Final Fantasy VIII

[Anonymous No.2421651]

>Pic related: A parody of the cover of the Taylor Swift album, 1989, with Squall Leonhart and the game's release date, please tell me suggestions on how to improve it.
Why does Final Fantasy VIII get so much hate? Yes, the ending is a bit confusing. Yes, the GF system is not that good.
But it also has one of the best way of initiating Limit Breaks in Final Fantasy, having the cutest love story in a video game ever, and basically one of the most heartwarming video games of all time, and is the most beautiful Final Fantasy game in the PS1 era, both in terms of story, graphics and music, and let us not forget Triple Triad.
There are too many reasons to list that this is my and some other fans' favorite Final Fantasy.
Also Final Fantasy VIII discussion, no Squall is dead and Rinoa is Ultimecia posts please.

[Anonymous No.2421669]

The character designs are boring, the MC is unlikeable, and the story is forgettable.

I like it more than the Parasite Eve games, but it's no mystery as to why it's thought of the way it is.

[Anonymous No.2421674]

-The story was awful

-The graphics were ugly

-The Junction system was terrible

-The clop clop clop sound of walking

-Too different from FFVII, which was the only reason people played it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.2421680]

>>2421651
>Why does Final Fantasy VIII get so much hate?
Gameplay sucks because I was a dumbass who played through every battle by Drawing 100 of every magic from every enemy and then proceeded beat those enemies by summoning GFs over and over again!
The orphanage scene is the most retarded thing I have ever seen because it definitely comes out of nowhere and definitely isn't foreshadowed at all!
Level scaling sucks because it exposed me being bad at RPGs and I lost my ability to simply grind for levels in order to win instead of paying attention to the junction system!
The junction system sucks because it was too complicated for me as a kid and now that I know shit it is easily broken making the game too easy and the game somehow automatically breaks itself!
Ultimecia is the worst villain ever because she comes out of nowehere, isn't foreshadowed by all and doesn't have any background or clear motives for her actions!
Squall sucks because he is an emo and the rest of characters suck because they are retards!
Did I forgot anything important? The point here most of the flaws of the game are actully within the players of which many were new to FF series and/or RPGs in general.

>having the cutest love story in a video game ever,
I fucking love everything about FFVIII except Rinoa and the so called "romance" with her. It's unnecessary and one of few possible candidates for actually being love story worse than Twilight.

[Anonymous No.2421684]

>>2421651
>Why does Final Fantasy VIII get so much hate?
Because the "edgey" FF7 that everyone remembers and hates is actually FF8

[Anonymous No.2421693]

even after I beat 8 (which was not fun or enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination) I was still scratching my head wondering what the hell had happened.

[Anonymous No.2421723]

A revised version of my cover.

[Anonymous No.2421731]

[Anonymous No.2421734]

ff8 is really underrated but it fails in obvious aspects such as:

character development

[Anonymous No.2421740]

What the hell, /v/ and /vr/? You told me this game was shit

I mean I get that there are some major flaws with the gameplay.
Junctioning is a super-convoluted unintuitive mess that A. just recycles the same principles as materia B. but in such a free-form way that character stats and long-term planning are basically meaningless.
But the game also discourages actual leveling-up by making junction buffs more prominent the lower level you are (and thus rewarding you for actively not playing)

But everything else:
Squall's the epitome of angsty teenager? That's what I thought at first, but he's fucking hilarious - I almost never like protagonists in JRPGs enough to role-play them, but I always took the "....." "Whatever" options and liked to do a thing where I'd just stare at somebody after an awkward dialogue and then walk away after an equally awkward pause.
Quistis is hot, Selphie and Zell are also hilarious, I want to outright fuck Laguna, so many awesome moments (the giant battle on floating garden, seeing Esthar for the first time, textures and geometry warping during the time compression fight, any time Edea is onscreen, etc.); the only times I wasn't 100% invested were NORG and the few times the love story got dragged on stage, which was thankfully about 5% of the time

I haven't enjoyed a JRPG this much in years. Is there anything else like it?

[Anonymous No.2421746]

An alternate version of my 1989 FF8 cover.

[Anonymous No.2421750]

>>2421731
This meme has passed it's expiration date by about a decade.

Also:
>the word "emo" comes from genre of softcore punk music and have later on has been used to describe overly sensitive and emotional people
>Squall shows zero interest in music and little to no emotion which is the exact opposite to emo
>he get shit done and actually goes out of his way to avoid bothering people with his bullshit which again is the exact opposite to emo
>people still constantly call him emo
>his face when

[Anonymous No.2421753]

No one posts about my 1989 cover parodies.

[Anonymous No.2421762]

>>2421750
oh its you again! I can't believe you memorized that greentext

[Anonymous No.2421765]

No, that's OP posting the 1989 cover parodies which you all ignored.

[Anonymous No.2421771]

>>2421750
Nice to see you again, mang XD

[Anonymous No.2421793]

>>2421771
In case you haven't noticed me and everyone else always post the exact same things over and over again in FF threads and on other threads as well. At least I'm honest about it and aren't trying to cover it.

[Anonymous No.2421890]

Selphie is cute and I like Triple Triad. That's enough for me.

[Anonymous No.2421914]

>Edea is everyone's foster mom
>Edea battles with the group
>Ending credits
>Cid introduces Edea to everyone for the first time

This game is stupid and doesn't even understand its own plot. That's how tryhard it was.

[Anonymous No.2422083]

>>2421914
>Cid introduces Edea to everyone for the first time

Are you so autistic you thought that was an introduction?

[Anonymous No.2422086]

so bishie

[Anonymous No.2422094]

>>2421669
>I like it more than the Parasite Eve games,

Go to hell

[Anonymous No.2422108]

If Xu and the guy steering the Garden quit, the only semi-competent person left would be Quistis. The same person who got busted back down to student for being a dummy idol to a bunch of card playing waifu-dinks.

[Anonymous No.2422113]

>>2421651
>story and character design that try to be "adult" but only ends up appealing to emo teens
>crappy universe
>underdeveloped villain, Ultimecia pretty much "pops" in out of nowhere
>trying to make detailed 3D models with low res polygons and textures
>the anticlimactic orphanage bullshit
But
>Yes, the GF system is not that good
Actually it's one of the few things that were good in this game.

[Anonymous No.2422126]

>>2422113
And I also forgot :
>Magic being consumables that you also have to equip to raise your stats
>late game consists of running in circles hunting for specific mobs to steal magic from

[Anonymous No.2422137]

darling so there you are
with that look on your face
as if you're never hurt
as if you're never down

shall i be the one for you
who pinches you softly but sure
if frown is shown then
i will know that you are no dreamer

fuck yeah still got it down pat

[Anonymous No.2422156]

>>2422126
You know you're meant to refine items and cards.
I'm not defending the shitty system, lots of people missed out this mechanic.

[Anonymous No.2422158]

>>2421651

It gets hate because it's the worst game in a mediocre series ... If you want jrpgs play SaGa. Fucking final fantasy is for children.

[Anonymous No.2422194]

>>2422156
>refining items
>refining CARDS
Oh I knew about it, but hoarders like me call this a heresy.

[Anonymous No.2422195]

>>2421684
FF6 fanboy please

[Anonymous No.2422221]

>>2421651
>Squall
How do you even pronounce that

[Anonymous No.2422225]

>>2422158
>Videogames are for children.
ftfy

[Anonymous No.2422228]

>>2422221
I'll take that as a joke on the whole Tee-dus thing and you're not actually serious/retarded.

I love FF8 to bits, but it's true that you either don't get the junction system at all, or steamroll the game using it more or less competently, with no inbetween. Normal attacks and limit breaks overshadow any other options too soon, which make all the cool shit and builds you can do with junctions pointless.

Most people just hate it for not being FF7 though.

[Anonymous No.2422315]

>>2422228
>Most people just hate it for not being FF7 though
I guess most euros hate FF8 for this exact reason, given FF7 was the first Final Fantasy Square ever published here.

We also missed on CT and Xenogears... ;_;

[Anonymous No.2422317]

>>2422158
>If you want RNG play SaGa
FTFY

[Anonymous No.2422395]

>>2422083
What did you think Cid was doing, asking them to dance?

Also, you don't know what autism means.

[Anonymous No.2422402]

>>2421651
>cutest love story in a video game ever,
You haven't played, seen, nor read very many love stories.

[Anonymous No.2422549]

>>2422395
>the only reason I can imagine that Edea and Cid could be talking to the characters is if it were an introduction despite it being the millionth time they talked
>i'm not autistic

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.2422574]

>>2422228
You should hate it for not being FF7, when FF7 has a competent plot, less obvious contrived plot-devices, and better pacing.

[Anonymous No.2422592]

>>2421674
>I'm too stupid to adapt to gameplay and appreciate game for what it is

>story was awful
The story was presented in a bad way, but its no worse then any other Final Fantasy. FF4's The king of baron is evil! No wait its golbez! No wait its Zemus!, or FF7's Gotta defeat Shinra! Oh wait, its Sephiroth! But Sephiroth is dead! Oh well, still Sephiroth.

>Junction was terrible
FF8 is good. Junction system is excellent for a new player or veteran. Since it allows you to level traditionally if you're new and use auto-junction, and it allows you to abuse it super hard for subsequent playthroughs.

>Too different from FFVII
I don't get how this is a thing. Gameplay plays exactly the same except you get your limit breaks at low health instead of filling out a bar. You can still customize your commands.


I'll admit Refine isn't explained well. Being able to utilize cards for magic isn't explained well. The enemies scaling with you is never explained so its beneficial to keep yourself low level (Low level character + high level magic junctioned from refining items and cards = low level weak enemies, basically Junction has a stronger effect the lower level you are)

But its enjoyable. The scenario design of FF8 is pretty good, outside of a few segments that kind of suck (Fighting Ruby dragon as Laguna, other stupid minigames), I'll concede that 7 has very few segments that are truly awful.

[Anonymous No.2422598]

>>2422592
>Shitting on FF4's story
mate.. you're in for a proper rumble

[Anonymous No.2422629]

It is the best Ps1 FF.
As a noob I played it like a tard and the junction system was nice to me.
As a veteran I manipulated the junction system and ran from every enemy in the game except bosses.

It had the futuristic feeling with a sense of mid-evil setting and still managed to work in a highschool-type setting with the SEEDS and Gardens.

[Anonymous No.2422640]

>>2421669
Squall isn't unlikable in the slightest.
Notice that in games they always choose a character as protag who is the most inoffensive guy or gal possible.

Just look at Vaan.

[Anonymous No.2422650]

>>2422629
>managed to work in a highschool-type setting with the SEEDS and Gardens

I honestly don't like Balamb Garden much. the concept is just stupid as shit. it tries to come off as a military school but it's for pussies.

[Anonymous No.2422669]

>Actually replying to him honestly
>Not just posting a chain of "Whatever..."

/vr/ used to be fun.

[Anonymous No.2422682]

>>2422669
Whatever...

[Anonymous No.2422686]

>>2422669
go to /v/ if you want shitty stupid memes.
I prefer it here.

[Whatever No.2422687]

>>2422669
Whatever

[Anonymous No.2422721]

>>2422598
>>Shitting on FF4's story
FF4's story is objectively fucking horrible.

Its full of asspull 180's. You have no concrete goal until after the midway point. Its genuinely the worst kind of story telling possible.

[Anonymous No.2422726]

>>2422640
But Balthier was the protagonist of FF12, silly

[Anonymous No.2422727]

>>2422721
You have a fucking goal from the start, and you get new ones as you go along, FF4's story is stellar compared to other console games at it's time, and it holds up today (if we're not going into other media than games obviously)

[Anonymous No.2422734]

>>2422726
I think you mean basch.

[Anonymous No.2422736]

>>2422727
>this is what your average /vr/ poster believes

No wonder this board has gone to shit.

[Anonymous No.2422738]

>>2422736
Go back to /v/ then and your hugbox

[Anonymous No.2422750]

>>2422738
/vr/ is the hugbox now you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.2422754]

>>2422750
No it's not >>2419550

[Anonymous No.2422803]

Foreshadowed or not, I think the orphanage scene is still fucking retarded and a massive cop out.
I mean, the way you meet up up with each character in your party makes complete sense in the story.
>Quistis is your instructor.
>Selphie is a transfer student who just happen to run into your team because of the message thing, and is later assigned to work with you after you two graduate.
>Zell is just some random dude who's been assigned to your team.
>Irvine is a guy from another garden who's been assigned to your team because you NEEDED a sniper for that particualr mission.

It all makes complete sense within the context of the game, you are a mercenary after all, and it's not like you can choose your allies. Squall is assigned to work with people he wouldn't normally hang with, but he takes it with no problems because he is commited to his duty, and eventually warms up to them, which is cool.
But all that is ruined when all of a sudden "HEY GUYS WE'RE LIKE, TOTALLY FROM THE SAME ORPHANAGE! WE ALL KNEW EACH OTHER SINCE WE WERE KIDS LOLOL!"
Foreshadowed or not with the whole GF erases your memory bit, it's just fucking retarded and ruins what was otherwise a nice dynamic between the party members.


Otherwise, I love FF8 because of it's setting, atmosphere and the Triple Triad, it's a damn shame the story goes to shit with the orphanage scene and the ridiculous forced romance.

[Anonymous No.2423580]

How is the atmosphere in the game? I've always heard to stay far away from it, but I like VII and IX a lot and I'm still probably going to try it sometime. I want to know about the atmosphere because no one ever seems to talk about it, but it's a major part of why I enjoyed the other two games. The music, the backdrops, the level designs, and everything were all super well done in VII and IX, so I'm curious about how they hold up in VIII.

[Anonymous No.2423589]

>>2423580
Honestly to me it feels kinda slapdash and not as lived in as FF7 or FF6. It feels a lot like choose an area/background, music, monsters from each column. I know that's how most FFs are, but 8 really felt rushed.

[Anonymous No.2423594]

>>2423580
I've never been able to put my finger on it but.... strange?

A lot of the music is more minimalist than usual. Musically, it's a lot more serious sounding but as for actual atmosphere in the game itself? I really don't know how to describe it. Not in a Batman sense or anything but darker perhaps? It's not a world that has a lot of time for fun.

The world itself definitely isn't as much a defined character like it is in 6, 7 and 9 so it's a lot harder to put my finger on

[Anonymous No.2423626]

>>2423580
I think the atmosphere was kind of bland compared to 7 and 9. Compare how Cid looks in 8 (pic related) compared to 7 and 9.

[Anonymous No.2423631]

>>2422734
I think you mean Ashe.

[Anonymous No.2423649]

>>2423580
>but I like VII and IX a lot
So do I, and most people who like Final Fantasy

You've heard to stay away from it because it isn't good. The same people recommending to stay away from 8 probably also recommend to play 7 and 9 because they're good games and 8 isn't. When a friend asks me what games they should play, I don't recommend them the bad ones, ya know? And example that may or may not work: the 1st movie in The Matrix is a decent movie and I would recommend it to my friends. I would not recommend that they watch the 2nd and 3rd because they aren't very good. I might recommend a few albums from an artist, while telling a friend to specifically avoid certain other albums by the same artist. In these scenarios, it just so happens that my advice coincides with the opinions of critics and reviewers

The only good part of FF8 is Laguna's bits, and I wouldn't say it's worth playing the whole game just to experience them. Still, go ahead and play it id you want, but people have recommended the good games while telling you to avoid the bad ones because that's good advice. I'd wager that most FFers like 7 and 9, and they either hate 8 or don't like it nearly as much.

> I want to know about the atmosphere because no one ever seems to talk about it
It isn't memorable, that's why. I do encourage you to play FF8 if it's something you want to do, but the fact that people have told you to stay away from it (even though you like 7 and 9, cuz most people do) isn't some conspiracy; it's good advice

The atmosphere, is dull grey with a somewhat dreamlike quality except it's a very bland dream, maybe like a dream about work or every day life; nothing fantastic. The world feels as if you're on a train ride and the setting is the dulled and blurred movement of the city and countryside as you pass through it

[Anonymous No.2423653]

>>2423580
>>2423589
>>2423626
I see, thanks. Since I'm new to the series, are there any others that manage to pull off atmosphere like VII and IX (and apparently VI)? I'll probably play VI next with the huge amount of praise it gets now, but outside of that I don't know where to go. I was considering trying X, but I'm still not sure about the 3D modeling.

>>2423649
I fully understand that, and get the complaints, but it is a bit surprising that it's so poorly regarded considering it's right in the middle of the series four most well-received games. I believe you, though.

[Anonymous No.2423676]

>>2423653
Don't listen to those fags, FF8 is the best final fantasy ever.

[Anonymous No.2423694]

>>2423649
That last paragraph is a great description of FF8.

[Anonymous No.2423715]

>>2423649

yeah >>2423694 is right, the last paragraph is a good description of ff8

[Anonymous No.2423727]

>>2423676
>FF8 is the best final fantasy ever based on my nitwit point of view.

Fixed.

[Anonymous No.2423736]

Where is Don Rumata? Its hard to google katakana/kanji lingo. I asked because there is this one jap website I stumbled 12 years ago that stated ff8 is supposed to be an advertising medium (you know, coca-cola and other shit) slapped on hallways, cafeteria, and other places however the project god nixed and all was left was this boring emo cinematic "fillers". FF8 is supposed to be a huge game in terms of "things to do in-game" (hence the 4 discs). Thats why I'm looking for that "leaked" ff8 jap-only underground documentary

[Anonymous No.2423740]

>>2423736
Interesting theory. I looked it up on google with the kana/hiragana and didn't find anything, but that is a neat idea. It would make sense at least considering the game supposedly blew up in popularity when it released.

[Anonymous No.2423872]

>>2423694
>>2423715
Hah, thanks. I try

>>2423653
>but it is a bit surprising that it's so poorly regarded considering it's right in the middle of the series four most well-received games
I agree. From an outside perspective, it makes sense for 8 to be good as well, and there are some people who like it but I think the general consensus is to pass unless you really like FF and want to experience them all
>are there any others that manage to pull off atmosphere like VII and IX
My favorites are 7, 9, and 4. I don't think 4 pulls of atmosphere quite like 7 and 9, but the story in 4 has the best pacing of all of them, in my opinion. I feel there's a definite urgency to a lot of the plot and I think it's the most interesting. To me, it always provides the necessary driving force to do what the story requires next which a lot of PRGs suffer from. Like, "yeah, I'm supposed to do that but I don't really feel like doing it" -- FF4 doesn't have that problem, you always feel compelled to do the next thing.

6 gets lots of praise and is good. It's a definite must play if you're going through the FF series. X is alright but the problem is the voice acting, not the 3D modeling. I would consider it another must play in the FF series, but only if you can manage to play it with the Japanese VA rather than the English ones. It's still playable with english voice, but they're bad

[Anonymous No.2423880]

>>2421651
>>2421723
>>2421746
>>2421753

No one fucking cares.

[Anonymous No.2423905]

>>2423872
Thanks, I'll add four to the list as well. I stopped playing VII for a while because I lost a lot of motivation to play, but unlike most games I find myself getting more involved in it and the game getting better the further in it is. I've now passed disc one and despite knowing the huge spoiler and feeling upset about that, I still want to see the end.

[Anonymous No.2423924]

>>2423736
I can't find any making of videos, but I did find this!

http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3010610

[Anonymous No.2423927]

>>2423924
lol

[Anonymous No.2425410]

>>2421651
It's a mess of a game. There's beauty to be found and a shitload of stuff to do and alternatives to get to the cool stuff, but you must have godly patience to dig them up.

Personally it's the one I've dedicated more hours from the FF series, except Tactics which for me is a masterpiece, and I'll probably won't dedicate the same or more hours to any other.

[Anonymous No.2426135]

I don't think I got further than the 2nd disk. The gardens at the beginning are cozy as fuck though. I lost interest once the actual quest started. I think I remember a part with a sniper rifle?

[Anonymous No.2426398]

>>2421651
>having the cutest love story in a video game ever
It had literally the worst fucking love story ever told, unless you mean Laguna and Raine
>>2422158
Please refrain from making us people who really play SaGa look like elitist fucktards, especially when FFVIII has so many things from the SaGa meta.

[Anonymous No.2428946]

>>2421651
>the cutest love story
Squall falls in love with Rinoa with no build up and what I always thought was for seemingly no reason. Locke and Celes. Tifa and Cloud, even if one-sided. Zidane and Garnet and hell, even Tidus and Yuna have better and more believable love stories.

Locke x Celes OTP

[Anonymous No.2428998]

Daily reminder that Zell is Marty McFly

[Anonymous No.2429492]

I feel like the only person in the entire world that liked Rinoa.

[Anonymous No.2429502]

I basically agree with sp00ny's review.

I like the game in general. It may be easy, broken, grind heavy, but it is fun.

I think a lot of people miss the point of video games. They're supposed to be fun. A game that's too challenging is annoying.

[Anonymous No.2429509]

>>2429502
Kinda why I like FF4 DS/PC, it's just the right amount of difficulty

[Anonymous No.2429527]

>>2429509
>playing any version of FF4 aside from FF2 US (SNES)

I thought I was going to like you.

[Anonymous No.2429530]

>>2429502
I see your point, but a game where you just steamroll everything without challenge can get kinda boring too man.

[Anonymous No.2429556]

>>2429527

>playing the version with a shitload of removed abilities
>playing the version with a bad translation
>playing the easiest version
>playing FF4 on SNES

I know you're nostalgic for it but please, get it together.

[Anonymous No.2429561]

>>2429556
It's comfy.

Why did they remove the abilities, anyway?

[Anonymous No.2429564]

>>2429561

Some of them were "too complicated for stupid little kids to get" and others, like Cecil's Dark command that drained health to be used, were deemed inappropriate for children.

[Anonymous No.2429584]

>>2423649
>The same people recommending to stay away from 8 probably also recommend to play 7 and 9 because they're good games and 8 isn't.
Then what if I thought they all were mediocre, just for different reasons?

[Anonymous No.2429609]

>>2429556
>easiest

Dude, it's the hardest version of FF4 that isn't the DS remake. Once AGAIN I have to educate an ignorant fool who thinks FF2US was FF4EZ. It WASN'T. It was straight-up FF4 with abilities and items removed to make it HARDER for US release, as is usually the case for American versions of Japanese games.

[Anonymous No.2429660]

>>2429609
>FF2 Easy Type
>not easy

[Anonymous No.2429670]

>>2429660
Dude can you not read:

FF2US. Is. Not. FF4EZ.

FF4EZ. Did. Not. Ever. Come. To. America.

[Anonymous No.2429684]

>>2429670
Are you trolling?

FF2 IS FF4 Easy Type with additional censorship.

Even the PSX versions were Easy Type.

Get your facts straight.

[Anonymous No.2429687]

>>2421651
>Why does Final Fantasy VIII get so much hate?
Spoony

[Anonymous No.2429698]

>>2429684
Where in the FUCK are you getting your facts?

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IV/Version_Differences

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IV
>The original Final Fantasy IV was altered in several regards to reduce the difficulty level for Final Fantasy IV Easy Type, a version exclusive to Japan

http://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-iv/
>While we’re at it, we’ll also take a look at Final Fantasy IV Easy Type, which was a simplified Japanese version of the game for players who were new to RPGs.

https://tcrf.net/Final_Fantasy_IV/Version_Differences


In short, SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU ARE WRONG.

[Anonymous No.2429736]

>>2422113
>character design that try to be "adult"

I thought the designs were what teenagers would think "adult" is. Which fits considering your party is nothing but teenagers.

[Anonymous No.2429743]

>>2422083
Not that anon but it could be a reintroduction. Since that's the first time they see Edea as she really is since they lived at the orphanage. Every other time she was wearing that get up with the shell on the side of her head.

[Anonymous No.2429746]

It gets undying hate for no reason. Probably mostly because a (then "famous") internet celebrity reviewed it an shit all over it. And like most internet celebrities he tried to get an entertainment value on it by hyperboling its flaws. It's one of my favorites, but also I understand why it's a hit or miss. You can either make the game really hard or really easy for yourself with junctioning and leveling up. Final Fantasy II (not IV) is one of my favorites too and I can understand why people don't like it because of its complicated level up system. Plus it had FF6(3) and FFVII to be compared to.

[Anonymous No.2429753]

>>2429746
And to add onto my previous post. Squall's USA translation was a hit or miss and also commonly mistaken as "emo". Cloud would get the same treatment by people years later after Advent Children and people would constantly mistake Cloud's characteristics as emo in FFVII even though it was nonexistent like in FFVIII. In the Japanese version Squall was actually apologetic and more soft spoken, rather then a bit of a rebel.

[Anonymous No.2429772]

>>2429753
What's the Japanese version of "Whatever..."?

[Anonymous No.2429783]

>>2429772
"...sorry", apparently.

http://fyeahffviii.tumblr.com/post/72672083380/squall-whatever-leonhart

[Anonymous No.2429959]

I really liked it when I played it back in 2000, somehow it was my favorite game back then.

Now am playing it again, and goddamn I really like it.
Its the atmosphere and the OST, somehow it manages to be super comfy, like taking a walk on the beach.
The architecture and the backgrounds overall are really nice as well.
Also, this new playthrough made me appreciate Selphie a lot more, she's probably best girl along with Quistis.

And there's the subtle sense of humor here and there with Squall's "... whatever"

/r/ing the Balamb Garden suicide pasta.

[Anonymous No.2430120]

>>2429959
I'm a hardcore fan with FF8, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in Balamb Garden where I would often train with Zell in the training center and help Selphie with the Garden Festival, but one day as I was talking to Selphie, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave her a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, silly!"

This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. She then said, "I talked with Headmaster Cid and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for SeeD, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" She then said "Cid said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.

I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.

[Anonymous No.2430125]

>>2429561
Because we got a translated version of FF4 "easy type" where they took out anything remotely resembling complexity.

[Anonymous No.2430132]

>>2430120
Never gets old, thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.2430228]

>>2430125
see
>>2429609
and
>>2429670
and
>>2429698
and learn to read the thread

[Anonymous No.2430379]

>>2430228
Do you even read your sources? Several changes made in easy type were brought into the US release to, according to http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IV/Version_Differences . And just linking to you saying "nuh uh!" doesn't count as proof, you fucking sperg.

[Anonymous No.2430401]

>>2430379
It went like
>FFIV is released on Super Famicom in Japan
>the game is censored, stripped off a bunch of content and made easier before being released as FFII in the US
>FFIV Easy Type is then released in Japan and made even easier than the US version while also including most of the changes made for it
To sum up, it's a shitstorm. I've read different versions of the story everywhere, from magazines to websites, but this one seems to be the correct one.

[Anonymous No.2430969]

FFIV Easy Type is a japan-only version of FFIV that is even easier than the Final Fantasy II we got. Also for some reason Zeromus looks like this in it.

[Anonymous No.2430990]

>>2430379
You are so fucking backwards, buddy.

FF2US' ability removals and item/summon/chest gimping were brought BACK to Japan, they actually REBALANCED the game (which they did NOT do for US, hence its increased difficulty), and that's Easy Type.

But you would know this if you actually bothered to read correctly and take information in fucking context.

Has anyone in this fucking argument actually played 2US AND 4 but me?

[Anonymous No.2431197]

>>2430969

And this Zeromus being a harder, secret boss later on for the GBA version is pretty funny imo.

[Anonymous No.2431256]

>>2430969
What the hell is up with those HP values?

[Anonymous No.2431275]

>>2430990
i wasn't in the argument but i've played both, and whatever.

>>2429783
interesting.

[Anonymous No.2431489]

>>2430990
I have actually played all three SNES versions of the game, and the claim that the US version was harder than the original Japanese version is just wrong. The combat is largely the same in both versions. Yes, they took out some abilities, but most of those abilities were useless anyway. Oh no! Edward can't waste my potions by dividing them among the entire party! The only two abilities that were slightly useful was Yang being able to cast protect on himself (the absence of which does make the Mom Bomb fight slightly harder), and Cecil's Dark Wave, which goes away when he becomes a Paladin anyway. And not having it just means you can't one-shot those big parties of goblins and desert sahagins. Other than that the combat is pretty identical in both versions. Maybe you found a use for Rosa's ability to restore 20 HP to everyone for free in the final dungeon, but I sure didn't.

Outside of combat the US version changes do make the game much easier, for example; they made EVERY SECRET PASSAGE IN THE GAME VISIBLE. No more missing better weapons or useful items in dungeons is kind of a huge factor if you're playing for the first time. Also having cheap Remedies available from the start instead of having to carry around antidotes and eye drops and gold needles and everything else. In the Japanese version your item bag fills up quickly and you're forced to use the Big Chocobo. US version largely made Big Chocobo pointless unless you're a hoarder who wants to have every item in the game. Yes, the took out all of the items that can be used to cast spells, but they replaced those items with lots of extra healing items. The US version buries you in Eithers and Elixers so you never run out of magic, while in the Japanese version they're rare. Not to mention everything in the Japanese version (including weapons and armor) is more expensive. You actually have to grind for Gil sometimes.

So no, the US version is not harder than the Japanese version. It's just different.

[Anonymous No.2431504]

does it matter? ff4 is an easy game either way you play it

[Anonymous No.2431508]

>>2431489
No, you don't understand. Making every single status healing item in the game be an incredibly cheap one-size-fits-all item and handing ethers out like they were candy makes the game totally hard, dude.

[Anonymous No.2432159]

>>2421651
It had good music, good cutscenes, feels, and some pretty cool areas. Gameplay was garbage, it was very boring at times, and most of the time I didn't like the setting.

So, as a "game", it wasn't very good.

[Anonymous No.2432284]

>>2431489
I fail to see how visible secrets and cheap, powerful healing items could be misconstrued as "easy". Are you sure you didn't read all the posts in the thread about how hard the game is? Surely that will change your mind!

[Anonymous No.2433176]

It was better than 7. I played them both to the end this year and enjoyed 8 much more than 7. People talk about 8's characters sucking, but at least they had some development. In 7 everyone is a completely flat archetype that is exactly what they appear to be except for cloud, and his development is not done well.
Tifa's personality consists of "i love cloud" and absolutely nothing else.
All of the other characters have maybe one experience that the game touches on that then don't really effect their characters in any way past those short moments. The setting, graphics, monsters, summons, music, and map are all worse than ff8. The only better thing about it is the materia system. FF8's junction was broken even on first playthrough for me, after drawing triple from Odin pretty early on squall spent the entire rest of the game oneshotting pretty much everything with it junctioned to strength, strength increasing GF's and darkside. Even the final boss was a joke, just a few limit breaks and she was dead.

[Anonymous No.2433179]

>>2431508
>>2432284

The issue here is that you clowns (or clown, probably, in this case) are saying that US2 is FF4EZ, not the difficulty of the game.

[Anonymous No.2433180]

>>2432284
>Are you sure you didn't read all the posts in the thread about how hard the game is?
You mean all the posts from the same autist that claims FFIV US is hard when it's obviously not?
I bet it's you.

[Anonymous No.2433214]

>>2433176
>but at least they had some development
That's exactly what they don't have. Past disc 1, Irvine has no role in the story. The characters are mostly bland, one dimensional and have no believable reason to stay together or be friends.

[Anonymous No.2433219]

>>2433214
>Irvine has no role in the story

So you're saying he doesn't organize the rescue operation to save Squall, remind everyone of the reason they stay together, throw Selphie's party, or is basically the other squad leader when not present in Squall's main party on operations like taking down the missile barrage launched at Garden?

OK, so you haven't even played disc two to completion, then, or forgot everything about the game.

[Anonymous No.2433226]

>>2433219
I've tried to forget.

[Anonymous No.2433227]

>>2421651

Squall confirmed for best FF protag

You'll get your sequel one day my friend

[Anonymous No.2433241]

>>2433227
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whatever...

[Anonymous No.2433520]

>>2421723
nice photoshop skills, OP.

[Anonymous No.2434813]

>>2433520
top kek
I never woulda know because I didn't open any of the thumbnails.

Holy shit OP you suck, not only your idea is stupid and gay, but the execution is even worse.