

>> No.2436559

>>2436556
Punch, punch, face the other direction and punch, then turn back and punch again. It's an inifnite that works with every character, but it's fairly useless when the game starts throwing like 10-odd enemies on screen at you.

>> No.2436561

>>2436554
Not the people you're talking to, but you're the only one why sounds butthurt here.You seem furious that people prefer one game over the other. It's all right man, you're not on /v/ you can have a discussion about the games rather than name-calling here.

>> No.2436564

>>2436554
I am not even the guy you are arguing with I am just sick of final fight faggots fellating the shit out of their game. I am good at final fight the reason for butthurt is people like you trying to convince people it is deep just because it was the only game within 50 miles of your favela.

>> No.2436567

>>2436561
I was just following OP's bait, funny that you seem to only bash the person to prefer Final Fight and not SoR.

>>2436564
I'm good at many beat 'em ups, and honestly few of them has the same focus on crowd control as Final Fight, one of them is Warriors of Fate. At least give some arguments if you are going just to shitpost.

>> No.2436573

>>2436497
>Again, not the game's fault
Of course it is. It's an arcade game, it's desiged to literally be a quarter muncher, and this is not something that's up for debate.
"Gittin Gud" at this game is just exploiting the game as shown on >>2436516 and >>2436525
And yes, what's shown there does feel like stiff gameplay.

I'd much rather play a cool game for FUN than play like a retard exploiting the game making it a borefest just so I can 1cc a supposedly "deep" and hardcore game.
Because god forbid playing video games for fun.

>you were too busy chilling with the music.
You're damn right I was, and I'd rather chill to the music again and again before I try to "not suck" at Final Fight.

>> No.2436579

>>2436573
>all arcade games are quarter munchers
>>>/v/

People like you make me realize why people don't like SoR3, you are so used to shitty unchallenging beat 'em ups blaming any game with a decent challenge as "unfair" or "aged bad", just hilarious.

>> No.2436581

>>2436567
tenchi o kurau 2 is my favorite beat em up actually. I still like streets of rage though, and final fight is a good game despite the exploits just because a faggot OP makes a bait first post doesn't mean you have to go full defensive and start shitting on streets of rage and trying to make final fight look like the best thing ever. The fact is they are both damn good games and some people just prefer one over the other.

Also man Skate on SoR 2 is one of the funnest beat em up characters ever it's a shame you don't like SoR.

>> No.2436586

>>2436581
You arguments also apply to the poeple that make look SoR2 like the best thing ever.

>it's a shame you don't like SoR.
I like it, actually i like the series over the SNES Final Fight series, but i still think FF arcade is a better game.

>> No.2436595

>>2436579
>all arcade games are quarter munchers
I didn't mean that, though maybe I was too vague.
Doesn't change the fact that FF really is a quarter mucnher though.

And the rest you're just projecting, I do like SOR/BK3 and I don't even find the game to be that hard.
most people dislike 3 for the music

>> No.2436598

>>2436586
SoR is the greatest thing of all time because yuzo soundtrack, every yuzo game gets that distinction. PC88 Ys, Actraiser, Revenge of Shinobi.

Not really though cause SoR 3 is kind of bad, and before BK3fags get up in my grill the music isn't horrible and it suits the game it's just not listenable outside the game like his other work.

>> No.2436609

>>2436595
Very few parts of Final Fight are quarter muncher, the only one that comes to mind maybe is Rolento, Sodom is a tricky AI but if you know how it works, it's easy. That's not a exploit, that's just learning how the AI works. There are much cheaper bosses in other Capcom brawlers, like Slisaurs in Cadillacs & Dinosaurs.

The main complain i hear about SoR3 is the difficulty, and it's not that hard. Normal difficulty is like the name implies, Normal. Hard difficulty is well, Hard, simply as that.

>> No.2436623

>>2436598
While i like SoR soundtracks, i think Undercover Cops has EASILY the best OST in brawlers. Even the fucking player select is hype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mAo4Q-5HVE

>> No.2436629

>>2436579
People don't like SoR3 because nearly everything felt like a huge step down from 2. The environments had way less variety and the music while ahead of its time sounded like shit.

>> No.2436634

>>2436609
and Mania is like Mania herp derp hurr

>> No.2436637

>>2436629
>The environments had way less variety
Well, it has pits, trains wrecking yoru shit and stuff like that, that's a bit more varied than SoR2.

And i think the Combat has some improvement, the combo system is questionable, but i appreciate the faster pace of the gameplay overall. It needed a tank character, though.

>>2436634
SoR3 doesn't have Mania, dummy. In Bare Knuckle 3 "Very Hard" barely feels like Normal.

>> No.2436641

>>2436609
I honestly didn't know Sor3 was disliked for it's difficulty, I always assumed people disliked it for the music, which is my one major complaint with that game.
Not only SOR 1 and 2 had great music, but 3 sounds like shit, so it's quite a let down and kinda understandable to dislike the game for that reason.

The difficulty was noticeably harder than 2, but I never had too much problem with it, in fact I enjoyed it.
I also like 2 better than 3 when it comes to character sprites, but that's not important.

>> No.2436647

>>2436641
sor3 removed the panty shots from bare knuckle
that is truly unacceptable

>> No.2436649
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>>2436598
Speaking of soundtracks:

I remember playing SNES Final Fight for the first time and hearing this trainwreck:
https://youtu.be/oFFID-2FGGM

Then, MFW playing Streets of Rage for the first time and hearing the opening stage music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfCw4tx5AME

>> No.2436650

>>2436641
I don't think SoR3's Soundtrack is that bad, although i wish most of the songs sounded like "The Poets I", which wasn't composed by Koshiro.

I don't think SoR2's soundtrack is perfect either, it's good, but way too lighthearted for a brawler IMO. SoR1 has the best soundtrack in the series for me, it fits just perfect.

As for the sprites, i think the SoR3 sprites look a lot more detailed, especially the chests, but the problem is that because of the bigger sprites the game has max 5 characters, while SoR2 has smalles sprites but max 6 characters on screen.

>> No.2436657

>>2436637
I don't mean stuff you have to avoid, but more the themes the levels were in. Most of SoR3 was just industrial areas while 2 had you going through a lot more varied areas sometimes within the same level. The combat system I'm mixed about, I don't feel the ability to use your specials without losing life if you timed it right was needed because you already had a special attack you could use making the game even easier. Also didn't like your weapons not dropping whenever you grabbed someone.

>> No.2436659

>>2436649
SoR1 has trully awesome music, but the arcade Final Fight have some tunes that hype my shit too, raw as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMm7M2EhLRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4ClSLN_j9M

>> No.2436660

>>2436649
oh god I forgot how much of a trainwreck the SNES final fight music was.

>>2436650
SoR 2 is not a brawler it is a dance party you are playing it wrong :^) seriously though dude Under Logic omg one of thebest songs ever not even in video games but everything.

>> No.2436670

>>2436659
pre 90s capcom games always sound so fucking ear rapingly harsh. Personally I like it myself but god damn what was up with that. Black Tiger, Forgotten Worlds and Sidearms I am lookin at you. Sidearms sounds like someone is beating an organ with a cat

>> No.2436671 [DELETED] 

>>2436670
Yeah, the instruments weren't very optimal, but i guess its' an adquired taste.

>> No.2436676

>>2436671
Yeah, the instruments weren't very optimal, but i guess its' an adquired taste. Black Tiger and Side Arms used different soundchips to Final Fight or Forgotten World though.

>> No.2436680
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You know, the only track on the SOR3 soundtrack I actually like is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF4g8mvrGGE

>> No.2436684

>>2436680
KEK, watch the gif while listening to the track...

>> No.2436685

>>2436650
The Poets I is one of my favorite SoR songs and I had forgotten it was from SoR3. I'll admit that I got too used to playing the fan remake as of late so I forgot which game some songs belong to, I really need to replay the MD originals soon.
Also, SoR3 loses some points by having a horrid song from the get go, right at the first stage. The other two games greet you with the superb Fighting in The Street and Go Straight, SoR3's intro stage is ear rape, so the game gives you a negative reception right away.

The thing about the sprites, is that I don't like how "grainy" they look, if that's the correct term. I enjoyed SoR's shading style much better.

>>2436659
FF had some really great melodies, and those two you linked are my favorite.
But the problem is that the instruments/sound chip don't make the melodies justice, so they're not as satisfying to hear as the SoR ost.

>> No.2436687

>>2436676
I know that is why I don't get it. Like ghosts n goblins was the first to do it. I love the music but I feel bad playing it in the arcade cause the music is so loud and I don't want attention haha. I don't know why it carried over to CPS1 games, then around street fighter 2 they seemed to figure their shit out.

>> No.2436691

>>2436598
>>2436623
>>2436649
>>2436659
stand the fuck back, I got this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6JuJnfL6QY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXG7JKfpVak

>> No.2436702

>>2436685
The CPS-1 soundchips are actually better than the genesis, it's mostly the instrumentation that lacks a bit of polish, like most CPS-1 games. But still, it has a neat "raw" tone that fits pretty well with the game IMO, just not as pompous as Yuzo's soundtracks.

>>2436687
SF2 had a really good composer, same woman that composed King of Dragons, which is also another great CPS-1 soundtrack.

>> No.2436705
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>>2436691
Haha, love Violent Storm!

Have some of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1XY6Yy1dwc

>> No.2436712

>>2436691
>Stage 3
You are small time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1XY6Yy1dwc

>> No.2436976
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2436976

It's good, but it's just not King of Dragons.

>> No.2437003

>>2436083
Are you aware that Final Fight predates Streets of Rage by several years?

>> No.2437031

>>2436670

Dude, screw you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7v-vohVNoQ&index=3&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g--HPErK81E&index=4&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsW8l6i0Kw0&index=5&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1yjsglmQp8&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30&index=9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJfZ5RC2y0g&index=10&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqTUZFbNTLw&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30&index=11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWlkZEsgLmQ&index=13&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN5eifNvec8&list=PL084B7978C5F51B30&index=15
le EPIC!

Also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ei2Ylsgb8o&index=4&list=PLq9ePjS6LfIjyOrizSoSKZQ4YKaV3O8oK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ocs4Y2BA0tY&index=5&list=PLq9ePjS6LfIjyOrizSoSKZQ4YKaV3O8oK

CPS1 OST after Final Fight had a certain charm plus that cymbal!

>> No.2437112

>>2437031
I said pre 90s kid