CINCO DE DOOMYO

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CINCO DE DOOMYO Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:09:32 No.2384906 [Reply] [Original]

DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>2376850
(We mainly talk Doom, but Unreal/Duke/Quake/Marathon/whatever are also welcome! Let's post like gentlemen)

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===WHERE DO I GET WADS?===

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##Our WADs can be found here!##
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===POPULAR MODS===

/vr/:
200 Minutes of /vr/: http://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=17781
Colourful Hell: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47980
Demonsteele: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5302
GMOTA: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=742401
HDoom: http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/tagged/hdoom
Metroid Dreadnought: http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=4561
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Shut Up And Bleed: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47302

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:10:06 No.2384908

===NEWS===

[05-04] Interview with Kaiser regarding Powerslave EX
https://powerslaveex.wordpress.com/2015/05/04/techraptor-interview/

[05-02] SUAB update
>>2378145

[05-01] Endless Survival (Invasion with continuous spawns) v0.4
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5811#pid80814

[04-30] OMG Weapons and Monsters! V3 - THE REBIRTH
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48463

[04-30] Source model for BFG/TEKWALL/EXITDOOR/etc found
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72599-

[04-29] Retro Jam 3 for Quake has been released
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61203
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/retrojam3.html

[04-29] GMOTA Zandronum port in preliminary stages
>>2373546

[04-29] Deterministic Doom (effects of constant RNG) now with video
http://jmtd.net/log/deterministic_doom/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvfJoy1rjmo

[04-27] Marathon Skins v0.8
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=5897

[04-26] HDoom techdemo 7 released
http://hdoomguy.tumblr.com/post/117443743997

[04-26] Doom / Mario crossovers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTXXOG6u3M8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQ9kRevYUU

[04-24] The /newstuff Chronicles #475
http://www.doomworld.com/php/topstory.php?id=4402

[04-22] Romero's spring-cleaning: DoomEd source, unused maps, graphics
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doom-general/72509-
http://www.doomworld.com/vb/doomworld-news/72504-

[04-22] Contra Doom (a new one modelling Contra III, not the one from the pastebin)
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48392

[04-21] Push v0.7 is out. 70 maps -- /vr/ debates if the term "gigawad" is deserved.
http://zandronum.com/forum/showthread.php?pid=80536#pid80536

[04-21] TheZombieKiller's resource collection, now all in one thread
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=48386

[04-19] At Doom's Gate (E1M1) remade entirely from Mario 64 samples
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vxqtt8q8d4

===

Please reply to this post with news.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:12:59 No.2384916 File: 39 KB, 537x636, 1293577851081.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >not cinco doomayo

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:13:14 No.2384918 Any cyberpunk mods for Doom? SP or MP. Quake and DN3D are fine, too.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:21:40 No.2384926 File: 430 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot_Doom_20150505_132045.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384918 update soon (tm)

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:24:54 No.2384931 >>2384926 nah, ded mod

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:25:57 No.2384934 >>2384916 You could have said, in the previous thread where it was suggested (>>2384156). But, you didn't.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 13:37:14 No.2384939 >>2384841 >Odd question, does anyone know how the doors in Doom work canonically? I'm sure one of the books explain this, right? >Do they use pressure locks like most scifi doors? Asking again for new bread >Capatcha: Select all bread below

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:17:58 No.2384995 >>2384926 What's the map?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:18:48 No.2384998 >>2384995 cyberpunkshootdown or showdown, i don't remember but it's pretty fun

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:21:29 No.2385000 File: 53 KB, 480x320, doom_shooter_android_1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:25:07 No.2385006 File: 22 KB, 320x200, Doom-E2M4LiftSwitch11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2384939 I always assumed it was hydraulic from the sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXqDc6I1NP8 The lifts also have hydraulic parts

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:33:55 No.2385019 >>2385006 isn't that the sound used in AtM?

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:35:02 No.2385023

Are there any mapping tutorials that actually teach you how to map. All the tutorials I've found are just how to do individual things or use editor functions. There are no tutorials about the actual grit of mapping. Film school doesn't just teach you camera filters and lens options, Why does the Doom community feels that's fine for teaching mapping?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:35:23 No.2385025 >>2385019 This is the sound used in Quake 2

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:35:40 No.2385026 File: 149 KB, 1024x768, dr_doom_by_clayton_crain_by_superman8193-d5kj0qa.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Were there any wads based on Fantastic Four and picrelated? So many years have passed, I'm sure someone did make it

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:37:32 No.2385028 How compatible are Doom mods with Chex Quest? Could I load WADs into it, or gameplay mods like Brutal Doom?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:47:45 No.2385038 File: 554 KB, 1059x553, vr-quake-poll-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://strawpoll.me/4276941

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:49:12 No.2385041 File: 231 KB, 1920x1080, maxresdefault (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so 3D Realms just released a shit ton of games on steam, does anyone know if they are quality ports or just dosbox shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:50:08 No.2385042 >>2385041 I'm pretty damn sure it's usual dosbox shit

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:52:08 No.2385046 >>2385042 That's basically how most all dos era games are, save for some very popular exceptions. And some of those are because of fans.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 14:52:10 No.2385047 >>2385042 I'm gonna wait and see if anyone complains about it being dosbox garbage before I buy, I just really wanna play Hocus Pocus without having to run dosbox.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:23:49 No.2385095 Guys, sooooo can I use tag 666 (or achieve a similar effect) in a map that isn't in one of the pre-determined spaces (Map07)? I'd rather not use Zdoom scripting and shit, there has to be an old school Dooman trick to do it.

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:24:48 No.2385097

>>2385047
It most likely is just the original game wrapped with DOSBox, though I don't know what's so terrible about that to call it "dosbox garbage"

And if you just want Hocus Pocus, you can buy just that game over at GOG for just 6 bucks while on Steam you have to buy that anthology thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:35:14 No.2385123 >>2385095 Unless you use Commander Keen, then unfortunately no. In doom 2 and final doom, Map07 is the only map you can use tags 666/667, and only with Mancubi and Arachnotrons.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:39:26 No.2385134 >>2385123 So that's why Scythe 1&2 both have the same kind of map with mancubuses and spiders as regular Doom 2, I was kind of wondering what was up with that.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:46:47 No.2385152 >>2385134 It was hardcoded into the game as a set piece. Doom 64 was the first doom game with a proper script system.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:47:22 No.2385156 >>2385134 Yeah. There are unfortunately a lot of mapsets that felt obligated to make a dead simple tribute because of those tags.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:47:41 No.2385158 >>2385134 Those aren't the only ones. Practically every megawad has a Dead Simple clone.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:52:25 No.2385173 >>2385156 >>2385158 why dont people just make a normal map instead of dead simple clone?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:52:56 No.2385180 >>2385158 TNT, The MMs, Icarus, Eternal Doom, and the BTSX series don't.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:54:00 No.2385184 >>2385180 Valiant doesn't, neither. Instead it makes a creative use out of tag 666 instead.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:54:07 No.2385185 >>2385173 Because the Doom community is full of lazy faggots?

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:54:23 No.2385186

>>2384918
I don't know if I'm talking trash right now, but judging by the screenshots alone, TekWar seemed very cyberpunky to me. But I never played the game/got into the franchise, so I don't know anything. Since it's not a mod and a build engine game, it could also be a bitch to run on modern systems.

Anyone knows if it's any good & playable?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 15:59:30 No.2385197 >>2385180 It's mostly a product of Plutonia/HR doing it. The exceptions were either stuff made before Plutonia/HR or stuff where a primary member of the team is one of the most vocal haters of Dead Simple in the Doom Community. >>2385184 Vanguard did

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:01:52 No.2385205 >>2385197 >a primary member of the team is one of the most vocal haters of Dead Simple in the Doom Community. I think this is the very case with BTSX. E1 only uses tag 666 for a secret, and E2 doesnt even use the tags at all.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:05:25 No.2385217 >>2385197 >>2385205 out of interest, who are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:10:38 No.2385235 >>2385217 I don't actually know in particular. I'm just speculating.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:10:42 No.2385236 >>2385026 A good Dr. Doom game should be an RTS/TBS/city sim.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:20:01 No.2385262 File: 2.31 MB, 640x360, brutal chex.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385028 >running Brutal Doom with Chex Quest. This actually is a thing.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:25:11 No.2385271 >>2385262 >MG has no ballsack 0/10, would not play

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:36:25 No.2385298 >>2385262 >using conventional weapons against flemoids >making the problem worse for chexguy

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:40:22 No.2385314 >>2385262 wow, samsara took kind of a weird direction

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:53:48 No.2385350

>>2385023
Gonna respond to an hours old post here because it opens up my point well.

If you need to be 'taught' game design, its best if you just stop. If you can't inherently tell what is and isn't engaging gameplay, even after a lifespan playing vidya, you will never be able to make anything fresh or interesting and will just keep copying from the book.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 16:56:18 No.2385353 >>2385262 i knew Mark made a brutal chex (as a joke) but this is pretty neat to see

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:02:01 No.2385363 >>2385350 This is a bad point said by someone who doesn't know anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:08:27 No.2385370 >>2384916 >>2384906 this op you fucked up

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:40:42 No.2385418 >>2385023 This might sound silly, but the old 1995 book "Tricks of the Doom Gurus" has a pretty good mapping tutorial that goes over most of the Doom engine basics. There should be a PDF floating around somewhere

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:42:56 No.2385424 File: 264 KB, 260x146, 1395632693755.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If by some strange circumstance Doomguy was chosen to be in Smash 4, what would some of his moves be? NIGHTMARE MODE: his aerials

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:50:43 No.2385436

>>2385418
>There should be a PDF floating around somewhere
The PDF is available inside the CD for "Instant Doom Levels"
https://archive.org/details/cdrom-doom-level-master-2
And seems like with this new layout for Archive.org has either gotten rid of or hidden the option to look inside archives/iso files for individual files.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:51:52 No.2385438 >>2385424 >Strange circumstance The fighter ballot is still open,imagine if just,y'know,everyone here voted for Doomguy

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:52:35 No.2385442 >>2385424 little mac without jumping

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:53:04 No.2385443 >>2385424 What aerials? He'd keep his normal moveset even when airborne.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:59:02 No.2385456 >>2385424 Uses archviles and rocket launcher to jump

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 17:59:20 No.2385459 >>2385424 ...as soon as he jumps, game set, because all jumping does is sequence break.

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:08:31 No.2385473

>>2385424
>NIGHTMARE MODE: his aerials

Not very difficult. His default equipment is a fist and pistol. He punches dudes for ground attacks, uses pistol for aerial/tilt attacks, chainsaw for smash attacks. B is shotgun, Smash B is super shotgun, down B is a directional chaingun that freezes him in place but fires a constant stream of bullets, and up B is rocket jumping.

Final Smash is either BFG or summoning an Icon of Sin to pepper the place with enemies.

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:14:26 No.2385483

>>2385023
what would such a mapping tutorial consist of anyway? i've never been to film school, what do they teach that is the equivalent of what you want from a mapping tutorial? i imagine there's a fair amount of "studying the classics" which works equally well for mapping. after all, taking other well-regarded maps apart in an editor to see how they were put together is something you should be doing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:19:46 No.2385487 >>2385473 >final smash BFG or icon of sin >not a berserk pack for Wario man tier levels of stronk Anon please.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:25:35 No.2385502 >>2384906 >Not "Cinco DooMayo" YOU HAD ONE JOB

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:27:22 No.2385507 >>2385502 you're l8 m8 >>2384916

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:33:00 No.2385517 >>2384926 What am I looking at?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:33:27 No.2385518 >>2384916 COUGHopisafaggotCOUGH

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:36:29 No.2385520 What's your favourite hell themed map, doombros?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:38:22 No.2385524 >>2385438 I haven't voted yet, could you give a link?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:41:39 No.2385530 >>2385524 Sure anon https://cp.nintendo.co.jp/us/

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:43:21 No.2385538 >>2385438 Too bad, I voted for Zero

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:45:05 No.2385540 File: 137 KB, 189x246, WORRY.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385438 >tfw voted marco >could've voted red savarin >or guile

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:50:28 No.2385552 >>2385487 >actually wanting berserk over BFG I bet you main Wario too, you sick fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 18:53:21 No.2385558 >>2385530 cheers

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 19:24:37 No.2385612 >>2385424 Pfft ez Neutral air:ST Railgun shots Up air: SSG to the air Down air:ST Greanade Back air:Q3 Gauntlet bash

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 19:31:50 No.2385628 >>2385612 >Skulltag weapons >Q3 weapons you fucked up

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 20:12:40 No.2385697 >>2385473 >up B is rocket jumping How is that a recovery move? You cant rocket jump without ground below you.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 20:24:28 No.2385719 >>2385697 He fires at himself.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 20:43:20 No.2385759 File: 141 KB, 440x278, 9e5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385552 >I bet you main Wario too, you sick fuck Yes. Yes I do

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 20:46:51 No.2385765 >>2385628 Doomguy is in Quake 3 though

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:08:04 No.2385821 File: 2.93 MB, 640x360, uhoh.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] new Spider Mastermind boss for OMGWPNS V4, WIP

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:11:27 No.2385831 Is there such thing as a BFG zombie?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:15:02 No.2385838 >>2385821 That's fucking cool. Can you make this into a wad that changes this to the standard behaviour for any Pain Elemental?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:19:37 No.2385841 >those plasma rifle guys in Scythe 2 What the FUCK

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:25:17 No.2385847 File: 1.49 MB, 240x180, Nope.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385821 >it spawns hitscanners

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:25:26 No.2385849 >>2385424 I'd be perfectly fine with a Doom Guy/Crash costume for Mii Gunner, considering my main is, well, Mii Gunner.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:29:29 No.2385859 >>2385838 http://deathz0r.unidoom.org/omgwpns/painintheass.pk3 enjoy anon

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:38:15 No.2385875

>>2385697
Doesn't stop Sonic from spawning springs from the middle of the air.
Or Mega Man from using Rush Coil when Rush needs to be on the ground normally to use it.

Perhaps Doomguys rocket blows up right as he fires in the air. Or perhaps firing the rocket makes him fly upwards somehow but not as high as if he were still on the ground and blown up by the rocket.

Lotta possibilities.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:39:32 No.2385881 File: 51 KB, 247x234, 1423357285173.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385859

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:40:27 No.2385884 >>2385859 I love you, deathz0r.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:40:45 No.2385886 >>2385697 Mii Gunner rocket jumps, even without ground.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:57:05 No.2385912 >>2385849 I'd just make a Doomguy mii and built a Mii Gunner with a futuristic motif.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 21:58:26 No.2385914 >>2385912 Yeah, but having an official outfit would be nice.

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:03:48 No.2385918 [DELETED]

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>>2385041

>decide to go on steam to see what they released out of curiosity
>type in 3d, see duke megaton editon
>and plain duke 3d
>click on it, it's just the plain dos version, nothing special
>$40 PRICE TAG (currently discounted to $30 cus of a discount)

IT'S 30 DOLLARS MORE THAN A REVAMPED VERSION OF THE GAME WHERE YOU COULD JUST TAKE THE FILES FROM AND USE DOSBOX/EDUKE SEPARATELY.

A DOS GAME BEING RERELEASED IN 2015 IS BEING SOLD AT $40 WHILE THE HD VERSION IS CHEAPER

>MFW A DOS GAME IS BEING SOLD IN THIS DECADE AT $40

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:06:12 No.2385924 >>2385884 thanks anon! I have nothing to do at work and I don't expect much work to come in today, so I want to do a DECORATE jam session for the next four hours, give me small requests and I'll see what I can do ps. not a drawfag

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:10:53 No.2385934 [DELETED]

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>>2385918
>decide to go on tpb and see if they have douk
>type in "duke nukem 3d"
>results give me $40 dollars worth of games for free
>$40 FOR FREE (currently discounted to free because free)

IT'S FREE. STILL FREE. HAS BEEN FREE ALL OF 2015, 2014 AND ON BACK. I CAN PLAY IT IN DOSBOX/EDUKE SEPERATELY AND NOT HAVE TO PAY VALVE.

A DOS GAME BEING STOLEN IN 2015 IS BEING FREE WHILE PEOPLE PAY $40 FOR THE SAME GAME ELSEWHERE.

>MFW A DOS GAME IS BEING STOLEN IN THIS DECADE FOR FREE

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:17:35 No.2385945 >>2385924 Launcher rocket Its a rocket that launches rocket launchers

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:33:29 No.2385963 >>2385924 A shotgun that shoots lightning.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:34:50 No.2385968 File: 219 KB, 552x624, zw51jx94.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385841 >just the plasma rines Oh boy I loved that while it lasted

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:44:12 No.2385984 >>2385945 >trying to multitask >took too long for this http://deathz0r.unidoom.org/omgwpns/launcher_rocket.pk3 replaces rocket launcher

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:52:23 No.2386005 >>2385924 A gun that uses your current movement momentum to amplify its damage?

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 22:57:02 No.2386010 >>2385963 I have an idea that could look cool, give me 30 minutes

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:04:00 No.2386018 >>2385924 A gun that shoots in literally every direction.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:04:17 No.2386019 >>2385963 >>2386010 If it gibs an enemy, the lighting should hit the next closest target.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:05:33 No.2386021 >>2385963 >>2386010 TSP already has this

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:07:53 No.2386025 >>2386021 good

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:11:05 No.2386027

>>2386021

The one in TSP is more like a shotgun that fires a slug that explodes into a small spark of lightning and it's kind of underwhelming. A shotgun shooting actual lightning arcs that bounce around walls and off enemies would be awesome, like the Thunder Bow and Thunder Sniper from the EDF games.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:11:56 No.2386029 >>2386021 Yeah but 1: TSP isn't getting updated, 2: it's a bad weapon, and 3: Just because someone else already did it doesn't mean it can't be done better

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:16:10 No.2386036

>>2386005
This please (but being a powerfist-like glove replacing the normal fist, giving you more attack speed instead of flat damage so the berserker pack isn't obsolet)
If you hit beyond certain speed threshold the enemy flies backwards and hits more enemies

Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:21:34 No.2386039

>>2386027
>it's kind of underwhelming
But it looks like an actual electrical arc though, not a sprite lightning cutout.
It also looks better (because it goes longer because it's only for effect, not damage) in DemonSteele than it does in TSP.
>A shotgun shooting actual lightning arcs that bounce around walls and off enemies
Do you want it to last more than a couple of tics or does it hold a single position momentarily and then vanish. Like does the arc wiggle or does it do a second of static flash like a real electric arc?
>like the Thunder Bow and Thunder Sniper from the EDF games.
Lemme look those up.
>>2386029
>2: it's a bad weapon
What would you improve about it? What did you dislike about about it? Did you try it on Big Guys like the mancubus?
>3: Just because someone else already did it doesn't mean it can't be done better
There's a better script version that exists and does exactly the line of lightning from the gun to (and through) the target but circumstances prevent it from being released.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:24:08 No.2386042 >>2385236 or ActRaiser clone

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:37:27 No.2386058 >>2385963 >>2386010 http://deathz0r.unidoom.org/omgwpns/lightningshotgun.pk3 that went better than expected

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:39:34 No.2386060 >>2386018 anything specific? >>2386005 not really sure how to do this, admittedly I haven't messed around with ACS in DECORATE, sorry anon :(

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:45:24 No.2386064 >>2386058 >tested it beyond MAP01 >kills demons in one shot reuploaded with better balancing, I might put this in OMGWPNS if I tweak it enough

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:49:31 No.2386069 >>2386060 A_JumpIf checking for momx and momy

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:50:12 No.2386071 >>2386039 Shut the fuck up Scroton

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:50:44 No.2386072 >>2386058 Rad. Not quite lightning, but looks really cool nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:52:18 No.2386074 >>2386071 wow rude

>>	Anonymous Tue, May 5, 2015 23:53:10 No.2386076 >>2386071 it's with a lowercase s and are you the guy that keeps telling me to kill myself?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:00:43 No.2386087 >>2386069 oh yeah, duh, let's see what I can do >>2386072 thanks, I'm still not up-to-date with DECORATE tricks and I'm making these Zandro-compatible, I'll have to look into actual lightning attacks later

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:21:20 No.2386107

>>2386029
>It's a bad weapon

>Shock shells kill shit like Mancubi and Barons of Hell in 2-3 shots
>Hellfire shells one shot Mancubi and Arachnotrons
>Poison gas rounds literally shits on everything if you hit the feet of a monster directly to prevent a bounce
How is it bad exactly?

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:28:04 No.2386110

>>2386039

It's not necessarily the visual effect that's underwhelming, it's the function. The arcs only travel as far as roughly the space occupied by one target and I end up treating it as nothing more than a slug that does massive damage to a single target, not unlike high damage low rate of fire weapons common to many other mods and games. It would be more interesting if it were made to be a more situational weapon. Maybe make the lightning arcs do way less damage but they travel farther and bounce around walls. The weapon would then be rather weak when used in open space but devastating in small enclosed areas where the arcs can bounce and hit enemies multiple times.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:39:11 No.2386124 so am i being retarded or is there no doom download in the op?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:40:55 No.2386125 >>2386124 You're being retarded. Check the pastebin links.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:41:21 No.2386127 >>2386125 thanks bro

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:42:46 No.2386130

>>2386110
I get what you're saying.

The reason it doesn't create more arcs is because it's a limit of the way that the decorate-only lightning achieves it's lightning effect--there are a bunch of little invisible actors that spread out and randomly change direction, spawning more invisible actors along the way, and then when the first actor hits a wall or floor (not another actor) they all change state and create a lightning arc. The problem is that this ends up being severely laggy (at least on my toaster) when there are a bunch that fail to hit anything, and it gets worse the longer you give them to find a wall before they all disappear. The other thing is because it doesn't happen instantaneously, the longer you give them the more you may have to wait for an arc to spawn and it looks silly when one spawns 5 seconds after you shot anything.

I made those back when I didn't really understand ACS, or any programming language, and could only do decorate. I was meaning to go back and replace those with a script that would make longer and more numerous arcs with less performance drain and no failed arcs. I know exactly how I'd do it but I never got around to it and now I'm no longer involved in tsp so it probably won't get done, at least not by me.

If I ever end up doing another mod, and that mod happens to have lightning arcs, I'll definitely do the script and have longer arcs and/or ones that bounce. Probably also a lightning gun that shoots lightning straight from the gun, and not just shells. Maybe a different color for each for flavor.

Also to general people reading this and not just the poster I was replying to:
I went ahead and gave deathz0r everything I have related to lightning arcs over irc. If you took a peek at the tsp code you probably already have it but if anyone on here is interested I can go ahead and post it here (and do a little write up explaining everything) for you guys as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:44:16 No.2386131 >>2386130 Also forgot to mention: you can see the laggy effect I'm talking about in-game if you shoot a flying enemy like a cacodemon when they're up in the air and not near a wall or a ceiling.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:47:49 No.2386134 >>2386005 OK HERE WE GO http://deathz0r.unidoom.org/omgwpns/momentumgun.pk3 replaces plasma rifle, damage calculation ranges from 1-20d5

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 00:55:43 No.2386139 >>2386134 reuploaded, decided to go with 1-20d7 since it was too weak

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 02:35:36 No.2386249 >>2386036 done something that gives more attack speed for the fist with more momentum but I'm pretty sure that I'll need to resort to A_CustomPunch for the kickback, and that's a lot of effort for berserk pack support

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 02:45:08 No.2386261 File: 1.02 MB, 960x540, mystery.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Carmack send help. I am not good with computer.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 02:48:28 No.2386264 File: 19 KB, 275x410, 765893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386261 >that ending

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 02:48:39 No.2386265 >>2386261 HEY HOW'S IT GOIN

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 02:57:58 No.2386274 File: 30 KB, 320x320, whyhellothere.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386261

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 03:53:40 No.2386326 >>2386261 My sides.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 04:08:29 No.2386336 >>2386261 Can you not?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 04:17:37 No.2386345 So i made myself a dehacked patch the doubles the move speed, attack speed, and projectile speed of every monster.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 04:29:52 No.2386351 >>2386345 Isn't that what Fast monsters does?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 04:32:43 No.2386358 >>2386351 Well you could run that patch WITH -fast for even faster monsters.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 04:37:04 No.2386365

>>2386351
Nope.

-fast, Only monster to actually get their movement and attack speed adjusted is the Pinkie/Spectre. Only Imps, Cacos, and Knights/Barons get projectile speed increases, and they arent even doubled. Only thing -fast actually does which my dehacked doesnt, is double the attack chance of monsters.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 04:59:14 No.2386387 >>2385924 >give me small requests and I'll see what I can do How about a DoomImp that shoots mini-sized shotgun guys who shoot mini-sized cacodemons foreach shotgun pellet?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 05:16:27 No.2386401 >>2385821 >Spits out chaingunners. It was a god damn joke, no one had to make such a thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 05:20:26 No.2386403 File: 2.94 MB, 700x394, zandronum 2015-05-06 05-11-41-27.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Made a light shotgun that gets stronger in bright areas and weaker in dark areas. It's a gimmick weapon, but I like it and want to expand on it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 05:25:05 No.2386409 >>2386365 Will it work with custom monsters or the original monsters edited by other mods, then?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 05:25:30 No.2386412 >>2386387 this idea is amazing, here ya go http://deathz0r.unidoom.org/omgwpns/badassdoomimp.pk3

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 05:31:54 No.2386417 >>2386409 I'd imagine it'd have conflicts.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 06:12:47 No.2386445 >>2386403 So do you plan on having a gun for light and a gun for darkness?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 06:17:13 No.2386447 File: 25 KB, 1341x498, freelook.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386261

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 06:19:46 No.2386449 >>2386447 10/10 anon

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 06:35:49 No.2386458 >>2386447 cute

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 07:05:16 No.2386473 >>2386130 Please do post your code

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 07:48:06 No.2386506 Does the build engine have a GZDoom equivalent? Something for Blood, Witchhaven, Exhumed, Redneck Rampage and so on.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 07:53:51 No.2386510 >>2386506 >Something for Blood You're funny, you know that? You should take that show on the road.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 07:56:50 No.2386515 >>2386403 Ikaruga X Doom? I see potential here

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 08:00:23 No.2386520 >>2386506 >sourceport for Blood Will literally never happen in our lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 08:07:43 No.2386528 >>2386520 >>2386510 Haha, I know, I know i'm such a joker. Glad we could all have a laugh. But since we're already on the subject, let's talk about why..

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 08:12:47 No.2386530 >>2386528 https://archive.moe/vr/thread/2041051/#2046982 i don't think anything's changed since then. has it?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 08:21:28 No.2386541 I'd pay Doom 64 EX guy to do Blood, i'd pay him everything I could.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 09:22:19 No.2386614
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>>2386249
Thank you based weaponbro

>>2386520
>mfw randomly reminder of this fact

>>2386541
I am almost sure of two endings for this (if you're really going to do it):
>First scenario "Old arcane forgot knowledge"
The sourcecode was actually lost and nobody gives a shit now you try to re-use what exist and everyone is happy with the revival of Blood.

>Second scenario: "The Blizzard Way":
Activision or whoever has the code (which is not lost but filed), sends you a DMCA complain or some shit like that and forbids all people to play around with the code until ~10 years after they dissapear from history, which will never happen on our lifetime

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 09:38:20 No.2386630 File: 1.53 MB, 1748x2550, balanced_gameplay.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386401

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 09:56:00 No.2386653 >>2386541 me too. not all, but some anyway. >>2386614 source code isnt lost m8

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 10:18:35 No.2386670 So, I've been gone for three months. Have any significant wads been released? >>2386630 I laughed.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 11:05:54 No.2386730 >>2386630 cracks me up every time

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 11:18:21 No.2386756
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>>2384908
>There's a powerslave port for modern pc in the works
>It's of the console version
Holy shit hype, I've been wanting to play this for years but FPSing with a gamepad makes me cry internally

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 11:18:35 No.2386757 >>2386447 Where can I find more pictures of this imp

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 11:30:02 No.2386781 File: 37 KB, 618x158, owo3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386757 fragg-ed tumblr com he is a pretty cool guy

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 11:56:44 No.2386825 What are the best maps featuring added/edited creatures or creatures from other games such as Blood. Stuff like Unloved, Torment and Torture, City of the Damned and so on.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 12:15:54 No.2386850 >>2386825 Psychophobia is one.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:03:28 No.2386905 File: 12 KB, 350x493, smt_sj_8785.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Doom: Strange Journey when?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:06:46 No.2386909 Every single day I try to run PrBoom-plus at 320x200 and fail to get it set up correctly. It's ruining my life.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:14:55 No.2386920 >>2386905 for real? if you find a way to get dialog boxes in doom, it can be done in month

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:19:26 No.2386928 File: 95 KB, 500x497, Diabolical Pondering.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386920 >if you find a way to get dialogue boxes in DOOM Pretty sure that's something Stronghold has already.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:19:43 No.2386929 >>2386920 >if you find a way to get dialog boxes in doom That's pretty easy, it's just a lot of work.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:23:05 No.2386937 >averaging ~15k dmg a second in rpg/rla without the red aura

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:25:26 No.2386940 >>2386937 what mapset are you playing on, anon? epic2 is a favourite of mine with drl/rpg

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:34:45 No.2386952 >>2386920 I dunno, I haven't made any WADs before. If I'm doing it, I don't want to fall into the usual "Big expectations" trap, so it'll probably be a weapon/enemy thing at the most for now, until I get experience.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:42:25 No.2386965 Anybody have that image on mapping styles? Or mapping guides?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:46:33 No.2386972 File: 343 KB, 1920x1080, 350080_screenshots_2015-05-05_00001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:52:08 No.2386982 File: 63 KB, 586x533, Hissy2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386972 Hissy hogging has been a long tradition.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 13:55:00 No.2386987
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>>2386445

I don't know. This is so stupidly early, everything's still up in the air.
The idea was a warrior of light who uses light/fire based weapons that get stronger in light but peter out in the darkness. To address maps with a bunch of dark areas, he could absorb the light in sectors above normal brightness in order to brighten up dark sectors, but it looks like there isn't a way to be able to change only the brightness in one single sector the player is in; all sector light commands go off tags, and a tag of 0 affects pretty much every unmarked sector.

Alternative idea is to make light an ammo source that you can recharge in brighter sectors, and in dark sectors you have a (limited ammo) lantern or gem or something you can use to flood the area with A_Light for a temporary reprieve in health/ammo/power.
Or if you think there's a better idea, I'm all ears.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:06:27 No.2387013 >>2386940 Hell revealed 2, but I'm not really liking it that much. Anyway, is it only me or does drpg kind of.. lack direction? Feels like there's a lot of things that don't really serve a purpose.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:09:47 No.2387019 >>2387013 A lot of things like?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:10:32 No.2387023 >>2387013 Yeah, I agree with you. It feels like he just took a bunch of systems from various RPGs and stuck them together with chewing gum, instead of developing a single cohesive system that fits with the game.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:15:45 No.2387035 File: 124 KB, 600x600, DID SOMEBODY SAY SUNLIGHT.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386987

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:16:41 No.2387039

>>2387019
>>2387023
What this guy said. Augs, stims and skills work almost exactly alike in practice, they just differ in how you activate them and the rareness of the resources needed to use them. Then theres the quest system that feels really out of place, and a really weird stats system that's above all not any fun.

As a counterexample, take fallou:new vegas. its' the best rpg system for an fps i know.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:17:18 No.2387042 >>2386987 I don't think it'll really work as a gameplay mod, Term. It would work really well as a PC/TC, but there's just too many conflicts with other maps.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:19:28 No.2387046 >>2387039 I dunno, I like DRPG's system a lot more than I like F:NV.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:45:53 No.2387101 File: 682 KB, 1920x1080, Screenshot_Doom_20150506_170527.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This kills a cyberdemon in like 4 tics

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:57:32 No.2387116 File: 41 KB, 320x276, django.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386987 thats some boktai shit right there even the same problems that game had.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 14:59:35 No.2387123 >>2387101 Then you should crank up the monster difficulty.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:08:30 No.2387140 File: 323 KB, 1366x768, Screenshot_Heretic_20150506_210128.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you dorks think of heretic?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:09:10 No.2387142 so uhh any chance for /doom/ to make another 200 minute megawad?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:12:08 No.2387151 >>2387123 A vanilla cybie that is, the ones i normally encounter take a couple of seconds.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:14:27 No.2387156 >>2387142 I'd rather we do something different if we do another community project.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:18:38 No.2387161 >>2386987 this is a pretty avant-garde idea it sounds extremely interesting, but i would want to play it to make sure

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:23:41 No.2387167 >>2387156 anything would be good imo, just gave 200 minutes as an example mapping theme? or gameplay gimmick? or maybe linedef limit? some sort of collab would be really nice

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:25:35 No.2387170 >>2387140 It's pretty cool, why?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:40:29 No.2387194 >>2385097 dosbox garbage is harsh, I mostly just dont like using dosbox because it is difficult to enable mouse.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:42:08 No.2387196 >>2385424 >already made doomguy as a mii gunner he plays pretty similar to how I would expect doomguy to play

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:45:41 No.2387203

>>2387140
I like the aestethics more than DooM.
Back when I was a kid, Heretic was my favourite shooter. I prefered it to Doom (though I played through all four iwads) , Q and Q2.
Then Unreal came out and I shifted my dedication to it instead. It remains my MOST favourite FPS to this day.

I rediscovered Doom and pwads at the time Legacy became popular (2001-2002), and played through a lots of wads in splitscreen with my friends

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:51:56 No.2387207 >>2387140 a shit cool music tho

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 15:57:07 No.2387220

>>2386987
Maybe make it FUNCTION differently in differnt light conditions, like:

Dark: shoots lots of slow, bouncing, affected by gravity balls of darkness. Wide spread, chaotic.
Spread depends on light level, lighter->tighter spread but less balls to accomodate for that, each ball does more damage to keep dps constant.

Not so dark: Shoots slow, not bouncing, not affected by gravity balls of darkness, tighter spread., same way affected by light

Medium level: a singular dim ball, does more damage

Moderately bright light: A spread of light shots like in the vid, lighter means tighter spread, less rays.

Very bright: continuous beam of light.

Make it with gradations so the weapon gradually shifts in the way it works, and add some sort of graphical indication of the current state on the gun itself, and you'd have a weapkn mod on its own.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 16:13:58 No.2387238

>>2385047
I have the pack and yes it's just the games packaged with DOSBox. No changes or anything to keep it modern.

I tried playing Blakestone earlier today and couldn't even change controls to WASD or ESDF because neither W nor S can be reassigned.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 16:25:33 No.2387257

>>2387194
I can understand that, have you just been using the stock DOSBox build or have you tried the Daum SVN build? Might be a bit better for mouse stuff.
http://ykhwong.x-y.net/
I also find it better since it allows for easier customization while running and also allows for the current config to be saved to a file.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 16:42:00 No.2387274 Scythe 2 got 3hardcore5me on map23, this is somehow a worse clusterfuck than slaughter maps.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 16:46:03 No.2387286 >>2387274 Yeah, I kind of hated that.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 16:50:13 No.2387293 >>2387140 In some cases, the weapons are much more fun to use, especially with the Tomb of Power.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 16:56:21 No.2387308 >>2387293 >Tomb of power That sounds like the name of a rock band

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:07:53 No.2387326 Here's a thing I did. http://vocaroo.com/i/s0dkSGxcI2dh

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:08:30 No.2387328 >>2387308 >That sounds like the name of a rock band Your mom sounds like the name of a rock band

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:12:53 No.2387336 >>2387326 Better Cuck Arch

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:17:05 No.2387347 >>2387336 Actually, it's Better Call Skull.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:33:32 No.2387373

>>2386987
>>2387220
Basically this, behaving differently in different light conditions would be a good and quick way for players to know what area they're in without needing the hud.
Considering how light changes from sector to sector, though, going from shotgun to bouncy ball launher to pew pew laser seems too dramatic a difference

Maybe just a different shotgun effect, going from bullets to tracers to fire to whatever?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:55:04 No.2387410 Back to Saturn X has some baller as fuck music.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:57:02 No.2387418 >>2387410 that it does. that it does. I also love it's blue-shifted palette.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 17:58:08 No.2387420 >>2387410 it does it's also really pretty

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:02:24 No.2387425 File: 338 KB, 800x660, bruh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2387326 >>2387336 wat did I just hear

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:04:24 No.2387432 File: 25 KB, 393x380, earthworm jim having a stroke.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2386261 >>2386447

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:05:59 No.2387434 >>2386447 >>2386261 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:15:16 No.2387454 File: 98 KB, 375x500, clothes pin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2387326

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:22:28 No.2387465 >>2387432 >that fucking filename I love you fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:46:02 No.2387504 I always got a huge Doom vibe from this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYY5WgEMT-I I really feel like stealing it for a map

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:50:00 No.2387515 >>2387504 to me its this track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxI1yz1gx-E

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:50:28 No.2387516 What are some good singleplayer invasion maps?

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:52:00 No.2387519 >>2387516 stronghold. but it's hard as balls

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 18:55:09 No.2387523 Listen to The Tower by Huntress. Major vibes

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 19:01:23 No.2387532 File: 98 KB, 417x474, 1428097630274.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2385041 Ohh fuck nigger it's cosmo!

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 19:06:57 No.2387540 >>2387504 >>2387515 >>2387523 I always thought that some prodigy tracks could work really well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdXmQEGuwDw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHkxs5OBBo

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 19:10:59 No.2387547 >>2387540 >not this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ccrvbf6CBE

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 19:58:13 No.2387632 >Playing doom this weekend for hours. >Get Sick >39,5 c° fever >Nightmare induced fever >Im the doom marine, on a infinite stream of Archviles, Cyberdemons and everything. >Try to wake up. >I Cant.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 20:12:45 No.2387657 File: 156 KB, 480x762, fun_nui.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2387632 I'm jelly

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 20:13:11 No.2387658 >>2387632 >the feeling of having played hours of Doom without breaks >fever nightmares >imagining both of these combined AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 20:20:16 No.2387671 >>2387632 >GOTTA GET A GRIP

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 20:27:20 No.2387681
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>>2387161

Yeah, no guarantees it'll work. It probably won't!
That's the point of experimenting, though. I like trying out weird ideas and seeing how they do. Maybe it'll be cool, maybe it'll crash and burn.

>>2387220
>>2387373

Sure, different effects for different light levels sounds good. I'd prefer the function to remain the same for the reason anon said--since sectors can change lighting so dramatically (especially with something like flickering lights or strobe effects), having a weapon change from a shotgun to a beam would be wildly inconsistent.

>>2387116

Looking up this game, it seems rad as shit.
The gun looks like the jankiest goddamn thing, though.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 22:11:20 No.2387865

You know, I'm not even bothered with the fact that Ty has been absent for a couple of weeks (he's probably on a sabbatical, a well deserved one)

It's just that the last three uploaded WADs in the /idgames archive being terrywad crap makes me wonder what kind of greek god we angered to deserve this

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 22:31:53 No.2387893 File: 649 KB, 300x300, 1422068467091.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw 4 levels into Eternal Doom What are your favorite WADs with gigantic levels?

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 22:37:26 No.2387902

I know it won't happen, but I kinda wish there was a source port for specifically DoomRL Arsenal and DoomRPG that would generate levels every time you start it up, that way you could play more faithfully to Roguelike's permadeath without having to open Oblige every couple of minutes.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 22:39:16 No.2387905 >>2387893 Epic 2, probably one of my favorite wads of all time next to DTWID.

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 22:42:54 No.2387909

>>2387902
If I recall, you can run Oblige via command-line so you could make something like what you're talking about. Have it run Oblige with randomly selected variables for each selection, save wad, load wad with Doom RLA+RPG and sourceport of your choosing.

I remember also seeing some fork of a source port that included an older version of Oblige integrated into it. Can't remember what it was though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 23:01:01 No.2387934 >>2387902 >without having to open Oblige every couple of minutes. Stop dying so much

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 23:03:43 No.2387937 >>2387909 >>2387934 This is possible?

Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 23:14:39 No.2387950

So are there any Doom mods that take the concept of techdemons and play with it? Like medieval demons with catapults on them or something? Or victorian monsters with old guns and machinery? Stuff like that?

It'd be really cool if someone wrote a story teasing a symbiotic relationship between Demons and Humans where they stole technology back and forth from each other.

>>	Anonymous Wed, May 6, 2015 23:34:54 No.2387974 >>2385095 What do those tags do?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 00:03:55 No.2388013 >>2387974 lower/raise tagged sectors when certain enemies die reading wiki doesent kill you

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 00:08:14 No.2388021 File: 18 KB, 480x360, lv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] quick, what is the best levels from Doom 64 and why are they Terror Core-Eye of the Storm?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 00:09:59 No.2388028 >>2388021 My favorite, at least visual wise, is "In The Void"

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 00:42:33 No.2388095 Can you go back to levels that you already beat in Doom RPG? What kind of RPG is it if you can't grind endlessly?

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 00:44:27 No.2388101

does Dark Forces count

i've been trying to play it but i quit on the second level because the design is retarded. the first level was annoying enough having enemies above you that you can't shoot because HUUR can't look up/down but then there's a platform below you on level 2 that's swarming with stormtroopers. you can use keys on the number pad to look up down, but i'm not going to do that every single fucking time a level designer decided we need more stormtroopers directly above or below you where the auto aim is always miraculously a few pixels off hitting its mark.

i tried DarkXL which i guess you could say is kinda like DF's zdoom but it's a buggy mess, could barely get it running and it crashes after i finish the first level. it's a real shame cause a Star Wars Doom clone is a novel idea but it's flawed design wise from the get-go.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 00:45:59 No.2388106 JUST CAME BACK TO CONFIRM THAT IN BRUTAL DOOM V20-TEST MAY 5TH THAT MARINES DUPLICATE UPON ADVANCING A LEVEL this is on gzdoom 1.8.10

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:05:25 No.2388126 >>2384906 Es hora de jugar PERDICIÓN

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:22:15 No.2388149 What are some good maps to play with russian overkill besides Chillax/Dark Tartarus?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:33:27 No.2388165 >>2388106 Try updating GZDoom?

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:40:32 No.2388175

>>2387937
If Oblige can indeed be activated from the command line, it is indeed possible with either shell scripts or general scripting like python.

You make a script that would:
>take "-file" directives as arguments
>run oblige with randomised parameters
>launch zdoom + the oblige wad + args
>monitor stdout for doom death strings (zdoom puts messages on stdout when run from the cli)
>if (death message){pkill -9 zdoom}
>delete the oblige wad
>give the option to do it all again...

The big "if" is whether oblige has a cli interface...I haven't played with it much, so I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:46:46 No.2388186 >>2387893 Castle of Evil UAC Experiment Memento Mori map28

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:52:48 No.2388196 >>2388175 It does have one, it's referred to in this thread http://oblige.sourceforge.net/forum/index.php?topic=301.0 You can either use params in CLI or looks like you can load them up via config file.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 01:53:27 No.2388201 >>2387893 Anything from hellbound but man, that map 29 is something special

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 02:23:36 No.2388238 LOL https://youtu.be/4QvutXZh4Hs

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 02:27:26 No.2388241 >>2388238 wrong tab or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 02:28:43 No.2388242 >>2387893 BTSX E2 Deus Vult Epic 2 Eternal Doom

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 02:30:16 No.2388245 >>2388165 >1.8.10 Unless he has a recent nvidia card, I don't think he can.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 02:40:33 No.2388256 >>2388238 I think you have the wrong topic, friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 02:49:14 No.2388264 >>2388101 Count for what? I've been playing DF also, and it does have some fucking stupid level design. But occasionally there's a good one with a decent gimmick. Too many mazes though. Not sure if I'm going to finish it before moving onto DF2.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 03:09:40 No.2388274 I wonder what it'd have been like if Final Doom actually made changes to the iwad properties, like what levels use tags 666/667, and what levels contain secret exits.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 03:27:53 No.2388284

>>2388274
it would have been completely different, because it would have been made by a completely different set of mappers, because it could only have been made by people with access to the source code, which in 1995 would have been either id themselves, or a commercial licensee.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 04:48:25 No.2388341 File: 56 KB, 531x471, 1411018101888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2388101 >The poop monsters in the third level.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 05:28:27 No.2388362 >>2388264 >Count for what? Our fathers told us to never be ashamed of our FPSes

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 06:31:39 No.2388404 >>2385026 I remember playing a wad were you played as Dr. Doom and fought against soilders and superheroes like the X-Men and - for some reason - Spawn. Can'T find it though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 07:36:51 No.2388464 >>2386447 toppest kek

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 08:17:02 No.2388519 File: 1.15 MB, 720x360, This side project isn't dead yet, honest.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Well that's 3 weapons down, only another 6 to go

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 08:19:28 No.2388521
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What do you guyz think of PRODOOMER (a plot-driven, hubby gzdoom mod) ?

My thoughts:
It has some good ideas and implementations, and it's clear that there was some great effort put into it, but there's an awful lot of outright poor gamedesign choices and rough edges. Its amazing how rough and unrefined it feels. To me it looks that there was near to no betatesting outside of the mapper himself.
But despite all the bad stuff I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 08:41:04 No.2388543

>>2388519

Speaking of this weaponset, I may as well once again throw out the last few weapons that may not quite be set in stone yet so that they may potentially merge better with the rest of them:

Fist: Special gauntlets that grant heavy punches with primary fire, secondary throws out scrapper shots, scrapper ammo is gained when firing other weapons except for the pistol. (scrapper scrappers, slug n slag)

Rocket Launcher: HEAT missile launcher, primary fires fast flying rockets with a strong hit, but a weak and small splash, secondary fires a lobbing grenade with a weak hit but a strong and big splash.

Plasma Rifle: heavy machine gun, sprays slugs everywhere that rip through monsters, disappates after a set distance travelled. Secondary might possibly be a burst of super heated plasma flames to cook fuckers up close

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:33:52 No.2388586 File: 490 KB, 241x233, 35w4te8.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2388521 >that HUD

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:43:25 No.2388593 Fuck off shit eating doom babbies. Casual fucking retards go back to Halo already.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:47:32 No.2388597 Doomshits.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:52:25 No.2388603 >>2388593 >>2388597 u [agitated]?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:53:21 No.2388606 >>2388603 Not really. I am enjoying shitting on you shitty casual doomcucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:54:22 No.2388607 Doomcuckolds.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:54:35 No.2388608 What are some good wads with new monsters? One thing I particularly liked about Unloved was how there were lots of extra monster types.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:59:04 No.2388612 >>2388608 >>2386825 >>2386850 try dem ones

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 09:59:42 No.2388613 [DELETED]

I hate every single faggot itt apart from myself.

You are literally the worst thing that ever happened to Doom.

You are all so fucking gay it hurts.

I bet none of you even have any friends haha. That's why you hang out itt all day and circlejerk, because irl you don't have lives and suck balls lol.

>OMG GUIZE
>WE'RE PLAYING DOOOM
>OMG WE'RE SO KEWL XD
>OMGOMGOMG DOOM, LIEK, WEE WERE PLAYAN HAYLOW N COD, BUT NAO WE PLAY DOOM CUZ WE THINK IT MAKES US PATRICIAN LOLOLO
>HERE ANON CAN U SUCK MY DICK CUZ I PLAY DOOM????
>YEAH XD
>KEWL, CAN I SUCK UR DICK WHILE U SUCK MY DICK AND WE TRY TO TALK ABOUT DOOM?
>LOLOLOLO OK ANON HERE IT CUMMMMZZZZZ :PPPPPP

ahahahahaha shitty doombabbies. The most cancerous community shitting up our benevolent board. A shitstain on the canvas of /vr/, to be sure.

I hope you all die tonight.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 10:03:20 No.2388617 File: 52 KB, 320x200, Particle smashing is cool.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2388519 >>2388543 Oh and have a gif of the particle smasher shotgun. Shivers is the man with sprites.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 10:07:35 No.2388620 >>2388613 well now u just 2 3dgy 2 be mo mature than 13 yr old a very agitated 13 yr old

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 10:09:24 No.2388623 >>2388620 stfu doombitchbabby

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 10:10:29 No.2388625 Anyway I'm out. Got better things to do. Remember though Doomcucks: you're all faggots and are an utter disgrace to this game and even 4chan. Fuck off and die.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 10:11:30 No.2388628 >>2388625 >Got better things to do. like playing on a dead port, l1t?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 11:39:15 No.2388718 >>2388264 i wasn't sure if DF was made on the Doom engine or was just a Doomlike

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 11:41:18 No.2388721 >>2388718 Doomlikes are allowed here. It uses the Build Engine though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 11:50:26 No.2388739 >spider masterminds infight with eachother Holy shit what, how have I never seen that before.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 11:58:28 No.2388752 >>2388739 I think there's only one map in Doom 2 where it's possible.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 12:09:19 No.2388763 >>2388752 map26 from MM1 is probably the best example of it happening.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 12:31:46 No.2388791

>>2388721
It used Jedi Engine, not Build and was released before the Build was finished. It was closer to Doom but allowed some features that were later implemented in Build such as voxels and room-over-room (not at the same time though). In fact it is closer to Doom64 engine than to Build or Doom

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 12:37:34 No.2388795 Is it possible to disable aspect ratio correction on certain sprites?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 12:56:48 No.2388823 >>2388795 And why would you want to do that?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:02:15 No.2388828 >>2388823 If I make a sprite, but I want it in it's original aspect ratio.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:12:42 No.2388842 >>2388828 But why dont you want it to be aspect ratio corrected?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:14:10 No.2388845 >>2388842 I am nit picky about my sprites being the way I intended them to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:16:44 No.2388848 >>2388845 That's a pretty dumb reason.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:19:34 No.2388850

>>2388848
>>2388845

It really isn't, there's nothing wrong with wanting sprites to look like how they actually are rather than 20% taller.
But unfortunately for his purposes, there's no way to disable aspect ratio correction without changing the code of the game itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:21:33 No.2388858 >>2388795 In ZDoom via the XScale property or via textures. I think decorate will parse XScale (5/6) correctly but if not then XScale 0.833333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:22:31 No.2388861
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>>2388739
It happens because of their method of attack.
Hitscanners are able to trigger any demon to infight with them, even with their own species. That's why any horde of zombies like shotgunners end up infighting. Whereas projectile users like cyberdemons can only trigger other demon species to fight them. Their projectiles aren't set to damage other demons of their kind.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:23:07 No.2388863 >>2388858 That won't work on HUD sprites.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:24:46 No.2388868 >>2388863 Then do it via textures, like I said in my post. I don't think HUD textures are given the 1.2 stretch anyway though.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:25:48 No.2388872 >>2388868 they are

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 13:27:51 No.2388874 >>2388165 Not a viable option for some people. >inb4 toaster

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 14:42:41 No.2388976
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So I tried to edit the decorate to get colourfullhell and the newest OMGWPNS to work together. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? https://mega.co.nz/#!M94kQTLJ!q1h45aKr9N1heTDpX0F55dFmcM8_PL45i0Qp_nh6XSU

>>	The Skeleton Man !MAxPETUTTk Thu, May 7, 2015 15:10:17 No.2389042 >>2388101 I can't tell if you're retarded, or don't know how to play the game, considering it has an auto-aim that automatically fires at targets on a higher or lower level, just like in DOOM.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 17:58:02 No.2389275 >>2388021 Watch Your Step is the one I enjoyed the most.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 17:59:00 No.2389278
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>Playing with Colourful Hell and DoomRL Arsenal
>Suddenly swarmed by hundreds of green pinkies
>No idea where they came from, they seem to appear out of nowhere from a spot on the map
>Barely manage to dig through them with a demolition ammo chaingun with 4x ammo
>Monster count has gone from 400-ish to over a thousand
That was fun, but what the hell just happened?

>>	Yholl Thu, May 7, 2015 18:05:25 No.2389289 File: 44 KB, 272x260, aagh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2389278 >Blood on bodies is red >Blood on walls is green AAAAAAAGH >Moving fucking captcha AAAGH AAAGH AAAGH AAAGH AAAGH AAAGH AAAGH AAAGH

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 18:07:40 No.2389294 >>2389278 >>2389289 looks festive and yeah these mobile friendly captchas need to go

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 18:15:24 No.2389313 File: 20 KB, 327x298, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2389289 >>2389294 I seriously don't get why people are always complaining about the retarded new captchas and don't just switch back to the noscript ones.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 18:18:52 No.2389318 >>2389313 i seem to lack an option to switch

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 18:22:48 No.2389325 >>2389318 Oh, well you need some kind of extension/user script I'm using ccd0's 4chanX I don't know how you live like that anyway, vanilla 4chan is pretty shitty.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 18:41:29 No.2389364 >>2389325 I wasn't even aware of this and I've had the script for a while. Imma spread the word on this.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 18:48:56 No.2389378

>>2388850
>It really isn't, there's nothing wrong with wanting sprites to look like how they actually are rather than 20% taller.

You literally just said the reason here

>But unfortunately for his purposes, there's no way to disable aspect ratio correction without changing the code of the game itself.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:02:51 No.2389402

Guys what if Doom 4 was like the classic game, except with better graphics. And jumping. And with enough new weapons to fill 1-0 two per slot on the keyboard, and secondary fire modes. And dual wielding with ANY weapon you have two copies of. And lots of new monsters.

Id should hire me as their new idea guy, since they haven't had one since Romero left.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:09:51 No.2389414 >>2389402 Classic game with better graphics and jumping would be just fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:11:08 No.2389417 >>2389378 What? Just because it can't be done doesn't mean the reason is dumb.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:11:47 No.2389420 >>2389402 I think that for better or worse, it is going to be Brutal Doom HD. I hope it won't be, not because I won't enjoy it, but because it would perpetuate the idea that BD is a direct upgrade of Doom and the savior of the series.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:19:40 No.2389434 >>2389402 >complex, abstract level design in a modern FPS >implying any publisher would allow this

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:19:59 No.2389435

>>2389414
Isn't that just what many GZDoom "beautification" mods are? Smooth Doom? And Doomsday.

You don't want "classic game."

You want "reimagined classic" - i.e. same concepts (run around, solve puzzles in non-linear levels/environments, dodge projectiles, kill monsters), redone on a modern level of standard.

Oh, and for a game to be as successful as originals, new DooM would need to be easily moddable, which is unlikely to happen due to ID's new megatexture fetish, which does more harm than good.
Main problem with Doom3 - it ditched the old concept, and many shooters that posed themselves as "Doomy, Oldschool" didn't really get what Doom or oldschool fps were about, and degenerated into linear boring arena-fests. Serious Sam, Painkiller, some others - they all claimed that they will be "like Doom but better".

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:23:41 No.2389439 >>2389435 Was Serious Sam marketed like that? Seems weird since it wasn't very doom like at all but was actually really good anyway.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:24:25 No.2389442

>>2389435
>You don't want "classic game."
Yes I do. But with actual new levels and modern graphics. That means actual new assets, sounds, models and textures, not just some shitty bloom mod slapped on top of the original. I want the original gameplay, perhaps with a couple of small embelishments like jumping or so forth with modern technology. From a development standpoint that is literally not hard, but Bethesda is retarded and will fuck it up by attempting to broaden their customer base or whatever the fuck they call watering down gameplay.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:24:41 No.2389443

>>2389434
Not necessarily abstract. Just nonlinear would be fine too.

Abstract level design doesen't work well with modern graphics, and any attempt to do that will result in the same as some over-detailed ZDoom maps - lots of unnecesary details that may hinder gameplay itself.

Also, how's WRACK going? Heard it was bad, not going to buy it to check it out.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:27:18 No.2389450

>>2389414
Seriously though, after playing the official Doom iwads and many custom wads, I'd like to see more guns to play with, more types of enemies and maybe some new game mechanics in a new official game to really take it to the next level.

For new mechanics, for example something like you could crit enemies if you hit them in certain locations like heads for extra damage or cybernetic limb borders to dismember, but the weapons that can hit critical locations would be extremely few so the game doesn't revolve around trying to headshot everything.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:28:37 No.2389457

>>2389443
Still works, just much harder to implement. I'd be totally fine with abstract or even procedural generation in some parts/an infinite dungeon/challenge mode.

Here's my prediction: New DooM 2015 (2016 more likely at this point) will be good, but it won't be Doom except in name, it will sell well but not excellently, mods will suck dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:28:54 No.2389459 >>2389402 >>2389450 You're a shitty idea guy. It's not even hard, yet you managed to fuck it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:29:19 No.2389460 I want Doom 4 to be like GMOTA, just to be contrary.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:32:03 No.2389464 File: 1.70 MB, 1360x768, i c red.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so, this is what happens when you use gzdoom with bandicam

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:34:59 No.2389470 >>2389464 Why would you ever use banidcam anyway?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:36:17 No.2389472 >>2389464 Silky smooth 10 fps. What CPU and graphics card do you have? I can help you with that.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:36:35 No.2389473

>>2389439
Initially Croteam stated that they want to recapture the Doom experience and be different than back-then-modern-games in the process. They ended up with their own thing.

Painkiller dev's stated the same, and ended up copying parts of Serious Sam design choices. Not the best ones.

>>2389442
Have you read the entire post or just that line?
You just restated my point. That would not be a "classic game", but "reimagination"

Reimagining would work - making level with same basic premise, only with modern features in mind. Kinda the way KDiZD did it, only on a new engine and on professional level.

Also the way you describe it sounds just like that Doom 3 Classic mod (remake of KDiTD on D3 engine). and it's not that great.

>>2389457
The last games that did the mix of modern semi-realistic and abstract design well were Unreal and RTCW. All further attempts failed miserably. If you know of an example that contradicts this, I beg you to post it (I'd really want to play it).

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:40:40 No.2389478 >>2389473 >Also the way you describe it sounds just like that Doom 3 Classic mod (remake of KDiTD on D3 engine) I literally mentioned that all-new levels and assets were a must. D3CM is the opposite of that.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:44:32 No.2389492

>>2389459
Did someone say they want to hear more? Because I heard someone say they want to hear more.

What if you had a new ammo type that was like tungsten spikes or something, and you had a gun that shoots the spikes, and if the spike kills an enemy it launches the corpse and either nails it to a wall, or to an another enemy, and if an enemy gets stuck with a corpse it takes damage and gets slowed down by the weight. And if you kill a guy that has corpses stuck on him with the spike gun, all the corpses go to the next target along with the recently deceased enemy too.
And then the other guns that also use the spikes as ammo would be a railgun that's really powerful, pierces enemies and can hit critical locations (the only toher guns that could hit them would be the pistol and the disk launcher), but it also uses energy cells to fire in addition to the spikes.
And the last gun that also uses the spikes would be the disk launcher, like you could see it inject a bunch of the spikes onto a magnetic field on top of it, and then they melt together in the air and form this perfectly round spinning razor sharp chrome disk that has a crazy high chance to dismember or decapitate things if you hit a critical location with it.

And the spike ammo carrying capacity would be really low so the gimmics are used sparingly.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:45:12 No.2389495 >>2389478 Brand new assets assets for Doom 2 game. Doom 3 assets aren't Doom 2 assets

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:45:45 No.2389496 >>2389495 Whatever man. You know exactly what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:50:34 No.2389503 >>2389470 this was before i knew that fraps was superior >>2389472 AMD Radeon 6310 card cpu is amd e-240

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:53:47 No.2389506 >>2389492 Sonds mostly like Painkiller weaponry.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 19:54:28 No.2389510 >>2388521 I like it. You're right it feels really rough, but it's cool playing through sets of levels, replaying them sometimes to level a bit more or get more money for better gear.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 20:00:06 No.2389525 http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=33245 Why hasn't this been implemented yet, seriously

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 20:17:40 No.2389554 >>2389525 The same reason no OS's toggle case of selected text when you press Shift-Capslock: the future requires only one person with vision, and one person to implement it.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 20:31:03 No.2389582 >>2389417 When the reason is literally "I don't want to" then yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 20:47:51 No.2389598 >>2389554 I bet someone has done this already actually. There's some shitty implementation for linux/unix-likes somewhere at the very least.

Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 20:58:45 No.2389615

>>2389042
i can't believe i'm seriously responding to a self-important tripfag but if you'll try to read my post instead of kneejerk reacting like a sperg i mention that the auto aim is fucking broken in regards to height. in the outside area in the first level where there are stormtroopers the auto aim is always a few pixels short of actually hitting its mark, unlike say Doom.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 20:59:43 No.2389617 >>2389460 Hexen 3 should be like GMOTA.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 21:03:19 No.2389630 >>2389617 Speaking of Hexen what mods do you guys like for that

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 21:14:09 No.2389649 >>2389630 Wrath of Cronos, there's nothing else

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 21:15:18 No.2389651 >>2389649 That's a shame, one day I should really learn how to develop for Doomlikes I love the mix of fantasy and heavy metal flavored Satanism.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 21:26:40 No.2389672 >>2389649 There's also Hexercise

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 21:30:09 No.2389680 >>2389651 These are also my favorite things.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 21:45:52 No.2389705 I never realised how awesome the midi was for BTSX e2m03. Second half of it felt like something that'd fit right at home with the MMs

CactusHege Thu, May 7, 2015 22:00:12 No.2389735

>>2389278
Honestly, I have been told this happens with green pinkes sometimes for some odd reason
They say it happens when purple archvile or orange archvile starts reviving the green pinky corpses but I havent been able to recreate it myself and the green pinky decorate doesnt seem to have anything wrong with it.
>>2389289
WHOOPS

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 22:36:16 No.2389825 >>2389735 >green pinkies >purple archviles Found the problem, you're overdosing the players.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 22:47:40 No.2389856 File: 2.87 MB, 720x360, guns.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] guns.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 23:12:15 No.2389902 File: 271 KB, 640x480, zdoom_wars___strife_army_by_panthserv-d2zl0mf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what does /doom/ think of zdoom wars? I tried it a little bit and I thought it was pretty good. what do you guys think?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 23:13:32 No.2389905 >>2389902 strife OP otherwise cool

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 23:18:07 No.2389910 >>2389902 Hexen is rad as shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 23:32:18 No.2389931 I want to play some doom with you anon, some co-op survival matches. How should I proceed?

>>	Anonymous Thu, May 7, 2015 23:49:43 No.2389960 >>2389931 Get Zandronum and Doomseeker, since it's what the majority of what we use. Jump on the /vr/ IRC and start talking to others about what to play and what server to hop on.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 01:10:16 No.2390069 Does anyone know where a guy could find a set of Timon's axe sprites with Doomguy hands holding it? Or maybe a set of handless axes?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 01:26:58 No.2390091 What are some Doom mapsets that are made with Jumping in mind? Want to jump all the fuck around without accidentally breaking shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 01:43:50 No.2390112 Someone should make a Castlevania whip for Doom. I'd like to do spooky atmospheric map, but it would probably not have any guns (maybe one), sort of like City of the Dead.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 01:56:43 No.2390124 File: 189 KB, 800x600, Screenshot_Doom_20150508_005444.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] so while tweaking a lightning script to make the lightning more consistently give good lightning this happened

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 01:57:02 No.2390126 Did Blake Stone ever get a good sourceport? Just got the Throwback Pack, and I always wanted to play these, but it's fucking awful with defauly controls. also yholl put out new DRL versions I love you

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:03:09 No.2390132 File: 223 KB, 400x324, 657564.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2390124 What did you do this time scroton? You silly bastard. It sure does look pretty though

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:08:43 No.2390137

>>2390126
>Did Blake Stone ever get a good sourceport?
Apparently the person behind that ECWolf sourceport has plans to implement Blake Stone support. I wasn't a fan of the default controls either but thankfully with Xpadder I was able to setup something that makes it quite easy and fun to use (for me at least). If you want I can upload the profile for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:10:05 No.2390140 >>2390132 messing around with sin curves as offsets to try and produce a consistently interesting looking lightning, but forgot to remove a fixediv on the z offset so it ended up having a really really high frequency

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:10:19 No.2390141 >>2390091 Doom Barracks Zone (alternative version) is pretty much designed with jumping in mind, it works flawlessly with Project MSX

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:10:25 No.2390143 >>2390137 Not an optimal solution, but I, and maybe others in the thread would appreciate it. Fine solution in the meantime until there's a real port.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:24:19 No.2390159
File: 1.11 MB, 720x360, and then John gotted his PALSMA SHTGNU.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Okay, I think mechanically this thing is done, I just need some sick ass sounds and stuff

Primary shoots out a cone of PALSMA.

Secondary shoots out hitscans, if it hits a monster, they explode, if it hits a wall, you get a scatter of PASLMA

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:24:41 No.2390161
File: 90 KB, 507x258, abTAWSj[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>2390143
http://pastebin.com/LQqZd8XG
Save it with .xpadderprofile as the extension

Here's basically how it's set up (using playstation controller buttons):
D-Pad = Cursor keys
Left Stick = Mouse movement
Right Stick = Weapons
L1 = Strafe
R1 = Run
R2 = Fire Weapon
Select = Go back to menu
Start = Map, within DOSBox's mapper for Blake Stone I set it to a key that isn't used in-game since I had a habit to check map while keeping L1 held down
X = Use/Open
Square = Turn 90 degrees left
Circle = Turn 90 degrees right
Triangle = Turn 180 degrees

Using the mouse on the left stick makes it so much easier to get through floors as you can move pretty quick even without the run key and the quick turn buttons help a lot too.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:30:22 No.2390163

>>2389503
Sorry for the late reply, I was blasting through Quake for a bit.

>single core 1.5GHz APU
Darn. This is tough, recording video's mostly a CPU business. Try recording at 360p or 480p (in bandicam settings), maybe bump it from 30fps to 25fps.

Fraps will work, as will Dxtory if configured. If still using Bandicam try setting the video codec to "YV12", which may or may not be way faster than the default MJPEG option for you.

There's a guide about this stuff here you might find useful:
http://pastebin.com/ELd68pqY

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 02:48:43 No.2390185 >>2390137 >>2390143 You know dosbox has input remapping, right? You don't really need xpadder for that. xpadder is deprecated anyway, use AntiMicro.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 03:03:49 No.2390213 >>2390185 Hm, educate me

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 03:42:47 No.2390257 >>2389630 >>2389649 >>2389672 What about Hexenhanced?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 04:05:53 No.2390303 Remember when doom was good? Me neither.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 04:10:09 No.2390306 >>2385023 John romero gave commentary over a playthrough, where he talked about pretty much everything related to making the levels. It's on youtube.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 04:13:51 No.2390314 [DELETED]

>>2386473
>>2386130
>>2386131
I was going to just go ahead and post the code, but then I started working on the script I was talking about rather than just writing up how to do the script.

First off, the extant code:

Here is the decorate code from TSP for the shock shells, it starts at line 864:

https://github.com/BlueVertigo/indigoskyline/blob/master/tsp%20pk3/actors/weapons/mel/DEC_M_WEP3a.txt#L864

This is done entirely in decorate. Feel free to use it or the sprites (minor edits by me) for anything, sounds are credited in TSP's credits file. This code has the issues I mentioned in >>2386130 >>2386131

The new code is a script that creates an arc from the player to the wherever their shot landed (on walls/floors, it intentionally goes through actors.) From the About/Credits:

>This is a new ACS version of the shock shell effect that aims to mimic the random nature of the effect through randomized (but not truly random) offsets while also increasing performance, spawning the effect instantly and removing the possibility of the effect failing. Damage is dealt when monsters are caught in the arc (are overlapped by the ripping projectiles that the arc is comprised of.)

>Tested in ZDoom and Zandronum, offline in both.

>TO-DO:
>Use the script to replicate shock shell functionality and the way it's used in demonsteele. Not a lot of work but I'm tired presently, so it will be done later.

>Free to use for anything as long as credit is given.

Full About/Credit in file or here: http://pastebin.com/uX7KdTAC

Code is explained via in-line comments in code. If you have questions feel free to ask me here or on irc.

For testing in game, the test weapon is in slot 3, the regular shotgun which takes precedence over the SSG.

Here's the file:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_YjRUOHhJMmNyRHc/view?usp=sharing

Sorry that took so long to get replied to.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 04:22:38 No.2390325 >>2390303 what

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 04:57:26 No.2390353

>>2386473
>>2386130
>>2386131
I was going to just go ahead and post the extant code and only explain what I would do, but then I started working on the script I was talking about rather than just writing up how to do the script.

First off, the extant code:

Here is the decorate code from TSP for the shock shells, it starts at line 864:

https://github.com/BlueVertigo/indigoskyline/blob/master/tsp%20pk3/actors/weapons/mel/DEC_M_WEP3a.txt#L864

This is done entirely in decorate. Feel free to use it or the sprites (minor edits by me) for anything, sounds are credited in TSP's credits file. This code has the issues I mentioned in >>2386130 >>2386131

The new code is a script that creates an arc from the player to the wherever their shot landed (on walls/floors, it intentionally goes through actors.) From the About/Credits:

>This is a new ACS version of the shock shell effect that aims to mimic the random nature of the effect through randomized (but not truly random) offsets while also increasing performance, spawning the effect instantly and removing the possibility of the effect failing. Damage is dealt when monsters are caught in the arc (are overlapped by the ripping projectiles that the arc is comprised of.)

>Tested in ZDoom. Currently not functional in Zandronum.

>TO-DO:
>Use the script to replicate shock shell functionality and the way it's used in demonsteele. Not a lot of work but I'm tired presently, so it will be done later.

>Also Zandronum fixing. Will be more.

>Free to use for anything as long as credit is given.

Full About/Credit in file or here: http://pastebin.com/uX7KdTAC

Code is explained via in-line comments in code. If you have questions feel free to ask me here or on irc.

For testing in game, the test weapon is in slot 3, the regular shotgun which takes precedence over the SSG.

Here's the file:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_eWZtUS1JZUlvMGM/view?usp=sharing

Sorry that took so long to get replied to.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 05:17:43 No.2390364

>>2390353
>>2390124
Here's a quick and dirty thing for this based off of
18<CactusHege> http://i.4cdn.org/vr/1431064603134.png what came to my mind from this was that if this was like half less wide it could so good as a beam attack\
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxbbtKR5bll_MkVXd1RYZWZGb0U/view?usp=sharing
it's compressed vertically from the screenshot
the altfire is consistent in pattern, the primary fire pattern depends on position when firing
it can also be done so that the pattern displays horizontally
more interesting for the player view if fired by a player
I am going to bed now

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 05:40:34 No.2390385 What are some map sets like Doom The Way ID Did?

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 05:41:39 No.2390389

What are some good semi-drought WADs you could recommend me?
I'm not talking about true drought WADs where you have to rely on a lot of berserker fisting and monster infighting to clear the levels, but those where you have enough ammo to kill everything, but still have to make almost every shot count in order to not risk running out. I could give Demon Eclipse as an example of what I'm talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 05:42:56 No.2390392 >>2390385 Oh, and it doesn't have to be for Ultimate Doom, Doom 2 is fine too. Doesn't have to be a strict "Like the original" games either, just something with a nice vanilla feel.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 05:55:00 No.2390413 >>2390385 No End in Sight

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:15:47 No.2390436 Who exactly is the DRD Team and what do they do? All I can seem to make out is that they make builds. And this new captcha sucks. Asking me to select sandwiches and the answer is a sub and burger.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:20:44 No.2390440 >>2390385 Wonderful Doom Needs More Detail

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:21:11 No.2390441 >>2390385 Doom 1 a shit. Only the Ultimate Doom episode is good.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:21:44 No.2390443 >>2390436 Subs and Burgers are types of sandwiches.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:22:30 No.2390445

>>2390385
The Classic Episode (class_ep)
The Singularity Complex I (class_e2)
Dawn of the Dead (dodead)
Fava Beans (01fava)
Hip Deep (cleimos 2 map20)
Base Ganymede (bgcomp)
Needs More Detail (nmd/nmd2/nmdu)

>>2390440
>Wonderful Doom
Ooh i always forget about this. Good choice

>>2390443
Heh reminds me of an old FYAD meme

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:28:09 No.2390449 >>2390441 i am sorry you feel that way. may i ask why? i am guessing you find e1-e3 too easy.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:34:26 No.2390450 >>2390441 I don't find Doom 1 the best, but DTWID was fucking genius to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:55:30 No.2390461 >>2390441 E4 has the weakest maps out of the iwads.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 06:58:12 No.2390462 I know it's not TECHNICALLY /vr/, but what are your guys' opinions on Serious Sam?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 07:09:38 No.2390464 >>2390462 its aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH out of 10

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 07:10:05 No.2390465 >>2390462 Outside of it having somewhat linear level design, its not too bad. Far better than Painkiller, at least.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 07:11:41 No.2390467 >>2390462 I love the sounds of the Schofields. So satisfying, easily my favorite revolves in any vidya

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 07:24:55 No.2390474 File: 245 KB, 1280x720, tumblr_nnz3p3KKAM1s95hkno1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Upcoming Quake release.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 07:25:41 No.2390475 >>2390474 That looks fucking amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 07:50:03 No.2390490 File: 1.07 MB, 400x394, amazed2.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2390474

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:16:20 No.2390504 >>2390474 Why aren't dorks mapping in Quake 2 instead?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:19:37 No.2390506 >>2390504 Why aren't dorks mapping in Doom 3 instead of Doom 2?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:26:06 No.2390512 >>2390506 Why aren't dorks mapping in Quake 4 instead of Doom 3?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:26:30 No.2390513 >>2390504 >>2390506 >>2390512 Why aren't you dorks mapping right now

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:27:46 No.2390515 >>2390513 because I am going to work in few minutes and when I am back I pick either Doom 2, HL2EP2 or UE4 as my mapping engine and I work in either of these.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:30:23 No.2390516 >>2390513 >Why aren't you dorks mapping right now because /gms/

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 08:59:01 No.2390550 In this here post (http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=687752#p687752)) Nash states that it should possible to import/export characters right now How would that work? I don't see anything that writes to an external file anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 09:13:42 No.2390569 >>2390513 I really want to teach myself Doom mapping. Are there any basic tips for things like enemy and item placement?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 09:18:42 No.2390575 Damn I didn't even remember how bad Doom 1 episode 3 was, who thought E3M7 was a good idea.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 10:35:02 No.2390634

>>2390569
play other maps and see what is fun to play

its that easy

for example you could have player in map03 with only a shotgun and pistol as their weapons so far, then put them right at the start of map04 with a tough fight, maybe few cacos and mancubus in not-too-spacious room. after that you send player to a bigger arena with large amount of enemies, player is railroaded into picking up rocket launcher and invincibility sphere and then they can wreck 50+ demons to cool down from previous tough fight.

really, just play some shitty games to know what you should NOT do

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 10:36:23 No.2390635 >>2390569 replay, rebalance, replay, remake, replay, never finish it

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 10:51:51 No.2390643 File: 144 KB, 400x400, s2X4Yk-z[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not-so-new art piece by 88alice >>2390569 http://doomwiki.org/wiki/John_Romero#Design_rules >>2390575 Come on bruh, E3M2 is uglier

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 10:54:15 No.2390646 >>2390634 One thing's for sure, you should be careful to not give the player too little or too much of the wrong ammo types. Nobody wants to see a massive row of shell boxes juxtaposed with a horde of cyberdemons and barons of hell.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 10:58:17 No.2390651

>>2390646
well dont you think introducing rocket launcher in map04 along some strong enemies like revenants and knights is a good idea?
of course I am not talking about feeding player rocket ammo all the time, im on about making it more of an "early game bfg"

>>	Yholl Fri, May 8, 2015 10:59:57 No.2390653 >>2390126 nevaar I have finished a new unique, and half finished two new assemblies though. I KEEP GETTING DISTRACTED BY FUN THINGS AAAAA

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 12:08:36 No.2390723 >>2390651 Whoops, I was supposed to quote >>2390569 and not anything in your post, sorry for the confusion.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 12:29:25 No.2390757 >>2390635 funny because it's true

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 12:42:49 No.2390784

>>2390185
>>2390185
>You know dosbox has input remapping, right? You don't really need xpadder for that.
Yeah I know about it, tried it, but couldn't remap the mouse to my left stick so resorted to xpadder.

>xpadder is deprecated anyway, use AntiMicro.
>As of May 04, 2015, development of antimicro has ceased for the foreseeable future.
I'll still look into it though.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 14:03:28 No.2390937 Okay guys, what's the best WAD to play wit Contra Doom for that arcade experience?!?!

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 14:37:53 No.2391016 you seen this? http://www.indiedb.com/games/doom2remake someone tries to remake D2 in UE4 badly

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 14:42:24 No.2391026 >>2388739 incoming shameless self-plug... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIyvD6_YMqc

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 14:46:51 No.2391037 File: 484 KB, 200x200, train-your-inner-face.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2391026 That was intense.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 15:04:48 No.2391081 >>2391026 That's pretty rad.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 15:17:53 No.2391114 >>2391026 That's some pretty good comeback right here.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 15:19:02 No.2391116 >>2391026 >A perfect comeback in Super Street Doom 2. This spider has moves. >Those overhead bars are real, check health_bar in prboom's cfg file. The wad is secret (it's ngmvmt2). new gothic movement 2, indeed?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 15:23:27 No.2391126 >>2391116 >new gothic movement 2 My body is ready.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 15:41:09 No.2391152 >>2390550 I still would like to know the answer

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 16:33:30 No.2391264 >>2391152 the post you linked to doesn't seem to say anything like what you claim it states?

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 16:54:46 No.2391326

>>2391264
I dunno what the fuck happened so I copied wrong link, because I'm sure I've checked.
Here's the right one.

http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=679769#p679769

In "[ACS] Access to "Set" and "ArchiveCVar" commands" thread on ZDoom forums Nash states that
>the "set" functionality is what's needed if a mod is to do things like high score tables or character data export...
And then in another thread
http://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=687980#p687980

He says that
>character import/export should be possible now
But sadly I don't see how it works and how it can write and save stuff outside of the current Doom match. Maybe that's because I'm a bad programmer (I really am) and can't see implications and possibilities behind the commands, so Id be very glad if someone could explain that to me.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 17:01:15 No.2391346 This is the worst trip evar! https://youtu.be/H7N01ItA9mE

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 17:47:38 No.2391462 >>2391326 cvars are saved in the config (a permanent file outside of the game) so they can be recalled later by another game, this is possible currently in zandronum because it has setcvar and archivecvar but not in zdoom.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 17:55:25 No.2391476 >>2391462 ZDoom has SetCvar.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 17:57:51 No.2391482 >>2391476 well then it is possible now and I'm behind the times because they didn't always have that anyway the important bit is that cvars are saved in the .ini file outside of the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 18:02:56 No.2391491 >>2390465 >Far better than Painkiller, at least how about i slap your shit

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 18:07:14 No.2391503 >>2391026 I enjoyed this a lot.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 18:10:21 No.2391512 >>2391491 >>2390465 Better than Painkiller-follow-ups you mean.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:12:49 No.2391712 >>2390462 Second encounter is amazing. SS2 and 3 blow for different reasons, and first encounter (while good) is just surpassed in every way by TSE.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:19:05 No.2391747 >>2391712 TSE co-op is probably some of the most fun I've EVER had playing video games.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:19:16 No.2391748 >>2391712 I think SS2 is ok but misunderstood by most. SS3 is pretty damn good, except for the indoor missions.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:20:43 No.2391756 >>2391748 Misunderstood? What do you mean?

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:22:47 No.2391772 >>2391756 I think a lot of people were averse to the overly goofy presentation and cutscenes of 2. Personally I enjoyed them. The guns and combat are probably the weakest in the series but I still had enough fun with the game to finish it.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:41:13 No.2391858

>>2391772
The level design, gameplay, art style and *everything* except the sleek look and performance of the engine was much worse than TFE and TSE.
>>2391748
I really really wanted to like SS3, but I just didn't have much fun. Many of the guns are only found in secrets while the rest aren't that much fun, and every set piece is only like "kill x amount of Y enemies with Z gun (the only one or two ammo is supplied for at that moment).

The first large, varied fight in a huge arena was many hours into the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:43:12 No.2391867 >>2391747 And yes, agreed with that. TSE co-op is absolutely hilarious, and probably one of the best designed co-op modes ever.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 19:55:13 No.2391928

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kegibottowtxdwu/SUAB-ZDV0.2c.pk3?dl=0

Yo, anyone who's still into Suab, here's the newest version, some of the fixes include.

Fixing the deagle max ammo so you can no longer have 300+ Deagle shots in reserve.

Fixing the Stinger so it no longer turns into the Grenade gun when you try to throw grenades when you have no Grenade ammo

Rocco no longer has an episode when hit with Lolth blind-bolts

And some other stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 20:30:28 No.2392090 >>2391928 Love Shut Up And Bleed, keep working on it!

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:14:38 No.2392242
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>>2391928
You know what would be really nice? A rifle of some sort that you can fight with.
Like not necessarily as powerful as the sniper rifle, and it doesn't have to be automatic or an assaultrifle, but just something with a medium-ish punch to it and it's accurate at a distance, while holding a respectable amount of shots and capable of being fast in a pinch of you click fast enough, and without a scope so that you could use it fast in a pinch.

Something like an SKS, Mini-14 (with a 10 or 20 round mag), or Winchester 94 Lever-Action rifle, some rifle you could typically find in North America and it has decent power WITHOUT being so useful as so you could forego all the other weapons.

Maybe I'm just sperging it out but I think a rifle you could use in an emergency to drop multiple mooks (but obviously have to shoot a lot to fight a boss monster of some sort) would fit. Like, it's a rifle you could see someone hunt with, but it has enough power and speed that you could actually fight with it to some reason of efficiency.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:26:35 No.2392268 >>2390449 Yup. It's boring. Doom II is better (but still far too easy). The Doom II is worse meme is so stupid. And Plutonia is the true GOAT of the original wads.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:30:45 No.2392278

>>2392242
Uh I think there's some M1 grand sorta sprites floating around somewhere. I'd have to find a reload animation that works and get someone to re-hand it, maybe. But this all requires effort and talent I do not have at the moment (or at least, not on my own.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:32:24 No.2392281 >>2392268 >The Doom II is worse meme is so stupid. >meme Heh.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:35:23 No.2392285 File: 38 KB, 265x265, like seriously.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2392268 >The Doom II is worse meme is so stupid.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:35:59 No.2392287

>>2392268
I actually replayed all of Doom 1 for the first time in a LONG while yesterday and today, and I've never been more grateful to the super shotgun for it's existance.

Like I'd have 100/100 shells all the time if they gave me a berserker pack, because fuck it's so slow to kill pinkies and cacodemons with the regular shotgun.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:37:43 No.2392292 File: 589 KB, 1600x900, Where you going guys.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Someone on IRC said monsters wandering might be cool, so why not? The Stone imps may or may not be the start of Rarer replacement enemies, I dunno yet.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:38:59 No.2392294
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>>2392278
there's the pic related sprite set that's at
>http://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/component/docman/?task=doc_download&gid=407&Itemid=

As for a reload anim., why not just go with something similar to what hideous destructor does (go to the side and down for a second, make some sounds, then return). You can literally do that anim with the ready state sprite.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:39:44 No.2392296 >>2392294 Because it'd clash with the other weapons (Which have proper reload sprites).

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:41:15 No.2392302 >>2392292 >Rarer enemy types Will they always be much stronger or will it be sidegrades?

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:43:32 No.2392305

>>2392302
I want them to be similar to the enemies they replace, but they probably will be a wee bit stronger most of the time. The ones seen will replace the Roach and will do more melee damage and are sorta immune to pain (but in trade it's half as fast.)

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:45:31 No.2392306 >>2392305 That sounds pretty fair.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:47:00 No.2392307 >>2392296 >(Which have proper reload sprites) Kek. The crossbow doesn't, nor does the flamer, beretta, and several others. I'll admit that it clashes, though, by not being an IRL weapon.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:51:43 No.2392318 >>2392307 "Proper" reloads being "Reloads with animations", that is.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 21:55:40 No.2392323
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>>2392242
Not the author but I gotta say I can't really see what role it'd fill

Your first and second paragraphs described the new 10-shot crossbow to a tee, only that it's not hitscan. The R700 itself also has about as much power as a shotgun hit in a pinch, and has a scope.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:03:42 No.2392337

>>2392323
everytime I play SUAB, I always just default to

"why the FUCK is there a calico in this"?

I mean, I feel like there might as well be a goddamn gyrojet and a koborov in there too. Sometimes, it's like SUAB is just sort of "/k/ makes a rare weapon's thread: the game", which is kinda interesting.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:05:25 No.2392339

>>2392337
One thing about the Calico that's interesting to me is

>Gun is horrendously weak
>Still satisfying to use somehow
I don't really get it.
It shoots a whole lot of diddly and doesn't hurt much, but I dig it.
And I don't normally dig weapons like that.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:13:51 No.2392352
File: 285 KB, 735x980, Calico M951 mag.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>2392337
Looks exotic, fills a neat role (light damage, common ammo, high capacity and fire rate) and because it was there when the original EDGE mod was made by chronoteeth. I really doubt chronoteeth browses /k/ from looking at his original SUAB for EDGE.

>>2392339
Probably because of the blood effect, impact sound and how it stunlocks the fuck out of things until they die. It can lock things up to a cacodemon in place until it dies and can mow down a bunch of humanoids without reloading.

You'd want a heavier weapon for big monsters like hellknights anyway, like a shotgun.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:13:56 No.2392354 >>2392337 Because the Calico looks cool. If it's good enough for Spaceballs, it's good enough for Doom.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:14:29 No.2392357

>>2392339
eh, even though it doesn't do a high damage per round amount, it has a huge cyclical rate, huge mag, and still stunlocks like any other "slot 4" type weapon.

What makes it enjoyable for me is SUAB's bulletpuff lights. The calico looks like a goddamn psychedelic fireworks display.

My big thing, though is simply: why a goddamn calico? Since there's so much obvious resident evil in this mod, is the calico featured in one of the RE games? It's just such a rare and out-there kinda gun that I don't often expect to see it in games.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:24:57 No.2392378 >>2392357 Looks like a Calico M110 was in Code Veronica.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 22:53:12 No.2392429 >>2392242 I REALLY like the idea of reload speed differing if you have ammo left. A "top off" reload taking a while where a full reload being fast would provide a nice incentive to empty out before reloading.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 23:13:01 No.2392476

>>2392337
The magazines of the Calico series can be testy, but they shoot regular bullets (and the 9mm ones are in roller-delayed blowback, like an MP5, so they'd be pretty easy to control and accurate).

A Gyrojet is just a huge can of worms because the cartridges themselves are unreliable pieces of shit and you'd be lucky if someone closing the door hastily doesn't make your rocket hit six feet off your target across the livingroom because of how sensitive to wind they are (or how they literally don't hurt at point blank).
Also they are flimsy, chintsy and cumbersome fucksticks to handle. And expensive even when they where still being made.

Assuming your Calico magazine is in good condition, and it's wound up enough (but not too much), it will actually work and it will shoot bullets that hurt and aren't thrown off target by someone breaking wind in front of it.

>>2392357
>>2392378
There was a Calico .22 pistol in Code Veronica, or rather, there was a pair of them and you dual-wielded them, they were a hidden bonus item early in the game. Not particularly powerful but they held a lot of rounds and you could target individual enemies with each of them. You couldn't find any reloads for them though so once they were empty they were useless.

Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 23:18:50 No.2392493
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>>2392429
I suppose that can be an incentive to shoot off rounds, and I do like the top-off idea.

Also, near all SKS rifles come with some sort of built in bayonet, which I think could be really cool. The player is a punk dipshit so he isn't the greatest in handling a rifle bayonet, but he could get in quite a decent straight jab even if he isn't fast with it.

It wouldn't be hard to implement gameplay wise either, when you press the kick button while holding the SKS, you'll just stab forward with your gun, doing more damage than the kick by far (partially because it's a stabbing weapon, partially because you put in some of your own bodyweight plus the weight of the rifle into it), but being slower to recover with.

Reasonable, you'd then also twist the rifle a little in one angle after it has impacted, as to make sure that the wound becomes gaping and hard to treat, to guarantee that the enemy starts to bleed profusely.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 23:20:03 No.2392501 >>2392357 It also has it's own ammo-pool, so if it's all you're left with, hell, it's not awful.

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 23:40:26 No.2392539 File: 1.11 MB, 1600x900, Look at this asshole.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Heh

>>	Anonymous Fri, May 8, 2015 23:42:08 No.2392542 >>2392539 I guess you could say he's a real funky phantasm.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 00:01:01 No.2392575 Playing some ultra-violence endless survival @ doom.vixterra.com:10669

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 00:10:46 No.2392592 >>>/wsg/630538 In case you've wanted to hear the sounds for these guns so far.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 00:32:45 No.2392642 File: 885 KB, 250x189, image.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2392292 >wandering That is cool.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 01:07:45 No.2392693 Wolfenstein 3D download link is down

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 01:11:53 No.2392696 >>2392693 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/48332341/Wolf3d.zip game data only, acquire sourceport separately

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 01:15:48 No.2392698 >>2392696 Thank you!

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 01:25:35 No.2392709

>>2392429
Well, you can top off a mag with a stripperclip anyway, you just can't fit more than 10 rounds in the magazine so it'd leave rounds on the clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUJgDUm3g_Q
Dat RRRRRRHKT noise tho

Wish we had a friendly artist to help us here.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 01:42:50 No.2392745

>>2392476
>A Gyrojet is just a huge can of worms [...]

you don't have to tell me about those things. I'm a pretty big firearms enthusiast IRL, so I know about them and their problems.

What I was on about is that the Calico is just a weird and not too often seen weapon. There's only 14 available on armslist in the entire US in .22, and 17 in 9mm, so it's a pretty odd little gun to find, and I've never really seen them in games either...

I probably react weird to it just because I've never played Code Veronica. Had I never played RE2 , I'd probably be weirded out by the VP70m, the repeating crossbow, and the weird way the grenade launcher works too.

>>2392709
>Well, you can top off a mag with a stripperclip anyway

eh, all the times I've done it like that (say, 4 in mag, and then try to top off with a clip), it always ends up awkward.

You pull the clip out with those extra rounds on it, and it always seems to let rounds fall off and into the action, which would cause a jam in an adrenaline fueled, rocco-hand-shake, kinda combat scenario.

>Wish we had a friendly artist to help us here.

If you guys can find an artist who's willing to touch them up, I have an SKS that I can take centered first person photos of for you to use.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 01:51:58 No.2392764 >>2392745 I'd totally be up for spriting a photo of an SKS. That would be awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:01:24 No.2392786 >>2392764 cool. gimme an hour or so to reconfigure it into stock military configuration, and I'll start posting raw imagery then.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:16:37 No.2392817 How much damage should an SKS do in Doom terms, I think there was one in KDiZD as a BFG replacement and it was pretty ridiculously strong for a hitscan.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:18:43 No.2392819 >>2392817 3-4 bullets while having low ammo capacity.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:19:13 No.2392820 >>2392817 this is for SUAB, yeah? take the damage of the beretta per shot, add it to the .308 and divide by two. Presto -- a literal intermediate cartridge.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:38:44 No.2392865 File: 2.24 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150509_023344.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2392764 here's one. Bolt closed - centered. feel free to request shots of whatever is needed.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:39:45 No.2392868 File: 2.35 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150509_023402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2392865 #2 is bolt open - centered.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:41:33 No.2392873 File: 2.40 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150509_023337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2392868 another closed bolt. this one shows the stock slightly unlike pic 1, but like pic 2.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:45:44 No.2392880 >>2392865 >>2392868 >>2392873 are you hunting for rats under your fridge?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:49:30 No.2392886 >>2392880 fridgeroom is the most well lit at this hour, and I put it on the floor so you could get images that don't have anon-hands in them.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 02:58:29 No.2392915 >>2391491 >>2391512 Painkiller is atrociously boring. And it has easily the worst Bosses in any shooter. I do give it props for having interesting weapons, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 03:00:30 No.2392918 >>2392915 Painkiller has a beautiful philosophy when it comes to weapons: Less weapons, but they all have more features and abilities, that sorta streamlining is awesome and the painkiller is an amazing weapon

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 03:14:56 No.2392942 >>2391116 >>2391126 >newgothic movement 2 I'm wondering, is this a new megawad entirely? Or is it filling in the empty slots from 1? Either way, this sounds good.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 03:15:15 No.2392946 >>2392868 >>2392873 These two will probably sprite very well. I'll get on it in a minute, suddenly I am extremely busy.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 03:16:08 No.2392947 >>2391026 For a second, I was like "what mod is that?" Then I remembered PrBoom+ has an option for healthbars.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 03:30:07 No.2392964 >>2392946 cool, I probably won't be taking anymore pics for 8+ hours anyway. Just downed a shit ton of melatonin drink, so I'm out soon.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 05:15:45 No.2393030

So I'm playing SUAB and I noticed something
>Can interrupt the reload for the shotgun
>Can't interrupt the reload at all for the bolt rifle
Is this intentional?
I'm not saying it should automatically close the bolt when pushing fire but it is strange that you have to load all bullets used no matter what.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:12:40 No.2393096
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SKS guy back from sleep.

It looks like the other guy didn't get around to making any sprites yet, so out of boredom, I made some myself. Pic related.

Also, here's a wad where I replace the pistol firing sequence with it for proof of concept. I'd post a webm but I can't into screen capture software.

I've tried SKS sprites before and all of those sucked, but this one looks better than most of the abortions I've put out before.

>http://www.mediafire.com/download/fk9hnvqkcxmbb7b/sks_test.wad

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:16:13 No.2393097 File: 137 KB, 640x480, Screenshot_Doom_20150509_111354_03.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393096 more pics PISFA0 replacement in test wad. I have handless versions of these if needed btw.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:17:13 No.2393098 File: 143 KB, 640x480, Screenshot_Doom_20150509_111354_01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393097 and closed bolt: PISGA0 in the test wad.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:18:12 No.2393101 File: 30 KB, 290x299, SKS.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393096 I got around to it, 4chan has been fuck for the last hour so I couldn't post.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:18:24 No.2393102
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Not strictly a /vr/ but still
Somebody please explain me the Carmack's (and IDs) fascination with megatextures?
I understand the concept that they are the next step in the evolution of texturing, but it's pretty much clear that that sstep has turned out to be a flop - they are unoptimised, designers don't know how to use them to full extent so there's still tiling, and it produces results that look like something out of Doom 3 or Fallout 3 (picrelated)

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:20:05 No.2393106 >>2393101 oh shit son, those are so much better than mine. Guess I should have waited for the artist....

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:26:50 No.2393114

>>2393102
Carmack wanted to push engines to the limit and create new technology.

He didn't look at games from a gaming perspective, only from a technological one.
He would and has sacrificed gameplay for engine tricks and trying to push the envelop on tech.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:47:57 No.2393134

>>2393102
It allows for infinite variation. Compare Rage's landscape to Skyrim and you'll see where megatextures shine.
However it does seem that the tech is still in it's early stages, but it should definitely be the way landscaping in games should go.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 11:50:32 No.2393138 >>2393134 Too bad Rage's environments consist of nothing but fucking deserts and junkyards. I'd sooner look at Skyrim's forests, snowy mountains, and shit

>>	CactusHege Sat, May 9, 2015 11:56:18 No.2393150 File: 378 KB, 1280x960, 1431186978729.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How much AoE can the black cybie variant have? Answer: a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:10:07 No.2393164 Aleph One What's so bad about it? I keep hearing that it is bad, but why?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:16:15 No.2393173 >>2393101 Figured I'd post a mod with it, and the PSD. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263088376/sks.pk3 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263088376/SKS.psd

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:22:34 No.2393175
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>>2393164
Basically, it is the equivalent of "chocolate marathon"...and the design team intentionally forgoes making almost any improvements to the engine.

For example, the netcode has no provisions for servers.

There's other issues, but they're minute.

Playing on aleph one is like playing chocolate doom with staples up your ass. It's fun and all, but you can feel there's just something wong.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:25:13 No.2393179 >>2393173 ehhh....

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:29:23 No.2393184 File: 1.26 MB, 1360x768, krak shooting.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:31:09 No.2393185 >>2393184 wtf am I looking at looks like refurbished turdal boom

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:31:55 No.2393186 >>2393184 what the actual fuck am I looking at? What's the gameplay mod and what's the mapset?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:34:05 No.2393190 >>2393179 Eeeehhh? That's not very good criticism, Anon. Also of note is that I made this in 5 minutes just to showcase the sprites.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:40:57 No.2393197

>>2393190
oh right, sorry!

The issue isn't with your mod (I plugged in your sprites in my test wad too before you posted yours just to see how it animates).

The sprites themselves look a bit off to me. Primarily with where and how big your doom hands are. It literally looks like doomguy had donkey kong hands and is using the magazine (or even the trigger group) as a foreward grip.

tl;dr I'm weirded out by hand position and scale.

I'd like to see how you'd animate those sprites if given time, too, because in your test wad it looks kinda weird...like the action is in slow motion or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:41:14 No.2393198 File: 279 KB, 1920x1080, JpaDTFWlJQM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is nobody playing Grezzo 2?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:42:10 No.2393201 >>2393198 I dont speak spaghetti

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:44:35 No.2393202 >>2393197 scratch what I said about animation: it looks good in sv_fastweapons 1 So yeah, literally hand size and position are my issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:45:00 No.2393203 >>2393201 then get the English patch nerd

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:45:35 No.2393204 >>2393198 I played it once. It was just weird and shitty. Wasn't it some kind of 2edgy4me politically incorrect mod?

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:46:36 No.2393206
File: 2.05 MB, 1360x768, as u can see it's totally not finished despite what the creator says.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>2393185
>>2393186

gameplay mod is operation inhuman : a cod rip for pootal doom

the map is xmanga3 : features primitive anime gals & it's not safe for christian white eyes

>>2393201
it has a translation

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 12:47:23 No.2393208 >>2393198 It's dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:03:44 No.2393234 File: 18 KB, 320x240, SKS_handtest.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393202 >>2393197 Alright then, how does this look?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:06:08 No.2393238 >>2393234 That looks good.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:12:37 No.2393243 >>2393138 Honestly, I thought Rage had beautiful wastelands.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:13:00 No.2393245 File: 103 KB, 320x200, JoJo shotgun.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393150 Did you take inspiration from 2hu? Because DAMN, son.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:14:43 No.2393247 File: 3.29 MB, 3264x2448, handreference.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393234 it's actually pretty dead on. Here's a reference with me holding it by the little forward grip divot.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:14:58 No.2393248 Is there a doom mod that tries to keep the original doom feel, while still adding small stuff like single-barrel-fire for the Super Shotgun, Chainsaw swinging, and stuff along those lines?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:16:34 No.2393251 >>2393248 beautiful doom is literally that.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:22:29 No.2393258
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>>2393234
Looks pretty good.
Though the stock looks a little bit too... glossy?
Not sure how to describe it. Maybe try and smooth it out a little with photoshop?
The metal looks top-notch though.

I figure the stock would be outside of your view ingame tough, only briefly being visible during reload or something, or maybe if the bayonet is used (if that would be implemented).

I guess the stock could also be redrawn to be a OD green plastic, like an aftermarket stock, to make it a little lighter.

Could the guy who took the first photo take an image of the gun at an angle like one of these?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:22:46 No.2393259 >>2393251 I would use Beautiful Doom a hell of a lot more if it didn't force you to use its retarded autoaim settings.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:25:02 No.2393261
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>>2393234
I was thinking, how easy would it be to make a stripper clip reload and have it look good?

An option is to depict it as one of the variants which use AK-47 magazines, it would be easier to depict (and short low-capacity mags exist for the AK), if the clip reload would end up looking to clumsy or strange.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:26:57 No.2393262 File: 17 KB, 320x240, SKS_green.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393258 Doesn't need a redraw, I already have the wood as a gradient map! Also, does this look better for making it look less glossy?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:27:40 No.2393263 >>2393259 can you not just remove that

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:30:04 No.2393268 File: 521 KB, 2560x1440, 2015-05-09_00001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393263 This is what happens if I have sv_smartaim set to anything but 3.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:30:49 No.2393269 >>2393263 no, it bitches with a giant nag message if you dont

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:32:08 No.2393271 >>2393262 I was thinking a more olive like color, but yeah, the texture looks good.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:32:40 No.2393273 >>2393268 >>2393259 This is honestly the only thing keeping me from using Beautiful Doom constantly.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:32:58 No.2393275 >>2393268 >>2393269 yes i know that. but it's only a zdoom mod, right? you can't just go into whatever ACS file puts that message on screen and comment it out?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:34:34 No.2393278 File: 18 KB, 320x240, SKS_pink.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393262 For good mesaure.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:35:43 No.2393281 >>2393278 This is obviously the superior gun. Next up, make it rainbow.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:38:44 No.2393287 File: 18 KB, 320x240, SKS_rainbows.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393281 I would never.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:40:17 No.2393292
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>>2393261
I could just take source pics and they could be re-touched ala rotoscopy.

I've got a whole sequence of these that goes from full clip->half clip->empty clip->remove clip-> toss clip.

I could take from a different angle if needed too...

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:41:28 No.2393294 File: 2.42 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20150509_133359.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393292 2

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:42:31 No.2393295 >>2393269 >>2393268 >>2393259 Why would they do this?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:42:36 No.2393297 File: 2.40 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20150509_133402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393294 3

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:43:35 No.2393301 >>2393292 That angle is great, actually. This probably will sound very odd, but your kitchen has immaculate lighting for sprites.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:43:46 No.2393302 File: 2.39 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20150509_133405.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393295 I think it has to do with how the projectiles in the mod work. also >>2393297 4

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:44:54 No.2393305 File: 2.49 MB, 2448x3264, IMG_20150509_133407.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393302 5 >>2393301 direct overhead cool temp flourescent. I wish it were immaculate in other ways, but meh...it's the weekend.

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:47:36 No.2393307

Help me decide a source port /vr/. I want something as vanilla as possible, whilst removing limits, and giving custom resolution display.

zDoom is a reliable sourceport that just about everything works on, but the interface (i.e pick-up messages, menus etc) doesn't scale properly with your resolution and aspect ratio, and it has retarded bullet decals, transparent projectiles etc.

prBoom+ is close, but its renderer does really fucking screwy shit, like flats warping when the edge of a linedef is over he centre of your viewpoint, wierd ass clipping glitches on corners everywhere, shit's basically fucked.

GL ports just look nasty all round. I just want something that accurately looks and feels like vanilla Doom, but a cleaner and fixed version instead of the "warts and all" approach of Chocolate Doom.

What do?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:48:31 No.2393308 >>2393307 Have you tried Crispy Doom? It sounds like exactly what you want.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:48:38 No.2393310 >>2393268 What do the Object and Monster wads have for Beautiful Doom? I only loaded the Weapons wad and i'm not getting this.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:49:34 No.2393312 >>2393307 crispy-doom. It's basically chocolate-doom, but removes some limits, adds hires, and allows optional mouselook, crosshair, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:51:25 No.2393315 >>2393310 objects adds re-lit, interactive stuff, like light poles and torches. monsters adds re-sprited, reanimated monsters that do BDoom stuff (i.e. shotgunguy shoots Bdoom hitscans instead of vanilla; doomimp shoots prettier fireballs, etc.)

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:55:12 No.2393317

>>2393308
>>2393312

Nah, it uses code from prBoom+ which means it has the same retarded rendering issues, only zDoom seems to be able to avoid them.

It's probably easier to ask if there's a way of turning off decals, transparecy and fixing the menu/messages scale in zDoom than finding an entirely different port.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 13:57:44 No.2393319 >>2393317 >decals There's a cvar for this...dunno it, consult wiki. >transparency r_drawtrans false iirc anyway... >menu/message scale check under hud options.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:01:41 No.2393323 File: 145 KB, 400x700, rainbow.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393262 >>2393278 >>2393281 >>2393287

Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:02:25 No.2393325

So, a while ago Kaiser made a post on how he made OpenGL renderer draw the sprites properly, like in software.
https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/2014/12/24/sprite-clipping-in-strife-veteran-edition-explained/

How do you think, will this ever be incorporated in GZ/Zandro?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:03:50 No.2393327 >>2393317 >>2393319 cl_maxdecals=0 i think

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:06:20 No.2393334 >>2393323 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-s9LdQPXF4 Is it bad that this was the first thing I thought of when I saw that?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:06:26 No.2393335 File: 149 KB, 1363x766, Clipboard-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Worst Port Ever

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:08:37 No.2393339 >>2393335 Mein Leben

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:14:24 No.2393342 >>2393335 >>2393339 Also. Due to rendering lag of megatexture, doors and some nearest walls don't appear that fast as you turn, so when you turn fast or use 180 turn ability, you can get a glimpse of an entire level

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:16:40 No.2393346 File: 69 KB, 250x369, The_Simpsons-Jeff_Albertson.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393335

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:22:30 No.2393353 >>2393323 kek watching it color cycle makes me think I'm on something.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:22:40 No.2393354 >>2393346 wat

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:23:42 No.2393359 >>2393319 >>2393327 Cool, thanks. Can I put them in an autoexec.cfg, or could I just add it to the user.cfg? Or will I need to use th console every time?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:25:18 No.2393363 >>2393305 Bruh, you've got some nice lighting. What other guns do you have?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:27:25 No.2393371 File: 124 KB, 800x600, green_sks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393262 I was thinking a shade like this, olive drab green.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:27:30 No.2393372 >>2393363 I've got a hipoint 40 handgun and a sporterised mosin nagant.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:28:29 No.2393373 >>2393372 git the HiPoint, we might end up making a ghetto mod one of these days

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:29:33 No.2393379 >>2393371 but why? most SKS owners would recognise the red-brown wood over that...

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:31:13 No.2393383 >>2393373 remake dorner's last stand? it'd go good with the sound track to that one. here...lemme go get the hi point...

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:34:34 No.2393387 File: 3.30 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150509_143158.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393373 this mah glawk foty. this mah prollem solver right here.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:35:43 No.2393389 File: 3.28 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150509_143215.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393387 2

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 14:36:59 No.2393392 File: 3.26 MB, 3264x2448, IMG_20150509_143216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>2393389 3

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:02:24 No.2393429 man Freedoom is just all over the place with its monster sprites the imp looks like such shit and the zombiemen and shotgunners are so messy, yet the demon replacement is so much better how is it so janky?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:02:51 No.2393430 >>2393429 Having different artists with different ideas of what looks good will do that.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:11:15 No.2393445 >>2393392 >>2393389 >>2393387 >alt fire shoots off the magic purple paralyzing bollet

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:26:20 No.2393462 >>2393387 the more I look at this pic, the more I wonder if I left my stove on...

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:32:44 No.2393476 >>2393462 Well, did you?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:37:49 No.2393487 >>2393476 I don't remember using it today, so I assume its off. I left my house so I can't confirm.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 15:45:11 No.2393504 >>2393379 I guess, I just figured it would be easier to handle with a plastic stock (maybe with rubberized surface finish), and the OD green seems like it would make it look a bit more... mean, or serious.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 16:08:05 No.2393547 >>2385262 would it work well with Hexen?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 16:17:40 No.2393580 >>2393547 no. not at all. mark made a brutal hexen, but it sucks

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 16:20:39 No.2393586 Is there any hope for running colourfulhell with zandronum, or do we simply have to wait until zandronum's underlying zdoom/gzdoom, is new enough? Maybe someone's made a fancy modified version?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 16:21:31 No.2393589 Why does the Quake rocket launcher look like a rocket. A singular, ammunition, rocket?

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 16:23:13 No.2393592 >>2393589 I always thought it looked like a penis.

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 16:43:00 No.2393624 >>2387632 each time you close your eyes you see doom levels

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 18:29:23 No.2393810 NEW THREAD >>2393805 >>2393805 >>2393805

>>	Anonymous Sat, May 9, 2015 23:05:56 No.2394301 >>2393307 Eternity

Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2015 00:27:23 No.2394428
File: 1.78 MB, 1016x1334, f186f0f44212f1c5f3b54732d70d9ad43b53c2eb.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Hey guys, /5n@fg/ here,

Wanted to secretly slip together a proof of concept for a doom-engine rendition of Ghostquest.

This is see-appeal post, so toodles.

To keep it relevant to doom topic, have a boxart parody.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2015 01:42:03 No.2394575 >>2393429 Last I heard they were retuning the sprites so they look more consistent and doom-like.

>>	Anonymous Sun, May 10, 2015 20:14:56 No.2396014 So... does anyone else switch off infighting for OBLIGE? It always seems to make a clusterfuck of the enemies, making them take care of half themselves before I can. Also, any good settings to share?

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