Repro Carts

[Anonymous No.2395061]

I see threads on burned games, flash carts, and the meme retron 5, but not flash carts. /vr/'s opinion?

[Anonymous No.2395063]

>I see threads on burned games, flash carts
>but not flash carts
Derp hurr

[Anonymous No.2395067]

>>2395063
Eh, it happens. Meant to say repro.

[Anonymous No.2395071]

I've got a handful of repro carts, nothing that fancy though.
Here's a few

[Anonymous No.2395081]

>>2395071
Is the earthbound cart worth it?

[Anonymous No.2395084]

They're bootlegs, destroy other games in the process and make money with the work of others. Get a copying device or emulate instead of supporting that shit.
You don't gain any moral rights by knowingly purchasing an unlicensed copy.

[Anonymous No.2395086]

>>2395081
Which one, NES is just the english translation. Uncut is uncut translation. Think I paid about $30 a piece for em.
Honestly I could have just gotten a flash cart, but like having the individual carts on my shelves.

[Anonymous No.2395087]

>>2395084
Actually a few of them aren't using donor carts.
Hell take homebrew games like Battle Kid 1 & 2 which are totally new cart runs.
And moral rights when you're speaking of emulating or a copying device... all shades of grey man.

[Anonymous No.2395090]

>>2395087
Nobody using illegally acquired games claims to own them legally aside from people who purchase bootlegs.

[Anonymous No.2395091]

Repro carts is the best example of how much money one can get from this "retro" fad, and the best example of rip-off in the matter.

They make "repros" which cost them almost nothing, and sell them 30-70 bucks, and all that money is made not only on the back of the original devs/publishers, on the back of whoever owes the right to those games nowadays, and in most cases also on romhackers, who were never asked or even told about those repros for sale.

The worst offender is that repro sellers pretend to do it "for the love of games". If you'd do it for the "love of game", yet if go check in details, in the booklet going with the romhacks they sell, in some cases they still mention items in the booklet that were present in the original game but not in the romhack, and make no mention of the items from the romhack. They love the games so much they haven't played them.

And finally let's also not forget the carts that get destroyed to make those in most cases; or also repros of rare expensive games that pretend they are not repros so they can be sold at an even higher price.

There is literaly no excuse to buy these things. I get it when collectors spend several hundred bucks on an old rare cart, but this is nothing like it.
If you think it's "cool" to own a repro and to show it off in your collection, I can tell you all the others see you show is how far you're willing to go in being ripped-off.

[Anonymous No.2395093]

>>2395061
inb4 "are flash carts emulation?" meme

[Anonymous No.2395094]

>>2395090
when did i say anything about legally owning the games, it's the same as a flash cart or emulating.

[Anonymous No.2395095]

>>2395091
Here's the thing, I can emulate or use a flash cart to play Mother or Sweet Home in english, or I can get a repro cart with a nicely done box and manual.
My collection is for my own personal satisfaction, not to show off.
As far as donor carts, a lot of the time its those overly abundant sports games no one cares about anyways.

[Anonymous No.2395103]

I've been meaning to get my Sweet Home repro, but first I have to get my hands on a donor cart. Which I'm too lazy to do for some reason.

[Anonymous No.2395106]

>>2395094
It's a common claim that people buy bootlegs because they want to own the game.
See for instance >>2395095.
Nobody should add fakes to a real collection, particularly not fresh productions.

[Anonymous No.2395118]

>>2395106
how can something that wouldn't otherwise exist be a fake?

[Anonymous No.2395124]

I have Super Contra 7 bootle.... i mean repro cart

[Anonymous No.2395159]

Repro carts aren't worth even close to what they sell for which is why I've been wanting to get in on that action.

[Anonymous No.2395164]

Oh and while I'm sharing, it's worth letting you guys know that AliExpress has really cheap repros of a lot of high dollar Genesis games.

[Anonymous No.2395171]

>>2395095
So you'd rather buy an overpriced bootleg? They basically gave bootlegs a new game to 'justify' the price. 15 bucks at most is what it should cost. It would cost you the same price to make your own repro than to buy one.

As for the manual, like I said in cases of romhacks sometimes the info in it is not correct. So much for the "nice" manual.

>As far as donor carts, a lot of the time its those overly abundant sports games no one cares about anyways.

Depends what you mean by "a lot of the times". Shitty abundant sports game tend to use shitty abundant mappers, that not many games of "repro interest" use.

I do own a repro though. Journey To Silius - Anarchy Edition. Except only 10 copies of the romhack was ever produced, that it was never released as a rom, that I am a HUGE fan of the game and that I bought it directly from the guy who made the hack for 10 USD, shipping included.
Now that's how repros should be, but as long as you keep supporting people who rip you off nothing's going to change.

[Anonymous No.2395174]

>>2395164
See now that's a shitty thing to do as those are games you can actually physically get vs romhacks/translations you can't

[Anonymous No.2395175]

>>2395164
fuck you, for telling that
now there will be 8 other guys selling them again on ebay

[Anonymous No.2395176]

>>2395164
The hell am I looking at?

[Anonymous No.2395181]

>>2395118
How can a $1,000,000 note be fake? How can Hitler's diaries be fake? How can a painting be fake?

[Anonymous No.2395205]

>>2395174
But they are rather pricey. I personally wouldn't mind.

[Anonymous No.2395218]

>>2395164
Hey anon, have you bought from there? Care to give feedback?

[suck it bitch No.2395223]

>>2395175
i will be one of those 8 guys

[Anonymous No.2395238]

>>2395223
Anon, y

[Anonymous No.2395258]

>>2395061
OPs cart is spiffy. I want that. Where to get?

[Anonymous No.2395269]

>>2395061
I really think, 90% of the time, it's just better to put the money towards a flashcart. If it's a homebrew game or a really nice repro of an english translation or something that uses a whole new board, that I could justify paying for. ROM hacks and the like, however, it doesn't make too much sense for me to have them on a cart because they were never officially released. In general though, I just don't like people using the PCB for parts/the mapper chip or just reflashing the ROM (the fucking people who destroy Revenge of the Joker to make Mr. Gimmick are the worst kind of people, you don't even get the expansion audio on an NES).

The pic you have in the OP is really nice looking though.

[Anonymous No.2395272]

>>2395061
Abnormal: good, plain: BAD!!!

/thread

[Anonymous No.2395276]

>>2395269
>>2395258
It's one of the mother 1 repro carts that were being sold. Don't remember who sells it....but they run for more than 70 bucks

[Anonymous No.2395281]

Hey, would it be possible to make a 2-in-1 cartridge?

I mean, it has to be, pirates made 50-in-1 carts, though those had older smaller games, but would it be all straightforward?

[Anonymous No.2395302]

you know, with the advent of 3D printing, there shouldn't be any sort of need to "sacrifice games" for the sake of making repro carts.

The one reprocart I do own isn't a real SNES cart, it's got fake plastic screws instead of actual ones. Kinda would prefer actual screws though.

[Anonymous No.2395312]

>>2395281
Why the hell would anyone want SMB2j on a NES cart? The game's only novelty is that it wasn't the one we got for western NES. I could see a Mario completist buying the famicom cart, but a NES repro? I don't get it.

[Anonymous No.2395314]

>>2395312
You would need a famicom, a disk system, and the game to play it.

[Anonymous No.2395315]

>>2395312
Maybe they want to actually play the game, rather than just have something to flip on ebay? It was only released on FDS, so if you want to play it on a real NES, you either track down an FDS, or use a pirate/flash cart.

[Anonymous No.2395316]

>>2395312
why would anyone want nes carts they are ugly as fuck.

[Anonymous No.2395319]

>>2395272
>Horrendous art
>Shitty title on par with Earthbound Zero
The only thing that's good is the cart color.

[Anonymous No.2395323]

>>2395314
I guess that makes a little more sense if it becomes a much more practical way to play it on western hardware. Eh, I'll stick to Lost Levels on Allstars.

[Anonymous No.2395325]

>>2395312

>Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels is a 1986 side-scrolling, platformer action game developed and published by Nintendo as the sequel to the 1985 Super Mario Bros.

>sequel

There's a reason to own it now, faggot. And if you didn't realize, all Mario games have the same fucking premise. Mario Bros J at least has different level design and new items. Its not a remaster, it is considered what is a sequel by Mario standards.

[Anonymous No.2395327]

>>2395323

>stick to Lost Levels on Mario all-stars

Enjoy butchered physics and terrible music/graphics. You're making a mistake. Emulate both and you'll see.

[Anonymous No.2395329]

>>2395325
Yes, it's part of the Mario series and that's why I could see some completist Mario fanatics wanting to buy a version of the game, but I couldn't see a reason why a repro one would be wanted until I was reminded it was a famicom disc game.

[Anonymous No.2395343]

>>2395218
I've bought a couple in the past; they're alright. No problems asides from them fitting super tight.

[Anonymous No.2395348]

>>2395061
I don't emulate.

[Anonymous No.2395352]

>>2395327
I'm not the only one who noticed. It kinda hurts me when people say "Oh it's the same games with a facelift" the mechanics are there, sure, but they aren't the same...they made tweaks and it feels different...in a less desirable way. It's still probably a definitive Mario compilation, but I don't think they're perfect and the definitive versions of the game.

[Anonymous No.2395359]

>>2395329

Pretty much, yeah. I sought out a famicom version until I realized it was a fami-disk game. I told myself I didn't want to buy a console just for one game although I bought msx for metal gear 1/2 only... Oh well. If only fami disk repros existed, id have probably gotten it so fuck that system.

[Anonymous No.2395363]

>>2395343
They fit and play in the US Genesis?

[Anonymous No.2395409]

I've been thinking on getting a NTSC Terranigma and a Star Fox 2

But something in my brain won't let me spend that much money on that, it's like a "stupid spend" lock.

[Anonymous No.2395432]

>>2395409
I would shoot for Star Fox 2 at least, as you can't play it on a flash cart.

[Anonymous No.2395446]

>>2395363
>Chinese company
>expects US carts
lol

[Anonymous No.2395447]

>>2395409
Its like 30 bucks.

I have a Bahamut Lagoon, Terranigma, and Seiken Densetsu 3 as NTSC-UC carts.

They're kinda cool. I wouldn't go out of my way to get a shitload of them, but get some games you really like and its pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.2395457]

>>2395446
>he thinks repros are made by US companies xDDD

[Anonymous No.2395459]

>>2395091
>Cost of donor carts
>Cost of equipment
>Cost of time for doing repro, flashing rom, cleaning shell, applying high quality label

It may not be hugely expensive to get into to get Rom flashing software and a high quality printer, but its niche as fuck, so it makes sense they would try and maximize profits.

You can get them for 30-35. More if you want a cheap manual and box. I'd rather just get a UGC and the cart.

Obviously, best way to play Romhacks, or fan translated games is to use a Flashcart, but I do enjoy having carts, and a collection. I'll pick up a flashcart at some point, but until then, I'll pick up a repro every so often.

[Anonymous No.2395478]

>>2395084
>>2395061
this
People who SELL repro cards are SCUM
Also look at all that youtube faggots like AVGN.
They all think and say that piracy is thief and then they buy repros that is far worse than normal piracy
Ignorant fucks

[Anonymous No.2395481]

>>2395061
I think repro games are great. As long as they are sold cheaply and with buyer knowing what they are getting.
I am currently making repro covers and boxes for my games. I may even start doing labels but not sure if I want to remove original ones.

[Anonymous No.2395482]

>>2395312
>>2395316
It takes up way less space than a bunch of bizarre accessories. My husband wanted a bunch of such famicom novelties, but we're not having that fouling up the living room like that! He's limited to one console, so it's just an NES. he can't have hundreds and hundreds of cartridges around either.

So, what he needs to get is combination Super Mario 2j and Duck... umm ... tales cartridge.

Oh yeah, and he's also permitted a PCE, since those are small and not too weird looking. His half brother keeps bugging him to get this "rett ron" thing, but it just seems like such a stupid excuse or all those games, and it's ugly and tacky and it doesn't even run things right! Ugghhh, damn gimmicky toys!

[Anonymous No.2395485]

>>2395478
I want to buy a flash cart. Noway I'm spending all that money or those old games. I'm about done collecting.

[Anonymous No.2395486]

>>2395482
Memeing plz go.

If not, then you're damn controlling. Dedicate a spare room or closet maybe?

[Anonymous No.2395489]

>>2395485
I dont have anything against piracy , flashcards or repros.
Im only talking about people that makes and SELLS
repros ( and most of the time with hacks and translations made by fans)
They are worst than hitler.

[Anonymous No.2395497]

>>2395482
famicom takes less space than NES, cartidges are also prettier (label takes more space on cart, no chees grader on the side, and label art itself is not over-americanized)

and if you are starting to collect
there is 400in1 cart (with all nekketsu/kunio-kun games) and 10in1 Rockman that are sold for 14$

[Anonymous No.2395514]

>>2395486
Too bad, there are **standards** to be measured up to. And the living room is the only place suitable for a big honking CRT TV screen, so that's limited to just those consoles, and the oldish Shuttle, and another smaller, weaker PC.

[Anonymous No.2395529]

>>2395061
calling out this obvious viral attempt from gamesack. nice try guys.

[Anonymous No.2395538]

>>2395272
>>2395319
Did that game have a proper English title?

[Anonymous No.2395774]

>>2395061
There are tons of thread on repros. We just use the correct term. bootleg.

[Anonymous No.2395817]

>>2395061
commercial pirate reseller shill please get arrested

[Anonymous No.2395864]

Moralfags aside, high quality reproduction carts for fan translations are great. It's just a shame that there's so few homebrew games that'd be worth going through the effort for.

[Anonymous No.2395872]

>>2395071
those labels are terrible.

anyway, uh, I think repros in general are stupid. they're acceptable when made from original parts or if it's a game that you can't play on a flash cart (VRC7, FME7, etc.), but otherwise you are encouraging morons to destroy original games when you could just buy a fucking flash cart.

>>2395095
tell that to all of the return of the joker carts that got sacked to create mr. gimmick repros

and the countless neo geo AES carts destroyed to convert MVS games

moreover, most repros have TERRIBLE label art, box art and manual art. why anyone would want that sort of trash on their shelf is beyond me.

>>2395164
ugh, way to go assclown. why the fuck would you tell people about this.

>>2395276
rose colored gaming. they charge literally hundreds of dollars for these things.

>>2395281
it can be done quite easily, the question is who would bother.

>>2395302
You can already build NES, SNES and Genesis games from 100% new parts.

>>2395409
what >>2395432 said, Starfox 2 makes sense because you can't play it on a Flash cart. A Terranigma "repro" costs half of what a flash cart costs. Just get a flash cart.

>>2395529
what is "gamesack"

[Anonymous No.2395873]

>>2395302
>with the advent of 3D printing, there shouldn't be any sort of need to "sacrifice games"
It's not the plastic case they're after, you know.

[Anonymous No.2395874]

>>2395864
I think the items that RoseColoredGaming makes are of high quality but it's kind of shitty they are making money off of somebody else's work, unless they are sending a little bit to the fan translators but that is doubtful. They are also very pricey and always sold out, but I do enjoy browsing what they make.

[Anonymous No.2395953]

>>2395478

does the avgn own a lot of repros? I know he has some castlevania ones...

[Anonymous No.2395976]

>>2395302

Can you 3D print the special chips and roms too? Because else you still need a "donor".

[Anonymous No.2395983]

>>2395976
One day we'll be able to 3D print complete electronics, including retro consoles and CRT televisions. You'll be dead before that day comes.

[Anonymous No.2395984]

I wanted to buy RetroZone's repro of Mr. Gimmick!, but when I put aside enough money for it, they had stopped selling it. Really bummed me out.

[Anonymous No.2395997]

Is there any website that sells self-produced flashcarts? As in, not destroyed Duck Hunt/Mario carts?

[Anonymous No.2396019]

>>2395983
We'll make flat screens with CRT response times before that.

[Anonymous No.2396049]

>>2395061
My flash cart is a wonderful thing, and while I might like a repro for a game like earthbound (for the sake of the game starting directly), i am very pleased with my flash cart overall. It works well and is convenient to copy saves onto and off of. (wish there were better MMC5 support for 'Just Breed', though).

[Anonymous No.2396051]

>>2396019
what about black levels and color accuracy?

[Anonymous No.2396059]

>>2396049
more recent image with better CRT

[Anonymous No.2396067]

/vr/ should be changed to /fc/ for "Flash Cart".

If any topic is directly or indirectly about hardware, it turns into a flashcart circle-jerk.

Can't we just talk about, you know, the original topic for once? Do we always have to praise flashcarts?

[Anonymous No.2396078]

>>2396067
Sorry that most of us aren't retarded enough to buy reproduction carts.

[Anonymous No.2396096]

any one get any for virtual boy?

[Anonymous No.2396101]

>>2396051
Hopefully in the future there won't be any blacks.

[Anonymous No.2396110]

>>2396101
hitler plz

[Anonymous No.2396114]

>>2396110
I'm not Hitler you fucker. Hitler is obviously dead and there's no way I could even live that long.

[Anonymous No.2396156]

>>2395061
I make SNES repros, also certain NES repros, have a website and such. Did you have any specific questions? I'd be happy to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.2396159]

>>2395091
>and all that money is made not only on the back of the original devs/publishers
There are literally thousands of game stores that do the same thing by selling used games you fucking white knight faggot. It's a video game, get the fuck over it you pretentious faggot.

[Anonymous No.2396176]

>>2395457
>implying only gooks can make repros because he's too fucking stupid to understand how it works
I'm in the US, and I make repros you stupid nigger.

[Anonymous No.2396179]

>>2395086
>uncut
Hate to tell you this OP, but that's not completely uncut. It's kind of an older incomplete job of more than one done.

[Anonymous No.2396181]

>>2396179
>OP
Yeah I know he's not OP, I don't know why I typed that.

[Anonymous No.2396370]

>>2395181
why would anyone want an image of a $1,000,000 note, hitler's diaries, or a painting?
for a personal collection
you can justify using flash carts and emulating this is just a way, we have the games on our shelves and not reselling.
if you think we're dumb with our money? ok, but it's ours to spend

[Anonymous No.2396371]

>>2395872
the labels are as bad as a standard cart, have genesis ones that are foil

[Anonymous No.2396378]

>>2395976
in most cases you can make repros out of 100% original parts.

the only time you cannot is when a specialized chip is involved, such as:

Starfox 2 (SuperFX)
Mr. Gimmick (FME-7, you can do this with a mapper hack and lose the expansion audio though)
Lagrange Point (VRC-7, this won't even fit into a NES cart shell because it's too big)

You get the idea. Pretty much everything else can be reproduced using 100% original parts (shell and PCB).

>>2395997
Krikzz uses new shells for Everdrives. Is that what you are asking?

>>2396067
yes, because destroying original carts when it isn't necessary is stupid.

if you use original parts, which most resellers don't, different story.

>>2396156
link to website please

[Anonymous No.2396404]

>>2395061
>Repro

It's just Pirate with another name. Getting money for others work. Better get just the rom, instead enriching those scum making money with selfproclaimed "but the original are so hard to get hurr durr"-faggots.

[Anonymous No.2396406]

>>2396378
Ehhh, I'd rather not post the website on 4chan, I can provide some pictures as proof though if you'd like.

[Anonymous No.2396410]

>>2396378
>Krikzz everdrives
Yep, that is what I was talking about, but damn, those things are expensive.

[Anonymous No.2396440]

>>2396406
My question is probably the least interesting, but how do you go about making your labels? Those look nice.

[Anonymous No.2396442]

>>2396440
>photoshop
>print to photopaper
>glue

[Anonymous No.2396451]

>>2396442
What kind of glue?

[Anonymous No.2396457]

>>2396451
Elmer's

[Anonymous No.2396471]

>>2396457
Really? For some reason I was thinking that wouldn't be good enough to keep paper and plastic together.

[Anonymous No.2396486]

>>2396471
Not the white glue stuff, the paste

[Anonymous No.2396496]

>>2396486
Gotcha

[Anonymous No.2396520]

I assumed this thread came up because of the controversy about the recent Turbografx CD repro set

https://youtu.be/Wrt27X2frjI?t=22m35s
https://youtu.be/hYUV1rIkL3I

[Anonymous No.2396536]

>>2396378
I always thought it was kind of a shame to sacrifice one cart for a repro (aside from old sports shit). Though it might be cool to 3D print some multi colored carts. Maybe if I can get a makerbot or something nicer...

[Anonymous No.2396548]

>>2396536
people dont seem to get its mainly sports shit for donors

[Anonymous No.2396552]

>>2396548
Even sports games deserve some respect.

[Anonymous No.2396556]

>>2396536
You're overestimating the quality of low end consumer 3D printers. If you're expecting something that looks anything like a nicely molded official cartridge you're in for a disappointment.

Those printers are great for creating functional cases, not so great for creating aesthetically pleasing ones.

[Anonymous No.2396560]

EPROMS die in a couple of decades and that's assuming they dont get exposed without protection stickers just once.

[Anonymous No.2396565]

>>2396440
We tried making our own for a while but they just kept turning out like shit, so we found some people down in Georgia that print them for us in bulk and ship them to us. They're excellent quality, and they actually recently started making two different types. The first time is like the pic above, and the other type is a bit more of a matte-look, more closely matches the original look and feel of an original SNES label.

[Anonymous No.2396589]

>>2396560
While they do apparently die, I think they are more resilient than people give them credit for. I've received old games with totally exposed windows and they worked fine.

[Anonymous No.2396598]

>>2396049
wtf, why is it so huge?

[Anonymous No.2396605]

>>2396598
It's an NES sized cartridge with an adapter. The Family Computer is small.

[Anonymous No.2397148]

>>2396605
>the family computer is small
I was amazed by just how small it was, even though I'd previously owned a top loader. The famicom is really, really small.
Also the adapter board takes some space. Wish I'd bought the 60 pin everdrive version, but I didn't have a famicom back when I was getting a flash cart...
>>2396589

[Anonymous No.2397150]

>>2396589
>>2397148
Whoops, forgot to reply to the second thing. Yeah, EPROM's are pretty tough if kept out of sunlight. And if you do get uncovered ones, medical tape is a good cover... cheap and reliable. That was IBM's standard practice in the 80's and 90's.

[Anonymous No.2397193]

>>2395538
Most properly "Mana 3" or "Third of Mana" if you want to sound like a shit.

[Anonymous No.2397204]

>>2396059
how do you have your fami hooked up to that sony monitor? it's just vga in, or so my googlefu tells me.

[Anonymous No.2397236]

>>2397204
That was a test with a VGA scaler. I don't recommend using one. However, I think with a FPGA I could 'convert' 15khz scanlines to 30khz ones by introducing a small delay. I think it'll be small enough that duck hunt will still work, so I think I'll try it.

[Anonymous No.2397237]

>>2396560
>>2397150

Cant the NES use Flashroms? or better yet, when is infinitelives will make a custom famicom board to being used in famicom repros?

i will tell you a confession.

I bought 2 famicom repros.......... and i tempted of getting another one for Baby Upa

[Anonymous No.2397241]

>>2397204
For my latest (better) acquisition, see here.
>>2397225
>>2392608

[Anonymous No.2397243]

>>2397237
yes, but you have to get them with a decent timing. 90ns or faster usually works. Also, you have to remap some pins, either by lifting pins or cutting traces.

[Anonymous No.2397256]

>>2396598
For an example of scale, Here's how big the entire famicom is compared to its controller. Note that the famicom controller is almost exactly the same size as a NES controller (discounting the rounder corners).

[Anonymous No.2397259]

>>2396598
>>2397256
also, for scale, see this pic. This shows its size compared to a NES and an american SNES.

[Anonymous No.2397262]

>>2397256
>>2396598
>>2397259
One more, for focus.

[Anonymous No.2397265]

>>2397256
>>2397259
>>2397262
whoops, I can get a sharper wide shot.
Also showing off at this point.

[Anonymous No.2397313]

So, what's the exact formula for Nintendium? Should be trivial to make a mold from a NES cartridge and then mold your own if you could get your hands on that formula.

[Anonymous No.2397346]

>>2396101
Oh you

[Anonymous No.2397374]

>>2396114
>there's no way I could even live that long.

[Anonymous No.2397471]

>>2397265
>>2397262
>>2397259
>>2397256
Where would I get the system for cheap? Would you recommend it?

[Anonymous No.2397517]

>>2396406
Just gonna post some more pics of some of my work if you all are interested. Timestamped this one as proof.

[Anonymous No.2397553]

>>2397517
Is it the original edition or Remodel, because i only managed to get Remodel to work on my flashcart (the original doesnt work), and i also realized how NONE of the two versions translate well while being played on real console, due to the sloooooooooooooooooooowdown and the broken design, and i been playing the Remodel edition!.

[Anonymous No.2397569]

>>2397553
It's the remodel, I couldn't get the original to work either, it must use a weird board chipset that I haven't tried yet. Kinda like all of the versions of BS Zelda, I can't figure out how to get any of those on a cart either. They al either just straight up don't work, or glitch out 1/2 way through the game. Here's some alternate label art I have for Parallel Worlds, I prefer this one.

[Anonymous No.2397615]

>>2397517
Does your Tactics: Ogre work?

I have a repro copy with bugged unit turns, basically you can just attack/move as many times as you like. It's playable but pretty tedious and I'm looking to get it replaced. The shell label is fine so I'd only want the board itself.

[Anonymous No.2397749]

>>2397615
Hm. I'd have to give it a test run. I have the PSP version of the game so I've never really had a reason to play through the entire thing, I've only turned it on to test to make sure it runs.

[ReproMan No.2397756]

>>2397517
This is also a really cool game that we make, it's a DBZ RPG, draw crads during battle type of thing. The only problem is that, though it is translated to English, the battle system isn't, so you have to memorize the different Japanese characters in the battle menus to know what the fuck is going on.

Gonna start adding a name to my posts as a side-note, I'm the repro picture guy.

[Anonymous No.2397768]

>>2397749
>>2397756
do you have an web store i can browse and order from?

[ReproMan No.2397775]

>>2397768
Yeah I do, shoot me an e-mail at [e-mail] and I'll give you the web URL

[Anonymous No.2397783]

Never checked out /vr/ before. Saw this thread. Thought some people might like to see how easy it is to make a custom cart. I want to make a cart that hold all games and has an arduino as a reprogrammable coprocessor to have my entire SNES library on one cart, but I have yet to design it...

[Anonymous No.2397786]

>>2397783
The schematic. Was a repurposed Super Mario World cart. I snipped the address lines on the ROM and piggy backed my own EPROM on the data and address lines. Works like a charm.

[Anonymous No.2397791]

>>2397786
The game will play on a TV, although for a screen cap I posted an emulated version. Fun project and really easy (hardware modification that is). I can load other games on to the EPROM, so it's kinda like a prototype cart.

[ReproMan No.2397793]

>>2397783
Easy to make, sure. Easy to make and have it look nice? That's a different story, pic very related. Also, the inside of the board is a mess. You should de-solder the old chip and just straight solder the new chip to the board. Less messy, and the less wires involved the less of a chance that it ends up getting knocked loose or just straight up not working after a while.

[Anonymous No.2397803]

>>2397793
I like being able to pull the EPROM out if I want to load a different program on the cart.

Unfortunately there is not enough clearance in the cart to fit a socket and EPROM. That's why I put the socket on top. I'm not going to defend my hardware hack, it clearly could be better. Also the sticker isn't nearly as pretty as yours (nor as well spelled), but having someone professionally print on glossy sticker is pretty sick.

Holy shit, I just realized I have access to a rapid circuit prototype machine at work; I could fabricate my own board! That may be a cool weekend project...

But like I said, really I want to go all out and design a universal cart.

[ReproMan No.2397816]

>>2397803
Nice. Yeah the stickers are tough, I outsource it as the ones I made were shit-tier quality. Wasn't meaning to be such a dick, if it works, it works.

[Anonymous No.2397825]

I bought a Star Ocean repro because I can't play it on my flashcart. It's good to be able to play the game on hardware, though I don't care much for the use of remake artwork on the label.

I would consider buying other repros for some games with translation patches in that exact circumstance. But I'd go for a genuine second hand cart in most cases of non-flashcartable games.

[ReproMan No.2397826]

>>2397517
More pics, also I know this'll irritate any lurking neckbeards because it doesn't say "Seiken Densetsu 3" on the cover.

[Anonymous No.2397830]

>>2397826
But it doesn't say 聖剣伝説3...

[Motherfag No.2397843]

Just a few I bought on ebay, complete with translation patches. Zero was 20, while 3 was 60. The irony is the only mother game I dont have is the one officially released in america, mainly because I can't afford the increasingly high price of it.

[Anonymous No.2397894]

>>2395171
i don't think it's possible to sound more pompous lmao

[Ninja-X3 No.2397945]

I got a repo cart of Lobo, I even did a video about it on youtube.
https://youtu.be/W2aDWAzl-us

[ReproMan No.2397950]

>>2397768
Eh fuck it, the web URL is-
http://reproparadise.com
PayPal gave us issues when we tried to set up a checkout system on the site, so any orders placed are sent to us via e-mail, and we manually send invoices through PayPal.

This is not in any way me trying to boost website sales, I mostly do this for my personal collection anyways, but take it for what it's worth. A few people asked for the URL in this thread so there it is.

[Anonymous No.2397965]

>>2397569
I think it was because of the damn headers thing, funny tough i couldn't get Remodel to work properly either, i just got it to run by pure accident after a few failed attempts, no joke.

[Anonymous No.2397968]

>>2397843
It's on the Wii U Virtual Console for $10.

[Anonymous No.2397969]

>>2397783
>having the EPROM window unprotected
>taking photos

UGH DUDE!

[Anonymous No.2397973]

>>2395103
Loved that game, only jrpg I've ever enjoyed.

[Motherfag No.2397984]

>>2397968
If I wanted to emulate I'd do just that though. I'd prefer a cart

[Anonymous No.2398005]

>>2395281
I could make this 2-in-1 easily.

[Anonymous No.2398014]

>>2395529
>Gamesack viralling with a Rose Colored Gaming cart.

[Anonymous No.2398018]

>>2395984
I could do you one without slaughtering a ROTJ cart. It'd still require you to do a simple audio mod to your NES like the REtrozone one did.

[Anonymous No.2398107]

>>2397969
Eh, I have an eraser and a programmer. Plus I wanted to see what would happen. Haven't noticed any bits flip under florescent light either, although it's possible.

[Anonymous No.2398118]

>>2396378
>VRC-7,
sorry to be that guy, but what does the VRC-7 do?

[Anonymous No.2398276]

>>2396520
ew. wtf is this.

at least they aren't CDRs.

>>2396548
they do, it's just that the whole "it's just sports games!" is a shitty justification and, arguably, a slippery slope.

it's even weaker of an "argument" now that you can create reproductions composed of 100% original components.

>>2396560
you'd need to expose an unprotected EPROM to direct UV light for at least 5 mins to cause any serious damage. but, you are right that they will succumb to bitrot within 10 years or shortly thereafter, necessitating replacement or a reburn.

>>2397265
that is an impressive collection of old-ass shit.

well done.

>>2397825
yes you can play it on a flash cart, there are fully decompressed versions that play just fine.
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/614/
the SDD1 serves only to decompress data on the fly.

sorta related: do you own the retrozone repro, or some other hack job? the retrozone repro is quite nice as it uses original parts, no EPROMs.

>>2398118
bank switching (for data decompression etc.) and adds 6 channel FM synth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memory_management_controller#VRC7

[Anonymous No.2398356]

>>2396049

damn, you're living in a shithole

[Anonymous No.2398369]

>>2397783
>that fucking wired hack job
haha, oh wow

[Anonymous No.2398378]

>>2396552
there was an overabundance of one sports game, I think one of the maden games.

[Anonymous No.2398383]

>>2398276
>"it's just sports games!" is a shitty justification and, arguably, a slippery slope.
that isn't the reason they are used, it was because the market was saturated with certain sports game that was originally used, and there are tons of new copies still being sold for dirt cheap just because there are so many copies that the game is worthless.

[Anonymous No.2398487]

>>2395872
Holy shit, is there not a single producer of realistically priced arcade sticks?

[Anonymous No.2398558]

>>2397984
Yeah, but at least you're paying $10 to play it on an official Nintendo System.

[Anonymous No.2398564]

>>2398276
If you'd ever erased EPROMs you'd know what an incredibly strong dose of UV it takes to erase.

[Anonymous No.2398572]

>>2397783
>PHEONIX
>EO
are you fucking kidding me

[Anonymous No.2398604]

>>2398572
Brother made the label. It was a rush job for a gift. I didn't notice his spelling error until about 4a, and at that time I just said fuck it and had a good laugh. The screen cap show that I'm not as bad a speller as my brother.

[Anonymous No.2398618]

It seems like a colossal waste of money. If you're gonna go that route you may as well just get a flash cart.

[Anonymous No.2398853]

>>2397262
A VCR?

[Anonymous No.2398915]

I want to make a repro of Starfox 2 but I'm not sure what programmer to get. I can solder but this programming part is completely foreign to me and I don't want to spend a whole lot of money on something I won't use much.

It would be nice if I could just buy the eprom preprogrammed.

[Anonymous No.2398947]

>>2395061
>the power switch is turned rapidly on or off

WHY does this happen? I get told this about every single thing connected to electricity.

[Anonymous No.2399267]

I kinda want to get a GBA flashcart so I can play Mother 1 and 3 on an actual GBA. Been debating it. Emulating is far easier, but it feels weird. I like playing my stuff on real hardware.

Maybe I'll just put it on my Wii.

[Anonymous No.2399924]

>>2398915
Replacing a ROMis more complicated than soldering a couple wires. If you had experience replacing ROMs you'd know here to get a preprogammed EPROM. If you're sure you want to fuck up your SFX donor cart by trying for the first time on it I can tell you where.

>>2399267
Yeah, it's far easier to start up a PC, run an emulator and load a ROM than it is to plug in a cart and power on a GBA

[Anonymous No.2399975]

>>2398564
I have, and that was the point I was trying to make. You *really* have to try to mess up, let alone erase an EPROM.

Pretty much it'll only go bad from physical damage, deliberate attempts to erase or bitrot.

[Anonymous No.2399996]

>>2399924
I think an arduino (or something like it) could be integrated into a cart and used as a generic coprocessor whos task is to emulate specific chips like the SuperFX. If emulators are able to fake the specialized hardware, so can a microcontroller. Anyone interested in helping design a universal cart?

[Anonymous No.2400000]

>>2399996
Or would anyone be interested in buying a cart with that kind of capability?

[Anonymous No.2400081]

>>2399924
It doesn't seem to complicated going by this guide

http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=22&threadid=135828

Besides, it's not like Stunt Race FX is expensive or rare.

[Anonymous No.2400091]

>>2399996
>>2400000
Look up the SD2SNES. It has an FPGA to emulate co-processors. However it can't implement the SuperFX chip, as well as a few others.

[Anonymous No.2400173]

>>2399996
this exists, it's called SD2SNES, and the "coprocessor" you speak of is called a "FPGA"

basically, >>2400091

[Anonymous No.2400193]

>>2400091
as far as I know the only reason that it 'can't' emulate the SuperFX is simply because no one has wrote a way for the FPGA to emulate it. I believe it has the ability too, however, I just think it's somewhat trivial, since the only two games really worth playing that use it are Starfox and Yoshi's Island, which are rather cheap.

[Anonymous No.2400215]

>>2400193
Fine you pedantic ass, it CURRENTLY can't emulate the SuperFX chip. It doesn't chang the fact that it's been on the "To Do" list for a long time now, along with other chips and features.

[Anonymous No.2400407]

>>2400000
nice get

[Anonymous No.2400467]

>>2395315
If they just wanted to play the game they'd emulate or run it off a flashcart.

[Anonymous No.2400470]

>>2395061
Could anyone suggest a (ahem) flash card for the ds? I have the model that accepts (ahem) gba carts. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.2400474]

Flashcarts are fine. Repros are cool and all but I don't really see the point unless you have money to burn.

[Anonymous No.2400476]

>>2400470
If you have an ahem) GBA style flashcart I'll trade you a DS flashcart with MicroSD for it.

[Anonymous No.2400479]

>>2400470

Ask the Homebrew general if you want.
The gold standard for DS games is the Supercard DSTwo. Works on everything, unlike older cards which have problems on newer systems. You also get a GBA and SNES emulator with mixed results.
If you want to play GBA games natively, you'll need something else like an EZ Flash IV. That can run DS games natively too if you have flashed firmware (can be done with a native DS flashcart) but compatibility is likely to be spotty.

[Anonymous No.2400549]

>>2396520
>spend time working on a translation
>get upset when people use it
wut

[Anonymous No.2400567]

>>2395529
Because Gamesack did a repro cart video weeks ago, in which they basically said "yeah, they're okay I guess"?

Full retard.

[Anonymous No.2400614]

>>2400091
>>2400173
I wonder if going FPGA is really neccessary? My point being is that the SNES runs at 3.58MHz and the SuperFX2 at 21.4MHz.

Eh, looking at Arduino, the Due runs at 84MHz. That probably isn't enough speed to emulate a full blown SFX2. Maybe there is a faster microcontroller out there, but I see why people went FPGA.

Anyway, what would be nice about a software solution is that a microcontroller could store many more chip definitions than an FPGA. Also the microcontroller could be used to handle memory mapping from a high density storage device, which would be useful in implementing a game library selection menu (of course FPGA could do this too).

Just kicking a few ideas around.

[Anonymous No.2400914]

I own a few repro carts that I bought on impulse, the only one I really sought out was the (not retro) Mother 3.

My terranigma cart has weirdly warped plastic though so I'll probably print a new label and swap the shells.

[Anonymous No.2401290]

>>2400914
nice

[Waterworld Box-Chan No.2401518]

I personally have no problem with repro carts as long as the games are either homebrew or ones that weren't physically released (ex. Starfox 2, NTSC Wily Wars)

Pic related: some reproduction carts I happen to own.

[Anonymous No.2401548]

I recently got a cart for secret of mana 2 with an english translation patch and custom label/box/booklet

though I generally just use my flash cart

[Anonymous No.2401605]

>>2395482
>being this much of a picky, bitchy wife

>>>/kitchen/

[Anonymous No.2401606]

>>2399996
An arduino is the wrong tool but it's feasible with programmable logic. As others have pointed out, others have tried.

>>2400081
>spawn of drakon+FSM...seems
Always the googler never the googleie? When you've done it yourself maybe >0 people will value your opinion.

>>2400091
>can't
Hasn't yet. It will happen eventually. Sooner than PSIO

>>2400614
Many people go with programmable logic because it's the only way to accurately reproduce the chip and they're MAME tier autists. Cost and Pin count is also an issue. The Due has roughly half the IO pins you'd need.

[Anonymous No.2401695]

>>2398276
>do you own the retrozone repro
Yeah. It's pretty good.

[Anonymous No.2401914]

>>2400614
something to consider: higan needs like a 2ghz CPU or something stupid to run well.

>>2401695
nice, i'm admittedly jealous. i'd love to own it someday. the retrozone stuff is really nice.

[Ah Sah-Him No.2403338]

>>2401518
>
Nice collection there.

[Anonymous No.2403475]

>>2399996
Why not just allow piggybacking another cart that has said chip(s)? Would that not work?

[Anonymous No.2403523]

>>2403475
It works with some chips like DSP1. Others not. Old chink systems let you piggyback that and even modern clones like the ED let you rape a cart and the solder the the DSP into it. I think the modern UFO lets you piggyback the DSP.

[Anonymous No.2403601]

>>2396059
>McRib Is Back

[Anonymous No.2404673]

Confused...

[Anonymous No.2405904]

>>2400467
If they just wanted to play that particular game? I'm not so sure.

[Anonymous No.2406375]

I won a couple of Repro carts, and yes some people have asked me what the point, but most people I show them too think they are pretty cool. I usually only get one or two every year when I have a little bit of extra money. I just ordered a repro of Energy Breaker for SNES (since I am a big Trigun fan) and should be getting it in about a month, I also got Battle Kid 2 in the mail last week and it is pretty cool!

[Anonymous No.2406379]

>>2406375
Heres a custom Tenchi RPG for SNES repro that I had made by a reproduction site, the label design was made with gimp by my brother.

[Anonymous No.2406381]

>>2406375
I like Retrozone's Homebrew Games too and my buddies had a great time playing Battle Kid to see how far each of us could get in it.

[Anonymous No.2406382]

>>2406375